Am I a Cuck For Favoring Nazi, Germany's Economic and Cultural

Why do you think this board turned from libertarian to national socialism? Lolbertarianism doesnt work and laissez-faire is to blame for the deep shit we are in right now.

Nazi fags are not welcome here

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>>128840205
>am i a cuck for favoring socialism

ding ding ding, we have a winner. go prep your bull, bitch boy.

>>128840205
That growth was unstainable
That's why hitler constantly had to expand for resources
German had to expand or to bust

it's because government boosted and helped the strongest businesses expand. that's different from cuck-socialism which focuses on helping the weak

>>128840205
Mate our nation fucking betrayed us and sent our forefathers to die. Nothing more to it.

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>>128840525
First time agreeing with a Canadian on here

>>128840649
Hmmm
>pic related

>>128840756
You don't know what Third Position-ism is

>>128840826
Yeah okay that's what I thought

>>128840847
How so?

When will you cucks not realize Nazism is akin to BLM.

>>128841115
How so?

>>128841175
>Having to base an idea on muh skin, muh hair and eye color.
You guys are no better then the niggers you claim you are better than.

>>128840205
They fought for what they thought was right. There's no shame in that. But after some time we've figured out we were scammed. Isn't it right to get some revenge for those who conned your grandfathers?

>>128841265
>But after some time we've figured out we were scammed
Are you fucking retarded? How did Natsoc Germany scam you?

>>128841253
You know nothing about NatSoc faggot.

Wouldn't a NatSoc regime natural crumble once a transition of power took place? What about the inevitable collapse within mere generations of collective/centralized economies?

>>128841509
I have spent a year looking into it. Its pretty much a cucked ideology right after communism.

Fuck that authoritarian shit. I prefer my freedoms.

>>128841528
>Wouldn't a NatSoc regime natural crumble once a transition of power took place?
Yeah, it would, that's why its a dumb idea

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>>128840987
>n-no, it isn't REAL socialism

yep. it's never "real" socialism. every single little socialist bitch says that. we know. we know.

>>128841901
>implying socialism is the problem
>implying it isn't marxism and bolshevism
You're at the surface level, one day you'll learn.

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>>128841901

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>>128840649
>Nazi fags are not welcome here
>>>/r/eddit
>>128840820
>That growth was unstainable
>That's why hitler constantly had to expand for resources
Im not sure how many times we have to debunk this. There's millions of versions of it too:
>debt was driving them to war
>growth was driving them to war
>sustained low unemployment was driving them to war
>not letting women work was driving them to war
>fascism had a conquest mentality driving them to war
>everyone was insane thus driving them to war
Etc, etc. Reminds me of the "women make 70 cents on a man's dollar" zombie myth that never dies: Debt as a percent of GDP was constantly shrinking (standard keynsean policy effects). Growth existed from 1934 to 1938 and is virtually a straight slope; war didn't slow or speed it up. Women only dropped 10% in the workforce, and Jews were less than 1% of the population, so their loss didn't change anything either. This must be standard bullshit they teach in schools since it never goes away.

>German GDP in Billions of Dollars:

>1938 - 351
>1939 - 384
>1940 - 387
>1941 - 412
>1942 - 417
>1943 - 426
>1944 - 437
>1945 - 310

As far as military spending, Germany barely broke the US threshold of 40% of GDP, the entire duration of the war, and spent LESS THAN THEIR RIVALS in preparation building up to war:

>CHART 9 - spending as percent of Germany GDP:

>1935: 8%
>1936: 13%
>1937: 13%
>1938: 17%
>1939: 23%

http://voxeu.org/article/macroeconomics-germany-forgotten-lesson-hjalmar-schacht
http://www.nber.org/chapters/c9480.pdf
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/nazi-germany/nazi-germany-military-expenditure/

>>128841901
>true communism was never tried before
Is what Commies always say, Natsoc was tried and it worked. You have to be smart enough to actually say the meme before you can force it, moron. kys and remove your low IQ rom the gene pool.

>>128841253
For me it's observing the decline of the American economy after the end of the 50s and progressive culture here in the US and how much it is negatively effecting us. Oh, and the Jewish meme.

>>128841265
That's very true. Thanks, anon that actually really helps.

