RETAIL APOCALYPSE DESCENDS ON AMERICA

>>131348306
Always archive or screenshot

>http://businessinsider com/the-retail-apocalypse-has-officially-descended-on-america-2017-3
https://archive.is/dLzRd
>https://theatlantic com/business/archive/2017/04/retail-meltdown-of-2017/522384
https://archive.is/ivKk4

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Is this what will trigger the next economic collapse if so do I sell my stocks

>>131348306
>cause the stock market to crash

Most of us have priced this in. It's the bagholders with shit in money markets still holding any retail exposure because these niggers aren't fiduciaries.

Not to mention voting for tax cuts for the super wealthy will just further consolidate the cash flows into the top richest peoples hands.

/pol/ doesn't give a fuck about this shit OP. muh race war and fuck obama

>>131348306
Kmart closed in my town, while Walmart opened a second location. Their business models are outdated and they cannot compete.most of the stores mentioned are in malls and malls are dying.

>>131348306
5 shitty stores, I wouldn't call that an apocalypse and definitely not OMG MILLIONS of jobs.

>>131348306
I don't see how it could be blamed on Trump. Aren't these places going out of business because online shopping is taking over?

>>131349218
Those were just a few examples more retailers will go bankrupt

>>131349218
it's in the 100's of thousands over the last few years with ecomerce retail jobs lagging far behind.
>>131349262
No ones blaming trump, in fact he was probably the only person to name one of the culprits and that's bezos. They have antitrust issues. Walmart and other stores need to watch out, Amazon's buying up wholefoods and will crush more of the labor market, and basically dictate inflation going forward.

>>131349262
>I don't see how it could be blamed on Trump. Aren't these places going out of business because online shopping is taking over?

Retailers decided quite a few years ago to stick with the cheapest-quality, overpriced crap while treating & paying employees like garbage. Data mining is first & foremost, much more than actually selling the crap.

People were forced online not to be stuck with the limited crap brands which totally monopolize the shelves.

I walk out of stores when an employee is forced to harass me for personal info to save 10% today, or their gimmick "savings" cards where they upmark it to where you're still overpaying anyway.

Not happy about the Amazon situation, but you can thank consumers for letting it happen. It's all about cheap & convenient in too many towns.

Watch people come together & fight like hell if something in mcD's french fries, or coca cola changes, though. Mess with Potato chips? There would be stampedes of protests to put it back!
People are fricked up.

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>>131348867
Sell as soon as Trading starts
on Monday

Check em

>>131350011
Checked.

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>>131350011
>Check em

Oh Shit

>>131348306
Can't be from the CEOs spending money on dumb shit like parties then giving themselves 100 million dollar bonuses

>>131349161
This, basically. It's much easier to get everything you need in 1 super store (rising in popularity) than futz around at a mall.

>>131350344
Pretty nice ones

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>>131350011
>>131350344
If we keep getting dubbs like this everything predicted in this thread will come true

>>131350433
pfttttt all these companies have been diced up by activist investors over the last decade. CEO's get fucked just like the employees

>>131349915
i work at an american eagle and they push cashiers to sign everyone up for a credit card. way more important to them than getting sales. but were forced to do that to make more money bc otherwise everyone would order their shit online. the laziness and decline of the american people means companies need to be more shifty to make profit

So much for that "service economy", eh guys?

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>>131350011
I'm scared guise

I still have some Walmart stock I haven't cashed out.

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>>131350475
>I actually go to the mall just for a great steak

>>131348306
I don't care - but what will this do to bitcoin, ether and litecoin?

>>131348306
I'm not gonna lie, I'm kind of worried about this. Retail represents millions of jobs in our economy. With stores dying at the rate there are, that's gonna put the squeeze on the earning power of quite of a lot of people. And then the money they'd be spending on other services isn't flowing anymore, so that hurts those industries, and you have this whole shitty cascade effect.

I believe this is gonna snowball into something bad if the trend continues.

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>>131350671
I just heard a creepy voice telling me

*you have seven days till a zombie virus is released*

Check my Sevens

people still go to wall mart n stores. like a swarm. there always in my way. I haven't been to a mall this decade though. these are just stores no one likes.

>>131351095

>buying steak
>mall

What the fuck? Is there a butcher shop in your mall? If not, you're a faggot for not learning how to buy a quality cut from a real butcher and cooking it to perfection yourself, for 1/2 the cost, and 10x the flavor.

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The list of stores no one goes into... yeah deeply shocking to the economy. Entirely unpredictable. Who knew?

Pic related. Target today, and now the new store I will avoid.

>>131348306
Its hilarious what niggers have the ability to do. By just being around these stores they ensured their destruction.

>>131350732
>CEOs get fucked just like the employees

Anon, I ... I don't think those words mean what you think they mean.

>>131348306
as the % of whites in america gets lower and lower, these stores start closing. Coincidence?

>>131349161

>Kmart closed in my town, while Walmart opened a second location. Their business models are outdated and they cannot compete.most of the stores mentioned are in malls and malls are dying.

The only one in my mall that's doing well is Victoria's secret, they just upgraded from their tiny regular store to a big central hub.

I assume because women like my wife will always still go in to try stuff on and get my wallet 2 and 3 for 1'd to death even though she buys a crapton of little fluff stuff online.

Otherwise mine has two asian massage parlors now..wtf.

I'm a gen X mallrat so it still feels comfy but really I only go in there to stare at a wall of vidya or collectibles I'm not really going to buy or a haircut.

Recently decided I didn't want a 60 year old shriveled cambodian lady or nig cutting my hair in the mall either and went to the standalone sports clips full of qt young white ladies.

A nig only barber opened in my mall too. Kangz Korner or something like that.

>>131351485
White's don't want to go where niggers are.

When niggers started mobbing the entrance of my local shit-tier mall, I stopped going and that was several years before the internet became a viable means of shopping.

>stores close
>demand shifts to online business
>new jobs created to meet demand
>rents are cheaper, products are cheaper
everyone wins

This is all Trumps fault.
Probably had help from Russians.
Saw it on AC360, with anderson cooper, (hes so cute)
anyways doesnt matter to me, cause I dont work in retail [Im a hairdresser]

>>131349161
>malls are dying.
And the reason is niggers.

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>>131351355
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>>131351335
It's a cheese steak sandwich, not actual cut of meat like you're thinking of.

>>131350754

>ordering online is laziness and a sign of decline

I'm not going to lie that people are getting lazier and there is a decline, but online ordering is just path of least resistance here. Nobody I've ever spoken to in the boomer or silent generation for example "likes" shopping and the only reason why they don't order online instead is either because they're too old and don't know how to computer (silent) or they are scared of "hackers" (dumb boomers).

>>131348306
It's because of niggers they go into malls and attack people and each other and steal shit

>>131351201
its just more jobs at amazon
economies shift, big retail corps go down people will go to small biz's more, they hire more employees.

>>131348306
Don't know about the other retail chains but I know GameStop is a shitty company that deserves to go bankrupt.
They treat their customers like shit and have anti consumer policies. I'm glad.

anyone else long temporary storage reits, visa, crematoriums, coca cola?

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>>131348306
Daily reminder that Technological Unemployment is not only a symptom of late stage capitalism fueled by automation in the way of software and robotics, but also a symptom of late stage capitalism's granting to the individual a technological ascension of sorts. No longer is a man or woman bound to their community to purchase. A click here, a bank card there, and you've got items from Asia on your doorstep. Also, let's not forget the technology that allow these new disruptive business models to exist and destroy physical existing models of business.

tl;dr - You're actually living in the most exciting time in human history. If you survive it, you'll be telling people about it for centuries.

