Film General Thread - Be Positive Edition
Post your beautiful grainy snapshits here, or discuss why Fujifags and Kodakucks can't be friends.
>just posting in the /fgt/ doesn't make you gay, unless you use point-and-shoots with Tri-X
Post film photography youtubers
Just scanned in my first roll of Velvia, will post a few. Feedback appreciated.
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>>3135558
Never shot positives before and damn they’re satisfying to look at.
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>>3135559
Really enjoying the look of Velvia, though due to the low DR I had a few overexposed skies. Any tips on how to reduce this? UV filter?
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>>3135557
>Ben Horne (mostly 8x10 Velvia 50)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHIBbaSZcGg&t=911s
>>3135558
Love that.
I'm currently scanning my family's old negatives. How do you guys store your files? I'm currently scanning at 4800 dpi and storing them as TIFFs (about 80 Mb a pop) and then I use LR to compress them down to 40 Mb losslessly (since the Epson scanning software doesn't do ZIP compression). Probably a bit overkill given the quality of most of the shots, but my NAS have enough storage... Renting off site storage for all of it looks expensive though...
Hav I got the fungen?
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>>3135566
I think that's "schneideritis"
>>3135560
>UV filter?
Really? Are you trolling me or do you not see where the over/exposed/ skies are coming from?
Think about it for a second.
>>3135560
>Any tips on how to reduce this?
Graduated ND filters.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xkood+graduated+filter.TRS0&_nkw=kood+graduated+filter&_sacat=0
KOOD makes filters for both Lee and Cokin holders. Decent quality for the price.
This happened.
>mfw almost had to use a ND filter to shoot 320 tri-x out there at f/45
I did 5 frames out there and there were two other guys shooting LF, saw some dude with a 500C/M and some 135 too.
>inb4 you'll never post them
September ill be in town and should be able to get them done, if not I can mail them into Flair and pick them up when I take hometime again
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>>3135570
Cheers, I have used graduated NDs in the past but none were very good - I think I need a Cokin one but that'll add bulk. Would a UV filter do anything if it's just the kind of thing I keep on the front of my lens?
Seems to be fine on a clear day like pic related, but any light reflected through clouds looks like ass.
>>3135576
Last for now.
>>3135567
Can we get a second opinion from the counsel?
Quick google says schneideritis is purely cosmetic as long as it isn't extreme. With extreme cases simply reducing the overall contrast.
The thing is I purchased the exact same lens in great condition, then i found pic related a few months later in an old camera bag. So if I can, I'd like to sell one of the two if ugly one works fine and turn some of that money around
>>3135558
Mein neger. I just got my first roll of slides, Provia, back from the lab. It's absolutely novel just looking at the pictures on the slide. I might just shoot slides from now on. Fuck dynamic range, I'm not shooting landscapes at high noon.
The only thing I don't like is having to spend more time in color correction, since with negatives, I can just throw them through colorperfect.
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>>3135583
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>>3135584
Forgive my scanning setup. It's pretty potato without a macro lens. I can't find a 60/2.8D for a good price... they all go for about the same price as a 105/2.8D.
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>>3135586
The colors are amazing to behold on the slide. Scanned, not so much. I need more practice.
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>>3135588
""""""""Art""""""""". Shall I stop now?
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>>3135589
I wonder if getting the 105/2.8D or 60/2.8D is worth it over an older design like the 105/2.8 AIS or 55 AIS. I mean, at least with AF, I can use it as a portrait prime as well.
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>>3135583
>Fuck dynamic range, I'm not shooting landscapes at high noon.
See I shoot almost entirely while hiking, so if I wanna get good light I need to camp on the trail. I suppose having Ektar for harsh lighting and Velvia for soft is a pretty good rule.
>>3135588
>The colors are amazing to behold on the slide. Scanned, not so much.
I found this too, very satisfying to look at in strips but getting that across in scans is very difficult. Most of the work for me goes into Lightroom with only a very simple white point and USM adjustment while scanning.
>>3135590
I'll stop spamming the thread now.
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>>3135590
what the fuck. where is this?
>>3135580
so just clean the outside, take some test shots, sell it as-is? shine a flashlight through it to see how much crap is inside.
>>3135576
A UV filter would only reduce haze a little bit. Nothing else.
Not very recent but applicable
>>3135575
> No replies
Were we meant to be impressed? Maybe if you showed us the actual final image, not the 'herr derr look at me i'm using an antiquated medium!!! honestly you wouldn't understand' photo for instagram, you may get a few (You)s
posting recent snapshits from Paris, constructive criticism would be appreciated xx
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>>3135676
>pickler elated
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>>3135676
>How much is a typical lens cleaning?
A hundred or two from what I hear.
Depends on how bad the fungus is really. A small spot or two? Probably pretty cheap. Fungus so bad you can't look through it? Not worth it unless the lens is a couple grand.
>>3135676
try opening it yourself, cleaning anything you can
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AWRGJx-sus
they aren't going for that much on ebay, not worth paying someone
Ya'll planning to shoot the eclipse?
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>>3135583
Did you pay for ColorPerfect? I can't bring myself to do it
>>3135617
>You replied
>>3135557
>>3135558
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>>3135560
These scans are proper fucked.
>>3135576
In terms of overexposed skies, graduated ND filters are a must for E6 landscapes. Formatt-Hitech resin filters are dope for the money. Properly neutral. Ill never buy another brand of grad NDs again.
>>3135588
DSLR scanning is much easier to get good slides from compared to shatbeds. That scan looks pretty good, what don't you like about it?
>>3135593
Ayyy Wreck Beach? Best place for sunsets.
TFW load up your first roll of C41 in months and the /fgt/ theme becomes E6.
