Why are so many young men not married?

>>128753209
Shit on my cock.

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>>128753209
Introduce more Asian men in the population.

I'm approaching levels of comfort that have never been experienced before -- can't stop now, I'm almost there.

>>128753209
Make marriage viable to men again.

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>>128753277

>>128753209
If you hate children so much, why would you want more of them to be born through marriages? OP's question made me think of another one. How do we fix this retard problem?

>>128753209
Eliminate no fault divorce and alimony.

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>>128753209
You're going to have to teach them how to get girlfriends.

No joke, they do not write any effective books on this subject.

Kids/Family requires a Wife
Wife requires a Girlfriend
Girlfriend requires (proper female swindling techniques)

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>>128753209

and the day before

>>128753209
By fixing women

>"women"
>tatted up impure degenerate freaks of nature
>"men"
>boys raised by feminism will never be men
Make women feminine again
Make men masculine again.
Problem solved. Was that so hard?

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> be easy to get married
>fucking sweeet.jpg
>i luve you I DO!
>divorce court sucks bad man.npg
>its easier to get married than un-married
>my grandpas advice
>you should listen brah
>real as fuck

>>128753209
I'd marry a woman if women were actually valuable. Women are possessions, and yet women have complexes of pretending that they aren't. How would you feel if your TV complained about feeling oppressed instead of doing its job? You'd throw it away, right?

That's the idea.

>>128753209
Modern marriage is a scam

You'd have to be an idiot to get married these days

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women aren't worth marrying anymore. All I want is a nice and conservative cutie without tattoos and a history of drugs/cocks. It won't happen

>>128753209
Introduce a system to pay for every single cost of raising a child for 18 years, then I'd consider it.

20 is an absurdly rediculous, unrealistic age to marry unless u just got knocked up

>>128753398
So they can be cuckolds for white bulls and their asian wives?

I just dont know anymore, I can't meet any girl that I want to spend the rest of my life with, tinder is fucking shit.

>>128754262
To continue: I would rather marry a man wherein I have an equal chance in divorce courts and our sexual needs would be similar enough to confide in each other. I'd even adopt a child that would have lived a life of poverty and despondence otherwise.

...Eh. I'm too fat to be attractive anyway. Better just kill myself.

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>>128753209

>Less women are marriage material with each passing generation
>Men get lower priority for entrance to college and higher paying jobs/careers
>Divorce and custody courts heavily biased towards men (alimony, child support, etc)
>Wages stagnant so most people barely have enough money for themselves, let alone enough to start a family

Just not worth it anymore. I remember some comedian saying that modern marriage for men is like playing Russian Roulette with 3 rounds in the cylinder.

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Modern women are the spawn of the devil

>>128753209
Because women don't do a good job making themselves marriageable.

You know, found myself thinking earlier. If I was inclined to marry someone, I'd go after the sweetheart who waitresses at a restaurant or works at a small tea shop. Fuck this idea that I'm supposed to find some high powered strong independent womyn who makes six figures desirable for marriage. I just want someone who's sweet and friendly, not this overly aggressive and insufferable career woman bullshit.

That said I'm done with the chase, just lost interest after realizing online dating is more of a pain than it's worth. Either I meet someone IRL or I die alone, not accepting anything less.

>>128753209
What could i possibly have to gain from getting married? Nothing. What could i lose? Everything ive ever worked for.

The choice seems clear to me.

>>128754433
This hits way too close to home my friend

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>>128753209
Maybe instead of putting down people who want to have a gf, you teach them how to get them?Help a bro out ya know, don't leave them out in the cold.

>>128753209
Pretty simple reason for this. No man-child epidemic. Divorce epidemic with women being the favored party in court rulings 9/10 times. Not worth the risk.

What are the benefits, friendo? Sell me on marriage.

>>128754716
Damn this does sound like a better deal. Sucks that I'm not attracted to other men at all

>>128753209
Make hetero marriage a better prospect than homo marriage

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When will we get 80s girls again?

>>128755832
Seconding this

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>>128753209
>want a gf
>want to get married
>want a family
>want to be a better father than mine
>want to work hard and give kids opportunities I was denied
22 kissless handholdless virgin...
IT'S ALL MY FAULT APPARENTLY

>>128753209
Marrying in 2017 is acting against man's interest. Acting against yourself is child's behavior who picks delusions (coming from lack of experience and knowledge) and emotions over rational thought.

tl;dr: Married man in man child in 2017.

>>128753209
>how do we fix the man child epidemic
and how do you propose we fix the narcissistic attention whores, looking for the perfect man while sloppy drunk fucking guys every weekend lying to themselves? You think this is a coincidence? This is pure Jewry at work, and it's paying off for them.

>>128755832
Gf =/= wife.

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>>128757270
shut up pussy go back to >>/r9k/

>>128756858
Cocaine addled W H O R E S

>>128757535
I think social media has ruined woman worse than it has man. Video games have ruined men, Instagram/Facebook/twitter/snapchat has ruined women

>>128757541
You can't get married if you don't start off with a gf?

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>>128753209
>man child epidemic
i am not a nigger depending of government benefits
take your buzzword and kys faggot
t. worst tax class

>>128757569
shit.... >>>/r9k/

>>128757757
Well actually you can do even that but this is sad stories.

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>>128758162
Damn those mail order brides!

>>128757757
you sure about that anon?
considering the stage of madness we've reached already i bet you can get married to your right hand by now

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>>128753398
>Asian men

>>128753209
>>its easier to get married than un-married
Nice advice. I'm stealing it.

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>>128758426
w-wh-what about the left?

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>>128758602
>anime left half the japan virgin
3dpd so good am i right?

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>>128758602
>42% men
>44.2% women
wew lad
government enforced sexual intercourse soon

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>>128753209
1) as goods female has been devaluing. Their main assets were their fertility and vagina. In my country the generation of my mother (babyboomer) and those who followed decided that it was not condescending to the spirit of modernity to teach to their daughters how to cook, in fact most Italian young males know how to cook because (being smarter than females) they decided that they would gather and bring on this knowledge, which is essential for living a decent (as in healthy and economically sustainable) life. So, females don't fuck, they are promiscuous, they don't want to be mothers, they thrown away the basic skills and knowledge for family care taking. WHAT'S THEIR VALUE?

2) the modern society is structured so that if you are not part of the general slut\hook up culture, you won't have any chance to encounter a possible partner, even if you are a VALUABLE WOMEN. Being that men don't want slut\hookers, the chances that they will find valuable females are minimal.

This friend of mine makes 300k euros a year... and still runs the lawn mauler and knows and practice "basic" carpenter techniques. His wife is a teacher, and can't cook, have no idea what swing is, she doesn't clean the house (there is a paid woman for that) she doesn't take care of her own old parents (there are multiple payed women for that). If not for the 2 children she gave him what's the fucking point of a wife?

>>128758602
No way this is real? Cant Abe just start locking people up in pairs until they mate in makeshift prisons?

>>128759245
well considering how bow legged and ugly non operated Asian girls are and how small dicked Asian men are i am not surprised that Japaneses sex toys industry is winning competition.

>government enforced sexual intercourse soon
Actually i hope for that as it can pave the way for post traditional socialites (and traditionalism is destined to die in developed countries). Only why intercourse? What is interest of government here? Kids? than you need insemination not just 'sex" 99.99% of which is childless in 2017.

>>128757740
Don't be a retard anon

Easy access to free internet porn and feminism 'ruined men', not vidya games

>>128756858
D O N N A

>>128755832
okay here's how it works
>walk up to a girl
>"hi, want to get coffee?"
repeat

>>128764988
nah . Laura was cuter ;)
although much crazier....

