Syria General /sg/ - Russian No-Fly Zone Edition

>>130541556
Now that the Russians are going to enforce their no-fly zone, what do you think will happen, /sg/?

fuck off sandniggers

R O J A V A

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HOL' UP

>>130541566
Either CJTFOIR (USAF) takes it seriously and works much more carefully, or an incident that provokes escalation happens.

>>130541721
Do you think they (CJTFOIR) will use artillery from now on?

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>>130541566
Tigers are going to meet ISIS and SDF in Rojava.

>>130541566

US jet shoots down another SyAAF jet. US jet gets S-300'ed. Major butthurt ensues.

Qatar/ME Crisis
>Saudi captures 3 Iran Revolutionary Guard members after their boat tried to target oil field (Reuters)
>IRGC claims missile attacks killed Abu Saad, a saudi high profile ISIS commander.
>Iraq PM heads to Saudi Arabia then to Kuwait & Iran
>Expulsion of Qataris from Gulf states comes into effect
>Report: Israel secretly giving aid to Syrian rebels
>Saudi hints Iranian fisherman killed on Fri by naval forces was w 3 boats smuggling weapons for "acts of sabotage
>Khamenei calls Trump "an inexperienced thug."
>Turkish troops arrive in Qatar
>Pakistan PM Nawaz Sharif on private visit to Saudi Arabia for pilgrimage
>Egypt mediating talks between Hamas, Dahlan & PA
>Qatar still waiting for list of grievances
>Bahrain orders Qatari troops to leave coalition fighting ISIL
>Qatar cows impacted by crisis, "feeling exhausted" to make up for milk shortages.
>Bahrain council now condemning Qatar interference (leaked audio b/w Doha & opposition), plotting with Iran.
>Trade talks between Israel and Saudi Arabia mark a historic first; Orb glows brighter.
>AP: Trump Organization ended Qatar push 6 days after swearing in
>Chinese naval fleet arrives for friendly visit to Iran
>Saudi Arabia 'rejects' Turkey offer to build base in kingdom
>SDF Boosts Relations W/ Saudi Arabia, Praises Its Role In “Stabilisation” Of Syria
>VIDEO: A fight erupted between Qatari and Saudi delegates at GCC meeting. https://twitter.com/SameeraKhan/status/875804141444104193
>Eritrean troops seize control of a disputed border area with Djibouti, days after Qatari troops withdrew
>Qatar already prosecuted 5 men on US terrorism list, plans to charge 2 more over terror funding https://archive.fo/Wrn0V
>Theresa May spoke with Barhain, Saudi & Qatar, urged de-escalation and ways to address radicalization in region.

>>130541662
do israeli girls like to get blacked?

>>130541773
OIR has only XVIII Airborne Corps under their command, check for yourself:
>http://www.inherentresolve.mil/
The artillery is manned by marines, and it hasn't been used extensively, so I guess no.

>>130541888 (Checked)
Could you do *NEW* beside the new updates? That way, they don't get drowned out in a sea of greentext.

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>>130541566
Pentagon released statement saying they do wut they want.

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>>130541556

>>130542012
>the de-confliction line
Agreed on by lengthy negotiations between the US and the US.

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Six months of BTOFing rebves and ISIS

>>130542012
kek. assadists are on suicide watch.

I don't know what is worse, the US worsening SDF-Gov relations by shooting down that jet or /sg/ actually delighted that the SDF-Gov should clash.

>>130541989
should i ungreentext and place *NEW*?

>>130542102
lel

>>130542102
this lmao

they're literally memeing that shit all over the battlefield

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>>130542175
WARMAP: RESAFA LIBERATION EDITION
>>130542279
Actually, just ungreentexting new updates sounds great

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FIRST for

YA HEZBOLLAH!

>>130541721

This

I think the US coallition will just bomb ISIS now, they will not aproach SAA in the immediate future.
Much like the Russian jet downing by the Turkshit army last year. After that incident, the turkshit command decided to ground all their planes until the Al Bab offensive and by that time they were working closely with the russian side.

>>130542244
there is nothing wrong with good old arab on kurd violence.

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>>130542175
Protip

>>130542102
I believe it refers to Russia-Coalition hotline. It sure didn't prove shit yesterday though.

>>130542012
Hahaha.
>muh S-400
>muh S-300

No one takes down American jets you fucking doozies. only in your Assadist fantasies. /sg/ btfo as usual.

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>>130542175
Pretty good, second liberation of Palmyra, formation of 5th corps and the de conflicting zones with rebels turned to be a massive success.

>>130542554
Don't be too confident.

SUPPORT THE ROJAVA REVOLUTION

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>Nearly all Syrian Hezbollah units have been redeployed to the Palmyra CS frontlines, goal is to unite with Syrian Army Tiger Forces in Raqqa

>>130542336
You should probably color all settlements black tb,h. Hard to distinguish yellow on yellow and green on green, especially zoomed out like here >>130542175

>>130542703
So your prediction of connecting Suknah-Tabqa road comes true, and at the same time, does the OVERKOTEL

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>>130542554
Hahahahaha
>muh IRGC
>muh borders

No one captures american soldiers you fucking doozies. only in your Assadist fantasies. /sg/ btfo as usual

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>>130542692
>REVOLUTION

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>>130542803
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkBMAHUkibY

>>130542336
k

>>130542692
They are having revolution? From 1 to 10 burgers how aware you of who the fuck are kurds?

