GUN THREAD

Pic related, looking at Remington model 700. Is it any good? Anything comparable in the price range?

>>131321489
<<</k/<<<

maybe also look at a Springfield m1a
http://www.springfield-armory.com/products/m1a-national-match/

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>>131321489
go to /k/.

also, if you want to own guns that are actually decent, you need to move. There are a metric fuckton of people from antigun states who do nothing but ask for advice and then bitch when they cant get anything nice because of laws. Don't be one of those people.

Move, or don't bitch. Otherwise you're part of the problem.

A nugget chambered in 7.62x54 can kill a lesser deity at approximately 800 yards if it's sighted properly and the shooter is sufficiently vodka

>>131321740
sry, not the loaded one
http://www.springfield-armory.com/products/standard-m1a/

Bolt guns come in tons of calibers

You shouldn't need more than 1 rifle round to kill a human or animal

Savage is a better brand

get a berthier replica

>>131321489
Use a NATO round like .308. Plenty of ammo.

What caliber do you think it would be most cost effective given availability x ability to kill?

>>/k/

>>131322075
How much is 308 per round approx.? I'd like to practice without breaking the bank

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>>131321489
Wrong thread nigga

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M1A good choice

M1A match + sling + rail + scope + rings will be right around 2-2500 but with practice can get you up to 1k yards.

If you get an M1A and choose to not go the scope route you can load by stripper clip which is amazing if you are using NATO instead of 308.

>>131321611
Fuck Remington, they got bought out by a megacongolmerate and suck ass.

Get a Tikka T3.

>>131322403

Right now is down around 35-40/round which is pretty nice. If you get a mini14 or AR and someone lets you shoot a 308 your life will be endless regret.

>>131322662
BUT MUH R700 WITH RED TIGER CAMO BRUH

>>131321489
Ruger M77 variant.

I'm still trying to update my list of guns. I didn't even realize I had a shitty EIG in this pile. Good thing I'm doing this.

>>131321489

You are painfully stupid. It's called a google search on 1st. The gun laws. 2nd. Guns to buy with your budget.

Since you are dumb get a Ruger Mini 14 they are idiot proof.

Can't anyone buy an AR15 lower and finish it in any state?

>>131323011
Why would I waste my time doing my own research when I can get about 1 million leads and personal advice on here by asking 1 question and downloading an image of a gun? Work smarter not harder.

>>131321489
why not a pump action shotgun?

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>>131321489
Hi-Point SSG. School shooter's favorite, what's not to like?

>>131321489
For 2k you can build a damn nice ruger mini 14 or 30

A bolt action is going to seriously disadvantage you in a fire fight

>>131321489
What state do you live in? I'm in NJ and it was a bitch to get my gun permit.

Also, what do you want the gun for? The only place I can go to with my schedule is a local indoor range where I find it much more enjoyable to shoot a pistol as opposed to a rifle. That's why I bought a Colt 1911. I love that fuckin thing

>>131321611

Savage is pretty good. Believe they're cheaper than Remington's as well.

>>131323481
>what's not to like?

It's a shitty hipoint.

>>131323585
I want the gun to kill people and do so before they have the opportunity to kill me. >>131323477
I will probably buy a shotgun eventually but if I could only have 1 gun I'd rather it be a long ranger

>>131323585
I live in MA

>>131321489
Can you not get a good pump action shotgun?
Mossberg 500's are cheap af and if you think the barrel is too long you can get the 18.5" barrel for like 100, bringing the total cost of the shotgun to like 300-400 depending on how much you paid for the Mossy itself. Having two barrels also gives you options, shorter for HD and longer for hunting.

If you're dead set on a rifle, I've heard good things about Tikka.

>>131323754
We'll AR's are classic. Good all around and that sounds like what you want. But for home defense a shotgun will do the job even if you hide around a corner and point it down the hallway blind.

What state do you live in? And why only one gun? I plan on having at least five

>>131322545
Nice lever gun brah, .45-70?

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>>131323675
Well, you can also try a pistol grip Mossberg 500.

>>131324109
With ever changing MA legislation, I dont believe the availability of guns will last long past the next 1 0r 2 major shooting incidents. So I too would LIKE to own multiple weapons, but I cant be sure they will be available forever. AR's are completely banned here.

>>131323961
Ok. Go to your local police department and ask them there for what you have to do to get a firearms permit. Even in liberal states like NJ the cops were more than happy to see a citizen get a gun by following the rules, though they can be a bitch. But you have to go through with the bureaucracy and just do it. It's the price we pay in our states.

I had to get two references who knew me over ten years who weren't family, go get my fingerprints done, than wait two weeks (which is actually very good compared to other police departments) and then I was good to go. In Jersey though you have to apply for a pistol permit every time you want to buy one, which I did simultaneously with my firearms application.

>>131324596
>2 references for 10 years, non family
I am 20 years old so what the fuck

>>131324876
Tbh the cops don't even look that much in depth as to whether you knew them for ten years. I'm 26 now so I did happen to know my two buddies for over that time but like I said they won't do an incredible investigation to figure all that out.

And don't worry about the laws in MA, they won't change that fast. I'd say move to PA or some shit if it's that important to you. But if not just buy a nice semi auto rifle in MA. You'll be fine anon

>>131321611
Hete we go

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>>131324280

We can buy short barreled shotguns, no papers or tax needed, off the shelf in free states.

>>131321611
>>131322662
>>131323665
Worked in firearms retail

Remington is shit since they became part of Freedom Group (might have changed names since) but its a shell companies that owns a few brands and all the brands have issues now.

Tikka is good, Savage still good quality, Mossberg still good quality.

If you're getting a rifle for all around shtf stuff, .308 and maybe 3006 but youre in the NE US so .308 is just fine.

With a decent scope, a Tikka T3 and at the very least a Nikon Prostaff (better off with something nicer, but Prostaffs are banging for the price) you're looking at 1k for a sub MOA gun.

>>131321489

just machine your own lower or buy a gun through a person to person sale

>>131325376
>>131325996
What is Sub MOA?

Get a Garand. I don't think they're banned anywhere.

For your first rifle get a Ruger 10/22. It's economical, good quality and quantity ammo, and the rifle is good quality itself.

>>131321489
The funny thing is that bolt actions are the fucking deadliest weapon there is. Why haven't the government cucks banned them yet? If I was in a combat scenario I'd pick a bolt action with a scope over an automatic weapon any day.

>>131321611
Howa 1500
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/mobile/product/719001340/redirect

>>131326751
I would too. Doesn't even matter what environment you're in. Whether it's a ghillie suit, an urban hide, or the back of a car, you're pretty much guaranteed 1-3 kills before they even know what direction the shots came from, at which point you're already on your way out.

>>131322545
and a Henry to boot! fuck yeah.