>>131351640
>stores close
>demand shifts to online business
>automated robots replace workers
Middle class loses corporate elites win

>>131351442
fuck dude I lost a lot of my bonus before jumping sectors, this is /pol/ we hate poor fags
>>131351401
you're retarded

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>>131348306

First came Conquest. ("power struggles", exploiting nature, mass populace control, adverse technology, satanism ruling the world, withholding of knowledge, etc.)
Then comes War. (WW3, People vs. Luciferians, Right vs. Left, biggest war to ever occur on earth, holy war, etc.)
Then comes Famine.(Yellowstone, Wall St., this, earthquakes, tsunamis, misc un/natural disasters, resource destruction, etc.)
Then no more. (curtains close, the show is over because free will got man nowhere but a Luciferian planet)

>>131350866
>So much for that "service economy", eh guys?

There is a fundamental unanswered question about the future:

If everything automates, everything's super efficient, we all buy from immense warehouses and supply chains that require hundreds to supply tens of thousands..

Where's the money going to come from? We're excluding so many people the online stores won't have customers with jobs to fund their purchases. It's all such a death spiral. And like you said "service economy" is bullshit, people need less service than ever, and will need even less the better technology gets. Cue fast food terminals and machines that spit out your burger just like you ordered it.

Here's where UBI and shit like that comes in but it's just grasping at straws. Nobody knows how that would work at all.

>>131351752
The only reason I shop online is because Amazon has the best customer service, best selection, and pro consumer policies.
However there will come a time when they monopolize the industry, start getting lazy and become shitty to their customers, and they will ultimately become bankrupt.
It's the beauty of capitalism. Either you strive to continually impress your customers or you become irrelevant.

>retail AND automation apocalypse
Are you ready for the era of neet bux? Its going to be comfy as fuck asuming economic colapse and ww3 dont happen first

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>>131348306
thank fucking god
i can't wait till all these retail retards are out of jobs and rioting in the streets
this is going to be amazing
i love you, amazon prime

>>131351752
>online ordering is just path of least resistance here.
this. before a couple weeks ago, ive only ever ordered hobby stuff, computer parts, and presents (makeup, monitors, flowers, etc...) online. i started buying pants/shorts online, and the absolute best thing is YOUR SIZE IS ALWAYS IN STOCK. do you know how fuckin hard it is to find 32x31 pants in stores? i bought three two weekends ago online, just know your proper size.

this is coming from a guy who swore he'd never buy shoes without trying them on first.

>>131351859
>If you survive it
How do I survive it if I can't computer so good (code so good)?

>>131348306
Stores I never go to for 400, please.

>>131351640
other benefits
>less roadway traffic
>retail space can be repurposed for housing, farming or whatever is in demand and applicable
>many things become digital such as videogames, reducing packaging material use
>>131351896
assuming that happens (it won't)
then products become cheaper, people have more money in their pockets to exert demand on more products, which require more jobs

I work in retail while I'm going to grad school, and search for some other job that doesn't make me want to die. I'm convinced that the only way we stay in business is because of people who need the product immediately or because it's not practical to ship what we sell through UPS.

>>131348306
neat. Soros is tying to crash the market again by paying numerous news outlets to highlight the death of a bunch of irrelevant former giants who failed to transition into the modern market.

OP. You linked: Business insider and The Atlantic, you might as well put your name as "Shill"

No one wants to go into a brick block store anymore because its a fucking waste of time.

>>131348306
I only buy video games and food nowadays, the food from a supermarket and video games from Amazon since I'm not a cuck that succumbs to the digital jew.

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>>131351859

i know only to go to wallmart early in the morning, otherwises it's a no parking jam packed fuckfest.

>>131348306
Malls should enforce "No dogs or niggers allowed" rule if they want to stay in business

>>131351335
do you not remember the buther in the mall in Dead Rising? There are underground areas in malls, one of the local malls here had a butcher at one point.

>>131352084
better learn to code or should have been born 40 or 50 years ago.

>>131351859

>items from Asia on your doorstep.

This is one of the many reasons if you don't support Trump right now you're insane IMO.

I only need 1 person to cut my hair and personally I only go in once every three months.

Service economy isn't going to float us. We need factories back before it's too late.

I didn't see the Dems caring about this impending doom at all while they prefer to prioritize everyone else's economy (China's) and the great social ills of our time of not getting praised enough for fucking each other up the ass or self castration through hormones and surgery.

>>131351640
don't worry girl, you can just be a cashier for Amazon!you just gotta move out of this state and go.. work.. in their warehouse...

>>131351684
the reason is online shopping
more selection
half the price
it's that fucking easy, retard

what happens if AI learns to create legitimate art? like, art in which normies would swear to god was created by a human?

>>131348306
>JCPenny, GAMESTOP, SEARS/KMart, American Outfitters, and PAYLESS are all shit stores.

I am especially glad to see Penny's go under. Their whole marketing scheme was to pander to the SJW/Homo crowd for the last 20 years.

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I drove past a CostCo this recent Thursday morning... not even 10:30 AM and the parking lot was mobbed. freaking mobbed.

>I need a new job.

Malls have literally been collapsing for over a decade and retails stores like KMart will go belly up, replaced by another retail endeavor and shit won't change.

Do I think this will suck? Yeah people will lose jobs, but it's just like Yellowstone concern trolls: ain't gonna do shit

>>131348306
Fuck those stores. They should be knocked down, home built so it can be affordable for people to own their own home and build a better community.

>>131352408
Sorry it's hard for you to admit it, nigger, but the places where most malls are dying are oddly enough always were the black population is greater than 20%. Like the inner cities of yore, your people have ruined yet another thing and have to find some excuse to claim it wasn't you guys.

>>131352035
this was predicted by marx:
"the crisis of capitalism"

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>>131352160
so the crash ain't coming then .. fuck

>industrial capitalist consumerism is set up to fail, crash and burn
Wow it's like this has been common sense for fucking centuries or something. And no I'm not talking about fucking Marxism or communism.

This is why religion is a failure too. You try and replace spirituality with materialism and the world goes to shit. It's fucking obvious

>>131352529
>go to rio casino because feel like getting drinks and wsop chip
>cant find parking spot at 11 am

my car fried me when i was leaving

>>131352529
I refuse to go with my wife when she goes to Costco. Nothing makes me hate humanity more than being surrounded by them while they purchase bulk products.

Last time I went to my closest mall, it was filled with nothing but, cubans, puerto ricans and niggers all giving dirty looks to each other with security guards everywhere. Last I heard, they had to remodel due to graffiti and all the work they did got ruined in a week. I haven't gone back since. Colors killed malls.

>>131352035
Neoluddites are fucking worse than neomalthusians.

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>>131351633
>>131351401
no one goes to malls because they have shit selection and shit costs too much because you are paying for that brick and mortar rent

the only reason niggers go to malls is because they don't have computers and amazon prime accounts

get with the modern fucking age, you retards

>>131352688
nice flag. Thinking of moving there. Major malls and shit that go belly up languish for 10-25 years before banks just pay to have the demolished to be used as new land for housing developments. Truth is, its a modern era. we need more "expo" style stores that show off product but do not carry inventory. People still like the hands on experience, but there is no need to sell shit.