>>130542811
I-I n-now touch my peepee for /p_td/. I am now a neocon.

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>>130542822
>this faggot
555-come-on-now.

>>130542723
The point isn't to show settlements (do you know how much work recoloring all of them would be?), the point is to show current frontlines in a much neater format without relying on hoholmaps.

>>130542803
>OVERKOTEL
isn't that a kotyol?

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So.. Somewhat diplomatical, somewhat in the side of escalation.
How to say something and nothing at the same time 101.

>>130542012
>We made the escalation
>But it's Russias fault

How can people still take the US gov seriously?

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>>130542937
They are freedom loving democratic people xDDD
Who cares if they are anarcho-communists as long as they oppose ASSad who gassed 6 million of his own people with barrel bombs.

>>130542989
>tfw E. Salamiya blob hasn't changed much in 3 years

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>>130542937
Half of they country voted for Clinton, I mean come on.
>>130542972
Kocioł

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>>130542989
Very nice

>>130542584
>formation of 5th corps

By the way, where are these guys? I haven't heard anything about them since they ping-ponged over that destroyed gas field in Palmyra.

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>>130542811
>under Barack "allau ackbar! give Iran $100 billion more and kill evil American imperialist kuffars" Obama
lmao

>>130542972
You pronounce it like kotyol but it is written like КOTЁЛ, so i guess both are partially right.

>>130542822
I thought we were there to fight ISIS not encourage civil war on behalf of Israel.

(I'm aware we along with Israel created ISIS to fight Iranian influence in Iraq and too create more chaos and a weakened state)

>>130543111
I have no clue what's up with that area, it seems the goat fuckers over there found some good goats and don't want to leave that area.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/propaganda-video-published-ahrar-al-sham-shows-military-camp-central-syria/
Anyone wanna look?

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Syria 2018

>>130543244
Take a look at the elevation map, and watch ANNA release about how IS stays supplied in the deserts/mountains.

>>130543140
They are the ones who took back palmyra and the surroundings, fought alongside tigers in north hama counter attack

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>>130543111
>>130543244

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>>130541566
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmZcE6xn_0o

>>130542954
>do you know how much work recoloring all of them would be?
I hoped for 'Right click group - blending options - color overlay' amount of work. Well good job either way.

Good morning lads! Did it happen? Did russia retaliate?

>>130542012
>shoots down a Syrian jet
>we only seek conflict with ISIS
wat

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http://popularmilitary.com/russia-warns-us-aircraft-now-targets-downing-syrian-jet/

A war is going to break out between my Home country and the Russians.

>>130543209
At this point I wonder what your foreign policy people are thinking to justify their actions desu.

>>130543488 HEIL
They've threatened to shoot down any non-Syrian/Russian aircraft flying over Syria

>>130543512
>Bombs the Kurds
>We only seek conflict with ISIS
wat

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>>130543377

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>>130543140
I suggest they are the ones at Arak-T3 just not acting like "Isis hunters" and not making too much media noise.
Speaking of le "Isis hunters" not sure if they are part of 5th corps or not.
Since their gear is obviously semi modern imported russian gear.

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>>130543555

>>130543515
Just defect.

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>>130543555

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SBm5e5N1-4
New Ahrar vid from Northern Homs

Anyone interested?

>>130543555
Some retard on twitter says he was being tortured by the Kurds. Is proof was that there was no evidence that there wasn't

>>130543609
SAA isn't seeking conflics only with ISIS though and I don't recall them ever saying that taking out ISIS was their only goal.

>>130543558
I want Macron to fly a plane right now!!!!!

>>130543644
I can't do something like that. I have family back home!

wait up guys.
did they say "we will shoot down every plane in the zone" or did they say "we will TARGET every plane"?

>>130543555
based maghreb
pilot is dead hopefully
whoever bombs the based Kurds deserves death
bless trump and maddog

>>130543311
With Iraqi PMU on the border i woudnt be so sure about yellow paint on the other side of DeZ.

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>>130543777
Jesus, you've been spamming us since last night. Get a life

>>13054298
Are all the Iraqi border gains confirmed?

>>130543829
They will traget every coalition plane in the zone. I am not an expert at this but they will likely do some fuckery with radar signals and show them that they are ready to shoot.

>>130543920
what the fuck are you talking about

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>>130543741

>>130543996
oh. low tier happening then.

>>130543825
Then you die fighting for the jews.

>>130543516
a fun time it to find out how many members of the US government are dual US-Israeli citizens, including senators

hint: there are a lot of them

>>130543179
I'd transcribe kotel as kotyel too desu, most probably think it's pronounced kot3l because the transcription isn't phonetic
>>130543311
looks like that's what burgers are going for at this point, yes
let's hope it doesn't happen

>>130543741
Idlib pocket or pocket beetween Hama and Homs?

