Homegrowmen Thread #84

/Permaculture & Farming/ when?

>>983877

4chan is a manchild website with the likes of /pokemon/ and /mylittlepony/

Farming means you can keep something healthy and alive. Most people here can't keep themselves healthy and alive.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlMNXAV4M7M

Anyone else use/make one of these? I used one (pic of it) for about 3 years, but now just use my main garden. It worked really well, but with my amount of compost the center column fills up really fast so I had to toss 90% of my stuff on the compost. I'm thinking about setting it up again in a walkway of the garden. Though, I still need more and more soil.

>>983877
Past threads had everything in them from one time or another.

>>983877
When your big ag companies go tits-up and quit purchasing politicians and regulators who create laws and regulations that nobody but the biggest companies can afford to either follow, or afford to ignore.

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>>983846
The chop isn't so great and the deadwood is badly exposed. I definitely need to cut it back down to the callus so it can heal better.

>>983920
Looking good. Did you finally get more light on them? lol

>>983949
Run water through the soil for a long time to wash out extra fertilizer.

I'm growing a dawn redwood bonsai, and I just repotted it and cut the roots pretty far down, just before all of the buds broke.

it was doing well until I put time release 20-9-9 fertilizer on it, and I think I burned the roots. the foliage is now shriveled.

Should I disturb the roots and re-plant it or let the fertilizer run out? I don't want this tree to die

>>983952
its time release balls though, can i really get it all out?

>>983976
Oh....

Better just repot then.

Is there an /out/ or Homegrowman archive anywhere? You guys moved fast this last month.

>>983989
bookmark thread

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what do you juice with and how often?

do you buy fertilizers or recycle?

how much did your garden add up to totally?

>>983998
>what do you juice with and how often?

As in eating or...?

>do you buy fertilizers or recycle?

I compost and reuse wastes. I try not to buy items that have trash I can't reuse. There's no recycling program where I live.

>how much did your garden add up to totally?

Weight, money saved/expended, work hours...?

>>983994
Where what now?

>>983989
http://boards.4chan.org/out/archive

might try archive.moe but its a cyber-AIDS infested shithole thanks to the new owner. /out/ might be on there, I imagine it is considering it's so low traffic.

>>984032
>might try archive.moe but its a cyber-AIDS infested shithole thanks to the new owner

What happened? What changed? I haven't been there since it went down.

>>983998
before planting I mix in something high in nitrogen, blood meal or bat guano.Along with worm casting I collect myself. Then a bag of vermiculite to keep it from packing . That's about $30-40 to get it started.

Then when things are blooming I use a different guano high phosphorous, that's another $10-15.

I've spent probably $15 on seeds.

If I really tried I could probably keep a good amount of garden going for under $100. But I will probably buy some more berry bushes and bulbs for the fall. For a hobby that last all season and improving they yard, it doesn't seem too bad. Plus the food.

>>984005
yes

>>984018
google previous

>>984042
Someone got the domain but now it's filled with aggressive spammy pop-up ads for vapes and shit.

>>984052
and server crashes

>>984046
huh?

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>early fucking April
*sigh* Do I really already have to deal with this shit again? Seems like it's getting earlier every fucking time

>>984126
Mealybugs or fungus?

>>984133
Nah, just Bryonia dioica, extremely noxious weed here
It's the only Cucurbit native to the area, so it lives up to the memes

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Raddicho still growing strong..

>>984189
Any roots yet?

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Just sharing my progress. I'm excited that things are still going so well, we've had a lot of storms lately with high winds.

Hoping I thinned the radishes enough, but anything's better than the sad little things I harvested from pots last week (that I didn't thin at all).

I feel bad for shilling but I've been addicted to this guy's channel for the past year. He seems to have a great plot of land and setup. Has a lot of permaculture type videos. He runs a nursery

>>984242
didn't even link the channel sodumb https://www.youtube.com/user/EdibleAcres

I just bought an ounce of borage seeds and 1,000 lovage seeds. Is there anything I need to know about storing them after I open the bags? I figured putting them in a ziploc bag would work but I'm not sure if they'd go bunk or not.

>>984258
You can store them for a few years like that.

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>>984193
Nope. To tiny.

>>984246
Nice, I'll check it out.

Here's a channel I like too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCxYr32G6YY

>>984261
Awesome, thanks.

What are some tips, tricks, and lifehacks for Siam Queen basil?

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Thanks for the blueberry tips guys this (jubilee) one is really taking off!

But...

Got another blueberry, a dwarf one, and there are all these little green bugs under the leaves. I assume these are aphids, so I been spending time smushing them before I put it back outside.

It's a young plant and it's in a container so I figure if I handle it now it won't be a problem later.
But my question is about these weird silvery bugs that are about twice the size of an aphid and almost round, maybe a spider (to eat the aphids?), they are not eggs though I'm sure.
Do I kill them? Do I kill all the bugs?

>>984363
Could you take a picture of the said bugs?
For the aphids just hose them regularly, that'll do the trick

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>>984392
Sure! This is the best I can do. You can see those green aphids on the blurry leaf in back.

>>984397
Uhh but the bug I'm talking about is right there, the round one

>>984397
>>984400
The round one seems like a regular aphid "mother".
The tiny elongated silver thing at bottom right looks like a cicadella, though I can't say without any scale. It seems rather small compared to the aphid, it might be some dust. Does it jump when you try to touch it?

The flowers on my peace lily have gone from white to green? What is going on, is my plant doing drugs behind my back?

>>984415
no jumping, its some kind of egg or something. Very small and hard to find.

Ive been watering at the base so ill give the plants a nice spray tomorrow to help control this.

Also found a few tomato hornworm babies on my blueberries..

Thanks!

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Help me identify some weeds guys, my googlefu is failing me. I read the noxious weed list for my state but it didn't identify them.

I'm in 7b, 8a.

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>>984455
I hate these the most. (Bottom)

>>984453
You're welcome. I think watering at the base indeed is generally a good idea, that avoids a lot of mold problems on the leaves. Try to hose the aphids in the morning, that way water has time to dry out during the day and doesn't stay on the leaves.

Just to be clear : the idea is to get rid of the aphids with the pressure of the water. It won't work if you don't have something similar to a shower, a spray or a garden hose. (It is different than getting rid of thrips or spider mites, where this is the humidity which is necessary). If the infestation is heavy, switch water to soapy water. That's generally more than enough.

What are some thing to plant seeds in guys? I've tried with dirt but only one seed of three has come up, they could just need more time but the soiled feels pretty packed. Also any general indoor herb garden tips?

>>984456
Dandelion?

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>>984456

>>984460
That's what I thought. They keep popping up everywhere and growing ridiculously fast but I wasn't sure.

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>>984461
Any of these. I really wanna know the yellow flower with 5 pedals.

>>984459
If you're growing them indoors try this method:
>wet a paper towel to where it is fully wet but not dripping
>place seeds apart from each other
>put it in a ziploc bag
>keep it somewhere warm (I use a heating pad)

>>984467 >>984463
I think that's bulbous buttercup.
Dandelions are edible when young, with a little bitter taste

>>984467
Sorry for the low quality on this one, I took these on the fly a week or so ago and wasn't able to identify them.

>>984471
That sounds like a possibility. I'll uproot some tomorrow to see what the roots look like to see if it's bulbous.

I've heard dandelion coffee isn't bad.

