NASA Discussion

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>>128284595
>NASA cutting livefeed
>Also weird that you never see a complete orbit around the earth on their livestream.
Why do you watch "livefeed" on youtube in the first place? I mean i suppose it's not even "live". Live picture doesn't match actual ISS position.

Here, take this http://www.n2yo.com/space-station/

here is an interesting theory how they are faking live feed footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2RP_-PRT4g&t=1s

We've been hearing about VR contact lens for quite some time now but news articles always say their "prototypes" and years off.

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>>128285305
that website doesnt let skip around to the past of the stream which is annoying. from what i gathered this will make a jumpcut too though. i have it open in the back and hope i dont miss the night coming in. we will see

pic related shows no dust on the foot even though the landing should have blown up a lot of dust

>>128285634
what would VR conactlenses needed for? a normal greenscreen is enough for the stuff he describes, and indeed i believe a lot of the stuff is faked with the greenscreen.
also i dont buy into the flateart stuff. that is thought to narrowly. they see nasa is fake and instantly jump to the conclusion it means the earth is flat even though there are dozen other explenations on why they could fake it.

>>128285305
your stream just went offline by the way as i predicted

>>128287764
Well, at least it shows correct picture, unlike youtube stream

>>128287764
>hey see nasa is fake and instantly jump to the conclusion it means the earth is flat even though there are dozen other explenations on why they could fake it

No, flat earthers don't think nasa is fake. They just use what NASA gives us against them because what NASA puts out as evidence the Earth is not flat is ludicrous.

>>128286364
And by the way do you honestly think that aluminum foil trash bin made it in space?

>>128286364
DELETE THIS

>>128284595
They are too inefficient and honestly could probably use big personal and infrastructure cuts. The big thing is that they have no focus. You can't spread the budget on probes, telescopes and the moon and Mars without being crap at everything.

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>>128288351
well, i cant tell for sure, but the landing module does seem like a schoolproject that was finished the night before it had to be finished.

>>128288450
nope

pic related shows that there was no dust blown away from beneath the module during the landing

>>128285305
>>128284595
ISS streams go offline at random intervals because it is traveling around the world, which makes it difficult to have a constant connection

If there was anything fishy out there, not only would NASA employees probably leak out the info, the Air Force guys would be the ones with the real know. When there is a projectile heading towards ISS, they call NASA to tell them to move it a certain degree. NASA doesn't even have the capability to see what floats in our atmosphere like the military can

Most information can be found out through NASA. They hide very little, but you have to remember they gather a lot of information, and it has to be processed and put online so people like you aren't so butthurt that 0.002% of Federal spending goes to actual science.

Did you know they spent 30 billion to put AC IN MIDDLE EAST FORTS? BILLION. And yet people think NASA is a boondoggle.

t.Civil Servant at JSC

>>128286364
>>128288782
You guys are fucking retarded

If you cared to do any research, NASA released all documentation on Apollo missions last year. Feel free to go look at how this achievement was made. Debunk yourselves and stop believing a lie that perpetuates the idea that man cannot achieve anything without lying or ayylmaos

>>128289103
>If there was anything fishy out there, not only would NASA employees probably leak out the info
i doubt it, just like the rest of the government they are bound by their sins
http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/01/exclusive-feds-wouldnt-prosecute-nasa-intern-caught-downloading-kiddie-porn/
if someone steps out of line they will be exposed as it goes for the rest of the government.

and just because there are bigger wastes of money it doesnt mean that other wastes of money shouldnt be stopped.

>>128284595
Compared to SpaceX they seem very inefficient. They are a private company and develop useful stuff like reusable rockets that may make very nice things possible in the future.

NASA sends probes to places like Jupiter's moons etc. It's very intriguing but seems useless knowledge to me if Moon ends up being furthest place humanity will ever reach.

NASA means deception in Hebrew. They are scuba divers, and rocket nerds, but that's about it.

>>128284595
test

I live right next to the Johnson Space Center. Most people I know work for NASA or a firm like Boeing. It's not fake but the money could probably be used on more important things than launching rockets. Probes and things like that are actually probably more important.

>>128289540

Liars are the ones who get rich my friend.

>>128289597
“Four months is not out of the question, but six months to a year is the standard,” Harman told TheDCNF. “Four months is a bit out of range, for sure.”

Harman also noted that Hernaez would have likely faced a longer sentence had he been caught one month later.

“This incident for him occurred in December 2014. In January 2015, the law changed to where we can add enhancement if there were more than 600 images,” Harman said. “That would have applied to this guy, because this guy had about 1,000 imagines.”

Hernaez is not listed in the NASA Ames Research Center directory where he worked in 2015, according to NASA spokeswoman Jessica Culler. She did not answer additional questions by publication of this report.

Did you not read it? He was prosecuted. And what does that have to do with NASA? He was an intern and not even a civil servant. Use your brain. You're reading it like a conspiracy. Do you think the NAT. Parks service is hiding bigfoot, too?

How is it wasting money? It creates jobs and new technologies. Helps put satellites in the sky, and answers age old questions about the universe

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>>128284595

Earth is hollow with polar openings that lead into its hollow interior. Outer Earth governments know about this, but are not telling the masses.
Daily reminder that there was supposed to be a voyage to the North Pole in 2007 to find out if there's an opening at the North Pole that leads into the Inner Earth World (and thus prove once and for all that Earth is hollow). The leader of the expedition was Steve Currey and he suddenly died from a brain tumour shortly before the expedition began so all of the money they got from people who were going to join the expedition was refunded. The new leader of the expedition was Brooks Agnew and the new expedition was meant to be in 2013, but shortly after THAT expedition was about to begin, his film crew suddenly vanished without a trace so THAT expedition was cancelled too (and, once again, the money they got from people who wanted to join their expedition was refunded). The expedition was/is known as the 'North Pole Inner Earth Expedition'. Here's a link to the official North Pole Inner Earth Expedition page:

http://www.x2-radio.com/phoenixsciencefoundation/npiee/index.html

Flat Earth theory = Reddit

Hollow Earth theory = /pol/

Also, Terry Smith was an Alaskan bush pilot associated with this expedition who agreed to fly directly over the North Pole to see if there was an opening there but he suddenly died in a plane crash on August 9 2010 before he could make that flight. NONE of these incidents are (((coincidences))). There is a world inside our world.

>>128290605

The sudden popularity of the Flat Earth theory two years ago is a CIA psyop that is designed to hide the fact that Earth is actually hollow. This is a common technique that intelligence agencies use to deceive the masses (I call that technique 'conspiracy misdirection'): They promote a conspiracy theory that they KNOW is FALSE and want you to think you're red-pilled by believing that false conspiracy theory is TRUE while using that false conspiracy theory to hide a TRUE conspiracy theory related to it that has even MORE far-reaching implications than the false conspiracy theory. For example, the 'Moon landing hoax' conspiracy theory is being used to hide the TRUE conspiracy theory that we went to the Moon and found artificial objects there (or we knew there were artificial objects there all along and went to the Moon simply to bring some of those artificial objects back to Earth). The official account of the Moon landing AND the Moon landing hoax conspiracy theory are BOTH FALSE. NASA itself is covertly promoting the Moon landing hoax conspiracy theory.

