I bought Jordan Peterson "Sort Yourself Out" Suite...

>>127536548
what's the meem program about?

please explain.

clean your room.

>>127536548
you should make your way on over to the future authoring program friendo

>>127536548
Feeling sorry for yourself is symptom of the same lack of accountability that produced the conditions you're complaining about.

>>127536548
I hope you get better friend

Dude how the fuck are we supposed to relate to your story? Your life is beyond fucked, the future authoring program won't fucking help you. You need serious fucking therapy. The most surprising thing is that you haven't killed yourself with a past like that. Literally a 1 in a million case.

>>127536736
It is quite literally helping you slay your dragon.

I am only one third into the past authoring program and so far it has been about figuring out how past events have affected your life and identity. I really thought this would be a meme program but I have cried a lot.

>>127536898

Do you think it would be a good idea to skip past authoring? I feel is important but I have heard some people skip it no problem.

>>127537226

I don't feel sorry for myself. But I just don't have happy little memories of high school.

Saying that for four years I didn't have any friends and the only thing I can remember from this time period is being humiliated and embarrassed by various people isn't me feeling sorry for myself. Is a statement of fact.

>>127537289

Fuck you faggot, I am not going to kill myself. And my life is better now. Not perfect but much better.

Yeah my situation was not common. Not super extreme either though.

>>127537380
>so far it has been about figuring out how past events have affected your life and identity
How does it do this? Is it filling out some questionnaire or "write us a blog post about that time you were bullied in highschool?" Like is it specific questions that give analysis or you basically on your own answering open ended questions that are supposed to reveal information to yourself?

Also do you assess it yourself or have to send it off for some memetician to psychoanalyze your shit? I'm interested in this but don't know how it works

>>127537751
>Is a statement of fact.
I agree, anon. Many of us feel the same way. It's just how it was. And now we move on.

Congrats on getting the JBP suite. I hope to myself someday, as it gives me hope, and I have read so much about how it helps.

And nothing wrong with a grown man crying once in awhile.

(you)

>>127536548
i bought the same thing too, its way too much writing so i didn't bother
>mfw will never be sorted

>>127537751
Hey bro sorry if it came across harsh, I never meant to imply you should kill your self. Do the authoring program if you think it will help. Best of luck friend.
I was merely pointing out that you are such an anomaly that we can in no way tell whether the program works based on your experience with it. Also, I despise Peterson for his lies.

>>127538912
Clean your room.

>>127539017
What kind of lies, anon?

>>127538574

Yeah correct. I had repressed emotions from this time period (it wasn't the best) but that time is now over, and my life is much different now a days.

With that said, Jordan's suite has made me really dig deep and remember these unpleasant memories.


Have you done the suite yourself?

>>127539017

Well I am now two years into my career (STEM), had my first girlfriend last year and doing alright in my part time job.

With that said there is another part of my identity (specially relating to family) that I have to figure out and "sort out", so after my worse college semester this last semester, I decided to take a break and examine my identity and "sort" myself in this respect.

>>127539017
no problem bro and yeah I probably misread your post, my bad. I do think I would probably need therapy but at the moment, that seems like too much of a money-sink/etc. I am just trying to get by and start my actual adult life.

Jordan Peterson is my favorite person that has been embraced by /pol/

I got his program too but I havn't done it yet. Thanks for reminding me.

Clean your room /pol/acks.

>>127539739
Not yet. I hope to in the near near future though.

>>127536548
is that all?
jesus christ you're a pussy

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>>127537289
Why are leafs such shitty posters?

Why do you need a program for such obvious shit?

>>127539509
He means he's a fedora and therefore doesn't like Peterson.

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>>127539509
>see pick related
>>127540213
Wrong.

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>>127536548
You know what they say OP. Sometimes you have to run away from home because your crazy swordmaster father tries to kill you at age 8, then kill a man at 13 in duel no one believed you could win, survive the most brutal battle in Japan's history at age 16 on the losing side and years after appear in the capital where you maim one of the best swordsmen there, kill one of his brothers and then murder his uncle and youngest brother who's 13 by jumping out of a tree at night as they walk around with 30 guards trying to find and kill you. That's what legends are made of.

>>127540100
Nice pic.

>>127540131

Perhaps he didn't had the philosophical maturity to deal with his problems.

>>127540213
I understand.
>>127540360
Lol, I was writing when you posted this.
To be honest I don't know the guy or previous/current views on the subject so I wont judge, but I hope he's now aware of the Jew (babylonian talmudist) issue.

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>>127540560
If you are redpilled on the jew I suggest the skipping this faggot. It will make your rage. Bitch talks about truth being the ultimate virtue but he's too afraid to call out the kike. Hypocrisy infuriates me.

>>127539955
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>>127540070
why, what was your life like?

>>127540740
I shill him to my friends that need guidance.
I try to be there form them but I cant do it 24/7
hopelly my friends are quite redpilled on the jew issue, not to the same extent that I am (read: knowing precisely which branch of jooz are really the worst) but its something.

Anyways, have a good day.

Sounds like my childhood minus medical problems. By the time I got to high school I was over attempting to socialise though, I just kept being into reading and studying (and computers/internet once I got one)

>>127539739
>Hey dude sounds like things are going well. Sometimes smart people just over think things and therefore are more prone to social anxiety, having tons of friends is just a meme. It's a lot of drama you don't want to deal with. Focus on your studies, and stay away from weed and alcohol and I guarantee you that things will sort selves out by themselves. Time heals all wounds brother and you are a smart man, so things can only get better from here. Just please stay away from drugs and alcohol for that will degenerate you.

>>127540360
Well I've never heard him say that - not that he never did - but he's either changed his mind or moderated his opinion away from that. Personally I think he's pretty redpilled but has to hide it.

>>127540740
He just realized his pension will stop existing if every man in this country stop giving a fuck about it. 90% percent of the shit he says is just quotes... I admire the fact that he is standing up to the left, but he is not the answer.

His stance is pretty much a "MAGA" for individuals... Do what they did in the past and everything will be alright! Just do what your parents did!

The problem with his theory is that he forgets the fact that "doing what they did in the past" caused the current situation. Burying your head in the sand and riding the line wont save the west from it's decadence.

>>127540806
you don't want to know

>>127541028
Yea he's good for normies I guess. I am probably being too harsh but in this world its hard not to be bitter considering all the kikery that is going on.

Take care, brother.

>>127536548
being a reject for no cause is the best painful lesson, you're not a slave to herd conformance.

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>>127541352
Before I leave I'll post two pics for you.

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>>127540740
Yeah, well, it's true, he's coming up to the Jews slowly and his courage isn't infinite but he's doing good work.

>>127541326
oh really, is that why I asked? Just tell me.

is writing about shitty things that happened to you that you repressed supposed to be novel or helpful in any way? i really hope there's more to that shit.

>>127541298
He said that the alt-right always degenerates into anti-semitism, and that that is an over-simplistic view. Basically completely discarding the notion in his leafy, condescending way.
So from that we can extrapolate that in his belief, Hitler's war against international jewry was over-simplistic. Hes a leaf. end of story.

>>127536548
did he personally help you sort yourself, or did u just get some videos?

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>>127541472
What is this shit? Stop trying to be vague and tell me what you are thinking, I am not reading through some autist's copy pasta. Dude I could care less about /pol/'s "redpills". My grandfather was a concentration camp guard and sported a hitler moustache in communist Hungary. /pol/ has taught me literally nothing new.

>>127541161
That's kind of an abuse of greentext.

Here's an awesome piece on why what you were in school doesn't matter compared to what you are afterward.

http://paulgraham.com/nerds.html

It's long but it flows and punches. tldr - school is like prison, in both places there's no real achievement so people form cliques like apes do. But once outside real achievement matters and you'll pull away from the cliquers.

>>127541860
Regarding your bitterness that I understand it, and that it's understable to be like that when you're pretty much aware of most schemes ocurring in the background.

Don't take it personal.

Godspeed, leaf.

>>127541433

Even in the face of the horrors of the world. We must bear the suffering and make the world a better place. If we can incorporate the shadow like Jung said. Then we can be virtuous being.

>>127541324
Well, it's the only real solution. We won't defeat the kikes like a villain to defeat in an RPG. If hitler didn't do it, nobody will.
The only thing we can do is become so strong and virtous as to be inmune to the kike, and he is making exactly that with a lot of people. He will loose a lot of influence if he started denouncing the jews. He doesn't need to name the them also, when people get really strong, they discover it by themselves.
And I think this is way more effective than trying to convince brainwashed people of conspiracies.
Feed a man, vs teaching him how to fish.

