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When transgemderism falls out of style and the mass suicides

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A girl I was friends with in high school came out as trans today, bros. It disturbs me because this is one of the smartest people I know, and the fact that even the most intelligent elites of our society buy into this trend that will ultimately result in the mass suicides of thousands who will fall into depression after receiving the body mutilating surgeries they so desperately crave. Is transgenderism the death of the modern world, guys? Sure a lot of these people are misguided, but they would still make decent future doctors, scientists and officials undoubtedly. What will their loss mean for the developed world? I fear for humanity.
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>>129291852
>A girl I was friends with in high school
>High school
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it's just a mental disorder that isn't addressed because the jews love what it's doing to Christianity
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>>129292024
Ironically her family is jewish
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>>129291852
>they would still make decent future doctors, scientists and officials undoubtedly
Trans people can still do these things.

>mass suicides of thousands who will fall into depression after receiving the body mutilating surgeries
Transitioning doesn't make trans people suicidal and depressed, depression and being suicidal usually come first.
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>>129292807
This, but transtrenders don't actually have gender dysphoria and thus don't have the suicidal tendencys and depression that comes with it that keeps actual trans suicide rates high
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>>129291852
do FtM have as high a suicide rate as MtF? I would assume that it's way easier to transition to a man. Just shoot yourself full of steroids and have at it.
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>>129292807
depression is a choice

complaining about the sex organs you were BORN with is lunacy
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>>129292807
>>129293024
>>129293039

You would think that any mental condition with this high of a rate of suicide would be very unpopular and avoided. Putting aside the whole "muh true self" and "trapped in my own body" spiel, why is gender dysphoria treated with such acceptance?

>>129293073

also this
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>>129293024
A transtrender without dysphoria is likely to have regrets if they do something permanent to themselves. I'm not sure how common that really is.
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>>129291852
repeat a lie enough and people will believe it.
if everyone is tells you that you are just remembering the past wrong, or this is how things "should be", how do you combat that? gas lighting works on just about everyone when they aren't looking paying attention.
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>>129293674
I never accepted it. I hate transtrenders and I don't think transgender people should be given what they want and instead the mental disease of gender dysphoria should be addressed.

Nice job putting words in peoples mouths for just giving you a reason
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>>129293039
Testosterone is more powerful after puberty. An FtM will often end up as a manlet but will have an easier time looking masculine. Starting hormones earlier helps a lot. I'm not sure about the relative suicide rates.
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Why do you anons think that the mental disorder is not addressed?
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>>129293674
>why is gender dysphoria treated with such acceptance
Gender dysphoria can't be helped and can be a worse hell than you can probably imagine. You can't just make it go away either. Only transitioning helps.
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>>129294344

The massive wave of accepted mutilation is a major factor.
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>>129292068
They'll expect some of their own in the fire.
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>>129294417
psychiatric help?
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>>129294344
Because the only treatment is something that still leaves them in the same boat towards suicide. The actual mental disease isn't being treated, we are just letting people succumb to it, therefore it is not addressed.
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>>129293918
>I never accepted it. I hate transtrenders and I don't think transgender people should be given what they want and instead the mental disease of gender dysphoria should be addressed.
Forget transtrenders. There is only one way to deal with gender dysphoria - transitioning. There is no other option. You have no choice but to accept the existence of trans people because it's a life and death issue. You're dealing with people who can get to the point of having nothing to lose.
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>>129291852
The natural selection will sort it our eventually. If, over a big period of time, trans genderism will lead to significant disadvantage, it will go extinct, If not, than not.
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>>129294417

So the only way to treat a disease specifically centered on being dissatisfied with your sex is to get cosmetic surgery and pretend to be that sex? That is the most backwards ass logic I have ever heard.
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>>129294522
Medical help. HRT and surgeries. There is no psychiatric cure or help for gender dysphoria. It's only useful for dealing with the depression, anxiety, and insecurity that accompany dysphoria.
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>>129294679
why has a massive rise in the number of transgender people happened in the past few years? what did people in the early 1900s do about this dilemma? there has to be another option other than transforming or killing them selves
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the movement is self-correcting, just like the hippies killed themselves this will regress back to the mean
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>>129292807
>depression and suicide usually come first
And after they get the mutilating surgeries they crave and the novelty of it wears off, what then? You think anyone's going to be mentally stable after realizing they've destroyed their body beyond the point of recompense?
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>>129291852
I can't see the problem here.
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>>129291852
You can call up your female friend who's now a guy, ask "him" if "he" wants to hook-up, therefore allowing you to fuck a guy without being gay

You know what you must do OP
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>>129294772
It's not about logic, it's about reality. There is nothing else you can do about it.
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>>129294499
Yeah, they'll be there waiting.
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The world laughs and sighs with relief
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>>129293073
If you have a micropenis wouldn't you be better off larping as a girl than evolving into an r9fag?
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>>129294679
So you would rather people live with such a disorder rather then try to find a way to cure it? Transitioning isn't a cure, its a workaround that still leads to suicide. I'd rather people feel comfortable in their body without need to transition and not want to kill themselves.
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>>129295074
>fuck a guy
>not gay
I hate this shitty ass trans timeline
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>>129294901
Repressed it.

