Homegrowmen Thread #87

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To the guy who knew about growing morels outdoors, could you post some of your insights into what it takes to consistently get yields of morels (and chanterelles if possible)?

>>999058
>Do chillies always grow slowly in there first 2-3 months of life?

I've had pepper plants start blooming at the 1-1.5 month stage. could be the cultivar. Hungarian Wax Peppers are pretty fast.

>>999086
Hopefully, he returns. He seems like an amiable chap.

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>>999089
Weaboo degeneracy, in my plant growing thread?

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>>999092
>>999096
We actually had a 3-thread round table discussion to select a new image that wasn't one of these old meme images.

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>>999101
This was the first one to be used for a while. Art done by a homegrowmen.

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>>999102
>>999101
This is the latest one. Art cobbled together from online photos. I think anything with a prominent 4-leaf clover and homegrowmen title can be used as long as people can see it quickly in the catalog.

Bumping the real homegrown thread.
In order to facilitate location of the thread and to keep consistency, this is the official new thread (also mentioned before the weeb pic thread on the previous one).

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>tfw you have to run out, in the middle of the night to cover a plant to guard against frost, because you forgot

At least I wasn't asleep. I hate waking up at 2am like O_O; and running out with plastic and bedsheets to cover everything.

>>999083
Bump

Does anyone else grow chickweed? I chopped all mine down like a week or two ago. Now its all come back with these rains. It is super delicious and tender-crunchy again. I should have cut it back like that sooner, the older growth was getting a little twiggy feeling.

I have to harvest some and chop it all down again since it is in my asparagus bed and I'm hoping the asparagus seedlings from last year actually come up.

>>999110
>>999135
Don't do that please.

>>999086
>>999091
I am in the other thread.

/hgm/ needs its own board

Hey there. It's been almost two months and my kumquat plants are growing along nicely.

I've been doing the ghetto green house method with plastic bottles and a grow lamp.
Some of their leaves are getting a bit crowded inside the bottles.
Dumb question, but do I need to slowly adapt them to being non-bottled?(like a transition)

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Dis snibs the bepper.
God that felt terrible to do.

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>>999320
>do I need to slowly adapt them to being non-bottled?(like a transition)

No, you only need to harden them off if you are putting them outside. That will help prevent sun scalding of the leaves. Merely repotting properly or allowing them more room in the same environment shouldn't harm them.

>>999348
Thinning is even worse. A least you know yours is in good health and should recover nicely. Keep us posted on its progress. I've never done that with my pepper plants and I'm interested in seeing how it progresses. I've only ever trimmed mine when I overwinter them inside. (reposted pic)

>>999348
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Grow well, little pepper!

>>999357
>Keep us posted on its progress
I will, I'm regularly taking pictures for future reference, since this is my first time growing anything.
I'm also going to try to fuse 2 different kinds because I have a handful of 'leftovers', I wonder how that'll turn out.

>>999358
Thanks bruh

>>999110
The only official thread is the one that lasts the longest.

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Mine (just 2 bell pepper varieties and Cayenne hot pepper, 6 of each) are now almost all in the ground, had become too big to keep in the tiny pots, plus fuck the constant watering and fertilising. Of those I put outside already in March and survived the initial sunburn (just a few were left over), all survived the very unusual -3°C earlier this week, and yet another frost is extremely unlikely now.

Just keeping one of each variety potted for later overwintering

>>999348
Don't worry, I do it all the time. Peppers are hard to kill, and your remaining leaves are in good shape so it's a good start.
Next time you can try cutting closer to the new buds, 1mm above the top of the higher bud junction with the stem. Anything longer will probably decay (usually it's not really a problem, just not pretty)

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>>999387
>tfw still needing to worry about frost

Though, I just discovered wunderground.com and it seems that the temps are steadily moving up. I love their graphs. Hopefully, this morning is the last morning below 50F/10C. I'm planning on planting everything outside the tunnel next week.

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Got my soil tests in earlier this week.

Results are not great.

The railroad ties used on this bed almost absolutely were treated with lead arsenate, and it has leached into the soil, up to 10x over the "hazardous" levels.

I read some heavy metal abatement documentation which said you'll probably be alright if you don't grow tubers or radishes, wash everything really well before you bring it into the house, and don't compost any of the scraps. Still not worth the risk for me, considering that soil isn't the best anyway. Guess these plots are going to be for decorative items like gourds, flowers, etc.

I'll have to put my tomatoes in straw bales, but even then I'm a little late to the season. Time to get goin'


>>999404
Did you ever use Weatherspark before their map got neutered? Best weather site I've ever used.

Also neat tunnels.

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Am I overwatering my french bean seedlings?

>>999408
That sucks dude, thanks for the info. I remember you mentioning those railroad spikes some time ago and wondered how much damage they could really do. I never would have figured they could contaminate that soil so much!

>>999316
>>999316
>>999316
>>999316
Or just all the /homeX/ threads, like brewing, growing, and homesteading.

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>>999392
Cheers man, I'll keep that in mind. Would it be ok to snip the 2 I already did a little shorter? It's been a few hours.

I also just transplanted another 5. I bound a cap 1166 and caramel bhut together, but I just found out they're a different family (c. annuum vs c. chinense) so I wonder how they'll do. I should check these things before diving in...

The only ones that are still in their beginner pots are 2 sad looking bolivian rainbows, hoping at least one of those will pull through, and a little leafless stem that I accidentally snapped the top off. It's still green after 5 days, so I'm not tossing it yet.

>>999404
Oh I can't wait that long, in our "oceanic" climate (hasn't rained in ages) such lows can even sometimes occur in July/August. On average not much heat here, so I have to plant my stuff relatively early to get the most out of the season and just hope for lack of late frosts - no such luck this year.
For example even when starting tomatoes in January/February inside and planting mid-April outside, the first ripe cherry variety fruits won't appear before early July, beefsteak and bottle varieties mid to late July

>>999413
Most likely.

>>999408
Damn! I really think you need to use raised beds that have a root barrier to prevent plants from reaching local soils.

Google "Phytoremediation" and "Phytoremediation of heavy metals". It is basically growing specific plants that will uptake the pollutants where you can remove them.

It's hailing again.
I was hoping to be able to plant my beans outside maybe 1 week ago at worst.
I need a good way to keep them upright in a tight space without any good means of putting stakes down. Also I used some of these (pic, ~11cm^2). Should I find something bigger to plant them in for the sake of the roots?

>>999083
Question, has anyone here ever tried growing seeds from Aliexpress? I was browsing around and you can get a bunch of weird shit like bonsai seeds and mushrooms for less than a dollar. I'm assuming it's a scam, but just wanted to get your guys' thoughts.

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>>999456
>pic

>>999425
You mean snipping the little-too-long stem above the buds? If yes, you can do that anytime you want but it's far easier while it's still green (once rotting it turns to brown).
If you mean the other plants in your pic, while they will in all probability perfectly recover, I would wait for some more pairs of leaves. They'd have much more roots and would deal fine with anything.

>>999445
In all honesty the soil seems doomed for alimentary purpose for a good time. Though it would be a good way to tell if metal-trapping by plants is efficient on a personal garden scale, checking regularly with soil analysis

>>999459
Never bought seeds from Aliexpress yet, but I assume they're all more or less the same sellers as on eBay, and so far my experiences with cheap eBay seeds has been pretty good. They take a while to arrive, but they germinate just as well as any other seeds.

>>999459
Yeah, those are 99% scams. Don't go cheap when it comes to seeds. Buy from expensive places and places that have excellent long term rep. Especially those that are local or from the US.

>>999459
>>999466
Forgot to mention, bonsai seeds don't exist. The only way you can get a bonsai is by buying one in Ikea or by spending literal decades constantly cutting back a seedling so it grows a huge stem.

>>999456
Hoe long ago did you plant them? Remember broad beans need stakes.

>>999459
The legal aspects are worth to consider. You can't just bring anything into a country.

>>999470
Yeah they need stakes but I was assuming to be able to plant them soon and I have no good indoor solutions.

So I'm wondering if anyone has something nifty.

>>999473
Just put them in a pot and add a stake.