>>984469
Thanks for the tips mate!

>>984476
No worries m8

>>984455
Don't know what the big one is, but the small ones to the centre-left could be Lamium, then maybe some Galium to the right
>>984456
Maybe chickweed on the top
>>984461
Looks like Geranium, a few more Lamium to the right (with the purple flowers)

Guys my moms backyard is totaly overun with black berry bushes/thorns .. how can i get rid of these and then turn the yard into a nice low maintenance garden to attract birds?

>>984445
Old flowers turn green. Most people cut them off at that point in order to keep only the white flowers.

>>984469
>>984476
Also make sure you check if the seeds need light to germinate. The depth you are supposed to plant the seed is normally the clue. 1/4" or less depth seeds normally need light to germinate. Like pepper seeds for instance.

>>984520
Blackberries already attract birds!

>>984471
mm

>>984524
Ok but i want it controlled not overgrown and SOMEWHAT aesthetically pleasing to observe lol and have room for other native plants and maybe a lil pond

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dude basilica

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>>984530
Then get a pair or leather work gloves and either a pair of long two handed pruners or a pruning stik (pic) and go at it. I also recommend using a pitchfork to move piles of cut briars around.

>>984197
Looking good. If the potatoes start to really take off, they will crowd the radishes a bit.

>>984531
Too bad I can't stand basil for some reason. It grows so easily.

>>984536
really?
will clone those until i have a field.

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>growing bean plants inside
>couple inches tall, look great, transplant them into garden bed outside
>within a day two of them have been decapitated by rats
>rats didn't even eat the top or the bottom, just fucking bit them through the middle and left them

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>>984557
That's probably cutworm, not rats, unless you saw rats do it. Cutworms are notorious bastards for doing that to seedlings. Like they literally just come along to chop down your seedlings then leave, nothing else. I always recommenced cutting the bottom of a plastic cup off and placing the sides of the cup around your seedlings. That will help protect against the cutworms until the plant can grow much larger.

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First peppers are sprouting!

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Whats the most efficient way to get the roots out of last years dirt?

I made a pretty good mix and I would like to save a bit this year, but the root network very solid despite being out all winter

Just bashing it against the wall is gonna take forever, hoping for a tip of some kind

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>>984598

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>>984598

Bashing it against whatever shouldn't take very long if the roots are dead. I recommend a bucket . You can use a tool to chop it up as well in a bucket, which is what I would do.

>>984598
Get one of these puppies. Literally a fucking god when mixing and breaking up soil.

>>984598
>>984600
I chuck it on the compost pile and let nature get rid of the roots and problem.

>>984620

This, if your compost is running well just toss it in there, the heat will kill it and turn it into tasty tasty dirt

>>984563
I'll do the cup thing anyway because why not, but I'm like 99% sure it's rats. I didn't see them do it THIS time, but it's the same kind of damage my bean plants took last year and I did see rats doing it then, on camera.

I did set a couple rat traps out so I'll be covered either way.

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>>984609
forgot img

>>984598
Reusing the dirt helps, but whatever nutrients was in there is going to be depleted. Don't forget to add some nutrients to the soil if you are going to reuse it.

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I got this from a 'free, take some' box in my neighborhood in Central Texas. What is it and how do I give it what it needs in life?

>>983880

>duuude
>tuuube

Would the water really filter down to the bottom plants? I'd expect the top plants to be either drenched, or bottom dry.

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Micropurples

>>984671
Looks like some sort of iris, lily, or daffodil.

>>984676
It is the other way around. The bottom is wet and the top is dry. It is best to keep that in mind when selecting the type of plants to plant in those zones.

>>984681
Grape flavored! :3

>>984517
Thank you.
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>>984685
>iris

I Googled some pictures and that looks pretty close. Thank you.

Today I bought some ghost pepper seeds, and I want to grow them, but the environment where I live is sh*t for this kind of thing (I'm in England mofos) --> anyone got any advice? Also I don't have a greenhouse :/

>>984765
You'd need grow lights and space inside for them.
The problem is that peppers are very susceptible to mold and growing them indoors dramatically increases the chances of that happening.

I'm not sure how feasible it is to grow them in England without a heated greenhouse.

>>984771
indoor fine

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bell peppers 6 weeks
rate

>>984794
Eh, it could work but peppers especially extremely hot varieties need hot hot heat amd humidity. If kept near a heat source and properly humidified they could thrive but mold is a constant threat, especially in a dwelling.

>>984765
http://www.fatalii.net/Growing_chile_peppers
I also just started, so far I have a few that are just starting to sprout, so I wonder how it'll go. I'm in Belgium, so similar climate as you. I do have one of them plastic greenhouses, so far I've read if you want to grow peppers fully indoors you will need a lot of extra light if you want a halfdecent harvest.
If you can put em outside during sunny days, they only need a little extra light, and standard TL (white light, not warm, color code: 865 is optimal) is plenty in that case, no need for special growlights.
I soaked mine in weak chamomile tea overnight, and have em in a potting soil/perlite mix on a heatmat at the moment.
(Weak tea = make a cup of tea, drink it, reuse the bag for a second cup, use that to soak the seeds in to weaken the hull, chamomile is best because it kills bacteria and spores too)

>>984802
no mold here,
put some lemon husk beside

>>984524
Neat thanks anon.

>>984802
I don't grow extremely hot peppers, though habaneros deal very fine with dry situations. For a single plant with its dedicated light that shouldn't be too much of a hassle, I think.

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so bell pepper colours.

i read the fruit is green at first and then turns green→yellow→orange→red.
does it change tint on the branch or does it happen after you harvest it?

any anon succesfully grown some?

>>984886
It normally changes on the branch, though there are some tricks to mature them if picked to soon

>>984885
Ghost peppers and habaneros are extremely hot but he said "seeds" not "I bought a plant". As long as it is hot enough (~80F) it shouldn't have any issues.

>>984886
No, most bell peppers go from green to final color fairly straightforward. It takes fucking forever, but my red peppers turn an orangey brown before becoming red. My yellow ones never become a different color if left on the plant.

>>984681
Do you eat your microgreens? What are those anyways? How do you offset seed price?

>>984890
Ha correct, didn't read properly, my bad

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I made some mushroom spawn from the leftovers in the plugs I bought. The shiitake ones started to mold but the oyster ones look good.

If I have this right once this is fully colonized I soak it in some cold water, roll it in vermiculite and then let the mushrooms grow. Does that sound right or am I skipping anything?

Can you just stick a cutting into the ground and it will grow? I have a grape vine (Carignan wine grapes) that is growing wild in my back yard in a weird area where I don't want to train and prune. I was thinking of just taking a cutting and sticking it in the ground and starting anew.

>>984910
It's possible. Cut it at an angle and scrape away some of the outer bark neat the cut. Then you need to keep it watered regularly because it has no roots.

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So basically I tried to knock this guy off my plant and he started running around and hiding like it's his fucking house or something, then I find him in one of my berries and he's tearing up aphids and eating them.

He's got these two pincers and moves like a tiny centapede.

What is the Latin name of this bad ass? I'm going to keep him and I'm curious what it is

>>985123
I also want to know, I've these cool dudes around Las Vegas

>>984771
>>984824
Cheers guys!

>>985123
these are lady-bug nymphs. ladybugs eat aphids at both stages of development

>>983952
Flush like crazy with fresh water then top dress with organic compost.