>>130543829
treat every plane as target. Which means angry words and escort by fighters, most likely not even lock on by targeting radar, people are just overhyping it. Russians and americans aren't going to start shooting each other.

>>130543825
take your family and run away

#"Pilot was rescued"

Much misinformation about the pilot being/not being rescued. Don't give the enemy incentive to look 4 him.

>>130543996
No it's no radar fuckery, radar waves change when a plane is targeted by radar, so a radar warning receiver can read this and produce a warning.

But it depends it may not be able to depending on the radar.

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>>130544097
I am sad now

>>130544208
wait wait, escort by fighters is a little bit bigger than just targeting tho.

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>>130543825

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>>130544291
no, it isn't, they do that all the time. Locking on with targeting radar is the more severe option.

>>130543741
likely pointless, russians are negotiating with ahrar

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>>130544122
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/propaganda-video-published-ahrar-al-sham-shows-military-camp-central-syria/
Rastan, I believe
Might be protected by the ceasefires but I think we all know that is a meme at this point

>>130544272
>radar waves change when a plane is targeted by radar, so a radar warning receiver can read this and produce a warning.
This is what I meant though.

>>130544272
but were theynot all tracked before? I mean they must have tracked everymovement on air ? or when youactually target a plane it's what russia is doing?

>>130543996
>do some fuckery with radar signals

It will do nothing. The Russians had to do radar stuff until now too, unless their systems were completely turned off. What they were saying was that they would do radar stuff HARDER.

For those who are curious: it is the rough equivalent of literally fucking nothing.

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>>130544444
checked!

>>130544444
You wrote something else than what you meant.

Also wasted them numbers lad.

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>>130543741
Ahrar are Qatari/T*rk puppets and signed ceasefire deal with Assad,
Also, considering it's recorded in the middle of nowhere, it's not worth the hazzle.

>>130544489
They are tracking constantly, getting a lock on is a completely different deal.

>>130544291
>>130544410
The most severe option before acutally firing a missile would be to fake a missile launch.

>>130544116
I understand that but even then they must feel some sort of remorse and need some justification to keep doing this shit desu.

>>130544291
No not really. Fighters get escorted over the Baltic and near Alaska all the time. If you lock onto some one with fire control radar then that's next to a hostile action.

>>130544489
they always track planes, but locking them is having it a button press from launching a missile.

although my country is in NATO, why russians and syrians can get shot down without repercussions but people think shooting down NATO/US plane will cause apocalypse?

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>>130543488
Good morning lad!
Only threats by now, pilot's situation unconfirmed with any kind of visual proof.
>>130543555
(You)

>>130544713
Media

>>130544563
>>130544657
So russia will do a lock on from now on and usa will know it

>>130544713
It wont cause the apocalypse.

Russia is afraid of more sanctions so they don't retaliate.
If it was the soviet union they would have shot down something long ago.

>>130544573
how would you do that? You either detect the cone of the targeting radar locking on your plane, or a missile that makes it into detection range of IR sensors and whatever else modern planes have on board. You don't "fake" a missile launch, not only because that's hardly possible but also because that's like saying "we just took hostile action, please shoot back". You don't draw a gun unless you intend to shoot.

>>130544785
Basically it works like this: A50U in the air - nothing will happen from the coalition side.
When it lands, everything is possible.

>>130544444
CHECK'DDDDD SHADILAY! KEK WILLS IT! KEK VULT! DEGETS CUNFIRMMMMM

>>130542554

Maybe not any more modern US jet with S-300s, but you're getting fucked by S-400s or Pantsirs.

>>130544657

Russian SAM systems use radio guidance and not active radar guidance (since their radars are all passive/semi-active), so they can't "lock" on target in the strictest manner.

>>130542692
SUPPORT THE KURDISH CANNON FODDER
WITH USA MADE WEAPONS

>>130544868
You can simulate a missile launch and then the plane can send signals towards the rocket. If the rocket "answers" then you actually have a rocket flying towards you. North Koreans have done this a lot to scare away US spy planes wihtout trying to shoot them down.

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>>130544444
>tfw pilot over Syria just became most stressful job ever

>>130541908
hey hey hey. I am the only Hippie here

>>130541857
Implying those pieces of shit will shoot down us aircraft

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>WASHINGTON: We seek for restoration of incident-prevention hotline with Moscow in Syria

>>130544994
That's true for radars that can engage one target at a time, modern systems can engage up to 50 or more.
The radar may not ever change it's radar waves when it's tracking more than one target.

>>130544960

Memes aside, the S-400 is really just an S-300 with a different carriage and some comfy digital bits in the electronics compartment.

You are thinking about the Tor system.

This is me showing my naivety when it comes to rocketry and missiles/countermeasures, but in order to reduce the reaction time of a target aircraft would it make sense to have the missile target the region near the jet, but not directly paint it until it's very close? This would prevent the jet from realizing it's being targeted for a while, but I imagine this would also waste a lot of the fuel the missile has in taking a longer flightpath.