>>127540100
we are surrounded by shitty weather and shitty people and we are right next to a much richer county.

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>>127536548

God speed Anon. Get stronger. The best revenge is a life lived well.

>>127542173
Oh no, it's someone elses fault you're a failure.

>>127541921
yes the gtxt was an accident. Regarding HS, they're just kids man. At the end of the day, I am not striving to pull away from anybody. Europeans are my brothers and I wish all of them the best, the nerds, the jocks, fucking everybody. I love my race, and I love my people, and the stupid shit that went on in school is all just children being stupid, nothing serious or worth holding on to.
>>127541981
There you go brother, could have just said that. I agree, but life is still beautiful. I don't let it bring me down, but I do hold people like peterson accountable for what they say - doesn't mean I lose sleep over it

- God bless you Argenbro

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>>127542203What he said>>127536548

>>127542130
I agree to some extent. But I am suprised you don't feel pissed off when you have a leaf preaching truth as the absolute virtue and then lying to your face with this horseshit that the central nature of postmodernism is rooted in French philosophers from the 60s and 70s, as opposed to the Jewish Frankfurt school from the 1920s. I mean its clear lies friend, you can't tell me that doesn't bother you.

>>127541613
Well some do oversimplify it (I'm naxalt). I don't deny he's at core a leaf though. Also I think it will be hard for him to go nazi, since studying them as examples of /the nature of evil/ is how he started his career. He's said 'flattering' things about them though - eg that their nature isn't due to wanting nothing to change but out of an excess of orderliness. He's enough of a regarder of reality that I think he'll come around if he hasn't already.

I'm tempted to start giving him $50 / month so I can grill him / tempt him on the JQ, but, can't afford it right now.

>>127542511
No, it doesn't. Because he preaches Nieztchiean Truth, and that means truth must be functional as well as veridic to be the truth. Truths that produce harm are black truths. It took me a while to understand it, but it's the reason why those people that are rude as fuck defend themselves saying "hey! at least im honest!" while everyone hates them.

>>127542537
Nah anyone who expects him to go full nazi is an autist. Since when did questioning anything jews do corrolate with fucking nazism? Don't you see thats the very game these kikes invented to protect themselves? We cannot let them stiffle discourse like this. History is history. If this leaf is comfortable calling out the french intellectuals, he should have no problem doing it with jews. There are ways intelligent people can deliver arguments that don't degenerate into notions of racial supremacy and the such. If anyone could do it, it is peterson.

>>127542242
HUEHUEHUE go fuck youself

>>127536548
Saem thing happened to me but I don't give a fuck. People would refuse to sit or stand next to me in class and during assembly. i was mocked constantly too and called all sorts of depraved and nasty things.

They're animals and I have no sympathy for anything that happens to them. Human goodness is a meme. I'm not hansom looking or tall so people aern't nice to me and think that they can walk all over me and treat me liek shit.

Jokes on them because simply don't care about them. They can't hurt my feelings because in Oder to do so I would have to care about them or think they had anything meaningful to say. I don't. They're little more than obstacles in my way that can be broken and removed

>>127536548
I never felt alone. Even now. I'm just grateful that I got away and survived. I can''t stand being in close proximity with others anymore. I won't tolerate their bullshit. Better to watch on at a distance

>>127542755
You are wrong. He tells lies masquerading as truth, that is the biggest sin you can commit in the real of Nieztchiean Truth. There is nothing hurtful about the truth about history. Absolutely nothing. Black truth is telling somebody something true with the INTENT to harm them. If you get upset over a truth that is INTENDED to inform, then that is on you, and not the truth teller. You are confusing the issues.

>>127542796
He doesn't want to see it, so it'll have to force itself on him.
> There are ways intelligent people can deliver arguments

We need someone to do that with Peterson.
Some evil bastard could spend their 30 minutes with Peterson reading him 'Culture of Critique' :)

>>127536548
>us

I had plenty of friends throughout school, faggot.

>>127537226
I had no control over their actions. I was constantly targeted because I was perceived as weak. I understand that now. Perhaps intelligent aggression would've served me better against them.

I guess back then a part of me wanted to beleive in the inherent good of people and didn't understand what was happening to me. Oh how I've learnt since then. It's one hell of a teacher...

>>127541921
The sad thing bout is is that paul graham, not a person of small intellect is wrong.

Try getting some facetime with a vc if you aren't stanford or another ivy. you know the ones throwing a fit over halloween costumes.

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>>127536548
>People like us
Ummmm, no.

Sorry kiddo, im sure most of us never ate lunch in the bathroom stall. That's sad and beyond hopeless. No amount of sorting will make you enjoyable to others or fix your mental deficiencies.

Really? You at in the stalls of the bathroom? You gice us a bad name. Leave loser.

>>127543032
I think he already knows, and that's even more disturbing. I live in toronto and I am planning on confronting him with this. I have family members that were worked to death in the Gulag so I have a pretty good speech prepared.

Guys I found the AMERICAN version of JP, a southern gentleman who covers 20th century philosophy from Heidegger to Baudrillard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wetwETy4u0&list=PLA34681B9BE88F5AA


>>127542511
Yes, the Frankfurt school was the birth of cultural marxism, based on the Marxist fundamental view of oppression. Marcuse studied there.

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>>127543353
Ah , reminds me of my childhood. Being ignored. Utter bliss.

>>127540740
look what happened to ernst zundel. i don't blame anyone in canada for stopping short of naming the jew.

>>127543276
Really? Be careful not to come on so strong that he shuts down.

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>>127543026
I don't agree with that. There are many sects of judaism, and a lot of non-practioner jews and by speaking reckless about them, you can hurt of lot of trully inocent people.
It's a complex issue, and it's better to not say anything when there are other more effective ways. Like I said before, some things are to be discovered on your own. The truth about ww2 and the jewish problem is one of those things.
Also, if telling the truth destroys you, what good it does? It's like the old saying about paladins in D&D. A dead paladin can't do good anymore, if you see the orc army, do you charge because you are compelled by your oath? Thats just being stupid.

>>127542036
I agree with you.
Everyone should try to be the best version of themselves, for their own sake, their family/friends/acquaintances and for mankind as well.

Everything else, is just a distraction.

>>127543353
>Yes, the Frankfurt school was the birth of cultural marxism, based on the Marxist fundamental view of oppression. Marcuse studied there
Bro I did not know that, thank you for this info. This just further proves my fucking point. God damn this leaf.
So if this is true, surely Peterson knows, so why won't he mention it? Would it not make sense to go to the root of the issue, as opposed to just talking about one of the branches of this disgusting tree? Of course it would! by going there would mean facing the uncofortable topic of jews!
Peterson wants you to man up and slay the dragon, unless the dragon is a jew, in that case he wants you to run away in fear like a bitch.
Man fuck this leaf.

>>127536548
There's literally millions of microscopic shit particles flying around in a bathroom stall. Trust me, I know. Never eat food in there, and always breathe through your nose.

>>127542130
The answer is to provide a more effective solution. A new social contract that takes modern life into account. He is preaching 2000 year old values (values that I agree, but that isn't the point). The old social contracts were designed to deal with old social problems.

Christian values were intended to transform barbarians into civilized people... We are currently dealing with an overly civilized society (or a overly socialized population, if you'd prefer). Continuing along this path will lead to collapse as the weight of our own altruism becomes to much to bare.

What needed now is essentially Christianity 2.0... A philosophy that takes both ends of the spectrum into account. Jordan Peterson actually touched on this concept in one of his talks; "every man has the power to do both good and evil," or something along those lines.

Christianity only teaches people how to be "good," because, at the time of it's creation, most people were far too evil. Right now, what we are lacking is a philosophy that teaches people how to be the right kind of evil. Most people would think that is a bad thing, but most people also see competitiveness, confidence, and things of that nature as "evil."

Without this "guide to evil" we end up indulging in the worst kinds; narcissism, violence, and much of the other plagues we are currently facing.

>>127543779
>why won't he mention it
because it's canada and he'll get thrown in jail.

>>127543674
You can't hurt innocent people with the truth you fucking faggot. You hurt them by no expressing yourself, and thereby festering that energy untill it blows up into another world war you unbelievable imbecile.
You perspective is pathetic and weak. It is no use talking to you. You may even be a jewish shill. Fuck off.
>>127543523
Look what happened to Jesus? Zundel is a hero, literally an archetype Peterson admires. Just more hypocrisy from him my brother.
>>127543545
He's a grown man. He can handle it brother. I don't intent to pussy foot around hypocrits. I actually love peterson, and thats why i intent to be straightforward.