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>>983906
That's the ugliest fucking "bonzi tree" I've ever seen. Please put it out of it's misery.

>pic related

>>984044
>>983998

Gardening wouldn't cost anything if you made your own compost. You only should spend $ on the irrigation if the garden is large enough.

People tend to buy into the fancy expensive fertilizer meme when they're growing pot. Are you guys growing drugs?

My spring onions refuse to germinate.
Thats the last time i use seed tapes.

>>985186

I'm with you. I've been doing the paper towel thing since February and nothing. Broke down and bought some sets today.

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Mushroom grower reporting in. Anyone want tips/advice, or want to get into the hobby?
Also, Mycologist, AMA. (relating to mycorrhizae in vegetable gardening, growing mushrooms, etc; mycology has a huge relevance to all forms of horticulture and agriculture.)

Pic is of a contaminant fungus on homemade agar that ended up being beautiful.

>>984903
Is the spawn grain?
Being oysters, you are going to get a very low yield off of the vermiculite method. Your best bet is to use the spawn to inoculate newspapers, and grow them out in a plastic bag. That small amount of grain would also not be worthwhile unless you used it to create more mycelium. Your expected mushroom off of just that would be like 4cm long and wide.
>Boil newspaper (or bake it while moist)
>Wait to cool, drain well, and add your spawn as a layer in a newspaper sandwich inside a clean grocery bag
>Tie bag closed, wait for about three weeks
>Put a slash in the side and start misting daily
>Profit

>>985196
>Mycologist
Fucking neat, did you do bsci for that and it's a major? Tell us a bunch of interesting facts about mushrooms/fungi. Can you grow them inside? Are they difficult to cultivate? Best mushrooms for eating? What's the proper name for typical button mushrooms you can get in supermarkets, and would it be difficult to grow them? Can you transplant (or similar) mushrooms? I like questions.
>>985180
No need to be an asshole, I'm sure it will look fine once anon grows it out a bit.

>>985204
I am currently in the process of getting my bachelors, but have already gotten involved with research projects. Majoring in Mycology at OSU.

Well, there are fungi that have developed eyes (pigment, lenses, the whole bit), there are fungi that break down everything from petroleum, to plaster in houses, some have two completely separate forms to the point that they have different species names (sometimes three different taxonomic names for the genetically same organism). Just a few facts.

You can grow them inside, and that is what I am employed doing, growing a variety of species indoors. The difficulty scales depending on the species. They are definitely harder than plants, but at the same time, you can go from inoculation (equivalent of planting a seed) to harvest (pounds and pounds of mushrooms) in two to three weeks with some species. That blows plants out of the water.

Everyone has different preferences when it comes to mushrooms. There is so much variety once you get into growing/foraging for mushrooms. My personal favorites are Oyster mushrooms and Cauliflower mushrooms (pic related). However, storebought button mushrooms are pretty much one of the worst in terms of flavor and texture. They are outclassed by everything.

The proper name for button mushrooms is Agaricus bisporus, and a little known fact is that white buttons, crimini, and portobellos are all the same mushroom just at different stages in development. They are indeed hard to grow, you need special hot-composted horse manure, and a dedicated temp/humidity controlled facility. Many other species are way easier to grow, and they can be grown by anyone with only a small investment.

>>985196

Any books you'd recommend on the subject of mycorrhizae in vegetable gardening? Fun guys are foreign territory for me. I've always wanted to learn more about them, but never really knew where to start. Tying it in with a hobby I already have might be a good way to get my feet wet.

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>>985212
Yes, you can transplant, but that is not the right way to think of it. The mushroom is a tiny part of the whole organism, basically think of it like the mushroom is an apple, and something called mycelium is the tree. The worlds largest living organism is a mycelial web in eastern Oregon that spans 9 acres. It is thousands of years old, and weighs thousands of tons. However, the mushrooms it puts out are only about 4 inches tall. The mycelium is the actual organism, the part that does the eating, excreting, and growing. Mycelium is a web of threadlike cells, similar to roots. (but it plays the role of a stomach) When you "transplant" (we use the term clone) you move mycelium from one place to another, making sure to put it in a place where it isn't competing with mold/bacteria, and that it has plenty to eat (sawdust usually). The main difficulty is the mold/bacteria part. The things that mushrooms eat, molds love to eat too, and they will actively compete until the mycelium starves out.

In this picture of a button mushroom bed, the white mycelium has completely eaten up (colonized) the horse manure substrate. After it has colonized the substrate, it completes its lifecycle by putting out mushrooms, which we intercept and consume. The mushroom is the end point, when you are growing mushrooms, you are really caring for mycelium.

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>>985213
I don't have any book recommendations relating specifically to that, though a basic understanding of fungi will do the trick. The specifics of mycorrhizae are really only the concern of truffle growers and mycologists. For general knowledge required, and depending on your prior level of biology education (understanding of genetics and phylogeny) I would recommend "The Fungal Kingdom" as a very in depth book if you have the prior knowledge, and the book "Mycelium Running" as an easier to digest book.
Mycelium running especially well explains how mycelium behaves, how to manage it, and the role it plays in ecology and gardening.

Once you have a good idea of what mycelium actually is, and what a mycorrhizal relationship represents, the only part left is deciding which species you want to pair with your plants. Some fungi will produce you mushrooms, most will be invisible partners, and if you get really really good at it, you can achieve truffle or morel cultivation. (big bucks)

If you wanted to skip all the research, and triple the growth of your veggies (scientifically confirmed), learn to identify Pisolithus tinctorius, the dead mans foot. This fungus is literally a giant ball of spores, and if you crush it up and till it into your soil it is known for bonding with a huge variety of plants/shrubs/trees, whereas most mycorrhizal fungi are very specific about their hosts.

>>985212
>>985214
Nice one man, I've got a report to do so I doubt I'll be able to do a response until tomorrow, but thank you very much for the response and interesting facts, I definitely have more questions for you and will write them later. Lastly we have a discod with a dedicated homegrown channel, I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one that'd appreciate your presence if you were in it. Keep the interesting post coming!

>>985216
I might hop in after classes tomorrow

Anyone donating plant seeds?
-german camomile
-spearmint
- ?

>>985215

I'm rereading my college Bio textbook atm with the intent of understanding and actually applying some of the knowledge instead of just passing tests and forgetting everything the next morning. I'll put both of those books on the backlog, thanks.

Its already April and i already have way to much spearmint.

What can i even do with this much mint?

>>985225
>spearmint

Where you from?

Could send you a cutting.

>>985235
North Borneo

>>985186
>>985190
They may not be warm enough to germinate. They may also need some light.

>>985196
>Anyone want tips/advice, or want to get into the hobby?

Fucking Trichoderma!!!! >:O

That's what I get for being lazy I guess. I even have a pressure canner.

At what windspeed should I start protecting my veggie garden? It is super gusty outside right now, at least up to 40mph (no rain or anything though), so I tried to set up some temporary wind breaks. Is that being over-protective? When does the wind become damaging to them?

>>984886
Yellow and red are two possible endpoints though. Yellow won't turn red after some time.

>>985314
It really depends on the plant. Some years it absolutely flattens my corn and tears vines off supports. Some plants fare far better than others. Even with corn it depends on the cultivar. I use painted mountain now because it is shorter and does okay in strong wind.