>>130545188
Point is without this hotline it's very hard for USAF to give air support to the SDF safely.
Advance of SDF around Raqqa is highly dependant on the restoration of it

>>130545051
That's just a lock, a lock pretty much means a launch the planes RWR may not be able to determine a launch from just a lock.

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>ISIS claims to have killed 4 soldiers with snipers and 5 soldiers in clashes today in Marawi

What the fuck is going on there? Theres basically no news from the army at all.

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>>130544489
There are different types of radars. Different bands, such as tracking and fire control. Aircraft can tell the difference. Every aircraft over Syria is probably being tracked by 50 different tracking radars.

It would be interesting to learn what type of Jamming is being used. Other than jamming against ISIS/FSA communications, IEDs and an occasional radar. My guess is that no side would start jamming because the other side could study it. When Russia sent jammers and EW into Eastern Ukraine the US sent RQ-4s for SIGINT

>>130545247
yes, and that's how some systems operate, and others can be ghetto modded to do so. That's how the serbs managed to shoot down the F117 with an S125 for example.

>>130544421
why do all groups always put those larp style knife and hand to hand fighting clips in their videos?
do they think it looks cool or something like that?

>>130545237
Just to add, with S500 being a complete maemae and I doubt even Russia would depend on it in combat situations.

>>130545237

What about Pantsirs, aren’t they more suitable anyway for short-range air defence against sophisticated targets.

>>130544588
they're just spreading democracy, and if you don't want to spread democracy you're overly cynical and in support of evil dictators

thats the justification for everything

I can't remember the name of the policy paper but back in the Carter Administration we used to have a foreign policy that was focused more on stability but since then we've obviously shifted and it has traditionally been justified by saying we're spreading democracy, as well as fighting terrorism. They did this by claiming that the previous policy was far too cynical, which is ironic because their moralizing is probably the most cynical thing that has ever been sold to the American people

We both know that this isn't why they do it but thats the moral justification

>>130545440
Think of Pantsirs as a next generation of Shilka.

>Now #IRGC claims according "local sources" Al Baghdadi's stepson is killed in #IRGC missile attacks to #DeirEzzor

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>>130545307
Guess they should learn to stop fucking with SAA around the clock then.

Lads, I wanna see a f-35 turned into shrapnel. Tell me its gonna happen.

>>130545247
Depends on the system, some systems may be able to do this, up until a certain distance, the issue is not contacting a missile in flight but getting a contact back from a missile.
But there are two main types of missiles active radar missiles, and semi active, the former can guide on their own to a plane once in range of their on board radar, the latter needs constant communication to the radar.

But all of this stuff especially modern, is super secret so we don't really know what happens and when and if it's really possible or not.

>>130542692
>Implying that its actually going to be a communist state after war end

You've never heard the about the power of being allied to USA

>>130545602
Not before all those dirty pakis are shipped out of Britain :)

>>130542937
burgers generally ignorant of it. around these parts likely 6 tho. general pop: 2 at best

>>130545196

Passive radars don't have "radar waves" or anything like that. They track their targets... well... passively, so they don't produce locks. Semi-active radars only "ping" the target with an active beam so that the passive receiver can "see" without relying on outside sources. It does not produce a lock, either.

Russian SAMs are not like Patriots at all.

>>130545509
Pantsir is missile-based, Shilka is purely a SPAAG. Pantsir is an improved Tunguska.

>>130545583
Funk took the command not a month ago, he barely controls the OIR & the XVIII, it's not like every USAF action is well-planned. I think they don't even know what consequences can their action cause, while Hmeimim and Kremlin are playing everything safe, but don't hesitate to take drastic steps if needed. (like the hotline and the warning)

>>130545509
I think that's the Tunguska
Pantsir is the truck mounted one, I think it's larger caliber

>>130545874
You don't know how it works you don't have access to the system stop talking like you do.

It may, but it may not.
It also may, but US RWR can discern the differences in signals

shut up you putinlovers

russia will do shit against american air vehicles, we can bomb anywhere at any time and russians can do nothing against it

putin is worse than obama with his threats and red lines, i'm glad trump is all action and not just hot air. you ASSad lovers will be stomped

>>130545533
That's really a non story. Abu-Bakr Al Baghdadis cousin did a VBIED attack a few months ago and nobody gave a shit. (It was even on video)

>>130545951
I think Pantsirs have 2x30mm too, but what I meant is the way of using it.

>>130545440

Yeah, I mean, Tors + Pantsirs, not S400s + Pantsirs. The only problem now is that both Tors and Pantsirs are short-ranged and are highly vulnerable to counter-battery fire.

>>130545964
USAF is undoubtedly the most retarded branch of our armed forces.

>>130545994
can't*

>>130545972
Same caliber same missiles currently, there's suppose to be a 20-30km range one called Hercules or something for it in the future.
The pantsir is a complex it's modular it can be mounted anywhere on anything

>>130546039
>maghrebi larping

>>130546039
The kike joins again

>>130542937

At best, you might have people hazily remembering Saddam being evil or something, and that's only talking to older people.

I've been slowly discussing syria and US foreign policy with co-workers, which has been good in showing people just how retarded the MSM is, but it also shows me that no one knows anything about the syrian war except

>muh sarin babies, assad must go

Ask people about the kurds and they will think you're talking about cheese.