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>>3135583
>Mein neger. I just got my first roll of slides, Provia, back from the lab. It's absolutely novel just looking at the pictures on the slide. I might just shoot slides from now on. Fuck dynamic range, I'm not shooting landscapes at high noon.
>The only thing I don't like is having to spend more time in color correction
That's exactly what I did anon.
Color correction should take no time with slides. In PS bring in one of your Provia frames thst was taken in typical daylight (not golden hour) that has things in the frame that are easy to color correct for. I find clouds and concrete easiest. Record an action of you color correcting. Take your time and get it perfected (to your eyes). Now you have an action you can use to batch edit any roll of Provia you shoot in the future.
>>3135557
Eduardopavezgoye
>>3135764
>get 6x7 camera with 220 back
>literally no 220 film on the market
maybe one of the hipster film projects will bring some back... where's ferraniaposter?
>>3135772
Search and you will find, at least if you're in N. America or Japan.
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>>3135557
Art of Photography, Matt Day, and Ed Pavez if you're feeling hip
>>3135593
>September ill be in town and should be able to get them done, if not I can mail them into Flair and pick them up when I take hometime again
Is this Iona Beach in Vancouver?
>>3135593
Ayy which beach is that?
>>3135764
>Ayyy Wreck Beach? Best place for sunsets.
Iona, actually. Ever watch a sunset from the end of the jetty? It's great.
>DSLR scanning is much easier to get good slides from compared to shatbeds. That scan looks pretty good, what don't you like about it?
It is. My setup uses a reversed 50mm, so sharpness is definitely not there, nor is corner performance. Those limitations aside, I've not yet found some magic combination of settings that can match the colour balance of the film properly. I mean, that's a limitation inherent of DSLR scanning of course. At least with slides, there's something to reference your colours to. Negatives would be, at best, at the mercy of colorperfect. I suppose you could get a whole pile of 6x4s printed off too and use those like you'd use slides for reference when editing.
>>3135766
>. I find clouds and concrete easiest. Record an action of you color correcting.
Theoretically, that should work. But that'd only work for other scenes in the same lighting. As soon as you see any other color temperature, you'll be messing around with curves and sliders until it looks right. Difference with negatives is that you know exactly what it has to look like... so you spend more time trying to get it right. It just comes with the medium I suppose.
The woodchips on that barge looked wacky until I figured out I had to boost orange saturation, and dump yellow saturation. The blues were easy to figure out, but the water should be more of a teal colour that I can't quite get back in post.
>>3135774
I want it, but the only option is ebay fuji 160ns, and 120 is cheaper per frame, so whatever. I've mostly given up on color anyway, paying for dev sucks.
>>3135791
Ahhh Iona, yeah that place is great for sunsets!
>I suppose you could get a whole pile of 6x4s printed off too and use those like you'd use slides for reference when editing.
But then you're at the mercy of the lab and what are probably automatic scan settings...which are no more reliable than just doing it yourself.
>Theoretically, that should work. But that'd only work for other scenes in the same lighting.
Actually, it works for any other scene. Film is balanced for daylight. If you make your action using a frame taken in typical daylight and it looks identical to the slide, you've nailed the inherent qualities of the slide. Take another slide shot at sunset, run your action, and the scan SHOULD look identical to the sunset slide. The scan has been color corrected for daylight (since the film itself is) and any casts should be true of the light present during the sunset.
That's at least been my experience DSLR scanning upwards of 100 rolls of E6 using this method.
Here's my Velvia 50 action on a daylight shot. Looks identical to the slide.
>>3135791
>>3135796
Here's the same action on a sunset shot. Again, looks identical to the slide. No color correcting after the action was done to either.
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Last thread alot of people were shitting all over portra, I just got my first box of 160, did I fuck up?
>>3135800
People shit over portra because it's widely used, but that's because it's good.
Enjoy your box and take some cool pics.
>>3135796
I find a simple white balance makes my slides look fine.
>>3135796
>But then you're at the mercy of the lab and what are probably automatic scan settings
Ah, the lab (The Lab, since you're familiar with vancouver) can do real prints. I don't know if they'll do it for 6x4s or if it's all done in a minilab though.
>Film is balanced for daylight
That's what I thought, but not what I found to be completely true when editing in lightroom. Most needed a touch more magenta and yellow, but others needed blue added back in. Maybe I need to mess around with it more.
>>3135804
>People shit over portra because it's
fucking trash.
There's no difference in the grain between 160 and 400, and not in a good way. And its colour balance is way more exposure sensitive than other films.
Not much green sensitivity, and only a tiny bit of red sensitivity.
I'd rather shoot Ultramax or Gold than either Portra.
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>>3135791
I went to Iona a couple weeks ago for sundown but the smoke made the sky a grey brown color. Maybe i'll head out there next weekend and try again.
Haven't shot film in a couple years, here's an old one.
Hey /fgt/
Just found this old Lubitel in my parents garage, I've already cleaned it as much as I can, but the lens are still dusty. Is it worth taking to a professional?
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>>3135916
Unless it has any sentimental value I probably wouldn't bother. For the price you'd pay for a CLA (clean lubricate adjust) you could just pick up a Yashica-Mat which has a much better lens and is generally a much better camera in pretty much every way
>>3135862
you took a shitty ass closeup of a tree, what did you expect? And the difference in grain is pretty noticeable, especially on small format
>>3135564
It blows my mind that he uses 8x10 film to take front on photos of rock walls
>>3135921
>>3135920
the amount of detail in 8x10 makes my penis the big penis
Anyone have any idea where you would get proper c41 and e6 chemicals? Rather than the rapid kits, not that there is anything wrong with them
Developed 4 rolls of film at home (3 portra 400 and a fuji superia 400). The 3 portra rolls have a yellow tint to them, did I ruin the developing or just scanned them incorrectly. The fuji superia looked alright (that was with another camera too though). Pic related from one of the portra rolls.