Remember when i feel into the 'chaos' he refers to as a teen.basically if your 'logic solves everything type' without moral and ethical fortitude,you can fall into an analytical trap after of asking the question ;why shouldn't i kill myself'.Made me understand Nietzsche a lot better

>>127543353
Thanks man, I'm trying to learn about baudrillard and his ideas more

>>127536548
jesus fucking christ you robot, stop dragging down the reputation of pol

t. chad

>>127544111
Bro. You gotta be the hero, that is one thing peterson preaches - although does not practice - correctly. Besides, you can't get thrown in jail for that, I don't know where you are getting all this from, but i sense a lot of fear in you brother, you must purge that.

>>127540131
>Why do you need a program for such obvious shit?

It's a scam, desperate people take it.

Which programme of the three have you chosen?

>>127544315
$15 bucks a pop dude is getting rich.

>>127544016
I think the problems we face are always the same, they are eternal. What isn't working right now, are our political and economical structures. Those are outdated because they were invented in a time were we didn't have all this tech capability. We could make amazing things if not for programmed obsolecense and economic interests and we end up having bullshit like passing a tax for solar energy house owners.
The spiritual/moral fight however is the same since forever. When I read something like the epic of gilgamesh and I can find meaning and complexity about life in it, it makes me realize that we didn't change at all. We just have bigger toys.

>>127542864
justin?

>>127536548
Embrace the introversion, don't fight it. Chads and Stacies are not significantly happier, trust me. Stop looking at other people's lives. Life is little more than punching out the clock until the weekend and finding little things that give you pleasure in the evenings and during the weekend. That's it. Don't put pressure on yourself, who cares about other people, they're miserable excuses for conscious beings.

>>127542864
My friend, are you sure these things did not start at home? A lot of times kids that get bullied give off that energy because they are bullied at home. If I had been your father you would have clocked those little cunts in the mouth. Remember brothers, kids are kids and they act dumb, but most of the shit start at the homestead. Have a hard think about your family situation, and if you find that they beliletled you in anyway, I suggest confronting them about it. Tell them to FUCK OFF and to shove it up their ass. That will result in a cathartic release and you will feel immeasurably better, and might even forgive your classmates.

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>>127542537

Peterson has mentioned multiple times that Jews were largely responsible for Bolshevism, and he constantly references Solzhenitsyn. If you don't know that author, you're not as "woke to the JQ" as you need to be.

So to say Peterson doesn't understand the JQ is at best naive.

However, I disagree with his conclusions. Peterson is taking on the impossible task of trying to wind up our unraveled Western civilization. Even in the highly unlikely event he succeeds, Western civilization will be a battered, uglier version of its old self, doomed to repeat its old mistakes because we never addressed the reason we were unraveled to begin with.

His current bible series is a perfect reflection of this. He's trying to draw out some deeper profundity to Christianity rather than crossing into the abyss that lies beyond Nietzsche.

>>127544130
This is way we loose all the time against ((them)) people like you mistake bravery with stupidity. Don't you know that all war is deception? No war was won by being brave and straight foward. If you are virtous, and reckless, you are just looking for death. And then who will fight the good fight? You need to be virtous, and smart about it, or you will sacrifice everything in the name of ideals. How can that be truth if it's far from functional?

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Thanks bros. I am sorting myself well into the early hours of the morning. And, I am very optimistic, my life has gotten A L O T better since I left high school and I believe it can be even better as continue to work on myself.

>>127543053

that's great for you faggot.

>>127543260

Yeah I was weak. I craved being accepted and having even one friend. Yet this desperation and lack of mental fortitude made me toxic to most people (with self-respect), and thus I did eat lunch alone in a bathroom stall, and it was hopeless.

I outgrew this neediness and I have a much stronger/congruent sense of self, after a lot of self-improvement and just having certain experiences as an adult.

>Leave loser

No, fuck you faggot. My story is my story and it is what it is. I have nothing to feel ashamed off. Yes, I ate lunch alone in a bathroom stall when I was in high school. And now You and >>127543053 have to now share this board with me, the bathroom stall guy, that's life. Hopefully that makes you think

>>127544821
As a man, life tends to get better as you grow up.

>>127544428

In my opinion one of the solutions is to preach to your relatives and try to influence other people's lives positively. Even though it's a hard task because you can't split yourself in 100 and spend time with someone, try to reach to them and listen to their insecurities, problems and whatnot.

Actually we have a pretty powerful tool, which is social media, ofc (((they))) can shut you down if they're ever mentioned, but if you intend to make peoples live better by teaching what is to be a virtuous person.

You can change the world*, my friend.


*the civilized one, at least, places with warfare/narco issues and the like, sadly are out of the scope for the time being.

>>127539739
>Well I am now two years into my career (STEM), had my first girlfriend last year and doing alright in my part time job.
Are you also a newfag?

You're talking like you're a really special case who needs to "sort yourself out". You're not, and especially not here. I recommend you check out /r9k/. It's full of people with pasts like yours and worse. But the key point is that they're still friendless kissless virgin NEETs.

You're just a normie who used to be a loser.

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>15 minutes in
>free speech is jesus christ brah

Comfy Jordan's Sundays are going to be the best bloody thing of my summer

>>127536548
Listen, Chads see the problems as well. Yeah, they get laid, and yeah, they might end up financially more secure. But do you really think they don't notice the shallow emptiness of our current society and system? It's crushing for everyone. Society doesn't go this crazy if everyone doesn't see it. The left thinks the emptiness and crushing hate is from oppression, but they are wrong. If they were right, only the "oppressed" would feel it, but that's just not the case. The valueless, degenerate society we live in is utterly corrupting, but we are fighting because we hope to replace the ashes as it burns with something better.

>>127544821
He brother see >>127544766
Make sure your troubles are not misplaced. Most problems are result of problems at home.
>>127544785
He has NEVER mentioned Jewish complicity in Bolshevism. Fucking, ever. You don't think I know of Solzhenitsyn? You think you're so special that you have? Buddy, as I said my grandfather was a concentration camp guard and I have family members who fucking died in the fucking gulag. Worked to death lie animals. I know more about the horrors of Bolshevism then you could ever know. A god damn burger trying to preach to me about that which my family has spilled countless blood to combat. Rich.

>>127537289
Bruh...

I'm all for shitting on pollacks when they go full dipshit fash and start blaming their shit on other races, but when people are trying to figure their life out and improve and you try to fuck it up...

You are not a leaf, you are a weed

>>127541921
This was a great and profound read anon. Glad I stumbled upon it and can really relate to it.

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K, I've given it some time and allowed a healthy amount of comments to be made. I think there's two levels to Peterson and his pronouncements.

On one level, he is a great beacon that helps frame the narrative of life. A lot of people need this as they are not awakened and aware. On this level, Peterson provides a thing of value and of great service to those wanting to ascend to a higher plane. He provides a healthy introduction, wide ranging framework, and gives good guidance along the way. He does so by dissecting a wide range of historical works and practitioners of the art so that it is palatable to a healthy intellectual mind.

(((If you're still getting yourself sorted out, stop reading here and I mean it)))

The issue with Peterson is that next level.. The metaphysical level that he constructs his works on. Those who are at this level understand what I'm talking about. It's at this level that a lot of his pronouncements have issue and he'd find a hard time battling a well established initiate with many of his proposals. It's at this level that his works only scratch the surface. I'll dive right into via his exposition here :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdrLQ7DpiWs

In this video, wow.. He covers a breathtaking amount with great skill. The thing is, there is so much more depth to it. There are soo many conflicting aspects and open ended questions and flows. It's on such a metaphysical discussion that you see that Peterson's public approach is one of more blue-pilled practicality. It's on such discussions that you see him skirt very dark and deep topics and just write it off as : Evil.

>>127545042
I agree. We can get our shit together, then help others to get their shit together. A strong, inteligent and trully independant comunity can't be mindcontrolled as easily by ((them))
The path of improvement inevitably takes us to evaluate the influences we have on us, and whats trully ours and what isn't, and that frees you from ((them)) more than any other thing.

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>>127536548
>Life is tough and full of suffering.
You had to pay money to figure that out ?

>>127536548
You sound like a loser. Either that or youre making things sound worse than they were. Its unlikely that no one ever said or did a nice thing for you in your life. And if thats really the case then it means you were never nice to anyone else either. People tend to respond in kind.

>>127544786
You are suffering from over-intellectualization, and its justifying your cowardice.
>No war was won by being brave and straight foward
Bold statements from a petty coward.
You cowardace clouds your intellect. For you do not see that speaking truth about the JQ can be done in a smart way that doesn't require blind judgments as you seem to imply, But you see, the fear corrupts your view on this matter. Thats why there is no point in us discussing this.

