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Smoking Gun proves wiretapping claim!

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Leaked GCHQ memo proves Obama surveilled Trump Tower!
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Why the hell would someone print this out? Don't they know that's how Reality Winner was caught??
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>>130966071
Bump
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>>130966071
Sauce?
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fake and gay let's all get some sleep
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Fake and gay
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>>130966071
What the fuck is this

What the fuck is Project FULSOME
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>>130967560
>>130967560
SERIOUS: WHAT DOES BUMP MEAN IN A THREAD
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>>130968263
It means those anons have hardons
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>>130968263
It means kill yourself, newfag.
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ELSAGATE
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>>130966071

OSHIT
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>>130966071
Fucking source this, faggot larper.
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>>130966071
Yaawwwwwwnnnn I don't know about you but I am tired, we shouldn't let fake news keep us up, let's all take a nice long nap
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Is this straight from a leaker? Is OP the leaker?
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Big if true.
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>>130966071
sauce me
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>>130966071
>reverse image search has nothing
either verify this shit now or invent a very creative ruse story for us
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>>130966071
While this shows Obama did wiretap Trump, I have to ask where this came from.
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>>130969043
Legendary if true
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>>130968263
It means you need to go bump your head on the pavement newfag
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>>130968263

Fucking normie.
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>>130968263
>not lurking enough to figure basic shit out
you have to leave newfag
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>>130966071
Pretty hillarious if true, just like dems, always one finger pointing forward and four pointing back.
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posting in above average bread
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>>130968263
GET
>>>/out/
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bamp
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>>130966071
Well it sure looks like a document that was scanned. Does anyone know if that's what the guy's real signature and the calssified letterhead looks like?
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>>130966071
Wow its fuckingg nothing. Idiot drumpfhumpers
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>>130966071
OP writes like Cernovich, exclaim points and all
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It's real. The spooks already silenced archive bot here
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Not sure, but this might be real. This is exactly what Judge Nap said happened when he was suspended from Fox. He even doubled down on the "debunked" claim when he returned to Fox.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2017/03/29/suspended-fox-news-expert-returns-and-doubles-down-on-baseless-wiretapping-claims/?utm_term=.468438503cd2
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>>130970028
What if we archive it https://archive.is/AwThY
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>>130970028
Based Judge nap vindicated!
Judge nap for Scotus!
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>>130966071
Point 3. is where you fucked up big time.

Good larp, but fake and gay.

And why didn't you include courts and judges? The way you seem to indicate the path a warrent goes is just weird.
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Sadly the UK does not use TS as a clearance and the postal address is redundant, as these things are not delivered through a civilian postal system.

Good effort, though.
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>>130970071
Norway bot is here too. HAHAHA
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>>130966071
>Agent Michael Steele

Is this reality?
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>>130968263
BUMP
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>>130966071
this is why shills are pushing so hard to bump fake news as "happenings" like in >>130951159
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>>130970081
Never doubt that man

https://youtu.be/fjcoeiMlGOI

What if our belief in self-government is a belief in a myth? What if the election of one political party over the other to control Congress changes only appearances? What if taxes stay high and regulations stay pervasive and the government stays oppressive and presidents fight wars no matter what the politicians promise and no matter who wins elections? What if the true goal of those whom we elect to Congress is not to be our agents of self-government or even to preserve our personal liberties but to remain in power by getting re-elected?

What if they use government to aid their own re-elections by bribing us with our own money -- the rich with bailouts, the middle class with tax breaks and the poor with transfer payments?

What if Congress has written laws that are too complex for its own members to read and understand? What if the language of most federal laws is intentionally arcane so that ordinary voters cannot understand it? What if that language is actually written by faceless bureaucrats and not by accountable members of Congress? What if members of Congress in fact rarely read any legislation before voting on it? What if some legislation refers to secrets and secret procedures that only a few members of Congress are permitted to see and utilize?