>>131326437
MOA means minute of angle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minute_and_second_of_arc#Uses

If you're looking for a good all duty rifle a Savage Axis in .308 with a decent optic on it. That rifle will do whatever you want. You can find them in multiple options of steel and will function till the end of time. The nice thing about savage is that the customer service is top notch.

Most bolt acton rifles, apart from Remington, that are for a decent price are very good rifles for a novice shooter.

>>131326751

Which is why all modern armies arm their soldiers with select fire weapons...

>>131326196
>just machine your own lower

Wow really, is that all I have to do? Sounds like a piece of cake. Thanks man.

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>>131321489
Which of the cucked NE states are you in? You might be able to get away with buying a "pistol".

>>131328062
Their cannon fodder urban cucks you mean. All the real shooters in armies use bolt actions for sniping or belt fed machine guns for suppressive fire. Assault rifles are for bottom of the barrel nigger-tier "soldiers" who can only spray and pray.

>>131321489
texas gun enthusiast here. my first https://hollandrodandgun.com/22-shootout/ then i'd try henry next https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/u-s-survival-ar-7/ there's a few likables there. next i'd move to shotty and pistol. i have benelli cordoba and i cc an fn 57 (bulky but worthy). also go >>>/k/ stupid fuckin fagit

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>>131327363

Took this for k a while ago

>>131321489
Assuming New England, get an ar. Especially if not in MA or CT. Even in those states with AWB the hoops you jump threw for a bolt or semi auto are going to be the same.

>>131328062
The US military only gives regular troops 3 round burst. Full auto is reserved for actual belt fed machine guns and special force.

The standard issue in the army is the M16A4 which has single shot and 3 round burst.

Full auto is just a waste of ammo unless you are highly trained and know when to use it properly. Most people just panic and empty their magazine and are then out of ammo. That's what happened in Vietnam.

>>131322174
5.56 for rifle. 9mm handgun

>>131328974
I'm in MA

>>131321489

Even in Maryland I own quite a few guns, including semi .223

>>131328062
LMGs are used for suppressive fire and your average grunt is no shit rarely even allowed to flip the fun switch on their M4.

>>131323961
Class A LTC accept nothing less! Until courts shut down illegal AR ban get an AK SKS or mini 14 rifle. Good mags down the road in RI.

>>131328726
80% lower dumbass. You just need a hug to go with it and a drill with the proper bits. Go look on Jewtube and look up how to finish an 80%

>>131329062
i appreciate your style, bud. keep rocking; the pleasure's in precision.

>>131329395
That's the most fucked state out of them all anon, I suggest you just move. Even if you buy a gun they can just take it away from you.

>>131329704
jig* not hug.

OP, what does your gut tell you about an SHTF situation, and arms shipments to militias. It sounds possible/probable; not by Uncle Saul, but those who have been "prepping" for two decades but are too old to be anything but a liability in combat.

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>>131321489
OP Move to Maine. The State government, and the municipal governments do not communicate well with each other. Bolt action rifles are cool, but not as cool as removing the upper receiver of an AR-15 and sliding in a crossbow.

http://www.guns.com/2013/02/28/tactical-assault-crossbow-pse-tac15-upper-for-the-ar15-video/

>>131329360
those are great rounds if you want to carry a bunch of ammo. They have great firepower to weight.

But if anon wants high availability + high kill probability I would choose more powerful rifle rounds like 7.62 NATO, .308, or 30-06. Those are all very common and much more powerful than 5.56.

And for handguns I would choose something like .357 mag. That is very common, can be purchased at any wal-mart or sporting goods store, and is much more deadly than 9mm.

I live in NY, looking to buy a gun as well. I can only buy a shotgun or a rifle so any suggestions?

I've shot guns before, AR15 is probably my #1 choice right now but it is expensive. Are there any other .223s that are cheap and fun?

>>131329980
>jig* not hug.
dam russians

that 80% lower arrives in a flat template and is easy for the average White to figure out. In fact, there are so many people who know from building AR's that could potentially mass produce.

Here in NY we can have ARs as long as you fix the magazine. The law is vague as to what lengths you need to go to to fix the magazine to be compliant, but most people figure at the very least an AR Maglock is good enough to demonstrate good faith. You need to pivot the upper to load the gun or use one of those new MA loader things.

So build an AR, put a maglock device of some sort on, practice with it, buy some pinned 10/30 lancers, and when SHTF take the maglock device off and drill out the rivets on your lancer mags. Note this is a felony so don't do it unless there is literally an extended breakdown of law and order.

>>131329395
Doesn't Massachusetts honor pre ban guns? I'm certain they do for magazines at least.

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>>131330254
mini-14 has the same capabilities as the AR-15 and is cheaper. It can use the same magazines and is semi-automatic.

And because you can get it in a wood stock most retards would never see it as an "assault rifle"

You can make it look like grandpa's hunting rifle or an all black tactical assault rifle depending on what kit you put on it.

>>131321489
>under 2k
You have several choices. May I suggest going on Galleryofguns.com and using their gun genie to narrow the search?

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>>131330695
>>131330695
same gun

>>131330695
20 or 30 round mags are available and look very similar but aren't the same as ar mags. They lock in differently

>>131330695
>It can use the same magazines

This is patently false and I have no idea why you would say that. People have been bitching for years about wanting the M14 to use stanag mags, it simply won't and never will

My cousin can build aks from parts which parts kit is available that is the best? 47 not 74

>>131330868
>>131330840

I guess I am wrong. I thought they were standard aluminum GI mags.

>>131321489
I live in NY.
1 get a quick bolt action like an enfield. although you might want to learn how to reload cartridges.
2 get a M3 Garand.
3 get a good .22

>>131331056
m1******

>>131321489

For $2,000 I would recommend getting a solid, reputable rifle and spending the majority of the budget on nice optics.

Even in the AR world, optics often end up costing more than the rifle itself.

TiborosaurusRex on Jewtube has a long video series on precision shooting for beginners.

I'd recommend watching a few of his videos before purchasing

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>>131330046
>357
>significantly more powerful than 9mm
Most handgun calibers offer little difference in "stoppen powa". I would rather shoot someone 15-20 times with 9millememe rather than 6-7 times with 357fagnom, fucking fudface.

>>131321611
I have an older (70's) 500 and it's the bomb however the newer Remingtons aren't nearly as good. You've already gotten some really good advice here, follow it.

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>>131321489
Alright, OP. Upon further consideration that this is your first firearm, I think you need pic related. It's how everyone should learn to shoot whether they be kids or adults. It's very economical and suitable to your learning purposes. It's the Ruger American rifle chambered in 22 LR. Get yourself an economical rimfire scope and have a gunsmith put it on and boresight it and you'll be set.