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>>127540740
>If you are redpilled on the jew I suggest the skipping this faggot.
>Doesn't know Jordan's fetish for Solzejitsen

He won't name the Jew for obvious reason but he is pretty informed about it the way he always speaks about communism

>>127544428
>I think the problems we face are always the same, they are eternal.
Horse shit... Sure, you can find meaning in ancient sagas, but they only cover one half of what it means to be human (the good half). No one ever talked about the pitfalls of being too nice back in the day because everyone was an asshole.

I agree entirely with you statements on government.

>>127536548
How are you better off for feeling sorry for yourself, anon? That's the problem with this hackery. It's nothing more than a scheme to line Peterson's pockets. It doesn't (((help))) you at all.

Worse, it's probably quite harmful for you, since you are writing down your deepest insecurities. Do you not understand the damage that can do to you? What happens if an enemy of you gets it? Would you want that published on the internet? Would you want a future employer to be able to google your name and come up with that? What would that do to you, anon? What kind of scumbag would trick you into betraying yourself in that way?

>>127545721
There's one video where he comes damn close to naming the Jew, but then stops and thinks about it for a minute before deciding to pass on the subject.

>>127545795
this is the most jewish thing i've read today

>>127545684
>Reads one sentence I wrote
>Makes over-reaching broad judgments that he has no way of verifying because he suffers from mental illness
I can't help you. None can.

>>127545684
>Can't spell Solzhenitsyn
>It's even in Chrome autocorrect
>Doesn't know that Peterson defended Solzhenitsyn as not being anti-Semitic

>>127545928
You know I'm right.

>>127545928
same

>>127546032
all I know is that you're /leftypol/

>>127545865
>oh shit, goys, our favorite leaf who constantly preaches truth as the ultimate virtue almost said the truth but then pussied out! /ourguy/ !
Fucking this place is lost.

>>127545865
I hope he will speak more on this in his biblical lectures, like the differences of god in the old vs new testament

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>>127536548
In my 30 years of living on this Earth, i havent seen more wise and articulated person than Doc P. Keep it up anon leaf, you are not alone..

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>>127545366
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You see this in his declaration that absolute intellect is truly evil. In his off hand reference that this is indeed what Lucifer was and what led to his fall. He then goes on to compound it and say that's what the Tower of Babylon story is all about.

If you you aren't initiated and haven't wrestled with such conceptions and even if you had, at first you're like wew lad.. You pause the film and you're think : wait a minute.. I get what he's saying but something doesn't sit right... And you're right. This is the big 'Dragon' in the depths that hangs over the world. Yet, Peterson skirts slaying it. He just calls it Evil and takes a step back and says .. Yeah, I'm not touching that.. That's just dark man.

But the issue here is : yes.. That's the big elephant in the room. That is the issue with even a God and the idea of judgement.. Is that such a conceptualization can be unmasked as a proverbial dragon... And why did he create the dragon knowing what he was? If not to allow for the potential of free-will? the tempting and existence of ungodlike paths...

And then wew... Suddenly the sky gets pealed back and you're in a whole new territory and level of dragon slaying that Peterson declares as : Evil.. Just stay away from that shit and don't become it. But, by this, you're just right back to where you started.

You break out of a story within a story and realize you are greet'd with the same issue and dragon only bigger and the depth deeper.

Now, I can get into this further but I just wanted to highlight the issue beyond Peterson's commentary which he declares as just being : Evil and goes full stop. His framework is practical in the everyday life sense and in the intro aspects of metaphysics. However, it stops there (which is fine for most) and you end up in Peterson's workshop and you see the true metaphysical and infinite battle beyond an introductory awakened life.

>>127536548
Does JP specifically say something about highschool?

High school is the extended childhood portion of Prussian education. It's all behavior modification. Teaches the plebs to bully and self police each other. Don't look too much into it for true guidance. It was literally socialist brainwashing.I wasn't as socially outcast as you, but i knew not to take any of that pleb slop life seriously.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeEWPbTad_Q

What is the benefit of bringing up unpleasant memories? What's the next step?

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>>127545795
>not a leaf
The fuck?

>>127546330
pay another 15$ to find out!

>>127536548
Hello lebbit, hows it going did you not figure this shit out BEFORE some faggot canadian shithead TOLD you to figure it out? Seriously you fucking idiots need to be told like little fucking sheep sick of your shit at least on oldpol we could think for ourselves and come to the conclusion. This shit is just fucking pathetic.

>>127546330
IDK shit about what JP preaches, but i like to backtrace really traumatic events. Find out the who, what, when, where, why then decide if that train of thought was worth it.

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>>127546425
Is this just some self help scam for people who aren't self aware enough to reflect on this shit without being told to?

>>127546143
Now who's arguing like a Jew?

>>127546145
You are lost. But it's okay. The Day of the Rake draws nigh.

>>127546146
I watched one on Genesis. I was thoroughly unimpressed.

>>127545237
Calm yourself its fucking reddit idiots. Its obvious as fuck peterson is a fucking reddit personality. I bet all these faggots have no idea who fucking Kevin Mcdonald is.

>>127546604
lmao of course brother. but that's not really an attack on peterson. someone has to take care of the intellectually less fortunate.

>>127546628
lmao take your drug addict loser bullshit and advocate suppressing your insecurities elsewhere

>>127546674
I'll slaughter you like the limp writsted 60% person you are.

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>>127540471
stop. fucking. posting. god damn this post is reddit as fuck jesus christ fucking what has happened christ sake

>>127545237
>He has NEVER mentioned Jewish complicity in Bolshevism. Fucking, ever.

I distinctly remember a video where he spoke about 200 Years Together, and the need for both Jews and Russians to hold themselves and each other collectively responsible for the horrors of communism.

Although nuance doesn't take well to someone who's spun up in a blind rage.

In High school I didn't have any problem, like, I talked with people and spent time with them, but I didn't hold any friendship from that time. To be honest, I'm a loner who wants to be a loner, who does a job that can pay for his University now, and that will pay for his escapism material later on,knows how to behave in public (no anxiety or shit like that- it would be difficult working considering that I work in public- I just prefer spending my free time alone) and doesn't want to be in any relationship because those leave time from what I want to do. How fucked am I?

>>127546713
There are a total of 2 videos now, it takes time before he really gets into the subject, his first one was more of an introduction

>>127546789
That's fine, call me names. Who's the unsorted one now? Better yet, don't listen to me. Shout to the world what a conflicted and scared individual you are. Tell people exactly how to hurt you in the unique ways that only you could ever figure out about yourself. See how well that works for you.

>>127546843
You speak as if you're comfortable with your current situation, yet at the end you want to know how fucked you are
If you are truly happy with your state of life, why are you asking if people think of it as fucked or not?

>>127546903
literally taking swings in the dark
you should incorporate your shadow self anon

>>127546330

Know yourself my man.
The process of insight is what apparts you from your average sheep.

Become aware of anything that could make you feel afraid, said, anxious, angry, anything that could defile you.


You will never fail again.

>>127543586
this was the meme that got me into peterson

>>127536736
>>127538287
I haven't done it myself but from what I understand there are past, present, and future authoring suites designed by Peterson, and basically yea it's just self-analysis to try and get to the root of some of your past problems (lingering embarrassing memories from when you were young for example) to try and dissect those memories, figure out where you are now, and where you want to be in the future.

From what I understand the program tries to achieve this by getting you to look at things outside the box, so you have to have an open mind and be willing to hear new ideas and realize you're a flawed person. I assume it's something along the lines of pointing out how behaviors have certain results and that repeating those same behaviors will usually mean the same result, and how you can benefit from changing your behavior to achieve new/different results, that line of thinking anyway.

I actually bought the program a few months back when he had a sale on his website, it was only a few dollars iirc, I just haven't gotten around to it yet.

>>127546827
>started with: Peterson has mentioned jews multiple times
>now at: I distinctly remember that one time, although I still have no sources
Weak little man. Fuck off with your blind assumptions you mentally challenged disgrace.

>>127546997
That was a joke. We're still on /pol/

>>127546604
THIS. I fucking called it from the beginning he started this shit. Self help garbage.

>>127537226
It's not feeling sorry, I had to go through 9 years of OP's shit and that stuff scars you. I still don't like irl contact with people and always distrust them.

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>>127544428
Very solid reflections and post Jap-Anon.
It is on this topic and level of analysis that I see Jordan Peterson commit to his classic (that's just evil and dark man.. I'm not touching that topic and you should stay away from it too) full stop.