>>128289703
i dont think spacex is any better though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muDPSyO7-A0
note how it gets dark when the thrusters ignite, thats normal due to the exposure, but it stays dark even when the flames left the frame it doesnt get bright again. shortly afterwards the commentator even says "the sun set several minutes ago" 1:40 minutes after liftoff even though during liftoff it was still bright. my guess the editor edited it the right way in the beginning, and after the cut some other guy took on the work, saw its dark at the end and kept it and the commentators had to go with it

>>128289715
well, maybe they do actual work behind the scenes, maybe not.

>>128289540
you could just tell me whats wrong on my statements instead of bitching around.

>>128289597
Also, you obviously do not know any civil servants. If there were ayylmaos, everyone at NASA would need security clearance to keep a lid on it. Almost no one does. I know some people in the private sector that have top level security clearance, but that is most likely to keep trade secrets on satellites and rockets away from others

>>128290167
Okay so explain why NASA came out publically and said the reason they cannot go back to the moon is that the the technology they had from the 60s was destroyed. They can't remake that technology. Name one other invention in HISTORY that this has happened.

Important and real but needs better management. Sad!

>>128290650
>The sudden popularity of the Flat Earth theory two years ago is a CIA psyop
Fun thing it's actually was evolutionist psyop back in the 19th century, when it was invented

>>128290697
>NASA came out publically and said
did they?

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All planets, moons and stars form as hollow spheres.

>>128290937
yes
https://youtu.be/oo-X47kc3sg?t=52

>>128290697
they never said that. They basically said the schematics they used weren't documented or preserved well enough to replicate based on the old models but it isn't like they couldn't just create new schematics if they wanted to go back. The reason they haven't is that there is no point sending a manned mission to the moon, there's really no point in manned space missions at all right now

>>128289703
SpaceX uses NASA engineers to help build their rockets. Have you seen how many failures they've had? Their safety threshold is very low, and collabs with NASA safety to remedy their problems. NASA is slow to do anything because no one wants to lose more life. Better do it right the first time. Look around to see how many fail safes SpaceX has to any problem over NASA.

>>128290238
Muh-Russia would never allow that, either

>>128290656
not interested in debunking debunked claims. Do your own research before putting out claims that are just wrong

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>>128290662
why would they? if they are just told to fake some stuff without giving them the reason of covering up ayyys they wouldnt need any security clearance

>>128290697
todays concrete is shittier to the type used by ancient romans

>>128291359
>hey basically said the schematics they used weren't documented or preserved well enough to replicate

more and more bullshit

wake up

>>128291118
>>128290937
He's referring to outdated technology. We wouldnt use 50 year old tech to send someone back. Those missions were very dangerous, and in order to go back to the moon, billions would have to be spent for a new rocket, module, and all the engineering to get there again.

>>128291359
That's wrong. Please don't push false info

>>128291118

PLEASE, the tech which the general public is not privy to is QUANTUM LEAPS ahead of anything we see out in the open. We have faster-than-light space fleets, the ability to turn entire deserts green, the ability to instantly remove nuclear radiation anywhere on Earth, the ability to eat food and gain energy from that food but not shit out that food, etc.

There are two realities going on side by side in this world, the one that the masses think is real (what I call 'Movie Screen Earth') because (((certain people))) tell them it's real and the one that is actually real. The one that is actually real is SO UNBELIEVABLY DIFFERENT to the one that the masses think is real that it would make your head spin.

"We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity..... anything you can imagine, we already know how to do." - Ben Rich, Lockheed Martin

>>128291118
>we've destroyed technology
>it would be painful to bring it back
>implying he's not talking about the hardware and industrial facilities

>>128291871
Thanks for the sources you provided. I'll be sure to read them.

>>128291678
it's true you retard. My grandfather worked on the apollo missions and I have tons of documents on it nasa didn't even bother to keep. Their bookkeeping was shit.

>>128292032
>My grandfather worked on the apollo missions
oh yeah well my granddad worked at nintendo and he told me about the nintendo 64 way before anyone knew about it.

Why do you lie for liars? Or does /pol/ have NASA shills ready on deck?

>>128284595
NASA is worthless. We should have had FTL space travel by now. That way I could have signed up and gotten off this fucking rock and far away from stupid shit like this long ago.

>>128292228
Is that NASA fault or is it the hundreds of years of no scientific advances because "muh religion" and other factors? No, it must all be NASAs fault.

>>128292217

>My X was involved in the Y

Common shill tactic.

>>128292217
why are you so butthurt about NASA being real anyway?

>>128292420
I dunno bring your grandpa in this thread so we can have some discussion, shill.

>>128292217
well, this thread usually 404s with a 3day ban for offtopic. i went to IRC about the justification since nasa is a government agency and just got a ban there as well with the comment "everything is politics if i just believe it". so there is a good chance there are shills ready on deck

>>128284595
nigger why don't you just buy/rent a fucking telescope and see for yourself

>>128292513
he died, I'll make sure to grab the documents next time I'm at my uncles house though. Here's an article he wrote by the way, only thing I could find online. Doesn't make much sense for all this research to be done and for all my neighbors to go work at NASA every day if it doesn't exist
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/JB075i011p02029/full

>>128292643

>well, this thread usually 404s with a 3day ban for offtopic. i went to IRC about the justification since nasa is a government agency and just got a ban there as well with the comment "everything is politics if i just believe it".

That's fucking bullshit, man. NASA is a legit political organisation - it's funded by the American government, for fuck's sake. Fucking (((mods))), man.

>>128292902
thats how i see it too.

>>128292671
see what? i dont doubt we have stuff in space, and the ISS probably even too. im just saying the shit they show us is (mostly) fake

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>>128291470
That is Apollo 16 or 17. Most likely tracts left over from 15

Remember, there is no wind up there to blow anything around

>>128293053
What does NASA show you that is fake

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Thanks for the billions goy

>>128293053
>and the ISS probably even too.
You can track and see it from Earth, so there is no probably about it.

I am curious why you think it's fake though. If it is up there and you can see it, why would what they send back be fake?

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LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES

>>128293053
yeah I mean you can see the ISS with a telescope. They may be faking some stuff but it doesn't really make sense considering they could just film what they're actually doing.

jesus christ you guys are retarded

>>128293409
What do you mean? They film stuff all the time on ISS

>>128284595
Aliums man

>>128293546
that's what I'm saying. Makes no sense to fake stuff when they can just record what they're actually doing.