>>131352584

>Sorry it's hard for you to admit it, nigger, but the places where most malls are dying are oddly enough always were the black population is greater than 20%. Like the inner cities of yore, your people have ruined yet another thing and have to find some excuse to claim it wasn't you guys.

Bullshit, the big chains are folding to amazon and then they just fill try to patch up the void with some nigs focused business that barely come in anyway.

It's just like what broadcast TV went through before being mostly superceded by cable. All the shows became Steve Urkel and Cosby, every sitcom was suddenly a black family. Why? Because all the whites moved to cable TV.

White technical progress like Amazon is so obviously the cause here. Nigs moving in is just a visible symptom of the major market share moving elsewhere.

>>131352723
We're still consuming. But instead of overpriced shit we buy a lot online, leaving stuff like groceries, high priced/unique things and things to inconvenient to shop for brick and mortar. We still buy shit, just not from archaic industries. This is the ebb and flow of capitalism.

YES YES YES DONAL TUMP IS DOOMED

>>131348306
good riddance.

>>131348306
>JCPenny, Sears, Kmart, American Outfitters
All of them have been on the decline for years.
>PAYLESS
Who the fuck even shops here
>GameStop
Made irrelevant by console makers providing games through built marketplace

I feel bad for Sears

I use to love going there. That and Montgomery Wards.

Fuck Walmart...

>>131353216
i get most my clothes from macy's but I like jc penney for somethings, they are quite cheap

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>>131351859
literally this
shit is about TO GET BAD
just wait till automated vehicles RUIN the trucking/taxi/etc industry

millions upon millions of americans make their livings by doing these monkey jobs of sitting in a store selling junk or turning a steering wheel in a truck

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

>>131351335
We have actual restaurants st the malls here

>>131352356
I'm not trying to start an argument or even discuss this with you.

I just want you to consider the fact that Trump, The Republicans, The Democrats, The Fiance Industry, and The Banking Cartels are lying to you.

Profit is life and life is profit. Nationalism and the wetdreams it provides the proles are dead on arrival.

Just consider that. I know it seems hopeless, but consider that everyone is lying to you and you know they are lying to you.

This may be the first step to the true red pill. But, don't take it from me. I'd rather you watch it happen to your society and the world at large.

Carrier for instance...

>>131349262
>I don't see how it could be blamed on Trump.
the Cathedral will find a way as they always do

>>131353334
1 away from greatness

>>131348360
Are you a bot?

>>131350908
If anything these retailers going out of business will only fuel walmart

>>131353348
>automated vehicles
I wouldn't get inside of an automated uber to risky

>>131353456
wtf /pol/ when did you guys add these things kek

>>131352252
This, niggers are the worst thing to happen to malls.

>>131353532
We have them here in our town. They have a person in them to take over if it goes full skynet

>>131353471
it is. in almost every thread with a link, s/he shows up

>>131353241
They sold off the Craftsman brand some time ago in an attempt to make ends meet. Sears can't get any more worthless at this point.

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>>131352584
NO ONE FUCKING BUYS SHIT IN MALLS, NIGGER
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BLACKS AND TEENAGERS MILLING ABOUT
going to walk around and not having perfect selection and paying more for product versus shopping on the internet is FUCKING RETARD PLEB TIER
driving to stores and wasting all this time is an anachronism

>>131353471
it can cnage to reddit text:
>>beep beep bop bop, as a bot...

BIG recession is predicted this year, Brexit and Trump will be blamed 100%
It has been predicted for a while now, banks need your money to stay afloat goy xD

>>131353597
>if it goes full skynet
Implying the driver isn't a terminator already

>>131353348
This Chicken Little shit has been around forever. You probably aren't old enough to remember when ATMs were called ugly tellers, but the same fear mongering happened back then. Fact is, technology creates at least as many jobs as it takes. Up your game and get a job that doesn't require monitoring a fryer and you'll be fine.

>>131352930
Hey, hey now- Tyrone has a computer, he just likes go to the mall for stealing.

>>131353334
I prefer Marshalls. Similar niche, better product.

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>>131348306
My sources say August - September

>>131353670
Detroit nigger tier levels of rationalization as to why malls deaths seem to be so location specific.

>>131353532
safer than some human wagecuck driving

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>>131350011

>>131348306
This is just another step in the direction of full automization and elimination of need for low skilled labor. Internet shops don't need as many low skilled employees per item sold.
Universal base income is the only way. I'm practically a commie at this point.

>>131348360
based bot

>>131353670
niggers are a blight on the landscape of America.

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>>131352843
>Neoluddites are fucking worse than neomalthusians.

I'm not a luddite. I love what technology does for me. I don't want to live in a cave. In fact any slight step back on technology and billions will die, we're just that close to sustainability limits to begin with (look up the yield gain story on staple crops).

But I notice you didn't have any answers.

Nobody seems to. There's just hemming and hawing about "industrial revolution was fine" and vague mumblings of "new jobs will be created". Except they aren't. The entire west is in crisis mode trying to handle the change that's coming, and it's coming soon. Whatever they try seems not to work as intended.

And then you get the messiah complex answers. "UBI will fix it all". "Capitalism is over, time for endless redistribution". "Singularity soon". "Magical free hand will fix it somehow". "Technology.. something or other. Magic!"

>>131348306
Good. Very few good things come out of companies becoming huge.

>>131353348

It is the deep breath before the plunge.

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>>131348306
>millions unemployed
You fucking dolt. Kys.

>>131353931

Fuck no. what if that Uber goes haywire and falls off a bridge or some shit? Fuck that, I want to be in control and feel the joy of driving.

>>131351640
I want you to step out of your economics textbook's "world" and into the real one. You know damn well how these things work when they are actually applied. Only a handful of specialized jobs will be created leaving hundreds of thousands still out of work. Rent is never going to go down only up.

>Fed hikes interest rates every quarter
>Just in time for the beginning of Trump's term
>zombie retail giants who barely got by with low rates by continuously rolling over their debt can't roll it over again due to higher interest payments
>zombie retail giants give up, finally

This should have happened at least two or three years ago. The Fed kept "extend and pretend" going until Obama left office. There isn't a reason for the Fed to be hiking rates every quarter; rate hikes should have been spread out over the past four years.

>>131354057
>But I notice you didn't have any answers.
Dumb questions don't deserve an answer. The idea that somehow this time technology displacing jobs will somehow be different from all the previous times it has ocurred because of the magic of sci-fi betrays an enourmous ignorance of AI as a technology, and economics as a field of study.

>>131353711
Nigga, I hope a depression hits, let's starve those niggers and worthless eaters and breeders who just produce too many kids. The time to cleanse the earth is now. All subhumans will be marched to camps!!!

>>131351859
>You're actually living in the most exciting time in human history. If you survive it, you'll be telling people about it for centuries.

But I don't wanna I'm scared

>>131354057
I don' understand this picture. Every one of these ppl deserve the gas except MILF and Workout Bruh

>>131353670
A lot of the times malls die when they're home to niggers and other undesirables. There's two malls near me, one is slightly upscale and the other is a traditional mall. The surrounding population is mostly white. There's another one about 15 miles south and it's almost exclusively niggers. The two up north are flourishing while the one down south is falling apart, they haven't even painted the damn place in what looks like decades.

my town of about 20K population had a KMart, Target, and Gamestop all close within a year of one another. only place to buy random shit is now a Walmart.

