/Christ/chan CHRISTIAN GENERAL - REPENT! STOP SINNING!

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>>131238359
Constant off-topic shitpost threads sure are grwat.

>>131238359
Stop shoving religion in everyone's trought

>>131238525
are you the naturefag anon?

>>131238067

People within marriages are called to remain chaste in their marriage.

This means only having sex if it is open to the possibility of creating children, or if it restrained and respectful, like sex only during the off days of the woman's hormonal cycles.
Disrespectful sex is things like sodomy and contraceptive sex.

Lust can very easily creep up on a relationship and ruin it.
Chastity is something that all people need to practice at all times in their life.
It's not something that people only have to think about before marriage.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8IGVfZRITs

>>131238622
>Create thread that you're free not to view.
>forcing religion.
>forcing.

Anyone know of any Orthodox churches in Northern California? I am about to be moving there(unfortunately)

>>131238359
Amen!

>>131238525
Naturefag from last thread detected. I'm convinced you are just some troll now.

http://www.academia.edu/1340542/Prayer_in_the_Qumran_Texts

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am i retarded for being amazed at this shit

>>131238257

I've heard Protestants try to explain those passages away by claiming that Paul was specifically referring to homosexual prostitutes, and was not referring to monogamous homosexual relationships.

The bible is made of of ink and paper. Anyone can interpret it as they wish. That is why the Magisterium of the living Church is necessary.

>>131238902

Should the bible be the only guide?
Especially when you see things like this?
>>131236444

It would be nice to have the bible as the one authority and everyone interprets it the correct way. But it just doesn't work, evidently.

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Keep The Faith Strong!!!

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Matthew 13: 24-30

>Jesus told them another parable: “The Kingdom of heaven is like this. A man sowed good seed in his field. One night, when everyone was asleep, an enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat and went away. When the plants grew and the heads of grain began to form, then the weeds showed up. The man's servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, it was good seed you sowed in your field; where did the weeds come from?’ ‘It was some enemy who did this,’ he answered. ‘Do you want us to go and pull up the weeds?’ they asked him. ‘No,’ he answered, ‘because as you gather the weeds you might pull up some of the wheat along with them. Let the wheat and the weeds both grow together until harvest. Then I will tell the harvest workers to pull up the weeds first, tie them in bundles and burn them, and then to gather in the wheat and put it in my barn.’”

Psalm 127

3 Lo, children are an heritage of the Lord: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.

4 As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth.

5 Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate.

https://youtu.be/vA4qwxilt08

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>>131239605

http://cesletter.com/Letter-to-a-CES-Director.pdf

And if you call yourself a Mormon, for the love of God please check out the link.

>>131238359
As a Catholic I have to confess that I love hearing Protestant pop music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy9nwe9_xzw

I know I know...

REMINDER THAT IF YOU'RE A KJV FAG, YOU'RE A SERVANT OF DER EWIGE JUDE.

GREEK OR BU$T.

>>131238359

I was raped when I was 14 or 13. No penetration, but I had to masturbate an older man. I didn't enjoy, I hated it, and was repulsed by it to the max.

What about the flesh becoming one? Is there something I must do to be good with God?

>>131240292
It was done against your will or under coercion. You are not at fault and you are forgiven.

>>131240292
You should go and talk with your local Priest.

Random anyonymous people can't help you for real.

>>131240156
Why's that? I am about to get this https://www.amazon.com/Orthodox-Study-Bible-Hardcover-Christianity/dp/0718003594/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_pdt_img_top?ie=UTF8

>>131240402
>>131240453

I already healed myself mentally. I just want to know if I'm good with God.

What about the flesh becoming one? I don't want it to become one with another men.

I sinned, I had sex with multiple women. Lots of harlots and low life women. But at least not a man.

>>131239354

Interesting.

You could interpret the good produce and weeds as people. There are inherently good people created and inherently bad people created. And at judgement, the good a seperated from the bad and the bad are thrown into hell. Thus giving the passage a very Calvinist slant.

Or, you could interpret the good produce and the weeds as an individuals good works, with the bad works being sown by the evil one. At the time of ones death, there is a "burning" to purify the harvest. Thus giving it a very Roman Catholic slant.

>>131238359
LMAO JUST REPENT BRO

like it's that easy

most of you faggots won't even make it into heaven

my brother has seen the angels, however god appeared in another form.
He was a major skeptic and used to laugh at me, now he tells me on a daily basis how amazing it was and reminds me 'it's real man trust me'.

It's coming bros, I've been a bad bastard for years because although I've tried hard to be faithful the temptation of sin is too great coupled with the 'maybe he's not real' factor.

Not anymore, I try to stop when any decision I make may be a bad one and actively try to be a better person.
Not looking forward to the day of judgement, there's shit I've done I don't want anyone to know but I deserve it and will accept whatever I am judged as.

Repent bros, shit's real, also god is a cool guy and the angels have an amazing sense of humor, it's not all fire and brimstone.

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Genesis 1:1
In the beginning God created the heaven and the eart
Big Bang BTFO

Genesis 1:24
And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
Evolution BTFO

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>>131238626
>>131238837
>anyone not liking my shit threads must be one guy
Fuck off

>>131240292
Sin is a break in your relationship with God as a result of your own free will choice to reject His love by doing harm to yourself or another.

Victims of rape have done no sin, their relationship with God is not changed by the evil actions of another.

It's the rapist who needs to worry.

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>>131240456
Look up the Greek Septuagint.

Basically, KJV is based off of Christ killer scripture while the Septuagint had to be literally thrown out of Rabbinical Judaism because it pointed so heavily to Jesus being the messiah.

Prior to it be anathematized by the kikes Greek Jews had used the Septuagint since they grew up only knowing Greek. So, this one guy, can't remember his name, had 3 people translate Jewish scripture into Greek (all 3 of them were in separate locations to avoid collaboration) and all 3 of the texts were consistent with each other.

If you're reading KJV you're doing yourself a disservice by not reading a bible based off the Septuagint.