What if when the select few members of Congress who are permitted to see those secrets do see them, those members are themselves sworn to secrecy? What if that means that our elected representatives -- our supposed agents of self-government in the government -- do not fully know what the government is doing and that even if they do, they can’t legally tell us?
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>>130970481

What if the laws that Congress has written about the CIA have delegated congressional power to a small secret committee of members from both houses of Congress and both political parties? What if that committee can authorize secret wars in foreign lands conducted not by the military but by the CIA? What if the reason these folks authorize the CIA and not the military to conduct secret wars is the existence of federal laws that require reporting to and a vote of the entire Congress for the military to be used but require only the small secret committee to approve for the CIA to be used?

Because wars cost money and often cost lives, what if the effect of the decisions of the small secret committee is that the committee is basically a Congress within Congress? What if the Constitution says that only Congress can spend tax dollars and declare wars but Congress has let the Congress within Congress do this? What if the voters will never know what the Congress within Congress has authorized? What if the very existence of the Congress within Congress mocks, defies and betrays the concept of American self-government?

What if the data seen and discussed and the decisions made in secret by the Congress within Congress are generated by the CIA and other intelligence agencies? What if these intelligence agencies selectively reveal and selectively conceal data to manipulate the decisions of the Congress within Congress? What if those manipulations often result in bloodshed about which the American people often never learn? What if the bases for the decisions of the Congress within Congress are kept from the other members of Congress, from the media and from the voters?
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>>130970388
This isn't real. That doesn't mean it hasn't happened, but that's fabricated.
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>>130970551

What if all this diversion of power from the elected Congress to the Congress within Congress and all this reliance on secret data has resulted in the most pervasive surveillance by any government of any people at any time in world history? What if the federal government’s domestic surveillance today captures and retains digital copies of every telephone call and every computer keystroke of every person in America and has done so since 2005? What if members of Congress who are not in the Congress within Congress do not know this?

What if the Congress within Congress has authorized American spies to spy without personal suspicion or judicial warrant on the military, the courts, the police and every person in America, including the remaining members of Congress, much of the remaining intelligence community itself and even the White House?

What if the selective use of the data acquired from mass surveillance can be used to manipulate anyone by those who have access to the data? What if those who have access to the data have used it to manipulate the president of the United States? What if all this constitutes a grave but largely unseen threat to our liberties, not the least of which is the right to self-government?

What if we don’t really govern ourselves? What do we do about it?
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>>130970245
>Is this reality?

Winner motherfucker!
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>>130970481
BASED
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>US intelligence is potentially compromised by the incoming Trump administration
What did he mean by this?
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>>130968263
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>>130970744
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>>130970744
It means that OP didn't do his research.
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>>130970103
You think the warrant process/legal system is the same in the U.K. as it is in the U.S.?
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>>130970671
Might be the ballsiest five minutes in the history of broadcasting.
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how does this support his case?

>foreign intelligence have enough evidence trump is in collusion with russian state actors
>treason at best
>show evidence to judge to get the go ahead
>green light

so, they had enough evidence of treason to show a judge and get more evidence. WE WIN! THIS IS WINNING!!!! jesus fuck i gotta get out of this country.
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>>130968263
Seriously though, get out while you still can.
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>>130970933
Asking again

What is Project FULSOME
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>>130970200
>Sadly the UK does not use TS as a clearance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classified_information_in_the_United_Kingdom
Liar.
>the postal address is redundant
https://www.gchq.gov uk/sites/default/files/document_files/20170123-Final-Ext-Ltr-frm-Dir-to-FS-re-standing-down-safe.pdf
Liar.
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>>130969937
i tried to find out his signature, nothing it's not public

the only thing i found about robert guy was this article from the guardian
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>>130966071
BTW no matches in Google image search.
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>>130970976
This. Leave before it's too late.
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>>130971101
Britfag, do you think this document is authentic?
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>>130970956
It was a way to get around FISA if I understand correctly
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>>130971113
>his signature
Try
https://www gchq gov uk/sites/default/files/document_files/20170123-Final-Ext-Ltr-frm-Dir-to-FS-re-standing-down-safe.pdf
His resignation letter..
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>>130968263