Jordan Peterson is doing incredible work w.r.t to laying out a blueprint to becoming awakened and aware. I'm sure he's aware of the levels beyond this and wrestles with them personally but you always see him (((in public))) wall that off and close it off as being the taboo dark/evil topic that .. wew lad just stay away.

I understand why he does that but ultimately it's going to come to this. I do acknowledge he's doing great work by just getting people to open their eyes but I think a number of people know and understand that there are levels to this shit.

>>127545202
The Chads voted for Trump. Beta Faggots voted for Hillary. Chads joined Martin Sellner and proclaimed their devotion to keeping their country white. The Chads see the degeneration of Western Civ and they weep. For they take the spoils (easy pussy) and they later revile at the rottenness of such spoils.

Chads are the savior in the streets. They are aesthetic; every time you see a female journo interview an attractive right wing male, they are in awe. The meme war is fought by us.

>>127547029
I understand, well, try to not procrastinate man.
Dunno if they are lectures or just a book, but devote some time to it everyday.

It's time spent on someone important:
(You)

>>127545754
Yes they did, read "The Histories" or ANY history written in the era (Rome to Byzantium).

>>127536548
Stories like this make me glad I literally slept through 75% of high school. I was a total friendless loser but shit doesn't have much impact on you if you're asleep the whole time.

>>127536548
Sorry you had to go through that, bro.
Wishing you strength for the future, and happiness, too - or as my father would say,
"Happiness? Don't try to be "happy", try to be "content"."

>>127547157
look, peterson might be selling self-help stuff

but on some level, he's saying shit that works

go to a normal psych. they will tell you to "Be yourself, be confident! getting punched in the face? it's all in your head, you can be happy!"

peterson at least acknowledges that tehre are circumstances in which a man CANNOT be happy. and he helps drag people out of there.

>>127536548
I just wanted to tell you that there are a million other people are exactly like that. You aren't special you fucking idiot and the fact you are complaining about shows how fucking infantile you are.

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>>127547666
Ladyboy satan is wise, it seems.

>>127543215
totally understand.
you can't know everything when you're a kid or teen.
we learn from our experiences.
take care of yourself, first.

I haven't watched his bible videos yet, but I've got Resurrection of Logos downloaded to my PC and it's real fucking long but I'm about to start it, how good is it by JBP standards?

>>127546843
You sound like you just want some analysis on yourself even though you're simply low in extraversion and that's that. The fact that you're asking "How fucked am I?" implies that there's some missing part of yourself you feel could be fixed with some magic answer. Do you feel like your escapism will give you more long-term fulfillment than realistic relationships?

>>127547666
look, reddit I have no fucking idea the garbage you are talking about because that is already acknowledged by a good psych. even the without if you have a fucking brain you yourself could come to these conclusions and people over 25 sure as fuck have unless they are little babby children with sub 100IQ

>>127543260
says a kid who's still in high school.
if that

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>>127544785
Exactly. This is exactly what I noticed in :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdrLQ7DpiWs

You hit the nail on the head.
The only reason I can assume why he classically does this is that he's committed to a role of getting portions of the flock to head towards the light before its too late. He's the beacon on the fork in the road telling people its the final hour :
> Get yourself sorted out and get your ass on the high road before its too late.

> He's trying to draw out some deeper profundity to Christianity rather than crossing into the abyss that lies beyond Nietzsche.
I think he understands that if he does this for the new initiates that he's trying to capture that he will lose them completely. I think he understands that this is likely too much too fast for someone who hasn't even embarked on awareness and has no way of navigating the deeper abyss.

I think this also signals to those far more initiated that : hey... that time's coming where the deeper abyss will be opened and you too will have your crossing albeit deeper.

>>127547123
How about you comb through hours of video, you lazy, dishonest nigger?

>>127547837
lel
Just stop now.
You're superior, we get it.

>>127547736
I am euro. I fuck ladyboys
>>127547837
no...

a normal psych will tell you to be happy with a fat wife and 80 iq kids. a normal psych wil tell you if you get held up with a gun, it's bettert o surrender and maybe get shot, than to kill the attacker

normal psych are absolutely insane. and you're a gay ngiger

>>127546272
Dude, you're overthinking it.

You're falling into a very newby trap. Complexities like this cannot be easily explained or understood. The nature of good and evil are very elusive. I understand the mindset you're coming from; you're following the logic. That said, stop. You're making the classic mistake of looking so hard at the brush strokes that you lose out on the picture.

You know there is goodness and you know there is evil. You know there is suffering, and you know there is happiness. Believe me, one day it will all make sense, but until you figure it out, don't let the nuts and bolts convince you of lies when your intuition knows the Truth.

>>127536548
I'd love to help you but you sound like a cliche and bait for (You)'s. Figuring out your place is your own path. Praise Jesus, I'm out.

>>127536548
High school is shitty for 90% of people, for one reason or another

>>127547799
The thing his, people always told me that I should be more open to relashionship in general. thing is, I don't feel this urge and people bores me. Why shuold I talk to someone more than I have to when I could do things I'm more interested in (which it could be either playing vidyia or reading a book about economics, my interests tend to vary).

>>127547907
SORT YOURSELF OUT!
GO TO CHURCH!
BE SUBMISSIVE TO JESUS AND CHRISTIANITY!

Kill yourself.

>>127547962
How the fuck old are you? If you are older then fucking 18 you are pathetic self pity r9k user. You are a brainlet that can't figure yourself out you have to have some christcuck TELL YOU.

>>127548072
Wrong, they will tell you to be yourself of course but that is just like every fucking normie in existence.

> normal psych wil tell you if you get held up with a gun, it's bettert o surrender and maybe get shot, than to kill the attacker
what the fuck are you talking about? yeah there are leftists psychiatrists so what find a different one.if you actually need someone to tell you your problems.

>normal psych are absolutely insane. and you're a gay ngiger
Okay?

>>127536548
Is future and past authoring any good
I got future authoring and it kinda waste of time to be honest

>>127547907
You're giving him more credit than I would, I honestly get the vibe that Peterson is only a half step ahead of his own lectures, which would explain why he seems to have epiphanies on stage.

But I'm willing to entertain that he has a more complex plan than I anticipated, he's more worthy of the 4D chess meme than someone like Trump.

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>>127546330
If you haven't had a perfect life, you probably have a few lingering or embarrassing memories from when you were a child or a teen. Maybe the first time you asked a girl out she laughed at you, or maybe some kid pulled your pants down in class and it embarrassed you, whatever the fuck it might be, and now you're in your mid 20s, and yet occasionally you'll still think of one of those memories from 15 years ago and cringe. If that never happens to you consider yourself fortunate because that's what happens for many people.

Peterson has talked about it and that kind of thing can be "cured" by analyzing and dissecting those memories -
eg:
>why do I still remember this thing that happened 17 years ago?
because I felt really embarrassed when it happened
>why did I feel embarrassed
because it made me look stupid, my friends witnessed the moment, and I lacked confidence
>why did I lack confidence?
because such-and-such reason
>what should I have done differently in that moment, or what would have been an objectively better reaction?
such-and-such reaction would have been objectively better and made me feel better about what had happened. Etc, etc.

It's about breaking down those barriers so that your brain doesn't "waste" time, energy, or emotion thinking about those past memories that don't actually do you any good 15+ years down the road.

Peterson claims that by breaking things down this way you can essentially reconcile with your past, to the point where you can "solve" a bad memory, and never think about it ever again.

>>127547928
So you make the claim but you want ME to prove it for you you little self entitled effeminate little sissy? Should I also come and dress you for school you fucking twit?

>>127536548
shoulda tried to make mates instead of eating food in the school bogs you cunt

>>127548076

You're making the newby mistake of applying your morality to reality and declaring it an absolute truth.

Might was, is, and always will be Right.

>>127548314
normal psychs exist to kep the problem contained, and keep you from defecting against the order. look how strongly they speak out against people who travel abroad for freedom
"running away" or men to refuse to pay alimony.

they are there to keep the slaves in line.

peterson is different.

stop being an idiot

>>127548740
>peterson is different.
yeah totally thanks reddit kys

Hey guys I blew $4000 on heroin in the past 2 months, I am currently in withdrawals and I have exams in 2.5 weeks.

I'm suicidally depressed, but I am too ashamed to tell even my closest friend - I burst out crying when I even think about doing it.

Please help

>>127548076
I think you haven't seen the level I speak of, are downplaying it, or don't feel it can be discussed which is fine. I'm not overthinking it. Some people just operate and are aware at the level that I speak about.

> You know there is goodness and you know there is evil. You know there is suffering, and you know there is happiness. Believe me, one day it will all make sense, but until you figure it out, don't let the nuts and bolts convince you of lies when your intuition knows the Truth.