>>128753209
>How do we fix this man child epidemic?
Take women's rights away and incentivise relationships for men.

>>128758602
>tfw too smart to reproduce

>>128765717

>take away women's rights
yes
>incentivise relationships for men
also yes, but more specifically, make them more valuable than "muh tax dollars."

>>128765886
>also yes, but more specifically, make them more valuable than "muh tax dollars."
It will naturally follow the first step over time as they do not have the rights.

If 70% of males aren't married, presumably 70% of females aren't married either. When will these woman children stop being sluts and just marry already?

>implying anybody would marry a slut

>>128766342
This. Pump and dump is the current meta.

Facing overpopulation crises
>wants more children, and married people.
K

>>128753209
there is only two ways this can really end:
1) the human race dies out
2) females lose their rights

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>>128766240
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/"Women_are_wonderful"_effect

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>>128753209
>Restrict women's rights
>fix family court
>fix divorce laws
>fix economy
>get rid of alimony
What else?

>>128753209
Because?

It would probably take massive, freedom-denying changes in law and a couple of generations to change this shit. I think it's too late to fix and we're done. When you set up an entire culture to devalue the family unit in favor of self-serving, hedonistic lifestyles it's basically done.

>>128753209
Fix Marriage Laws so men don't get fucked over if they get divorced.

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>>128767173
The west isn't overpopulated. We actually have stagnant population growth and an aging population. Many countries in Europe are becoming like Japan. Most of the population growth is happening in Africa, the middle east and poor parts of Asia. If this wasn't a problem, we wouldn't be importing millions of third worlders every year.

>>128753209
change the bullshit divorce courts. make it not such a huge fucking liability for the man.

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>>128753209
Men shouldn't get married before 30.
Women should be married before 30.

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>>128753209

>>128768379
This is extremely depressing

>>128768196
just returns to the roles the sexes play in reproduction.
Men become better providers and protectors with age, but women only get less fertile

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> 30
> bachelors degree
> army fag
> captain tho
> bout 85k a year
> in very good shape
> no debt
> charismatic and nice
> worldly travelled because the fucking army
> cool dog
> nice apartment downtown

i used to date a lot, but i mean now at this point , i dont know if its because of where i live or what, every girl is dating a nigger or a drug dealer, im hoping its just a geographical occurance, and ill move again soon, but goddamn, women are not that interesting and im tired of having to explain basic concepts on almost any subject to them, because they think youre a dork if you know anything.

>>128759484
The main problem is now its acceptable for young women to behave like overentitled narcissistic uninteresting whores and young men unfortunately enable this behaviour because they want sex. They don't have hardly any hobbies except pop culture shit like reality TV, snapchat or shopping l. Most women under the age of 30 are a pain to be around. And they still expect men to entertain them like fukn jesters . Most don't even know how to cook anymore . So when these women hit the wall and are no longer desirable, and they can't use their sexuality to get what they want from men, how will they convince the average man, who probably spent his 20s getting rejected by these same women, that they deserve to get married despite not having the qualities which would make them good wives? And there's a 50 percent chance that they'll get divorced once these women get bored and they'll take half his stuff. Those men who can get sex regularly , just wanna pump and dump now, since most Women have made themselves so undesirable for marriage or long term relationships. Modern women are just glorified fucktoys

>>128766704
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>>128769134

>>128753209
Gas the kikes
Gas Marxists and antifa
Gas feminists

Problem solved

You don't

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tfw too intelligent for vaginal sex.

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>>128768708
>because they think youre a dork if you know anything

On the other hand you'll occasionally find a girl that looks at you like a demigod because you know some trivial shit

>>128753209
>23yo
>getting married in 30 days
You beta cucks

>>128770157
get out while you still can

>>128754716
>guy on NPR years ago predicted this
>"in the future the most common form of marriage will be between two men for resource protection. Sex will happen with prostitutes on business trips."

>>128770268
Nah have redpilled gf its my duty to save white race

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>>128769960

i was married very young, to probably the smartest woman iv ever met, beautiful young lady. we divorced because she hated the army life and i got sent to a hardship post. since then its been like 6 years of just banging dumb women and slowly losing hope.

>>128753209
Outlaw women from having jobs. Watch as they learn to become good wives and mothers so they don't starve.

>>128753209
because marriage is a a worthless bullshit trap not worth getting into

>>128770386
>since then its been like 6 years of just banging dumb women

Could be worse

>>128754433
I don't even want a "10", or even a "7".
I've never dated a girl over "6.5"
All I want
-Not ugly
-Wants kids
-no history of drugs
-no history of chads
-moderately conservative

Maybe I should LARP as a christian and start going to church again.

>>128770609
Pfft.

You'd have to fix the divorce courts first.

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>>128765231
I'm saying people who need some encouragement to go out and get some.Doing it alone for some can be awkward and creepy.

>>128753209
The court system for divorce is fucked.
Fix that shit up.

>>128753926
Its not fucking hard to get a girl. Find one in your league and show interest. If she doesn't want the D move on to the next one.

I got a bitch in literally two weeks doing that. I have no game whatsoever.

>>128770784
>Maybe I should LARP as a christian and start going to church again.

>Implying there are conservative christian girls

The only hope to find a good girl is to snatch them early, as in before college.
Actually no, they are already corrupted from jewish apps like snapchat and friends.

laying in my gfs bedroom and reading this thread, don't wanna get married, but wanna jam her womb full of mullato babies.

As a male, what reason do I have to get married? I can still have kids and live together without signing a contract that gives her half my shit if she goes off and fucks Jamal.

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>>128753209
>unless you are married and have kids, you are a man child

LMAO

Arguments like this just cement my opinion about marriage even further.

>>128753209
It's not a man child epidemic.There are no adult roles for them to fill in society anymore, and women are hyper-picky these days. Finding a good one who's in it for the right reasons is difficult.

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>>128753209
Take away all rights to vote for both male and female. Military service for males, home economics for females. This must be consensual or it will only inspire resistance and eventual revolt. A voluntary return to tradition for all, embracing our given natural sexual and social roles. White men and white women need to forge a new alliance based on mutual respect for each other's strengths and reciprocal care for each other's needs in order to secure the existence of our people and a future for white children. No more talk of rights without corresponding focus on responsibilities. There is no liberty, only power. Hierarchy is an emergent property of our species.

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Women were freed from traditional gender roles and in the name of equality so were men.

>>128771129
but even if you had the option of getting the best girl, would it be worth the risk to marry in the first place?

>>128771844
We were freed from our traditional roles in the same way Iraq was liberated from Saddam Hussein.

>>128772032
I don't understand that metaphor. Iraq descended into chaos and extremism, Western men went fishing.

>>128753931
So what?

>>128770386
Just go back to university after you muster out. Find a nice graduate student grill of any political leanings. Problem solved.

>>128772160
Look at Western Civilization, have we not descended into chaos and extremism?

>>128769134
Women expect the world from men whilst giving nothing but their worn out holes in return. And if the marriage turn to shit , because the wife cheated, she gets rewarded for being a whore by the divorce courts. Men kill themselves over alimony and not seeing their children . Society thinks this is OK. Men demand that women be loyal, and not be sluts, and they get called sexist misogynists rapists . What did they expect? I'm just surprised the scam called marriage 2.0 has lasted this long. No-fault divorce was a mistake

>>128753209
This is what the girls wanted

>>128771283
>fucking a negress

>>128753864
this...
you can't keep a compensation mechanism of the past and then say there is no fault. If there is no fault there is no compensation.