>>131240856

You ever tried to pray for people you hate?

You ever tried to forgive who did you wrong?

It's the hardest thing ever, to wish good for who you deeply hate. It's the hardest thing ever to humble yourself and ask God to take care of who tried to destroy you emotionally or even straight kill you.

It feels humiliating. I tried doing it. It's hard work.

>>131241050
Ok so the Orthodox study bible should be good to go

>>131240292
>Is there something I must do to be good with God?
Accept the save grace affording through Christ's work, not your's. Good works are evidence of your salvation, not the means of it. Some people may even struggle their entire lifetimes. Don't give up on him, because he hasn't given up on you, and he's had an eternity to deliberate over the matter.

Here's another way to think of it.

Assuming you love God.

God has everything.

What do you get for someone who has everything?

Fuckin' nuttin', m8

You can't give him anything He can't have any other way.

Accept what He's offered. You're the one wanting. Not Him. Just take it. He's offering.

>>131241120
Yup.

1 John 5
4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

Revelation 21:7
He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

Revelation 3:5
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

1 John 3
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Romans 4
7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

>>131240292
>raped
>No penetration
>14 or 13
Nah, you're a fag who jerks off older guys.

Galatians
2:16/21
16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

3:6-11
6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.
7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.
10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

5:4-5
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.

>>131240732
Then stop, ask for forgiveness and turn your life around.

>>131240456
Good choice anon

>>131240986
>proof by assertion
>circular reasoning

>>131241184
>he that overcome all things
Huh...so much for Faith Alone

>>131241420

I'm trying, I'm about to stop it totally

1 Thessalonians 5:21

Test all things, hold fast what is good.

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>>131240456
Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzUyWOGCiS4
There are two lines in bible translations. The KJV is Gods word.

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>>131241799
saved yur image

always nice to have to prove a point

I had dreams of dying, and after some time going to a giant church like it was heaven.

I dreamed about God making promises of giving me everything(not WHATEVER I WANT, but lots of things that he presented me) I wanted if I chose to side with him.

I dreamed of being a joker poltergeist that HAD to flee in the presence of the cross, and seeing a giant cross on the horizon after flying away from the window.

Are there any true on those dreams?

If I am saved by faith alone why does the Bible keep hammering me about judgement?

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>>131241995
I got it from this website along with this image.
http://www.kingjamesvideoministries.com

>>131241799
Is the Orthodox bible missing those?

>>131241799
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IWawfP5Sj0k
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zyLGGVJzbFs
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=53BN9tTDoCw

>>131240750
I am roman Catholic and the first explanation is the most evident to me.

>>131242258
The explanation says that God didn't put the weeds there, so it definitely cannot be of a Calvinist slant since if that is the case, God did put the weeds there

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bump

>>131242237
KJV worship is an age-old meme and follows the same mindset that protestants have of the church of the first millennia: "Everything was wrong until now. Everyone was wrong until now."

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>>131242076
ya the bible is weird like that

like the sheeps and the goats isnt even talking about christians being judged its only people who live during the tribulation period

you could come out of that with works salvation if youre not careful and know what yur doing

but yes dont get scared theres always so many verses to go back to assure urself u can not be cast out once u saved

>>131238359
I might go to church tomorrow, that would be second sunday in a row

>>131241002
sorry I used the confederate flag (since in the only flag I'd fly) in the last thread and butt blasted all these Christ faggots and their desert nigger book worship.

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>>131242652

Do it

Bump

>>131242631
Funny because nowhere in any of the verses about judgement did any implication of excluding Christians exist

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LET IT BE KNOWN ALL CHRISTIANS IN THIS THREAD.

That, no tree you can say. Will reach haven without roots in hell.

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>>131242712
>desert nigger

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bump for Jesus

>>131243047
A nigger is someone who does something on the most basic level of human interaction.

That is why I consider Christianity to be a nigger tier religion. It is a sheep conformity if you want to be a flock that's your own business. I'd rather be the lion that preys on the weak like nature designed.

bump for Jesus, and please, someone answer me
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>>131242800
ahhh so ur a cathocuck

-_____-

sucks these threads are filled with them

>>131243220
It's slang for negroid. You also sound like you belong on reddit or /leftypol/.

>>131243236
What is truth?

>>131243368
If I belonged there, I'd be there you fucking idiot nigger. Do you think I'm to stupid to go where I want to be?

I'm glad my god doesn't give a shit if I hate you, it makes it much more satisfying to me.

>>131243347
>ahhh so ur a cathocuck
That doesn't change what I just said.

>>131243442
>If I belonged there, I'd be there you fucking idiot nigger.

You certainly don't belong here. And you have no god.

>>131243385

Does God speak by dreams? Was it him or was it me? Or something else?

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>>131242247
Great videos.

Hears a list of how bad the NIV is.
http://www.kingjamesvideoministries.com/NIVOmissions.pdf

>>131243540
Nice welcoming world view.

>>131243662
It's welcoming to those who seek it. You don't. Therefore, you don't belong here.

>>131243751
Do you have to be seeking to stumble upon something great? God you're fucking ignorant I see why you're a christian.

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Bumpz

>>131238711
This

>>131243826
I restate what I have already said. If a man goes into a church to praise the deceiver he is not welcomed into the church.

>>131241799


Excellent image.

The KJV is the official Bible and Official Cannon.

Those of you looking to get into Christianity, get the KJV bible.

>131240986
Actually this supports bbt and evolution

>>131242076
saved by faith, rewarded by works

>>131243942
I'm not convinced that there is any deceiver other than yourself.

To deceive me into thinking you have some sort of otherworldly authority that you have no more than I have.

Any fellow Mormons in here?

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>>131238622

>>131244323
What happens if no works?

Bump, and god bless you all.

>>131243520
Some "Christians" believe in Once Saved, Always Saved. It's as ridiculous as it sounds.

Folks what do you think of christian gnosticism?

>>131244327
>To deceive me into thinking you have some sort of otherworldly authority that you have no more than I have.
I have the authority to tell you about Our Lord. I cannot do anything more to you, nor you to I.