>>130545994

Dude, passive radars can work only one way. It is not rocket science. Hell, kikepedia has a pretty good article about them, look it up.

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>>130545188
>9gag.tumblr.gif
snus is being consumed by memes

>>130545381
Thanx for the info lad!

>>130546085
>>130546079
>>130545972
>>130545951
How do you guys know so much about this stuff? Where do I learn it?

>>130545509

I thought they were missile-based? Didn't one of them down a US-made Turkish jet before.

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>>130545964
One would ask how sane the command is after shooting down a jet and allowing their minions to advance and engage SAA.

>>130544713
You just answered your question.

US is insane and begging for a reason to level the world, so much to the point they encroach, threaten, and kill soldiers from an enemy nuclear power regularly but would cause WWIII if it happened to them.

>>130546124
but tunguska and shilka are both specific names for tracked aa guns, right?

>>130546089
No need to judge, when Townsend was fired following the amazing number of civilian massacres, there was no one ready to take his place, they had to get a random face for the whole operation. I think CJTFOIR is more concerned about hiding the civilian casualties (last week "agency" for research about civilians killed doubled in size) than about genuine combat operations.

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Any Arab speakers who can translate this?

It's from the trailer for Raqqa released by IS today

>>130546447
Ya

>>130546375
>>>/k/

It's a magical place

>>130544713
>people think shooting down NATO/US plane will cause apocalypse?
NATO/US doesnt have to play by the rules

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>>130542989
perfect

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>>130546264
>It is not rocket science.
Except, it literally is rocket science.
>>130546311
>tfw

>>130546537
Man that board was insufferable. Imagine a board made up of Maghrebis and Charlie India Alphas.

>>130545365
Media blackout, same as Mosul

It happens often when a fully funded professional army is humiliated by a disorganised bunch of fanatics.

>>130543555

Top KEK

>The city of Assadists

>>130543741
this is like some redneck rampage tier fun.

If they added alcohol and a relaxing afternoon by the pool with some bikini babes I'd definitely sign up for this reality holiday package

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>>130546421
Didn't mean to make you lads confused, I just want to say that it's a very short range system, and comparison with Shilka is based only on it's practical use, not on the way of how it works.
>>130546439
Ever wondered who is behind sending combat sorties in OIR? I can assure you it's not the high command. And mentioning the ways SDF work.. Sure they follow US suggestions straight from Pentagon, but it's just another middle eastern militia, and expectations about their actions should be judged by this standard, rather than US command.

>>130546707

I'm pretty sure one of them actually joined the lions of rojava

What's the most redpilling video about Syrian conflict?

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>>130546447
shilkas have seen plenty of combat in this conflict by the way. 4 23mm cannons are ideal for dismantling hajijs thinking that the house they're firing from is perfectly safe.

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>>130546863
guys from a moderate group that recieved TOWs literally beheading a child? Not really SFW though

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>>130546311
>snus is being consumed by memes
Snusbro was born into them, molded by them.

>>130546863
>most redpilling video about Syrian conflict
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3msAhuwzaMI
>>130546811
Well, which wanker thought downing a govt. jet was such a bright idea?

>>130546863

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrKteSrZJbY

When a US senator is telling it like it is and people still don't listen you know things are fucked.

anyone notice this interferes directly with the american operations? now they US and allies cant conduct strikes anymore against terrorists in syria.

>>130547103
Nope. I mean an explanation of the whole conflict for normies who are still in the "FSA are freedom fighters" stage

>>130546983
>that slat armor on the sides
Ugh, do they really believe it's side armor even after improvements will stand a single RPG7? Pretty much any side hit to a Shilka can make it's ammunition catch fire.
>>130546863
fun_in_suheils_HQ_part4.avi

If I was the Americans …..I would unleash absolute hell on the Syrian armed forces if I saw Russia not coming to the aid of their so called Syrian allies.

It’s not like Russia is going to do anything right?

Can someone please explain to me why the Americans from a strategic military standpoint are not truely taking advantage of this Russian in action?

If the Americans truely want to destabilize and break up Syria…..Why not unleash your military might on the Syrians?

What is holding the Americans back?

Is it possible they want to keep Assad in power but only have control over Damascus?

>>130547194
well, showing them FSA beheading children sure will get those almonds activated. not suitable unless you're posting on an anonymous bhutanese macarame assembly though

>>130546863
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xktDEQPGzW0

>>130546863
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhL8D0wYevo

this basically tell you all you need to know

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>>130546806
>mfw
Make it happen Suheil.

>>130547142
Exactly, I doubt it was even consulted with the high command, rather a combat group reacting to SyAF supposedly targeting SDF advances.

>130547220
you need to be +18 to post here

>>130547220
Public/popular support.

90% of America probably doesn't even know we're in Syria and starting a new war would cause massive outcry as if its a new "Iraq" or "Vietnam".

>>130547103
Nour ed din is a part of Hayat Tahrir al Sham rn I think, so they aren't really moderate. Pourpose of groups such as these was that US can arm them without directly aiding al quaeda and them later defecting to al quaeda. Middle man sort of speak.