>>131354343
GOY, recessions are natural! You will do as you are told and bail out Goldman Sachs like before :) It's for the best

>>131351684

No, the reason is online shopping is more convenient, and malls don't have any interesting stores anymore. Go into any random mall and every single store is either high-end clothing or clothing for teenagers, with maybe the occasional Gamestop. If you're not interested in the latest retarded seasonal fashion items then there's literally no reason to visit a mall anymore.

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>>131354199
>Uber
>be in control and feel the joy of driving

>>131354304
The death of the service industry will put literally 10s of millions of people out of work

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>>131354304
>The idea that somehow this time technology displacing jobs will somehow be different from all the previous times it has ocurred

It's qualitatively different much like a calculator and a modern supercomputer are technically similar, have the same origin, but the consequences of each is vastly different.

> because of the magic of sci-fi betrays an enourmous ignorance of AI as a technology

I'm really not talking about AI, and the fact that you bring it up shows you might not be ready for this discussion, or think you're replying to something else entirely.

> Dumb questions don't deserve an answer

Once again; you don't have an answer to give. Hiding behind some nonsense appeal to authority isn't clever.

>>131354359
>I don' understand this picture

Common societal responses to various self-identifications and body modifications. Point being even the normie crowd are quick to condemn any number of things, while hailing transsexuals as paragons. For no logical reason.

Specialty retailers will survive. Big box is dying and amazon and Walmart will be the future. Worry less about this than the pension bubble. This will be the next major economic catastrophe.

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>>131351684
shut up you moron

>>131354343
You know that they will be the ones guarenteed to survive right? The government, media, and movements will shill that those with money and jobs must care for them and provide extra taxes/welfare to others. If you don't then you are sexist, racist, and immoral because you are letting women, children, and minorities starve.

>>131350866
>So much for that "service economy", eh guys?

Just learn to code! :^)

>>131354724
Deadly disease outbreak when? We need a new plague. Overpopulation is a threat to both economic and mental health.

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>>131350011
THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING

>>131352108
What are these jobs you think will be created for low or unskilled service industry workers?

>>131348306
They all had over 20 years to recognize that online retail was the future and adapt to it.
They all had plenty of time to launch first class, competitive online stores.
Instead they buried their heads in the sand and pretended people would want to go and deal with their shitty employees and be around their other shitty customers instead of shopping from the comfort of their own homes.
Now 90% of everything I buy aside from food comes from an online retailer that started out selling nothing but books and turned itself into an empire by aggressively capitalizing on the emerging online retail market.
You snooze, you lose.

>>131354756
Not if we get an annual Purge going. Imagine going out with a gang of your buddies and hunting niggers and fags.

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>>131351212
>double twelves

>>131355006
>and fags
*sweats nervously*

>>131348306
GameStop has no one to blame but themselves. They have profited year after year, but they pay employees less and less, give them less and less hours, and expect them to do twice the work. I've been there for a decade. The higher ups see the writing on the wall that is downloadable content only ala Steam, but instead of cutting their own multi-million salaries, they cut everyone else down while they get raise after raise after raise. It's unethical capitalism at its worst, and while I'm sad many wage slaves will lose their jobs, I hope the day of the rope sees the higher ups strung up.

It goes without saying they're very left leaning and absolutely will higher a minority/female with no experience over someone with actual retail background.

I have a primary job; I just like working there part time on the weekends for the discount and for talking with passionate customers. I basically tell off my DM every chance I see/talk to (((her))), but because I do my job well and have like a 95% customer survey report background for the past 10 years, she can't fire me without looking like a total bitch. For the record, she's not as bad as some of those above her, but she's very typical within the company; doesn't like games, men, nor gamers.

>>131353431

>I'm not trying to start an argument or even discuss this with you.

Fair enough, I enjoy a non-shitpost discussion though which is not really what this place is built for sadly.

>I just want you to consider the fact that Trump, The Republicans, The Democrats, The Fiance Industry, and The Banking Cartels are lying to you.

I'm a cynical enough dude to where I assume everyone is lying and I just pick the people that align the most with my own self interest. This is easy in the case of Trump vs. Dems because the only thing Dems are selling with any coherency is "blame whitey" For every 1 neonazi here there are 10 bluepilled MSM idiots out there chanting their own doom. That's just the social side though.

>Profit is life and life is profit. Nationalism and the wetdreams it provides the proles are dead on arrival.

>Just consider that. I know it seems hopeless, but consider that everyone is lying to you and you know they are lying to you.

>This may be the first step to the true red pill. But, don't take it from me. I'd rather you watch it happen to your society and the world at large.

>Carrier for instance...

On the economic side sure Trump gets shell gamed by Carrier a bit, that doesn't mean his overall trajectory isn't the right solution for now. Other industries are going to take advantage of a less regulated america. He had bankruptcies, he has an army of bluepills against him, he gets back up and does it again the next day. That's fucking American as hell.

The real danger is we end up in a smog pit like China where we have industry back but our culture is ruined. I think America is better than to let that happen though.

You're selling a blackpill to me and calling it red. Same as the Dems because they are not resilient enough to think America can fix anything itself and want big daddy government or big daddy magical global coalition to fix everything. I think nationalism can bulwark our culture against a tide of stupidity out there.

>>131352054
Like EA have recently gone bankrupt?

>>131354724
Yes, the big things that are hard to ship to residences will still be around. Hardware stores, for example, aren't going anywhere soon. Car dealerships will still be around, because not everyone wants a robot car. This is mostly fear-mongering.

>>131354805
>Just learn to code! :^)

You're joking, but this is their response. They're flooding STEM and it's already turning a good degree into toilet paper just like flooding higher education in general made a degree worthless.

Now everyone's gonna code and do tech support but also we're going to undercut all locals with H1B type visas to hire Pajeet to do the same job.

>>131354999
This. Also being able to read reviews of products so I know which ones to avoid and which ones to buy is awesome. all while in my boxers and a wifebeater and avoiding all the niggers, fags, and soccer moms.

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>this thread again

>>131349161

I grew up in the town where the first Kmart opened. That store just shut down a few months ago...but it should have been shut own decades ago. The place was nasty and dirty and has been for years.

>Be me a couple years ago, sick with the flu.
>Kmart was the closest store that carried flu medicine. It was morning and the store had been open about a half hour.
>Go there, get the medicine from the shelf and try to pay.
>NOT A SINGLE REGISTER WAS OPEN!
>Eventually found a crowd of people in the back of the store around the electronics register...because it was the only register open.
>Fuck that, I left and drove a few miles farther to a CVS.

Bad decisions from the top all the way down to the store level. No sympathy from me that the stores are going out of business. It wasn't soon enough.

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>>131351566
>Kangz Korner

>>131349161

Kmart operates with cash on hand to buy goods for the store, rather than using credit/debt like Target, Walmart is able to cut exclusive deals on the account of the volume they do, and then Walmart makes razor thin profit margins that only work because of the volume they sell. Most stores can't do that.

>>131355121
Robot cars are still going to come from a dealership. It's not all going to be uber and zipcar

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>>131350011

Oh no malls are dead, I'm so sad.


Seriously though, fuck malls.

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Fuck big chain store except wal-mart

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>>131355197
better than most /pol/ threads tbhfam

>>131353431
So I could still make a living selling drugs or being a mechanic if I don't know how to code?

>>131355107
How many customers do you get on an average Saturday? I don't think I've set foot in a game store in at least ten years. I'm curious as to what kind of customers you get these days.