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>>128286364
>pic related shows no dust on the foot even though the landing should have blown up a lot of dust

finally i truly see

>>128284595
Nasa is a complete fraud.Everywhere you look they lie or fake something.Bubbles everywhere,scuba diver in the reflection of the space helmet on space walks, visible harness signs etc...

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>>128293247
look in the OP or my other posts.
or here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NtKpHK-mBQ
her hair which doesnt seem to float in space, but rather be fixed with a ton of hairspray springing back into the same position.

also if gif related is real then the astronauts were in great danger from accidently jumping off the moon if all thats needed is such a little push at the start to leave the moon

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>>128284595
NASA is just the public arm of a propaganda machine. Nothing is real that they are pushing.

The real American space program has been done by US Space Command (Naval Space Command and Air Force Space Command working under the control of US Space Command.)

These sites have some interesting information about this.

http://thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/02files/Navy_Space_Program_Exposed.html

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread329997/pg1

http://www.rense.com/general67/hackerfeelsUSnavyhas.htm

>>128291407

Hey man, good on you trying to counteract the overwhelming amount of retardation and denial. I hope one day the mouthbreathing German you replied to kills himself

>>128293409
>>128293323
unless the ISS isnt for the purpose we are told. maybe they do something else up there we arent supposed to know. i cant tell why they fake stuff, but the stuff they show us from the ISS just doesnt seem real.

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>the private sector does everything 100% more efficient and effectively than the government ever has
>except space travel

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>>128294012

>John Lear

Mah nigga, I fucking love John Lear! I unironically agree with John Lear that humans live on all of the planets in the Solar System.

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>>128294006
>that gif

if you look rly rly close you can see a string attached to that """"""spaceship""""" like hollywood used to use in order to create a """""""flying"""""""" effect before cgi.

>>128294323
there's not much of a profit motive to go to space at this point.
>>128294309
I'm sure they have stuff not meant to be seen by the public but I seriously doubt they're outright faking the videos

>>128284595

They're still working on propulsion systems I theorized when I was 11.

They're pretty stale at this point.

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>>128294432
>her hair is stiff as a board
Why do people trust what their EGO is telling them to think instead of what their eyes, brain and heart are relaying to them?

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>>128294500

>profit motive
>not knowing about asteroid mining

Asteroid mining is a viable solution to the depletion of Earth's natural resources. Asteroids are known to contain VAST quantities of metals and minerals (including rare earth elements that are essential for electronic appliances like smart-phones!). Not only that, but we can unfreeze the ice on asteroids so that we have water to drink. We can also split the water into its constituent elements, hydrogen and oxygen, and use the hydrogen as rocket fuel while using the oxygen to breathe. Also, daily reminder that the asteroid 253 Mathilde has an estimated value of over 100 TRILLION dollars and is thus the most valuable asteroid we currently know about. So maybe it's time to start mining asteroids.

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The question remains.Why are the russians and the chinese faking it too and not calling nasa's hoax?

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>>128294889
>The question remains.Why are the russians and the chinese faking it too

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>>128294330
Hell yeah. He is one very smart man.

You may like this interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hBaXJSn0oc

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>>128294889
if its profitable/usefull for the US to do, then the same thing can be usefull for china and russia. also this >>128294953

>>128294730
Textile physics on zero gravity too hard for Hungaria I see.

>>128284595
primarily for military purposes

>>128295294
Can you imagine if russians or chinese call out the hoax?You cant convert that to money.Its priceless.So whats priceless thats worth keeping their mouth shut?Its not like the cold war was different and there the SU and the US should have been not on the same side,yet neither called out the others hoax.

>>128294889

Most of the stuff NASA does is real, it's just that NASA is a front organisation. There are two American space programs, a public space program (NASA) and a secret space program. NASA exists simply to mask the secret space program. And yes, (((they))) have the money to do all of this because (((they))) are the ones that MANUFACTURE all of the money.

repurpose it to make houses mass produced so mortgages gone and houses cheap as fuck but huge far paart and durible low maint!
:)
space is scam who cares

>>128295459
Atleast you improved from the image artifact.Everything is either a coincidence, an image artifact,or im too dumb.
Go on.

>>128295052

>He is one very smart man.

He is indeed.

>You may like this interview

Heard it already, but thanks anyway.

>>128295597
Thats no answer why the supposed enemys in the cold war didnt called each other out for faking it.

>>128294432

this whole harness thing is freaking me out? is it to keep them in place during the interview or just fake antigrav?

>>128294677
Hair doesn't act like it does in water, because water is constantly moving around them and therefore making their hair move with it.

Your eyes, brain and heart must all require a check up.

>>128295956
If it were to keep them in place would they cgi the harness out of the picture?

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>>128284595

NASA & ISS are just PR. The real stuff is the Black Budget Programs.

http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/

>>128295896

Faking what? If you're referring to the Moon landings, those weren't faked.

inb4 muh Van Allen radiation belts

We can easily get through the Van Allen radiation belts. It's not impossible by any means.

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>>128295998
>Hair doesn't act like it does in water, because water is constantly moving around them and therefore making their hair move with it.

So why does the cord of his mic transfer motion? Why does her necklace transfer motion as well? Why did the flag on the moon wave?

>>128295998
still it wouldnt be as stiff and springing back into the position as you see on many of the NASA videos where there are people with long hair.

>>128295956
if it were to not make them float away they wouldnt mask it and just say the purpose. the fact that they try to hide it tells me fake antigrav

>>128296078
they cgi the stars?

>>128296190

Go away, Anon5.

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>>128284595

NASA receives public funding funnelled thru the Pentagon. The Pentagon applies many special requirements. In order to obtain funding, NASA must apply these special requirements to their employees, culture and systems. The public is then isolated from the truth.

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>>128284595

It's all true, I've been to the pool where they film it all AMA.

So a Greek thousands of years ago measures the circumference of the Earth with a fucking stick and people here with access to near infinite resources think the Earth is flat and NASA is fake. Holy shit you guys are some dumb niggers.

>>128296302
What stars

>>128297139
1. i never said the earth is flat, provided multiple other reasons on why they could fake stuff in the very OP.

2. the thing with the stick only works if you assume the lighrays hit the earth nearly parallel, if the sun were much closer and smaller the earth could be flat and still you would get another shadow indicating a curvature.

why is it that most people arguing against flat earth are just as retarded as the flatearthers themselves?

>>128297139
when did anyone say anything about flat earth. actually look at the evidence if you want to have a conversation. now youre being nothing but a brat trying to boost his ego. take the ego blindfold off then talk then see whats true and whats not. you dont want to see and confuse yourself you stupid nigger

>>128290848
What do you mean, to discredit creationists?
>>128290662
Not if they are working on simple projects like sending drones out to look at shit.
And again, you forget that not everyone there needs to be complicit with their lies, it could be management only that is in on it and puts even the staff under the web of lies.
>>128296999
Figures.