>>999471
True, but I've bought other sketchy shit off of Ali before and never had a problem. I don't think they usually bother inspecting the packages. Although I've never bought seeds before, so it might be a bit different, I don't know.

>>999082
They shouldn't grow too slow.
Maybe you just have the feeling they do. Earlier growth is much more noticeable.
How about water, sun, warmth, pot size?

>>999348
>>999357
Seconding this.
I'm interested how this will turn out, too.

>>999425
>cap 1166
Elaborate please.

>>999566
>>999583

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Desperate attempts at trying to garden. Already made some errors so hopefully they don't fuck my season up.

>>999385
>Home grown thread with generic anime girl and lots of copy paste responses taken from this thread and the previous thread.
>>999061
>Got deleted.

>Inb4: OP from the other thread here, I deleted it because.

Is nice to know the mods and jannies took an instance in this theme.

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Apparently French Tarragon can't be grown from seed, and can only be grown from cuttings. I don't understand this. Where did the first French Tarragon plant come from then?

>>999648
Maybe it's like a mule, but because it's a plant you can make more copies of the mule.

>>999408
Mustard greens have an unusually high tolerance for heavy metals.
You can grow them in order to draw the metals out of the soil, then throw them away to get rid of the metals.

>>999623
Looks good, but those squash/zucchini plants are going to get massive.

>>999668
>>999648
Yeah, it rarely flowers and when it does it is sterile. Thus, you can grow it from rhizomes or cuttings.

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>>999575
http://www.fataliiseeds.net/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=139
That guy's site inspired me to give it all a go, and I just ordered a bunch of easy to grow ornamentals, and a superhot to troll my 'i like it super spicy' friends. That is, assuming I manage to get fruits on any of them.

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And a question: should I snip these too? They both seem to have split with their last set of leaves.
If yes, also right above the first leaves, or higher up?

>>999759
You can if you want, but as I told you before I would wait for some more leaves (like one or two pairs more).

Then, I'd cut above the second pair of true leaves. That way, if anything bad ever happen, you still have potential buds under the cut (at the leaf-stem junction). Whereas if you cut on the first pair, you have no growth site remaining after that.

>>999774
u funni

>>999792
Aight, I was just wondering because they now are as far ahead as those I already snipped were.
I'll just wait a bit, it's note like you can rush these things.

>>999425
Pflanz doch auch einfach aus, oder wohnst du im tiefsten Osten? Die vertragen schon mal kurz leichten Frost

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>>999840
I'm from Flemisch Belgium, I can understand only a little basic german.
I live on the first floor, but do have a relatively big balcony, on which I mounted a simple plastic greenhouse thingy (pic related). They'll be moved there when they're a bit bigger, and on sunny days I'll just open the flap or put em outside.

>>999934
how much did that cost?

>>999934
Oh sorry, was mentally still on /int/ I guess (where local language is encouraged) and I remember you posting pics with "Gelbe Säcke" if I'm not mistaken?

Anyway, if you have no garden you will need quite big pots (~50 litre) and/or have to fertilise a lot.
You probably have heavy clay soil too, and as much as it sucks to work on in the garden, it makes excellent potting soil as it is super fertile and you'll need much smaller pot size than when using light flower soil from the store for the same effect
Anyways, peppers, especially when already advanced a bit, are super prone to sunburn from my experience, so you have to get them used to UV slowly and gradually (first put them out on a mild cloudy day in the evening for 2 hours or so and advance from there)

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>>999939
€35. No idea if it'll withstand stronger winds, but so far it's holding up pretty well. If it doesn't, it won't be an expensive lesson.

>>1000065
>posting pics with "Gelbe Säcke"
I don't think that wasn't me, heh.
And I'm not going for big harvests, if I get a handful from any of them I'm already a happy camper, my endgoal is making bonsai out of one or more of them, so I'm not gonna bother with fuckhuge pots.
So far I'm just using a bag of potting soil mixed with perlite, I have no garden to get soil from, pic related is our 'outside space'.
And thanks for the sunburn warning! I was planning to slowly introduce them, but did not know they were that sensitive.

>>1000106
Oh confused you then, thought you were >>998740
But nice to know there's at least 3 pepper growers from NW Yurop posting on here right now.

Yeah, aside from those I planted in the garden (I'm >>999387), I'm planning to keep one of each variety in pots too (gradually sizing up) as perennials (pic related on the bottom). Still sitting in flower soil right now, but next size up will be local clay. I snipped the first-appearing central flower a couple weeks ago to increase yield as you're supposed to, now Cayenne is flowering again from the side shoots!
I already had them gradually outside in late March/early April, but the stupid cold wave lately means they've been inside again for the last ~2 weeks, so I'll have to re-harden them again...
Nice looking patio, what side is it facing? Best for plant growth generally would be south/south-west.
And yes, sunburn is critical, even the weak 50°N March sun managed to fuck the shit up of my first batch I planted out, now in late April the UV index is even higher, so take care!
Can't you just take a walk in the countryside and collect some soil from there? This should do them good, even if you plan to keep it small. Might want to microwave or oven-bake the soil first before using to kill weed seeds

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>>1000124
...aaand forgot pic

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>>999684

MUSTARD?!

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Contaminated soil isn't slowing me down.

We strawmen now

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>>1000149

STRAW

MEN
I planted a bunch of sunflowers in the beds. They're supposedly really good at sequestering arsenic.

I also planted some luffa, and some marigolds and cosmos.

Once the bales start to get compost-y, I'll plant 8 tomatoes in the "parking lot" bales, and then peppers, eggplant, and misc in the "walkway" bales.

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Chicks and poults. I already had one die. I swear Cornish x Rock is the worst breed. They drop dead at the slightest thing. At least I won't have them very long. They've already tripled in size in only a few days and are heavier than the much old turkeys.

>>1000132
It is true. Mustard has a thing for Danzig.

>>1000149
>>1000155
Looking good.

Is there any use for bolted lettuce or should I just pull it out of the ground to make space for something else?

>>1000237
Seeds for the next growing cycle at the end of the warm season.

>>1000237
seeds, that's about it.

If you like turnip greens try turnips next time. you can take the greens while it is growing and have turnips in the fall/winter.

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Good jalapeno? Never grown pepper before it look kinda green/yellow

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/hgm/ approved youtubers?

>>1000348
A little on the yellowing side but it's OK. Is the soil all pine bark, or is it just the top?
Internodes are quite long also, a little more light wouldn't be bad

>>1000350
Growing Your Greens
https://youtu.be/fapkCBqbu04

California Gardening
https://youtu.be/wN_dkpCn6yk

MIgardener
https://youtu.be/z-f3gVwNkcw

>>1000350
https://youtu.be/GxPNhnxB4L8

This guy gets crazy potato harvests

>>1000356
That's just home depot mulch on top. It's just kellogs putting soil mixed with miracle grow peat moss and some miracle grow bone meal fertilizer. Gets sun all day like 10 to 6 but I can get it more so I'll do that.

Also thanks for the internode tip!

>>1000361
>>1000377
>tfw most of my purple ones had already shot and were hit by late frost last week
Can only hope they'll come again

>>999459
Most of what I've heard of chink seeds is that they're fine. just don't go for the dumb shit like fruit that will supposedly grow to look like tits (they won't.)

Probably not such a bad idea if you just want to pick a decent variety all at once for cheap and don't mind the wait and such.

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>>999083
I'm growing hops and some feedback would be terrific.

I've got a 12 foot by 5.5 foot raised planter box where I've planted 9 rhizomes of 3 different varietals; Chinook, Centennial, and Mt. Hood. I probably have them a bit to closely planted with regard to separating varietals but given I'm not making a commercial product, I don't mind.

My questions are what sort of food is best for them, is there a natural pest repellent I can use, and which trellis design works the best for collecting hops?

Pic related is the largest shoot I have so far, a Mt. Hood bine-to-be. Hopefully it posts vertically.

>>1000479
I should also mention I'm in the Pacific Northwest, north west of Seattle. We're a little cooler than Seattle temperature-wise.