>>128841431
I think by "We" he means the United States' soldiers were scammed into fighting the Axis

>>128841807
National Socialism isn't the same as Socialism. If you know that, how is it cucked? Isn't freedom being cucked by degeneracy?

>>128841867
>>128841528
Yeah that is a downside, but what if the transition of power happens before the previous ruler dies. It gets handed off to his son, he gets guidance from his father

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>>128840205
I was in the same boat as you, was a hard core paleocon that worshipped Calvin Coolidge, then I started to learn more. Welcome aboard, friend.
Join us over at /nsg/ sometimes

Also
>>128842725
Has it all right

>>128843058
>Yeah that is a downside, but what if the transition of power happens before the previous ruler dies. It gets handed off to his son, he gets guidance from his father
The problem with specifically natsoc Germany was that even with Hitler's one-of-a-kind personality, they barely managed to get support from Germans above 50%. If Hitler was to disappear Goebbels would've never achieved the same level of connection with the people, and everyone else in the party was a mediocre speaker at best. It would've crumbled sooner or later because it was based on personality

Also, the light of the revolution gets slowly extinguished with every next generation because they're not aware of their parents' struggles. Why would someone born after the 50s want Germany to remain natsoc? They'd all envy their free peers in the US who can say pretty much everything and can fuck everyone without the state messing with their sex life, or you know, the exact same thing that happened to the Soviet Union.

>>128841528
>>128843058
An answer to this was actually that before the war, the NatSoc's had actually planned on privatizing many things and worked towards becoming more free market. In fact they were able to privatize a lot of major industries. I would read the paper "Nazi Privatization in the thirties: Against the mainstream". A link to it can be found below

http://www.ub.edu/graap/nazi.pdf

>>128840205
Natsoc/fascism is literally NECESSARY for the European man, I have researched so much and realized it is the only way out of this mess and into stability and forward to real progress. After it is successfully implemented the countries may follow more libertarian social and economic approaches as to allow for more public individualism and socioeconomic incentive to make up for the inevitable loss of individualism of a semi collectivist ideology, always consciously reverting back to full blown natsoc/fascism should degeneracy start building up in the public spheres as the order must be maintained at all costs. This is the future. I am sure of it, I can see it so clearly.

>>128843390
>norways GDPs
whats going on there lol

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>>128842506
>>128842661
no arguments, just impotent rage from brain dead, gas huffing, untermensch retards.

>>128842725
>Natsoc was tried and it worked
>mfw this inbred moron pretends that WWII didnt happen

that's cute. what color is the sky in your fairy tale world, squirt?

>>128843390
And I thought Reagan was the best thing to happen to the US. Yeah I will, you and

>>128842725
Have convinced me. Fuck muh freedoms, natsoc is the way to go.

>>128843590
I agree, but how in the hell can we make it happen? Especially with the highest levels of degeneracy and Jewery ever...

>>128843775
Get a load of this faggot.
>Doesn't know we're discussing economic ideologies
>Doesn't know WWII defeated the Nazis, not economic policies

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>>128843431
>It would've crumbled sooner or later
>implying anything lasts forever
Every paradigm crumbles "sooner or later"; it's a nonsense thing to say. The fact that the entire world ganged up to smash it, then spent the next 70 years demonizing it so no one ever even CONSIDERED it again, is extremely telling. International finance can't permit an example of non-debt currency, or an economy divested from the international banking system, to exist and succeed. The entire world might decide to do the same thing.
>Why would someone born after the 50s want Germany to remain natsoc?
Because people who aren't subject to state sponsored demoralization, who aren't taught to be Oikophobes who hate themselves and their society by cultural Marxists, generally don't develop the same degenerate self-loathing and nihilism on their won. Who's to say they wouldn't have simply become a monarchy, or reverted to some form of democracy as in Spain? No one can say, because the project was artificially aborted by war.

>>128843775
>an economic policy succeeded
>all the countries threatened by that ganged up and wiped out said economy
>thus it "failed"
I guess anyone you lynch is a sort of "failure", at least at survival. The economic data doesn't disappear because you throw red herrings around. You can erase Germany, but its Keynsean policies were copied from the US, where they didn't include the monetary policy changes that made them so much more successful. Look, I know you desperately want what you heard in your lolbertard circle jerks and from your ecelebs to be true, so you can feel smart repeating what you heard. There's just too much empirical evidence for you to wish it away.
>fairy world
Projection lol. Trying to wish away data. Sorry, enjoy your BTFO pleb.

