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So we have agreed on the following:
- Citizenship is the tool of discrimination, invented in ancient Greece and Rome, when society was divided into citizens and slaves (helots). Today citizenship is used by self entitled xenophobes to oppress non-citizens. Citizens must feel shame for being overprivileged bullies. Nothing makes citizen any better than illegal immigrant. Generally citizens make immature, pampered and peevish employees, who tend to demand too much from the employer. While say home owners purchased their homes, citizens on the other hand are just entitled, as they paid nothing for their citizenship. We live in 21st century, where there is no place for discrimination by religion, citizenship or nation. Now is the time to abolish citizenship and undeserved privileges associated with it.
- Citizen's argument goes like that: My parents made this country and left it for me, therefore America is my property now. My dad has participated in building this railroad for Rockefeller, so it is owned by me, not the Rockefeller, therefore Rockefeller has no right employing Mexican workers at this railroad. Citizen then uses insulting generalization fallacies, implying that all Mexicans are criminals who smuggle drugs, not just small gang minority.
- There is nothing wrong with illegal immigration. There is nothing illegal or criminal in being an immigrant. No Person is "Illegal". Stop Xenophobia. Lazy fat citizens should not be entitled to employment protection and high wages just by their birthright. By opening borders and allowing free immigration, we are reducing wages down to average world level and make everything cheaper. Illegal immigrants are invited by businesses, who are ready to provide them with work, food and housing. Efficient low-wage workers will freely move to the place that needs them. If a citizen is unready to work for lower wage, then he is just non-competitive burden to economy.
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- Illegal immigrants are human beings and have human rights too, including the right to compete for the jobs on a fair playground. American immigration laws are simply obsolete and must be abolished.
- Illegal immigrants can pay taxes too, if government gives them work permit. So, to reap the benefits, just give work permit and free entry to all people in the world, especially people from the poorest countries with ongoing local conflicts. Xenophobes fighting against illegal immigration and free market are also happen to be Nazis and racists. The opponents of immigration are the same chauvinists who enslave women and insist that woman's place is at the kitchen, not competing with men at the workplace. So don't be a Nazi - support illegal immigrants.
- Regarding immigration laws: Illegal immigration is not a crime, because there is no victim. And when the law oppresses people, there is nothing wrong in breaking it, because such law must be illegal. American immigration laws are racist, xenophobic and against human rights, so they deserve no respect. Period.
- Country borders should be made illegal. In our age there is no place for borders; humanity deserves free movement of workforce and goods. To achieve real world balance, peace, and progress we do need to have a borderless world. Immigration laws can be abolished and borders could be opened. Even more, country borders should be made illegal. Same way citizenship must be abolished, so everyone gets equal rights, because all human beings deserve equal rights. Only xenophobic Hitler-worshipers want to limit immigrants in rights. There is only one race, the human race, so American immigration laws must be abolished, like slavery, because they are not suitable for 21st century. Same way, American citizens should not feel themselves entitled to undeserved privileges.
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- America is not your private property. You haven't paid for it, mr. lazy fat white citizen. You may consider America your country, just like you may consider some person being your inspiration, but America is not your property. The country is not "your place", which is limited to just your private property, which you pay taxes for. American is not your inheritance, because inheritance is something you own, but you don't own America. America is no more your property, than your wife, your workplace manager or your president. America deserves the right to be open to everyone. America is the country of immigrants. Repeat: American is not your property, America deserves freedom from the xenophobic Nazis likes of you. Freedom for America!
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>>131992135
What the fuck

Are you even ukranian? Or just a nigerian studying there?

Jesus what a disgrace
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>>131993247
I'm a political refugee, hiding in Ukraine from Putin's regime. I was persecuted for my Internet posts by FSB. So formally I'm a citizen of Russia.
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>>131992394
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/05/22/europe-birthplace-mankind-not-africa-scientists-find/
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>>131993408
>telegraph.co.uk
Nice peer-reviewed journal you have there. Can't believe Brits once were the most smartest and progressive Empire on earth. Then again, Titanic sunk.
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>>131992135
Yeah, let masses of uneducated monkeys go to all the already developed first world countries so they can't completly destroy it whithin a few years. because that's what would happen if there were no border, that's why borders are a thing
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>>131993408
experts were more skeptical about the findings.

Retired anthropologist and author Dr Peter Andrews, formerly at the Natural History Museum in London, said: "It is possible that the human lineage originated in Europe, but very substantial fossil evidence places the origin in Africa, including several partial skeletons and skulls.