>>1000284
Did so with mine in March this time around (not in November like I did with that one plant back in 2015).
Though I ordered the seeds from the same shop and treated them exactly the same (pots covered with plastic foil on heater near window), the germination couldn't have been more different.
Sugar Baby: 6 out of 6 (all up within a couple days)
Crimson Sweet: 1 out of 12 (my first try didn't show anything after 2-3 weeks, on the second try just one came up)
Gotta try and find young plants of the latter somewhere

>>1000479
>is there a natural pest repellent I can use
You can buy insects that feed on other insects, like parasitic wasps and praying mantises. You can also spray some slightly soapy water onto the plant if you see bugs on it, to kill them.

Beyond that, I think every pest is different. The countermeasure for slugs, for example, is to set out a bowl filled with beer, they'll drown themselves in it.

>>1000484
Thank you, I've used ladybugs for aphids in the past. It was pretty neat seeing a box containing an army of little bugs all over my plants.

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>>1000065
>Oh sorry, was mentally still on /int/ I guess (where local language is encouraged) and I remember you posting pics with "Gelbe Säcke" if I'm not mistaken?
That was me, the Anon with the "shitload of peppers". I'm from Germany yes.
And the "Gelbe Säcke" are there just in case my watering aim is off.

>>1000106
If you worried about sunburn, use a sun shade or umbrella (maybe someone you know has an old one you can have for free).
The light canvas ones are nice, give shade but wont go full eclipse on your plants.

You could add little stairs in front of one of the walls or inside your little greenhouse thingy. Saves space while no plant blocks out the sun for another one.

>>1000126
Is the huge one a tomato plant? That thing is glorious!

>>1000348
>>1000356
Some peppers, Jalapenos including, have their leaves a little on the yellow side, so it might be just the picture. But yeah more sun never hurts.
You could also top it to increase yield.

>>1000350
DUDE

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>>1000124
>Nice looking patio, what side is it facing?
It's pointing SSE, so pretty good for my plants.
>>1000126
I know nothing about plants yet, but I'd say those look good!

I just went to buy some fertilizer, and couldn't resist picking up this little guy. Should I cut off those first flower buds?

>>1000370
You're welcome. I was asking for the mulch because I've seen people trying to grow things in pine bark only, it doesn't turn well

>>1000350
This guy (with two channels, one for farming stuff and one for growing exotic plants indoors) is the quintessential /hgm/ youtuber, I think:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6fjw63QRz8
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaLMpDLZtao

Lots of tips, lots of interesting plants, free seeds once a year, and just a nice atmosphere all around. 10/10

>>1000512
Yeah, it's the result of a germination test I did back in September, and kept one. Fruiting slowly, but I did have a February harvest
>>1000548
I don't think you have to do that with tomatoes like one does with peppers.
Also it's up to you if you want to remove the side shoots (suckers) of your tomatoes or not.
I always do as it's more manageable that way (I'm leading the plants up spirals), but if you only have a few on the balcony, you could also let multiple shoots grow

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>>1000590
I only have that one plant, and was hoping to make it into a bush like I am planning to do with my peppers, pic related is what it should look like fully grown.

>>1000595
>>1000590
>45 days, dwarf — A heavy yielder with clusters of fine flavored, red fruit that are about one half inch in diameter.
>When grown in pots, this variety only grows ten to twelve inches tall and fourteen inches across. It may grow a bit bigger when planted in the garden.
>Can be grown as a potted plant anytime of the year. Good for small gardens, patios, or apartment dwellers.

Wanna get infos on growing mint (most likely pepper mint) hydroponically indoors. All infos on internet with useful figures are about weed. Where should i look? (newbie here btw)

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hey out,
I am going to Liberia soon if i have saved up enough to start a /biz/

i want to g-get later in into farming, but as you now the soil in the tropical region is really bad...

you g-g ot some ways to make good soil ?

Does someone know a good and easy makeable soil ?

My idea would be

>Terra Preta

or skipping soil, doing

> Aquaponics
>mfw no electicity
> mfw solar panel is expensive

is out the right board for this question ?

>>1000641
>All infos on internet with useful figures are about weed

I hate that.

Mint is indestructible, will invade everything you own, and take over. UNLESS, you try growing and taking care of it then it dies.

Most of the wild peppermint in my area grows in sand/gravel bars in streams and rivers and usually have a bit of grass growing with it. It is pretty much a hydroponic environment in that respect. When I tried growing it near my pond it just died out every time. However, it loves the leaky washer line and rain gutter opening culvert in the yard. It starts to come up about a month before the last frost too.

This makes me think it would be perfect for hydroponics and probably won't need as much maintenance as some other plants.

>>1000643
Compost.

Learn how to make compost using all the organic wastes you can find. That includes manure. There are many ways to do it, but making compost is the simplest way. Depending on what you are growing, you'll need to amend it with a few things, notably sand for better drainage.

Until you have a nice amount of created soil, you can use "compost tea." Google how to make it, it is rather easy to do. Just make a batch and use that as fertilizer. You can also dig out single holes in the ground and fill them with good soil treating it like a container garden.

>>1000646
>Mint is indestructible, will invade everything you own, and take over. UNLESS, you try growing and taking care of it then it dies.


This is the most fucking true thing I've ever read.


>>1000649
Good advice right here. Buy this book
https://www.amazon.com/Let-Rot-Composting-Down-Earth/dp/1580170234/

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>>1000649
in the tropical region normal composting doesnt work ,because the progress is to fast, i need a soil wich is slower in composting it organics

>>1000646
Thanks for the infos, do you think I should try and try again until I find a good setup? or is it just wasting time?

>>1000652
The compost rate does not harm the compost quality. It can be slow or super fast. The result is the same. Normally, the faster the better due to less time constraints. My compost takes about a year due to the method I use, but I can also do it in a 1/3 of that time with extra heat and maintenance. I only use the longer method because I don't need to do anything and it is less work.

>>1000655
Try searching for watercress info.

>>1000658
thanks, will do

>>1000658
I want to use to soil for fields, before the plants are mature, the compost is used, its really hard to build a perma soil with compost because i can only get the think layer on top, after the first harvest the soil is used, i have to make new compost for a whol field, this would be really hard, i mean soil like Terra Preta, if sb knows a simmilair soil

>>1000660
first time it has rained for more then 20 minutes here in 3 months and i live in rainy ole England.

>>1000698
the rain is now problem, the problem is the soil cant stay fertile after one harvest, so i have to constantly produce enough compost for a large amount of fields, i hoped for a soil convertion thats permanent, i heard with mulch i could get a long lasting one if i replent
Fiver beans every year and cut them to mulch

>>1000660
Then make some charcoal, till it into your fields, add compost on top. You will always need to add the compost, but using the charcoal will help keep the organic materials locked up in your soil longer. That is the main thing with Terra Preta, but man made it is called "Terra Mulata." You will need a great amount of wood charcoal or biochar to do this over a large area.

>>1000721
yeah, i know, i hoped there would be an alternative soil method, since i have to import charcoal or i have to burn some parts of the leftovers if they cut down trees in the reinforrest, just afraid i have even to cut down trees to fullfill the amount :/

>>1000720
You will always need to add more nutrients to the soil because your crops are always removing it. Using crop rotation with Nitrogen-fixing plants such as some types of beans will add nitrogen back to the soil. That will help limit the need for adding more nutrients manually.

>>1000723
Remember the human feces (humanure) and urine are also a great source for fertilizer. For health reasons, you must compost the feces for a year before using it, but the urine can be used pretty quickly, if it is diluted. You can also add urine to your compost pile to help add more nitrogen to it.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=humanure
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=compost+urine

>>1000732
would this also work with pig manure ?

>>1000751
Yes, any manure source works. Each has its own traits and level of nutrients and methods of use. Google up "pig manure fertilizer" or something similar. Just remember that everything needs to be fully composted for health reasons.

>>1000753
Awesome guys, maybe in some years you eat some of mine pineapple grown on Pigmanure compost :)

>>1000758
I'm looking forward to it!

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>make new tool head
>pop it into a broken handle
>test

It works, but I need to source a handle for it.

>>999712
>Looks good, but those squash/zucchini plants are going to get massive.
not him, but mine are; what makes you say that?

why is everyone snipping (their peppers) ? New to this board but got a few plants

>>1000805
Because they will crowd all the other plants in that garden right out.