>>131243603
God is the God of all things, dreams included. But what's your concern? Accept Him and receive all He offers, or else fiddle with your own salvation and flee in repulsion as your works only serve to tarnish what isn't blemished.

The work has been done. All you can do is trust in what has been done for your sake.

Want to do more in thanks? Go for it. Glorify and proclaim His name.

Be at peace.

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>>131244485
Ok, but how do I stop being lewd?

>>131244333
Me

>>131238930

wtf the fedora is right at his head

>>131244333
This is a general for Christianity, Anon.

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>>131244414
1 Corinthians 3:15
If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

>>131244564
Are you sincere or just shitposting?

>>131244528
I have the authority to tell you about nature, its all around you. Literally shapes your world day to day. I think you're silly for ignoring the obvious.

>>131244564
being yourself is better than being uncomfortable trying to fit into someone else's weird world view.

>>131244649
I have never ignored nature.

>It's an autistic anon shitposts a thread for hours instead of just hiding it and continuing browsing episode
Wew

>>131238359
Face it christians, you're not going to regain any political footing after the Left blew your crazy out of the water.

>>131244706
Then don't complain when someone stronger and better (me) comes to dominate over you. It's only natural.

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>>131244604
Huh that sounds like some sort of Purgatory

>>131244637
Little of both.

>>131244819

I prefer to convert to Christ and his church to the leftist church ANY DAY.

People will want to get away from the filth the world is becoming, and the church(churches) must be prepared to it. A part of the flock will return.

>>131244895
That seems highly irrelevant to the nature of this thread which is to discuss Jesus Christ, Our Lord and Savior.

Why are you in this thread if not to discuss Christianity?

>>131244323
>>131244414
>>131244604

https://youtu.be/q79rgQwV-aQ

>>131244983
I'm waiting for something interesting or actually divine to happen. Someone to say something that's actually powerful that is something that could ONLY be inspired by the divine.

I just see weak flesh attaching themselves to old ideals no longer fit for the ever changing world. Which is fine if you're into that sort of thing, but nature gives me the ability to tear all that down so I'll do that for my own amusement.

>>131245142
But you haven't torn a single thing down.

Praise Marduk, monotheism was a mistake for the weak minded.

YHWH fooled you twice, first the jews then even more hilariously the silly gentiles who were convinced they were worshiping the same yet some how different god.

>>131245205
If you're in denial you'd never see the truth. So either you or I are in denial. I'm pretty comfortable and you're the one that seems to be concerned therefore I can conclude you must be in denial.

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>>131245011
I get that, I am trying to see how Protestants would cope with the whole notion of judgement in the Bible and some verses implying some sort of merit for works and then believing in faith alone.

You might want to check this out if you have the time,

http://fuller.academia.edu/DavidDowns

Recall the words of Jesus. "Why do you call me good? only god is good."

You aren't even good monotheists.

>>131245307
Denial of what?

>>131238359
It must be sad to be this fucking delusional every goddamn they. Its ok though, youll die eventualy and relaize nothing will happen. I dont need to argue with christ cucks, time will argue for me.

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>>131244898
no purgatory in bible

means you lose out on rewards

-_______-

>>131245011
guy is not a saved man hes trying to work to go to heaven

The True Meaning Of James 2 - ''Faith Without Works Is Dead'' - Baptist Sermon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3QCpp2J5M0

>>131245011

Loved this video. Thanks for sharing!

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>>131245445
But he is still saved. Plus the fire imagery clearly invokes some sort of purifying punishment or purgatory state.

>>131245401
Denial that you're a flesh and blood creature and that only the laws that effect the flesh and blood effect you.

Its the truth you know, there is no spiritual guard to the actions you take, only nature and nature makes all the rules.

>>131245591
Man has a spirit.

>>131242076
>21Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: 22But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

>>131245673
define it, explain it, show me where it is.

>>131245816
self reflect

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>>131245747
This was what I was talking about.

>>131245884
What a lazy way to tell a person to define what they already have.

>>131244414
you wont be a high rank in Heaven and new earth. at least you wont be burning and you cant be sad

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>>131246091
Does Scripture imply or say that this is what happens?

>>131245816
A part of man's being that gives us a connection to the metaphysical/otherworldly. With the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit man's spirit is sanctified and protected by the grace of God by the unsanctified. Given that it's metaphysical it has no physical location on man's being.

That is as far as I feel comfortable commenting on the matter.

>>131246186
from the unsanctified*

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>>131238930

Nope.

>>131245330
This is bait, but just in case, it went completely over your head.

>>131246063
Glad to know you have spirit

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>>131245816

Spirit is our center point, our essence, our private subjectivity aka awareness, which is ultimately immaterial and the foundation of our will.

A human being indicates the presence of a spirit since spirit is the breath that animates human life, although the exact center-point can not be measured or seen visibly.

What does /Christ/ think of Michael Heiser?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRNaCK_-njI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6l4WWFIKow

>>131246186
I feel none of this, so I'm either a man with no spirit or the first animal human.

I feel only hate for my fellow man if they're weaker than me I'll take advantage over them and feel no shame or worry. That is natural.

If your God wants to stop me in the after life, fine that's like finding a raccoon in the trashcan after he's had his fill. If I care so little about this life what makes you think I care about the next one?

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>>131245591
>only nature and nature makes all the rules.
> Nature randomly has rules

>>131246514
>If I care so little about this life what makes you think I care about the next one?
Interesting

Something you want to confide in us?

>>131246011

Because chrisians do not get judged by the law or works but by faith they skip the judgement because they re saved through christ .

>>131246514
>If I care so little about this life what makes you think I care about the next one?

Never was it implied I did. Our Lord gave you the ability to make a choice, and you are doing exactly that. I'll pray for you.

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>>131246657
Ok can you back that up with Scripture?

>>131246737
16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

>>131245591

nature is more like our sister, not our mother, she obeys the will of God for only God has a will and an intelligence capable of designing order, complexity and harmony.
There are no 'laws of nature' without a prime law giver.