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>>130546863
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5jBqo7yttk

>>130546983

Shilkas look like they're actually very effective from the footage I've seen just not for the purposes they were actually built for. Kinda like having an armoured technical on steroids.

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>>130547198
game of chances. Especially against less sophisticated shaped charge weapons slat armor can, with a bit of luck, almost entirely prevent the formation of the penetrating jet or even stop the warhead from exploding at all. Better than nothing, and the added weight shouldn't be a problem in urban combat.

>>130547452
That bearded guy in a white shirt was posting on face**** yesterday by the way

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>>130546375
>How do you guys know so much about this stuff? Where do I learn it?
Call of Duty m8.

>>130547198
As long as crew feels safer it's good enough. It's moral support.

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>>130546806

>>130547452
they are now. They were a vetted group earlier that recieved ATGMs

>>130547220
>Is it possible they want to keep Assad in power but only have control over Damascus?

Yes, this is pretty much the US endgame as of now: Assad stays, but rendered powerless because of the Russians doing everything over his head.

Don't eat this shitty nu-cold war meme. The US and Russia has aligning interests in the region, and they do scratch backs behind the curtain.

>>130547477
They're meant for taking out CAS craft and helicopters, similar role to the vulkan.

>>130547515
Hmm, that's the thing with cumulative charges, guess you're right.

>>130546264
All articles are old it doesn't apply anymore, and probably never did because the intricacies of how it works is secret and they wont tell you.
Also it's not passive radar, it has to do with the missile.
Passive radars are different, that's when you have separate receiver and transceiver dishes

>>130547166
they can, as russia will just target them not actually shoot at them

>>130547166
IIRC the Quran has a verse specifically about the enemies of the Ummah fighting each other in the end-times, so they're probably loving this.

>Iraq Parliament Def Committee: Telafar battle after Mosul. Hope to take Telafar, Hawija and Qaim before end of year

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>>130547477
yes, what i was writing. They were first used on a larger scale in chechnya that way, not only because they've got plenty of dakka to clear buildings but also because of their elevation allowing them to fire at higher targets in urban combats that MBTs and IFVs couldn't reach.

Bashar died. No kidding.
>Nusra commander Bashar Sheikh Dib assassinated in Idleb.

>>130547535
Gib link so I can bomb. I suffer from insomnia anyway so literally anyone can send me videos and such and I'll try to find the coordinated during sleepless nights.

Also, someone notice my very cool id

>>130547220
Public opinion doesn't allow it and they're cooling off after Iraq/Afghanistan

Give it a decade and they will be right back into full-on ground invasions for countries which defy them.

>>130547827
Any idea why to they always fire it in short bursts rather than a long one? It doesn't seem to lose the target due to recoil, does it overheat that badly? It's a 23mm after all.

>>130546447
guns missiles radar complex
a system

>>130547871
Cool, I like tea. Nice ID.
What do you mean? The link to face*** post? It's just plain text.

>>130548010
That thing's fire rate is so damn high that it probably starts to melt pretty quickly.

>>130547861
Shit Baghdadi too

>al-Baghdadi was killed when a joint operation of American and Iraqi forces rocketed a safe house 10 kilometres (6 mi) southwest of Tikrit. ISIS Minister of War Abu Ayyub al-Masri and al-Baghdadi's son were also killed in the attack and 16 others were arrested.

>>130548010
so they don't burn through their ammo to quickly, and to see what they are hitting i assume. They also often fire only from two barrels.

>>130546806
What if this is the US's plan? Other than taking Tabqa airbase and control of both sides of the Dam the Kurds don't need or want anything on the West side of the Euphrates. Even if they don't get Raqqah it's not that big of a deal. It's not worth the casualties. It would be a Mosul 2.0. It's going to be leveled to the ground and the surviving civilian population will still probably be hostile.

>>130547821
they promised to take Mosul in less than 2 months.
It's the 9th now

>>130548082
Oh, okay. I thought there might have been some photos and such- useful for locating.

>>130548010

wikipedia says continuous fire would heat the barrels to the point where new rounds would continue to cycle and fire even when the operator wasn't firing the guns.

It's only a matter of time before the based Kurds are deployed to eastern Syria to cockblock the Shiite crescent.

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>>130548251
Why did you DELET THIS?

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>>130548251
You promised Hama.

>>130548010

23mm totally wrecks everything except composite armor. No point in spraying and depleting ammo fast as a result.

>>130547827

I wasn't thinking urban warfare, but it makes sense that they're great for sweeping buildings with. I've just seen them used to great effect in open desert and countryside to sweep enemy lines or vehicles. Far more effective than any tank against technicals and lightly or armoured vehicles.

>>130548135
>>130548010
yeah another important point, just read up on that. Air targets are supposed to be engaged with short bursts of 2-3 rounds per barrel, after 50 rounds full auto there's the danger of cooling failure

Next Astana round scheduled for 4-5 June.