More people are coming out because it is starting to be more accepted

>/pol/ is this retarded
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>>129295082
see
>>129294981


If that is your retort, then why support the transitioning all? They're gonna commit sudoku eventually.
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Lol so you didn't ram that Jewess? Let's focus on the REAL issue here, OP is a beta cuck therefore allowing transgenderism to proliferate
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>>129295287
Yeah but "he's" not a "guy", "yet".
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>>129295287
>It's not gay if the girl happens to have a penis
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>>129292807
There are a lot of post-op suicides, m8
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>>129295301
this thread is going round in circles
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>>129293899
You combat it with righteous persistence friend. Don't give up and don't sleep through your day. If you hear close ones spouting this nonsense then knock them out of it and don't be scared to argue your point, if it's right it'll be easy.
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>>129295531
I want to turn my little brother into a femboy
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>>129295301
>they repressed it
>no notable suicide rates among that community

>transitioning is the only option!
>mass suicide in the community
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>>129292024
>ression after receiving the body mutilating surgeries they so desperately crave. Is transgenderism the death of the modern world, guys? Sure a lot of these people are misguided, but they would still make decent future doctors, scientists and officials undoubtedly. What will their loss mean for the developed world? I fear for humanity.

>mfs this is history for the last 2000 years

Pilate was distressed
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>>129294901
>why has a massive rise in the number of transgender people happened in the past few years?
There's more publicity now, that's all. I don't know what people did in the early 20th century but I know in the 20s there were experimental surgeries. I imagine trans people would often kill themselves, resort to self-mutilation, maybe eat animal ovaries/testicles as a type of primitive HRT.

The thing is that now that people know about gender dysphoria and how to treat it medically, a lot of people who would have suffered without knowing what was wrong with them can now get help and have hope for some kind of a life. Hating on trans people just makes it harder. For the most part trans people don't want trouble, and giving them trouble makes it harder for everyone.

A lot of people think they can basically bully trans people out of their gender dysphoria, but that doesn't work, it just makes trans people more depressed and dysfunctional. It has nothing to do with parents and how they raise their kids either.

You can fight trans people and make them more miserable and dysfunctional, or you can if not accept them at least tolerate them. If they don't feel so harassed by society, they're more likely to be functional members of society.
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Op didn't have the balls to miscegenate with our women...this downfall
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>>129294981
If someone has gender dysphoria then there is no problem, they'll just live their lives. This study:
dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.sexol.2006.04.002
Shows a drop in suicide rates.
Transtrenders could have problems but someone with gender dysphoria is going to feel dramatically better about their body and will be more stable. More social acceptance helps trans people be more functional and stable.
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>>129295722

Well I don't know what else to tell you. If there was some magical cure to make me feel normal I would take it.
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>>129295167
Don't you have some a pair of twin boys to force to mutual molestation?
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>>129295394
She dated a buddy of mine all through that time, but they broke up just cause she wasn't feeling the relationship anymore. Then she went to dating chicks, then two years later she decides she's a dude named Calvin and says she was a dude the whole time. I suppose her coming out as a dude isn't the really disturbing part so much of the amount of people who accept her delusions. I want off this ride bros, so bad.
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>>129291852

Let her go through it, it's none of your business and stop lieing to yourself that you're concerned about mankind's future LOL!

You're just using 4chan to push your agenda like everyone else.
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>>129296109
No?
I'm just saying Transitioning would be better than being a fat neckbeard 4channer
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>>129296171
Fuck his pussy
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>>129296327
In the end, all women are whores
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>>129295184
Suicide is a meme that is not true. Stop with the BS. There is zero evidence for mass suicides among transitioned trans people. The only way for someone with gender dysphoria to feel comfortable with their body is to transition, period. Dysphoria probably arises from brain structures that are set before birth. How are you going to cure that? By some kind of brain surgery that's beyond our capabilities? HRT and costmetic/reconstructive surgery are possible now, brain surgery to cure dysphoria is science fiction. Anyway, given a choice, I bet most people with gender dysphoria would choose to transition rather than get the nonexistent brain surgery.
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>>129295707
Why is it always a leaf?

Queer incest, this is what the Jews have done to this fucking poor leaf who is probably brainwashed from jacking off 3-5 times a day to his ever degrading porn addiction.

Stop jacking off, lift some weights, talk to some real women, and for fucks sake go clean your room and sort yourself out faggot.
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>>129295342
>If that is your retort, then why support the transitioning all? They're gonna commit sudoku eventually.
Because it helps. Your suicide meme is BS.
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>>129294901
Androgeny and queerness in a society are signs of it's impending end.
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>>129291852
>this is one of the smartest people I know
>A girl
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>>129296413

stop reading from a script, faggot
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>>129296427
It's only incest if a babby is form
Bro/bro, dad/son, grandpa/grandson, cousin/cousin, uncle/nephew isn't incest because there will be no offspring
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>>129295485
>There are a lot of post-op suicides, m8
dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.sexol.2006.04.002
Attempt rates drop.
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>>129291852
>this is one of the smartest people I know
kek your life on the short bus
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>>129291852
Mass? Damn OP, there must be a lot more transgenders out there than fact suggests. You sure this just isn't your little wet dream that the world is filled with transgenders?
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>>129294344
because Satan is lord of this earth
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>>129291852
The suicides are what ((they)) intended.
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>>129296507
Praise be to kek.
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>>129295731
>mfs this is history for the last 2000 years