>>131247183
So where is the part where it says believers who bear no fruit will still be saved? All I am getting here is God loves the world so he sent his only Son so that it will not die and those who believe in him would be saved, though of course that same Gospel did say that you have to eat the flesh and drink the blood of Christ....

>>131246176
says

i dont know the verse but it said the good and bad will be judged on the great white judgement

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Amen brothers and sisters, have you prayed today?

Also, give me help with epic catholic songs
Songs I can listen to when I train for the upcoming crusade

I listed some and hope you can add more:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkZkekS8NQU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FdnA4SyYzE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U9lVjZg-Kg

This one isn't exactly religious, but since the conquerors were deeply catholics and represented our Church in the new world, I find them worthy of being in the list with this legendary song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYeDsa4Tw0c

Is Christianity compatible with Deus Vult or it's just a Catholicuck shit?

>>131247250
In my perspective nature is the mother since SHE gives life to use and provides for us. But there will be a time when we leave our mother like all men do.

Yes God created Nature, I do not deny that what I express is that nature then is the lesson we should learn from since it rules our lives. If God is a creator then man is more like Gods brother a creator in a different realm.

>>131246655
>>131246683
There is nothing to confide, I have the ability ordained to me through nature to shape this world how I see fit.

If I decide mankind needs to be culled and removed I'll move down a path that gives me the control to do that.

>>131246737

it is kinda tricky but there are 2 resurrections , the first one is by faith

>4And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

>And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.


>…2Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? 3Do you not know that we will judge angels?

and then we have the final judgment the one by works

>11And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

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>>131238359
Step 1: Realize Christianity is a Jewish means of control
Step 2: Realize the christcuck threads on /pol/ are created by shills
Step 3: Realize "gods word" is the hearsay of man and nothing but conjecture
Step 4: Be spritual, not religious. Focus on self betterment and self meditation. The spirit in the sky is bullshit and is not going to help you.

Spiritual: Being open minded about our consciousness and its connection to the wider universe; are we insignificant or just the universe experiencing itself. Do we really die? Are we really alive?

Religion: Believing a book written by a couple of lunatics 2 thousand years ago about the adventures of a schizophrenic and his stories of an invisible sky wizard who created everything

Spiritual: Being a human, wondering, building, dreaming

Religion: Cancer, war, money, mind control, pedophilia, death

Christianity is a jewish scourge upon the western world, and the root of hyper-empathetic liberal ideology. It glorifies weakness and submission while vilifying strength and self determination.

Christians have been duped by the unholiest hoax in all history, by so-called Jews. This is considered their most effective weapon.

This 'big lie' technique is brainwashing United States Christians into believing that Jesus Christ was "King of the Jews", in the sense that so-called 'Jews' today call themselves 'Jews'. This reference was first made in English translations of the Old and New Testaments, centuries before the so-called Jews highjacked the word 'Jew' in the 18th century A.D. to palm themselves off on the Christian world as having a kinship with Jesus Christ. This alleged kinship comes from the myth of their common ancestry with the so-called 'Jews' of the Holy Land in the Old Testament history, a fiction based on fable

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>>131245747
>>131246011
i wont expect a catholic to understand this but there you go

https://faithalone.org/magazine/y1997/97E2.html

>>131247362
Romans 4:4-5
Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

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>>131247463
That doesn't mean that failing to pass the judgement eventhough you believe would get you into heaven

>>131247491
Catholicism is the true and only christianity

Protestantism was born from the divide and conquer (((tactics)))

Jesus Christ, the Son of God, created one and only one Church, and it is the catholic one

>>131247511
>If I decide mankind needs to be culled and removed I'll move down a path that gives me the control to do that.

What is your point?

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I am here to shitpost, christcucks. Come at me.

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>>131245142

Good news is you will get your "divine show" when the false prophet performs his miracles that will deceive the world into worshiping the Antichrist. Bad news is, that isn't good news. See: Revelation 13

Believe on Christ and be saved,

>>131247624
Man is the son of God a creator and shaper in the universe. My point is God doesn't make this world, nature does. I am a product of nature I decide the future not God.

>>131247587
Anyone written in The Lamb's Book of Life gets saved

1 John 5
4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
Revelation 21:7
He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

Revelation 3:5
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
1 John 3
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Romans 4
7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

>>131238359

Come home white Adamic man!

You are a special people created by God.

You are the true Israelites of the bible, not the Jews.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq_Q3fSs5mk

>>131247511
>ordained to me through nature to shape this world how I see fit.
but you don't like this world. You don't like the capacity to shape the world as you see fit?

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>>131247522
Well, where is the part where faithful gets to bypass all of that?

>>131247558
There are elements of redemptive and meritous almsgiving in Paul so..........

Plus, there is zero indication that Jesus was talking about the millenium or some rapture shit there

>>131247743
How do you know if you REALLY believeth Jesus is the son of God? What if you're believing but not hard enough and then you miss the rapture and are doomed for eternity?

>>131247764
I'm content with my little patch of life, but if I have to think about the greater grander world I absolutely hate what you people have decided to do.

>>131247764
What if God wants the world shaped one way, but I want it another? Who wins?

>>131247602
What about orthodoxy

>>131247743
What do you make of this?

http://www.academia.edu/9407721/_Love_Covers_a_Multitude_of_Sins_Redemptive_Almsgiving_in_1_Peter_4_8_and_its_Early_Christian_Reception

http://www.academia.edu/7541118/Justification_Good_Works_and_Creation_in_Clement_of_Romes_Appropriation_of_Romans_5_6

>>131246514
You have to admit that there are people who have better perception than you. Maybe even you have better perception than others as well, like maybe you can see a duck fixing to take wing before most other hunters, but there are also people who can perceive things that you can't. Like a hunter that shot a deer that you never even saw, the deer was still there, you just missed it. This is like your spirit. You can't see it, but others can, and your rebellion against the one who gave you that spirit is not doing you any good.

>>131247842
What have us people decided to do?