Thanks for all the redpilling suggestions guys, I think I'll go for the senator video with "Good morning Souria" at background

>>130548034
really?
the macedonian pointed out that the pantsir is a modular system, afaik tunguska and shilka are always tracked, self-propelled guns.

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>>130548536
>next Astana round has been scheduled in the past
Well, so much for that.

>>130548536

Next UN SECDEF meeting WHEN??

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>>130546806
Let's keep it real bros. Let's keep it real instead.

>>130548511
>>130548443
>>130548332
>>130548192
>>130548135
Wew, alright now I know!

>>130548536

It's already the 20th Piotr.

>>130548640
>>130548536
Yeah, July obviously

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>>130547194
>normies who are still in the "FSA are freedom fighters"
wew

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>>130548251

This,>>130548437
What happened to your brilliant analysis? Did Countryside unfriend you on Facebook for making untoward advances?
I can see it now;
>Maghrebi has updated his relationship status to "It's complicated"

>>130548235
>what if the US's plan is to hand over a provincial capital to their enemies, allow the Resistance axis to complete the Shia crescent (thereby infuriating their Arab allies), not use the allies which they've been cultivating for the last 3 years to take Raqqa and generally abandon the direction of their foreign policy for the last few decades

Yes, I wonder why not.

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YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL BAKERIES

>>130548854
>>130548437
>hurr durrers stil hurr durring
how many times will i repeat that shitposts aren't my thoughts?

>>130548570
educate yourself

>https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/04/06/syria-president-bashar-assad-war-criminal/100116828/

>https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/05/syria-forces-war-crime-barrel-bombs-aleppo-amnesty-report

>https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/25/russia-accused-war-crimes-syria-un-security-council-aleppo

>>130549039
Archive

>http://theguardian com/world/2015/may/05/syria-forces-war-crime-barrel-bombs-aleppo-amnesty-report
https://archive.is/UN2uI
>http://theguardian com/world/2016/sep/25/russia-accused-war-crimes-syria-un-security-council-aleppo
https://archive.is/VQHvp

>>130548951
just look at that runt and his weak jaw

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>>130549014
*Angered vaping intensifies*
>REEEEEEE I covered my ass with shitposting to hide my true beliefs!
>Believe me guise!

>>130548570
>must watch

American senator tell the other side of the story: https://youtu.be/0FNtEWfay_8
>Virginia senator on Aleppo: https://youtu.be/VfyDgDTu0Go
UN Neutral report on "War Crimes" in Syria: https://youtu.be/Yc-RmAVK8Pg
>Syria: Not a Revolution: https://youtu.be/8prwbWLa7f0

>THE TRUTH ABOUT White helmets: https://youtu.be/8aAaReVn2I4 | https://youtu.be/Es7oBV6b43Y
more on white helmets: https://youtu.be/tseqwNIXhDQ | https://youtu.be/792ODrhwKkk
White helmets killing a child for UN https://youtu.be/9nj6fc69qjM

=========
"Chemical attacks" in Khan Shiekoun on April 4
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2017/04/67182.html
>President Assad: Chemical Attack was 100% Fabrication https://youtu.be/_pGAcv-cvA4
=========
>What's REALLY Happening in Syria (by SyrianGirlPartisan): https://youtu.be/OJZRvp6w4wc
Syria ambassador in USA: https://youtu.be/U3LTTbOYVfU
>The Face of American Regime Change: https://youtu.be/T634A6AWR9c
Assad visits monastery for Christmas: https://youtu.be/aG_SutViEmQ
Soldier met family after 5 years: https://youtu.be/zHoeU9mZ1Xss
>Canadian Journalist Expose The Lies of Syria: https://youtu.be/tmNnZ-3JmSo
=========
NGO’s and hybrid warfare: https://youtu.be/ro1byfe5vUM
=========
WikiLeaks: Turkish oil minister links to Isis oil trade
- wikileaks.org/berats-box/article
Top aide to Hillary Clinton: :Al-Qaeda is on our side in Syria
- wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/23225

=======
>SJWs cuckmarch(riding in my Volkswagen van everyday) from Germany to Aleppo "over the course of three and a half months"
https://youtu.be/L2A3KidIhe8
Progress: 20 left out of 3000+ at the start,5+ months have passed since the roadtrip started. From May 1st they are in Greece....

Thread reminder to watch Threads.
https://vimeo.com/18781528

https://youtu.be/t98PD6KCg2Q

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>>130549039
>accuesed
>alledged
>MUH BARREL BOMBS

>>130549039
It's not for me anon, and normies won't read

We must secure the existence of our people and a future for Salafi children

NEXT BREAD WILL BE MINE
NEXT BREAD WILL BE MINE
NEXT BREAD WILL BE MINE
NEXT BREAD WILL BE MINE

>BREAKING: Fighters of the Islamic State recaptured almost everything of the Al-Sina'ah (Industrial) neighborhood east of Raqqah city after storming that led to the killing of 11 PKK (SDF) fighters and the burning of 2 vehicles.

SDF babbies btfo

Assad is next

Islamic State shall survive.

>>130548595
it's all in one box/trackedvehicle

but it's still a combat system. it can be added to others etc.

but it's a collection of things. it's not just aa gun

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>>130548951

YOUR BREAD BELONG TO US!