I suggest watching your plants in the wind to see how far the bend when the wind blows hard during storms. "Greensnap" on corn usually happens around 80mph wind speed.

>>985215
>The Fungal Kingdom
Written by whom, please?

>>985196
>Is the spawn grain?
I used the colonized grain that came with my plugs and mixed that with sawdust and coffee grounds that I hopefully sterilized. I also have to sandwich baggies full and growing. I was planning to use the little bit in the jar to get more bigger bags going. I do have some left from the plugs to try the newspaper.

>>985331
I double-checked, and I had the name wrong. The book is "The Fifth Kingdom" by Bryce kendrick
>>985251
Trichoderma is one of my worst enemies. One of my research projects is actually creating a Trich resistant strain of Oyster mushroom.
>>985333
Good luck! Just keep in mind, that the more you dilute that grain spawn, the more nitrogen deficient your grow will get. (smalller mushrooms)

>>985365
>Trich resistant strain of Oyster mushroom.

[NSFW image of man masturbating to death removed]

Have you read,

"Trichoderma/pathogen interactions: measurement of antagonistic chemicals produced at the antagonist/pathogen interface using a tubular bioassay" by J.M. Cooney and D.R. Lauren (1998)

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>>985180
>idiotic namefag is the only person to be an abrasive asshole on homegrown in weeks
>filename

Shocking.

Any tips on making your own compost post bin? I'm just going to buy a bin from Walmart and fill it with leaves and fruit peels to start.

>>985421
I just use the by-product from my jenkem production to form the foundation for my compost bin then I add biodegradable food stuffs.

>>985421
I made mine in a barrel, put it in a frame so I can freely spin it.

I don't know much about composting but the green stuff I put in there is breaking down and it doesn't smell bad so it seems everything's going well.

>>985180
It's two trunks twisted and fused together, of course its going to be ugly, which isn't a negative trait for trident bonsai. Once I fix the chop scars and wired the branches, it's going to an impressive specimen. If it develops bad taper I'll just airlayer the tree in the center and have two nice thick trunks.

>>985421
My neighbor has a bin and it looks like a pain in the ass. Bears tip if over and spread it around. There's also little room to turn stuff over.

I used some old stumps to make a half circle at the base of a small hill and make a mound out of it. Bears poke around but they don't go crazy in it.

>>985196
>love gardening
>want to try something new
>want to grow some edible mushrooms
>talk about it with someone
>they think i want to produce drugs
>don't want to grow mushrooms anymore

I don't even have a question.

>>985528
I told my old neighbor I was going to try growing mushrooms this year. He was disappointed when I told him they were shiitake.

>>985421
I toss min out on bare ground and let nature sort things out. Then I plant pumpkins on it a year later.

>>985528
I have a small farm and lots of biomass. One time, when I was still working a "normal" job, while traveling, I mentioned to my coworker that I was going to turn a big empty tank into a methane digester. I was really enthused by it and was chattering away about high nitrogen fertilizer, methane, biomass, etc. It suddenly dawned on me that he was visibly shaking, eyes really wide, hands white knuckling the steering wheel, and sweating. I asked him, "Do you know what methane is?" His reply was, "I don't do drugs!"

>>985533
I get that a lot:

I'm growing mushrooms: isn't that illegal?
I'm growing vegetables: sure you are, can I have an ounce?
I'm growing flowers: opium comes from poppies right?
I have a methane digester in my backyard: my cousin was arrested for that, he was doing it in his bathtub.

Now I just keep my mouth shut and say I grow my own food.

>>985550
>I have a small farm and lots of biomass. One time, when I was still working a "normal" job, while traveling, I mentioned to my coworker that I was going to turn a big empty tank into a methane digester. I was really enthused by it and was chattering away about high nitrogen fertilizer, methane, biomass, etc. It suddenly dawned on me that he was visibly shaking, eyes really wide, hands white knuckling the steering wheel, and sweating. I asked him, "Do you know what methane is?" His reply was, "I don't do drugs!"
kek

>>985550
>Now I just keep my mouth shut and say I grow my own food.
You shouldn't even say that. Everyone working in lawn and garden is DEA

>>985550
Is your hair long? I keep mine high and tight and look like I'm involved in agriculture, so when I tell people that I grow a lot of different food things, they just accept it at face value. If you look kind of hippish, people are going to think "DUDE, WEED!" even though a lot of the hippish people I run into at nurseries really are into growing a lot of their own food.

Who planting pumpkins here?

>>985572
Prolly in about a month. Unless I start them in a cup soon.

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Anyone up for trying to identify this tree? I can try to take pictures of the mature part too, but they're pretty high up and would likely be less clear.

I'm in Zone 8a in north Texas.

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>>985603
another picture

>>985603
Looks like it could be a Siberian elm.

Idk tho

>>985564
It was 1950s flat top crew cut back then. There are no hippies in this area. Just rednecks.

>>985572
soon

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Just pulled a dead apple tree out of the ground,top was all dead,some of the roots hadn't turned completely brown on the inside.

Crown gall or something? Anything I can do about this or is everything I put in the ground just fucked since this crap can infect something like 600 different types of plants?

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I am going to be trying my hand at completing the undocumented life cycle of Sarcoscypha coccinea, the scarlet elf cup, later this week. It is an Ascomycete (one of two major groups of fungi) that undergoes genetic transformations in its lifecycle, and noone has pieced it together yet.

>>985380
I haven't, but I will now. Let me go and find the article, but there was one that was literally about Mycelium developing a resistance after being exposed just to the extracts of molds. IE: using mold tea as an immunization to keep it from being hit hard if it gets contaminated.

>>985528

You don't even know how often I get asked about that as a mycologist. There are so many other aspects to growing mushrooms, and fungi in general. People are often only concerned with what benefits them directly, usually being drugs, or the money that comes from them. Even if I tell someone I do not grow Psilocybes, they always give me this wink and nod kind of look like I just told them I was on the down-low.
Granted, there are a huge number of mycologists/mushroom cultivators that got into the practice after a magic mushroom grow pulled them in.
Renew your interest! There is hope!

>>985652
Burn it. Dig up about a 5-gallon bucket amount of soil from the hole the tree roots came from and dump a gallon of vinegar into the bucket. Leave it for a few days then dump it out somewhere the vinegar won't be a problem for plants. Was that a nursery tree? If yes then it may be from that and you may not have a large problem.

>>985659
>IE: using mold tea as an immunization to keep it from being hit hard if it gets contaminated.

Interesting. I have read about using hydrogen peroxide with the growing medium and having the fungi become resistant to it. Some people just hose down their cakes with it.

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Got all moved into the new house this week and found a good amount of cinder blocks behind the garage.

I went ahead and made a compost corral for when I bring over the compost pile from the other house.

I also will be taking soil samples to the local extension office to get the railroad tie raised beds tested for heavy metals. Going to risk it on the creosote, but that will degrade with time. Arsenic will not.

>>985670
It isn't so much a resistance thing, but more the fact that most fungi possess peroxidase enzymes, which rapidly turn cytotoxic H2O2 into inactive compounds. Spores of mold and mushroom alike will be destroyed, because it is only the mycelium that is resistant. This method allows you to basically wipe down the surface of contaminants at any given stage following spore germination. It will not help you if the mold is already established because the mold possesses peroxidase too.