Can someone explain this? When did previous civilizations have a huge rise in transgenderism or similar illnesses? What happened?
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>>129295525
>this thread is going round in circles
Because /pol/ isn't interested in facts and reality, only in endlessly repeating stale anti-trans memes. People here like to think they're so smart, they could prove it by actually learning something.
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>>129296612
Because success rates increase.
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>>129296568
well put, come back to bed, dad
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>>129295342
Supporting the transitions are what will finally get people to realize trans people arent going to be happy one way or another and when the suicide rates remain unchanged (currently higher than that of veterans) maybe society will wake the fuck up and stop welcoming this disease with open arms.
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>>129296864
I'm not done leafpost kiddo, but you can get the maple syrup straight from the tap if you want
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>>129296690
This. Suicides and the prevention of breeding.
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>>129295722
BS meme. Transitioning often happens because one is suicidal over dysphoria.
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>>129296476
>Your suicide meme is BS.

Wew lad. I knew y'all reject reality, but I didn't realize it was to such an extent!

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/AFSP-Williams-Suicide-Report-Final.pdf
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>>129296841
>Because success rates increase.
Cite please.
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>>129296678
And the Synagouge of Satan is the main boss. However, God smile upon his Aryan ubermensch heroes in their never ending quest to squelch degeneracy once and for all
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>>129291852
It's not going to fall out of style. Androgyny is happening. Many "men" look like boys and fall into the realm of "androgyny". Maybe it's the water... Who knows? Maybe some guys are being more in tune with the circumstances they're given. It's not going away.

>mfw this is considered feminine on /pol/
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>>129297268
>Magic sky man meme
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>mfw
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>>129296678
Who gives two shits about religion? Homosexuality is one thing well documented in the natural world, but what sane animal willingly mutilates itself to imitate the opposite sex? We're not talking about defying Christ or any other religion, were talking about the defiance of natural order and reason.
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>and wtf mfw
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>>129297057
That survey is for self-reported lifetime suicide attempts and not about completed suicides or changes with transitioning and surgery. No one is denying that suicidal ideation is high in those with gender dysphoria. The false meme is that people with gender dysphoria are worse off and more suicidal after transitioning. That survey does not address the timing issue.
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>>129297558
I still look like a young boy but I don't look like a girl, that's a whole other line entirely. It's virtually impossible for a male to actually look like a female unles they're trying to.
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>>129297764
>punch
What does the rest of the shirt say?
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The truth about the transgender issue is it doesn't really exist. It didn't even exist a decade ago. Sure there were a couple of fags who dressed up like chicks, but those were just transvestites and they weren't so mentally ill to think they were actually women.
Over the past decade this insane theory of gender malleability has gained prominence and weak minded and opportunistic neurotics have latched onto it for any number of reasons. Some see it as the reason they're unhappy and a clear action to take to make them better. Some need attention and see it as a way to be a part of a group for the first time. Some want victim status for social power. Etcetera, etcetera. There will be as many reasons as there are people, but the PRIMARY reason is that it has become a popular fad. This has caused the barrier of entry for such behavior to drop to such a level as to make it a realistic choice for these poor people. That's the root problem.
Something that pisses me off is this talk about how dick chopping surgery is the "only treatment available". Bullshit. It's bodily mutilation and reinforces their delusions. If we had a rash of people who thought they were napolean the "only treatment" wouldn't be to give them all hats and sceptres. The only treatment would be to put them into mental institutions where they could become well again.

The society-wide "acceptance" of this behavior is really just apathy and lack of community. Nobody cares enough about these people to give them tough love and force them to look at reality. Instead we celebrate them for a day when they come out, and then ignore them as they spiral into drug abuse and eventual suicide.

TLDR; fuck trans faggots
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>>129297003
>>129296831
>>129296612
>>129296476
>>129296413
>>129296413
>>129296066
>>129296066

Even if the suicide statistics have dropped, why would you still tolerate accepting this condition? There is still a major chance of that individual committing suicide either way. Why should anyone tolerate that? Why would you intentionally persuade someone into something you KNOW has a correlation with suicide?
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>>129297948
>Tfw 23 but mistaken for 19
>Tfw sometimes asked for id
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>>129297948
Most of looking like a female is in the makeup. That's my point. The vast majority of them look like ugly dudes without it. Some even end up looking MORE masculine
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>>129296427
Kill yourself for defending this vile shit you scumbag. You are a brainwashed tool
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>>129297948
And no it isn't impossible. You need to work on makeup. Chicks dedicate their whole existence to it. It's basically the sole reason they ever get fucked in the first place
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>>129296427
I wish I had Harry Potter sorting hat memes for posters like you
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>>129298080
I secretly only give a fuck about non degenerate white people. Can I had community naow?
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>>129298399
That's an insult to alcohol.
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>>129298080
>Something that pisses me off is this talk about how dick chopping surgery is the "only treatment available".

I once asked a tranny if they would accept a true, neurological cure that essentially would solve the problem in their mind. They said no, but also said that its been "looked into" and its not possible. What pile of horse shit. The cure for cancer still hasnt been found but that doesnt mean medical research has stopped.