>>1000807
They are encouraging the plant to become bushier.

>>1000658
if it goes too fast, can't it get too hot and kill off some life/destroy some nutrients?

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>>1000811
thx m8

I suppose if you want them taller you just don't snip? mine tend to grow bushy on their own; iirc more compacted soil might be the cause of this

>>1000820
That isn't a problem.

6 chilli plug plants for £7.99 plus free delivery.
Good deal?

>>1000855
It really depends on what they look like and what variety. If there's a review section online, read the reviews.

>>1000861

No reviews but its a pretty popular online vendor.
And all the variety's are short and heavy cropping variety's.

>>1000884

who

>>1000811
>They are encouraging the plant to become bushier.

but wont that mean smaller peppers?
more peppers but smaller ones?
I thought that was a general rule of thumb when it comes to pruning.

Does it affect spiciness/flavor?

>>1001042
It is no fun when an entire limb of your plant snaps off in the wind.

>>1001064

lmao you growing bradford pears?

>>1001064
That would make sense in windy areas.

I'm mostly curious how it effects the peppers.
Not trying to say its stupid or smart, just curious

>>1000807
>>1000826
>>1001042
>>1001096

On bushier peppers I didn't notice change in fruits size to this day. I believe peppers' size is rather variety-specific, given the plant has enough to "eat" and enough light, but I may be wrong. No change in flavour or spiciness either.
If you want a tall plant, you can still cut the branches you don't want. However, a lack of branches doesn't promote a thick stem and your plant may be more fragile ( >>1001064 ). A topped pepper typically has thicker stem and branches, and a bushier plant holds its weight more effectively anyway (no need for a stake by example).

Topping (cutting the end of a branch above a pair of leaves) gives you a bushier plant with smaller inter-nodes (it restrains apical dominance and promotes back-growth).
Since flowers come at leaves-stem junction and branch-branch junction, you may have a higher density of flowers (more flowers for a given volume) than on a non-topped plant.
If you got any diseases, predators, bad luck, or just a change of mind, a bushier plant gives you a chance to cut what doesn't please you. A single stem doesn't offer this chance (but it's rather rare to have a single stem on peppers, as they tend to spontaneously branch a lot).

There's a possible downside of topping if you don't overwinter your peppers, because you slow down the growth and may not have enough time to lead every fruit to full maturation.

Also, here's a guide about topping and pruning with some pictures to compare the effects :
http://thehotpepper.com/topic/38705-a-simple-guide-to-topping-and-pruning/
There are some debates about whether it's better to top/prune or not, and when (you can find this on all gardening boards).
You can make up your mind and experiment yourself, peppers are great for that because they are very tough.

>>1000855
Post link or pictures.

>>1001079
You have no idea how big some peppers can become or how many some plants yield, dude.

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>still april
>still night frosts
And yet, one of my watermelons decided it was a good idea to start flowering.

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>I want a Carolina Reaper, but can not into germination, could you?

Apparently I'm now considered good with peppers....
The pepper Anons of /hgm/ should start a business together!

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>OC

>>1001303
I'm just really happy my peppers even germinated (light was the key!) at all since I never got them to germinate before. Now that I have that key element sorted I'll be starting tons of peppers indoors now for each season.

>>1001313
>Now that I have that key element sorted I'll be starting tons of peppers indoors now for each season.
Amen!

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Has anyone here made one of these yet? In this video that is.

>11mins 30sec in:
https://youtu.be/ovR-OZlul3w?t=691 [Embed]

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Sup everybody,

I am looking into getting into hydroponics on a small scale. A couple of strawberry plants, maybe peppers or such stuff.

I am also thinking of starting with the simple Kratky method.

are there any /out/-approved sources, youtube channels, books, guides, infopics, anything, etc.?

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Well that didn't take long at all.

Soil temps are in the low 60s, but these bales have really cooking.

The flies have found the decomposing blood meal and are swarming, unfortunately.

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>>1001397
Just the names in the OP link.

>>1001420
Flies/larva make poops, nothing to worry about.

>>1001426

Its unfortunate because the bales are right by the walkway into the house >>1000149

>>1001428
It will last 3 days max.

>>1001445
Stop being a faggot

>>1001313

im sure there's more to this story but your revelation of plants need light just makes me think you're some sort of robot trying to handle organic life for the first time

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I planted one of my tomatoes into the aquaponics three days ago. Now the leaves started to get spots.

Its still below 10°C at night, but the greenhouse heats up to about 20°C during the day. Water temperatures are around 10°C. The system is still very new and I dont want to screw it up... Any advice?

>>1001473
Don't reply to trolls.

>>1001497
Sun scaled. Put some shade cloth over them.

Those sections will turn brown eventually. New leaves will be okay.

>>1001496
No, it is the pepper seeds that need the light in order to germinate properly. Not all seeds need light for germination.

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>>1001497
>>1001501
Thanks for the quick response.
Here is a picture of my greenhouse.

>>1001508
Neat. What kind of venting do you have for it?

>>1001519
The bottom box has 5mm gaps and the roof has many cracks the wind can blow through :) I am planning to add automatic vent openers to lift the roof. I tried to copy this design and scale it up to later fit a single ibc chop system in it: http://www.gartenfrosch.com/shop/kombination-hochbeet-mit-fruehbeet/hochbeet-140-x-80-mit-fruehbeet-kombiniert

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>>1001526
Those are pretty neat. I want to build a small greenhouse out of a few glass patio doors to house 1 shelving unit for seedlings. The top would have a couple of those wax-filled automatic vent openers.

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>>1001532
Nice

Here it is before adding the greenhouse film

>>1001551
That does look nice.

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>decide to grow some peppers 4 weeks ago after learning they are great for bonsai practice
>order a bunch, plant 6 kinds, 3 of each, so 18 seeds in the ground, assuming I'll fuck up most
>also get a heatmat and 2 cfl bulbs
>first green shows after just 3 days, even all bhut jolokia sprouts in 7 days
>somehow manage to get 11 seedlings thriving
>mom gives me a tough chive plant that's been chilling in her garden for a few years already
>put a bunch of thyme seeds in a yoghurt cup with some soil, all hatch
>go buy some fertilizer, see a cute cherry tomato plant for 1€, buy it
>friend wants one too, go back to the shop today
>come home with basil plant and 3 kinds of strawberry
>never tried to properly grew anything in my life, how did I end up with 18 plants in a month??

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Update on the snipped peppers, 2 days since the snippening.

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>someone gifts me some old hive bodies
>spend all week going through wax moth-chewed frames
>set hive bodies in yard
>SUDDEN HIVE SPLIT OCCURS
>swarm picks the tallest stack, the oldest stack, the stack with the most chewed up wax moth frames

What a mess. lol At least there should be a new hive in operation as soon as I get this sorted.

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>>1001622
With sound: http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1493158029911.webm

>30 mins ago.

>>1001622

BrickBro you have all the projects

Where are you located anyway?

>>1001618
Lal, nice.
>Grow well, little pepper!

>>1001622
>>1001626
That is so cool, I love bees (and honey).

>>1001629
>BrickBro you have all the projects
>and none are ever completed

SOML in Zone 5.

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Tfw myco-heterotrophy is feeding off the nutrients the mycorrhiza was supplying my blueberry with


It's not a good feel but i think I over watered often

>>1001632

>projects
It's not about the itch, its about the scratch.

>zone 5
so like iowa?

>>1000348
are you fertilizing te flowers?

>>1001606
>never tried to properly grew anything in my life, how did I end up with 18 plants in a month??
Uh oh.

>>1001776
>>1001606

Last year i grew tomatoes and herbs.
This year im growing 20 different things.

Growing food is both therapeutic and addictive.

One more cold snap tonight and i am home free for the rest of the year.

Please dont be stunted tomatoes.

2c is stupid for this time of year.