Leave while you're still blue-pilled.
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>>130970956
They had no suspicion. They just wanted to spy on him. They used his joke of "Russia if you have Hillary's missing emails I'm sure the press will reward you handsomely" as their justification to brits to spy. Russia just a flimsy excuse to illegally use five eyes network to spy

This all goes back to the illegal spying programs drastically expanded under Obama

http://circa.com/politics/accountability/james-comey-sued-by-intelligence-contractor-dennis-montgomery-over-spying-on-americans
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>>130971223
Working on it now. Seems fishy though -- implicates Rice too strongly. Reads as if it was made to play into what /pol/ already believes.
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>>130968263
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>>130971101
It's not marked on the material. Someone has had a go at making something based on what they've cobbled together from the internet.

They've clearly found the letterhead from there. And they've copied it directly into something that's apparently top secret. Do you think such information is processed and sent the same way as thank you letters? Just sift through the post and, there you go, something about spying on a foreign government?

How idiotic are you?
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>>130970013
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>>130971360
This is why Cernovich was given her name as an unmasker several months ago
That was considered a genuinely big scoop and won him plaudits from Trump Jr and others

This seems like more from whoever is feeding Cernovich inside shit. Ezra Cohen Watnick? Wasnt he the WH guy who brought Nunes up the WH? He was one of the ones clearly looking into what Rice was doing as NSC in the last 16 months
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>>130971250
>fucking spaces in the url

https://www.gchq.gov.uk/sites/default/files/document_files/20170123-Final-Ext-Ltr-frm-Dir-to-FS-re-standing-down-safe.pdf
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>>130966071
>implying that liberals would care and the media would report on it if it's true
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>>130966071
If my post contains repeating numericals then this is a legit document.
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>>130971250
Signature seems to match.
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>>130969901
every fucking time, anon. every fucking time.
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>>130971563
also the problem is, the signature in the two docs looks EXACTLY the same, like someone copied it

signatures never look exactly the same
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>>130971360
>Working on it now
>As if you need to "work on" anything to know that it's been put together by some LARPer

You're suggesting that the director of GCHQ puts, in writing, operational material related to spying on the most powerful country in the world in a document - then sends it through Royal Mail. It's then marked for a clearance that isn't used in the United Kingdom on official documentation, only in compartmentalising.

Go for a beer or something.
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>>130971542
He did. But didn't McMaster remove him from NSC?
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>>130971240

More the FOIAs that would be entailed if they don't contract it out.

FISA is a rubber stamp court that approves everything.
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>>130971704
This anon is right
forgery

fake and gay
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>>130968263

it means get the fuck off this board right fucking now you piece of human refuse
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JEEZE GUYS I'M TIRED.

Will any Pedes up vote this for me?

Based!
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>>130971360
Healthy skepticism. Yeah, now that you mention it, that is fishy.
However, who else would make a request like that? Help me out here.
Let's say Obama had a concern that Trump "colluded" with Russia. And he wanted Trump surveilled. Yet, he wanted foreign intelligence to assist because of concerns of it being politicized. Who would reach out to the Brits to ask for this help? Secretary of State? Would John Kerry out himself out there like that? Or would it be someone like Rice, the National Security Adviser?
And isn't it interesting how she REFUSES to testify before committees under oath? She's pleading the fifth.

Hmmmm...REALLY makes one think, doesn't it?
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>>130966071
>signature says "Really"

lol anon. 10/10
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>>130971704
It's almost as if it's a fabrication, along with the fact that he sent it through the British equivalent of the USPS and folded it up to fit in an envelope. And, despite being the director of the most sophisticated signals intelligence service in the world, marked it with a clearance that isn't in use for individual documents and in a country where individual material isn't stamped with its classification level at all.