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>>3135929
>post a negative scan (as in an uncorrected scan of the negative)
here is a 48bit colour, 2400dpi, just auto-exposure setting scan, didn't adjust anything else.
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>>3135930
then when i try to adjust it so i get all shadow/highlight detail like in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5EymnBexVQ I get a yellow tint
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>>3135930
nah I mean post like just a straight scan of the negative, so it'll still be inverted and have the orange mask etc
>>3135932
can I do that straight from the flatbed scanner or do i need to take a photo of it?
>>3135933
there will be an option to scan to raw or scan to dng depending on what software you're using
my thought process is that the automatic colour correct is fucking up. but portra does tend to go like that under bad lighting
agfa precisa 200 & minolta hi matic 7s ii
>>3135934
well, I didn't find that option but here is a scan as a colour positive rather than negative.
>>3135937
alright gimme a couple minutes
>>3135918
Thanks, asked my parents about it and turns out they didn't even know they had one it so it's probably belonged to the last renter.
>>3135937
>>3135939
yeah your colour correction software sucks ass
this was literally 30 seconds in photoshop. could have done more but I'm procrastinating uni work
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>>3135942
Yeah that looks much more like how it did when I took the photo. Thanks
>>3135942
>>3135944
Here is another attempt, using the auto exposure setting and then adjusting made it far too yellow. Might have to rescan the last 100 pictures now.
>>3135921
>that feel when you open the envelope labeled "Fuji Professional" to see your positives in transparent sleeves.
Pretty much nutted myself first time I saw.
It worth getting them mounted on slides?
>>3135954
if you're gonna project them, sure. if you're not, there's no point
>>3135956
Projecting woulf be nice, but I dpn't have a projector nor have any interest in purchasing one.
So having slide mounted vs. strips doesnt matter the slightest when scanning?
>>3135959
probably better in strips because they'll be flatter in the film holder. but yeah doesn't matter at all for scanning
Has anyone used a 35mm to 120 adapters to shoot 35mm film in a Holga? Would that help with the shitty vignetting?
>>3135962
you're trying to polish a turd here pal. the lens is made of plastic, you're never going to get anything that could be described as 'sharp' out of it
>>3135557
Azriel Knight, David Hancock, Old Cameras
>>3135963
Did I ever say I wanted a sharp image? I was asking if the vignetting isn't as noticeable since the negative is smaller than 120.
>>3135968
I mean, yeah? That's how it works? The vignetting will be less since the negative is smaller. 35mm is ~4.1x smaller in surface area than 6x6 (3600mm sq vs 864mm sq).
Enjoy your shitty camera
>>3135970
>He thinks photography is about having the best gear
ThanK YoU I will enjoy the hell out of it
I'm currently documenting the decay of a city and few villages destroyed by a earthquake almost a year ago.
It's kinda a dangerous job, police patrols the red zones and some buildings could collapse while I'm passing there. In few weeks I'll post the results here.
>>3135985
sounds neat, have fun/don't die
>>3135987
I survived the first shock, I'll manage to not die like a fool. Thanks
>>3135985
Can't wait to see these make a new thread to post em so that all of /p/ will see
>>3135972
what?
he didn't say that at all. if it's a shitty camera it's a shitty camera. it might fill the purpose of taking pictures but it's still shit otherwise
>>3135985
Where is this, is it the Accumoli earthquake?
>>3136005
Yes, I was in a small village in the Accumoli municipality during the earthquake, currently I'm in Amatrice, the Municipality that had the highest number of victims and probably collapsed villages.
>>3135985
kino incoming.
>>3136011
cheers man I wish you heaps of luck there! can't wait for the pics!
>>3136018
Thanks for your support man, the project is still in progress, I guess I'll have to expose at least other 5-6 rolls, then I'll process them and start to share something here.
>>3135985
I wanna go to places like this and photograph them but I don't have any money and wouldn't know what to do with them after anyway
Do you just post them somewhere and hope they get noticed or do you try and send them to associated press
>>3136043
Well, generally you have to be so lucky/unlucky to have your roots in such places.
I don't want to earn a penny from that work, otherwise it would be like exploiting a dead body. Some pictures will be posted around the internet, some maybe included in a e-book that I'll sell to raise some funds to restore something that has been ruined and risks to be forgotten by the government. I don't even know how many people would buy that and at what price.
>>3135772
Velvia 100 in 220 is still being made.
>>3136120
source right fucking now I thought all 220 film had been discontinued
>kills off Neopan 1600 135 and a slew of other films
>still producing 220 anything
wtf mate
>>3136138
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-FujiFilm-Velvia-100-ISO-220-Film-For-Medium-Format-Camera-from-Japan-0817-/253099371595?hash=item3aede5ec4b:g:ueQAAOSw0hlZE--c
>expires may 2019
Seems like a pretty good deal.
>17 rolls of 220 Portra 800
>expired, but cold stored
http://www.ebay.com/itm/kodak-portra-800-220-Expired-Film-Lot/332333261827?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D45560%26meid%3D96a501680e474d76aaf5f9739fd955ea%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D182669426978&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851
Can i shoot at night with 200 ISO film`?
>>3136272
sure, if you use a tripod, flash, or long shutter speeds
>>3136273
Approximately how long of a shutter speed should I use?
>>3136274
mate how am I supposed to know, I'm not a light meter. no possible way I could tell you what settings to use without actually being there with you, holding your dick while you take a piss
Take a meter reading and it'll tell ya. Probably in the region of 1/2 to over 30 seconds depending just how dark it is. You're gonna need flash if you wanna shoot handheld
>>3136275
Cool, getting a light meter app then and hoping for the best. Thanks.