This is essentially an intro level mindset that resolves on :
> one day it will all make sense
Further:
> but until you figure it out,
> don't let the nuts and bolts convince you of lies when your intuition knows the Truth.
Is contradictory.

If you want to chime in about the level I highlighted, I'm all ears. Otherwise, stick to the first level like I said and don't read any further.

>>127548716
Spoken like a true fool.

>>127548314
You clearly have no clue what i'm talking about which is self-evident and fine.

>>127548648
ahhahaha, did you already forget? You started this dialogue with your quote pictures, go fetch proof that Peterson actually said those things.

Burden of proof is on the accuser, you stupid nigger.
>>127540360
>>127540740

>>127548311
Why do you care what they think?
If you're content with your current way of life, nothing needs to change. Other people have other mindsets, and what they think someone should want is not the same as what you want. Stop being so insecure if you truly are happy with your current state of life.

>>127549000
Yeah you sure got that red pill lebbit! You sure are much wiser then I am!

>>127548314
The fact you are calling him a christcuck shows how you don't understand him at all so you should really stop talking and walk away, come back when you understand him at least a little.

He isn't religious but recognises the merit in the religious stories that we have and how they have shaped the west.

>>127548945
Spoken like someone without an argument.

>>127548824
be strong, bro
this could help, it isn't nothing:
http://adf.org.au/help-support/

>>127549069
I understand him lebbit. I don't care about your little christcuck and I am pretty fucking sure a lot of these newborns don't give a shit.

>>127548403
He's said himself that most of his lectures aren't merely him reciting old content, he's both explaining and exploring what he knows about the world, he's thinking aloud to understand what he's thinking. There's definitely shit that he doesn't talk about, in the ryerson lecture he almost approached the jewish question when he was asked about solzhenitsyns untranslated book.

>>127548403
You may be right. He even admits to this in some of his more complex lectures that talking about it helps him figure it out and that he many times gets an understanding on stage.

I watched one of his videos (my first actually):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdrLQ7DpiWs

And arrived at that by the end of the video in how he put off the more complex aspects as (evil.. wew, I dont want to go there). It was also interesting how the person in the audience presented the SJW framing at the end (the Q&A) and it hit Peterson hard.

> But I'm willing to entertain that he has a more complex plan than I anticipated, he's more worthy of the 4D chess meme than someone like Trump.
Indeed. He is definitely a beacon in a time of lost souls. I've shared that particular video in hopes that those who aren't even awakened may gain something from it. However, I'll probably part ways from his material if it doesn't dive into deeper expositions.

>>127548876
Anon, I can play at your level, trust me.

But you're flirting with nihilism if you keep that up. Slow down and just relax.

Life is meant to be lived. As you experience more of life, seemingly unsolvable problems will become crystal clear out of nowhere. Getting bogged down on how you can't figure out "how good or evil can exist when..." doesn't help you. It ignores the aspects of life we know to be True.

I'm not saying you're wrong; you're completely right. But you're going about this the wrong way and are only going to hurt yourself if you aren't careful.

>>127549082
Back at you.

>>127549034
because if someone says something, maybe there is some value in it even if I don't see it at all.

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>>127548716
God ... please tell me new initiates are not going to go around throwing Peterson's talking points out like they're the new (((that's a logical fallacy desu))).

> You're making the newby mistake of applying your morality to reality and declaring it an absolute truth.
^this shit is going to get cringe worthy quick

life isnt all sunshine and rainbows

if you accept that, you can take on the world rather than get fucked by it. dont be naive, be a realist. and never let other people exploit you.

>>127536548
I bought one and one for my younger brother but still havent got the time to finish it, past test is powerful stuff you will find answers in there

>>127549434
Morality is a malleable, culturally unique, ever-changing conception of good and evil. Beneath the veneer of morality is the eternal struggle, the human instinct to assert willpower as both individuals and tribes. This is the immutable truth of human nature. This does not reduce the importance of morality, for morality is the chessboard of amoral desire.

Prove me wrong.

>>127548314
Assmad fedoralord, into the trash where you belong

>>127547002
Anon that's psychological projection. You took empty swings at me, which now makes me think that it is you with a drug problem. If you were a well adjusted individual, you would clearly see that everyone has inner conflict. Everyone has insecurities. It's just that Peterson's program wants you to codify yours in a format that is easily exploitable, and therefore is potentially very damaging to you. You should really take your own advice. But you shouldn't give Peterson your shekels.

>>127549330
I started watching his shit about a year before he took off

tryin to key into group dynamics is difficult.

he had a lecture about the australian corobori, and tied it to modern rave culture.

he's 100% spot on, but it's a process ofthinking because it's neurological, not logical.

to feel comfortable, humans like walking around in circles in groups and finding each other.

this isthe most basic neurological programming.

if we aren't doing that, and mixing, we slowly become pathological.

you can't explain thes things linearly, and so few people are on his level. it's no surprise he has epiphanies

he explains how to seduce a woman neurologically and I guarantee he's spot on.

>>127537289
I completely relate to it. What, you think there aren't lonely autists with poor social skills on 4chan?

>>127549873
considering i haven't taken the program and have just been shitposting, it's probably you that's projecting

>>127549831
Prove yourself right first.

I see a whole lot of conjecture.

>>127549566
I was mocking the tone of the post I was responding to, for you autistic readers out there.

>>127543838
How the fuck would you know what a bathroom stall looks like?

>>127541326

One of Dutruoux's slaves? Or clients?

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>>127549397
>Anon, I can play at your level, trust me.
Lets have a go at it.

First off :
>ni·hil·ism :the rejection of all religious and moral principles, often in the belief that life is meaningless.
I don't reject religious or moral principles at all. I am well versed and well founded on them and their utility. Life isn't meaningless. It is quite profound.

>
Life is meant to be lived. As you experience more of life, seemingly unsolvable problems will become crystal clear out of nowhere. Getting bogged down on how you can't figure out "how good or evil can exist when..." doesn't help you. It ignores the aspects of life we know to be True.

I'm living. I'm learning. I'm seeing with every step. I have a healthy and moderate mix of a lot of degrees. Suffice to say, I know what I've seen and I know it to be true. Thus, with a solid and established foundation, the journey only progresses further such as humanity's over time. Less you feel there has been no rhyme reason or progression over mankind's history.. such is the case for an individuals life.

>
I'm not saying you're wrong; you're completely right. But you're going about this the wrong way and are only going to hurt yourself if you aren't careful.
This is exactly the full stop that Jordan Peterson highlights as evil and says leads to nihilism. Where this contradicts is with the whole story and evolution of human history and consciousness whereby we've taken deeper steps and asked more ultimate questions with every generation and second of our existence. This is where I draw straw to this and highlight it as caution tape.

Were at a particular point in time in history where more ultimate questions will be set upon and answered. It's in our nature and history and is the unraveling aspect of time.

So, were here. You acknowledge the level I speak of and have an awareness of it which is why you caution against it... Shall we get into it?

>>127550057
>I see a whole lot of conjecture.

Articulate, nigger.

>>127550017
Shitposting is a psychological phenomenon, too. It's astonishing how much of yourself you put into your shitposts.

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Well it sounds like you're very bitter about your high school experience, you fuckin retard

>>127550721
>all of your assumptions are based on me taking jordan peterson's autobiography course
>i haven't taken the course
i have to admit, you've got me figured out
are you going to say anything of substance or are you just going to continue to act like the joker

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>>127550133

>>127550824
That is one unhappy cat. I wonder why it's letting itself be put through that.

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>>127536548
What is the point to write all this stuff if you don't remember it?

>>127549974

The thing is you think all of life is like highschool where hormonal teenagers with nothing in common are forced to be together.

Which is understandable since you're projecting your shitty parents treatment of you onto the entire world to excuse it but that's another redpill.

If nobody liked you then maybe it's just you. Maybe it's the way you smell or how you carry yourself. Maybe youre a huge asshole and you never realized how much of any asshole you are.

>>127551608
OP's choice of picture confirms this

>>127549964
>he explains how to seduce a woman neurologically and I guarantee he's spot on.
... okay which vid man? I need this for reasons.

>>127545237
>He has NEVER mentioned Jewish complicity in Bolshevism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USg3NR76XpQ&index=23&list=WL&t=3180s

He also stated in one video (the Harvard conference if I remember correctly) that making unecessary enemy is stupid. Making an enemy of the Jes, when you have to wake people up is completely and utterly moronic

>>127548824
clean your room

>>127537289
>Your life is beyond fucked

how fucking cozy are you?
that story is absolutely nothing

>>127551272
>you think

why do you pretend to know what people think based on a single post on 4chan

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>>127536548
My solution is to get big and beat the shit out of degenerates/ get a working class job that demands some local respect.