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>>999623
>>999712
>>1000805
>>1000811
DFW garden bro here. This is a 1wk progress photo and what everything is. Need to top peppers, thin zucchini and watermelon. This is all a proof of concept project for me. My first error was buying and filling these beds with 100% compost. It was still warm but not hot and has since chilled. Started okra and beans by seed and started late. Okra is kinda scraggly so far. Zucchini and watermelon were started by seed a little earlier (like 1wk earlier). This area is shaded during the day with whatever light comes through the trees and at around 3 or 4PM the sun sets on the other side of the house and I get maybe 1-2hrs straight light. At my old home I had a garden in the ground out from the trees and every day they wilted at noon and came back to life when the sun was off of them, they looked really healthy too but never bore fruit. I don't know how people grow in the direct sun...

Oh and I forgot where I put some plants. The feedstore I go to had starters for $1 each but they didn't have individual tags. Pretty sure I bought two watermelon but nothing looks like it in the garden. Mixed up the tomatoes... They also have these 2 Tbsp scoops and seed jars for $1 a scoop. Next year I may do corn with my vine plants or an entire bed of corn by themselves.

>>1001888
>>1001888
Side note, the Lebanese Squash has a fuckton of flowers but I don't see any bulb type thing on the base for a would be squash if it were pollinated. The flowers just drop off after a few days. My neighbor across the fence has a flower garden so I get some good bee action.

>>1001888
Plants normally wilt when temps rise. They like it close to temps that we like it. When they are overly hot they wilt so that their leaves are not getting full size.

>>1001889
Male flowers always come out first for a while. Give it time. My yellow crook-neck summer squash is the same way. Tons and tons of male blooms, no females yet.

>>1000643
> soil in the tropical region is really bad

That may be the biggest generalization I've ever heard on this board.

Something's chewing up my carrot seedling leaves and I'm not sure what. I've only ever seen an actual insect on them once, it looked like a tiny caterpillar.
Do they just happen to always feed when I'm not around, or what?

>>1002008
Slugs come out at night.

>>1002010
I didn't even think about slugs.

I'll set out a beer trap, thanks anon.

>>1000185
>Danzig
I believe you mean Gdańsk.

Also to the person who keeps samefagging, if you want to act like an idiot at least do it properly and leave more than exactly one minute between every post.

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planted potatoes today pic related
how did i do? does anyone have experience with potatoes? Did i need to fertilize them? Local Farmer told me to but this is the first time anything is really planted there so im not sure, maybe you can give me some advice
Also plan on planting Brussels sprouts next to them.
This Thread got me started on peppers so i wanted to ask if i can grow them indoors?

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>>1002010

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>>1002116
>This Thread got me started on peppers so i wanted to ask if i can grow them indoors?
I'm new to this, but so far all info I found says that for proper indoor growing they need -a lot- of artificial light.

>>1002123
and rainy days

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>>1001622
>>1001626
>out in garden planting the luffa sponge plants
>go get camera for /hgm/ OC
>hear something odd in another section of the yard
>check it out
>BEE SWARM!

Oh lawd, I'm so tired. I chased the swarm through the yard, over the fence, swam the river, through the forest, to a field. Thankfully, they landed on a short boxleaf maple tree right at shoulder height. I carried a hive body all the way. I was able to sweep them into a bucket and slap a queen excluder on top. I waited to make sure they started swarming to the bucket so I knew I'd have the queen inside. I carted that off and the rest of the bees went into the hive body. I swam that river like 6 times today. It is a bit early, but it seems I have another hive!

>top left pic shows the swarming bees (dots in the sky) when i first heard them

>>1002126
mhh dont want to waste money on electricity
can i grow them outside in my climate(hessen, germany) and am i to late?

>>1002116
you did good, make sure to water them if it doesn't rain, at least once a week. I just put the hose down and water between the lines for 5 min tops for each side. Never water the leaves

>>1002159
when/do you raise the damms/lines?

>>1002162
oh and also thanks for the feedback >>1002159

Can I use a poison for removing grass between concrete blocks that's expired over a decade ago?

Why does poison even have expiration date?

>>1002151
Other Rhine side here, if going from seed, you should've started in Jan/Feb.
But you can still buy young plants at any Baumarkt of your choice and plant those, of course there's a lower chance they have rare/exotic varieties stocked

>>1002171
thanks

>>1002168
so you're saying it wont work?

>>1002162
>>1002163
samefag

Does anyone have a good online source for barrenwort??

>>1002116
What kinds do you want to grow?
>>1002126
>they need -a lot- of artificial light.
That or a really big (south facing) window or just a window and some artificial light.

Warmth is essential as well, for germination probably even more.

>>1002140
Congratulations!
You caught BEEHIVE.

Do you want to give BEEHIVE a nickname?
Yes
No

>>1002188
hmm dont know what my local store has got in stock would you recommend me something?

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>>1002165
It may be too old, but give it a try anyway. You can use lemon juice, vinegar, or boiling water to kill off stuff. If you use the boiling water, you'll need to use a lot all at once. With the high acid lemon juice and vinegar you can opt to spritz the leaves every so often to kill new stuff over time (less needed this way) or just soak the ground and kill it completely (more expensive).

>>1002181
US or UK?

https://www.plantdelights.com/collections/epimedium

>>1002140
Finally done for the evening. Catching the 3rd swarm cut into my planting today. I at least got all the luffa sponge plants in the ground. Those 2-liter soda bottles make great containers and the soil comes out easily so long as there are enough roots.

>>1002189
McBeth

>>1002192
I use cheap shop lights and reflector panels made from cardboard & aluminum foil. My overwintered pepper plants normally fruit at least once indoors.

>>1002194
mhh think i could build a little green house for 1 or 2 plants

>>1002151
First, ignore >>1002153

Secondly, there are at least two other Germans in this thread doing exactly this.
I do this pretty much in your neighbourhood (Thü). And they grow fine here

>Am I too late?
For starting from seeds? Pretty much yes. Unless you want to overwinter them indoors.
But for buying plants you are still on time. Like >>1002171 said, any Baumarkt has pepper plants buch not much variety and mostly hybrids (which are good beginner plants, they are usually designed for high yields)
But there are plenty of online shops that sell plants. (Google Chilidhop Werder, they are pretty good and not that expensive as well)
If you want to go with seeds, Ebay.

Also check out the last two /hgm/, plenty of information about pepper growing there already.

Pic related, pepper plants outside in Germany.

>>1002194
United States, California to be specific

>>1002199
>>1002199
English is my third language can you say this again but make more sense to Germans?
Thanks.

>>1002192
Peppers?
First rule i would say, if you like it, try it. if you want recommendations:
Tabasco, plenty of fruit, looks great, does well in a pot.
Cayenne, can't go wrong with Cayennes. Also check out the yellow, orange or purple variants, they don't have to be red.
Jalapenos. Easy to keep pickled.
Hungarian Hot Wax. See Tabasco and Jalapenos.
Anaheim. But they need HUGE pots.

I wouldn*t bet on the local store to have any though, but there are online stores. But the local one might offer a hybrid or two you might like, so it wont hurt to check them anyway.

>>1002197
Mini-Gewächshaus.
But it's optional, plastic wrap over a box or something works too. And if you start with plants you don't need the green house.

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>>1002199
>>1002208
Thanks for the kind reminder, buddy.

>>1002212
hmm sounds like a waste of time

>>1002215
is that Aji Pineapple? does it realy taste like pineapple?

>>1002199
>>1002203
Ignorier den Troll.

Zweitens, hier sind noch mindestens zwie weitere Deutsche im Thread die genau das tun was du vorhast.
Ich mach das so ziemlich in deiner Nachbarschaft (Thü).

>Bin ich zu spät?
Um mit Saatgut anzufangen? So ziemlich, ja. Es sei denn du holst sie im Winter rein.
Aber wenn du (stattdessen) Pflanzen kaufen willst, liegst du noch gut in der Zeit. Baumärkte haben Chilipflanzen (Oder Paprikas allgemein), aber nicht all zu viel Auswahl und meistens sind es Hybriden (Sind gut für Anfänger, da sie in der Regel gezüchtet wurden für gute Ernten (=schneller Erfolg))
Gibt aber genug (auch deutsche) Onlineshops für Chilis (Google Chilishop Werder, die sind recht gut und nicht allzu teuer)
Wenn du doch noch mit Saatgut anfangen willst schau auf Ebay.