>>128753209

a) It's too expensive. Used to be the man worked, and could sustain himself, his wife and 2-3 children. Now man and woman work, and they barely can sustain themselves. All praise the central banks /s

b) Feminism.

>>128754433
This is unfortunately one of the side effects of sexual liberation. For thousands of years a woman that slept around was labeled a whores and undesirable. Now they're allowed to do it and the unfortunate side effect is that men still view that behaviour as undesirable, and thus make little to no effort to fight for her. Women undid themselves on this one

>>128753209

Marriage is dead the government rigged it against men.

Overall the government itself is too big we might need a revolution to fix it.

>>128772257
Not really.

>>128772411
The biggest opponents to the ERA were conservative women seeking to protect the role of wife and mother. This is what the Marxists wanted and they got it because the Communists won WWII. 53% of white women voted for Trump, this is all we need to know in order to gauge white female readiness to return to traditional roles. White women are not happy with how things have turned out, white men and women must form a united front to fight back against this degeneracy. We are the new Weimar.

>>128755351
This is also a negative side effect of women integrating into the work force. For every woman with a good job, that's one less man with a good job. Ask any woman you know if she respects a man who makes less than her, and the answer is no. Once you take a step back and look at how both sexes view each other, it all becmes very clear why feminism destroyed the western world

>>128767555
You can see it flattening out.

80% of 90s women forever unmarried. Kek!

>>128773149
If that's what you think then this message isn't for you.

>>128771844
Kek. Men are still expected to be the primary breadwinners and the Rock in the relationship. Men who aren't masculine are still demonised and are at the bottom of the totem pole. House husbands are still a tiny minority. Dangerous jobs are still done by men.

What feminism did was freed women from gender roles where it disadvantaged them whilst keeping gender roles were it benefits them.

>>128773202
The biggest opponents to the ERA were women who wanted to be able to get alimony after a divorce. If rights were truly equal, they wouldn't have gotten any alimony.

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>>128753209
by fixing this one

>>128773377
Phyllis Schlafly would disagree with that, and it was primarily by her efforts that the ERA was voted down. Alimony was an issue, and so was female conscription into the military, but the biggest problem was the dissolution of the traditional role of wife and mother.

We are in this position because we defeated the wrong enemy in WWII.

>>128757414
wtf, is it that bad even in Russia? I'm slav and the problem I had was the fact that every single girl I met in my hometown who was wife material was also incredibly average in everything and I couldn't relate or have any deep conversations with. I was thinking about getting a russian waifu. You have too many model looking girls, it should be easier to find one with brains also.

>>128753209
https://youtu.be/zRlfbUr852o

>>128771129
>Find one in your league and show interest.
What if "my league" means absolutely noone?

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>>128759484
Mario covered all the points I was going to.

No benefits for a man to get married, lots of headache, lots of risk.

The answer for whites is National Socialism. The answer for nonwhites is you have 2 weeks to leave our country.

>>128756858
back then england used to be a paradise on earth
sad state of affairs made it the opposite today

their style of clothing is very beautiful unlike these days too, makes me kinda nostalgic for things ive never really seen

>>128770316
Shit I've been here since 2011 and this might be the first post that redpilled me without an image or entire paragraph

>>128753209
Fix marriage/society and we might consider it. The best I'm able to do under the current system is to take care of myself and my aging parents. I can't afford the risk that starting my own family unit would bring. I won't bring anyone into this world when I'd have to set them up for failure and leave them with a similar obligation trap.

Show me a better future and I'll opt in

>>128773258
Yes. They are expected to be that but at the same time, they are free to go their own way. And many of them do just that.

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>>128776181
Hey Finn nigger, I'm MGTOW and I still get hit with like a 45% tax rate on my paycheck and capital gains.

Guess where all that money goes? A good portion of it goes to subsidize very bad female behavior.

>>128776515
So move away. That's what I'll do this year.

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>>128773215
The author had an edited female friendly version of that graph which tried make it seem like women born in 90s will suddenly get married in their late 20s/early 30s, which seemed like a stretch considering all the earlier trends suggest that the marriage rate is rather predictable and follows a smooth curve. If women knew the truth today, it would probably spark a healthy debate about the state of marriage in the west. But it seems like most in the know would much rather sugar coat the truth.

>>128753209
beign an adult child is fun, just let us be :<

>>128777807
What western nation doesn't tax men at a high rate to hand money to women behaving badly?

>get married
>have a kid
>buy a house
>whore wife decides she wants a divorce
>lose your house
>ex-wife moves in with some nigger
>live alone in a studio apartment while some nigger raises your kids
I bought a motorcycle instead of getting married. It's safer and more fun, also it gets you laid

>>128753209
Make the man keep everything his and pay a set amount for every child and woman's rent. Just enough to get by.
This way it wont be profitable to divorce and risky to get married.

>>128779118
This. Also hookers. Now hear me out. I used to think it was fucking degenerate, but women are fucking fickle. Why spend hundreds of dollars on dates,gifts, and my time on a girl that could end it all on the drop of a whim? Ever woken up to someone straight telling you they don't love you after a night of sex? Or that they met someone else? Why bother when I can just call a hooker, do the deed, and move on. A few hundred bucks isn't even a fraction of what I put into both of my "committed" relationships.

>>128753209

Make women worth a damn. Done.

>>128779421
Or just ban no fault divorces. If a woman breaches get marriage contract(cheats), then the husband can divorce her and she should be entitled to none of his assets or income. Only child support should be allowed.
If the man cheats, then the wife should get half. And marriage contracts should be renewed every 7 years.

>>128754464
You're the one with the brain
seriously

>>128753209
women hold men in disdain if the man makes the same amount of money as them. women want to work the same jobs as men and get paid the same amount.

therefore women do not want to marry lower/middle class men since they make less/the same amount of money as the women. every woman wants to marry the top 30% and refuses to even look at the rest.

its not a mystery.

>>128769134
>how will they convince the average man, who probably spent his 20s getting rejected by these same women, that they deserve to get married despite not having the qualities which would make them good wives?

Those men either became Chads, an heroed or went their own way AKA gave up. There's no one to convince.

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>>128770372
>marrying a Czech woman

>>128778877
>wanting to move to another (((Western))) nation

Found your problem.

>>128771129
that s right , you got a bitch , not a wife .

>>128753209
Women are garbage, has nothing to do with men.

Never before has a more worthless self centered unskilled brain dead generation of women existed on this fucking planet.

>>128780599
This is also a problem. It's no surprised that the under 30s have the lowest marriage rate in history whilst women under thirty are also out earning men in the same age bracket.

>>128780764

What's wrong with Czech women aside from the porn meme?

>>128780932
And what's this magical place you're moving to finnbro?

Nothing in marriage for a man except bad, bad stuff

>>128753926
>books on women

kek you don t need a book , you need one of these 3 things : money,social status , looks

having 2 of these will get you laid in no time but even with one you are good

Men aren't getting married because women don't want to be married
It's that simple
What have laws done to render marriage so unattractive to women?
Work it out if you want a woman to ditch her career, future travel, property, personal wealth, peace of mind, body and rights
Guys don't hold the whip hand any longer
Notice how it's men and not women who say they want a partner and children?
Guess being a household slave wasn't all that attractive an option for your mothers and grandmothers after all. Today's women don't have to settle for it
Maybe if guys regard marriage as an actual commitment instead of thinking they're entitled to continue drinking, loafing, hanging out with guys, gambling and whoring as if they were still bachelors, they might get lucky

>>128755124
Just sit back and watch it burn anon...
Rome too went through this once... Play the lyre Nero...Play the lyre...