I can definitely understand and sympathize with people who truly feel "in the wrong body" but the surgery just seems like a sloppy, makeshift solution that doesnt really fix the underlying problem. Curing the mental illness would be much more effective. Sometimes it even seems like many trannies just want to dress as the opposite sex while collecting sympathy points.
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>>129293674
>You would think that any mental condition with this high of a rate of suicide
Honestly, this may even make it more appealing to them. Bonus victim points.
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>>129298399
Makeup is just as evil as beauty surgeries. It fakes ones' genetic quality and thus contributes to dysgenics.
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>>129298855
But it's true though man. Makeup changes people completely if they're good at it: whether male or female and not at the two extremes of masculine and feminine.
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>>129298855
>Tfw mtf trannies use make up that uses foreskins thus making them more 'male' than 'female'
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>>129298080
>It didn't even exist a decade ago
No, HRT and surgeries have been around since at least the 60s, and there were experiments before then. Treatment was fairly standardized by the 80s.

>theory of gender malleability
Real trans people, not trenders, see gender identity as innate. There is research backing this up:
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/840538_3

>dick chopping surgery is the "only treatment available
HRT is the main treatment. An MtF won't necessarily get SRS but if not will probably get an orchiectomy if they don't want SRS. FtMs will almost always get their breasts removed.

>a rash of people who thought they were napolean
Another stale /pol/ meme. Gender dysphoria is not a delusion. Try to educate yourself.

>tough love and force them to look at reality
Tough love is extremely common and it just makes people with dysphoria more miserable and dysfunctional. Bullying trans people makes them and everyone else worse off. Get a clue. You have no choice but to live with it because there is not a single thing you can do to stop it. Suck it up and deal with reality.
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>>129292024
>christianity
>white

pick one
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>>129298972
post yfw the one on the left somehow looks more feminine than the left one
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>>129299024
right one* fuck it you get it
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Everyone who identifies as 'transgender' needs psychological re-conditioning NB4 'there's no psychiatric help available', that's only because we haven't invested any time or money into developing a method for conditioning gender dysphoria away.
Giving people with gender dysphoria surgeries to reinforce their delusions about being born the wrong way is like giving meth addicts meth to help them with their meth addiction.
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>>129298101
>Why should anyone tolerate that?
Because it helps and because you have no choice but to tolerate it. Trans people will always be with you and they will transition whether you like it or not. You can fight it and make yourself and trans people miserable, or you can learn to deal with it.
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>>129298257
>Most of looking like a female is in the makeup.
Lots of celebs look terrible without makeup.
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>>129299024
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>>129298855
>Makeup is just as evil as beauty surgeries.
Good luck getting women to give up makeup!
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>>129299186
>You have no choice
Alternatively, we could just kill all of them.
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>tfw every femboy I meet has a massive penis
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>>129299273
ALL women look terrible without makeup faggot. They look like boyish androgynous men
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>>129299442
this is a problem why?
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>>129299018
He never even made mention of whiteness.
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>>129299444
Boys are considered to be rather attractive
Checked
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>>129299427
>Alternatively, we could just kill all of them.
But more will be born all the time. The slaughter will have to continue endlessly. Good luck with that.
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>>129299564
Or we could ignore them and let them kill themselves.
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>>129298742
>the wrong body

In that case i'm a trans Conan the Barbarian. I need to get a script for tren and hgh.

This wrong body notion is built on the idea that there is such a thing as a masculine mind or a feminine mind. Men have brains that make them want to be fire fighters and girls have brains that make them want to be princesses and get held down and fucked.
NEVERMIND that this completely contradicts one of the pillars of the lib mindset which is gender/race equivalence. But of course they play fast and loose with their arguments because under any scrutiny it becomes obvious that they're just sophomoric rationalizations.

What most people need to know about this phenomenon is that mental illness is contagious via the process of socialization. Look up the laughing disease that occurred in Africa, or the spate of split personality disorders that occurred after the (((theoretical))) disorder became popularized in tv and movies.

The tranny shit that is going on is a tragic fad even worse than the gay fad. The gays may be taking themselves out the gene pool and wasting themselves with drugs and insane diseases, but they aren't physically mutilating themselves.

The right thing to do is to mock these people and shame them. Raise the social barrier of entry to this behavior so they'll be forced to seek real solutions to their problems.
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>>129299427
The homosex gene and likely trans issue stems from women
Thus by your logic, we should kill all women which would just leave us with men
The more dominant type of said men will subjugate the weaker men and turn the weakest into women so they can have release while being """straight""" and the mid tier of men will just be Roman gay.

No matter what you end up with gays and trannies
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Why would a woman want to become a man in todays society?
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>>129291852
It's just a phase

this mass adoption of trans shit is just a materialistic fad.

it will die out but most people will just disregard what they ostensibly held dear once they grow out of it. actual trannies will continue to lead their sad, sick lives.
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>>129299647
And when they don't all kill themselves, what then?
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>>129299821
Because they're retarded and the ugliest of the ugliest and hate their nasty hole (thanks Freud)

>mfw even an ugly chick with a penis is better
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>>129300006
I have no idea if this bitch has a penis though. Could be an ugly chick. Who knows?
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Imagine the hair shorter on the left.

>mfw that's a man with a vagina
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>>129300064
If she did I'd suck it
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>>129300282
Rebbit pls go and stay go
Downboat
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>>129299010
I'm not even going to address the reddit spacing in your post.