Take the /fit/ pill brahs. Train for rahowa and prepare yourselves.

>>127541298
nah dude, he's very clear about his anti-nazi stance

>>127547666
>go to a normal psych. they will tell you to "Be yourself, be confident! getting punched in the face? it's all in your head, you can be happy!"

you've been visiting some very shitty psychs

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>>127549834

>>127537289
>one in a million case
O I'm laffin

>>127545366
>>127546272
What you're missing is that he's trying to go through the stories of the Bible in order. The Tower and everything else will come later.

He also acknowledged that he doesn't yet know where he will go during this series. He's unraveling it as he does these lectures.

Don't write him off just yet

>>127548403
>I honestly get the vibe that Peterson is only a half step ahead of his own lectures

that's because he is

he's exploring these subjects as he gives lectures on them

>>127554092
except at that point there would be no unmixed white people

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>>127536548
>still hurt by being a sad betacuck in fucking highschool
It's fucking HIGHSCHOOL you nigger. You don't need to sort shit out. You just need to know the definition of the past.

Peterson is a fucking hack. He articulately words the most obvious shit everyone already knows. You knew before listening to his shit that you're a lazy cuck running away from your life and you had to "sort yourself" out. You just chose to shy away from it because you are a lazy cuck.

I won't even begin to start about his retarded right wing extremist views he repeats every god damn time he gets a microphone.

Thanks, OP, your post made me slightly salty.

>>127536548

Jesus christ, so this is the type of retard who falls for the peterson meme. Fucking outcast losers, retards who no one wants to talk too.

No wonder you all fall for bad memes like Peterson and devote your life to stupid red pills. Fucking retards and losers, all of you.

>For people like us, the red pill is the only thing that makes sense.

Yeah exactly, you have nothing going for you in life since you are a fucking loser. So you latch on to retarded conspiracy crap like a total faggot and them become a cringey online larper. Kill yourself.

A conspiracy isn't legitimate and a speaker isn't worth listening too until alpha white men who did well in their lives, have a relationship with a woman and are happy and had a good upbringing look into it and conclude it makes sense. All other followers are just losers who'd fall for anything because it makes their dull life seem interesting and makes them feel important for once to know some secret info.

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>>127536548
No room for weak men are we to survive and prosper

>>127536548
Good luck anon.

>>127536548

at 32 I dont even remember high school, I know I played a shitload of everquest.

then again I had friends and did get laid, must suck for you. either way you will forget all that shit the older you get. Whether you want to or not.

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>>127555034

come home

>>127548380
can you explain how it was a waste of time?
I missed out on his free giveaway back in november and would like to know if I'm missing out or not

>>127540100
sauce please

>>127536548
>>>/r9k/

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We are blood cells in some huge organism. Roads look just like veins, cars like little cells floating through a vessel, rivers too. Think about technology on a mother board: the straight lines. Totally different from the real world. The real world has curves. Is the creation of man also the creation of God by proxy? Why do we make computing hard ware with lines that do not exist in the real world? Is the internet a manifestation of the imagination of mankind? God made curves, man made straight lines. But God also made man, so, did He also make straight lines? How could a wrong answer exist if God makes all the answers by making the possibility for all answers?

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Good luck.

>>127540100
Why does the sun come up? Are stars just pinholes in the curtain of night? Who knows, Highlander?

>>127536548
High school was exactly like this for me OP. Literally a living hell. I'm just lucky I actually found a chill group of people in college or I'd probably be insane by now.

>>127557913

Hillary's soul is twisted from having to force herself to smile, when she is unhappy and angry inside.

>>127536548
>I bought Jordan Peterson "Sort Yourself Out" Suite...
What's this? I searched it and only results from youtube, plebbit, twatter, faceberg come out.

>>127536548
I got the basic idea after watching his Maps of Meaning videos and decided to give it a try. I had a breakthrough today regarding something that's been fucking with me since I was a kid that I didn't even know was affecting me. I sobbed a lot, and now I think I'm on the way to resolving it.

>>127555298
pretty fucking edgy, bro
it's good to see you trying so hard to fit in

and Peterson isn't a meme, dumbshit. you're the one falling for the "le contrarian xD" meme. there are elements of his metaphysical theories you can argue against, but his practical psychology makes perfect sense. you wouldn't know because you haven't actually seen any of his stuff, you're just a fucking contrarian faggot.

when did this board become subleddit for depression

>>127547029

Is there a book-form? I don't want to do all this online. I've been looking inside myself for a long time, but this lack of motivation bothers me the most despite having a lot to live for.

>>127558201
I don't know you might use it better, it felt to me that I was not gaining anything by doing it and stopped.

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I like to think that I am depressed because our society is rotten to the core
because all our values are lost, and are degenerating into nothingness
sometimes I am scared to think that maybe it's just me...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdJwpisCE5A&t=127s

>>127568305

They are not lost as long as you hold them. Stop fearing social decline and do something about it. I've been struggling with motivation myself, to fight against this hopelessness. But I've had tremendous success in speaking out in public against these bad memes.

It's not even hard to do as most of these leftie ideas simply exist because nobody has challenged them. My main motivation issue for earning money is not that I don't want to make money and have a family, it's that the state takes most of my earnings to fund their retarded ideology and then also steals any savings I try to build up. This and it all seems so irrelevant with the ongoing genocide of my people.

>>127537289
fuck off

what are the odds, this is fake. very clever

>>127540740

He keeps skipping around it. He claims to have never read Two Hundred Years Together in it's full form, which is strange given his promotion of the other book.

>>127536548
>See this OP
>think he's going to get ripped up for being cringe as fuck
>everyone patting him on the back for being a little bitch

I think I should leave /pol/ now

Peterson said in a lecture that an I.Q. below 115 basically makes you unfit for anything but basic manual labor and unable to live any sort of intellectual or self reflective life.

I'm pretty sure my I.Q. would be in the high 90's, low 100's at best.

Is there any point to me trying out this program or even Cleaning My Room?

>>127540740
>>127571067

Same thing with Molyneux. They don't name the Jew openly for good reason. Have you ever tried talking about the Jews directly? People look at you as if you're insane and covered in Ebola. Anything you say will be rejected out of hand. It shuts down the logic of these people altogether, because they are programmed like that without realizing it. What do these people have to gain from defending the Jew and Israel? They don't even know it themselves.

But think of this:
What's the effective difference between redpilling someone and having them behave as if they're redpilled?

Correcting someone's moral framework also results in them destroy the power base of the Jew. I didn't start off as someone aware of the Jew and neither did you. It's more likely that you were raised in the same types of indoctrination camps I was, and that you later discovered the truth AFTER or during your moral framework correcting itself based on discovering truths.

>>127537289
>one in a million

lel

4chan is going to have much higher rates of stories like that than anywhere else but here its closer to 1 in 20 on the average board.

>>127571417
Irrelevant.

Trying the program, up to you.
Cleaning your room, yes.

>>127571417

Your IQ might not be the highest - I'm not sure - but you have to ask yourself one question: would a true idiot ever be self-reflexive enough to be making a post like yours in the first place?

And IQ is a useful indicator to gauge intellect but it's mainly centered around an aptitude for parsing spatial abstractions; hardly the sole indicator of intellect. It gets meme'd far too hard around here and by the public in general.

Pursue this if you're interested. Don't let people talk you out of shit.

>>127571619

I understand what you mean. I don't expect him in his position to come out and deal with the JQ. But it's strange he strenuously avoids it. I suppose he can't bear to lie about it if questioned.

>It's more likely that you were raised in the same types of indoctrination camps

Unfortunately no. A different kind of indoctrination camp. My father was a literal on-the-watchlists-commie.

My moral frame-work is hideously damaged, especially given my background whereby I was surrounded by criminals growing up and still to do this day have skewed moralistic leanings.

>>127571417

The fact that you're even thinking about or considering these things have value beyond "intelligent guy says x, therefore it must be valuable" means your IQ must be well north of 110 at least.

Around 120, people barely bother with introspection. Lower IQ introspection isn't really introspection at all. It usually devolves into mysticism, which is ascribing meaning to garbage thoughts to absolve yourself from actually having to do anything.

That's the beauty of these concepts, to even be able to appreciate them and their value you must already have a higher IQ.