>>128781110
check republic has over 50% divorce rate. think it was up to 60% but don't take my word on it, all i know is it was over 50.
atleast thats what some check guy wrote once upon a time here.

>>128781348
Italy with the bantz, I agree. Did you find a wife yet?

>>128758602
>44% women
Better than 0% virgin after 14.

>>128780510
In Poland there's only child support. Husband takes what's his, wife what's hers and they split equally what they worked together on. I think it's fairly fair. I mean, people here aren't afraid to get married.

>>128753209

>Marriage is biased against men.
>Women are worthless sluts.

There is literally zero reasons to marry right now, its literally a game you can't win.

>>128781655
Are you a virgin?
Why would you expect a woman to deny her sexuality just for you?
Are you afraid of comparisons?
Have to get over it
Or be able to prove your own virginity

>>128781363
Men are saying they want children because if women wanted children, they could just get impregnated by Chad and just raise their kid by themselves, which is partly the reason why nearly half of all kids today come from single mother homes, which is also a drain on the welfare system. Men don't have that luxury. But once the technology is there, women will become as redundant as men.

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>>128781655
tru dat

>>128781893
t. roastie

That's exactly right, a guy can't really prove it, and it doesn't hold as much value as for a girl.
>inb4 muh double standards
Despite any rationalizations you currently use to justify your past behaviour. Fortunately you'll have plenty of brainwashed dudes who don't care.

its really no surprise. first problem is that people these days have no sense of loyalty to anything. if something else is better they drop their current thing and go for the better one no matter how long and how much they've been trough with the old one. for material things thats fine as long as you don't wait to go to the dentist because you want a new phone or computer when the old one does its primary function acceptably. but its the same with everything. people don't stay loyal to their job even if they spent thousands on getting you courses and certificates, even tho they weren't legally obliged to. its a general opinion that its perfectly acceptable to leave the second you have documented training paid then ditching for a better paying job at a company that would never spend a dime training anyone.
with this being true then there is no wonder people think its acceptable to ditch their current partner in favor of a hotter or richer partner. even worse, just someone different because staying with one thing is completely unknown to them so staying with the same people seem equally foreign.

>>128758602
japan needs some mutliculturalism i guess

>>128781138
Czechia. Women are still sluts but at least the taxes are low as fuck. 15% flat rate and then 7% (((solidarity))) tax if you make more than 50k a year.

>>128781363
>Notice how it's men and not women who say they want a partner and children?
kek, until you bit your 30s. Then you start throwing tantrums, poisoning the younger generation and literally killing yourselves. Damn, you really are a mad roastie.

>>128781893
>Are you a virgin?
Yes.
>Why would you expect a woman to deny her sexuality just for you?
I expect her to be responsible for herself and not to fuck around like a whore.
>Are you afraid of comparisons?
Why would I like used goods anyway?

>>128753209
we migrate towards lands for our race.

>>128753209
Pay me more, and once I can afford to live on my own, I'll look for a spouse

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SOMEBODY SAVE THE WOMYNZ

>>128781363
And don't kid itself, men were slaves to the system and still are. My father died early because he was a miner who worked 10 hours a day to put food the table whilst my mother was a who're who cheated on him when he was gone for work . He developed lung cancer as a result of his work. Millons of men like my father died early because of the work they did, and women like you believe women had it harder? Kek. I' take care of my sister and her two children because she has MS, and let me tell you this, domestic duties are easy compared to the work I do when I used to be a labourer in my uni days. Women always had it easy you ungrateful bitch.

>>128753209
stop women from being able to take 50% of a mans earnings, they break marriage it should be them that pay not us.

>>128783026
Cheers, good thinking. Enjoy your tax breaks mate. Although I'd argue it's pretty western, more than other EE countries at least.

>>128753209
Too busy building my business. When im 40 ill marry some hyper conservative 25 year old and give her the easy life of kids and baking cakes

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>"Is he really the best I can get? I need to test him"

That's what goes on inside a woman's head 24/7

>>128783450
It's in Central Europe so it's a good mix of both. Of course it will get cucked in the next 10 years or less but by then I'll move to Georgia or Armenia.

>>128781363
>notice how it's men and not women who say they want a marriage and children?
Yup and that's the problem. What makes me sad about this situation isn't all the men complaining, it's all the lonely girls who feel like shit because they don't have families. At the end of the day the guys still have plenty of stuff to keep them happy, but the girls not so much.

>>128783604
>Too busy building my business. When im 40 ill marry some hyper conservative 25 year old and give her the easy life of kids and baking cakes
Tempted to do this while fucking every degenerate hole that comes my way until then. I feel like it would break every single last innocent part of my soul though. I already hate the world enough.

>>128758602
Do you mean to tell me that 44% of the female population in Japan is sexually frustrated? Holy fuck I need to get over there and find a wife.

>>128783410
No one should have to pay, the government should stay the fuck out of peoples relationships

Anyone have the birthrate/taxes chart posted yesterday? From like 1900-2000 couldn't find it's source

>>128774334
"Even" in Russia? Especially in Russia! Dude, who the fuck told you that we're some sort of a cultural bastion in that respect? We're literally 3rd world trash, and our women are some of the most vile, cock-gobbling skanks you can fathom. They'll deep throat a corpse, just as a principle. Jeez.
But then you look at the opposite side... Poor, dumb manchildren, balding in their mid 20's. Or shitskins. That's all our women get to choose from; hence why they act the way they do. Sober up, it's not "just in the West".

>>128784410
The problem with japanese women is that they're materialistic as fuck and expect their husbands to be rich or be a slave to the company whilst they spend all your money. It's normal for Salarymen in Japan to give all their incomes to their wives and the wife give them a weekly allowance. Its a slavery of a different kind. Unless you're rich or successful, quality Japanese women won't be interested in you. I heard its easy to get laid there though, if you have blonde hair and Blue eyes

>>128784410
If they aren't having sex, it's by their own choice, so I seriously doubt they're sexually frustrated.

Or they get all their needs from tech

>>128784226
It's what we're gonna have to do bud. Girls don't realize that men just adapt when shit hits the fan and we fix our own problems. All that's gonna happen in today's world is men will be married to girls that are like 10 years younger than them. Just like you said start working hard and making bank while you're single, then give some 25 qt a free ride as a house wife.

The girls really just hurt themselves when they try and pull their equality shit

>>128784194
No. think again. The girls can get everything they need for themselves now
which is why guys are whining
Look at the comment below yours. See the unbridled misogyny. that guy claiming he'll bang every woman he meets isn't meeting any, that's obvious
Things have changed but men are in denial
Easily available birth control gave women control of their biology
Past generations of women learned many men simply want to control women through motherhood before pissing off
The daughters of those women saw what men do and want no part of it. Kids who've been raised in single parent, fatherless homes suffer lack of education, lack of self esteem and confidence, lack of opportunity and that's generational, passed down at least two or three generations before their descendants can get back on their feet. And men caused that. They deserted their wives and children and left them to fend for themselves in a harsh world
Now men are paying the price for their father's cruelty because people (male and female) who've seen the destruction wrought by their fathers' selfishness are choosing the single life
Men are responsible for the current situation of men and women choosing not to marry
Those old bastards are rotting now in nursing homes and feeding maggots six feet under

Why buy the milk when there are cows all over the place giving it away?