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>>130549014
>hurr durr
Damascus soon, fellow moderate.

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>>130543311
:)

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>>130549684
>>130549700

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Ok fags, let's play a game or challenge
Download that crap. It's SAM Simulator
https://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home
Then imagine that you're poor Syrian AA officer have to shot US jet.
Post results.
Also, with that program you can literally learn how to operate soviet SAM launchers.

Here's video of gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2ymWrOmeDg

/sg/ i have big wish to screw /ptg/ badly. What do you think?

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>>130541566

10 bucks US already opens its champagne bottles, because they just need reasons for new proxy wars.
On the other side, russia acts though but when shit really hits the fan they cucks themselfes and does compromises because (good for them+their allies) they are smart enough to not fall for fucking american foreign politics.

in short, i would really be surprised if they had the balls to shoot down an american jet (implying their S-400 is even good enough to do so - range isnt everything)

>inb4
>b-but S-400 sooo strong...all MSM said so, just like chinas undefeatable new rockets
>mfw its just to get higher budgets for their military

I'm just wondering how ISIS is able to survive even though they're being bombed by the entire world. Russia, the USA, Turkey, France, etc. All are bombing them. Yet they still manage to thrive.

Divine intervention, perhaps?

>>130549816
i'll definetly give that a try once i make it home

>>130549889
fuck off, we don't want outside attention

>>130549889
Pls no, hans

"le ebin raiding XD" is childish and only invokes more shitposting and bullshit here

>>130549889
/sg/ is a board of peace, we don't raid or whatever you're up to pham

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>>130549816
Fuck yes. What am I shooting and with what?

>>130549808
rejoice at more Sandniggers dying egal what side they are fighting for.
Too many of them already.

>>130549816
This looks so cool! Are there any other simulaator games like this? Submarine/naval type?

kys you monkey

show your true flag you subhuman

>>130549684
Praise Allah. The Caliphate shall reemerge stronger than ever, the Kurds will be slaughtered for their insolence!

>>130549701
ok, makes sense

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>>130549278
>t. sandnigger with pube beard, short round face and sunken nose bridge

>>130549889
/sg/ is a board of peace, don't.

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>>130549964
>attention
What true autist lol. We can fuck dolans up pol is mostly behind us

>>130542012
>targetting ISIS then shooting SAA
next time they said aiming damascus and landing the Trident on pyongyang.

>>130549496
>one is targeting civilians
>one is targeting terrorists

>>130549953
20,000 soldiers versus hundreds of thousands that are supported by the largest military powers on Earth. When Muslims wake up and join the Caliphate, launching attacks in their communities and converting their children, we will look back upon this period as a time of toil!

>>130550458
>ISIS are innocent civilians
>There are civilians in Idlib

>>130549816

Looks fun but a barrel bombing sim would be so much more entertaining.

Any indydevs watching this thread or shitposting in it please make it happen with a full /sg/ mode.

>>130550573
>ISIS are innocent civilians
*slow clap

>>130549889
we don't raid! stop it

>>130549889
If you're gonna raid it, do it via proxy - use leftypol, pagans or nsg or try to rally people in separate pol thread. Do not involve /sg/ in it however.

This way we can raid while maintaing a staus of a peaceful dudes.

>>130550319
kys, we're not interested in petty /pol/ drama

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>>130550173
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E34uFvat4EE

#NUKEMECCA

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>>130550008
Well a bit of shitposting there, but /ptg will be burried in shit completely

>>130542012
>I dream for a nuclear Christmas
The day the american empire collapse the world will take a sigh of relief

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>>130550458
Except for the massive civilian death toll in Raqqa from american bombs.
Bombing in urban environments kills civilians. But apparently its only bad when Assad does it.

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>>130542175

GREAT !

>b-but the SAA has a plot with ISIS.
>i read this on a pro FSA twitter account
>mfw

>>130550717
not going defend the burger, but market crash in those level ain't something you wish for.

>>130550319
It just brings shills in and derails our thread, also /pol/ is full on Donald Plebbitors to a large extent, who cares if the others are behind us or not.

>>130549496
>that pic

Heh. Now I want a macro comparing a Daisy Cutter and a tactical nuke, telling me that the two are totally the same because they are unguided and produce similar mushroom clouds.

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>>130549684
allahu akbar

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>>130550903

>>130550903

>>130550903

>>130550903

>>130546039
>hiding the Israeli flag under confederate flag
nice try CTR

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>>130550458
>one is targeting civilians
HHAHAHAHAHAHA
>one is targeting terrorists
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Oh I did not know that you have bombs which refuse to be dropped when a civilian is in the detonation radius.
t. fat magapede shart in mart dumb as shit

>>130549816
Awesome. I love autistically realistic sims.

>>130546264
>its not rocket science
It is LITERALLY rocket science

>>130550717
yea isis will ya fuck

>>130550690
>/ptg will be burried in shit completely
No we will, /ptg/ is already buried in shit.

>>130547307
>hellshock
What is this
I even found the original artist for most of these
Where is the anime