Here's the thing faggot: you are wrapped up in a delusion. You believe that this is real, and you can cherry pick studies that you don't fully understand chapter and verse. But the truth of the matter is that you are weak. There is something that you can't face, and it's easier to change who you are physically than to change who you are mentally. You think this will help, but the underlying issues will remain.

It's like somebody who is a fuck up moving to another town to start over and then fucking up all over again. You can't run from your problems if it's you who are the problem.

You are fucked up. You are deluded. That's fine, because your life doesn't matter, but you are normalizing this behavior and making it easier for other lost and confused people to join you in your misery.
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>>129299774
>contradicts one of the pillars of the lib mindset which is gender/race equivalence
Transgender is not a liberal invention. There is evidence that gender identity has roots in prenatal brain development. Real trans people usually see gender as innate and don't buy into the idea of gender as a social construct.

>The right thing to do is to mock these people and shame them
As if this hasn't been going on for ages. It doesn't work, it doesn't stop gender dysphoria, it just makes trans people more miserable. This mocking and shaming is a big reason for the high reported rate of suicide attempts. The real solution exists: HRT and transitioning. Smart people know this.
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>>129300372
That's what I'm saying. Most people are somewhere in between. Some faggots are just born in between and end up looking androgynous and feminine. Throw on makeup, a tan, and all that shit and wallah.... a fucking chick
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>>129299916
>It's just a phase
No it isn't. You don't seem to be aware that this is not new and isn't going to go away.
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>>129300711
t. transfaggot who's all in
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>>129291852
>falls out of style
Lel it dosnt even need to fall out of style, most are still in there 20's now thinking they will be plump and jucy forever, but once they hit mid 30's and they turn into Iggy Pop over night and hormones are started to be rejected by the body they usually off them selves.
Just nature taking it;s course
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>>129291852
https://youtu.be/Hxqhji3b2ow
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>>129300820
>hormones are started to be rejected by the body
Does not happen.
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>>129301000
lol naive.

take a look at the complications surrounding the proceedures.

Such controversy much death very wow
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>>129295722
This.
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>>129298101
>People tend to die because of cancer
>Lot's of people cured of cancer can still die of cancer later in life

Why should we give people cancer treatment anon?
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>>129295722
https://youtu.be/LP2ixEtS_VQ
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>>129298742
>The cure for cancer still hasnt been found but that doesnt mean medical research has stopped.
Research is being done into the neurological basis of gender identity and dysphoria, but it's hard to study the brain in enough detail. MRIs only show so much, and research is expensive. If you do figure out what's going on in the brain, then what? Some kind of science fiction neurosurgery? Finding a neurological cure isn't a priority because there's unlikely to be one that's even remotely practical. In the meantime existing treatments help, and early transitioning works even better than adult transitioning.
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>>129299444
...
Anon I think you've confused normal women, for women caked in 50 tonnes of makeup, and now think normal women look like men.
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>>129298080
This.
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>>129301311

The ones who kill themselves are the ones who are ugly as both males and females. They end up as a 4/10 chick. They just give up trying in today's world. But what if it was all male?

>mfw all these girls were traps
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>>129301161
>take a look at the complications surrounding the proceedures.
Like what? All procedures have complications but they're not at unacceptable levels or people wouldn't still be doing them. There is not much death.
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But seriously, most people, both male and female look alike in the face if you compare them completely bald. The only thing that makes a man want to fuck a woman is in their hips, ass and boobs.
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i cant imagine transfaggotry dying out unless you enact a putin-style antipropaganda law

until you can make that happen, enjoy your increase degenerate transfaggot western society

>tfw live in a country where trannies are burnt as witches

feels good man
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>>129302079
maybe kike women look like that, others don't shlomo
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>>129300581
However, gender dysphoria is a thing.
Nature appears to win out over nurture.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer

Meaning there may be some kind of validity, it isn't just a new trend it's been going on for years as the other anon said, sure most people going around saying "ermagawd am tranny, respact meh" are doing it for attention or those victim points.
But it definitely does seem to be a thing, berating people doesn't seem like a good option either, HRT has been medically proven to have good results, so why not let people get that treatment while it's the best available?
Cosmetic surgery is a fucking meme that idiots fall for.
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>>129302130
>tfw live in a country where people poo in the loo

feels good man
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>>129302079
>what is sexual dimorphism
men and women look nothing alike if they are properly developed
I suggest to stop basing your theories on the looks of twinky and butch millenials
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>>129296797
I think the second last Roman emperor before the crisis of the 3rd Century was maybe trans. He got assassinated after 2 years.
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>>129302306
So i think you're misunderstanding me. I'm saying it's good that they kill themselves and bad that we enable them. They're already done for, and there is no helping them once they take the drugs or go under the knife. What we can do is stop the bleeding on a societal level.
See a kid acting like a twink? Bully him until he doesn't do it anymore. Don't allow this behavior to be socially acceptable, and all of a sudden it will be like the 2000's again i.e. before the invention of this fad.
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>>129302853
>Bully him
>t. Repressed faggot who was bullied
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>>129302555
Not really dude. That's the way millennials are going. There really might be chemicals in the water, but what can you do? Maybe we're fucked up somehow?
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>>129302853
But they can be helped.
HRT is proven to reduce the suicide rates.