>>128753209
Oh look, Rabbi Shekelberg is worried about the money he's losing in the matrimony industry. The diamond ring, the wedding dress that costs as much as a cheap AR15 and will be worn once, the matching dresses for the bridesmaids that cost nearly as much and will also be worn once, the fee for wedding-planner Moshe Shekelstein...(((someone))) must really be worried about lost revenue.

I'm calling it now, within the next five years it's going to get trending for women to partake in a "wedding experience". Single women going through a completely illusory, farcical wedding ceremony and reception, with all the bells and whistles and expenses, just to experience being a bridezilla without ever actually having to marry a man.

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>>128773215
>>128778044
http://www.olin.edu/the-wire/2016/will-millennials-ever-get-married/

http://allendowney.blogspot.com/2016/10/millennials-are-still-not-getting.html?m=1

>>128785201
I don't agree with you. Like I said above men will adapt as we always have, even while we bitch and complain. We will just find some girls from the next generation to take as wives. Why do you think there's so many stories on the Internet of older single women that are miserable? Don't see many if any of those stories from men.

>>128784760
I'm a slav born in EE, I was talking about my original hometown. Fuck off, western women are a lot more degenerate, I'm not saying ours are all housewifes exactly either.
I agree to some extent with what you're saying. I would argue that Russia has a surplus of hot young women compared to the west. Hence better chances to find a quality one. Are the marriage laws bad over there though?
Also your English is too good, call me paranoid but I know what most ruskies write like.

>>128785405
They're already trying to make it a trend for women to pay a fortune in order to marry themselves. A thread about it earlier
No. Women aren't that nuts. They can take a cruise or buy an investment property for the price of a fake wedding
Most women regard their wedding day as the biggest mistake they ever made
Men regard it as conquest and before the ink on the marriage license is dry, men whine about 'ball and chain'
But it's men who're the actual ball and chain in many instances; child men who want a mother they can fuck
Women are tired of accommodating that mentality
Maybe men can opt for male pregnancy, which has been an option since the 80s although most men don't like to discuss it
Or maybe men can just admit they're basically homo anyway and shack up with Bruce

>>128753209

I've asked a few women to marry me. They all declined. I blame women.

>>128753488
Stop being mysoginist

>>128785201
>Easily available birth control gave women control of their biology

So you can extend your fertile window by taking birth control pills? Wow, that's amazing, honey!

Oh, no! Mr. Goyimstein won't make a profit on the marriage AND divorce industry! Whatever shall we do!

>>128757740

yes

1: social media opened women up to more potent mainstream degeneracy and normalized the idea other people are always happier than they are

2: social media (mainly dating apps) opened women up to the broad dating pool where the top 10% of men were actually accessible. this was not easy before the internet

before the internet, women would settle with their local chads. nowadays, they'll fuck local chad and bounce between three different city chads until she's 25 and broken

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>>128753209
I'd like to get married, but I hate myself too much to even get a my first gf

>>128785975
I mean this in the best way possible, but you sound quite bitter and female.

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I don't want children, Anon. So, i am not going to marry a woman because of that. I don't want to raise children in a fucked up world which is getting more fucked up by the day.

>>128785201
Kek. Tell me why most single mothers these days are mostly unmarried mothers?
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/wonk/wp/2014/12/18/the-unbelievable-rise-of-single-motherhood-in-america-over-the-last-50-years/

Women used welfare to replace the father for decades, and are now blaming men from 50 years who used have quite traditional views, for the current single motherhood crisis? That's not how social trends work. Stop blaming muh controlling men for the fact that women have atrocious tastes in men.

Women can never admit that their gender may have fucked up. You're like children.

why would a man marry?
tax the shit outa rental properties
deregulate house production so houses drop in price each year

>>128785201
>The girls can get everything they need for themselves now
>for themselves
more like government handouts
>Easily available birth control gave women control of their biology
>control of their biology
you mean the ability to whore out with zero consequences
>Kids who've been raised in single parent, fatherless homes suffer lack of education, lack of self esteem and confidence
funny because in the US females initiate divorced 80% of the time
>Men are responsible for the current situation of men and women choosing not to marry
you mean the Jews and Marxists are responsible

>>128786141
Do you know how many women are opting for sterilization in their twenties?
It's the (((media))) which keeps harping on about window of opportunity re motherhood
Increasing numbers of women don't want motherhood at all
So off you go and buy a bride and when you're up to your neck in mortgage, car payments, child care payments, household chores and maintenance (while scared out of your mind that your young bride is off playing with a guy her own age) women will be lunching with friends, buying investment properties, taking cruises with friends, having sex with whomever they choose, rising in their careers, enjoying all life has to offer. You'll be pushing a pram through the supermarket, looking for bargain buys and cheap hair dye to cover those greys as you try to find a way to pay your kids' education and new shoes

>>128785975
lol butt hurt old slut who could never convince a man to sign the retarded contract that's marriage detected. Meanwhile men's happiness has been increasing without marriage and yours has been decreasing for decades. Enjoy your 8 cats and dried up pussy. I'll stay fucking girls in their early 20's

>>128786654
You wish

>>128785975
>Or maybe men can just admit they're basically homo anyway and shack up with Bruce
>marry my best friend
>burp, fart, drink beer, smoke weed, dont do dishes, stay up late, curse, play video games etc, all while getting a tax break from the government

sounds good

>>128786638
You are mistaken, honey. I don't want a marriage or a mortgage or an expensive car or kids or even a live-in girlfriend. You must have confused me with someone else.

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>>128753209
>man child
Start rööking. Now.

>>128786940
Ok
pass it on where applicable
lots to choose from in this thread

>>128785010
>It's what we're gonna have to do bud. Girls don't realize that men just adapt when shit hits the fan and we fix our own problems. All that's gonna happen in today's world is men will be married to girls that are like 10 years younger than them. Just like you said start working hard and making bank while you're single, then give some 25 qt a free ride as a house wife.
I was career obsessed since my teens. I always hesitated to sleep around or get into relationships not going anywhere and deceieve girls. Even now I'm still holding onto some hope that I'll find my particular type of shy nerdy girl to really fall for. But it's slowly dying out, and I'm terrified about when that'll happen.
I've seen how one bad relationship fucks men up, and I know myself well enough to realize I'll abuse sex. I'll most likely just end up self sabotaging and really bitter since it was never sex that I craved in the first place.

>>128786638
>women will be lunching with friends, buying investment properties, taking cruises with friends, having sex with whomever they choose, rising in their careers, enjoying all life has to offer.
then kill themselves when they realize that their only reason for existence, reproduction, is not a fantasy with their crusty dried up ovaries

>>128786638
women can't even properly haggle for a good deal on a vehicle let alone make an investment for later in life. absolutely pants on head retarded to think that you can make any viable and long term prosperous decision in your life.

>>128786821
Nope reality you bitter old hag. I'm 32 and hooked up with a 19yr old just a few weeks ago. Pussy felt like sticking your dick in a balled up fist. Meanwhile you're dry, loose and worthless. Women loving older men is such a blessing but younger men want nothing to do with your cellulite infested ass. Stay mad you old bitter whore

>>128787075
I only bang hookers so I don't know how any of the shit in this thread applies to me. But thanks, honey.