Honestly, I don't know how some of you guys can possibly think that the holocaust was faked partially and framed in ways it didn't happen (fully faked if you're a retard) and yet actually believe that NASA ain't lying to you about shit.
Yes they got shit in space, no the earth isn't flat and experiments can prove that gravity exists via relativity not Newtonian physics.
>>128297139
Only retards from reddit think that NASA is 100% fake and the earth is flat, stop projecting, nigger.

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>>128284595
The DoD has a black budget that's larger than NASA's budget. Plus the military budget has over a trillion dollar budget, much of which goes to classified projects. The USAF essentially has it's own separate space program.

Why would they need to use NASA's meager 0.47% budget for the same thing?

One of the most telling signs of the flat earth being a psyop is how often the elites push the meme themselves. Obama and John Kerry have mentioned flat earth multiple times trying to attribute it to right wingers, and even Milo Kikealotsadicks said once "I'm at the point where if a democrat tells me that the earth is round, I'd be inclined to believe it's flat"

>>128297684
probably dont need the budget, but they have to (((officially))) give nasa a budget that fits its supposed purpose. if they would only get 1 million it would be suspicious. so they tell they get more, but funnel most of the money to where the actual work is done while having nasa around as a cover up

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>>128297557

I'm just kidding you fuck. The holocaust has zero evidence it actually happened versus everything that has happened in space.

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When you see it...

>>128298149

See >>128290650

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>>128294889
That doesn't look anything like a scuba suit.

You can clearly make out his visor, backpack, and headlamps. He's just in the shade, plus the Orlan suit is a darker color than the American EMU suit.

>>128284595
NASA does a lot of great work, but are held back by three things

1) Lack of funding
2) A constantly meddling federal government that butts in and tells them which contractors to use, what specifications missions should have, and changes all their mission objectives after each election.
3) Liberal obsession with diversity, outreach, and 'Earth science'

>>128298522
I may believe you if it were just that.

>>128298337

Some hint ( beneath triangle in the middle of upper border)

by the way, the people working for nasa are assholes regardless of credibillity
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-woman-detained-moon-rock-20170413-story.html
now this seems odd when its just about some old lady and some rock however
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/space/6105902/Moon-rock-given-to-Holland-by-Neil-Armstrong-and-Buzz-Aldrin-is-fake.html
they probably dont want people to find out about their fakery.

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>>128298427
If you're referring to the peak inside the crater, that's normal for larger craters. The energy involved in such impact is high enough that the solid surface acts like a liquid.

Some smart man could tell me how did the Moon end up tidally locked in the first place.

Some of the early Moon footage was done in-studio because signs of ET's where prohibited from public viewing. Therefore only segments where recreated in-studio to maintain the current cover up of ET's.
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Huffington Post - SCIENCE
05/30/2017 04:15 am ET | Updated 4 days ago

Aerospace Executive ‘Absolutely Convinced’ There Are Aliens On Earth

>>128299074
im blind apparently, tell me pls.

also whats with the rumor of all craters on the moon having the same depth? read it a few times but would need some credible source.
eitherway the moon is weird as fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u5Bh5PJGuI
it was seen from different points on earth at the same time, so not just some atmospheric pressure wave from a passing airplane or anything like some people claimed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uZ9B_iMG5k
could have been from different exposure to wind, some meassuring error or whatever, but weird none of the less.

even with NASAs own released information its weird
https://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/History/SP-350/ch-12-3.html
>One unexpected result came from the seismic experiment recording the impact of Intrepid on the surface after we had jettisoned it. The entire Moon rang like a gong, vibrating and resonating for almost on hour after the impact

Irwin Shapiro,
Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics

“The best possible explanation for the Moon is observational error – the Moon doesn’t exist.’

"The Moon is bigger than it should be, apparently older than it should be and much lighter in mass than it should be. It occupies an unlikely orbit and is so extraordinary that all existing explanations for its presence are fraught with difficulties are none of them could be considered remotely watertight."

>>128284595
>I believe Nasa is a fraud.

It's been a long time since NASA did anything useful. Our space program is running backwards. We used to send people to other worlds, then we just sent up a bunch of satellites. Now NASA just tells us what they think the weather is going to be and they can't even get that right.

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>>128299238

Or perhaps that solid surface is more than it appears?

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>>128300066
it all went downhill with the naziroots of project paperclip dissappearing over time

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>>128284595
The truth is, I don't have enough reason to believe nasa is legit nor a fraud.

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>>128299731

Silly, they definitely will not tell truths to us.
Also picture this is official, and strange that space ship is so clear : http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/frame/?AS15-M-1579

>>128299323
Bodies orbiting around each other exert non-uniform gravitational tugs that we call tidal forces. The Moon exerts tidal forces on the Earth (which cause the tides and to a lesser extent deformation of the Earth's crust) and the Earth exerts similar tidal forces on the Moon. These forces exert torques which change the balance between the rotational and orbital angular momentum of the objects in the system in order to conserve total angular momentum.

The Moon was originally much closer and rotated faster than it does now (and days on the Earth would have been shorter as well), but billions of years of tidal forces have slowed the rotation of the Moon and Earth and caused the Moon to recede.

If the process were allowed to continue indefinitely (ignoring things like the Sun swelling up into a Red Giant and engulfing the Earth, etc) in about 40 billion years the Moon and Earth would eventually have what's called a synchronous orbit, where the rotation of the Earth would slow so much that the Moon would stay above the same spot as it goes around.

>>128301128

"Moon" it's too perfect and odd to be natural satellite.

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Wood on Mars

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so how big is north america really?
and someone in another discussion mentioned this could happen by taking pictures at different distances and it could be, but:

pic 2 (Blue marble 2002) has been done from 700km height
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/BlueMarble/BlueMarble_2002.php
>Flying over 700 km above the Earth onboard the Terra satellite

the 4th picture (Blue Marble 2012) was made with the NPP/Suomi NPP sattalite orbiting at 824km
https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/image_feature_2159.html
>A 'Blue Marble' image of the Earth taken from the VIIRS instrument aboard NASA's most recently launched Earth-observing satellite - Suomi NPP.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suomi_NPP
>The satellite was placed into a sun-synchronous orbit 824 km (512 miles) above the Earth.

So when the distance is the issue of the size difference the sizes should be reversed and i doubt it woul create such a big difference.
The pic allegedly gets created by taking a lot of smaller pics and stitching them together, but still that would mean that they do a fucking poor job in creating an accurate depiction of our planet when there are such big differences


>>128300977
i dont think thats a space ship, but it looks like a weird formation

>>128301716

Fucking THIS. The Moon has EXACTLY THE SAME APPARENT SIZE as the Sun in the sky here on Earth (which is why we have total eclipses) and, as far as I'm concerned, that is NOT a (((coincidence))). Someone or something put the Moon into its current position.