>>3136276
Don't forget about reciprocity failure. Above around 2 seconds your exposure will be exponentially longer than metered. I think there are some apps that have exposure correction data for different films.
>>3135575
oh fuck i was sheaded there this upcomming weekend?
What ND do you reccoemnd? Do i need a dust housing?
Have someone done anything at night with 800 iso film?
Post pics
Pic unrelated but cc appreciated.
Was just wondering if anyone currently had and rollei infrared 400 laying around?
On the inside of the box it should have a development time for ilfotec DDX.
I can't find the processing time anywhere online.
Can anyone help me out?
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>>3136407
I took some photos in an abandoned council chambers at 1600 but that was with a flash?
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>>3136408
>>3136410
forgot to resize sorry
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>>3136408
Queen Mary Falls right?
I was down there just recently, great spot for photos
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>>3136412
Yeah dude, lovely spot. That's an awesome shot btw.
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>>3136407
I got some stuff with Natura 1600 but no 800. I did just pick up a roll of Venus 800, will try to shoot it next.
>>3135557
www.youtube.com/channel/UCZpSVIFxNV_p62fkuucmtnA
Not really a photography channel but they have a couple of decent film videos.
>Epson V750 in charge of scanning slides
It''s so hazy/foggy. B&W and C-41 is just fine.
Velvia 100F
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Recommended macro lens for film "scanning"? I think the FD > EOS adapter is fucking things up. I am getting a glare in the center of the photos. The lens is also kinda loose. I can move it and when I do that, the glare gets worse or better. meh.
So I just discovered a P900 can take macro as close as pressing up on the front element. So, given a diffusing lightbox, dad with a P900, and a lack of fucks to give for scanning film with a super zoom on a bridge camera sensor, it's an easy way to scan film.
>>3135575
why the fuck are you shooting high speed film in daylight
Are you retarded?
Ive bought a Minolta x300 today. First ever camera, I have no idea of what I'm doing. Film came out with a brighter strip on top and bottom. Shot on Ilford HP 5 Plus 400. Ive used Ilfosol 3 Developer, 1+9 dillution at 24 degrees for 5:30. 3 rinses with 22 degrees water. 4 minutes in Ilford Rapid Fixer, 1+4 dillution at 24 degrees. Why the bright edges?
>>3136693
You didn't fix for long enough, by the look of it.
Respool the film, fix again.
Also, 5:30 is a very short dev time for an active developer.
Switch to 20 degrees.
Also, I'm sorry you got memed into a Menelta.
I really don't know how this keeps happening to your dumb american fucks.
>>3136587
Your adapter is pure trash, and it's leaking light.
I would do two things to fix this, assuming you don't want to just order another one from a different seller and hope it works better.
Also I'm assuming you just bought a plain metal mount adapter, and not one of those coathanger abortions with a lens in it to allow infinity focus and fuck your shit up with CA and field curvature. You don't need infinity focus to scan film.
You need to shim your mount to get rid of the slop.
Use a thin, tough plastic if you have some available, like that black gardenbed stuff, or paper if you can't find anything like that.
After that, tape over your mount with opaque tape once it's on the camera.
Obviously this shit is a pain in the ass, but I'm assuming you shoot film now, and the digi will just be for scanning.
Just trying a new lab.
Is this shit? (Pic related, 35mm Ektar 100)
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>>3136773
Lab scans are always shit, anon.
>>3136775
Okie, but what specifically is shit about it? The last lab I used I was disappointed with, but after failing to get good enough scans on my own/lacking patience I tried a new one and I liked the results. What specifically is wrong with it?
>>3136768
why does minolta get so much hate?
>>3136777
Soft as shit mane.
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>>3136786
This. Those noritsu scanners are there to sucker you for money, not provide quality scans. Their tonal range is shit, and they're soft as fuck. And don't fool yourself thinking the operator is going to fuck with curves or levels for you.
At least the colors and highlights in the photo aren't btfo. The clouds retain decent detail. The bushes are soft mushy messes though.
>>3136782
Unreliable, ugly, lenses are nothing special, cloth shutters long after they became deprecated, dead mount. Practically ANY other jap SLR is a better choice.
1/4
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>>3136794
2/4
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>>3136796
3/4
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>>3136797
4/4
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>>3136782
Autism, as per usual.
>>3136782
One Anon is really butthurt about them for some reason.
I don't mind though. Being less popular means more cheap lenses for me.
>>3136408
I herd Rollei IR400 is the literal same stock as Retro 400s, Superpan 200, and Maco AQS. Furthermore, JCH StreetPan looks and feels exactly like the other three (which I have samples of).
So you could try one of those, with the MDC recipes for IR exposures (ISO 6 or 12 w/ a 750nm, generally).
>watch nhk
>back in the day people toss the film canisters in the forest
>mountain guides glad camera became digital
film btfo
>>3136835
>get prints
why
>>3135557
Negative Feedback
>>3136834
>degenerate assholes who litter in natural parks have always been the same type of scum
>implying the rise in popularity of bottled water since the death of film hasn't completely offset the litter saved from tiny film canisters being discarded when you need to change a roll
>implying anybody who changes a roll in the nature doesn't just put the finished roll in the next one's canister, to protect it from impact or moisture
Yeah, uh, film btfo guys...
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>>3136834
>fucking gaijin tourists ruining japan even back in the film days
>>3136770
Or should I get a Epson V550 for 130 euros? I am kinda done with "building" a set up now. It has been months. Getting a piece of glass. Another milky one. Getting a lens. Now I have to build something but I don't have the motivation anymore.
Look what came in the mail /p/
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I just bought a 50mm Zeiss Planar for my M4 for $470 dollars, did I do good /p/?