>>128787217
Women have had more than they need of catering to the male need to leave someone to replace themselves
Women do not feel reproduction is necessary. Men do
Women are opting for permanent sterilization at a young age. There are endless online fora dedicated to just that. They go from one doctor to another seeking sterilization to *ensure* they can and will enjoy sex without motherhood
Some men are opting for sterilization at a young age also and they are members of those same fora
Women want to enjoy the same freedoms as men have always enjoyed and who would blame them

>>128785711
>>128778044
>>128773215
people don't even fucking realize how much they lie about marriage statistics. men simply are not going to get divorce raped. not only is the economy bad as fuck so men aren't looking to settle down, but women are used whores. women think they can get married when they're 35, but don't realize history has shown men marry late while women marry early.

none of these stupid western whore women will be getting married

See. You guys are really exposing your true nature here with your personal attacks
Now ask yourself, what woman in her right mind would want to be shackled to you
Bitter, childish, spiteful
all the things you falsely use to describe women, in fact

>>128787993
LMAO

You are baiting way too hard

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is anyone here?

Please consider destrying this faggot that banned me from posting, did not swear of anything. He it does not like me talking it truth it seems, fucking attack attack

>>128788085
I'm not trying to bait them
it's a case of them feeling they're being baited when all I'm stating is the facts

>>128768708
Yeah if you're still serving don't get a girl, or at least don't get married.
Jody will get your girl.

Make marriage worth again. At this point I can't think of 10 good reasons to get married. If that leads to the downfall of society so be it. Fuck this world.

>>128753209
Cultural Marxism is anti-family.
Anti-civilization.
You must purge the Marxists.
Re-instill family values.
This is no joke.
Western civilization itself is imperiled.
Marxists are the enemy.
Islam is their tool.
They must be dealt with appropriately.

>>128786638

the media harps in all directions

you're riding the wave of radical feminism as more evidence just came out that it's nothing more than a marxist tool (where is the feminist stance on the latest FGM movement?)

however you're partially right if i ignore 90% of your nonsensical ramblings

women like you are broken today, and it's the men of yesterday's fault. those men were raised by women because of the previous generation--so again, it's the previous generation of men's fault

when searching for blame this will always lead you all the way back to when men were leaders. when men denied women the right to vote. these men represented their women when they would vote because they would suffer the consequences of their own leadership. the day of women's suffrage was the inch that took a mile, liberalism ran amuck and never slowed down

women cannot raise men. women can only raise boys. our culture is suffering because men allow women to raise children without them involved, and it will only get worse from here as advantages are handed over to women in the name of "equality"

>>128788185
@thetomzone

fucking cunt reported me i'm sure

Just ignore the roastie.

>>128753209
because porn is always better

>>128787993
shut up you stupid fucking roastie. your subhuman gender destroy western civilization. you're going to be islamed by somebody in the relatively near future. then you're going to be exterminated once we get sexbots and artificial wombs.

remember the chinese 1 child policy where they were throwing women into trashcans or into rivers? that's your value.

>>128788197
You still haven't responded to this fact.
>>128786406

>>128753931
Ad nauseum, infinitum.

>>128753209
step 1: fix slutty degenerate women
step 2: stop letting women rip men off in divorce courts with child alimony
step 3: ???
step 4: profit

>>128780764
Still better than chink

>>128787651
>Women do not feel reproduction is necessary
false. the need to reproduce is a biological drive. thats like saying "women do not feel eating food is necessary." literally the only reason a human is alive is to make more humans. both men and women feel this. if they didint we would have gone extinct long ago.
>Women are opting for permanent sterilization at a young age.
do you have any reliable sources citing the number of women who undergo sterilization?

>>128783604
Very smart, and in the meantime be chaste

>>128788264
never going to happen. men will never submit to the vaginal jew again. unless there's white sharia where women are enslaved then there's no return dumb fuck. all tradcucks who want to be equal with women are worse than mudslimes and marxism. foreign enemies are suppose to attack you so you guard against them. cuckold beta men who submit to feminism and women opened the gates so the invaders could come.

>>128753209
>no man wants to marry a whore
>all women of legal age are whores
>somehow this is the man's fault

>>128753209
Not worth it. I am now saving up money to buy some property and live alone off the land. I don't want to bring a nagging creature with no plow experience that would only be a buzz kill.

>>128753209
There's no reason for women to marry anymore so most guys have gave up.

Most women would prefer to be used by Chad than have to fake being attracted to a normal guy for the rest of their lives.

It will be for the best when polygamy is legalized and the best guys can have up to 10 wives.

Let the average and below average guys work and keep the economy going. Give them hookers to keep them occupied. Lord knows we don't want white guys shooting up theaters every week.

That's why I'm pro immigration. Immigrants are more appreciative of the opportunities to work in the West. They don't think they are owed a woman to have sex with.

>>128788851
You viewing women as whores is entirely on you.
Full stop.

>>128784226
It's the right idea, but don't be too promiscuous, that's disgusting. Save yourself for your future wife.

>>128785201
>Look at the comment below yours. See the unbridled misogyny. that guy claiming he'll bang every woman he meets isn't meeting any, that's obvious
kek typical female shaming attempt. Feel free to call me a virgin as well, since I still am one. Although it used to be a constraint, it is currently entirely my own choice. The problem isn't meeting women, it's finding one I would genuinely be excited about spending the rest of my life with.
And I was alluding to a breaking point I've seen many of my friends reach.
What about you, roastie?

>>128753864
Not good enough. You must bring laws back to pre-19th century. Coverture, females not allowed to own property, etc.

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>>128788240
My brother is going to marry an argentine.What is he in for?

>>128768579
tfw more chance for autismo baby

marry young

I was talking to the priest who was going to marriage ceremony for my sister, I found out that he is getting divorced due to his wife cheating on him.

If even religious girls are cheating, then regular sluts are going to be even worse. Better to just get married later when these females know that their options are dry.

>>128788267
No. This time, the 'Marxist tool' or whatever is spot on
Marriage is not a good deal for any woman capable of making it on her own
Women don't suffer the male biological imperative to replace themselves on the planet
Women are the ones who're pulled from their lives by marriage. Most men, after marriage, continue their bachelor lives. The woman's life is changed forever. It's usually the woman who's left to raise children after the man child has deserted his family. Being deserted, having her life altered forever, being left to raise children in poverty, is not what women signed into marriage for
Deserting their wives and kids seems to be at the back of men's minds from the time he was trying to get into the woman's pants. It gives some/many men immense satisfaction to know they've fucked up women and kids' lives
So what's been the result -- women have decided it's not in their interests to get married and give up everything to raise her in-laws' gene pool on the smell of an oily rag
Men zip up and walk away. The woman is left with one or more children forever. Not the greatest of deals and no wonder women aren't interested
More women than men are in the workforce
Most single parent families are headed by women
Men desert one or more families and go online to whine about not paying child support
Things have changed and men haven't kept up
They want to regard a woman and kids as their 'possessions' as if this were the 17th century
They demand virgins despite being male sluts themselves
Men need to wake up. Their game is over
Some men are intelligent enough to see the imbalance and ensure it doesn't intrude into their marriage
Others are in denial and still imagine having a wife and kids will make men of them and provide them control and power
Marriage should not be about power
Until men accept that, women are going to avoid marrying them
Anyway, women want to have fun. They've had thousands of years of being treated as valueless slaves by jerks

>>128775278
That's not england. That's a promo shot of actresses from the show Twin Peaks. Normal people didn't dress that way. Those are costumes and in the USA.

>>128787993
You are correct in everything you've written, unfortunately.

>>128788960
No, it's simply the definition. A woman who is:
(a) not a virgin
and
(b) not married to the man she lost her virginity to

is a whore. By definition. Yes, it is my choice to not become a cuckold who marries a whore, but I cannot be blamed for that decision.

>>128786638
This kills the civilisation

>>128768379
>>128768572
>This is extremely depressing
>Automated jerk-off machine for $300

moar like best timeline.