>>128300232
Well yes, there is evidence of some geological activity on the moon. Even if the core is solid there's still tidal forces.

Peaks in the center of large craters is a common result of the impact forces though.

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>>128301716
Yeah, okay, thanks Ben.

>>128301128
That sounds nicely if you dont have to calculate it in that the Moon was catched by Earth in the first place.Or its coming from Earth.Doesnt matter.How did it end up tidally locked?Thats something with a chance so low there is not enough characters allowed here to write out all the zeroes.

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>>128296999

>>128301775
Im more interested in the shiny thing

>>128302046

The only thing those scars could've been made by at that depth is water, or intervention.

>>128301970
Not only this.

>They hypothesized that small meteors are making a cup-shaped depression in the rocky surface of the moon while the larger meteors are drilling through a rocky layer and hitting an armoured hull underneath

>When Apollo 12 deliberately crashed the Ascent Stage of itsLunar Moduleonto the Moon’s surface, it was claimed that the Moon rang like a bell for an hour, leading to arguments that it must be hollow like a bell.[1]Lunar seismology experiments since then have shown that the lunar body has shallow moonquakes that act differently from quakes on Earth, due to differences in texture

..and many others , just loork for them

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>>128301775
isnt it weird how whenever there is something seen that could show something important on the marsrover they never drive closer to check up on it and possibly find nothing or something completely groundbreaking, but instead drive the other way where there is nothing for sure?

(pic related says "original" because it isnt the version where someone played around with colours and contrasts, and i just zoomed in on the pic)

>>128302792
What am i looking at?My eyes are bad.

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>>128298337
ayyy lmao

>>128302905

headcrab

>>128302410
Best theory so far is massive impact with one of the few remaining large protoplanets very early in the formation of the solar system. Big thing hits Earth, bits get blasted into orbit, some bits fall back to Earth, others coalesce into Moon, and after a few billion years of tidal pulls the Moon slows down and becomes tidally locked.

Fits with the available evidence:
>We know from orbital mechanics that a planet our size couldn't have captured the Moon without the orbit being more elliptical.
>The Earth and Moon have nearly identical orbital inclinations, which supports the model of the Moon forming from a disk of debris orbiting the Earth.
>Geological analysis of Moon rocks shows that they're made of the same stuff in almost identical ratios.

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>>128302905
here the version with altered colours and contrast

>>128303038

Falling back to the Moon = Theia shard, are we?

>>128284595

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzMQza8xZCc
It's not live it's just streaming a large video.
At times it would play faster and night would come faster and at times they would cut the stream so they can switch the video.
IT'S NOT LIVE FEED it's just a live stream of a recording.

>>128302558
Obvious large structures on the dark side of the Moon
https://youtu.be/hKadoX3rfcE

>>128302792
If NASA tracked down every rock that looks like a face they'd never get any actual science done on these missions.

>>128303183
okay, but still see >>128285305 and >>128287764
>your stream just went offline by the way as i predicted
so the phenomena described still stands

>>128303251
>if nasa observed they wouldn't get any observation done
Hopefully nasa isn't stupid enough to presume what is true and what isn't beforehand

>>128303050
Thanks!Holy fuck...
>>128303038
That sounds solid.Thanks for educating me stupid ass without calling me names.

>>128297498
OMG you're right. I thought that going to the best university in my state and devoting thousands of hours to high level physics and math courses would help me examine scientific evidence. But you've set me straight and now I know that watching YouTube conspiracy theorist videos is the only way to unlock the secrets of the universe. And let's be honest, Einstein was a Jew amirite? I'm going to uncuck myself from this whole science meme immediately.

>>128303038
>a few billion years of tidal pulls the Moon slows down and becomes tidally locked.
and just so happens to be just far enough away to give us total eclipses
how do people still not believe this was all created

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>>128303251
again, instead of driving where there could be something groundbreaking or nothing, they choose to drive into another direction where there is definitely nothing.
also what kind of science would it prevent from doing? looking at another ordinary rock 2km in the other direction?

>>128303593
According to science every moon is destined to become tidally locked.I didnt know that.

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>>128284595

>>128303773
according to physics, not science.

>>128303676
That selfi was explained to my satisfaction.But the question about the science prevention is pretty valid.

>>128294634
that one doesn't even make sense. Why do it in the first place

>>128303896
I look at physics as a science.Is it not ?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=hKadoX3rfcE

>>128303050
Lok'Tar

>>128304001
Coverups at this magnitude are bound to have mistakes. I think they are making a great job for only making so few mistakes.

>>128303439

>Hopefully nasa isn't stupid enough to presume what is true and what isn't beforehand

Have you not paid attention to academia lately?

That's the M.O.

>>128294006
Is this really from the moon landing? The thing wobbles like it's on strings and that fake explosion wow

>>128304043
perhaps "science" is too general, being a method of study rather than a discipline, which is possible, else people would be saying shit like "according to knowledge..." science isn't some amorphous knowledge-producing entity.

>>128303439
>>128303676
We spent $3 billion designing a jeep-sized remote-piloted robotic laboratory to look for evidence of liquid water an Mars and help us identify potential future manned mission and colonization sites. They're not going to waste time, money, and effort driving over to every fucking rock that looks vaguely like a thing when you run it through 20 filters on photoshop and squint your eyes.

I can just imagine you guys paying a thousand bucks to go on a safari tour, and instead of listening to the guide who's trying to show you all the elephants and lions and shit you paid to see, you just run around like an excitable dog

>HOLY SHIT STOP THE CAR!
>What?
>WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT!?
>It's a rock
>NO WAY THAT'S A FUCKING LIZARD!!
>It's a rock
>THAT'S TOTALLY A LIZARD!! DRIVE OVER THERE!
>Sir, if we only have a short window to see animals at the water ho-
>I WANNA SEE THE LIZARD!
>Very well, sir.
>WHAT THE FUCK IT'S JUST A ROCK! WHAT A WASTE OF TIME!
>I tried to tell you, si-
>HOLY SHIT STOP THE CAR! WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT!?
>It's a log
>NO WAY THAT'S A FUCKING CROCODILE!!

>>128288782
Look at that golden wrapping foil, how did it managed to stay attached?

>>128304459
I think thats the language barrier right there for you.Just like the US marine going ballistic for me calling him a soldier.Hungarian doesnt distinguis between types of soldiers,people who fight are soldiers and thats it.

>>128304525

>I'm looking for life
>but I'm going to ignore everything that doesn't look like what I'm expecting

Great process.

>>128289103
>ISS streams go offline at random intervals
Yea before it was night and 10min later it was afternoon.

>>128304525
Well, i think that rover is there to look at everything thats interesting.Its not only capable of looking for water for a reason.If thats a rock,well then it will be sure that its a rock.