>>131247834

The rapture is a 19th century invention. No Catholics or Orthodox believe it. None of the historic Protestants believe it (Presbyterian, Lutheran, etc). Only the most anti-intellectual of fundamentalists believe in that.

>>131247707
Nature is a by-product of creation, all that is created has a nature to it. Our Father is the creator of all things. We are subject to nature, and nature to Our Father, as nature is a by-product of creation, and Our Father is the creator of all things.

Our Father gave the ability of free-choice to man. You are free to make whatever choice it is, but just as a person makes a decision and reaps the consequence of said decision (e.x. falling short of a jump and taking physical injury), so too will man reap the consequence of his decisions in this life when he is brought to his final judgement before Our Lord.

Nature stands with Christianity and creationism, not with self-defined notions.

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>>131247555
>Be spritual, not religious

This meme has to die. Just embrace you fedora and stop being a poseur. I know you can't handle the logical conclusions atheism/naturalism posits about humanity but commit to there being a something more than the physicalism or get off the pot you kike.

>>131247975
If there's no rapture, why should I believe in Jesus?

>>131247896
What is your understanding of God's nature/character?

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>>131248074
Fuck you not all religions tell you what you have to eat for breakfast and how to live your life; that's only because (((they))) want to control you dumb fucks and like true cucks you fucking believed their meme about a dead kike on a stick and now your daughter kisses nigger cock and turns her other ass cheek.

>>131247362
Believers will bear fruit. How can you not bear fruit if you have faith in Jesus as your LORD? It's just not the fruit that is going to get them to heaven. It's faith in Jesus that gets you there.

>>131247791
>Well, where is the part where faithful gets to bypass all of that?

It is not really a clear cut but there is no judgement for christians , how could there be judgment if paul claims we will be ever with the lord right after the second comming , jesus promises the thief paradise , how can he do that if the thief still need to be judged

>13But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

>>131241089
Here I was thinking that repentance was about avoiding eternal damnation -- guess it's more so about feeling good about yourself for wishing the best for some rotten piece of shit who will probably go to Hell also.

If your'e not a hellfire preacher, you're probably going to the fire. Jesus talks about Hell way more than he talks about love.

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>>131247791
>elements of redemptive and meritous almsgiving in Paul so

nope
god wants you to have good works and promotes it a lot

but it doesnt get you saved

>Plus, there is zero indication that Jesus was talking about the millenium or some rapture shit there

all of matthew is like this its like a gospel for the jews and lots of futuristic stuff

if you want a book that is written for gentiles christians during the church age its the book of John, you can not get anything wrong

says believe,believe, believe, all you have to do is believe 100 times

>>131248109

You really need to learn basic Christianity 101 if you're asking questions like that.

I'd recommend gotquestions.org to learn the basics of the faith.

>>131247965
This is a nice idea, however our country was founded in rebellion. Therefore your point is mute.

>>131247974
Not everyone, but in general people annoy me. There are too many of them are most of them do nothing valuable and I think the planet would be in better shape with less of them. I feel no kinship with them they're just objects like any other object in this world. Obstacles to overcome or crush while forging my path towards contentment.

>>131248128
Dharma, the natural path of the universe, exists as the duality of the material (atoms) and the immaterial (the soul's "view" of those atoms). Karma, the "dirt" of a soul, accumulates on both the material and immaterial because of the inability, due to lack of perfect consciousness, of the individual soul to perceive the full splendor of dharma. Individuals who are absolved of karma are able to perceive dharma, the will of the universe, and are charged with protecting and guiding other souls into the splendor of dharma. Individuals free of karma naturally understand how to manifest dharma in the physical world, by producing more, healthier, tastier food, by creating medicines, songs, and books for others to study, and by protecting the weak from those without dharma.

>>131248512

But you're already contended. You said so yourself.

>>131248434
Not clicking a link to proselytize myself; you're gonna have to work harder than that.

>>131248324
He isn't saying that Christians bypass judgement here, it's more about not to worry about the dead departed Christians. Secondly he also warns that God will reckon men according to their actions in Romans and it is clear he is addressing Christians who are in error. So it is evident enough that whatever is said here does not say Christians bypass the great judgement

>>131248626
There is no stasis in reality all things flow. Therefore my state of contentment changes from day to day based upon the information that is barraged upon my psyche.

>>131248750
so you're not contented?

>>131248681

Clearly you don't care then.

>>131248852
>Dharma, the natural path of the universe, exists as the duality of the material (atoms) and the immaterial (the soul's "view" of those atoms). Karma, the "dirt" of a soul, accumulates on both the material and immaterial because of the inability, due to lack of perfect consciousness, of the individual soul to perceive the full splendor of dharma. Individuals who are absolved of karma are able to perceive dharma, the will of the universe, and are charged with protecting and guiding other souls into the splendor of dharma. Individuals free of karma naturally understand how to manifest dharma in the physical world, by producing more, healthier, tastier food, by creating medicines, songs, and books for others to study, and by protecting the weak from those without dharma.
Tell me what's wrong with it

>>131248402
>doesn't get you saved
Actually yes in a sense since they factor into salvation, unless you want to sin boldly then be my guest.

Saying Matthew has a lot of futuristic stuff doesn't detract from my point. Where is the shit about the millenium in that verse?

John asks you to eat the flesh and drink the blood of Christ and also makes numerous comments on the role of works

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>>131247602

>>131247975
Your fucking retarded. The rapture is real but it isnt pre-trib like a lot think it is

>>131248324
Don't forget what comes near this,

>4 Furthermore then we beseech you, brethren, and exhort you by the Lord Jesus, that as ye have received of us how ye ought to walk and to please God, so ye would abound more and more. 2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus. 3 For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication: 4 that every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour; 5 not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God: 6 that no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified. 7 For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness. 8 He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit.

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>>131247555

>falling for the post-modern and fully kosher "do it yourself spirituality"

>joins a thread to shitpost
>gets no replies
>autistically responds to people pushing viewpoints till someone responds so that you can autistically rant about them
Why not go make a hindu general?