>>131354712
>I'm really not talking about AI, and the fact that you bring it up shows you might not be ready for this discussion, or think you're replying to something else entirely.
Then your point is self-deafeating because if you aren't referring to automation in terms of AI, the one new thing in the block, then you are referring to the processes that have happened before which resulted in an explosion of not only wealth, but jobs. But hey, I am sure I am not the one prepared for this discussion.

>>131355368
Malls are like the newspaper or the radio. It's a fucking relic from another time. Same reason we don't use horse and buggies or telegraphs or lanterns. That shit is old and stupid and gay. now we use tech to make our lives easier and free up time so we can plan a mass shooting...I mean...a fun outing with friends.....yes....friends...

>>131352815

I like costco, but hate shopping at costco.

they are good for certain things but the people in there are like lemmings with no fucking sense of direction.

>>131350011
I have lots of amazon stocks. I'm keeping them.

>half the reason various stores and malls are dying is refusal to change business models and compete
>other half is rising crime rates caused by minorities along with a refusal of the property owners to keep potential shoppers safe

You only have yourself to blame.

>>131352472
it will be declared racist

>>131355428
Most trades will be safe for a while. Most trades need, essentially a humanoid type robot to do which we are a long way from yet.

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>not going hard on crypto's
It's like you guys enjoy getting eternally jewed. Free markets don't work if its not an actual free market.

>>131355300
That's because Kmart can't borrow shit with ass-tier credit, Sears too. rip malls

>>131353791
How many bank tellers were there compared to the number of people working fast food, in a warehouse, truck/taxi driving, Wal-Mart etc?

>>131355457
Spics and blacks buying console trash would be my guess.

>>131353431
Oh yea and your enlightened post modern neo marxism is the way right ? despite it being completely economically untenable now with more racial division and completely ignoring the fact that the people whos wealth you want to redistribute will be out of the country cash in hand long before your army of rabble reaches D.C?

>>131349161
Can confirm. Local mall in NJ here is dead. All that's left is Wal Mart and some dollar stores. It became a ghost town right after the 2008 recession.

>>131352017
Last 4 numbers is 2017 must be true

>>131355539
btich I'm holding $42000 worth of BitBean

I'm gonna be fine

>>131355539

How do I get into cryptocurrency? I want to be the Nu-Boomers for the money.

>>131355527
Well I'm not "trade certified"

>>131348306
Thanks, Trump.

Glad I took all of my money out of retail stocks.

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>>131349262
It's pretty clear that Trump is the captain in charge of the ship that's going down. It's going to be really funny watching how bad things get in Murica when the entire retail labor market crashes. And no, you can't leave to come to Europe.

>>131354805

coding is for pajeets and pays nothing

I started with CS, it isnt worth it. working with computers is fun but fuck being a code monkey.

>>131348306
>GAMESTOP

Good riddance.

But seriously, any store with employees that are forced to pester you to sign up for a credit card or buy extras, especially if there are quotas and employees hours cut if not met, and gives a survey on the receipt should have that as the biggest complaint.

>>131353532
Nigger, are you fucking stupid? People suck at driving. At least when I get into an auto Uber it won't be driven by a half stoned shitskin.

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>>131350011
We all know how this is going to end anyways we all knew this was coming. I don't feel bad for retail stores. They are ma and paw shops, ceo's treated everyone like shit and up there prices like crazy. I will give credit where credit is due amazon was smart in getting into the internet scene meanwhile everyone else kept physical. These fuckers had nearly two decades to go online and fail and now this is the result of there actions. It's big fish getting eaten by other fish. Thousands will lose thier jobs and the result? Everyone gets redpill faster that ceo's and people in general do not care for them. I am excited for when the day of the rope comes.

>>131355107
The chain I worked for went out of business last year. It was primarily a video store, but also focused on games, music, and books. It sold a lot of similar crap to what Gamestop and Barnes & Noble are pushing the last couple years. It is a buffer. The primary products of books and games are no longer selling like they used to. Books is mainly because of cheaper availability online. Games because of internet downloads and saturation. Games are released at such a snail's pace that it is hard to make money off of them forever. Even with the whole used games system. Problem is that random merch isn't going to work anymore. A decade ago it would do fine. People were more impulsive and would pick up strange bobbleheads or board games. Now they see that shit all the time on Amazon. It no longer has that appeal of being unusual or unique. The impulse to buy it is gone because you have seen it online and can get it anytime.
So many retailers will be dead soon.

Protip, second hand warhammer models hold their value ridiculously well. Invest in Warhammer.

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>>131355381
Something tells me you are the type of person that shops at Hot Topic

>>131355457
I can't speak for all GS, but my store does quite well f-su, usually averaging about $15,000 over those 3 days. We average about $25,000 per week. We operate in the top 30%.

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>>131355616
We're gonna make it bruv

>>131355630
>>>/biz/

>>131348306
Sears has been on it's way out for years. Only old old old people go there.

>>131355630
Easiest way is to keep a close eye on newer coins, mine them very early, and then exchange them for older, more stable coins. If they grow big, you'll lose profits, but it's far more secure to let other people worry about the risk and you focus on the ones that are less likely to go belly up. Of course, crypto's in general aren't stable, so don't go in thinking you'll become a billionare, be ready to wait things out, and make sure to always be slowly taking out real money from your holdings as you do this to make sure your wealth isn't all digitial.

>>131349161
It's telling when Amazon and Walmart are to be competing with each other.

>>131355480
>I like costco, but hate shopping at costco.
Yep. I've been there only a couple of times with my mother, shopping for a couple of items we needed bulk of at the time, but hooooooly shit, it was like some phenomenon I couldn't explain about all the people I saw walking around me.

I couldn't pin my finger on it, but simply looking at them and watching them filled me with disgust and anger, more so than even Walmart, and I really, really don't like Walmart.

>>131353532
I'll take a robot over a Somali or Arab who can't speak English and can't drive for shit.

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>>131355630
>buying into a bull market right now

>>131355700
>think retail won't crash in EU too.

>>131353931
only a cuck doesn't own his own ride

>tfw if only GameStop would stock Battletoads

>>131355503
amazon just bought whole foods and is going to destroy the supermarket industry like every other business sector they enter because they have the most amazing internet and logistics game the world has ever seen
get ready to watch food lions and harris teeters start closing down by the hundreds
i fucking love jeff bezos

>>131355787
Protip: Buy a handgun, find out where those fags meet, rob them of their valuables and their wallet, and now you made a smarter investment.

>>131355700
>implying we want to go to europistan
you honestly you're going to be in better position then us fag ? if we go down we're taking every one else with us we'll become an albatross around the world financial systems neck.

>>131355902
Rare Replay.

>>131355557

It's a real downward spiral because they don't take out credit to stock their shelves their selection for everything is subpar compared to target and walmart, which leads to them selling less which leads to less cash on hand which means less stock, etc.

The CEO is literally running the chains into the ground on purpose to sell the real estate though.

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>>131355428
What is with this meme? It's funny, and it makes me smile every time.

No, the STEM industry is being flooded through panic and problem avoidance. The problem isn't the fact that jobs are disappearing. No, the problem is that technological advancement is now preparing us for an economic and social transition. It's a transition that few if any governments, local municipalities, or individuals are preparing for; in my opinion, that's insanity.

Our entire paradigm is about to shift, and no one will acknowledge the change because the alternative is simply unimaginable due to a lack of imagination. This entire situation reminds me of the USSR in the early 1980s. Everyone knew that the system was fraudulent and falling apart, but everyone played along because any alternative seemed impossible. Same here.