>>128840205
You're missing the part where average wage fell even as inflation and GNP increased as public spending went out of control.

>>128843390
>>128842725
These are only a decades worth of statistics during a time of war anon. If things stabilized, the GDP would have stagnated and certainly dropped.

>>128840205
>Nazi, Germany's Economic policies
Getting so indebted that you have to start a war in the hope of not paying the debt back?

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>>128843997
>moves the goal posts
>fails to refute history
>pretends that war isn't about economy

what an ignorant, uneducated child. 4chan is 18+ btw. you gotta fuck off for a few years, kid.

>>128844093
>more impotent rage from a gas huffing retard who wants to bury his head in the sand and pretend nazi germany wasn't an embarrassing failure

tl;dr lol.

i can see you poured your little faggot bitch heart into it, but i don't take inbred cousin fuckers who worship a dead manlet with a tiny, mutilated penis seriously. fuck off back to your safe space, stormweenie.

>>128840205
You need to read Commander Rockwell.

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>>128844148
>public spending went out of control
If spending less on public works, and less on armaments than your rivals is "out of control", what is your baseline? What in the world is your comparison point? Everyone was "out of control", but Germany the least so.
>>128844219
>only a decades worth of statistics
Is generally standard for a longitudinal study. Look up the Minnesota Adoption study, or any of the premier studies in breast cancer or IQ. Ten years is the gold standard. If you want to look at the nex closest analogue, just look at the US: Keynesean policies lasted until the 1970s. Tell me why Germany's versions of these would have diverged significantly, given the 10 years of data we have?
>>128844320
Shoosh sweetie, you're too low IQ for this convo.
>>>/b/

>>128844442
>fails to refute argument
>projects his lack of intelligence
>is desperate for his superior's attention

here's your reply, cletus.

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>>128844520
Name the 4 pillars of argumentation correctly and you'll get one more (you)

>>128844320
You're fucking retarded. I was saying >>128844093
said but I phrased it poorly.
Your arguments are literally based off memes
Fuck off

>>128844640
He's just (you) farming, he has no arguments to make.

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>>128843997
The JQ is more relevant today than it ever was, if Europe was being consumed by Islam our women raped our children slaves and I had one solitary tactical nuke of peace I would still choose to drop it in the heart of Israel. We can't treat surface problems anymore, we have to attack the source. They are the most subversive force humanity has ever known.

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>>128844611
>>128844640
>little bitch boys DESPERATELY CRAVING their superior's attention

very pathetic and a little gay. go to bed, you diaper shitting morons. men are talking.

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>>128844764
>If I had one solitary tactical nuke of peace I would still choose to drop it in the heart of Israel
That's what they plan to do if they are ever under existential threat from ANY source: nuke the West.

>>128844719
Yeah you're right

>>128844974
Interesting. I truly believe East Asians should join us in our struggle against them, this world parasitic force concerns everyone and affects everyone directly or indirectly, the Asian advantage is Jews can't pass as (((fellow people))).

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>>128845536
>the Asian advantage is Jews can't pass as (((fellow people))).
We should never combine our destinies with them through race mixing, but Asians might be the only other race Europids can ally with and trust in any way. Cautiously, of course.

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>>128844148
The Average Wage was already falling very fast before NSDAP took power, although the public's works projects didn't recover the wage in full, it did start to raise them in 1934 when it employed 1.6 million people [1] [2]
1. McNab, Chris (2009). The Third Reich. Amber Books. ISBN 978-1-906626-51-8. pg. 54

2. Idib pg 56

Graph Source
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>>128845748
100% agreed

>>128841807

Your freedumbs are an illusion, slaving away for kikes isnt what I would call freedom

>>128841253

NatSoc was never about race, but your people, Pedro.

>>128844249
This is what America is doing right now, and has been doing since they became the world reserve currency

>>128844442
Damn 2 off of quints my nigga, and I don't even care about that shit.

I just find wartime economics questionable, America being a prime example when it got them out of the great depression, and would look into the economics further to make sure my opinion is well founded. I haven't done that, I don't know if you have done that, but I plan on doing it =].