The reason they have the peroxidase is pretty awesome. Many wood-lovers possess cellulase or ligninase enzymes to break down the wood they consume, but the way the enzymes work is unique, and indirect. The enzyme itself doesn't break down wood, but it serves to constantly pump out reactive oxygen-based compounds called free radicals (like peroxide), they generate huge amounts of them. These free radicals basically blow apart anything they come in contact with, the desired target being wood, but obviously the fungus is immersed in this whole shitshow, so it needs to defend itself. They possess peroxidase to dismantle their own peroxide species, so they don't blow themselves up. Then they come along and soak up all the sugary aftermath that was released from the cellulose.

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>>985679
>cinder blocks topped with red brick

I like your style.

>>985684
Neat reading.

My last project failed due to faulty micro-pore tape over the vent hole.

>>985694
That sucks, it is always terrible when you do everything right, only to have equipment failure.

>>985642
Huh, that's odd. Maybe those rednecks are also potheads. You wouldn't live around methbillies, would you?

I planted some Scarlet Red Runner beans from a climbing vine mix seed pack and I wanted to get more but after researching I've found that they don't generally grow as well in the heat where I live and the beans don't ripen right until it gets cooler. My question is what are some good bean varieties that love and thrive zone 7 Southern heat?

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WHAT IS THIS FUCKING PLANT

>>985845
A sin against nature.

>>985845
Looks like some sort of palm.

>>985845
A dracaena marginata with light issues?

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>>985845
That's a "Swiggity Squiggly Swooty Palm". Looks like it is coming for someone's booty.

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>>985212
>Well, there are fungi that have developed eyes (pigment, lenses, the whole bit)
desiretoknowmoreintensifies.exe
Mushrooms have always fascinated me, dunno why. I haven't really studied any though.
>>985659
>I am going to be trying my hand at completing the undocumented life cycle of Sarcoscypha coccinea
Good luck with that, sounds very interesting!

So far 2 of my peppers (both the same one, I planted 6 kinds, 3 of each) have properly sprouted. 2 others (also the same ones) have a stalk but still have the seed husk on it, and it seems 1 of the bhut jolokia seeds (which I expected to be the most difficult one) is also starting to produce a stalk.
Most others don't feel like showing any life yet.
These are the ones that are the furthest ahead, do they look good? I have no experience yet.

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>>986007
Current setup. I have another one of those lamps should I need more light, but this one is already pretty powerful (30W CFL), last night when I went to my room it looked as if the sun was shining through my window.

>>985365
>The book is "The Fifth Kingdom" by Bryce Kendrick
OK, thanks.

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Mealy bug sacrificial chamber.

>>985842
Either do a lot of googling, or go to your local nurseries and get whatever pole beans that they have and try them all, and save seed from whatever works. I grow scarlet runners in the desert, and they typically don't start producing until August/September, then they produce OK. They're not known for being the most productive bean, but I grow them because they attract hummers and they fix nitrogen. The green beans are big and good, and I've never tried the dry beans.

>>986008
Be careful with keeping them covered. That can cause damping off to happen.

>>986095
At what point should I uncover them? The cover keeps the soil at 28~31°C, if I take it off it drops to 22~25, the heatmat can't keep up.

>>986099
Peppers, especially the super hots, can be a PITA to germinate sometimes. The seed likes it hot, and the other seedlings might need it a tad bit drier. 22C is below the ideal germination temperature. 25 is in the low end of the range. If you want the others to germinate, keep it covered. If you want the seedlings to have the best chance, uncover it. Of course, you might keep it covered and not get damping off, and you might uncover it and have something else hit the seedlings. Sorry that there is no good answer, just pluses and minuses. I like to plant more than I intend on growing and either thin the plants, or be abusive and save seed from the survivors for this reason.

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>>986102
I think I have proper room for maybe 6 plants, I planted 18, so I can take some hits. I'm just a tad worried about the light should more then 6 grow properly, but I intend to make at least one into bonsai at the end of the year, so I'm less concerned about potential harvest n such.
I really hope I can have at least 1 Bolivian Rainbow tho, none of the 3 I planted seem to be growing yet.

>>986113
OK, you're growing the bhut jolokias, which, IIRC, take a long time to produce, and I don't know what your warm weather growing season is like. Keep that in mind when I say, in your situation, I'd keep it covered until more germinate, while being prepared to replant in case shit happens. FYI, when growing most peppers, if you're growing them in a grid instead of rows, 18" is a decent spacing.

>>986102
>>986113
The plastic is easily cut on the rim of each little "pot" using a box cutter, xacto knife, or regular knife. The seedling pots can then be removed and the seed pots can remain.

>>985845

My parents have the same thing. Same problem too, out grew the room and they live in New England, so its not going outside. Now it's hunched but still thriving

>>985932

what animal is that?

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>>986182
Not that anon, but I assume it's a bird of paradise, there's many kinds of em.

>>986129
Warm season is rather short, I'm gonna keep em all in pots and try to keep em small-ish.
If pic related survives the possible stronger winds that'll be where they will spend the summerdays.
The bhuts are the only superhot I'm growing, for a friend. The rest are more 'normal' types.
>explosive ember, caramel bhut, cap 1166, marbles, bolivian rainbow, numex twilight

>>986134
Good idea, thanks!

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Anyone here have experience growing cannabis clones outside? SoCal fag here and now that its legal would like to try my hand at it

>>986189

Zone 7 here. In the past, I've trimmed bottom branches off healthy plants before trellising them. After putting the cut limbs in rapid rooter plugs and trimming the excess foliage, they sat in the shade for a day or two getting watered. Within 3 weeks they were making pace with my main plant. Ended up getting about double my harvest from those two.

I don't know how clones are sold where you are, but I would expect them to be ready to throw in whatever medium you choose. Strongly recommend the rapid rooters plugs, maybe some root growth hormone as well. Then just keep them outside in partial shade, keep them wet. When you see roots on the outside of the plug, pot it in a good sized container. You don't have to over think nutrients your first go round. Cow shit (aged) is your friend.

>>986189
growing from clone or cutting clones off plants already outside?

>>985845
Thumbnail looks like spiders!

>>986199
growing from a clone

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>>986007
Meet Pilobolus, a dung-dwelling fungus that has a very odd life habit.
It's fruit bodies complete their existence by firing a clump of spores at insanely high speed towards their nearest light source. The goal in nature being to aim and fire around things like overhanging leaves or grass, and achieve the furthest trajectory possible. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8OAmcUnm4g

They eye thing is how they aim. In the video, you may notice orange spots at the base of the swelling, this is the pigment area capable of detecting light (equivalent to our cone/rod zone), the fluid filled vesicle not only acts to eventually propel the spores, but also to focus light exactly as a retina does towards this receiving area. The accuracy is insane too, a common experiment is to take pilobolus growing on horse dung and put it in a jar covered in black cloth. Poke one tiny hole in the lid and make it the only spot light can get through. After leaving it, you can pull the lid off and see that all the pilobolus have fired the spores in a tight cluster surrounding the one point of light.

>>986279
Assuming it's rooted and in dirt already. Put them somewhere shady for 5-7 days to adjust to outdoor light. Then plant them where you want them. Fertilize with something high in nitrogen every other week. Add to that something high in phosphorus when it starts to bud. Stop fertilizing 3 weeks before harvest.