Schau dir ausserdem die zwei vergangenen /hgm/ Threads an, da wurde die Chilizucht schon viel diskutiert und Tipps ausgetauscht.

>>1002215
Chilis in Deutschland. Draussen.

>>1002217

Im in the south of the UK and i can grow peppers outside.

>>1002222
No Aji Pineapple sorry, but got them this season so I may report back with results about them.

In this pic: (from top left to bottom right)
Trinidad Perfume / Chocolate Mini Snack Pepper / Peruvian Purple
Tabasco / Apache F1
Habanero El Remo / Hungarian Hot Wax / Yellow Cayenne
Toscana F1 / Naschzipfel

>>1002231
He asked 1 simple question and you shitpost and troll instead. Wow...

>>1002222
Yes :)

>>1002161
learn to read you mong

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>first tomato flowers are starting

Wooo. I have 23 tomato plants this year. I'm going to have sooo much canning to do.

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>>1002255
Ironically, this is exactly how I feel about it.

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>>1002192
I got mine from http://fataliiseeds.net/, there's a indication of how easy/hard to grow each one is.
If you like his fb page too you can ask him stuff, he's very helpful and answers quickly.

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>>1002264
>marbles

I always struggle with "this is cool!" and "must have high yield, low work load, & space efficient". One of these days, I'll have to get something like this pepper plant.

>>1002264
Indicators like these are nice, but rather subjective.
I had several "hard to grow" super hot chiles or wild chiles that grew like weeds, and "simple" variants that never even sprouted.
So I wouldn't get discouraged by them if something appeals to you.

what if i buy peppers in store and get the seeds out of them can i plant these?

>>1002275

Depends if they are organic variety's.

>>1002275
You can plant the seeds, but most of the times they are hybrids and they won't give the exact same variety of fruit that the one you harvested. Sometimes it looks like the original one, sometimes not at all.

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>>1002269
Hm, that's very true, now that I think about it. I read everywhere the superhots are a bitch to germinate and get going, but all 3 I planted sprouted within 8 days, and they are doing great. A decorative 'very easy to grow' on the other hand only 1 sprouted, it took 14 days, and it's still the smallest one I have.

>>1002268
I mainly started to make one or more into bonsai, since I don't have much space, so I just checked out the ornamentals and then filled up the order with a few extras that looked interesting. If I get a handful of peppers from a few of em I'm already very happy.
I really hope at least one of the 3 bhuts bears fruit though, I want to troll my 'I love spicy food' colleagues with it.

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>>1002295
>I want to troll my 'I love spicy food' colleagues with it.
Carolina Reapers. Currently world's hottest pepper.
Was the first one that sprouted for me this year, btw.

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>>1002297
I'm aware of that one, but I think even if my bhuts end up being 1/10 the strength they 'should' be, it'll still be way too much for us, heh. Atm Jalapeno is very spicy for me, I have a long way to go still.
Anyone else think many of these superhot peppers actually -look- hot and pissed off?

>>1002303
1/10th would still be in the Habanero range. Still really hot.
Don't worry, I maintain that beyond a certain point hotness in food is just a pissing contest. But hot peppers also have really great flavours.
And growing the ridiculous hot ones is still fun. Just to see if you "can".

>Anyone else think many of these superhot peppers actually -look- hot and pissed off?
They are mate. They are.

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>>1002313
I bet, 10 years or so ago I ordered those habanero chips, that was quite the experience. Also lol'd at my uncle who, after I warned him they are quite hot, grabbed a handful and stuffed em in his mouth.
And I agree on the pissing contest, tho I am very curious about the taste.
I have little experience with spicy foods, and I'm used to 'hot' being like tabasco, tangy and like needles, but a while back I had a surprise hot pepper in a bunch of sweetish ones (those green 'kebab' peppers), and that one had a whole different feel to it.
It still tasted good, and instead of the 'needles' feel (sortof like when you slept on your arm) it was an actual warmth spreading through my mouth.
That's part of the reason I picked the caramel bhut, it's described as being one of the best tasting superhots.

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>>1002275
They also need to be ripe. Many of the bell peppers are usually picked green. Sometimes you can get those to germinate, but it is better to get a red bell pepper instead. The same goes for jalapeno peppers. Seeds from canned peppers won't work.

>>1002297
>>1002303
I made some Trinidad Moruga Scorpion pepper rock candy for Halloween one year. It was like driving a nail through your tongue. It also had cinnamon flavor. People pretty much discombobulated when trying it.

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Noob here. Planted 3 peppers today. I added some baccto potting soil at the bottom. Dunno if it's good.

2 of them are serranos
And the last one on the top left is a chile de arbol.

Yeah I'm scrub at this so advice would be appreciated.

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Also if there's any super easy stuff to grow like green onions, I'd like to do that.

>>1002325
Welcome to the addiction. They may need to be spaced further apart. I can't tell the exact scale from that image, but serranos are 18 inches apart normally while chile de arbol is 18-24 inches apart.

>>1002327
Onion sets are being sold in most places in the states right now. You can try garlic, elephant garlic (type of garlic-like leek), leek, shallots, etc. Tomatoes are really easy to grow, from my experience.

>>1002323
>Many of the bell peppers are usually picked green
Isn't there a variety that stays green?

>>1002320
Capsaicin is only one of the capsaicinoids in the pepper, it's the main cause of the spicyness, but the other ones can make different peppers feel different when it comes to spicyness.

>>1002275
Works. Tried that last year with a hungarian one. But >>1002286 >>1002289 are right.

>>1002323
Try Chile Vodka. Just add a few pods to a bottle. Delicious but kicks like a horse.

>>1002329
I've never seen one. If you wait longer they eventually turn red. A lot of people think all jalapeno peppers are green too.

>>1002332
>Try Chile Vodka

I actually use jalapeno in my orange juice. I'll dice one up and put it in a gallon overnight then strain it out. No one seems to like it but me, so there's that.

>>1002325
Make little "hills" so they drain well. Peppers don't like to stay in water.
Also, can they get a little shade in that place?

>>1002335
I need to try that.
Btw you can juice certain pepper varieties, but no Jalapenos though. Mostly the small, hot ones.

>>1002328
Thanks for welcoming me man. Yeah i checked it and the serranos are about 18 in apart so that is all good but the serrano and the chile de arbol is only 12 inches apart so Ill reposition it.

Sounds good about the other plants. Ill try out some out.

>>1002338

Ok Ill probably make them on top of hills by removing some soil surrounding them.

There will probably will be a bit of shade from a nearby tree over part of the day.

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>>1002194
>luffa sponge

When do we stop being the same person?

>>1002348
You basically write up a list of foods you eat and like. Then cross reference what veggies/fruit they contain. Then you have a list from which you can start selecting what you want to grow. Just google like, "how to grow corn" or whatever.

>>1002361
Luffa sponge has a really long growing season. This is my 3rd try. The first try never got ripe before frost. The second try got ripe enough to make into sponges but the seeds were not properly mature when it frosted. I'm hoping I'll get sponges and seeds this time around.

>>1002382
Why grow luffa sponges? To sell?
They aren't edible, are they?

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>>1002389
Yes, to sell, trade, and use. They are only edible when immature and the fibrous sponge has not formed yet.

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Got 4 more transplants done and my others have finally recovered from transplant shock

>>1002501
Cocaine, but not too much of it. Make a tea of the coca leaves, if you can get them.

>>1002501
it doesnt seem like you want to be gardening

There was a light frost last night......
My tomatoes look ok, will they be ok? give it to me straight...........

>>1002607
How much time, how cold?

>>1002608
minus 1 for about 2 hours

>>1002609
>>1002608

Celsius btw

>>1002610 >>1002609

Well you can have some luck if the plant is big enough, or in a big pot. Often temperature locally varies so you may hope for +1°C in your exact location rather than -1°C as told by the weather channel...
You'll know how your plant dealt with it very soon anyway. If you see no significant damage in the next couple of days, it might be OK.

Can you grow two brassica oleracea varieties and collect seed without cross pollination by starting the second variety in the second year of the first variety, or would that not somehow work?