>>131331181
>500

700

>>131322545
>If you get an M1A and choose to not go the scope route you can load by stripper clip which is amazing if you are using NATO instead of 308.

I think you could still use the stripper clips if you went with the Scout configuration.

>>131331150
Or just do what I did and get something in 357sig. Stopping power of 9mm with capacity of 40. What's not to like.

>>131331111
agreed.

i have a browning xbolt in .270, would have gone for 30-06 but i was like 15 when i got it. Great gun, only problem are shitty mags.

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>>131331111
tfw i still shoot with iron sights

>>131331352
>What's not to like
the price and availability of the ammo, plus relatively few guns are chambered in it.

>>131321489
Ruger scout

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>>131321489
>>131321611
>>131322403

Ruger SR9c (Compact!)
They have 10 rounders for it.
The trigger is supreme (but only on the compact version).

> its a misconception that having lower capacity mags means a gun is less effective, but it only takes a second to reload and you can do it while taking cover or strategically retreating.
> and its easy to carry a couple extra magazines

As a first gun this will cost you about 500.

> Rifle?
The Best Rifle under 2K is the PTR-91 with an 18 inch barrel. It costs about 1K and has cheap(cost) magazines with 20 round capacity.

But given your location that may not be possible.

A good alternative that is flying off the shelves is the TROY Pump Action Rifle. Its basically an AR15 that is pump action so you can get a shot off probably once per second accurately. Given that its pump action almost none of the regs touch it, possibly even magazine wise.

> shooting at range

Forget shooting at anything farther than 200 yards unless its a Vehicle speeding towards you.

If this is about shit hitting the fan you need to practice stealth and urban concealment so you can avoid trouble.

And if you absolutely cant avoid that trouble because it would take you a few days to backtrack around it... you need to learn to be able to get within 200 yards of that enemy so you can blow his brains out.

>>131321489
You cant even own an SKS?

An SKS would be a thousand times more useful than a bolt gun in any defensive situation, especially considering you wont be highly trained...

>>131330558
Yes but there are some issues. It has to be pre 94 which is a long time ago. The good news is they have to prove it isn't pre ban to charge you. The problem now is there are a lot of new firearms only made after 1994 so on those they automatically know if you have a regular capacity mag you are illegal. The law is ignored universally there as far as I could see. Most gun owners have at least 1 high cap mag for their gun. The real problem is the onerous long, expensive process you have to go threw just to be able to buy a gun. They also have an AG who is illegally trying to force dealers not to sell new ARs blatant violation of 2nd amendment.

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I've always felt that lever actions were easier to shoot on the move. You can get a marlin 336 in 30-30 for around $400.

>>131331386
Also checked

>>131328062
>Which is why all modern armies arm their soldiers with select fire weapons...

The only soldiers who actually use full auto in combat are the squad gunners with beltfeds, And even then, that's for supressing fire. I was born and raised in a military town and I've had in depth conversations with dozens of combat veterans about their time in Iraq/Afghanistan, I have yet to meet a single riflemman who actually fired full auto in combat. The idea that full auto is a death ray is a Hollywood myth. If you're actually trying to shoot enemy combatants, aimed semi automatic fire is going to be more practical in the large majority of situations.

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>>131331956
this is the ruger sr9 pistol

>>131332275
They do shoot well on the move. When I was a black German cavalryman in WW1 we used lever actions while mounted on our horses.

>>131321489
>live in northeast
>no niggers around
>can own any gun I want
>constitutional carry

Stop living in a cucked state or uncuck the one you live in.

>>131332228
CT here so I feel the pain as well. Get what you can when you can and keep it for a rainy day.

>>131322545
>meme 1a

Neck yourself. There is no reason not to buy an AR10.

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>>131331956
this is the PTR-91 rifle
they usually run about 1K
they're worth every penny

>>131332424
i live in NY
I carry an AR-7 at all times in my truck.
Compact, put in together in 15 seconds, 3, 8 round mags.

>>131332574
Additionally Franklin Armoury just released their Binary Trigger for the HK Grip so that may work with this giving you nearly full auto capacity, depending on whether you can get it into your state. (not completely sure if it works for the PTR, you'd have to ask)

a 2 shot burst would be very effective with .308 at short range

>>131330695
>mini-14 has the same capabilities as the AR-15 and is cheaper.

Is it 1994 again? Where the fuck have you been? The AR market collapsed several years ago now and you can get them for $500 all day long. Meanwhile, the inferior mini 14 costs 50% more.

>>131332275

They also are very inconspicuous to normies, and are legal in all 50 states (I think, plus it's a pretty fast action. Not to mention they're classic Americana.

That said, the one drawback is that the ballistics of 30-30 are sort of in the ballpark of 7.62x39, but the ammo is more expensive. On the plus side, there's 30-30 all over the place.

>>131332328
this

Other than suppressing fire from a dedicated machinegun I think full auto only makes sense with a sub-machinegun in extreme close quarters combat. When you need to dump 10 rounds of 9mm into somebody's chest to neutralize them instantly.

>>131332410
>mfw I noticed they made the cavalry class black

fucking WHY

>>131323961
I remember getting mine in a small town in MA. Cops were helpful and like the other guy said, happy to see someone going the legal route. Especially because my town was full of unlicensed firearms and I mean full. A buddy of mine got about 10 rifles from his grandfather when he died and there's a lot more in similar situations

>>131321489
An unfucked SKS. About $400-500. With that fixed magazine they are perfect for ban-crazy States. The wood stock is nice, but you can tacticool it if you feel you have to.
An Ares SCR. It's not an AR, but can do a similar job. At twice the price.
A Ruger Mini-14 or Mini-30. Even in the worst of the States, you can buy them for 600 dollars.
Any lever action chambered in 30-30 or higher. Virtually impervious to gun bans, and starts around $300.
Any quality bolt gun chambered in .243 or higher, to let you hunt deer. Starting around $400.

>>131330046
I agree with you in principle but not in practice. As an owner of what most people would consider a collection of different firearms I have come to a conclusion. With rifles there is more of a spectrum but with handguns there is really not a big enough difference in stopping power between 9mm, .40 .357 sig and .45. The simplicity of stocking more of the same ammo is more important because without it your gun is a paper weight. 9mm is quite effective, cheap, common, and can be shot in +p for higher velocity. It's not overly and unnecessarily powerful as to prevent quick follow up shots. In rifles you are correct on range and stopping power. I strongly feel the focus with rifles should be high capacity and quick follow up shots to engage multiple targets are much more realistic of a scenario. Especially in a place like mass there's not a lot of open land like in Arizona.

>>131332830
>>131332275
If you're going to get a Lever Action get it in .357 magnum.

.357 and .38 special are still everywhere and pretty cheap.