>>986289
thank you kindly, got any links so I can do some in depth reading before I start I can only seem to find weed forums

>>986297
The Cannabis Grow Bible is a great gardening book. About 3/4 of the info can be used for any kind of gardening. You can get a pdf on any torrent site. It's cheap in bookstores.

>>986304
>>986297
>>986289
>>986279
>>986194
>>986199
>>986189
>>>/b/
420chan.org
GTFO

>>986284
That's way cool, thanks!

>>986317
fuck off soccer mom its home gardening it can be on this thread doesnt matter what the plant is

Anyone here has propagated by cutting Arbutus unedo (strawberry tree)?

On google i find different opinions on which season is better for cutting the branches. Spring or summer?

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Can anyone ID this weed? It is growing through the cracks of my cement patio and all through my garden. I can't seem to get rid of it. I'll suck you off if you can tell me what it is and/or how to deal with it

>>986360
Forgot to mention, I live in southwest Pennsylvania

>>986327
http://www.4chan.org/rules

1. You will not upload, post, discuss, request, or link to anything that violates local or United States law.

That includes federal law.

>>986372
>>986317
I was unaware how much faggotry is on /out/ these days

>>986360
"black scallop ajuga" maybe? Don't trust me tho, I just googled.

>>986379
That happens with every drug related post in homegrowmen threads since homegrowmen was on /ck/.

>>986381
I guess people aren't into making their own rope or herbal menstrual cramp remedies anymore.

>>986360
Reminds me of Rumex obtusifolius, but nutrient starved (red color). It also reminds me of an ornamental plant.

>>986387
The DEA and AFT sure aren't. They still raid in states where the state says it is legal.

>>986360
Pour boiling water or vinegar into the crack.

Are carnivorous plants allowed here?

>>986418
Of course. There used to be a few anons that had several. I had Dionaea and Drosera for a while.

>>985196
I want to get into the hobby to grow my own food, but I'm a poorfag and I live in the desert. Any advice on what to do to get started?

>>986428
>take seed
>put into soil that's not sand
>water it
>wait

>>986430
>use heat tolerant varieties
>put shade cloth over it when it is really hot

>>986428
Find out what growing zone you are in and what grows good there. Look into raised beds.

>>986430
>Mushrooms
>Seed
I was under the impression that most edible mushrooms require a good deal of moisture considering foraging isn't exactly good here.

>>986435
>>986428
Pearl Oyster Mushroom. Google up kits. It is the easiest to start.

>>986437
>Google up kits. It is the easiest to start.
Kits are shit. If he's serious he can just get a quality pressure cooker and start cloning whatever mushrooms he can get his hands on.

>>986433
Looks like zone 9b.

>>986437
>>986447
Will look into these, thank you.

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>>985663

I would dig up that dirt,but it was a potted and when pulling it out it was over other dirt(front garden) since I didn't want to spill dirt all over my driveway.

And yeah,nursery tree in potting soil.

I did thoroughly burn the entire tree though.

So,anything I can do now since apparently I just fucked my entire front yard?

>>986428
To first start out and establish a good fruiting area, buy a premade kit online. It is already colonized, and all you have to do is keep it moist and ventilated. Like >>986437 said, oyster mushroom varieties are some of the easiest to begin with. Growing indoors is the usual strategy, so your outside temperature shouldn't matter much as long as you have insulation. What is a likelier issue is low humidity. Get a meter, or just try it, and see if dryness is going to give you issues. Humidity in any fruiting area should be above 70% for good success. Up to the 90s is best though. There are many ways for you to dip your hands into the techniques by cloning your kit. You can potentially make that one kit multiply into hundreds of kits with almost no skill.

After you try it out, and see how awesome it is, you can buy a couple books or do online research to give yourself the basis of knowledge to do everything yourself instead of buying kits.

>>986430
>>986432
Alright, both of you don't know anything about growing mushrooms. There is no mushroom "seed".
And, you do not grow most species of mushroom outdoors. Especially not in a desert. You can do outdoor woodchip beds, or log grows, but you have to be in the right climate with proper seasonal changes, and enough rain.

>>986433
Raised beds aren't really a thing for mushrooms. Atleast, they aren't in a desert.

>>986435
Moisture is key mostly at the fruiting seasons. Incubation (vegetative growth) needs to happen for about 4-8 months, and that takes temperatures between 40 and 80ish. Most places that aren't coastal can cover those seasons. Outdoor mushroom growing isn't an option for you without high maintenance.

>>986447
Kits are great for beginners who don't have the facilities or cash to invest in creating their own spawn. It is way better to buy a kit of your species, and continually use that kit as inoculant. Easy to do, avoids contamination, and close to no investment.

>>986500
The anon said "grow my own food". That doesn't usually mean mushrooms, so he got a few gardening answers.

My swiss chard is growing slowly.
Will it pick up speed as the weather warms up?

>>986447
Kits are the best thing for a beginner. No need to waste funds on a pressure cooker when you end up not liking mushroom farming. Not only that, but some people don't even have access to the species they want to raise. Like how stores where I live don't sell shiitake or pearl oyster. Shiitake doesn't grow naturally here and pearl oyster is actually very rare for some reason. I've seen more chicken-of-the-woods than pearl oyster and I've only seen 3 flushes of chicken-of-the-woods in 50 years.

>>986477
Let nature take it's course. The natural ecosystem will more than likely keep it in check. It is the unnatural system that the nursery has which allowed it to become so rampant.

>>986500
>Alright, both of you don't know anything about growing mushrooms. There is no mushroom "seed".

Talking about vegetables. How could you not understand that? Also, mushrooms don't fruit. They flush and they are not vegetables. It is mycelium growth.

>>986643
Yes.

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>>983872
>tfw it is SNOWING right now

I knew this was going to happen. I hope the orchard isn't ruined. I don't have money or resources for tons of smudge pots.

>another year without mulberries

>>986695


Where do u live?

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My friend made me a height adjustable light fixture, all I need now is to whip up some kind of reflector and I'm set for a while.
A few more are sprouting too, currently on day 8 since I put em in the soil.

>>986433
>>986437

Raised beds are good in areas where you get tons of precipitation, of if you have some physical disability that prevents you from bending down. If you live in a low precipitation area, sunken beds are better. Look at your environment and figure out what works best for your situation. If your soil sucks, you don't need to haul good soil in, you can improve it yourself.

>>986717
Meant for:
>>986452

>>986697
A temperate rain forest. One of those micro-climates that gets nearly everything; usually all the bad parts.

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>>986709
>whip up some kind of reflector

Cardboard+wood glue/Elmer's glue (1 part glue 1 part water)+aluminum foil. Make this design to set over the planter and have holes in the ends to slide those light bulbs into. Have one side open up so you can open it to a window if you want to.

>>986733
I've thought of that, but the lamps get pretty hot, and after some research I found out aluminum foil is terrible for reflecting light.
I was gonna go with a piece of rain gutter, painted flat white.
>Keep in mind when using a reflective material that wrinkles are negative reflectivity and actually become absorbent.
>Mylar= 90-95%
>Flat White paint= 75-80%
>Gloss White paint= 70-75%
>Yellow paint= 65-70%
>Aluminium foil= 60-65%
Pot growers made a science out of it, they're a good source of information.

>>986735
>aluminum foil is terrible for reflecting light

Most people have that already and when used as a reflector for sunlight it helps to prevent hot spots that will burn the plant. As far as heat goes just put vents in the bottom and the top.