Whats the superior SLR mount for manually focusing
Canon FD, Nikon F, Minolta MD, Pentax-k or M42?
noob here. i have a mju ii and would like to know whats a good bw and colour film to shoot at night. I'm usually walking around the neighbourhood where there are only streetlights and the flash is spoilt. thanks
>>3136921
Whichever has the best focusing screen and brightest viewfinder.
>>3136934
just use the flash and any film
>>3136936
the flash is not working.
>>3136921
The one you have with you
>>3136934
Not much choice in color.
There's superia, portra, and cinestill tungsten in 800.
And Superia in 1600.
If streetlights are yellow and you want normal colours you might wanna try the cinestill.
B&W just go with a 400 like tri-x or fp4 and push if self devving.
>>3136934
Natura 1600.
And get your flash fixed.
>>3136946
Do you think these might work for concert photography as well?
>>3136873
Well the V550 is gone. I still can get a Canoscan 9950f (accepts 120) and a Minolta Dimage Dual Scan III (35mm only and seems like it has pretty good scans).
>>3136952
You can make a large leap by using anti-Newton glass instead of the flimsy plastic negative carriers.
>>3136921
M42 is the patrician’s choice
>>3136967
You know "patrician" means the opposite of "brokeass slavshit" right?
>>3136956
The newest top level epson is supposed to have anti-newton carriers actually.
>>3136951
I'd suggest the 9950f, but mainly because I'm interested in the scanner myself and would like someone to check it out before committing. 30 frames of 135 at a pop seems like something I could very much use.
>>3136983
Still thinking about it. The Minolta is a dedicated scanner and is probably a bit better with 35mm. But the 120 makes the Canoscan a better choice. Meh.
Minolta = €45
Canoscan = €115
Helppp
I am not selling anything on Facebook Marketplace ever again
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>>3136975
I have the V550, it's just a year old so I don't think I'm buying a new one any time soon. Loose ANG is a bit of a hassle but the results warrant it. Shame I have to retroactively rescan everything I have because I did a lot of it without ANG. Ddo you have any experience with wet mounting by the way?
>>3137036
There is also a Dimage Dual Scan IV.
>>3137045
The power of brand names
>>3136970
>based Zeiss and Takumar glass
>slavshit
>>3137048
What’s your software setup/workflow for the V550? Just got one and I’m fairly happy with the results but thinking I could do more.
Anyone here have photos the developed themselves?
>>3137036
If I can influence your decision a little, my CanoScan 9000f mk2 makes very nice 120 scans -- as long as the negatives are within reasonable levels of hi-fi, the scanner is far from the weakest link in the process. If you're shooting a 'blad or something else significantly more modern than Kievs and Bronicas, a better 120 scanner may be indicated. And that 115€ for a scanner that retails for 400 is a great price.
Shit, I'd get both if these were available to me. Paid like 230€ for my existing flatbed...
>>3135772
I have some.
r8 my first RA4 darkroom print /p/eople
I can now understand why people prefer labs for colour. Open trays of chemicals and not knocking them over in pitch black darkness is a challenge to say the least. As is counting seconds in your head accurately
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>>3137111
You should try DSLR scanning
this might be a stupid question:
why the fuck does my local camera shop charge extra for push processing ($1 per stop in either direction)?
Is there an actual reason are is it just some bullshit scam?
I'm thinking of just removing the labels and lying to them saying the film is a different speed than what it really is so I don't have to pay extra
>>3137145
IIUC there's like nanolabs and such that you can use to process single sheets at once, in daylight once the sheet has been inserted. That being said, the colours didn't turn out well on that one, or the picture was without them to begin with.
>>3137154
They likely do it in a separate job, or have to configure the minilab a little different for each time. They also get less film to be processed that way, so there's an extra charge. Be glad they do this at all.
>>3137154
No scam at all, when you ask to your lab to push or pull a roll they'll have to develop it alone, so more time for less film.
Labs with a lot of work generally develop 5 or more rolls of the same type together to save time and chemicals.
>>3137164
Box speed C-41 development is identical between films regardless of ISO. It's only push, or pull, development that changes anything about it. For B&W, everything's already custom, but special development can still be charged a tiny extra for.
Up here it's double the cost for the first roll, subsequent ones for normal price in the same batch.
>>3135937
Stop using auto color software and learn how to use curve masks.
>>3137160
Well it is a stone statue against a stone background, so there isn't that much colour. Other than that, there is a very slight yellow cast but overall I'm not disappointed at this first try. I don't really have the space for a nanolab and I prefer larger prints anyways, so I'll try to improve my current, tray development situation
>>3136921
Nikon, so the only other lenses that focus the same way are Bronicas, and you'll fuck up using anything else :DDDD.
Although in a twist of fate, Fuji's aperture rings go in the same direction as Nikon.
>>3137148
Memer no memeing
>>3137045
The real question is why are you trying to sell one of the finest 35mm cams in existence for the cost of a bottle of scotch?
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>>3137222
A VSCO pack costs $59.
Maybe he has a $9 giftcard or something.
>>3137222
Well how much will you pay for it anon? I am selling all of my 35mm shit so I can have a little rangefinder for travel photography. Currently I have a Mamiya C330 as my major work force.
>>3137246
Do you shoot professionally? Do you shoot film for something you're paid for?
ok /fgt/ I have a question. When I dslr scan the three rolls of portra 400 I shot over the last month the scan come out very blue. I have been told these is because of the orange hue to the film emulsion. How do I avoid this?? I really have not got usable scans yet.
>>3137254
This is just how Portra is. Shoot another film.
But actually just set your WB manualy to as warm as you can go, shift the green-magenta adjustment until there is no obvious lean in either direction in the lighter parts of the film, output your jpeg, invert and adjust curves from there.
>>3137254
Loading into lightroom and hitting auto white balance actually does a good job of clearing it up for me most of the time.