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>>1002629
First year should be free of cross pollination, but they will mix the second year.
So you get pure seeds for only one variety, imho.

But there are better ways to prevent this anyway. Pic related.

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A potato bucket that I neglected and left on the balcony for 3 months. This thing has survived -2 celcius and snow for several nights in a rowe. This plant doesn't give a fuck.

>>1000358
I'm surprised no one ever mentions One Yard Revolution, very comfy informative videos

>>1002654
That's because the walls and floor have tons of thermal mass that help a great deal. That's why espalier fruit trees do so well against walls. Like the Montreuil fruit walls.

>>1002607
>>1002609
>>1002613
You will know as soon as it warms up. The damage will be very apparent and show up the instant it melts. Frost is much different than simply having cold temps or even snow. It bursts the cell walls of the plant. To help prevent frost you can turn on a sprinkler that night until the sun hits the garden. I've had to do that in the past because I didn't have enough stuff to cover all the plants.

Beer trap didn't catch any slugs last night, and I saw another little caterpillar chewing a seedling. I'm thinking the problem might be caterpillars and I just happen to not see them.

What are the countermeasures for caterpillars?

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>pretty new to gardening
>experimenting with coffee grounds and supermarket veggie seeds
>sprout, but stay seedlings for weeks
>wasn't expecting much so consider it a success and plant them like regular
>explodes into this in just a few weeks

wew

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>>1001608
Day 4, looks promising.

>>999083
Does anyone have a recipe for dandelion greens? I gathered some a while back and they were really bitter.

>>1002741
Cut the bottom off a plastic cup and put the cup around the seedling. Sometimes you need to poke a couple holes in the side of the cup to run a bamboo skewer through to hold the cup in place. This acts as a wall to help prevent cutworms from ruining things. It helps against slugs too. Just make sure you don't inadvertently trap a pest inside the cup.

>>1002762
Congrats. Soil temperature was probably the thing holding them back. What are they?

>>1002800
Looks like they healed over well.

>>1002801
Only use leaves that are 4 inches long or less for the least bitter leaves. The older the leaves are the more bitter they will be. Sometimes you can grow them in really good soil for dandelions and have very young leaves that are 4 inches wide and 10 inches long that grow super fast. Those won't be all that bitter. If you are making a potherb recipe, you may want to change the water at least once when cooking the dandelion greens to reduce bitterness.

Remember that most wild greens are nothing like store greens. The store greens are selected for lack of flavor, wateriness, and sweetness. As a result of that they are far less bitter but also container far less nutrients and antioxidants. Wild greens are packed with flavor and nutrients. Dandelions tend to be for mid-ranged experienced, wild-green eaters. You may find that you want to only use dandelion greens as part of the greens in your recipes instead of only using them. Like let 3/4 of the greens be lamb's quarter and 1/4 be dandelion.

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Every single mulberry and grape cutting I put into the ground is doing very well. The only problem is with the grape cuttings. They are all sprouting flower bunches for making grapes. That means I have to spend time removing tons of flowers. I want them to focus on root-leaf production, not fruit right now.

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I've transplanted about 60 plants, out of pots and into permanent places in my garden today/yesterday. Only one seems to have trouble, but it was merely skipped when watering a few days ago. It should perk up this evening.

While the smooth-sided, 2-liter, soda bottles were great as planters, the ribbed-sided juice containers were terrible. I figured I'd need to cut them out and I was correct. However, the bottoms where also corrugated and wanted to hold onto the roots and soil. I had to cut the bottoms off like a lid before splitting the sides.

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>>1002839
The dandelions I've collected were wild greens. There's a lot of them growing in my park near my house. I've seen plants that look like lamb's quarter and I'll have a try of those.

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>>1002852
You'll probably need to work up to more bitter wild greens then. I found that the more I ate over time (every day for 2 weeks) my taste finally started changing and the bitterness was less bothersome. At one point I was able to add old chicory leaves to my salad. I don't recommend chicory, it is pretty hardcore and has over ten bitter chemicals in it.

>>1002858
I haven't seen any chicory growing. I'm shopping around for a book on foraging, I been seeing a lot of big brown mushrooms growing on trunks of fallen timber on my hikes at my park and I don't know if it's edible. Do you have a reccomendation on books?

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Can somebody redpill me on sweet potato?

>>1002867
>Do you have a reccomendation on books?

You need to find books with plants/fungi specific to your location or the location you will be going to.

>>1002868
Eating their tubers before they full cool off when steamed is the best method of maintaining their vitamins and antioxidant levels. Their tubers are an extremely nutritious food. Their leaves are also edible.

>>1002839
I've got a LOT of carrot seedlings, though.

Will diatomaceous earth mess up caterpillars? Could I just spread that on top of the ground around the seedlings?

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Air temp: 60*F
Bale temp: 120*F

Yes, kill all those little wheat seedlings.

>>1003024
I still have to worry about the other end of the scale
>4.4C/39.9F right now, and the night has just begun

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Planted these chillies a few weeks back, but in the last week or so their leaves have started going yellow. Anyone have any suggestions as to what might be the cause?

This is part of my first foray into growing anything, so apologies if I'm missing something obvious.

>>1003061
Can you show a side-view, and a pic of the soil?
Also, what is the soil composition? Did you drill holes in the bottom of the pot? How frequently and how much do you water?

>>1003003
It might work. Sand may work also.

>>1002839
those are 2 butternut squashes; being that the night day difference is relatively small i think it was the shallow container I had them in and really dense dirt/coffeegrounds

the resilience of certain plants is thrilling

>>1002801
harvest before they flower anon

>>1002867
Photos? Mycologist here, I could probably identify.

>>1003171
Thanks for tip.
>>1003193
No photos but I see bunches of mushrooms that reminds me of cauliflower and a couple that look like portobellos.

I found some leftover soil in the garden and dumped it on a patch of grass. Is it a bad idea to start growing vegetables in it like that? Do I need to remove the grass underneath or is the soil itself enough for growing? It's about 1-2 inches of soil there.

Are cannabis posts not allowed here or does nobody on this board cultivate flowers for medicine?

>>1003259
try 420chan where it isn't against the rules

>>1003244
If it's only 1-2 inches deep the grass is likely to grow through the extra soil to reach the sun.

It might be a better idea to break up the soil in that area and mix your leftover soil in with the ground soil. It'll hinder the grass and probably improve the soil quality.
Grass will still sprout, of course, but you can just pluck the survivors out of the ground as you see them.

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>>1003063
Honestly, I don't know about the soil composition, I've just been using bags of compost from local stores. Right now it's all soil, no stone or sand.
The pot has holes in the bottom and I definitely over-watered them for a while, so I'm watering them a little whenever the soil seems too dry.

I have replanted them into fresh soil recently, since their last pot developed a leel fungus problem.

>>1003271
>>1003244
Just put newspaper or cardboard on the grass then the soil on top and water it.

>>1003292
The yellow leaves are from overwatering. That soil has too much organic material which is holding water and not allowing it to drain properly. It'll be bone dry on top and soggy on the bottom. In fact, that looks like uncomposted compost for the most part. Add sand to give it drainage.

Hi anons
I know it's not /out/doors, but I have questions: how do i estimate the solution volume needed to grow plants hydroponically? I'm trying to build the smallest hydroponic culture so I can hang it on a wall. Will be for a few small plants only.

>>1003320
>The yellow leaves are from overwatering.
Thank you! I thought that might be it, but was worried it would be something far more serious.

>>1003259
It's not against the rules if it's legal in your state or country.

There is one white knight that frequents these threads that gets triggered

>>1003349
I don't think many people want to attract the DUDE WEED crowd to these threads.

>>1003259
>look for a heatlamp for peppers
> all search results are dudeweed sites
>go on craigslist to see what they got on farm+garden
>90% dudeweed
>hydroponics supplies
>dudeweed
why does everyone have to cater to dudeweed

>>1003349
Incorrect. Weed is still federally illegal in the USA. The feds can still come and raid your place and confiscate everything legally. It happens all the time in "legal" states. Thus, it is still against the rules of 4chan.

http://www.4chan.org/rules
>1. You will not upload, post, discuss, request, or link to anything that violates local or United States law.