>>986643
Depends on what's warm for you. Here the chard grows best in the winter, but here "winter" means it rains sometimes. If you had snow on the ground, you'll see it get bigger soon.

>>986740
I'll confirm that chard grows well over the winter even in areas where it might get down to 10f or 15f. By well, I don't mean fast - you need a lot of sunlight for that, which is lacking in the winter. I've grown lettuce and spinach all throughout the winter too. My low for the past 12 months was 12.1f.

Fun fact: In most places, you can plant short day onions in the fall and have onions ready for harvest in the spring.

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I still need to put more water bottles into it and rig up venting. There's still a month left before I can plant outside without covering stuff. This looks like the last cold snap. Should only be frost a few nights now. Thus, all I really need are vents.

32° difference: 78F outside/110F inside; Full Sun
10° difference: 48F/58F; Dusk/Dark
6° difference: 36F/42F; Dawn, overcast, snowing
20° difference: 38F/58F; Noon, overcast, rain/sleet

>>986740

Night time temps are about 7 Celsius and in the day about 15 Celsius.

is that too cold for chard?.

>>986767
No. Chard isn't a super fast grower in the early portion of its life, but it might be worth doing a basic soil test.

>>986767
It gets -15F here and my chard's roots survive through the winter. It leafs out very early. Like when temps reach 32F or so.

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Guys, what is happening to my veggies?

>>986767
See:
>>986751
and
>>986777


Chard, which is a beet that forgot to form a bulb, is a very cold tolerant biennial. You plant it in the spring/summer/fall, and it will grow until it gets too cold/dark to grow, and then when it warms up again, it will grow (or regrow if it really got cold,) and then bolt and produce seed.

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>that tier 2 feel

>>986779
>>986781
We need context. Did you just move them outside? Did you direct sow them? What have you done with the plants, anon? Without knowing anything, I would guess that they were exposed to frost, or you moved them outside and didn't harden them off first, but those are only two possible explanations out of many.

>>986779
It's normal for that first set of leafs to fall off
>>986781
not sure about that

Some of my seedlings have dull looking leaves right now (no doubt from underwatering, i have a fear of overwatering)
Can they still be saved?

>>986803

They can usually bounce back.
Water em up.

>>986781
I see dirt that was splattered all over the leaves on the bottoms of those leaves. That can infect your plant with diseases. A handful of mulch or bit of plastic can prevent that.

>>986805
mm

>>986785
post tiers

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Holy fug! It is the light! The light makes the pepper seeds sprout super fast. This one has only been in the bag 4 days and it sprouted! I had a light about 6 inches over the bag 24/7 and temps are about 75F-80F.

4 days........

April 3rd 7:00PM to April 7th 4:00PM

3 days, 21 hours (93 hours).

>Germination: 14 to 28

Ha!

>>986872
My first ones also germinated in 4 days, and just now (another 4 days later) most of the rest seems to be catching up, I just soaked em all in weak chamomile tea and put em in a potting soil/perlite mix. I did use a heatmat & extra light.
Which ones are you growing?

>>986872
It was probably the added heat from the light. Peppers need warm soil.

Anybody every try blatticomposting? Like vermicomposting but with ivoryhead cockroaches instead of worms. Less picky about food and conditions, able to eat more food, hardier, only downside is they don't make much frass/worm castings equivalent.
I'd like to give it a shot since my dumbfuck roomie killed our worm bins by neglect after offering to take care of them, but don't know much about it

>>986875
>>986874
I normally germinate in an oven at 80-100F, so this was cooler, but little to no light. I didn't pre-soak these. They normally take weeks.

Gypsy hybrid peppers.

>>986890
Accidentally, spilling the mealworm, BSF, or worm bin seems far less of a disaster than accidentally spilling the cockroach bin.

>>986890
lol africa

>>986890
farm when?

>>986709
Please excuse my ignorance, but what is that white stuff in your soil?

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>mfw all dat good weather ahead this month

I have a feeling this is going to be a great year for vegetable farming.

>>986924
Looks like vermiculite/pearlite.

>>986890
>only downside is they don't make much frass/worm castings equivalent.


No, the only downside is that they're goddamned cockroaches. I'm all for being one with nature and all, but seriously, fuck cockroaches in all forms.

Are there places that will buy chicken and eggs from you? How much per bird or dozen eggs? Bonus points if you're from Ontario.

>>986988
There is a little back yard farm down the road from me. They have a little shack and a couple days each week they put out 4/5 dozen for $4 each and a jar for the money.

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>>983872
Just got a new apartment, looking to grow some of my own food on the balcony. What kind of plants are best for that kind of thing, with small space to grow in? Has anyone done this before? Anything I should know beforehand? General advice?

>>986994

How big is the balcony? Are your downstairs neighbors gonna bitch if their balcony gets wet when you water your plants?

>>986999
It's a 6 foot by 10 foot space, and as for the downstairs neighbors, the balconies are kind of staggered from floor to floor, so unless there's a real strong wind water falling from mine wouldn't fall on anyone else's. Still, you brought up an issue I hadn't even thought of: drainage. I'll have to look into getting some sheet plastic or a tarp or something.

>>986994
Also, as an addendum to this, any good reading recommendations would be appreciated (especially if you have the PDFs).

>>987002

Provided that it gets enough sun, go with a couple 5 gallon buckets for tomatoes, and a few rectangular containers for lettuce/spinach and herbs.

Cherry tomatoes will give you the most bang for your buck, and you can eat them like candy off the vine.

Some smaller lettuce mixes will give you salads well into summer.

Herbs are easy to grow and are nice to have. Basil grows readily and goes well with any tomatoes you grow. Rosemary, sage, thyme all go good with roast meats and stews. Cilantro can be nice if you make a lot of guacamole, etc.

You could even try getting some lattice and grow some sugar snap peas. Depending on where you are in the country, you better get them in soon.

You might be able to do some peppers in 5 gallon buckets, too.

Things to avoid: potatoes, squash including zucchini, eggplant, onions, garlic, ginger.

The best way to figure out what you should grow is to take your grocery list to the hardware store/nursery/greenhouse. See what they are selling and what overlaps with your grocery list. You make a lot of salads? Lettuce, spinach, kale. Cook a lot of roasts? Plant plenty of herbs. Pizza or pasta? Tomatoes, basil and oregano.

>>986988
My eggs cost $2usd/dozen (store bought eggs are $0.75usd/dozen!)

>>986994
Google "wall garden".

>>987010
>Cherry tomatoes
Yup, already on my list, loved those things as a kid.

>smaller lettuce
What kinds of lettuce keep putting out throughout the year? Because I like salads, but I'd like to be able to keep picking throughout the summer and fall rather than just harvesting once and getting a week's worth of salads out of it.

>Herbs
Plenty of experience with them, used to grow them at home.

>You could even try getting some lattice and grow some sugar snap peas.
I was thinking about this earlier, getting together a rig for some peas and string beans.

>no potatoes, squash, zucchini or eggplant
Why is that? All of those things are delicious, and I've grown potatoes of of planters before. Onions too, those things are low maintainance as fuck.

>grocery list
A lot of what I eat is just chopping up veggies and meat together, then frying them in herbs and oil, so I tend towards things like tomatoes, eggplant, tomatoes, zucchini, etc. You warned me away from a few of those, and I'm curious why.