This is like saying the method to stop cancer is to kill everyone with cancer.
Or with any disease.
See someone with dementia? Bully them into suicide because that's how we fix dementia.
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>>129302439
>country devolves into a bunch of roided queers with mutilated genitals
>"p-poo in loo, pajeet"
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>>129302853
>it will be like the 2000's again i.e. before the invention of this fad.
But people were transitioning and getting SRS way before then. They were getting bullied mercilessly too.

tfw people are clueless about history.
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>>129302957
All you queers project so damn much. Do you know why it was fine to say faggot in the 90's? Because nobody had ever met a fag before. There were only a few thousand of you before you started warping the youth.
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>>129291852
dumb frogposter
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>>129302957
WE
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>>129291852
She's a tomboy that thinks she's a man because she doesn't have girly interests. Try to convince her that she can never truly be a man, and that hormones will fuck her intelligence. Show her pictures of post op ftm dicks.
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>>129302982
But seriously I need answers on this from /pol/. Why do I look like an androgynous faggot? I don't even take HRT or anything. Even if I work out I'll just end up looking like a butch chick
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>>129295722
Probably since people in previous centuries experienced much more hardship and their "gender identity" was the least of their issues.
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>>129291852
Most of the smart ones will grow out of it. They just need to be prevented from taking hormones and going through surgery.
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>>129303218
>Projecting
I seem to have upset you, might it be because you do have repressed homosex tendencies? You wouldn't need to have such an aggressive stance on the subject if that was not the case
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>>129303661
Maybe you should get some tests done. Seriously. Maybe you have low test levels or some genetic condition.
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>>129303975
>being so young that you think saying the word faggot means you're upset

I'm comfy as can be leaf. I know I won't reach you.
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>>129304355
>Misinterpreting the post then pulling some shit response out while reaffirming how 'straight' you are
Come on anon, you know you want some hairy man ass. Get knocked up with a poz load too
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>mfw no one answers my plea

Forever a faggot and there's nothing I can do really.

>mfw my last girlfriend told me I had a better hourglass figure than her and then broke up with me

>>129304165

I might, but at this point it's basically set. There's not much I can do now. I'm fine with androgyny. I've even got called 10 years old in the face from a test here despite being in my early 20s.

My face looks exactly like my female ancestors when they were in their teens from old pics I've seen.

JUST

http://www.pictriev.com/

It's hopeless now desu.
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>>129291852
>Sure a lot of these people are misguided, but they would still make decent future doctors, scientists and officials undoubtedly. What will their loss mean for the developed world? I fear for humanity.

Stupid tranny, KYS. The world advanced this far without caring about such degenerates.

Suicide ends weakness.

No one of value is weak.
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>>129304549
>>>/lgbt/
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>>129303770
>Most of the smart ones will grow out of it
No, if you still have gender dysphoria after you start puberty it almost always gets worse over time. It has nothing to do with how smart you are. Gender dysphoria, when it's bad enough, is like a cancer that will destroy you if you don't at least get on HRT.

Think of it this way. Puberty is rough for almost everyone, but for someone with gender dysphoria, it's far worse. An MtF brain reacts badly to testosterone, and likewise with estrogens for an FtM, and you feel like your body is being destroyed by hormones. Getting test blocked and getting on estrogens (and sometimes progesterone) for MtFs and testosterone for FtMs can halt the downward spiral and start improving things physically and mentally.
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>>129304683
fuck off. there's nothing i can do if my face and body looks like a bitch. and at this point....... i don't care.
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>>129299024
the one on the right looks like a drag
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>>129291852
I believe the strategic alphabet agents running the show used traps (and other golems) to swing the pendulum. It's time to restore balance, and easily because our interests are aligned with said strategists in charge.
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>>129299162
It amazes me that people still trust anonymous sources.
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>>129304800
Yeah. Some chicks do it too much and end up looking like males in drag. Most of it's in the makeup
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>>129304791
Become a femboy desu. Girls love femboys
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>>129304549
>It's hopeless now desu.
Well, don't give up. Even if there's nothing that can be done, at least if you know what's going on it might help you accept yourself. It does sound like you might have a medical/genetic condition.
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>>129294679
> t. random person on the internet
It's death all the way around for them.
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>>129304549
It happens when your mom doesn't take enough hot loads during pregnancy to increase your base testosterone.
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>>129294679

>You have no choice but to accept the existence of trans people because it's a life and death issue.

on the day of the rope it sure will be :)
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>>129305151
I'm already that. I don't care about girls really, but I'm growing my hair out now. I'm gonna work on makeup skill hardcore and do this basically, because I know I could.