>>128788508
way to prove her point though, seriously, critique yourself before you repeat yourself

>>128788916
kys

>>128789342
You have no plow experience. You bring great shame to your ancestors who have shaped their land trough hard work and sheer willpower against all odds. You disgust me.

>>128786406
These things are not mutually exclusive.

>>128789309
There are a number of reasons for a woman cheating on or leaving a man
NO woman leaves a guy who makes her happy
No woman cheats on a man who hasn't either failed to satisfy her over a prolonged period or who has cheated on her, been mean with money for basics, etc. Women do not act in their own worst interests
However, many men whine after their wife leaves them and of course, those men tell one side of the story
A woman doesn't marry a man she loves and bear his children only to cheat on him or leave him on a whim
Next time someone (male or female) steals your valuable time whining that their wife/husband has wronged them, cut it short or tell them to hurry up and tell you what they did to cause the failure of their relationship. They'll shut up fast
So stop being a kid. Life isn't a tv show or movie. Live a little and find out for yourself what life is about instead of accepting drivel from gosh wow ... a priest

>>128790001
Yeah, like your opinion carries weight, lol

>>128788960
Eh, he's technically right. You can't tell people how to feel, and it's natural for men to harbour feelings of disgust for girls who sleep around.

Biology 1
Feminism 0

>>128789653
Kid, you're going to be lonely for life or you're going to grow up and stop watching reruns of Leave it to Beaver

>>128785201
i think both sexes are at fault, i'm not sure which one though
also, if 4chan is any indication, the average guy who wants a wife and kids is an autistic racist spreglord

>>128790317
Women don't like guys who sleep around either
Where's this discussion going

>>128789342
You're right. The Dunning-Kruger effect is strong with the ones ignoring your words and insulting you. I don't even think you're trying to argue here, you're really distributing facts for those with eyes to read them. This is the raw anti-marriage female perspective.

>>128789832
The point is that it is irrelevant what females want. If you base any sort of important civilization-level decisions on what females want, then you're retarded and your civilization is already set to fail. Our ancestors knew that women were retarded and not fit to make any sort of decisions, and that their desires did not matter at all.

>>128790317
>be a species capable of higher thought
>resort to biology

weak male detected
enjoy being the last of your bloodline

>>128753209

OP, why should they ?

>>128790581
Someone with intelligence and courage
You deserve a good life
with thanks

>>128790577
>Women don't like guys who sleep around either

lel if you only knew

>>128790091
>No woman cheats on a man who hasn't either failed to satisfy her over a prolonged period or who has cheated on her, been mean with money for basics, etc. Women do not act in their own worst interests
That's completely incorrect. Plenty of women get drunk with their friends and end up cheating.

You assume their feelings are deeply set, like our own, but their emotions are overshadowed by a temporary set. All the loyalty in the world means nothing if the flirting in the moment is hot enough.

It's ignorant of you to think otherwise, not everyone is like you.

>>128790585
Your opinion is why females don't want you and why they've got a vested interest in politics as well as avoiding marriage and reproduction. You're not helping us form a new alliance, you're actively part of the problem.

>>128790091
>A woman doesn't marry a man she loves and bear his children only to cheat on him or leave him on a whim
You need to leave your house and stop watching kike media. Women do this all the time in real life. Every action a woman makes can be described as "on a whim." And 9 times out of 10 that action is destructive to herself or those around her.

>>128790577
>>128790639
Women don't like to be cheated on sure, they don't like men who sleep around while in relationships, but single men with lots of sexual experience are highly desirable and this is no coincidence.

Biology 2
Feminism 0

>>128790710
it's true though, overly promiscuous men are disgusting. I can tell just by looking at them.

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>>128753209

Fix women.

>>128790893
Experience and promiscuity are not the same thing. Having some experience is a fine enough thing, but a male slut is greeeezy and repulsive to a healthy woman.

>>128790395
I cannot be lonely.

And I only expect what all of my ancestors expected up until the 20th century. My grandfather married a virgin, his father did, and so on. If I can't and never marry, then it's no skin off my nose. I choose not to degrade myself by shackling myself to a whore.

>>128753209


femscum OP, funny u call those reasonable men 'children', when the problem is precisely that women are so fucking childish and dont take any responsibility, cuz they stick in perpetual childhood

>>128788916
>Let the average and below average guys work and keep the economy going
Why would they waste their time on that instead of fucking your wives behind your back?

>>128790091

the bluepill and gynocentrism and slavedom oozes strong throu this one

>>128791089
Promiscuous people are always undesirable. They are a plague that spreads marital dissatisfaction.

>>128753209
Women don't want to marry men who jack off to traps all day. Men these days have no sense of indulging in moderation they spend their waking hours eating shit food while watching hours of porn and playing hours of videogames. There are good women out there but don't think you will find one if you are anything like the average 4chan poster. Women like men with personal restraint and ambition. The way most of you act here is disgusting to the majority of good women. You act like pleasure obsessed animals. Fix yourselves.

>>128790893
No. You bought the lies again
You did so because you chose to, even though those lies don't make an iota of sense
What woman wants a dick that's dragged itself through the gutter and countless previous relationships? Answer, only a woman with similar depraved history
Not even religion supports your claims or the lies you've chosen to swallow
Ask a woman if she enjoys thinking about her man sleeping with other women prior to her
Get the real answer, from the real source, not the (((media))) that wants you to believe you can fuck without thought to your spirit
Same (((group)) which boasts it promotes porn because it is a direct attack on Christianity. Obviously, Christianity is that group's target. But read the subtext: irresponsible sexual activity takes from you, whether or not you choose to acknowledge that
So of course no real woman wants a man with a damaged spirit or sexual past. After all, the woman falls in love with you. She wants to believe you worthy of her love and respect. The thought of you engaging in sex with other women is just as vexing to her as to men who want a virgin. Men and women are not so different. Why do you imagine you can invent differences to suit yourself

>>128753209
Two reasons:
1.) Girls only like outgoing and muscular guys. Shy and average guys don't get girlfriends.
2.) All women cheat. It's simply not worth the effort just to be humiliated.

>>128791567
They make things so much worse for those of us who are healthy, especially while we're still young and impressionable

>>128788989
>It's the right idea, but don't be too promiscuous, that's disgusting. Save yourself for your future wife.
I am, ideally it would stay that way, I want it to. Unfortunately the situation looks more dire the more I go on. And I'm losing hope I'll ever find what I'm looking for, while forgoing the opportunities I have to get some of my needs met at the very least.

>>128790704
>Marriage is not a good deal for any woman capable of making it on her own

Same could be said for any man

>Women don't suffer the male biological imperative to replace themselves on the planet
Then their genes won't pass onto next generations, natural selection at its finest

>Women are the ones who're pulled from their lives by marriage. Most men, after marriage, continue their bachelor lives. The woman's life is changed forever. It's usually the woman who's left to raise children after the man child has deserted his family. Being deserted, having her life altered forever, being left to raise children in poverty, is not what women signed into marriage for
This statement relies on the husband abandoning their family, something most men here wouldn't do

>Deserting their wives and kids seems to be at the back of men's minds from the time he was trying to get into the woman's pants. It gives some/many men immense satisfaction to know they've fucked up women and kids' lives
Male boogeyman eh, How many times is this actually the case?