Its a slow burning round so the long barrel of the rifle is going to accelerate it to some pretty angry speeds. Muzzle energy is almost as high as a 5.56mm.

You can also speed-load lever actions, the speed loaders can be bought or handmade, its a straw that you push a whole line of bullets into the loading port.

> dont you dare buy a lever action that doesn't load from the side

Texas here, I'm a fan of bolt action. For whatever reason, they always seem more accurate, reliable, and dependable. Not ideal if you plan on defending yourself from savage animals though. And I mean niggers

>>131325650
I thought they break federal law though?

>>131333188
Lever action .44 magnum has always sounded fun to me. But I've never shot one.

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>>131321489
Remington 783 w/ 3-9x scope (.308 or 300 winmag)
~$400
I would go with.308 since 300win mag are about$2 a round

>>131333275

Technically no. The SBS laws are utterly retarded. It' not a "shotgun" or a "pistol" it's a "firearm" because of it's overall length despite the short barrel.

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>Tfw you spend a nice sunny afternoon at the range.
The mauser is 1.5moa with Hornady match ammo, about 5 or 6 with ancient Romanian surplus

>>131329395
MAhole here too.

Before June 20 of last year, I had numerous ideas of what I wanted my first AR platform to be exactly. It was a matter of purchasing a Anderson lower and branching off from there.

Unfortunately, I waited too long and it was literally within that week where I was to go through with the purchase.

An AR-15 was to be my first choice rifle to purchase, next would be a NM M1A.

Needless to say, I bought the M1A soon after fearing our retard AG would go even further into her political agenda by banning all rifles that were not bolt action or muzzle loaders.

It is a excellent rifle and extremely accurate over long distance. However, expect to pay $1 per round for lighter grains and almost .50c more for what you should be shooting.

>>131333404
my wife owns one. Its fun as hell to shoot.

>>131333129

Another selling point for fixed magazines is Stripper Clips are pretty fast to reload with. I mean we're talking maybe 2 seconds while loading a magazine might take 1. Seconds do count but this still isnt long enough to present a serious danger (loading one by one certainly is).

There's a reason the M1 Garand was touted as the best battle rifle of its time. Even with the PTing sound.

>>131329959
Not wrong. If your girl is crazy keep some guns off site. Even a temporary restraining order they will come and confiscate like some dystopian police state. You basically can only own guns at the good grace of your police chief. The good part about ma is that once you go threw all the hoops and get an license most departments outside of boston area won't give you restrictions on carry. Some do especially on the first license before renewal. It's at least not as bad as NY or NJ or CA where you just will never be allowed to carry ever.

>>131328974
Mass and CT are the only ones that are really cucked. RI is alright and NH and Vermont have constitutional carry. Maine is shall issue

Even a neutered Smith and Wesson aR15 is an excellent choice. In CA they are called featureless.

>>131332275
My first real firearm. I can pump em out pretty quickly and accurately, but not as fast as semi. You can even mod the gun so you can fire with the action of the lever and just hold the trigger.

>>131333560

>NY

I can't even own a pistol whatsoever, because you need to apply for a license just to own one in this communist hellhole. And the license itself is "may issue" with no firm oversight, basically local apparatchiks have absolute discretion over whether or not you can get a license. It's fucking crazy.

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Take the .45-70 pill
>Decent gun for less than $1k
>Marlin running $100 off all 1895s guns until next month
>Can take down any animal in North America with one shot
>Looks cool as fuck

>>131333869
How is "may issue" compliant with "shall not be infringed"? Seriously, someone needs to bring that to court. Once it gets to the supreme and they determine may issue unconstitutional the rest of the states will be liberated.

>>131332868
Because it's a third-person only class so you're forced to see that it's a black guy.

>>131321489
Remington had a shit-ton of problems when they bought Marlin & went to CNC. Plus the famous trigger issues with the 700 series.

The Ruger American line is good for bolt-actions. So is Savage.

>>131333762
Pretty sure Maine got constitutional carry this year even. CT blows but all prebans are legal, all nfa is legal, all declared mags are legal and carry permits function as shall issue. It could definitely be worse.

>>131321489
>/k/

>>131334093

It's been tried and it never seems to get up to the supreme court. No money to continue the fight, maybe. The big gun organizations have totally abandoned this state and refuse to help us fight back in the courts.

I'm hoping Ginsburg croaks and Kennedy retires and we have a 6-3 conservative split, eventually perhaps something could happen. I'd say not for another 15 years, by then I'll probably leave this shithole state anyway.

>>131334093
Scalia even prodded alan gura about the constitutionality of permits all together during the hearing for Heller in 2008 but gura backed off like a pussy. Had he argued that point we could be in a way better spot nationally forever. Since then the supremes have gone cold on gun cases. I believe Peruta (carry case out of CA) has been distributed for conference among the supremes for a bunch of weeks now. Unclear what's going to happen with that.

>>131322075
>like .308
You mean 7.62x51

>>131334345
Ya I'm trying to pick a place to live in America too. Gun laws are definitely a factor in my choosing but honestly most states have perfect laws, it's really just those small few like CA, NY, MA etc

>>131333869
I've heard! I was very involved with the gun rights movement a few years ago. I remember growing up in MA, RI, NH in a family of gun owners. Culture of mass towards guns was terrible in comparison to RI and NH. Surprised by the number of gun owners and friendlier laws in RI. NH every mf is just packing. When I heard how bad it is in NY I couldn't believe they were allowed to do that BS. Can't you apply to a judge in your county? If outside NYC I suggest you at least get your ducks in a row and at try.

>>131334457
and then there is always this guy

>>131321489
>gun laws are otu of contronl
just move to Penn, NH, Maine or VT you fucking idiot

This is why I love the Midwest, virtually no restrictions on any type of guns.

>>131334545

I would but I'd get rejected because I was sent by a family court for evaluation at a mental hospital for a month as a kid, even if that's not technically a disqualifier since I wasn't declared mentally incompetent I guarantee they'd say no, and the real worry is it would get some wheels turning in the bureaucracy and they'd come take my long guns as well or otherwise get me to start failing NICS checks. In the best case scenario I'd probably still have to spend thousands on a lawyer to get a denial overturned.

I think I like rifles more anyway.

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>>131334545
My old town in mass, North Reading, was pretty pro gun. It voted McCain in 08 and Romney in 12. I know plenty of guys with lots of unlicensed guns and plenty more with licensed ones

And you're right about NH. I love it up there. Belmont firearms and range is the place to be I even got the hat

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>>131321489

newfag weapons tl;dr guide for cucked states...Buy these guns (used) in this order:

1. pump action shotgun (any common model)
2. semi auto surplus battle rifle with no "evil features" (any common model)
3. semi auto handgun (any common model)

Buy these 1 at a time. Shoot 1000 rounds through one before buying the next one. Start with the shotgun.