>>129305306

Being a man is hopeless for me. Some of us just can't... My body just looks like an androgynous bitch and there's nothing I can do now
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>>129294901

porn, chemicals, social engineering

the obvious tranny freak arguing for them in this thread would off himself if he accepted the truth

this shit also starts to spread like a plague when your civilization is about to collapse
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>>129299444
ur gay
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>>129305406
You're going to need a lot of ropes.
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>>129305477
Let me love your bussy
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>>129305541

the people will use a lot more than ropes faggot, thanks for looking out though
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>>129291852
I know multiple transgender people and they've been happier than I've seen them in 10+ years leading up to them coming out and beginning to transition. The only negatives they've had about the process revolves entirely around people treating them like shit purely because they're trans in one way or another. All the same, they're friends and I'm glad to see them happy, and some of them are even becoming genuine qt3.14s
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>>129305477
>Being a man is hopeless for me. Some of us just can't.
The weird thing is that if you were trans there'd actually be more you could do about it and your path foward would be clear. Since you aren't trans you'll have to experiment to see what works for you.
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>>129294901
Peak trans 2017.
Peak rollerblades 1995.
No one can really say why.
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>>129305527

I'm sorry......... I want to be a man, but I can't. I'm too boyish low test looking. I look fucking 10 years old apparently when I smile on here

http://www.pictriev.com/

>>129305575

well, I hope to be a beautiful faggot

>>129306037

I don't really want to be trans, but my body and face is just pure faggot. From here I'm just gonna grow my hair out, try out makeup, and see what I look like and go from there.
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The left has a difficult time keeping politics and circus side shows separate.
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>>129306179
10 years old eh?
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>>129294417
Go back to plebbit, trapfag.
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>>129306281
100% serious

Keep in mind this is without makeup
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>>129306394
>Erection intensifies
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>>129293674
Because it is glorified everywhere people look for no reason. Oh how brave of you. Look at this courageous person standing up to oppression. Look at all the attention you will get. Look at all these famous people who portray your disease on tv and how good looking and rich they are.

People are fucking stupid and easily manipulated.

There is no way this kind of explosive behavior happens over such a short period of time. I know the internet helps crazy people find other crazy people for support but I don't think that is the case. It might be something in the food/water that is making these people have something fucked in their heads or bodies but that still doesn't explain such a boom. There must be an underlying system supporting it and as far as I can tell that is everyone else who is unwilling to say that these people are insane.

People shouldn't be catering to their delusions.

And yet they go to school and come back trans because it is trendy and they want cool instagram likes or oppression points or whatever so why not cut off my dick for attention.

Family breaking down and society raising your kids is not going to end well. Parents raise your kids and explain how the world works. You don't get to scream for attention to get what you want and have people believe your stories after you are out of elementary school.
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>>129306179
>I don't really want to be trans, but my body and face is just pure faggot. From here I'm just gonna grow my hair out, try out makeup, and see what I look like and go from there.
Only go trans if that's right for you. Your hopelessness and unhappiness with your body sound dysphoric, though you're more upset that you're not more masculine. Most MtFs would be totally jealous of your body.

Anyway, go ahead and experiment, and if it works for you, go with it.
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>>129306507
k. I knew there was a reason super masculine guys stared at me all the time

I'm gonna stop denying it. I seriously look like my female ancestors when they were in their early teens. Probably could translate well to a feminine faggot.

Can't do anything about it

>>129306888

I'm gonna try putting on makeup tonight. I've worn stage makeup in plays before, but that's a little different.
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>>129307206
People like legal shotas
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>>129307275
>>129307206
>Tfw no legal shota bf
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>>129307275
I went out today and walked and a guy stared at me (without makeup on). My hair is at the awkward stage where it's not quite long enough and I have to keep pushing it back behind my ears. Annoys me. I want it longer
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>>129306817
>People shouldn't be catering to their delusions
If gender dysphoria were a delusion then there wouldn't be dysphoria. With a true delusion you'd expect to have people who literally believe they are the opposite sex. There'd be no dysphoria since they wouldn't be aware of a mismatch between their body and what the brain perceives.

With gender dysphoria there's a painful awareness of the mismatch between one's body and one's gender identity. Dysphoria usually intensifies during puberty because of the awareness of the changes your body is going through. This is not a delusion. The awareness of reality is actually extremely painful.
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>>129307544
Get a cute short haired girl cut. Less work to maintain
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>>129291852
>When transgemderism falls out of style and the mass suicides occur, what then?


I'll buy a shovel.
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>>129307635
I like long hair. It's cuter. I want to let it grow out, but I don't know what to do with it atm
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>>129299186

You are missing the point. If the person has actually undergone surgery to transition, and then as low as 88% grow out of it, the damage done IS enough for that person to commit suicide after realising that a catastrophic mistake was made. The TRUE numbers of people with actual gender dysphoria is about 0.03% yet there are huge numbers of trans trenders coming out who are brainwashed into believing they have a mental disorder that they do not actually have. These attention seeking retards will most likely kill themselves down the track and for now we celebrate how strong and brave they are, till they inevitably commit suicide and then blame everyone but themselves for the problems.
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>>129308029
Pony tail so you don't have to keep moving it back while you suck dick
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>>129291852
>what then?
rejoice
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>>129307573
My main point was the fact that it seems to be increasing in frequency for no reason. If it were some genetic thing or some poisonous thing we are eating it still doesn't explain the sudden explosion of people who want to suddenly be on the side of being oppressed and suicidal. That is what I was getting at with the first part about why anyone would want to choose this.

I am sure there is some mental issue involved and it is extremely painful to feel one way but know that reality is another. However...