I don't know, anon, do what makes you happy. Pick up a trade, go to med school, become a lawyer, or get an office job. Do what makes sense for your passion, interests, and monetary success. Because, in 15-20 years, the capitalist system falls.

What rises is something neo-Feudal or automated socialist.

It's a coin toss. Until then, use your head and pick something that takes into consideration passion and earning capacity within your desired geographic region.

>>131355107
>but she's very typical within the company; doesn't like games, men, nor gamers.

I'm slightly curious now. I assume she got that way from having to deal with BO laden incels and working her way up from the floor?

Or was she a gender studies/business management double major that somehow got implanted?

>>131351669
Damiano go to bed

>>131355923
Fuck Whole Foods. That plae is for fags and soccer moms.

>>131355381
This is not a she

>>131355779
I go to Barnes and Noble because I like Physical Books, desu.

>>131355700
Not to insult your intelligence or anything but you would have to be very retarded if you think this shit will not happen in the EU. It happening everyware in developed countries.

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>>131355470
>because if you aren't referring to automation in terms of AI, the one new thing in the block, then you are referring to the processes that have happened before

No, these processes haven't happened before. They're qualitatively different. The difference between a calculator and a supercomputer. It's ones and zeros but the use of both differ.

You don't seem to grasp that the consequences start way before any AI discussion. We're just talking about the ever increasing automation and simplification that's ongoing, but clearly hitting a tipping point.

If you have a higher end job you should be seeing this in person. People think it's about replacing a doctor with an android to treat you, but it's actually about making one doctor do the work of 10 or 50 current doctors. That is a huge net loss of needed work, and thus a massive cut to "high tier" jobs thought to be safe.

Lawyers, accountants, all kinds of medical specialities, they're warning us about this right now, because they can see it happening. And it hasn't really begun. But it's inevitable the way things are set up, and suddenly a class of people thought to have golden tickets in an increasingly scarce job market are not just without work, they're in massive debt too, plus having wasted 5, 10 or even 15 years of their lives just to qualify for their job.

> which resulted in an explosion of not only wealth

Wages have been stagnant adjusted for inflation since the 1970s for all but the top 1% of earners. Amid rising living costs. Everyone is getting poorer, but for the most wealthy.

The wealth gap grows every year and leaves most people in the dust, but your next move is to say it's okay because "the poor have iPhones now". And if you do, you've just cemented that you know absolutely nothing about economics.

> But hey, I am sure I am not the one prepared for this discussion.

Yes you seem really fucking unprepared.

>>131355997
>What is with this meme? It's funny, and it makes me smile every time.
What meme, my dude

>>131355717
>coding is for pajeets and pays nothing
look at this dipshit
i'm making $142k/yr salaried working from home as a remote dev for my firm and i don't code in some pleb tier language like java

>>131355846

I know what you mean, for whatever reason shopping at costco is way more frustrating than a mall

good if you get in and out fast though

>>131355561
Less, of course, but that isn't the point. One point is that bank tellers still exist. My other point was that the technological revolution has created more jobs than it has destroyed.
I do two things. I'm a writer and I buy storage lockers and sell the contents online. I enjoy them both. I don't fear AI writing books, but people may read less books in the future. I'll deal with it as it comes. ebay and Craigslist created my other job, which I could do without them, but would have to sit in a junk store keeping niggers from stealing everything. Again, this is a bunch of fear mongering that has been around since the industrial revolution, at least.

>>131355700
That's ok, Eurofriend.
I'd rather be out of a job than have Mohammad and Ahmed spitroast my daughter.

>>131348306
I still don't get why retail and malls are failing so hard in the US

>>131349161
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>>131352584
Who cares if malls dies. Research Westfield, they have a lot of malls in the US.

>>131348360
Thank u based bot

>>131355846
I agree completely. I think it's the vast number of people there, their inability to navigate a store, the vast quantity of shit they're buying, and how long my wife takes to shop that makes me hate Costco.

>>131356103
The "should I code" meme.

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>>131356024
We know it's a shemale. women can't even do being their own gender right.

>>131356140

there are opportunities but if you are a fresh grad why would they take you over a poo who will code for a bag of rice?

>>131356178
>>131356178
Online retail is scooping up the customer base with better prices and more options

>>131351640
>letting amazon monopolize the retail industry

>>131356037
I know anon I know. But this is about the trend not the individual. When my store closed I had droves of customers saying
>I shop here all the time
>This is my favorite store
>I love getting cds/books/dvds here
It got old hearing it desu.

Side note. I could tell that most of those saying those lines were not regulars. I knew our regulars. So maybe in their minds shopping all the time meant once a month. A handful of sales a day can't support a business.

>>131356037
>tfw between work, school, and the gym I no longer have time to read books for pleasure

>>131356014
Fucking. Kek.

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>>131355480
It really is diverse. Afternoon shopping is better.

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>>131356209
Well I dont really know what else I could get into seeing as I'm a little too DYEL for manual labor and too stupid to get a proper college education

>>131356279

retail is evolving

soon amazon can compete with gook amazon, weibo or whatever it's called

>>131355846


How can you not love: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=idiocracy+costco

>>131356037
i go to barnes and noble and books i like i scan the UPC with my amazon mobile app on my phone and order them for half the price and they are delivered the next day to my house

>>131350011
SELL THE STOCKS

BANK RUN NOW

>>131353461
shut up nigger

>>131356140
srs question here, what do you code in?
Genuinely curious.

>>131355822
>Sears
I will never forget looking through the video game section of their catalog every Christmas and circling what I wanted.
I'll also never forget masturbating to the women's underwear section because I wouldn't hear the word "internet" for another 4 years.

>>131355107
buying your own store never occurred to you did it?

>>131356050
Supposedly "online legal resources" like LegalZoom have actually put a dent in the employment #s for lawyers & paralegals

>>131350011
I'll be holding, memester

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>>131350011
Checked!
Thank goodness I was reading anon
Yes please broker, that's right - dump all 20 billion of my US stock portfolio, at the market price.
Phew - glad I avoided that one

>>131348306
GameStop? As far as I'm concerned, they're Pretty steady right now. They'll fail eventually, but they're good right npw

>>131348306
The solution is wipe Amazon from the face of the earth. And while they have the anti trust engines revved up maybe they can break the backs of the American ISP cartels too.

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>>131353791
>Up your game and get a job that doesn't require monitoring a fryer and you'll be fine.

That's hard to do when Pajeet and Shaniqua are put ahead of me every time in my field.

Anybody else here in IT and looking for a job? Do the following:

>Take your resume, change the name only to Rajiv or a nigger name like LaQuanda
>create a fake LinkedIn to give you web presence
>start applying to all of the same positions you would normally apply to, and any that you were turned down at
>watch the emails and calls flood in

I've started to use this technique on any place that have dumped my application in the past and rib the HR girls that inevitably contact me for being racist against white people.

Well this thread has brought me down. Time to drink a bit more of the fermented Jew.

>>131356050
>No, these processes haven't happened before. They're qualitatively different. The difference between a calculator and a supercomputer. It's ones and zeros but the use of both differ.
Describe the process you believe to be so different to previous cases of machines replacing human labour, does freeing labour to engage in other activities of more productive value.