"I would be hesitant about using a single character from an isolated fossil to set against the evidence from Africa."
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>>131994481
How destroying? By making economy more efficient and cultures more diverse?
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>>131993640
>Brits
>smart
bydlo pls
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>>131994775
How masses of literal analphabets will make a good? I don't give a shit about cultural diversity crappy arguments, i give a shit about the fact that you can't bring animals that can't even make roads to the civilization. That won't work, and won't happen, only in fairy tales
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>>131992135
Tripfagging, ukrainian bootleg porn starring, shemale vagina-dick having, bloody vaginal belcher.
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>>131994115
Pic related, why we should segregate the space between east and west.
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>>131995015
It is already happening. Economy needs cheap unpretentious and workforce, so borders are going to be open wider than goatse.
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>>131992135
I call for operation "Unity"
Get libtards to abandon their US citizenship out of (((white guilt))) and sympathy for minorities
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>>131994775
Funny thing is, Africa is not where life started. Currently the oldest remains of a Human are in Bulgaria/Greece region. We wuz Balkan n' sheit!
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>>131992135
people that not protecting their nationality should be questioned about their sanity
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>25 total posts
>15 by OP
>nonsense talking points
>not troll thread
>ID is tOYSExfW

I think you mean to go to >>>/toy/.

Also sage and not a (you).
Good day sir
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>>131993640
>the new research was published in the journal PLOS One

Its literally linked from that article, you can go read it yourself
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>>131995702
protecting nationality leads to Nazism and discrimination of other nationalities.
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Fuck off heeb
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>>131995265
>citing made-up story by Russian racists as evidence against immigration.
can you at least try to present a non fallacious argument, mr Hitler?
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>>131992135
KYS, retarded commie.
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>>131995984

>non-country tells others they shouldn't be a country too

fuck off.
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>>131996101
You haven't presented solid arguments either, just low quality baits. If the ignorants can make their country work, won't be able to make other country work
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>>131996101
What, no "sweetie"?

>Everyone I don't Agree with is Hitler
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>so we have agreed on the following
>nevermind I'm actually pulling this statement out of my ass
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>>131996305
I've present solid argument: Illegal immigrants are human beings, so they deserve the same rights citizens undeservedly have.
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>>131996322
Everyone hating other human beings is Hitler. You either accept immigrants or you are no better than Hitler, who tried to genocide Jewish immigrants.
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>>131996531
>criminals should have the same rights law-abiding people have but don't deserve anyway
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>>131996759
There is no crime in illegal immigration, as there is no victim of it.
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>>131996911
>there is no crime in illegal immigration
so getting into a country illegally is not illegal now?
>there is no victim
the victims are the citizens who now have to pay to get swarmed by people who bring nothing to the table while draining up resources
if you like shitskins so much why don't you take them all in your house?
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>>131997007
>so getting into a country illegally is not illegal now?
Illegal immigration laws are illegal because they oppress innocent people, exercising their right of free movement. There is no victim, when border gets crossed illegally.

>the victims are the citizens
Citizenship is like membership in Nazi party. Evil bullies use it to oppress non-citizens. So real victims are illegal immigrants.

>who now have to pay to get swarmed by people who bring nothing to the table while draining up resources
You don't have to pay for illegal immigrant, he travels there by his own means. And he is not obliged to bring something. So please stop your extortion racket.

>if you like shitskins so much why don't you take them all in your house?
I'm too poor to afford a house. I live in a rented apartment, with a lot of people, including immigrants.
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>>131997007
He's a political refugee, he surely lives from the ukranian tax payers kek
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>>131997482
No. I live from my savings, because Ukraine is too poor to provide welfare or housing for refugees.
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>>131997581
>because Ukraine is too poor to provide welfare or housing for refugees.

Gladly.
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>>131992135

>we have agreed

Who has agreed with you concerning this garbage?
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>>131997726
People with IQ higher than 79.
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>>131997812

Why do you need to come on here and lie?
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>>131997393
>illegal things are illegal because they oppress innocent people
>criminals
>innocent
if they were truly innocent they wouldn't be doing illegal shit now, would they?
>waaah the state discriminates citizens from non-citizens
yes, a state should care for its citizens, that's the entire point we have countries
what's the point of a state favoring people who are no right being there in the first place over its legitimate people?
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>>131997870
I'm not lying. The statistics do show that racist people are on average less intelligent than non-racist people.
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>>131998052
>if they were truly innocent they wouldn't be doing illegal shit now, would they?
They are forced to do illegal thing, because there is no way they can get into America legally. So it is really the laws which are illegal, because they make harmful immigration a crime.