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>>128304312
should be this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlGis35Epvs

>>128304525
except they might as well find the water where the suspicious rock is. the time doesnt run out, they can search for water all the time, but all it would take for example to debunk the mars spider for example would be to just snap a picture of the same spot a few hours later to see if its still there, wouldnt even have to go off track.
if they want water why not go to the poles? there should be ice there

>>128304861
The ISS is not even in space.Its in LEO.Thats something like 1/4 the distance space begins.
How do they carry out experiments to test stuff in space if they are not even in space?

>>128303587
>high level physics
Public consumption physics just teaches you the status quo, not actual science that explains things.

I bet you dont even know that Mars has very high levels of Xenon 129 in its remaining atmosphere.

>>128305031
>Xenon 129
What does that imply?I didnt know that.

>>128305021
Yea but all I'm saying it's not a live stream since there's too much time difference.

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>>128304848
>I'm looking for evidence of fossilized life on a planet with basically no atmosphere and an average temperature lower than Antarctica.
>Better waste time running after every rock that looks vaguely like an iguana.
OH SHIT LOOK! A LIZARD!

>>128305286
I dont think there are technical obstacles standing in the way of an actual live stream.Or?

>>128305352

>I'm looking for evidence of fossilized life on a planet with basically no atmosphere and an average temperature lower than Antarctica.

You say that like it's any less retarded than looking for water.

>>128305352
You're going to feel real silly when mars spiders become spacefaring and invade earth killing you and your family

>>128305271
That at some point fission weapons were used on Mars.

Even NASA admits to the Xenon being present but they cannot explain it given that this isotope is not present naturally anywhere. Stranger still is that concentrations of the isotope seem stronger around certain areas of the planet.

A whole lotta tinfoil in this thread.

>>128305352
>no atmosphere and average temperature lower than Antarctica
Do you know something we dont,that that exludes the possibility of life completely?
I had the idea Curiosity is there for exploration.

>>128305635
Now thats a holy fuck

>>128305436
Yea they could easily make a live stream, they certainly have more than enough bandwidth and when they go out of range they can connect to other servers around the world if they connect directly and still reach youtube with optimal latency.

>>128284595


NASA and other government/military space programs got us off of the ground. And they still have a role to play.

But our future roads into space will be paved by private enterprise.

>>128305894
>will be paved by private enterprise
I doubt private enterprise will see enough profit and planned amortization for such endeavors.

>>128305518
The difference is we have reasons to suspect there might have actually been water at some point - geological evidence of ancient lakebeds and streams, observations of subsurface water ice, etc. On the other hand, the only evidence we have for Martian Rock Spiders is 20-odd pixels from an MSL photo blow up and filtered in photoshop by some tinfoiler.

>>128305654
>There's no air and the average temperature on a Sunny day is like -55 C/-70 F
>LET'S LOOK FOR LIZARDS AND SQUIRRELS AND SHIT!

>>128305894
Thats why nobody gets to space if they dont work with NASA?Virgin Galactic?

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>>128296190
SPINE BEETLES CONTROL NASA!

>>128305654

Mars cannot support complex life. But microbial life is still a good possibility.

The best prospect for complex life will be the moon Europa, with it's vast oceans under it's icy surface.

>>128306209
Who are you to say that Mars cannot support complex life?
The only thing you can tell with sure is that Mars cannot support complex life as we know it.
See the little difference?

>>128297139
greek was wrong u punk

>>128284595
The people that work at nasa are all older dungeons and dragons playing white stem guys who are more likely to be right wing than the silicon valley types. Those people are definitely /ourguys/ but the government bureaucrat diversity quota hires in charge of PR and shit are definitely not /ourguys/

>>128306209
>Mars cannot support complex life.
not the wy we know it. but nature finds a way. just because we cant think of a way complex life can form there doesnt mean the nature cant think of one too.

>>128306098

It will be slow at first. But once we start uncovering resources off-planet, that's when you'll see some serious profit potential. And private industry and universities are very interesting is space research.
>>128306162


Virgin Galactic and Space X was just the beginning. Baby steps, as it were.

Private enterprise is already working with NASA. And there will be more cooperation in the future. Even within the future industry of private space travel.

>>128306209
>Mars cannot support complex life
That explains the Xenon 129 in its atmosphere, microbes can build fission weapons.

>>128306473
What would you need to keep be /ourguy/ and still keep the hoax a secret?I mean what information would you convince to keep it a secret.

>>128306622
So you dont know that Virgin Galactic just seems to be unable to reach space whatever they try.

>>128302966
what is it?

>>128306622
>It will be slow at first. But once we start uncovering resources off-planet, that's when you'll see some serious profit potential.
That's what you tell the public or a politician, in the corporate world you need graphs a real data of projections, risk management assesment etc.

>>128303050
woa what the fuk is that?

>>128306721
If revealing the secret got you sent to Guantanamo for the rest of your life

nasa is a bunch of government burocrats thay cant build shit

>>128307072
it's nothing. shut up, stupid.
t. nasa

>>128306341

Mars and it's conditions don't allow for it as far as we know. As for the "as we know it", that's always possible. But highly unlikely. When you start getting into exotic shit, you're getting into Star Trek/campy sci-fi territory.

But you are right. There could be surprises. As this anon says>>128306548, nature always finds a way.

>>128305031
>Public consumption physics
Don't use that term. It sounds like some SJW buzzword fuckery. I'm not an expert on Mars' chemical composition. I looked up the Xenon isotope and it seems interesting. What can you tell me about it anon?

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>>128307072
ask 2YY4/Sy9, he seems to have it all figured out and they are all just rocks. look at this magnificient flying rock

>>128294797
This

Mars should be a mining outpost. Throw an asteroid into orbit and take all the goodies then chuck it into the sun

This is pretty green as it would move all mining off earth.

>>128307243
holy shit aliens are real!

>>128289540
never released their telemetry or raw photo and videos. they were 'lost' how anyone loses the single greatest achievement in human history is beyond me

>>128307438
what the fuck!!

>>128290167

its not exactly fake, but they can not go any higher than leo. everyone knows this now.

>>128307123
So no "higher idea" would convince you to keep it shut.Thats troubling in terms of what are they hiding.

>>128307423
>Don't use that term
That is the term to describe the divide between public knowledge and the science used in black projects. I am sorry if it triggers you but it is a real term with a real definition.

What do you want to know about it? It found in the highest concentration levels in the Cydonia region of Mars, along with evidence of follow up strikes in the same area.

The specific isotope has never been found naturally in nature, only as a byproduct of fission reactions.

>>128306341
If you see hoof prints in the middle of a field in Kentucky, you think "horses" not "zebras".
If you're looking for your keys, you check pant pockets and counter tops, not the roof.
If you go looking for evidence of life as you know it on a planet that basically hasn't had an atmosphere or liquid water on its surface for a billion years, you look for evidence of bacteria in a lakebed, you don't go looking under every fuck rock in a hundred mile radius looking for spiders and snakes and shit.