Also buy an extra 1000 rounds for the happening, and stockpile six months of food, water and medicine like the Mormons do.

Follow all applicable laws and hope and pray the world stays peaceful.

>>131323011

can confirm. -t. obese /pol/tard with lawfully owned mini-14.

follow all applicable laws. sage info-gathering threads.

>>131334990
It's your decision, but.. It's not a disqualifier, your long guns are safe as you aren't a prohibited person. Most importantly you need to know this: YOU ARE DOING EXACTLY WHAT THEY HOPED YOU WOULD DO WHEN THEY MADE ALL OF THESE HOOPS YOU HAVE TO JUMP THREW. They are hoping you and more people like you simply won't bother applying. They are hoping to destroy gun ownership by making it so difficult people don't bother. Apply, let them explain themselves as to why not if they don't give it to you. In any case yes a rifle is more important and can do more except when concealability is important.

>>131333493

post time-stamp if you're not a shill trolling for info

Best resource for gun laws
https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-gun-laws/

>>131335268
>Start with the shotgun.
Do not do this. Shotguns are for bird hunting and breaching doors. Get the rifle and pistol and practice. Then you can pick up the shotgun and have fun busting clay pigeons.

>>131335757
The shotgun is the ideal home defense weapon though, especially if you get a semi-auto.

>>131335650
Are you retarded? I didn't ask for any info at all, I'm just posting my small poorfag arsenal. If you want to "btfo" someone do a reverse image search and post a screencap of the original image.
Jesus I leave /k/ just to instruct trolls on /pol/ on the proper ways to troll someone.
Also, no one brags about owning milsurp with a scout mount. It's like having a black gf at the range.
If you had any experience in the gun community or the 4chan community none of this would have needed explaining.

>>131335845
Even better, I forget what it was but I shot a revolver that I could load with shotgun ammo. Might've been a S&W Governor

>>131335252
I lived in a pro gun home town as well, rehoboth. Mass can be based in many places. The culture is in general frowned on by many brainwashed snooty libs though. Also the ease with which you can get your LTC A unrestricted even renewed and kept unrestricted can change simply with a police chief retiring. I've not met many people in other states who are literally moving from city to city to get a friendly police chief. In mass people actually will rent or buy a home in a certain town based on how friendly the rep of a chief is in issuing.

>>131321489
Go for something with common ammo, like a shotgun or rifle, but make shure it is a supppuorior weapon (bigger clip, faster firing speed among other things) or learn carpentry and make spears and arrows

>>131332776
In massachusetts, the AR-15 is illegal.
I plan on getting a mini-14 soon to compensate for my cucked state

>>131335845
no guns or fudd? Either way, fuck off with your shit advice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UauxacnFA4

if youre limited to a bolt-action get a scout rifle in 30-06. something like a CZ 557. good sights for closer range, easily scoped and the 30-06 packs just as much punch as a 45-70 and has the extra distance and accuracy.

In 2 weeks I'm gonna get my first gun, mostly for the purpose of concealed carry. I tried out a few different single stack 9mms, and I found I like the Springfield XD-S the best. Is this a good choice, or are there any general thoughts on the matter?

>>131333275
Pic your replying to is a mossberg shockwave. NFA free short shotgun by technicality

>>131336264
Move to a not shit state next door, where your vote matters anon. NH!

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>>131335268
I'll expand a bit more on the semi auto rifle part:
Realistically your options include the following
>SKS (used to be cheap as hell but you can still find Chinese ones for less than $500)
>M1 Garands (usually $1,000+ and hard to find)
>M1 Carbines (replicas aren't as good as the originals and ammo is a bitch to find)
>Ruger Mini 14 (not milsurp but easy to find, not too pricey and it takes .223)
>Ares SCR, Saiga Sporter (KEK you'd have better luck hunting literal unicorns than finding these at your local gun shop)
I wouldn't recommend getting a cucked AR since the CA and NY compliant grips are terrible. I ended up getting a postwar M1 Carbine repro.

>>131321489
If your thinking of going with savage...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmDWZeoJ43w

not my channel of course.

>>131336466
It's fine

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>>131321489
Don't fall for the Mosin meme OP. The days of $150 M91/30's have long since passed. They're great collectible rifles but you can do better for less if you just want a poorfag bolt action.

>>131321489
bolt actions are the most fun to shoot and i've owned ars and all sorts of shit. bolts are the best and i'd honestly only own those if the fucking tree huggers weren't always after the other ones.

>>131329395
I'm so sorry. Your best choice is a Savage 88 or Mossberg 500 12 gauge shotgun. If it's for home defense, load with buckshot and plates.
>moved out of Massholechusetts and haven't looked back.

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>>131337617
This is why we can't ever "compromise" on gun control.

>>131336744
Got a Savage 11/111 .308. Great rifle, strongly recommend.

>>131323481
T. Harley vengance

>>131321489
>Remington 700

HIDE FUDD THREADS
REPORT FUDD THREADS
DO NOT REPLY TO FUDD POSTERS

>>131337786
i vote entirely based off nra. it's my only concern when i vote.

>>131337984
i like the 783 more. need to get one in 300 win mag.

>>131325650
useless device

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>>131321489
>>131323011
2nding Ruger Mini 14. It's effectively an AR-15 that flies under the radar of many state's "assault weapon" laws. 223 ammo for it is super cheap and plentiful in the US. There's some good home defense rounds you can buy for it too.

.308 and similar calibers are great if you plan to hit negroids at 400+ yards but make terrible home defense guns due to overpenetration.

>>131337145
how much do they cost now? I was going to buy one to use as a project gun

as for op I wouldn't recommend a bolt action unless you're only going to use it against deer or people very far away.

recommended anyway:

pre-freedom group remington 700
+good
-have to find someone willing to sell one

pre-1964 winchester 70
+also good
-see above

tikka t3
+also good
+a little expensive

savage axis
+pretty good
+affordable

you could also search gun shows for old ass surplus. mausers are good, but their original ammo is expensive. enfields are nice, but their ammo is also expensive. if you find a springfield 1903a3 that could be a good option since they're 30-06.

>>131321611
If your getting a bolt action, I'd prefer a Savage over a Remington. Get it .308 Win. as you can shoot 7.62x51 NATO in it too.
I like my bold actions to have iron sights on it, in case the scope fails, but it's hard to find today.
If you are looking for self defense, just get a AR-15 or AK-47, a bunch of mags, and pouches for the mags. jmho

>>131321489
>asking gun questions on /pol/
Almost everyone here is noguns or an uber poorfag with a hipoint and a mauser. If you live in a state with shit gun laws, the answer is probably to buy an sks. Thare are also good quality bolt actions for pretty cheap which have been mentioned already. If youre hunting, just go with 7.62x39 or .308. 5.56 isnt great for new hunters.