>>131249036
Because i would get no replies :( I just want the (you)s man, I'm a drug addict.

>>131248741

At this point, we are after the 1000 year reign of Christ and the saints (see: the saved). There is no mention of what happens to the saved at the Great White Throne because they are not there.

It only talks about the dead being resurrected being judged by their works. And because works don't save you, the passage goes on to say that they are all thrown into Hell.

>>131238622
>Stop shoving religion in everyone's trought

Clean your act up and thank God for allowing you to exist.

>>131249148
But in your own thread every reply to OP gives you a (you) my man.

Also, why is everything that man does/makes/attempts naturally corruptible?

>>131249190
>implying you must follow all this religious bullshit in order to believe in god

>>131248846
It all depends! Somedays I wake-up and I'm not content I think "Wow there are way too many niggers around somebody should do something about this." other days I think "Well today wasn't so bad the universe seemed to dainty give me a back rub."


I'm by no means a good hearted person.

>>131249156
Judgement is at the Great White Throne. What are you talking about?

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Galatians
2:16/21
16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

3:6-11
6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.
7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.
10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

5:4-5
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.

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>>131248914
its not factored in at all whether youre saved or not. its only factored in to determine your rewards

>8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9Not of works, lest any man should boast.

https://www.openbible.info/topics/justification_by_faith_alone

>>131248968

You're being ironic, right?

>>131249156
Actually this is what Paul says right after chapter 4,

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Thessalonians+5&version=AKJV

Again, nothing implying that Christians are not judged by works, its main point is to stay awake and to edify one another in faith. But there is nothing that indicates no judgement according to works. In fact reading chapters 4 and 5 clearly shows that this faith is one which is also lived and requires effort.

>>131249239
Some threads die without a single (you). According to us, not everything is naturally corruptible; in fact, its the opposite. Supposing corruption is the opposite of dharma (meaning it's not the way of the universe), then things that become corrupted will slowly and naturally unravel and return to their dharmic state. If said corruption is not in opposition to dharma, then it's not a corruption but an evolution. What determines whether something is dharmic? The collective consciousness, both over space and time - e.g. Hitler was "dharma" to Nazi Germany but "adharma" to Jews, you won't know which is true until you either reach enlightenment or die, but if you die you'll probably forget again.

>>131249318
somebody should do something about this.
Mirror is right over there.

>I'm by no means a good hearted person.
Change the world. Start with you. I'm cheering for you.

>>131248741
>He isn't saying that Christians bypass judgement here.

No i never claim that , i did claim that they go from the second comming right into to be forever with jesus ,no judgment scene like revelations , just go up in the air and be with the lord forever

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>>131238359
Did you say Chris Chan?

>>131249535
Actually no. In fact when judgement is mentioned, none of what you said could even be deduced from your statement. Saying that one is saved by faith through grace doesn't help your point either as we see how this works out in having to trust in God even in danger or seemingly impossible situations as Paul shows with Abraham and Paul's warnings against lapsing into sin even when you are called and saved by God to Salvation.

>>131249239
Also I told you; I come to christcuck general; I literally put my entire religious view on the table waiting for anon to tear it apart and convert me to the one true lord and saviour; I get zero responses, not even a fucking "poo in loo".

>>131249607
Hahaha I have no good intentions for changing this world. If I was going to use my full potential for anything it would be to kill millions or to amuse myself.

>>131238359
I turned from sin, i stopped stealing, I stopped fornicating. Im a little bit c!oser to Christ. I wish everyone the best especially atheists and satanists, Christ is with you too, even while you're shilling. Forgive yourself and come into the circle. Turn away from sin, give it a chance.

Captcha " deviller drive"

Drive that devil out

>>131249651
>they go from the second comming right into to be forever with jesus ,no judgment scene like revelations , just go up in the air and be with the lord forever
Uhh...that is bypassing judgement right there in Paul according to you. Did the Bible now contradict itself? Because even when we look at the context of it all, the implication is that there is no excuse to fall into sin eventhough you are saved and doing so is dangerous and to focus on "staying awake".

>>131249788
Sorry anon, most folks come to these seeking answers and few are well informed/studied enough to give any advice(have to catch them at a good time) while the rest of it is people responding to shitposters. I don't know what to tell you nor do I honestly know enough to engage in debate.

>>131249607
>>131248128
Do all christcucks ask questions and then ignore the answer? Fuck your religion and fuck you. Can't wait til you get genocided by Mohammed.

>>131249902
That's why I shitpost. Only way to get any attention, at all.

>>131249938
Wew, someone is getting extremely hateful. I assume that's an attempt at garnering (you)s. Have a sympathy one.

>>131249991
My hate knows no bounds. Literally about to turn this into nigger hate general.

>>131249790
What's holding you back, mate? Only you can do you.

>>131250054
hate is a great fuel, burn it into something productive son of man.

>>131249574

The only time Christians are judged for their works is to determine their rewards in Heaven, not heir eternal destiny (Heaven vs Hell).

Specifically, the saved are judged at the Judgement Seat of Christ (see: 2 Corinthians 3) and the unsaved are judged at the Great White Throne.

There is no mention of Christians/saved/saints at the Great White Throne.

>>131249938
I'm sorry for taking you seriously, anon.

>>131250064
>says he's a good christian
>encourages murdering millions on a whim
That's all I need from you, false prophet.
>>131249991 << This guy was cool.
Rest of you christcucks can fuck right off to getting anally raped by ahmed and his 12 brothers as you stare into the barrel of extinction.

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>>131250110
Well, prove me wrong because it seems that wherever I look, the Bible is telling me something else besides Sola Fide

>16 Rejoice evermore. 17 Pray without ceasing. 18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you. 19 Quench not the Spirit. 20 Despise not prophesyings. 21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

>>131250064
I'll put it this way, I'm content. Life and God are good to me, in particular, whether I'm an asshole or not. So I see it kind of silly to be anything other than natural. I think we as humans would be in a better place if other men saw themselves as just human animals and took back control over this shit we all a society.