I don't care if the guy on the street really believes he is jesus while screaming at me about the end of the world since I know he is wrong and reality is different. I will give the same amount of thought and concern about someone screeching at me about how they are a beautiful woman when reality shows it is a man with a penis and 5 o'clock shadow. I do not care about your delusions and they do not match with reality therefore they should be ignored and not catered to. If we had a magic device to grant wishes that made people be able to change gender on a whim that would be great. You can claim you are a woman by becoming a woman. Until we can solve this insanity/brain disease without bending over backward to accommodate crazy people I will not. You chose to cut off your dick you deal with the consequences. It is not my responsibility to cater to your delusional world view no matter how much it pains you. Fix your shit yourself and stop expecting others to make your shitty decisions easier for you to handle.
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>>129308517
Nice blog faggot
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>>129308687
Thanks for reading! Don't forget to like and subscribe!
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>>129308810
Jokes on you, I didn't read it
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>>129308867
It's ok if it was over your head. I just like talking. I am bored. How was your day?
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>>129308994
Well I got 3 hours of sleep followed by the shots then work and I'm still at work and I just wanna fuck cute boys
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>>129309075
Shits*
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>>129291852
profit
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>>129308089
Surgery isn't the transition. Usually transitioning is done before any surgery. Actual SRS is far from universal.

>as low as 88% grow out of it

The number who detransition is a lot lower than that. I'm too tired to dig up a cite right now.

Transtrenders are a possible problem but it is extremely unlikely they'd go the SRS route. They probably won't do more than go on HRT. I wouldn't encourage someone to go trans because it's cool or they want attention. Being trans can actually be hell especially before transitioning and in the early days of transitioning

Trans people also aren't interested in drawing a lot of attention for being trans. That's why there's so much obsession with passing. You don't want random people to know you're trans.
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>>129294499
Checked, and this.
To a jew the end justifies the means, even if its their own wife or child.
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>>129306179

you so fucked up in the head cracka, work out and eat more don't sterilize yourself and cut your cock off

you can't see why people aren't welcoming to this insanity?
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>>129308029
>I like long hair. It's cuter.
Long hair gives you a lot more options. You might want to find a good stylist to help you figure out what to do with your hair.
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>>129309282
Why would he cut his cock off. It can be a cute feminine penis
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>>129309365
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>>129309321
Longer hair is extremely cute and makes it easier to look even more feminine I think.

But seriously, how does this happun to a man body? :(
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>>129309784
I've never really looked at it before. I look so gay
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>>129309892
The thing that's the most gay is my sides. It's feminine as shit. Most guys I see don't have that.
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>>129309282
I will never cut my penis off.
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>>129309784
>But seriously, how does this happun to a man body? :(
Low testosterone? Klinefelter's? Some degree of androgen insensitivity? Do you have any breast development? You might want to get checked out.
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>>129291852
""'Trans""' shouldn't even be political.

It's only political because some bearded cross dressers decided they were 'wymmyn' and wanted access to bathrooms where little girls pee.

Those bandwagon jumpers will move on to the next leftist trend and the regular trannies will just blend in as before, nobody will care.

There are a few trannies that shill for conservatism for some reason, I'm assuming because they don't want to get fucked by beta liberal fags. Look up TarynXO https://twitter.com/empresstaryn?lang=en
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>>129309784
Estrogen in food.
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>>129310078

>most
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>>129310286

Nothing as far as I can tell. Not Klinefelter's. I'm within normal height. No breast development. Maybe low test, but that might be just the way it is. I've always had the chick indentations on my sides and a naturally thicker ass and legs. At this point it can't matter much really.

>>129310592

Probably. Oh well. Might as well be a beautiful faggot
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>>129306179
Why do '''""''"'"'"'"'''*Trans fall for this poorly coded, "computer vision" algorithm bullshit. I swear there's always some crazy transexual who wants validation through an algorithm of passing. These are all horribly made junk including the microserf and faceberg one.

If I were you, I'd read the Art of Programming, Vol 4a. In it you will find pixel recognition algorithms. You can also find them by doing CMU's Machine Learning course here http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~ninamf/courses/601sp15/video/1.html

Then you just manipulate the algorithm so that everybody who looks at it is female who doesn't have facial hair. Make boatloads of money spamming advertisements to the same "pass or nonpass" page you make. Spend the money on a new vagina implanted in your armpit or something
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>>129310712
Well, whatever it is, try to have fun!

I'm done for the night. At least I can sleep in.
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>>129310693
>most

I can't do anything about it.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>129293899
Repetition is the best form of mind control
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>>129293039
Without the right skeletal structure and height they have no way to pass. Women can get away with being deformed but not men.
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>>129314032
just lift you low test faggot
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>>129291852
dumb frogposter
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>>129320905
Yeah right
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>>129291852
it's part of population control
yes they will an hero like they already do past the age of 25 and nobody will care
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>>129291852
>Is transgenderism the death of the modern world, guys?
No. It is just the disturbing symptom of something way worse.

The west has given up on the traditional family and given in to Marxist ideals, leading to drastically declining birth rates and mentally unhealthy children.

Together with the Islamic invasion, this is the end of the west.
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>>129293039
in both cases you're making yourself infertile and fucking your brain and body up with hormones that don't belong thus forfeiting a shot at a normal life
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>>129291852
>decent future doctors, scientists and officials undoubtedly.

a doctor, an engineer, a scientist.
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Women rarely get the surgery.

They just get fat.

So when the fad ends she will just be another fat cunt.

...

Who will kill herself when she hits the wall.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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