>>131338663
Depends on the variant. M44 Carbines are now over $350 but my 1928 Ishvesk M91/30 set me back $325.

Totally forgot about the Savage Axis by the way. It's a decent first bolt action for a low price.

>>131338718
Why do you think there are many noguns here? Very political topic. I bet many owners are here.

>>131338718
This.

Went with a .308 Savage 11/111, 7.62x39 modded SKS and also a 12 gauge Winchester SXP Home Defender (18" barrel).

Once I get a .22 or .22lr it will cover every single need legally possible.

Looked at other variants too, there may be some 7.62×51 which will function better than the .308 depending.

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Of course,

The mini-14 always works and can be instantly downgraded to a fudd gun in seconds when they come looking...

Pictured can also survive underwater for years till needed.

>>131339312
is that from big box stores or private sales?

>>131334457
Same shit.

>>131339427
>pencil thin barrel that warps and moves like a tin can

Enjoy your overpriced 6 MOA rifle with expensive special snowflake mags.

>>131321489
bolt actions are fun. 4th of july sales are about to start, get yourself a 308. Little bit more expensive to shoot but its a good round; you can take out good game or bad people.

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>>131339593

No gunz knowledge detected....

>>131339319
Its obvious based on discussion alone. This thread is half fuddlore and people who just plain dont know much. Multiple people suggesting the m1a, the guy saying the mini is cheaper than an AR, the guy who thinks .30-06 is cheaper than 8mm mauser, people recommending 5.56 for hunting to a brand new shooter, etc etc

>>131336265
Pistol caliber carbine is much better than an AR15 for the sake of noise and possible (yet highly unlikely) over-penetration. Especially if they're just a regular person who doesn't practice often. Ammo is cheap.

>>131329062

nemesis of your collection: sand

>>131339457
Private sales. I just checked CA's Armslist listings.

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>>131339427
>>131336726
>>131336264
>>131335565
>>131333129

Plus with a mini 14 you can legally convert it to fire binary(fires on pull, fires on release) with a simple paper staple.

The atf determined this being legal, which I believe led to the development of the Franklin bfs and fostech echo. It might not be legal in cuck states like ny and commiefornia though.

Look it up.

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>>131339959
>cheaper than an AR, the guy who thinks .30-06 is cheaper

Of course, a box or real ammo for it will cost more than an old 30-06....

But a bolt 30-06 will kick some very serious ass!!!

>>131322403

Every rifle round bigger than .223 is going to cost you close to $1 unless you buy steel cased ammo or shitty military surplus. 223 will cost you about $.35 if not buying in bulk

>>131321489
Guns are a cucks weapon.

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>>131340274
Sure thing Mr. Not ATF. I'll go and file that with the drop in full auto AR sears.

>>131339929

He is right though, only the new mini 14 series starting in 2012 or something provides decent accuracy.
Old mini 14s shoot minute of torso

>>131340544

It's completely legal (at least until they arbitrarily decide that it's not).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcIMERWjhiw

>>131340408
X39 and .308, 54r, .30-06 and im sure plenty more rifle calibers have new production ammo well under $1/round. If youre after cheap ammo then just buy a .22

>>131322704

Is that shitty steel surplus price?

>>131339929
minis are shit

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>>131340369

Only $36.99 a box!

Poor fags just GTFO....

Inb4 50BMG folks....

>>131340706
You got me. If 2 major gun channels are covering it then it can't be an ATF honeypot. I'd like to get me one of those if they're still legal by the time I move out of CA. That way I can pretend the future AR I own is an AN-94.

>>131321489
If you live in Massachusetts your best option is to slice your own throat like a kosher butcher, or better yet let me do it

>>131339502
except it's literally not

>>131341177

retard

>>131321740
>springfield
Fuck off pleb.
Fulton Armory, faggot.

Also, AR15 > M1A for killing humans.

>>131341290

Only SAAMI cucks have to care about this

>>131341391
except it could literally kill you if you don't know wtf you're doing

>>131341460

it could kill SAAMI cucks. In CIP countries like Germany every gun that can shoot 308 can shoot 7,62x51 safely and every gun that can shoot .223 can shoot 5,56x45 safely.

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>>131341298

Of course for near field guys, just get a 12 gauge pump....

>>131322704
>35-40/round
>7.62 NATO
Spotted the nogunz.
>>131322403
About 66 cents a round for the cheapest fmj surplus. Over a buck for real ammo.

5.56 is like 30 cents a round on average.

>>131341577

Weren't you suggesting to buy a leveraction for general use?

>>131341576
newsflash, hans. not every country is germany

>>131340853

I'm mostly going off of prices at Wal-Mart. Which I think is important to mention because of ease of access. The cheapest 308 WAS perfecta at $13 a box but I haven't seen that in stock in months and all those other calibers you mentioned are similarly priced. Nothing at Wal-Mart for less than $17.50 a box

>>131323011
>buy an $800 shit rifle that overheats and cant hit a torso consistantly at 200 meters after emptying the first magazine
Why? Just buy an AR15 for less than half the price.

>>131340853

But I think you're right about the 54r

>>131321489
SHTF gun get bolt or lever action. Also buy a field load kit and supplies. Learn how to use it.

>>131341816

I know, just pointing out how retarded SAAMI is.. literally creating problems where there should be none

>>131341620
>About 66 cents a round for the cheapest fmj surplus. Over a buck for real ammo.
Try 35cpr for steel 50cpr for perfectly usable m80 ball and 65 cpr for prvi soft points

>>131341886
If youre not buying offline, youre overpaying

>>131321489
Go semi auto Get yourself an m1a and loads of ammo, that rifle will never fail you
Very important to learn how to use iron sights

>>131342039

the PRIME SHTF gun is an SKS obviously

>cheap gun
>cheap ammo
>fixed mag
>cheap stripper clips
>bayonet always attached
>cleaning kit always with you
>can lay suppressing fire

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>>131341742
>Weren't you suggesting to buy a lever action for general use?

There is no gun for every need.

I have so far narrowed it down to 7 needed guns types while still not buying and AR-15 - yet...

>>131339427
>Pictured can also survive underwater for years till needed.
>he believes the "stainless" steel meme
Youre a retard, but I wont dissuade you from storing your rifle at the bottom of your swimming pool, Tyrone.

>>131342170

Some states have restrictions on online purchases and other states might make restrictions.
Also you have to add shipping costs.