>>131250087
I'ma build it into a big pyre of niggers and christians if that's cool with you.

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>>131249737
ur taking any little thing and saying WELP THAT MEANS WE NEED WORKS

when it never says that

ur not supposed to live a sinful life and god wants you to have good works... but u dont go to hell for sinning thats determined by whether you believe in jesus
-___-

>>131250205
Wait. Do 'niggers' act like animals?

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>>131238359

>>131250218
I'll be right there with you brother haha! Only strength rules this world.

>>131250233
Well, actually it does. Otherwise the Bible wouldn't bother telling you or warning you about it

>John 5:28-29. "28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the
which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice. 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation."
Does Jesus say, those who believed go unto the resurrection of life, or those who have done good, go to the resurrection of life? He said those who have done good.

>>131250164
I'm sorry for fucking expecting a god-fearing christian to actually entertain a fucking question about his piece of shit religion in the goddamn christian general thread but I guess you already have to be christian to understand it so you guys can fuck right off I regret voting for trump I should have voted for hillary so she could string up more christian kids in her satan rituals.

>>131250264
niggers destroy for the sake of destroying their thoughts lack complexity and have no desire for creation of a greater life.

I have all of those things, so I'm no nigger.

>>131250185
Oh I nearly forgot, here's Revelation,

>Rev. 22-11-14. "11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. 12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city."
>every man

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I just returned from morning mass and came to this thread to wish you all happy sunday anons.
May God bring happiness and relaxation to all of you.

>>131250185

If you happen to be the "PRODDIE BTFO" Brit poster ever present in these threads, there is nothing I can say to convince you.

Your faith in the church fathers is much greater than your faith in the Bible. Thus, I can't use the Bible to convince you of anything.

>>131238930
I follow and believe in Christ but that could be just some guys burial cloth. Like it's "real" but who knows who that guy is.

Personally, I want the crown of Lombardy in my personal possession.

>>131250336
idk what you are doing in a christian thread, you are dehumanising black people by calling them niggers and trying to set yourself above them by comparing yourself to them favourably

>>131238359
is this /8church/?

>>131250279
I like how the other guy I identify with in this thread is also a Dixiecrat, by which I mean he wants to hang niggers. I'm from Texas, and this state is too fucking big to let some asshat high in the sky decide how to do shit. Fuck, that's probably why we got a nigger problem now. Shoulda just "freed" 'em with a bullet.

>>131250264
Yeah, almost as much as christcucks.

>>131250458
>Personally, I want the crown of Lombardy in my personal possession.
sounds like idolatry to me

>>131250428
But I had quoted only Scripture and scholarship around it. Do you think I am that stupid?

I only did that because I am sick of the rancid stupidity that comes up ITT

>>131250409

Yes. The saved will be rewarded in Heaven according to their works. The unsaved will be rewarded in Hell for theirs.

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>>131250460
If the christ god says niggers are equal, then I quit being a fucking christian. Niggers are filthy animals and if you don't pay heed you'll get raped.

>>131250428

He is right, though. The Bible never teaches sola fide. Read in the context of the entire New Testament, the overwhelming weight is on salvation by faith which is always and necessarily accompanied by works (the Catholic position).

>>131250460
If you try and understand Gods plan you'll drive yourself insane, I'm where I want to be and that's all that matters... at least to me anyways.

>>131250483
I agree nature is a blood sport let the strongest and the fittest decide who rules this planet, I'm ready to get in a pick-up and hang niggers.

>>131238359
Hey guys, im confused about something: Why did God need to rest on the seventh day?

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>>131250568
The saved can have a grand ol' nigger.

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>>131250305
the ones who have done good are the ones who believed in him

John 6:28-29
Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

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>>131250605
Cause he was a fucking nigger and they're lazy as fuck.

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>>131250634
Have a nigger with your psalm!

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>>131250648
I didn't know you could dress a chimp up like that, well played, anon.

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>>131250568
Aren't you forgetting about all the niggers in heaven? You call that "saved"?

>>131250336
>I have all of those things, so I'm no nigger.

I dunno, anon. You sounded pretty cool with the idea of destroying millions for your personal amusement. That sounds awfully similar to want destruction for destruction's sake.

Can you explain the difference for me?

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>>131250568
Actually it says God will judge each and every man. So if I were you, I better start living my faith and walk in obedience.

>>131250592
And the funny thing is that none of you Catholics bother to do any reading of your own on the topic which makes all your replies weak. The only Catholic that actually answers Protestant objections properly and satisfactorily is Wolfshiem. Everyone else just sucks.

>>131250634
Oh, so now my beliefs is also integrated into my deeds and action? Paul also said that the will of God is to avoid evil so....

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>>131250595
fucking oath lad, it has always been an interest of mine (hanging people)

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>>131250789
Does God still judge NIGGERS even though they're monkeys?

>>131250789

I've read several books on soteriology, both Catholic and Protestant.

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>>131250848
That's why Paul said KILL NIGGERS.

>>131243826
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>>131243442

What causes a person to be like this?

>>131250305
>Does Jesus say, those who believed go unto the resurrection of life, or those who have done good, go to the resurrection of life? He said those who have done good.


If you have faith it also means you are good and you done good works , how is this concept so hard to grasp ? faith in jesus is a package deal and if you get the package wrong then you probably never had faith to begin with

>21Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’…

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>>131250848
>Paul also said that the will of God is to avoid evil so....

Jesus defines the will of the father

John 6:40
And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

>>131250925
oxygen depravity

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>>131250925
Prolonged exposure to NIGGERS. It'll happen to you but that anon took the hit like a real man and not a fucking nazi fag larper. Pro-tip - NAZIS ARENT CHRISTIAN.

>>131250933
>and you done good works
Romans 4:5
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

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>>131250872
>niggers
>monkeys
Oh my, I am sorry to tell you but if you believe in Christ and take his word seriously, you cannot believe blacks are irrational animals

>>131250772
Of course, you see niggers will rob you if they can because you're white.

I won't rob you because I have more to gain from this world than committing one act of small crime.