>>128307290
For may dad a smartphone is star trek sci-fi territory.

>>128286364
>>Landing should have blown up a lot of dust
>>Moon has no atmosphere from which to affect dust movement via local atmospheric momentum
>>Expects same physics on Moon as on Earth

>>128290650
> no planes
> micro nukes
> directed energy weapons

they do it all the time

> hollow earth

lmfao

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>>128284595
Foreign faggots don't get an opinion on NASA. It's /America'sguy/ and doesn't work for you faggots.

>>128306819

Like I said before, baby steps. It's going to take time, money, and effort. Private corporations, unlike national governments, cannot print tons of fiat "funny money" to fund their space efforts to the point of being high-risk "crash programs". like NASA in the late 50's and 60's.
>>128307024

If NASA and other government space agencies start finding useful stuff that private ventures can make a killing on, that's when you'll start seeing those risk assessments, graphs, and power-point presentations. But to do that, private enterprise has to get a foothold in space, both with and without government cooperation.

>>128295722
What about the videos of women in space with flailing hair, moving against gravity?

Hair harness too?

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>>128307438
>it's low resolution because it doesn't real
>it doesn't real because it's low resolution

>>128307787
The difference is we are talking abount an enviroment where we might be searching keys,but we dont know what a key looks.
We check for it in pants pockets,but we dont know what a pants pockets looks like there.
Curiosity is nuclear powered.There is literally nothing to loose by examining every last bit of information other than braking the hoax.

>>128307847

But cell phones are rooted in technology that existed in the mid to late 1960's. Radio, computers, etc. It's easy to extrapolate future developments in existing technologies.

>>128308386
You think that because you borned in to it.60+ people simply dont understand the world,it has changed that much.From their viewpoint they live in the star trek age already.

if nasa was repurposed to make a house big n far apart n cheap and 1$ per sq foot, ending need for morrtgage, then it would earn it keep for once in its sad history

>>128308083
>If
And IF by then anyone believes them not to make their own research and IF they will allocate that money for the research and IF they find the venture profitable and IF they think the profit is large enough to justify such venture.
More than 100 years until greedy corporations will try to sink their teeth in the space profit making after the gov already paved they way as usual and is ready to bail them out in case of failure also as usual.

>>128308890
gov steals all its ill gotten gains from taxing corps and people and builds fuck all at 100x normal price example roads now fuck off you shit drinking commy

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>>128308786

>off kilter

>>128307786
Ive never heard that term. It doesn't trigger me it just sounds stupid. You didn't elaborate so I looked up a little bit more. An iodine isotope can decay into Xenon. So assuming this wasn't a natural process, what evidence do you have of an advanced society on Mars that were capable of making nuclear bombs?

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>>128284595
>(((NASA)))

>>128308890
You cant put a pricetag on everything.Pushing the borders of manking has no pricetag.

>>128307887
the exhaust fumes from the thrusters which essentially is gas would function as a temporary atmosphere and medium which would blow away the dust. am looking for a video now that i saw some time ago showing very well how the dust is blown up
i will post it when i find it

>>128284595
OP I totally agree with your sentiments.

I also think it's strange when they always cut out the live feed when they are about to circle around to the dark side of the planet and that they never show the moon.

I've also noticed that the "live feed" is on a rerun. I would casually watch the live feed on and off for about a week and realized it's the same footage over and over again. I remembered a few things like distinguishable clouds and such and I would even point it out in the comments.

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>>128308355
We're looking for keys, and we know what keys look like, but we're looking for keys in a building whose last door was added long before us or our parents or grandparents were born... so we're not wasting time looking around for fancy, newer, more complicated keys and I'm not going to chase after every shadow that vaguely resembles the transponder key for a new car.

>>128309476
Why not?Do you have something better to do?

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>>128292371
Oy vey

>>128294889
Because they can play this hoax to their public as well and the US Americans will shut their mouths or else.

>>128309766
But this is going on since the 70's.Back then they were supposed to be enemys.There is something so dark everyone agrees on being it kept the biggest secret of the planet.

>>128309556
Yes - looking for the keys that the evidence suggests I might actually find.

Sure, I *could* spend endless hours digging around looking for the keys to a brand new sports car in an old house full of splinters and tetanus, but I have absolutely zero reason or evidence to suggest I should expect to find them there.

>>128310131
You seem to have a very narrow mind.
You cant even think of the possibility of finding a photoalbum between the splinters.
Or the secret nazi gold.

>>128290167
Um you need to launch a rocket to get a probe to space. That's why we launch rockets.

>>128309369
>>128307887
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2As10bFzsw
here, this shows it pretty well, the one i saw previously showed the dust better, but you see it here as well. yet no dust on the foot of the capsule of the pic, nor any dust blown away from underneath the module

>>128301970
That's peculiar.

>>128284595

We really need to gas you people.

>>128309195
The isotope of Iodine that decays in xenon 129 is no longer around, however the xenon 129 it decayed into can be found in ground water and the levels present in the atmosphere of mars indicate that there were at some point in its past fissile weapons used above ground. As the levels are much higher than what we have on Earth, even after many above ground nuclear tests.

I dont care if it sounds stupid to you, that is the term we use.

>>128310863
Could an asteroid with high uranium content do nuke explosion when hitting the old Mars atmoshpere?Or is it definietly weapon grade nuke explosion remains?

>>128284595
My cousins work for NASA they she designs the orion craft while he designs the mars rovers they give me cool nasa shit whenever we see them NASA definently needs more funding even if you are a reatard and think the moon landings are fake the research and technology we got from it payed huge huge dividends like 10X more out of it then what we put in. With more nasa funding we can go to mars build a moon base, develop better materials with a couple billion invested in material science we might be able to squeeze out a space elevator wothing our lifespan

>>128311150
https://archive.org/stream/pdfy-sRmXR7I7gg2jEQFd/Brandenburg_djvu.txt

No body has been able to prove this man wrong.

>>128311324
>Therefore, the answer to Fermi's Paradox may lie on Mars: that
intelligent technological forces are loose in the universe that wipe out more primitive
species.
You are my friend now.I didnt know about this but its soo good im not alone.

>>128311178
my uncle works for nintendo, and he told me next year they will release super mario 128 :^)

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>>128311831
I dont have any of the really cool stuff like the concept art on me but there is literally no reasonfor me to lie about my cousins working there

>>128312596
ok, but that still doesnt mean they dont lie anon. one project of them being real doesnt mean all the other things are too. also there is the possibillity of them lying to you about their work

>>128294634
So obvious and openly faking? Hmmm.

>>128312929
You never make mistakes?

>>128307648
here the original pic
https://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/proj/msl/redops/ods/surface/sol/00688/opgs/edr/ncam/NRB_458574869EDR_F0390444NCAM00295M_.JPG

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>there are people in this thread who think the lunar landing and most of our current space progress and shit is completely fake and made up for some twisted sick agenda

>>128284595
>literally torpedoing huge piles of cash into space
>not a waste of money

It's a very expensive science porn, who people are like "hurr durr i wanna support science and shiet"

NASA should be disbanded completely.