>a state should care for its citizens, that's the entire point we have countries
No. It should not. State should provide fair playground, so that no entity will be able to oppress any other entity. Remember, you rights end where begin the rights of other people.
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>>131998297
*harmless immigration
self fix. Because there is no harm in immigration.
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>>131998162

Define racist in this context please.
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>>131998297
>because they make harmful immigration a crime
and for good reason, they don't call it harmful for nothing

>a state should provide a fair playground
in fact, everyone is equal under the law
non-citizens are merely out of the state's jurisdiction
so no citizenship, no gibsmedats, it's simple
>b-but it doesn't favor muh poor criminals over its legitimate people
why do you think a state is formed in the first place, mr. genius?
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>>131998378
freudian slip?
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>>131998606

One can only shitpost utter bullshit for so long before the truth is forced to come out it seems.
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>>131998480
"Racists" - people opposing immigrants. Racists frequently have some illogical reason to hate aliens, but usually racist's hate is unconscious. So racists are incapable of using logic, which leads to them having low IQ.
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>>131998803

So if I oppose immigrants, for any reason, even if they are same race as myself, I am a racist?
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>>131998592
>and for good reason, they don't call it harmful for nothing
Immigration is harmless, unless you're fat lazy white citizen, who keep businesses hostage by forcing them to employ you, instead of more capable illegal immigrant.

>in fact, everyone is equal under the law
Nope. Illegal immigrants are being discriminated and denied opportunities citizens have.

>non-citizens are merely out of the state's jurisdiction
So make everyone citizen by default or just abolish citizenship.

>so no citizenship, no gibsmedats, it's simple
Abolish citizenship, and there will be no need for gibsmedats.

>why do you think a state is formed in the first place, mr. genius?
State was formed by kings in the first place, and then by capitalist businesses, which funded revolution to overthrow monarchy. Citizens were just a burden for the most part.
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>>131998606
Nope. English is not my native language, so I mistype a lot.
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>>131998946
Yes. You're racist xenophobe. Remember, there is only one race - the human race. So all racists oppose people of their race.
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People who are governed by fear use their brains for more primal things, fear/anger/rage and refuse to think about things objectively because their bias often dictates thinking or what they refuse to think about.

This is of course on average and is not restricted to racist or xenophobes.
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>>131999010
>immigration is harmless
I wouldn't call importing people who only bring increased crime rates to the table "harmless"
>more capable illegal immigrant
now that's bullshit and you know it
>illegal immigrants are denied the rights citizens have
because they're not citizens? what makes you think you can just show up and claim shit from others?
>so make everyone citizen by default or abolish citizenship
no, you have a chance asking Sweden tho, they don't call it "Stockholm syndrome" for nothing
>state was made by kings in the first place
how do you explain different cultures if it was all the same?
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>>131999191

If there is only a single race then I cannot discriminate based on that factor.
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>>131999387
>I wouldn't call importing people who only bring increased crime rates to the table "harmless"
Again, immigration should not be a crime. So just make any immigration legal and there would be no crime at all. Otherwise Mexicans will be forced to use services of criminal to get over the border, because American authorities refuse to help them getting into US legally, requiring having higher education and other impossible things to get a VISA.

>now that's bullshit and you know it
Nope. Mexican can do more for smaller wage than you lazy fat white ass.

>because they're not citizens?
Just make everyone citizen. Problem solved.

>what makes you think you can just show up and claim shit from others?
Because are entitled to it. You don't deserve it. So we can move in and take you work, because we are better are it and more competitive. That is capitalism 101 for you.

>how do you explain different cultures if it was all the same?
The problem is with racist white culture, that must be fixed to accept everyone.
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>>131999394
Yet you discriminate, insisting that illegal immigrants are somehow different and should not have the same rights citizens have.
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>>131999801

That's true, non-citizens are not and should not be afforded the same rights as citizens. What does that have to do with their race?
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>>131999734
>requiring having higher education and other impossible things to get a visa
are you implying that brownies are too stupid to finish high school?
>Mexican can do more for smaller wage
it's called slave labor, I don't think you should be making a point in its favor
>just make everyone citizen
again, ask Sweden, you have a chance to get your feelgood bullshit through there
>you don't deserve it
I don't deserve to reap the benefits my taxes paid for? fuck you
>the problem is racist white culture
if it's so bad why does everyone want a piece?
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>>131992135
From the first sentence onwards, you presuppose that discrimination is harmful without any arguments.

not bothering with the rest when your material is this weak
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>>131992135
Do you wait in line at the store? Or just barge through the other people to pay?

>implying this shitskin doesn't just steal his groceries
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