If you want to test yourself and your ability to grasp these concepts, this is a good place to start because it doesn't cost you anything except some of your free time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_04Povks18&list=PLC1647D7F937DDE7A
https://freedom-school.com/money/how-an-economy-grows.pdf

Also interesting as it relates to IQ:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8N3FF_3KvU&list=PLMNj_r5bccUw40CpD-JYXJyVsDYsj7ITD

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>>127545978
>Chrome

>>127571619
This makes sense. Hitler spoke about this in Mein Kampf. He used the metaphor of someone so busy looking at the mountain of their ideal that they forget to mind the path they are using to climb the mountain. Practical political matters shouldn't be ignored.

>>127536548
Wow lift and learn to throw a punch in your next life, fucking faggot.

>>127542173
100% This.

>>127537289
The fuck? That's not that much of a rare experience.

I use to pee my bed till I was 21, then I listened to Jordan Peterson and I still pee my bed but also sub to him and donate via Patreon. He's my dad

>>127548511
So it's literally just
>oh I remember that thing that happened that made me embarrassed
>why did it make me embarrassed?
>what consequences did it have?
>how can I avoid it happening again (or does it even matter)?

Is it just self reflection like that?

Why do you need to buy some $15 course to figure that out for yourself?

How is it designed? Is it like a pdf that you download or an online program?

>>127536548
You're doing it wrong. Peterson wants to see you sort yourself out and stop feeling sorry for yourself.

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>>127555298
>trying to become less of a loser makes you a loser

>>127572151

To further clarify my point, this is the key question you must ask yourself at all times:

>WHAT IS THE END GOAL OF MY ACTIONS

Is it to take revenge on the jews or to save western civilization? Now I understand to that in order to have a great, western civilization, we must deal with the Jews. Permanently. They are a rot to society and morals and it goes beyond just their religion. Cowardice and backstabbing Europeans is in their very genetic code. It's who they are, it's what they do. I have seen free will as far as genetics allow it to be there. In the same way you cannot uplift someone with low IQ genetics to high IQ ideals, you cannot expect a Jew NOT to stab you in the back and exploit you. It's how they live, it's how they survive.

HOWEVER, getting rid of the jews is not the end goal. It's to have a great, western civilization. And for that, we need western civilization to exist first and foremost. Therefore, it's more productive right now to correct the moral framework of the people we can reach. The axiom of personal property and the part of Jewishness that is a threat to our very existence are in direct conflict. There is effectively no difference in between getting rid of the Jew's power base and teaching about the axiom of Personal Property. But, people will think you are smart for explaining to them Personal Property while thinking you insane if you talk about the Jew.

Focus on outcomes through decision-making, rather than just outcomes or just decision-making, but don't tell the people we're helping that.

>tfw I just finished one of the maps of meaning lectures about the Jews, Nazis, and disgust psychology

>>127573408

It's effectively therapy, but cheaper and more personal as there's 0 outside judgement involved. If you think you can reach these conclusions yourself, that's fine too. It's hard to see things you've been living with all your life, outside perspectives can point things out you aren't seeing.

Think of it as a dermatologist looking at a suspicious mole at the underside of your butt.

>>127536548
Kind of unrelated, but this reminds of a time when I was 16. Literally hugless virgin, hardly any friends, disrespected by everyone. But then one day, essentially out of the blue, I kissed this one girl. She was a really attractive girl, and fairly popular too.

It's hard to put in to words exactly what that meant to me, but it felt like she literally saved my life. Up until that point my life was completely misery - lonely and sad all the time, except that was the norm for me so I didn't realise how bad it was. That one kiss was maybe the first time in living memory that there was actually some light in my life. That I could actually see a way out of this maze. That I shouldn't settle for my regular shitty existence, but that I should fight with everything I've got to regain that experience.

That was around 6 years ago, but needless to say it basically shaped who I am today, and all the good decisions I've made along the way. I keep trying to find a way of communicating to her how grateful I was of that experience, but maybe i should just spare her. I doubt she even remembers it.

>>127536548
Give me a quick rundown on how his program works:
1. What does he want you to do?
2. Is there any assessment?

>>127536548
You need to figure out what it is about you that made people not want to be friends with you. Did you every talk to people? Did you shower regularly (some people at my highschool smelled so bad even the no-friend losers wouldn't talk to them). Did you act like an asshole to people who did try to talk to you?

No one ends up like that without a reason. Find out what you do the keeps people away and change it. You don't need a book for that

>>127575091
>No one ends up like that without a reason.
Stop blaming him. Most of the time it is because people can't cope with other people being different to them.

When bullied people behave like dicks it is most of the time because they can't cope with their insecurity.

How would he advise getting over crippling general anxiety?

>>127537289
I always had lots of friends but I have had moments like this all the time going to a new school. I'm horrible at meeting new people and I often scare them since I come off as intimidating. Sure I don't have the best social skills and I'm sure neither does anon. But many of us just see group social interactions as just a primitive game. So I can relate to feeling alone, and I am no doubt blessed that in every new school I had been in there was always a welcoming student body to take me in as their own. Without such nice people, I would be beyond bitter.
What >>127536548
is doing is something that takes a lot of strength. The hardest thing to do is to forgive others and yourself when you feel as though you have been wronged. Op is in a situation where he can blame the student body for being so cold despite them knowing its just a game, But ultimately op has to blame himself because he would just refuse to play the game after getting wronged. There is no doubt what led me to be socially retarded as I am now is due to being fucked with in middle school for only a year. But that year left a permanent mark. I can only imagine how fucked up Op's subconscious is

>>127575946
Force yourself into social situations. Try to figure out when you feel uncomfortable and why. Ask yourself if you are being reasonable.

>>127575946
no fap, workout, meditation.

in other words the iron pill

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>>127548648

There is a certain art to fully and totally leafposting an entire thread.

Today, niqlPBYZ proved this.

>>127576121
It's not social anxiety, I'm pretty good in social situations. I just panic over the smallest things and can never really relax so I'm in a constant state of tension. Only alcohol has seemed to kill it so far but I can't go through life as an alcoholic.

>>127576564
Make plans. Write them down. Always have a plan B. Be prepared. Stick to a schedule. Try not to get into situations where you can't/haven't calculated the risks and don't know how to proceed.

>>127564310
He means the "self authoring suite".

>>127568144
Nee, is alleen online beschikbaar.

>>127573632
Online program.

>>127574922
Self reflected writing, based on specific questions and guidance. Basically you just write whatever comes to mind about the subject and afterwards you analyze the situation.

R9K

>>127536548

The funny thing is, we have all been rejected.

By not allowing us to "fight" in schools, we men have lost ability to put argue any case for where we fit into a social group. This means a lot of agreeable group thinkers, and even more men labeled as rejects.

Fear not, anon; your life will be stronger when you accept the past, learn from it, and then leave it behind you.

>>127577493
You can fight after school.

>>127577276
Thx. What are cool traditional names in Netherlands? Most of what I looked up was Christian or Swedish.

>>127537289

Lol fucking kill yourself you fucking normie.

>>127542864
The fact that you're nihilistic, means that they have won.
You're better than that.
And you know you're better than that.

>>127578235
>Trying to get him to submit.
Not this time chad...

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>>127536548
>this crazy canuck
stop right there shill. you 4chinner would use that turn of phrase. you schismogenesis won't work here.

>>127544206
this
fucking losers

>>127544428
you too english teacher, get out and stop raising the beta average in my country

>>127546903
RccONdvc You've got some dragons to slay in your underworld, bucko. Look, if you want challenging metaphysical discussion, wind it back to Jung, or maybe actually read Maps of Meaning. The YT lectures are digestible and within the overton window of the audience, which includes dropping the name 'Solzhenitsyn' --- You've got to understand the power of that, the sorted will sort it out, the idiot reactionaries and shallow scholars won't. It's an old vedic guru / austrian intellectual ploy for disseminating 'forbidden' knowledge.

>>127578960
And so you might say that. But then it's like, well who is this Jung anyway? And why is psychoanalysis of literature valuable? But then the next question is what do you do with Pinocchio? Because Pinocchio is essentially the same thing as the Bible from this analytical perspective. And this perspective is not a relativist one, but it is a relativist one. Which is an ancient trick of fortune tellers, and that's the archetype that psychologists fit today. And that's not at all obvious, but it is very clear. But realistically we should all buy Peterson's book just to support him because after all he opposes the trannies, even though he has testified in public that he actually supports the trainnies. Okay, so it's actually that the trannies are oppressors and he is the victim, but that is the Foucault and Derrida inspired interpretation of the relativist but not relativist position of the intrinsic archetype but actually extrinsic critical theory analytical approach of Kermit the frog.

But really, it's like we should just use memes instead because memetics is superior to Jungian analysis, right?

>>127571067
No English speaking reader has read 200 Years Together because it's never been translated into English. The Jewish publishing monopoly is suppressing it