>>128309238
it's pronounced nash-ha dumb stormfaggot

>>128314358
>there are people in this thread who think that NASA is the one government agency not lying as opposed to all the dozens of others which do nothing else but lying to us

as for the moonlanding i believe we went there, but were shown fake footage which was recorded beforehand so that if the mission were to fail they still could cover it up and sell it as a success.

>>128314528
>It's a very expensive science porn, who people are like "hurr durr i wanna support science and shiet"
thats the most harmless description of nasa i would subscribe too. like this is certainly one of the things they are doing, but there is also that fakery going on serving another purpose

>>128314528
have fun being irrelevant as our nation explores the universe, faggot

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>>128290605
>>128290650
/pol/ expedition to the North Pole when? let's get to the bottom of this bros

>>128315447
My opinion is that there are planetary defense weapons on the poles thats why its restricted.

>>128315078
>Have fun being irrelevant, while my government takes my money and shoots it into space.

Oh how "advanced" you are, lol.

As i said before, science porn for deluded people, like yourself. SpaceX did more in a year than NASA did in 60.

>>128315447
southpole would also be an option. as well as tibet has supposed entrances to the inner earth, and the untersberg might have some relvancy too.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/126352757

>>128315078
have fun watching your sciencefiction

>>128315723
SpaceX is using NASA tech FYI

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SpaceX launch happening in 15 min at

>>128314549
>>128314549
>>128314549

Thought it would relate to this thread cuz space.

>>128314898
>like this is certainly one of the things they are doing, but there is also that fakery going on serving another purpose

Yeah, trust me I know people who work at NASA, these aren't the 'best and brightest that will invent a time machine or something similar' - probably smarter than your average US federal employee, but that's not saying much.

>>128315796
yeah... and?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFoOqqSIYpw

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>>128284595

Flat earth conspiracy is the most retarded thing ever and most likely psyop to make people argue about stupid thing like that.

I flew on Concorde when I was kid and I can still remember seeing curvature of the earth because it flew so much higher than normat jet. I can also see ISS and satellites on the night sky.

I'm sure that NASA has secret space program.
They have antigravity and zero point energy but they don't want to release it to public because they couldn't control us anymore with limited energy.

Space is full of life. It's incredibly stupid to think that whole universe is just for us. Humans are still too much ape-like to be released into cosmos. We just multiply and start wars for living space. Public isn't ready yet to meet ayys but some have been in contact with them for a long time.

Werner Von Braun said in his deathbed that elites on earth will fake alien invasion in order to unite people under single government. Have you ever wondered why Hollywood usually describes aliens as hostile? They have been here for millions of years, there's no point of destroying humanity because they have genetically engineered us.

Time and gravity are related. If you control gravity, you will also control time. Some ayys could be humans from the future after millions of years of evolution.

>>128316224
Then what you wrote is bullshit.SpaceX didnt do anything more in a year than NASA.

>>128292022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_f364_Rx0o

about halfway through

>>128316514
Maybe because aliens are really hostile?Friendly lmaos would not let the elites lie to us in the first place.

>>128304861
The ISS completes one orbit in 90 minutes, it goes really fast because it's only a few hundred kilometers above the ground. The sun rises and sets 16 times every day on the ISS. So you the stream probably went out just before it was going over the sunlit side.

>>128316879
maybe the lmaos just want to see if we can unfuck ourself and thus proof to be worthy to interact with them.

>>128317080
Unfuck ourself in what way?Humanity will never unite under one cause other than war against lmaos.

http://www.de-la-terre-a-la-lune.com/vehicules-et-technologies/hoax/images/Ralph%20Rene%20-%20NASA_mooned_america.pdf

>>128314898
No because Nixon had prepared a now infamous speech in the event of the moon landing failing
>>128312877
Why tf would they lie I have some of the concept art this stupid nasa does nothing conspiracy is retarded

>>128305021
Most common definition of space is the Karman line, 100 km above sea level. The ISS orbits at around 400 km.
Most experiments are done to test how things react in a weightless environment. Although that can be recreated with things like parabolic flights, it's much more convenient to do on the ISS.

>>128317655
My logical definition of space is outside of at least the magnetic shield of the planet,but it should be outside of the gravity well.There may be a perfectly logical argument why my logic is flawed.

>>128317954
You aren't weightless in the ISS because there's no gravity, it's because you're orbiting the planet.
Orbiting a planet just means falling towards it but constantly missing due to your horizontal velocity. This creates a feeling of weightnessless just like a free fall attraction in a theme park.
Come on, this is a basic knowledge.

>>128317954
gravity basically is infinite in reach. at some point it just gets immeasurable but it still effects things.

>>128317517
how is a speach proof they didnt have fake footage? it could just be made to give more credibillity. also i doubt the president knows everything that goes on.
also i never said nasa does nothing, just that what we are presented is either heavily selected/censored or faked. behind the curtains they might do stuff. either way nasa doesnt serve to provide information for the common people

>>128318624
Im not arguing about gravity.Just that people believe the ISS is in space as its name has space station in it.Its not in space.

>>128318666
Nice numbers you have there.
Gravity may have infinite reach,but gravity well is a thing you can define.Earths gravity well is defined as ~6500 km from the surface i think.

NASA is cover for the real space program

>>128319250
But how did you get the soviets to not call on your fake stuff?

kinda comfy here since the flat earthers are all in the spacex thread

>>128320273
Also habening in London again

>>128284595
I support NASA and want to Trump throw billions at this agency. I also want a public declaration from the new administrator that "reaching out to the Muslim community" is no longer a core goal of NASA.

The ROI from NASA is yuge.

>>128320528
i didnt realize that. didnt they just lift the defcon saying there is no further danger after the grande incident?

>>128320530
i would agree under the premise that he fires all people currently working there and switches them for people who actually do shit

>>128321153
I dont really follow what bongs do,but i dont think they stepped down in defcon. If they did well thats ironic.But it somehow puts the ariane bombing in a different light.These fuckers didnt needed a bomb and still got like 20+ people.

>>128321584
googled quickly, and apparently im mistaken about the defcon status. no idea where i got it from.
and yeah, the weapons arent the problem, the people are

>>128322575
The problem is always with the people.Especially the bleeding heart ones.

>>128322897
pretty much

either way i made a new thread since this one ran full
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>>128284595
>Nasa is a fraud
Nice English there buddy.
"I believe NSA is a fraud" lol.

>>128323991
i dont think that wording is wrong anon.

>>128321153
>wants Trymp to fire all Obama stooges in NASA
I support this idea. Wasting money on space exploration is one thing - wasting it on Muslim outreach programs is another. Anyone in NASA using PC speak should be pink slipped.