>>131342170
>Try 35cpr for steel 50cpr for perfectly usable m80 ball and 65 cpr for prvi soft points
[Citation Needed] because youre full of shit.

inb4 dead, out of stock links

>>131342271

an SBR AR with a small zoom optic and BUIS is a pretty good solution for everything

>can take down animals
>can take down humans
>not too big to get annoying
>cqc capable

And in the US nobody has an excuse to not own an AR. I hate Americans who don't with a passion

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>>131342205
>m1a
>never fail you
What r u doin hans?
>>131342467
http://ammunitionstore.com/products/308-win-ammo-145gr-fmj-wolf-wpa-polyformance-500-rnd-case.html
http://ammunitionstore.com/products/7-62x51mm-ammo-147gr-fmj-m80-ggg-500-round-case.html

>>131342679

You better hand over that HK33 clone RIGHT NOW

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>>131342364

With Krytox lubricants and modern plastic packing they can be stored easily for 100+ years and be ready to rock in seconds if needed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krytox

>>131342541
>And in the US nobody has an excuse to not own an AR. I hate Americans who don't with a passion

We just do that to piss you off you know >:D

>>131321489
Bolt action for hunting is great, but self defense? Hope you only have one or two enemies or a way to keep space between you and them.
If you're able to, consider a pump shotgun. They have shells for hunting and self defense, hell even less than lethal if you want. I've had my old semi auto Remington 1100 not cycle on me but a pump action will keep going longer than you will.

>>131342403
Not many states have ammo restrictions, shipping is 5cpr, max if youre buying any decent amount of ammo.

>>131342467
>10 seconds at ammoseek later
http://www.sgammo.com/product/308-win-762x51-ammo/20-round-box-308-win-150-grain-soft-point-hunting-ammo-prvi-partizan

americanreloading.com/en/308-win-bulk/1149-308-win-150gr-fmj-free-shipping-500

>>131342239
>>bayonet always attached
>>>cleaning kit always with you
Nah, took mine off, heavy and pointless. Cleaning kit comes loose after a couple of rounds too

>>131342239
the sks failed to save 1+ million gooks in the jungle from the wrath of uncle sam

>>131342934

ARs are literally cheaper than mini 14s right now

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>>131342927
No, mags are too expensive
>>131342934
Get the choate vented upper handguard and the accustrut bruv

>>131342541
It's actually illegal to hung with 5.56 in most states, its not considered powerful enough to be humane.

>>131342679
>steel case in my $1800 m1a-a1
Not even once.
>53 cents a round before tax and/or shipping
Like I said, ~66 cents a rpund for the cheapest garbage I would feed my rifle.

Thay being said, my AR15 > my M1A.

>>131343178

>Nah, took mine off, heavy and pointless

>lanklet leaf sacrifices melee capabilities because of 200g
>a bayonet is literally NOT pointless


>Cleaning kit comes loose after a couple of rounds too

This is literally impossible, stop lying on the internet

>>131343215

ARs could not make you hold Iraq wtf I guess you better bin that AR now

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>>131343503
>M1A
>giving a shit about ammo
Its not like we are talking a LRB here bud

Also
>tax
>online purchase

>>131343346

I have seen lots of hog hunters using .223s in the US. Also I thought we were talking SHTF when laws dont matter anymore?

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>>131343249

The mini-14 was NEVER cheap...

It takes a lot of extra money to buy a gun that can throw spent cartridges 10 to 15 meters like mine does :D

>>131343020
>60 cents a round before tax and/or shipping
Learn to read nigger. Then learn multiplication.

>>131321489
Dude look for a ww2 rifle. A mosin nagant or a mauser k98. Add a scope to it and you're good. They cost like $600 and u can't say shit bad about them considering they have more war experience than any faggot AR out there

>>131343724

Old ones? Sure. I bought one for 299€. Made in 91 I think.

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>>131343899
M4 rifle has been in use since 1994
Thats a bit longer than ww2
>>131343927
180 series != 580 series

>>131343674
>>tax
>>online purchase
I live where the guns are manufactured. There is tax when you reside in the same state as the etailer.

It is much harder and more expensive to replace the barrel on my M1A when the chamber is ruined compared to Lego-15.

>>131331956
ptr is not the most effective but it is undoubtedly the most fun- for SHTF a bolty 308 or an ar10 are prolly your best bets, for replaceable parts/ease of maintenance- a ptr and parts would be fairly rare but it is durable

>>131332410
we was CAVALRY

>>131343724
>The mini-14 was NEVER cheap...
Millenial, detected.
I bought mine for $400 and change in 1999. Less than half what an AR15 cost at the time. Now ARd are less than half the price. Only fucking idiots and commiefornia cucks buy the Ruger anymore. Fucking $800 at Walmart.

>>131343761
$250/500 rounds isnt 60cpr you stupid nigger.

>free shipping
>no tax

>>131344057

>not having anti air and ballistic drop 5k yards sights on your AR as well

pleb

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>>131344059
>I live where the guns are manufactured. There is tax when you reside in the same state as the etailer.
So buy from SG ammo then, equally as cheap and in a different state.
>>131344060
HK91 parts and surplus G3 parts have been in this country longer than AK variants have been. I would question parts being rare.

>>131341177
>federal 30-06 180gr 62 cents/round
>prvi partizan 8mm mauser 196 grain 74 cents/round
???

>>131344316

You know what the sign behind the BE means?

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Since we are mini posting, here we go

>>131344488
ULM proof house or the other proof house im deutschland
>>131344257
Its a 203 sight for the underslung 203

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>>131344716

Nice. Lots of Americans do not know that.

Maybe this info is interesting to u

>Its a 203 sight for the underslung 203

I am aware :p

>>131321489

Cabelas has Savage 10T-SR in.308 right now for $549 (4th of july happening). Great deal for a great rifle.


http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=2464333&type=product

>>131344316
I shoot about 3X my gun's cost in ammo through them every year..... I buy ammo on-line to save $$$ but I never buy cheap shit ammo... Mostly Federal and Remington and now LeHigh for daily carry guns that might have to go against big animals... Ammo cost really are 80% of it for those for us that shoot guns all the time.

>>131344420
>>federal 30-06 180gr 62 cents/round

220 grain 30-06 is about $1.50 per round but it really shows them paper targets who is da boss!!! :D

>>131336726
Also CETME and PTR91 are gtg in MA. AR's and AK's as well if owned before 7/20/16, stupid money though. SKS if on a budget, M1A if they have the dough.

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>>131345097
>I shoot about 3X my gun's cost in ammo through them every year
Im not really shocked
Also;
>I never buy cheap shit ammo
>Remington
:^)

>>131344941
One must be in the know if they are jerking it to HK

>>131343717
I think they use ar's chambered to .300 blackout, .458, or .308.