I want millions to suffer for their sins, that I decided were sins in the first place with my own mind. Maybe I'll write it down in a book and 3,000 years from now humans will regard me as a messiah.

>>131250205
Animals are pretty abhorrent. Male ducks will copulate with dead female ducks, black widow female spiders eat their mates, and as many of their offspring as they can catch. There are homo penguins, cats that torture their prey fo amusement, and badgers that go for the testicles. Some dogs will eat their own shit. Older animals often get pushed out of the herd or pack to get torn apart by rivals as a retirement plan. You want to live like this? It is self evident that man is set above beasts. Live like a man.

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>>131250956
Cause niggers have such fucking huge noses they suck all the oxygen out of the room.

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>>131251004
Jesus was a NIGGER like i'd fucking believe he could even speak. Muhfugga mup da doop I wuz godz n shiieeet

>>131248214
You don't know anything about Christ or The Bible.

You've ironically let (((them))) persuade you into thinking Jesus is something other than what He is.

Jesus is basically the worst enemy of (((them))) there is.

>>131250789

We both agree that all men will be judged by God. Our disagreement concerns faith alone vs faith + works, not the scope of judgement.

>>131250956
Depravity is different than deprivation, ironically it still works given what thread this is.

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>>131251034
Then the rapture already happened cause every real man died and all we've got left are niggers and niggerlovers like you.

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>>131251135
Bullshit. Christians are Jews are Mudshits; you share the same books, you are the same people, by which i mean NIGGERS.

>>131251002
James 2
>14What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? 15If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? 17Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

>17Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

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>>131251138
There is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his messenger, now sell me your 9 year old I need a wife. It's cool though I accepted Christ as a prophet of (((God))).

>>131250901
Maybe it is time you show it

>>131250933
>faith
>have faith and you do good
So my actions do matter, then you can't exactly say sola fide, unless that means faith is what drives my actions and works, then sure. The problem of course that is so vague that it doesn't contradict what Catholicism believes on the issue.

>>131250941
Well, so did Paul>>131250185

And don't forget how he describes Abraham's faith,

19 And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own body now dead, when he was about an hundred years old, neither yet the deadness of Sara’s womb: 20 he staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God; 21 and being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform. 22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness. 23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him; 24 but for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; 25 who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

>>131251034
We live like that regardless if you think we do or not.

I advocate reason, if you have a reasonable way of living. Express it I can be persuaded with logic like any persuadable intelligent person.

Now I won't say however that I'm a reasonable person I don't think anyone is truly a reasonable person. I think I'm as likely to throw reason out the window as anyone else for my own personal comfort.

So what are we left with? An asshole who lives for his own amusement where ever that may take him. Sounds like most life to me.

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>>131251313
Have a (you)!

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>>131251138
If all men will be judged by God, then their actions matter and if their actions matter then it means whatever you do would in fact matter in salvation.

>>131251006
So the difference is a matter of scale?

>>131251417
All differences are a matter of scale.

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>>131251323
The god of Abraham is a false god.

>>131251443
So you're the biggest nigger, or am I misunderstanding?

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>>131251417
Turn your other cheek for the NIGGER DICK.

>>131251323

I think it's dumb when people argue about this stuff on 4chan. It's a serious subject that deserves close attention and lengthy exegesis.

For anyone interested:
For the Catholic position I recommend Sungenis' book, or, at a more popular level, Jimmy Akin's.

For the Protestant view, I'd recommend Schreiner's book or James White's.

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>>131251451
Well, guess it's time to fap

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>>131251323
m8 paul giving guidance to abstain from evil has nothing to do with whether or not youre saved

>but for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

ur verse proves me right lel


>>131251313
nothing to do with salvation people with dead faith still go to heaven

The True Meaning Of James 2 - ''Faith Without Works Is Dead'' - Baptist Sermon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3QCpp2J5M0

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>>131251498
Look at this fucking christcuck thinking he's all high and mighty on his fucking christ worship; yet he still turns to responding by calling people a nigger when you put the screws to him. You're a fucking joke pal, have a nice (you) since you couldn't even last a whole christcuck general without hating.

Christ doesn't believe in multiculturalism. He wanted His followers to spread the message of Christ. He would obviously reject Islam, and he would not be ok with allowing Islamic immigrants to enter into His city.

The Bible also warns you to not mix with other degenerate people, because their degenerate ways will be adopted by you, and you too will become degenerate.

There is nothing about accepting nigger thugs that go gang banging and selling drugs to children.

There is nothing about accepting other people's customs or accepting other people's religions. The Bible is firmly against these things and warns of it.

The bubbly Christ figure that is accepting of all things is literally (((their))) trick. Next they'll say Christ is ok with satanism.

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>>131251587
Here. We. Go!

NEW THREAD
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NEW THREAD

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>>131251573
>meme apologists
I don't know about Schreiner but at least read McGarth for starters eventhough he is Reformed, his book Iustifica Dei is highly informative

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>>131251664
Wrong again pal! Christ said NOTHING about the muzzies cause they weren't there, and he was such a colossal faggot and cuck he probably would have let mohammed rape him too, because mohammed was gay.

>>131251498
Misunderstanding would be your game obviously since you're not very bright clearly.

>>131251614
It doesn't? He just said that it is the will of God and spends a lot in that and the previous chapter of Thessalonians saying that being saved doesn't excuse me lapsing into sin. I don't know about you but when I get descriptions like that, it is pretty evident that Paul does have room for works in Salvation, just not of the legalist kind.

And secondly, look at Abraham's justification, it is consistent faith in God even when shit goes wrong. That doesn't fit the whole one time salvation event motif.

>>131251407

Wrong. The works of the saved determine rewards in Heaven. These rewards are determined at the -judgement- at the Judgement Throne of Christ.

The works of the unsaved determine their rewards in Hell (see: burning torment for all eternity). This is determined at the -judgement-
at the Great White Throne.

One's eternal destiny is determined while you are still alive, not at the judgements. The judgements are to determine rewards for works (for the saved and lost).

> John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.