>United States law.

Emphasis on this part.

>>1003349
Kek, that autist didn't take long to appear, probably the same /b/tard spamming this thread all the time with stupid responses

my zucchini plants are getting chewed up but i checked over the whole plant and theres nothing under the leaves nor have i seen anything by it. what gives

>>1003259
im growing cannabis as its legal in my state to have plants whats your question

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>>1003330
I'm also a beginning pepperite, and while googling I found a few posts about people that will only water their peppers if the leaves start drooping. Keep in mind that they also do that if it's really hot out, to protect themselves, so check for wilted leaves in the morning or evening when it's cool.
They seem to be able to take quite a lot of drought, at 7+ days of no water mine still looked great.
I'm growing them in a potting soil/perlite mix, with a layer of those clay pellets at the bottom of the pots.
This is the one that's currently the furthest ahead, he grew that root in just a few days after repotting. Might top him somewhere next week if he keeps doing great like that.

>>1003395
>if I tell you what I think you think maybe you'll tell me I'm right and validate my faggy drug based identity
you have so much social infrastructure everywhere else, why do you have to go out of your way to look for places to shit up

>>1003401
How do your topped ones do anyway?

Basic bitch question: What's the best way to get some nitrogen in your soil?

>>1003442
Blood meal.

>>1003442
Urine. No joke.

>>1003457
Fermented watered down urine. Don't just blast them with piss.

>>1003442
- Compost
- On long term, coffee ground is an easy one, 0.5kg/m2/year. It should be well mixed into the soil, otherwise it tends to make a crust on the surface. The nitrogen is slowly released as grounds decay.
- Planting mustard or fabaceae (beans, lens) between two harvests. They fix atmospheric nitrogen into them rather than using soil's nitrogen. When winter comes (or late winter if temperatures don't kill your plants), aerial parts are cut while the roots are let into the soil. You can compost the aerial parts, let them on the soil as mulch, or dig them after a few weeks into the surface of the soil.
Digging them to soon can lead to a light nitrogen hunger as soil's bacterias will consume some nitrogen to decompose the plants, though this hunger usually doesn't last long. Mulching is preferable at autumn or late spring, mulching at early spring may result in a nitrogen hunger from your plants, which are then in competition for nitrogen with bacterias decomposing mulch.

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>>1003457

>>1003532
>46-0-0

Actually urine is 11-1-2.5.

>>1003259
Go right ahead, i dont have any problem with growing hemp or what have you; just dont start shitting up the thread with "haha smoke weed 420 its natural and good man"

>>1003447
>>1003457
>>1003469
>>1003518
Thanks. Turns out I have access to free compost including coffee grounds. Will try that.

if nitrogen stimulates leaf growth and inhibits flowering, does it have an effect on other things? like height, roots, etc?

>>1003324
There's not exactly a minimum volume, just enough to keep the roots wet is fine. Mix the solution a gallon at a time as per the instructions of whatever nutrient you use and use that to top up as needed.

The smaller volume of water you use the more often you will have to top up.

>>1003390
What do you mean by "chewed up"?
Are you seeing rotty-looking holes in the vines? Or is it damage to the leaves or the fruit?

I have a question about coffee grounds:
I am growing stuff in containers cause I live in an apartment and I am using coffee grounds to fertilize the soil.
My idea was to get a lot of nitrogen to the ground and get a lot of leaves, especially from the herbs like mint, basil and rosemary.

I might have been too excited and used too much grounds, especially for the mint.

Can this turns out to have a bad effect on my plants?

>>1003856
Mint won't care, but the grounds will acidify the soil especially in a small container

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DFW TX bro here, I have had this bothering me for a while. Back when I was in highschool I had a garden I put it in sunny part of the yard, like all day sun. Obviously we get to 100+ many days in the summer, plants would wilt. Healthy looking, dropped flowers, would spruce up once the sun was off of them. I had maybe one or two tomatoes out of that but I did it wrong with the soil. Didn't have a single pepper from like 15 plants. THen I tried Okra in shade, it produced, peppers and tomatoes in shade, it produced but not that many. I was still fucking off with the soil.

Now at my own house, because of sprinkler placement which I didn't want to change, the heat issue, etc, I put my plants in a shaded area that gets western light from 3ish till the sun ducks behind the house probably at 7. Fence and neighbors house blocks the AM sun and two large trees in my small backyard shade it mid day. I thought I was doing fine because of said heat issue.


TLDR: for those in the south where it gets stupid hot, how do you even mess with gardening. Direct sun before noon is safe and then from noon to like 6 is way too hot. I have a better spot with more light in the yard that I can try next year. I will have to empty out my 3 raised beds and move them.... 3cuyd. It is also on a hill. I'm just really confused as to how people do it in hot weather and I know TX isn't the only triple digit state, it's all over the midwest. If you use shade cloth is that not the same thing as shade under a tree? Am I fucked?

>>1003856
>>1003856
I don't think so. They liberate nitrogen slowly, I sometimes put up to 1 handful of coffeegrounds for 5 of soil. The problem is when it forms a crust on surface which avoids water to get into the soil, but if you mix it well it doesn't happen.
Grounds are very slightly acidic but chances are you use tap water since you're in apartment, and most of time it is slightly basic. Anyway most of plants deal well with a pH between 6-7.

>>1003878
>>1003888
Yeah, I mainly use tap water. On a smaller scale, rain water since winter is over and I can put my plants on my small balcony.

I have
>mint
>rosemary
>basil
>strawberry
>raspberry
>parsley
>salad

Are there anything notorious for hating acidic soil?

>>1003898
>Are there anything notorious for hating acidic soil?
Not really, don't worry.

>>1003885
I'm in your same area.
My plants last year all seemed to do well enough, though it was my first time growing anything so I didn't have anything to compare it to.
In my case my garden is up against my house, so it only gets direct sun for the latter half of the day.

I don't know a whole lot about plant heat tolerance, but I do know that if you're having absolutely no luck, you could look into planting things that naturally grow in very hot areas, like edible cacti for example.

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>>1003440
>>1002800
Day 6

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>>1003951
And the rest of the lot.

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>>1003856
Too much nitrogen will "burn" the roots. It does this by reversing the flow of water/nutrients in the roots which dries them out.

Coffee grounds are NPK 2.1:0.3:0.3 and have a pH of 6.5 to 6.8. You'd need to use an absurd amount to cause root burn. You may also want to use coffee water itself. Dilute coffee 1/2 and 1/2 with water and use that to water your plants once in a while.

Acidity issues are normally not a problem with most vegetables and herbs. Only ones that need a high pH soil would have problems over time.

http://www.harvesttotable.com/2013/12/vegetable-crop-soil-ph-tolerances/

>>1003885
It gets up to 105F easy where I live and my garden is in full sun. The plants wilt when they need to in order to avoid the sun. The plants produce like mad. The sun isn't your problem.

The problem is your soil. Learn how to make loam and properly use a fertilizer source.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+test+your+soil
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+make+loamy+soil
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+make+compost
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+use+urine+in+the+garden

If you do feel that your vegetable varieties are not heat tolerant, you can almost always find a heat tolerant variety online. Okra is one of those plants that originally comes from really hot places.

>>1003951
>>1003952
Very nice. What variety was that snipped one with the dark coloring?

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>>1003955
Explosive Ember.
I'm probably gonna snip that bottom right numex twilight today, it's got a good root system.

>>1003958
>Explosive Ember

Sounds like an anime battle cry. Those thing have some amazingly dark foliage too.

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>>1003959
Yup. I was a bit worried at first because it's the only one that turned purple (besides the bolivian rainbow which sprouted way later). but it seems to be a good sign even, means they are getting enough light.

New thraed: >>1003962

>>1003963
>forgot to add the title
m8

>>1003969
>>1003963
Apologies, correct this time:
>>1003973

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>>1003955
Huh interesting, I guess now I know why the parsley I carefully started myself and sat in a pH 8-ish bed didn't do half as well as the one that volunteered in my tomato bed where there's decomposing mulch and compost, therefore a bit lower pH.
In its 2nd year now and I'm snipping it a lot, let's see how long till it bolts