Don't worry though we've got an expert who's trying to work out if it's genuine.
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>>130971843
Only other explamation would be using a saved graphic version of his signature on internal documents
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>>130971563
>>fucking spaces in the url
>linking to an intelligence agency website from 4chan
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>>130971704
The other problem is that the signature says "Really".

>mfw none of you niggers can into cursive
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>>130972049
>4chan is illegal
>they aren't here anyhow
>4chan isnt logging everything you do
>4chan isnt a honeypot for the FBI
>4chan isnt a psyop theater for the CIA

get out, newfag
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>>130971504
Apparently people fax and email top secret documents all the time. Just look at Hillary.
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>>130968263
Not only are you new to /pol/, you're also new to the internet. Fuck off new nigger.
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>>130972049
I know. GCHQ weren't onto 4chan before, but now that he's posted that link they're sure to sniff us out.

Aside from you, of course, since you're the expert.
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>>130971920
No, it doesn't. It's his signature. Pic related, sweetie.

https://www.gchq.gov.uk/sites/default/files/document_files/20170123-Final-Ext-Ltr-frm-Dir-to-FS-re-standing-down-safe.pdf
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Fucking fake with the trailing comma. Only thing missing is the paragraph about winning 45,000,000 from death of wealthy Nigerian uncle.
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>>130971733
>>130971939

I agree it's fake, but why are you so sure it was sent through the mail?
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The inclusion of the sentence..

>"..in regards to communications with Russian hostile actors."

..is what immediately removes all legitimacy of this document in my view. They had not constructed the Russia narrative until a few weeks after his election, several months after this letter is purported to have been written. This isn't to say the CSO station at Bude were not eavesdropping on Trump, because such an action is within the remit of GCHQ and would definitely need to be authorised and the form of the letter seems genuine. Asking for authorisation before they eavesdrop is literally what GCHQ has to do according to the Investigatory Powers Act to avoid breaking laws under the Computer Misuse Act.
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>>130970071
Good job bot
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>>130972077

Looks more like Bleeling
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>>130972294
>they put his real signature on the net

it says "Really". you must be fucking daft.
Or perhaps you want to explain how either Robert or Hannigan end in a y, for one example.
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>>130966071
>1 post by this ID
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>>130972204
Some people very well may do but a signals intelligence and cryptography expert in charge of the NSAs only near-peer equivalent is not going to be one of them, nor is he going to put in writing his knowledge of spying on the incoming US President.

For the record, I believe that people have been spying against Trump and it only intensified after his victory. The evidence for that is not in the OP, which should be obvious.
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>>130972049
my government doesn't arrest me for social media posts

also it's easy for an algorithm (if there is one that detects this sort of shit) to ignore spaces (and if there is it would be written in a way that it does)

so you're not preventing GCHQ algorithms, you're just making other's people life a pain in the ass, since they have to figure out why the url doesn't work
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>>130972472

>They had not constructed the Russia narrative until a few weeks after his election

That's not true. They have had an investigation open since July 2016. In addition...As Jeh Johnson stated, Russia has allegedly done this hacking in previous elections as well. They're well known as a hostile actor.
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>>130972077
But that's wrong. See >>130971563
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>>130972363
It has a crease mark as if it were folded for the mail.
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>>130972596
You must be fucking daft if you don't understand how signatures work.
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Isn't anyone else sleepy????
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>>130972675
He's a fuckwit.

>>130972363
Postcode. GCHQ certainly do receive things by post, but you'd only put the postcode on if you were going to actually send the message through the postal system. And you don't send anything of any level through the post.
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>>130972708
Didnt realize Robert ended in a y. sorry my bad. It clearly says either Robert or Hannigan. You can tell from the fucking y that it ends with.