And you don't seem to grasp that the matter isn't strong AI, you idiot, but the very systems you claim aren't AI aiding to help doctors and lawyers automate work which would have previously required a clerk, a nurse, and others to do. We aren't speaking singularity here with a superintelligence, we are talking about something as simple as Watson (which is the tech you are referring to without actually understanding it).

There's nothing fundamentally different from this round of replacements than any other previous rounds of replacements, and your exact same words were uttered in regards to the loom, the steam engine, the calculator, the computer, and many others. Every time the prediction replacing people so that they could do the job more efficiently with a machine would result in large unemployment it has never panned out. I care not for the 99 farmers who need not toil anymore.

So, again, describe your position in a way changing the words with "loom" and "labourer" won't be equally applicable.

Pro-tip: stop using the calculator-supercomputer comparison because it makes you look like an ignorant retard, specially if you think the supercomputer replaced a lot of people in any significant fashion.

>>131348306
(((They))) are destroying everything that is uniquely American (i.e., White Christian).so that (((they))) can take over. Marshall Fields, Dayton's, Hudson's, Montgomery Ward's, F.W. Woolworths, Sears Roebuck and Co., JC Penney's, Macy's, K-Mart, etc. All gone.

And don't forget the great American companies also destroyed that were not retailers: Bell Labs, Kodak, Polaroid, Bordon Co., PaineWebber, Pan Am, Standard Oil, Bethlehem Steele, etc.

Everything those stores and companies used to represent will be held by a few of (((them))). For example, Amazon. As these distinctly American retailers shut down, Amazon takes over.

>>131351201
>I'm not gonna lie...

Shut up, faggot.

>>131356618
This

/Pol/ can easily assemble its collective autism to give Jeff Bezos the same treatment Bill Gates got in the 90s

Will Costco survive?

>>131350908
retail stores are going under BECAUSE of places like Walmart and Amazon dummy

>>131351190
An uber crash would result in the need for cash, people would take cash out of crypto (and other high risk investments). Price would drop.

If stocks go down something like 10-15pc then they should maintain value and slowly increase as people look to add coins to investment portfolios

>>131356050
>Everyone is getting poorer, but for the most wealthy.
Also, this patently false. You wouln't go back to living in the 70's for a second, nor would you prefer to earn the wages they earned. Why? Because not only have real wages grown, the technological advances of our age have reduced the effective price of everything not regulated by government.

That's why a family today owns far more luxuries than did most rich families in the 70's.

>>131356642

>I've started to use this technique on any place that have dumped my application in the past and rib the HR girls that inevitably contact me for being racist against white people.

Not bad, you should redact all the private info and try selling that story to Fox instead.

>>131356165
Better she gets spitroasted by Jamarcus and Jamal right?

>>131356024
Its a female(male(female))

>>131355107
>I hope the day of the rope sees the higher ups strung up.

A problem with that are stockholders. They agree to golden parachutes and don't do anything if they fuck up in the process.

>>131355477
>Same reason we don't use horse and buggies or telegraphs or lanterns
who is we? I know many people with horse and buggies and every fucker that goes camping owns a lantern.

>>131348306
>JCPenny
Over priced and shit selection.
>payless
Shoes catered to autists and women
>kmart
Haven't seen one since 2000s
>gamestop
FUCKING gamestop needs to die.

I literally see nothing wrong

>>131350011
Where were you when Kek (praise be He) crashed the stock market?

>>131355941
How do I rob 4chan with a handgun?

>>131349161
>Their business models are outdate
I believe they were purposely destroyed. Any college educated person can look at the decisions made by management, CEOs, etc., and see that it had to be on purpose.

>>131355230
>Bad decisions from the top all the way down
I absolutely believe the destruction of these American businesses were done on purpose. Look at the decisions made, it is obvious. CEOs and management in these stores could not be that stupid.

Have to make sure Amazon has no competition.

>>131356543
I remember reading entry level positions were being outsourced to India.

>>131356884
>I know many people with horse and buggies

Where the fuck do you live lmao

>>131356004
Used to work for some fucking shoe company as a DM. That's it. Doesn't even know how to run the GD register.

>>131356808
>That's why a family today owns far more luxuries than did most rich families in the 70's.

actually if you talk to any elderly person they will tell you how much better it used to be they had a lot more money and better jobs and a house and cars and everything

now you work 6 part time jobs for 90 hours a week for a 1 bedroom high rise

>>131356808
I would go back to the 70s -
You would have been limited by many things but things were simpler, much freer. Fairer.

>>131350011
Oy vey I better call my broker.

>>131356618
>>131356735
They're far from a monopoly, not even close to MS levels. Be more concerned with Google, even if they hardly sell anything.

>>131356497
c++ (not much these days), ruby, go, haskell

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>>131356764
They have a membership so yeah, people cream their jeans over costco and they make a ton of money from people who don't really go but don't give enough fucks to cancel their membership.

>>131356642
If I'm part Jewish can I put multiracial on my job applications?

>>131356516
GameStop is not a franchise store. It's corporate. Starting your own store would be profitable in the short run only. I'm a gamer. I see where the market is going, and that market is going digital only. 10 more years of physical AT MOST.

>>131356704
When was the last time you shopped at any of those stores? Don't blame them when you shopped elsewhere.

>>131354057
Swede gets it. What happens as automation kicks into overdrive and everyone is left squabbling over the few jobs that can't *yet* be automated? I think we're starting to see it now. These "millennials are killing X" news articles are the initial symptoms - there aren't enough jobs to be had for the next generation entering the workforce and so these people aren't buying anything.

>>131356642
Start your own business or try something else. My schooling is as an aircraft mechanic. I got out of it because I didn't realize how fucked up unions are and I didn't want to bounce around from city to city working for the airlines. It sucked, but I learned plenty about resourcefulness and haven't worked in that field for over 20 years. You picked a flooded career field. Mine was too when I finished school, and joined the military to get experience in my field. The visa problem is real and should be changed/eliminated, whatever, but you gotta roll with the punches.

>>131357117
>haskell
I didn't realize there even was a big enough market for that.

>c++ (not much these days)
Any reason? Is it moving to something else like Go?

>>131356996

So standard entitled bluepilled MSM roastie...sad!

Can't stand people that want to look down on gamers escaping a world full of shitty MSM bluepilled roasties.

I bet she's a Hilldawg.

>>131353241
Don't feel bad for Sears they made the decision to destroy their company. They were the original Amazon, they had the "Sears catalog". For years they sold shit by mail and the management must have consisted of complete retards to not think to corner the online version of that. Just like Blockbuster could have started mailing you fucking movies and stopped Netflix before they got all their momentum but no... The management didn't react cause they were too fucking stupid.

>>131348306
its literally amazon,ebay etc etc. Let me explain a tldr, back and still in america we depend on phsyical companies to sell and buy our stuff, if amazon and other online companies take over that you can buy drills and other shit it will be a giant boulder on their shoulders which if im correct they cannot handle and we will collapse.

tldr blame online markets our economy depends on physical shit
btw stocks and banks are already warning hell is coming for us

>>131357126
I heard they refund membership costs if you don't spend at least the cost of a membership.

>>131356931
They have meetups I'm sure. Also just go into a comic book store. Those guys are pussies.

>>131356884
I have a car, I have flashlight, I have a LED lantern when I go camping.

You know damn well those fags don't use it in their daily lives unless they are some faggy hipsters.

>>131356189
Why?