>More women than men are in the workforce
Men now unable to provide, women want men to be providers, now many men become marriageable

>Men desert one or more families and go online to whine about not paying child support
Despite women initiating 80 percent of divorces

>Things have changed and men haven't kept up
"Sexual liberation"

>They want to regard a woman and kids as their 'possessions' as if this were the 17th century
Only overly possesive men

>Others are in denial and still imagine having a wife and kids will make men of them and provide them control and power
Then what makes them men, you can't say x does'nt make you a man, and provide no answer to what actually makes a man, then whine about men

>Marriage should not be about power
I agree with you on this point, it should be mutual

>Until men accept that, women are going to avoid marrying them
This can be said the other way around too

>>128790035
She's implying women are having children without men because men treated women badly in their family long ago, and so they unconsciously decide to not have kids with a husband because of past trauma or something. When from my experience(I have a few cousins who are unmarried mothers), unmarried mothers who are the majority of single mothers are having kids by themselves not because they oppose muh patriarchy or as a result of past trauma, but because they made stupid mistakes when they young whilst they were on the cock carousel, and didn't practice safe sex. In fact the men who impregnated these unmarried mothers tend to be the violent types. They're not nice men which is why they never stick around. If becoming a Single mother was a way to make a statement about female oppression in the past or a response male violence against women, why do they always have children with the worst of men who tend to embody these negative traits? She sounds like a single mother roastie justifying her degenerate behaviour

>>128791715
1. Males only like stupid women with big breasts
2. All men cheat. It's not worth it.

>>128790805
>Your opinion is why females don't want you and why they've got a vested interest in politics as well as avoiding marriage and reproduction
Again, what females want is irrelevant.

>You're not helping us form a new alliance,
What alliance? Females will not willingly give up feminism, so there will never be any alliance. We will need to take their rights from them. Either we do it ourselves or Muslims will do it after feminism has thoroughly destroyed us. But either way, feminism is not a sustainable position.

>you're actively part of the problem.
No, feminists like you are the problem.

>>128753209
How are you supposed to afford marriage when a house costs 30 years of savings, a car costs 5 years of savings and a business costs 30 years of savings.

Inflation has been 200-400% since 1970 while housing prices have been over 600%, car prices have inflated 300%, meanwhile real wages of entry-level white collar jobs shrunk 15% since 2000 alone, real wages overall have shrunk 45%..

Welcome to the future /pol/, globalism made this happen.

>>128754262
>I wonder Why no one wants to marry you

So you wanna benefit from women and their resources (time, their body which can give you offspring) yet when women do this by marrying you for money you hate them. But you are doing the same thing.

If you wanna get married, you gotta make yourself attractive for marriage. The stronger that sort of spirit is in you, the further away from you and towards feminism you are pushing women.

>>128791967
You don't need it, you just want it. Don't be an irrational slave to your own desires, abstain for your health and get to work.

>>128791249
Yes you are correct, but I was saying earlier that men care about that difference with girls, the high sexual experience is a turn off, even if she was in committed relationships.

To be blunt there are 100% double standards, and to fight against those double standards is to fight against biology itself. Funny enough that seems to be a popular trend these days with all the gender operations lol

>>128792034
That's not true at all and you know it. Guys are far less shallow.

>>128785201
yeh nah sorry sweetie,

My mother divorced my father out of spite and for her own financial benefit. She married him plainly because he had a good paying job, and was born into a wealthy family. My father lost our family home which he paid for in its entirity, his superannuation and most of his savings, PLUS part of his earnings as child support for years.

My dad is one of the nicest guys youll ever meet, and never had anything against my mother, and even went out of his way to help her, even AFTER the divorce.

She was just a spiteful opportunistic bitch out for financial gain.

No one deserted her, he was the one pushing for them to stay together, she was happy doing next-to nothing and being a 'housewife' and now she still does literally nothing. Just living off the financial gains of her divorce.

After seeing this first hand, and hearing countless other similar cases, what incentive do I have to commit? It's a huge gamble, a huge risk. Divorce statistics are around 60%.

If you took those figures to a risk-management firm - they'd just tell you its not worth doing.

Fix the divorce system, and you'll fix the family/marriage problem. If you make 'the nuclear family' look socially and financially beneficial mutually, and remove the financial risks men have to undertake / financial gain women can profit off/abuse - the 'marriage problem' will sort itself out.

>>128753277
/thread

>>128791678
Lady I've gotten the info straight from the source. Obviously nothing is ever 100% but the general consensus is that women fantasize about experienced lovers, while men fantasize about virgins. Im not the one who made it this way that's just how it is

>>128792026
That may in fact be a fair critique of many situations, but her perspective is the general female argument against marriage and isn't entirely false either. She has expressed very common apprehensions that should be taken into consideration if you want to understand the entire reason why so many people, men and women, aren't getting married. While it may not justify anything, it can certainly go toward explaining things.

>>128791636
>There are good women out there
This is false. Less than 5% of women of legal age are virgins, so over 95% of legal women are whores. And that 5% who aren't whores are obese and/or have personality problems of some sort. Sure, there are a handful of exceptions, but statistically you are not likely to find one.

>>128791089
how can you tell?
can you tell if they're a virgin too?
teach me your roastie ways

>>128792125
>Waaah we need to take rights from others because I am entitled totunti pussy

Fuck off, pyssy isnt aa fucking right. Its same as free healthcare, you do not have a right for it as someone else is paying.

You dont have fucking right to pussy as you dont have a fucking right totunti free healthcare

Fucking commie

>>128790091
That't telling half the story as well

>Women do not act in their own worst interests
Of course they don't, they do anything in their best interest, even if its leaving a man for one who is "better"

>satisfy her over a prolonged period
The problem here is that no mutual agreement is made. If the woman isn't satisfied, its the man's fault. If the man isn't satisfied, it's the man's fault. Instead of both parties being at fault.

>>128792026
I'm not implying anything of the sort
Clearly, you have personal issues which compel you to twist things to suit yourself
I mentioned single parent fatherless families
That 'implies' some man put children on the planet, coerced a woman to produce them, after which the 'male' deserted his family to a harsh environment
If that triggers guilt in you, stay away from the discussion

>>128753277
*Bbbbbbbrrrrrraaaaaaaaaappppppp*
*Pppppppphhhhhllllllllbbbbrrrrrttttttt*
You like that you little slut?
*shits a log on your chest*

>>128792125
What are you going to do, rape women into submission like a beta? That literally proves her point and solves nothing.

>>128792819
Again, the differences between men and women are far less than their similarities
Do you really believe this world accommodates men's interests at the cost of women's?
Best you remain single and childless then

>>128790805
So then people don't breed, a civilization begins to crumble and then fall. Natural selection wins again, every lasting civilization relies on hiarchy and roles, I don believe that women do deserve freedoms and rights, but they must also accept a mutual agreement to bear the responsibilities of those rights. In this case, all parties are "equal" by law, but are also equally responsible.

>>128792322
Have you ever even met the male of the species? They're unwilling servants to their irrational desire for sex. They only think with their dick and can't stand women who are smarter than themselves. All they want is tits, and they all cheat. Don't be a hypocrite, you know it's true. Even when they know porn is wrong they still use it, even when they see all the red flags they still have sex with bad women. They can't even think straight until they turn 50 years old, and some of them never grow up.

>>128792879
Again s I've said in my previous post, these men tend to show bad traits. Men don't become horrible human beings when they have children with these women. There's always signs that's clear. If that's the case, it's rare. 99 percent of single mother I know were with men who showed very suspect behaviour. I'm not good at judging other men, but even I could see that some men are awful, yet some of these women seem oblivious. The onus is on women to choose the right man to have children with. Unfortunately, most women have forgotten their responsibility to their children