>>3137265
This worked pretty well. Thank you anon
>>3137251
No I don't. It's a stupid hobby of mine to overcome loneliness of studying mathematics.
>>3137185
Yes, right, meme.
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>>3137383
the flatbed one has its own aesthetic in it. i like that kind of unsharpness, rather than pixels kind of unsharpness
>>3137383
I dropped a roll of this off at my local lab and they had no fucking clue what to do with it.
>>3137383
What about a dedicated 135 scanner?
>>3137393
I guess it's a common C41 roll.
Also I tried many film scanners, after some years I accepted the fact that DSLR scanning is the only method that really respects film characteristics. Obviously enlarger prints are way better than anything.
>>3137400
I was getting more consistabt results with my film scanner than my DSLR, but that was mainly because the dslr was a bitch to get properly set up.
It about matched in quality when everything went right though.
>>3137400
Yea, that is what I told them. They sent it off to a specialty lab just in case though. So four day dev time instead of one hour.
Got some shots of Heian Grand Shrine on it with pretty much zero people there at the time. Looking forward to how the purple turns out.
I recently started shooting medium format (Kodak Ektar) with a Lubitel 166B. It's easy to shoot multiple expoures with this cheap camera, so it's pretty fun experimenting with landscapes.
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>>3137383
>costs 10x as much as a scanner
>large unwieldy setup
>takes longer in post
I don’t deny the result is better but DSLR scanners telling everyone to do the same and not understanding peoples’ individual needs is pure autism.
is photoshop essential?
>>3137417
So we should all just get the Lomography phone scanner?
Has anyone got a lens repaired at Kanto Camera?
Got a junk lens with haze and fungus for pennies on the dollar and wanna se about getting it refurbed.
>>3135962
The vignetting is not as bad, and honestly I find it pleasing when coupled with the soft image (pic related), otherwise why else shoot a Holga if it's not for cheapass 120? In any case, yes, 35mm adapters work good but you'll need:
The 35mm back without window
To manually count the amount of clicks in the advance knob
To manually rewind the film in a dark room
Imho, it's more hassle than just buying a cheap ass 35mm compact off eBay and calling it a day.
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>>3137554
I was considering getting into 120. That image looks good, might pick up a holga to see if I like it before I burn $1k on something nice.
Gonna need a 120 scanner too...
have to get some season ticket for the zoo..
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>>3137557
Take into account that there are some models of Holga with a glass lens (indicated in the product model with a "G", for example GCFN, GFN and others) instead of plastic that take slightly sharper pics. I used one of those.
>>3137593
Whats the differ3 ce between GCFN and GFN and so on? Flash color? Why would I want that?
And man, I am going to look like such a hipster with a fucking holga.
>>3137594
Yup, just the flash with the color selection wheel. You can do fancy color effects on night and inside pics with it but otherwise it's not something out of the ordinary. Just get whatever available.
>>3137490
Coating is proprietary tech, you won't get the same quality coating as the OG. Most of R&D go into coating these days.
>>3136773
The scan is okay for a quick lab job. Try focusing 1/3 up the frame instead of to infinity for landscapes like this.
>>3136904
nice, what kind of shooting are you planning for them?
Can anyone suggest me a solid b&w 400 iso film brand? I wanna take some comfy shots.
>>3137675
Just buy some rolls and shoot my dude why worry about recommendations
>>3137677
I've shot mostly in Kodak Colorplus and Fujicolor, I want to experiment with some b&w.
>>3137679
Ilford is always a safe choice.
Fuji Acros 100 is magnificent, Kodak T-Max 100 and 400 are good for everyday, Foma is what you need when you don't have money but you still want to shot.
Personally I don't like Kodak Tri-X.
Also >>3137677 but don't forget to understand what's behind a picture.
>>3137675
>B&W
>I wanna take some comfy shots.
I claim there is no such thing as black and white comfy - its all about the colour tones with comfy.
Happiest guy in NYC
>>3137675
Ilford HP5 Plus 400 ISO
Scanned into a Canon 9000F
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>>3137675
Kodak TMax 400 is solid
>>3137644
it is a lens from 82. I think it is actually multicoated, but is nothing special. I think pretty much anything would be an improvement.
>>3137557
just buy a lubitel instead, this is /fgt/, we know you're a hipster
speaking of shitty 120 cameras, I just got a moskva 5 with 4 rolls of portra for $50. guy says it works and no bellows leaks. the windows on the back are absolutely going to leak, need to tape them up.
Has anyone tried agfachrome xrg 400? I just bought a half dozen rolls at a thrift place for cheap.
It's probably expired but anyone have any experience?
>>3137557
to be honest, whats the point of doing that? youll get your first roll back, say 'yep, its bigger than 35mm', and then go out and buy a real 120 camera.
thats what i did at least. i shot 1 roll through my holga and then bought a bronica sqa kit a week later. holgas are fun, but no real replacement for a real 120 camera. if youve shot a fair bit of 35mm, 120 is nearly identical. no reason to test the waters
should I get a medium format camera or a zorki-4 or an om4ti to replace my om40
>>3137869
I recommend shooting a Brownie to anyone who shows an interest in a Holga.
Even cheaper, gives you *actual* hipster street cred, doesn't give you the hateful plastic lense CA and flare that the Holga does.
Modifying a 120 reel to fit takes about 2 minutes with some sandpaper.
>>3137869
>whats the point of doing that? youll get your first roll back, say 'yep, its bigger than 35mm', and then go out and buy a real 120 camera.
You know, you are probably right. But I was thinking more in terms of the process of getting 120 developed and scanned.
I don't wanna blow a grand on a 500cm only to find out it will take weeks to get each roll developed and scanned.