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>>131337984
Do you know anything about bullet ogive? The maximum length for bullet seating in your ar15 mag is 2.265", this is the longest round you can fire from your semi automatic mag fed rifle. That's not anywhere near the lands of your barrel which leaves about .375" of bullet jump before the projectiles starts to spin. That's a lot! If you care for any sort of accuracy you will respect bolts and "fudd" guns, they are superior to your scary black rifles. Remember one accurate bullet is more effective than thirty misses

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>>131343717
>>131345671
Most states where people hunt them they are classified as pest animals and can be blown away with whatever you'd like

>>131321489
I have a ruger 10/22 long rifle with 20 round magazine capacity. this is good for small game and its fast firing could also come in handy.

>>131345786

When was your autism diagnosed?

>>131345671

I am pretty sure its 223 m8. .223 is restricted for hunting a lot here, you cant shoot hogs, roe bucks etc with it. But you are allowed to shoot 1 year old hogs in most states and in all states deer with .223

Poachers often kill roe buck with .22s. Shot to the spine

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Here is a fun tip...

My cheap ass Nikon scope has photo filter treads on it so I got a deep yellow photo filter off ebaby for $5.00.

I REALLY LIKE THIS!!!

These filter are normally like $35 so shop around... But they make the sight picture vastly better and are a nice scope cap that can be easily replaced or cleaned if needed.

>>131324596
>firearms permit
Lol wut? I'm in CA and all I had to do was A) be 18, and B) wait ten days, then I bought a nugget.

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>>131346106
t. kraut
Does momma Merkel even trust you with firecrackers?
There a science to it you fuck

>>131346207
what is the model name of the scope??? this looks dope af... (i can use my camera's polarized/UV filters on this too)

You could come to NC or SC and buy any rifle you want. The only restrictions in any state should be restrictions on out of state residents purchasing handguns...

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posting this for people that want guns but are on a budget

>>131340446
Found the Californian.

>>131346607

t. Boomer

I shoot your eye out at 200 meters with my AR and its a 11,5" barrel one.

>>131346652

Nikon $95 3-9X buck master off Amazon. Damn nice scope really.

https://www.amazon.com/Nikon-Buckmasters-II-3-9x40-BDC/dp/B00SMX8RIE

Filter is a Vivitar 43mm deep yellow (g) NOS a guy was selling for a song... Any 43mm camera filer will screw right on. I got a clear glass one too that I can put on to protect the scope lens. If it gets busted I don't care. I hate scope caps so with the filter glass there real damage to the scope is not a worry.....

>>131323754
hey pleb, slugs can hit at range, shotguns are the best on a budget.

>>131347164
You're an idiot

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>>131347304
Thats badass... Thanks Anon

>>131345249
CETMEs and PTR's are a no-go in CA. Can't have a flash hider and they have to have the retarded grip wraps. I want a PTR-91 though...

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>>131346652
>>131347707

aNOTHER PIC....

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>>131321489

Fucking move then faggot Whiny bitch.

Do like the rest of Red State America, choose guns over a decent paycheck.

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>>131321489
what about pump shotguns OP?

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>>131348045
Shiet thats sexy, what caliber?

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>>131348045

Upgrade the heat shield man

>>131323309
this

stop being a faggot. Buy the lower and build it.

>>131321489
Any gunfags on here into black powder?
i want to make my own bullets and powder.
Is there a company out there that makes a solid rifle? I hate synthetic. Something 100% simple. I want it for long term when no more bullets.

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Best gunfu passing through

>>131348238
Implying obamacare helped the south and it's not negroes taking welfare, yea ok.

>>131347505
This. A guy at the range today was slaying it at 100m with a maverick 88 and slugs, just the bead

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Ar15 style semi auto

40 S&W semi auto handgun

Or if you can't get those get a Remington 700/Savage chambered in 7.62 NATO/.308

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>>131348480

http://ruger.com/products/mini14RanchRifle/specSheets/5805.html

I paid $750 two years ago for it new.

>>131348625
>Upgrade the heat shield man

I was thinking of just leaving it off... I really USE that gun... When walking way up in the far mountains it is my little friend in case some big animal wants to try to kick my ass... :)

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>>131348959
>posting a photo taken by a guy who looks like this
>>131348859
Do you want modern or classic styling?
>>131349150
>I paid $750 two years ago for it new.
You overpaid, ruger sells those to dealers for $589

>>131344226
Me and my buddy bought a Mini-14 (me) and he got a Mini-30. We only paid $350 for ours in may of 99.. it was teh single shittiest rifle I have ever owned. his broke his heart at how utterly innacurate it was and turned him against ruger for life, from their shitty customer service.

the barrels werent even fully rifled. the last 1/6th the barrel was fucking smoothbore, no rifling at all.

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>>131349229
>giving a shit about who takes the photo

>>131349150

Why would you leave it off? This would provoke jams

>>131348625
>Upgrade the heat shield man

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/744538/choate-ventilated-handguard-ruger-mini-14-mini-30-synthetic-black

Oh shit.... Don't tell wifey I might have to get one! ;)

>>131325650
those arent shotguns, they are "firearms".

>>131349229
Whatever is cheaper and longer lasting.

>>131349229
>You overpaid, ruger sells those to dealers for $589

So that why my gun store runs up and gives my free coke and stuff every time I walk in there.... :D

>>131330868
>>It can use the same magazines
>This is patently false and I have no idea why you would say that. People have been bitching for years about wanting the M14 to use stanag mags, it simply won't and never will
>>131330960
>I guess I am wrong. I thought they were standard aluminum GI mags.

There are magazines available that fit both kinds of locking mechanisms. They are not top quality though. I bought a dozen for SHTF scenarios and have never taken them out of the wrapper.

>>131331202
I agree.

>>131349546

Do it. There is also a very nice Hogue Ghillie Green stock for the Mini 14 out there, I got it myself for mine. Looks way better especially in combination with the choate heat shield

>>131330942
AMD 63 or 65.

>>131332856
>Other than suppressing fire from a dedicated machinegun I think full auto only makes sense with a sub-machinegun in extreme close quarters combat. When you need to dump 10 rounds of 9mm into somebody's chest to neutralize them instantly.

Yep. If you're not being overrun by waves of redguards, you don't need full auto.

>>131321489
>dude. Humans arnt that hard to kill. 30.06 and .270 are straight

>>131350228

I just ordered it!!!!

>>131349994
I have used the Tapco 30 round Mini-14 .223 mags with zero problems. CAGE 3E2Q7. They are like $8... But if SHTF I would grab the original $40 Ruger mags....

>>131321489
Your first rifle should probably be something cheap and easy to use, like a 22lr.

>>131351418

Just get a ruger 10/22 at a pawnshop for a song. Trade it a week later for an AR-15 ;)

Protip: 22lr cleaaning kits work find too for the .223 AR :D

>>131321489
How haven't Mods moved this thread to
>>>/k/
I blame the Jews desu