>>131348306
Trump will push for online transactions to be taxed and he would be right in doing so

>>131356150
I'm not sure about it in America but in the UK bank tellers basically do very little besides deal with the handful of things you can't do either at a cash machine or using the online banking services

>>131356894
>>JCPenny
>Over priced and shit selection.
maybe now since it is being purposely destroyed, but back in the day they were great. In the 1960s and 1970s they sent out their huge Christmas catalog, like Sears did. You could get anything there. My grandparents bought wonderful curtains and drapes through JCPenney's catalogs. In the 1980s my mom went to an Ivy League college and JC Penney's was in an high-end mall and she always found great clothes are reasonable cost (she was not rich by any means, just smart).

>>payless
>Shoes catered to autists and women
Payless used to have great styles for cheap, and also sold some name brands for cheap (like Converse sneakers). Great place if you have kids and can't afford new shoes every month as they grow.

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>>131348306
oh look it's literally fucking nothing

>>131357300
lol that will force people not to use online transactions anymore

>>131349161
Wal-Mart is different and it's business model will hold up, they have products that by and large most of America won't buy online, and will a clientele that doesn't care to anyways.

Meanwhile the middle America stores like Sears are going under, due to catering to a demographic that just does not exist anymore.

>>131356178
>mall has 6 colors of the shoe you like but only 1 of them is in your size
>internet has every size, shape and color of every shoe in your size
>mall shoes cost $90, internet $47
>driving to a mall and walking around is a huge waste of time and gas
>buy exactly what you need on internet in a couple clicks while sitting on the toilet

>>131357052
>actually if you talk to any elderly person they will tell you how much better it used to be they had a lot more money and better jobs and a house and cars and everything
I don't care about nostalgia, I care about facts. and the fact is that if I went to that eldery person's apartment and took every luxury they couldn't afford in the 70's, they would be extremely pissed as they would find themselves with a single tv, a fridge half the size, a most less efficient car, and no proper medicine to keep their drug-addled bodies continuing.

This isn't a matter of opinion, this is a matter of what can be measured, and unless you can show otherwise, the average american family can now afford many more things than they could in the 70's, and astromonically more than they could in the 20's.

>>131357117
>Haskell
I call bullshit.

>>131357229
> Is it moving to something else like Go?
As much as it's moving to Rust.

>>131356233
They'll get code worth a bag of rice. What is the most well known software that came from India or Indians?

>>131357300
>tfw living in a state that already does tax online shit

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>>131357192
then all the programmers who make 120k a year come to /pol/ and tell everyone how its our fault and we need to be payed less and specialize in rocket science because theyre one of the 2% of people with a job still and not seeing whats happening because their livelihood is still okay and want capitalism to stay

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>the retail apocalypse!!!
>amazon taking over everything!!!
>hours being cut and wages/benefits slashed!!!
>be me
>work at costco
>quite literally mfw

>>131356362
The only reason it doesn't currently is because the chinks are very good at protectionism

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>>131357322
>10,000 lose their jobs from multiple companies
>1000 are hired under one company
>see it is fine

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>>131357322
>it's fucking nothi-

>>131357151
I'd say a retro game shop, but it's all overpriced in the first place to get anything.

>>131356233
work for a defense contractor or the gov that requires a security clearance that pajeet in india can't get because he isn't a citizen

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>>131357137
It's literally how I got my last job

I don't know if it's legal nor do I care

>>131356837
I would but I'm not sure they'd run it

>>131357210
>Start your own business or try something else.

I'm way too autistic for either of those unfortunately. I need structure, a boss and not having to deal with customers directly.

I'm seriously starting to think about just going and actually taking the ADOS-B so I can get government handouts and go NEET. It's not like any of this federal reserve (((money)) is real anyways.

>>131357373
They've already shown that they don't give a shit about quality. Every company that relies heavily on Indian labor ends up with shit code, shit products, and the absolute worst customer service. They don't care as long as they can show increased profits right in the moment.

>>131356189

Controlled by (((Lowy))) (((Silverstein's))) backer.

>>131353471
norbot is the best thing that's happened here in a while

>>131356507
>I'll also never forget masturbating to the women's underwear section because I wouldn't hear the word "internet" for another 4 years.
I miss those days.

>>131356858
They're welcome to try.
I have guns and castle doctrine.

>>131357313
the ron jonson era was actually good, but people didn't understand that the prices were low. they literally thought you had to have a coupon or they were getting ripped off.

I worked during, and after ron jonson. people were so stupid, we had to put higher prices on everything, so we could put them on "sale" at the normal price (which was the industry average). they would come in with smug expressions with ripped out paper, just so they could get ripped off. the prices were higher than the johnson era

anyways. JCP deserves to close. fuck that place.

>>131356178
Online is much larger here. It does not have as large a market outside the U.S. Furthermore the geographic size means that stores are spread farther out and farther away from people then smaller countries outside the U.S. So travel 50 miles to the nearest mall and maybe find what you need or order online and get everything you need.

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>>131357347
no they were objectively wealthier and could support a family on one income

just because we have flat screen TVs now and iphones it doesnt mean a single thing when people have to work harder for less pay and cant afford to move out or support children

technological advancement is not an argument, that has happened despite the downwards trend in the american standard of living and we would have advanced either way eventually.... its not caused by our modern system

>>131357347
>As much as it's moving to Rust.
lel do you mean not at all?
I really made a massive effort to learn that language. C/C++ is easy to write, and even easier to fuck up.
I wanted to try out crypto in a safer language, but while Rust seems like a great idea academically, in practice it's fucking greek.

If they want any adoption, they're going to have to make a huge effort to make it more approachable.

>>131357289
>Westfield Corporation
>has a shopping centre portfolio that includes investment interests in 40 shopping centres across the United States and Europe, encompassing around 7,500 retail outlets and total assets under management in excess of $28.5 billion.
>Frank Lowy
>The pair became business partners, eventually creating Westfield Development Corporation
>Australian-Israeli

Fucking Australians, that's why.

Scentre Group as well

> includes investment interests in 43 shopping centres across Australia and New Zealand, encompassing around 12,544 retail outlets and total assets under management in excess of A$39.4 billion.

>>131357322

I hear amazon has horrible work conditions btw

>>131357261
Yeah if you bring it up.

>>131357645
At least with the pakis it's mainly rape, your issue is the huge number of willing coal burners

Your daughter would probably be consenting

>>131357183
I shopped at all of them until they closed. I even worked at Dayton's. Sears closed here about four years ago, bought my vacuum cleaner from them right before they closed. There is no place else to shop. Now it is Walmart. Crap made in China that falls apart. Used to be able to competely trust Craftsmen and Kenmore from Sears ("Solid as Sears"), until Sears was taken over and the moved those brands to be made in China. The quality died and the brand was ruined.

Grew up going to Woolworths. So, your comment is wrong. I shopped at all the places I listed until they closed. Sad days.

Owned Kodak and Polaroid cameras growing up. Have wonderful memories of flying Pan Am. Heard amazing stories of the brains that worked at Bell Labs.

Face it, as each of these amazing American companies die, there is no replacement. Just cheap China crap from Walmart or Ikea or Amazon.

>>131357442
I remember hearing about those years ago, not so much any more.

>>131356764
Well >we just upped our membership prices and literally fucking nobody said a thing about it.

Opening warehouses as quick as possible on multiple continents.

Opened like 3 or 4 within an hours drive of where I am in the last year.

3 or 4 might seem like fuck all but these are places that do like $150+ million a year in sales each...in their early years without a membership base. Costco basically prints money...and then gives swathes of it to the workers.