Also as another anon pointed out, the sig is a perfect match. its simply been photocopied. bad enough to photocopy it, even stupider to not realize they are photocopying a fake signature put in for a public document.
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>>130972798
Right now it looks like a B+ larp
Takes elements of the Reality winner saga, some good documentary finds to skillfully combine letterhead plus signature, cleverly made up program names (nothing on google about a project fulsome)
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>>130970071
I love this bot
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>>130968263
welcome new faggot
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>>130966071

>SUPER SEKRIT EYES ONLY DOCUMENT
>DONT DESTROY IT OR ANYTHING JUST LEAVE IT HANGING AROUND

Seems legit
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>>130970481
>>130970551
>>130970631
What if you remove all the what if's in this so it doesn't read like an agonizingly long movie trailer?
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>>130972961
I didn't realize pic related is how you write "Adolf Hitler", but here we are.
Just google "crazy signatures", you absolute retard. It's well known that signatures sometimes bear no relation to actual cursive form.
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>>130973246
Also make sure to put your full name on it, sign it, address it to Boris Johnson, put GCHQs postcode on it, state all the laws you're going to break, include a reference code that is of no use to the recipient and have the classification, that isn't in use for documents, stamped across the top.

Then put it in the fucking post
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>>130972975
>nothing on google about a project fulsome
>implying all projects would be publicly known
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>>130972672
So the conclusion is that someone fabricated a document using online sources for reference, printed it, creased it, scanned it, and then posted here. All for the (yous).
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>>130973586
thats why i called it clever anon
Think the signature is the most damning point against
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>>130972049
kys
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>>130973420
This.
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>>130973704
Oh I read it too fast. Thanks.
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>>130966071
If real it would almost certainly have a codeword in the protective marking.

Also, "former MI5 agent Michael Steele" is very unlikely to be correct. If he worked for MI5 we would call him an officer, not an agent (unlike in the American agencies). An agent is a source in UK speak. If he were a source, there's no way he would be named in something like this.
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>>130968263
It means "I'm pushing this thread up to the top of the forum so it will get the attention I believe it deserves."
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http://electrospaces.blogspot.com/2013/12/the-british-classification-marking-strap.html
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>>130974039
(2/2)
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>>130973609
A lot of effort by some LARPing loser.
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>>130974039
>>130974085

Oy vey, this triggered my husband's epilepsy.

You will be hearing from our very jewish attorneys.
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wat would massimo do?
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>>130974546
go watch some tentacle porn
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>>130974096
Doesn't mean we can't use this. Does someone have the list of all of the news agencies? Let's send this to hundreds of different outlets and let's let them look into it. Maybe one of them will bite, stirring up some controversy?
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>>130974623

I don't watch it, I only research it with my family
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>>130971563
Both military and government use blue pen stamps or auto pen.
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>>130974085
Not saying it's not fake, but digitizing a signature and adding it to a document isn't uncommon.
t. worked for a government and literally digitized my boss' signature in illustrator in multiple colors for him so it looked nice and crisp when he printed it out so he didn't actually have to sign anything.
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If even a few of us were convinced by this, that means the general public can fall for it, too. Let's send this to every news organization for the lulz. Are you with me?
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>>130974994
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>>130974994
Go for it, it's worth it to just re share this train of thought with some people, as I do believe they used a lot of foreign services to create the Russia hoax
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>>130971843
So, you believe the Obama birth certificate is fake. Good.
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>>130974994

Let's make our own fake ones showing that GCHQ are spying on leftists for being too communist and anti-racist so they think they're under attack
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>>130968263
Welcome to /pol/ friend! Now get the fuck out.
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>>130974994
I'd hate to be the poor sap at Fox or CNN that publishes it.
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>>130975570
Now that's using your noggin.
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>>130975406
I would say OP's document is about the same level of composite that the Obama white house released certificate is, yes
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>>130968263
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>>130968263
YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE, LEAVE WHILE YOU CAN, FOR THE MEMORIES OF THOSE WHO CANNOT LEAVE THIS PLACE, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
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>>130968263
it literally means lurk more newfag...
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>>130971250
literally identical signature... op signature is copy pasta...
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>>130971281
>WHEN THE FACTS ARE EXTRA TANGY
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>>130966071

All save & screencap this memo for future....will be handy when we get obongo behind bars & help win Trump in peoples hearts.

Thank you Kek.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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