>>987028

>no potatoes, squash, zucchini or eggplant

In my experience they take up too much space. A balcony garden should be something you can just go out, pick a couple things to add to dinner. Digging bubs or potatoes out is going to be a dirty mess. Squash and eggplant take up more space than I feel they're worth for a balcony.


But hey, I'm happy to be proven wrong. Grow what you think you'll enjoy and be sure to post progress pics here throughout the season!

>>987031
I think most of that is fair except potatoes, because you're only harvesting them once, so yeah you'll get dirty one time, but you're getting a lot of food in exchange for just a few seconds of time each day. I think the best move would be to just put the real space consuming ones lower down on the list of priorities, then just work with what I have room for.

I've heard a lot of hype about how much better free range eggs taste than your typical store eggs. That just a meme or how much truth is there to it?

>>987035
They do taste different, but that is sometimes hard to distinguish depending on what they are eating, their breed, and what you are eating. If you eat a lot of store bought processed foods you may not notice much difference. It can be the same if you are a smoker, are taking prescription drugs, have a disease, or are "aging". You should also do a taste test side by side. Due to these variables, there ends up being quite a lot of debate. However, most eggs from free range chickens will have more quantities of vitamins and minerals in them.

The largest difference in flavor will be across various breeds of poultry.

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>>986372
>>986317
You might need to check your soil, your grapes are sour as fuck.

>>987043
>The largest difference in flavor will be across various breeds of poultry.
Do you know what kinds of chickens have the best eggs for just frying up for breakfasts and lunches? Eggs that are just really tasty and filling on their own, preferably with good nutritional content?

>>987048
Barnevelders

Anyone know if okra from the supermarket will eventually ripen the seed? The ones I have here are all soft and white inside, not sure if worth planting

Do certain plant species need hardening before being put outside while others don't, or does it depend on the plant's age when put outside, or what?

I put some bean sprouts outside with no hardening and they seem to be doing just fine, but when I did the same thing with some garlic sprouts they went limp after one day.

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How do y'all deal with squirrels?

I've got a large raised bed and a lot of container plants, along with a fully matured black walnut tree. The squirrels completely cleared out the walnut tree last year, I didn't get a single nut.

They seem to pick and choose from my veggies, I've tried fencing them in without much luck. I could build an entire cage to go over the beds, but I'm not sure what I can do about the containers.

I live in the city, so shooting them is out of the picture.

How to save seeds from water lilies? Does it has seed pods like lotuses?

>>987185
get s dawg
or sonic whistle

>>987185
mix peanut butter with datura or potato stems

>>987185
sonic subwoofer*

>>985652
you have nematodes my dear friend. Please check this out for a fix.

http://www.abc.net.au/gardening/stories/s2534493.htm

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>check weather last night
>forecast is Low 39F cloudy for the night; 73F cloudy for the day today
>wake up to 26F, completely clear skies, and killer frost

T-thanks weather.com

>good bye orchard
>good bye peaches
>good bye mulberries
>good bye apples
>good bye early purple potato sprouts

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>>987223

>>987223
>>987224
just fuck my shit up senpai

>>986781
Mites in the second pic. I think.
Plants in conditions that aren't ideal are vulnerable.

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starting to dig this out stuff.

>>987224
If it's any consolation, that's a really nice picture.
You should post it on /wg/.

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>>987223
The leaves are shot on some of the sprouts, but the stems seem fine and they should recover. Here's the same plant after thawing.

>>987280
Thanks.

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>>987285
>>987223
Also, the orchard seems to be safe this time. The peach and plum flowers didn't get frost-zapped. They were covered and a few of them had their petal tips zapped.

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>>987288
And, the bees are out in full force. Though, there's only 1 hive now. Hopefully, it will divide this year.

>>987289
thats what i need in my life a bee hive!

>>987185
Do rat traps not work on squirrels?

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>>987223
I too have to hope the cold wave announced for next week won't get any worse
>up to 25°C in late March, everything sprouts and grows
>3°C last morning - at 2m height, might've dipped below zero near ground in some corners
>14-15°C highs and 3-4°C lows announced for the whole next week

Not too worried about the tomatoes that are already out, I've plenty of indoor backup if things go wrong. Mostly fearing for the exotic stuff such as vines, figs and pomegranates that are already shooting

>>987223
You may or may not be fucked on the fruit trees. Sometimes 26f kills them all, and sometimes it kills only some.

As for the potatoes, I've had potatoes that I failed to harvest the year before sprout, get knocked back by frost, then come back. Unless you planted from true potato seed, which is highly unlikely, you're probably fine.

>>987290

Dude ive been watching videos about it all day. Keith Delaplane has a bunch of old shit from the 90's which is fantastic because theres not HEEEEYYY YUUUUTUUUUBBBE bullshit.

I've contacted my local apiary group and am going to a 101 course there next week. I'm curious to see what a hive is like in person when its cracked open.

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>>987337
The potatoes will be fine. Those purple ones are pretty cold hardy. I have a roll of plastic ready to put over them for next time.

>>987325
You can use bedsheets, plastic bags, just about anything to cover plants from frost.

>>987403
you can only use plastic if it isn't touching the plant

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I cut up and buried the leftover vines from my sweet potatoes last year, intending them to die and decompose over the winter.
They ended up surviving and sprouting once the temperature came back up. Which is fine, except the mound seems pretty thick with sprouts and I don't even know how many individual plants there are.

Do you guys think I should make an effort to thin them out, or will they be fine left as-is? There's plenty of room for them to spread into.

>>987404
I don't think it's good for anything to touch the plant, I used bedsheets to protect my tomato plants from a freeze last winter and while it did protect the plant itself, all the leaves that were touching the sheet died.

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Wew iris bloom

>>987404
>>987437
You always need a frame of some type. If the material touches the plant, it can still freeze it in that spot of contact. Some materials that are thicker will prevent this.

>>987436
You can eat the leaves and shoots as a vegetable. If you thin them out, they won't go to waste. Google up recipes. If their roots and tubers are going to be crowded then thin them a bit.

>>987477
That's the thing, I'm not sure how crowded the roots are. Some of the sprouts may even share a circulatory system, it wouldn't surprise me for a single buried vine to have sent up two or three sprouts.

>>987437
>>987473
Nothing should touch, but plastic is even more risky because it can get colder than air temperature.

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Can anybody tell me what this plant is? My friend just bought a cottage and this stuff is growing all over the property, he wants to know if it has any uses.

>>987578
What part of the world?

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Yeah boys! We poultry now!

Getting the coop built over the next few weeks, cannot wait for that first delicious egg.

>>987288

where are you from, fellow orchard-fag?

>>987636
aww lil mcnuggets

R8 my cuckpartment garden

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>>987641
Forgot pic fuck

>>986074

I like your style.

May the purge go well.

>>987636

Going to eat the meat or just eggs?

>>987185
>I live in the city, so shooting them is out of the picture.
Get an air rifle if possible and set up a bait trap on a tree if by city you mean you live in a house within city limits. I have had the same issues with squirrels where I live and I can't use a .22 but I can use a CO2 airgun. It'll kill them just the same.

You just have to set a feeder and put bait on it (peanut butter, nuts, seeds, etc.) and wait for them.

>>986360
its japanese knotweed
the roots can go 20ft down
yourre fucked

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>>987643

Dont use coffee cans as pots. They rust and its impossible to get the plants out because of the can lip.

>>987613
Ireland