>>3137884
Buy a Yashica Mat like a sensible person. $100, good lens, accurate introduction to clunky MF cameras.
>>3137893
I was actually eyeing an autocord.
Will look up the yats too.
>>3137884
Well the thing about buying patrician film cameras is that you're not really blowing your money, as they only increase in value, owing to persistent demand and attrition contributing to scarcity over time.
Also, if you get a lab to run your film, there's no difference. If you do it yourself, yes MF is a bigger pain in the ass to dev and scan, but not prohibitively so.
Just do it, pussy.
>>3137800
Uhhh don't you need those windows to correctly advance the film to the next frame?
>>3137884
shouldn't take any more time to get developed. It's exactly the same film, just bigger. Also develop your own film you tremendous faggot
>>3137936
>>3137928
Pretty sure local lab doesn't do 1 hour dev on 120. And my scanner only does 135.
I would like to dev my own film, but I have no clue how to dispose of chemicals here so I have been hesitant to get started. I think I might get that Lab-Box thing when it is released and give it a try.
i must be stupid but on lightroom 6 i can't seem to invert the tone curve. I'm learning how to scan bw negatives
>>3137990
nvm got it
>>3137956
Lab-box have already been released
few yrs ago
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>>3138008
Not according to their kickstarter or website.
If it has, where can I buy it?
>>3138015
What camera?
>>3137935
Just make a lid with velcro tape and you're done, you don't need to literally tape it down.
is a canon 9000f for us110 a good deal? im currently using a gx8 to scan.
>>3138059
btw its not the mk2 version
I wanna be able to take wide landscape shots on my TLR - can I just whack it on a tripod, take two overlapping frames and stitch in post? Has anybody done this before?
>>3138062
one of the top posts /r/analog is someone who did this with a Hassy and a 80mm, no reason you can't do it too. He did it with like 6 or 7 frames if I remember correctly
Try not to adjust the roll or vertical movement on the tripod, just turn it horizontally otherwise you'll fuck the vertical perspective between the two shots
>>3135553
Got my first roll of Tri-x developed.
Not really impressed with the whole black and white thing. Going back to color.
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>>3138017
They should be delivered the first week of september
>>3138088
Doesn't mean I can order one now though.
>>3138087
Don't think you can really judge the entirety of black and white shooting with just one roll
People shot their entire careers with B&W, seems a bit dismissive to disregard it in one roll
>>3138093
I am not saying all black and white is terrible and no one should shoot it.
Just that I found myself enjoying color more.
I do have to admit a sheet full of black and white negatives look cool as fuck though.
>>3137956
>no clue how to dispose of chemicals
Down the drain is easiest.
>>3138059
Can you get a scan-worthy macro lens for the gx8 for $110 or less? Including adapted classic glass. Typically the answer will be yes; if you've got digital camera scanning already going, a flatbed's only going to get you convenient 120 scans.
Anyway, the mk2 can be had used for less than $110. Dunno which one is better; mk2 is at least 3 years old now. Does it come with extras, like spare film holders or ANR glass?
>>3138103
i have a macro tube I'm using to scan. and I don't shoot 120. just wondering if theres gonna be a diff in quality, since I'm using a m43 to scan.
It says "Comes with original box and all accessories like film scanner plate."
This thing accepts FP-100c backs.
Are these backs universal? I have found a 4x5 (Polaroid) back and I was curious whether it would fit on this camera...
Anyone?
>>3138158
Figure it out. A shatbed is going to have shit quality for 35mm, you have a camera scanning setup already, vintage macro lenses are cheap, and even m43 sensors exceed most film's DR barring things like Portra.
>>3138179
ok thks!
How should a good B&W photo look?
I just came into possession of a Canon AE-1 and a Canon AE-1 Program, I went on a trip and shot my first rolls. Problem is I live in a small town and there's no place to get film developed. Are there any decent places online?? I'm a broke college student so developing my own isn't an option because time// money.
Bought a lot of film from a Photographer cleaning out their dark room.
He had some Provia in it expired in 2004 and a roll of Ektachrome expired in 1989.
He says they were stored at room temperature. The C41 and Black and White stuff should be fine, but I'm wondering about the slide film.
Is it worth shooting? Is it likely that they will be significantly color shifted?
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>>3138267
You might as well shoot it and see how it comes out.
Just be ready for some magenta with that Ektachrome
>>3138099
Is this actually how you guys dispose of your chems?
I've been thinking about developing on my own, but haven't figured out where to dispose of the chems when I finish. Isn't bw fix not safe for dumping? Something about silver
What's the best way to photoshop a streak out of an image?
I just got back my first roll of Ektar. It's nice, but I think I like the colors from Portra 160 better. Which do you kids prefer?
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>>3138290
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>>3138293
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>>3138296
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Just this from a few weeks
What film should I use to replicate these colors while street shootin at night? The max aperture on my lens is f1.8
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Hello guys!
Getting into film, its kind of difficult but i want to get to know all mediums.
I shoot some pictures with my compact Vivitar Series 500 Pz.
But i have some silly questions:
In this picture, i can see a orange tint/reflex, what happened here?
>>3138345
Light leak maybe? The pic is too small to know exactly.
>>3138345
And here i getting a kind of white "mask" all over the image. I managed to solve it increasing the constrast / blacks with lightroom but i want to know why this happened.
>>3138346
fuck sorry. i upload a low rex.
>>3138348
hey /fgt/ I have this weird artifact in all photos from this new camera, are these lightleaks?
>>3138334
tungsten balanced colour negative.
Good luck,..
>>3137870
OM4Ti is a waste of money, the improvements compared to the OM4 or even OM3 are minimal, but the price difference is not. I mainly use an OM1 and a Bronica ETRS
>>3138015
>those legs
10/10 exactly my fetish. Also good photo
>>3138087
>Having b/w developed
>Only scanning it
This is like saying you dislike a restaurant because you didn't like the way the welcome mat looked. There is a whole world to discover with various combinations of developer and film, pushing/pulling and then of course darkroom printing. You can make a work of art from a photo or ruin it, depending on what you do. Contrast, detail, grain, dodging and burning, split grade exposing, toning, all things you can influence in the path towards the final print. Black and white analog photography is not 'just colour photography but without colour', it's just different. It has its own strengths and weaknesses. I do both colour and b/w darkroom printing and I like b/w a lot more. It leaves more artistic room than colour. Basically you make a good or a bad colour print. With b/w, there is no 'good or bad' (well there is, but you get the idea), you can make an infinite amount of different yet great prints from one negative and you can make a (near) infinite amount of different negatives from one exposure (although you make that choice only once instead of as often as you have paper)
>>3138272
You're spot on with the Magenta. This is Ektachrome that expired in 2004, uncorrected
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>>3138276
b/w fixer is supposedly not good for dumping, but the amount is extremely small for a casual home user, it's probably not worth taking it to your local chemical disposal place. there are things you can do to try to neutralize the chemicals before dumping them.
>>3138469
So like, all things you can do with digital images, except in color?
I've just developed my own negatives and now I want to scan them with my DSLR. Do I HAVE to use a macro lense or can I get by with an ordinary 50mm or whatever?
>>3138589
i just tried using both a 50 and plus a macro tube. problem is you can't focus close enough so u lose resolution to cropping. how much depends on the close focusing distance
>>3138541
>Shilling digicuckery in the /fgt/
>>3136988
Indeed. Genuinely couldn't ask for a better viewfinder, maybe hard to find now but used to have focusing screens for anything you can ask for, also Zuiko lenses have impeccably smooth focus rings.
>>3138475
Was this frozen or not?
>>3138466
OM-4Ti is definitely not worth the money for the difference between it and OM-4. It's like, 1.3x or something silly these days. Buys a lot of spare batteries since the only major fault is OM-4's battery draining, and lack of automatic multiflash at faster than 1/60s. The prism is of course astonishing, if not as huge as that on an OM-2.
But if you're into the platform, an OM-4Ti is an extremely pimp body to have. Comparable to FM3a in terms of luxury, but the glass doesn't have Nikkor tax and it's Oly small. In any case don't be driving the prices up now ya hear.
>>3138505
The amount of silver in 1-2l of exhausted photo fixer working solution is so minute that it vanishes into the sewage within seconds of flushing. Two-bath fixing will take the first fixer to maximum utilization, for those who don't trust basic figures about dilution and sewer flow and/or who'd just like to tweak their process a bit more.
Silver is considered a hazard because it's biocidal, i.e. it kills little beasties like bacteria, fungi, water bears and shit. That's why there's stabilizer for C-41, but black and white requires none -- the silver is antibacterial to begin with, and with it taken away it's better to get some poison in the gelatin so it doesn't age as quickly. So if you were dumping like, jewelry wastes, that might be significant -- but there'll be like at most tens of milligrams in a gallon of spent fixer, not enough to kill a baby frog from five feet away.
>>3138412
>>3138334
>What is Kodak Vision 500T / Cinestill 800T?
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Where do u get film and do developing in Europe? Or do I do it myself?
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How do I edit my pics (like this 1) to have truer blacks?
Ik this is likely an easy google search but I don't rly know what to search for.
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>>3138869
In photoshop:
>Layer
>New adjustmentlayer
>Curves
>hold alt and press auto
>enhance per channel contrast
>adjust RGB levers if needed
>make new curves layer
>alt + auto
>enhance brightness and contrast
>adjust opacity to that layer if needed (most of the time it is needed)
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>>3138879
Saw this on facebook, GW690 group. Had a nasty green cast and shit contrast.
Gave same treatment as to your image.
Portra 400
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>>3138879
This as well. From /p/ some time ago
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>>3138791
The standard microprism screen is much easier to use than a split image screen too, imo
>>3135985
enjoy the lead dust and asbestos
>>3138822
So you're saying for black and white fixer that's been exhausted, there should be no issue dumping into sewage via bathtub/toilet? I've always read otherwise
Hi friends, I have a question for thee, my Pentax K1000 has recently been doing odd things to half of my photos, and now its been doing it to all of them. It looks to me like an underexposed photo, however I can take two photos in the exact same location and settings and get one fine and the other with the underexposed look. I am not 100% sure on the exact cause so if someone could point me towards a fix I would be eternally grateful even if its a very simple issue and I am being a moron.
Pic 1 is the effect, ill reply with a photo taken immediately after that is fine (albeit I missed the focus)
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So I'm taking bets, $100 says the new /fgt/ op WON'T be an oc square format image that actually contains film.
>your snapshit on film doesn't count
>a google image doesn't count
>a photo of film gear doesn't count
I will double the bet if the new op image actually meets the requirements AND is taken on film.
>>3138899
I won't say it's totally neutral, but you probably pass worse things through your body than what goes down in exhausted fixer. (and consider things like dishwasher liquids; that's some extreme high-pH shit right there.) You'll also find that 100% of film photographers just dump their fixer down the toilet.
I have my gear and film upstairs in the loft of my home. It is a finished loft and furnished with a window a/c unit. I run the a/c when I am home but when I am gone it can get pretty stuff up there. I seen online they have these fridges for gear in Japan. Anyone have these? Are they worth it or overkill?
What's the cheapest way to get film developed and scanned in full resolution? I live in Portland but it seems that there are no cheap local options. Any good internet services that are decently cheap?
I'm sad boys
I member now that I had the aperture at 22 for all my three rolls of film
Now I will not get cool blurry effect on my photos, when they are done developing.