Fishing & Tackle Thread

>>964374
I'd swell up too if I was in her hands.

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>>964374
Critique my hard bait box

>>964378
Probably to the same general shape I would imagine. Little Texan chode.

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>>964378
>dem zingers

>>964382
I see you like the Shadow Raps. I own one or two but haven't given em much of a chance. Red-Eye Shad is solid and I see dat X-Rap.

If you want a good lipless rattler that is a little smaller than the Red-Eye, look into the Rapala Rippin Raps I think they're called.

>>964387
I like the little Rapala classic ones or whatever and I bought those cheap bass pro xps lures today to give them a try since I have never used them before.

The shadow raps are awesome when the jerkbait bite is on. Better than x raps in my opinion when you dead stick them in the water between "jerks" or rod twitches. X raps are better for warmer water imo.

>>964389
The couple cheap Bass Pro XPS cranks I have owned weren't terrible, especially considering they are like $3 compared to a $10 Rapala or Yo-Zuri.

You should get a Skitter Pop for spring. Those are a blast. All about the Brown Frog.

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>>964374

Daily Reminder that all Non-Shimano users are gear-niggers

>>964393
Daily reminder that Shimano is good but so are Daiwa and Abu Garcia and Pflueger but the best brand is BOWFIN BRAND BOWFIN GEAR BY HASBRO

>>964392
I got the bass pro ones because they were on sale and the lipless cranks looked like they ripped off the profile of the yo zuri lipless lures and just changed the head so I figured why not.

The hooks definitely seem like they are garbage but if they get bit a lot I will upgrade them.

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>>964402

>So is Abu and pfleuger

Name me one Pflueger or Abu can can line up with even mid-level Shimanos

you can't.

>>964409
Revo line and supreme line. Cry more.

The president XT with the sealed drag is a good and proven design.

nth for tomorrow will be my fistr time actually pitching jigs ever
other then a cast or two

>>964412
Just commit to them and fan cast from shallow to deep if you don't get bit flipping to cover and points. Don't be surprised if you get bit before they hit the bottom.

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>>964410

>Revo and Supreme holding up to a Shimano Stradic

wew lad

I've owned both a Revo and Supreme. Complete shit. They rely on the whole "10+ BALL BEARINGS XDDD" in order to justify their selling point. And even with all those extra ball bearings, they still feel horrible.

Abu and Pfleuger have been selling to the babby's first combo demographic since their inception and its why they suck. Entry level gear for entry level fishermen.

>>964410
Not that anon but the Revo line is unironically shit.

If you actually think they are good it proves how clueless you are

>>964416
theres very littl structure in the lake im fishing other then weeds ( that probably arent grown up yet

>>964418

there is no reasoning with gear niggers

They've never felt the joys of mid/upper level Shimano

>>964417
Okay

>>964424
Then fan cast them and pop them along the bottom varying distances. There is structure you just can't see it. Cast them out along a point and work them back.

>>964441

>this meme again
>all your evidence was last time were some aussie twinks who compared a BOUGHT USED 17 year old Stella vs. a new Saltiga

Really cherrypicking there laddy

>>964448
K

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>>964409
abu revo toro beast.
you lose.

>>964382
Are the shadow raps any good? I haven't used mine yet but I gotta know

>>964459

>spending $400 on an Abu Toro and not on a Calcutta Conquest 300

waste of money. And even if you wanted to go with something the same Size but low Profile, you can always get a Shimano BayGame and it would do the same thing for 1/2 the price.

>>964462

The Shadow raps are shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY7gQmo01QI

Just stick with Yo-Zuri Crystal Minnows.

>>964393
I keep my money and buy cheaper reels. Am I a gear nigger or a gear Jew?

>>964467

Gear nigger

>>964468
Fuck.

>>964431
My STX is every bit as good as my Citica and only slightly worse than the Chronarch. Cry more pls.

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Got my pb bowfin today

>>964386
Did you have fun picturing what my dick looks like?

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>>964464
>low pro abu
>toro beast
>Calcutta Conquest 300
>round reel
>non same same
>mfw
baygame? why not a aldebaran or a metanium?
I thought you were a shimano shill? Upsell the products bruh.

>>964475
That is some strange looking grass.

>>964465
Damn. Haven't had that happen to mine yet but I'm concerned seeing that. Hopefully they don't explode lol. Pretty shit. Wonder if an epoxy coat would help them out

>>964480

>Toro's are 300 size reels for larger game
>Conquest 300's are reels for larger game
>BayGames are 300 size for larger game

same gear ratio as well probably.

your point?

Aldebaran and Metaniums are not as big, therefore not in the same category.

You can always go with an older Curado 300 as well and it would arguablly perform the same as the Revo Toro.

>>964483

I bought two.

One broke on a rock while fishing riprap and the other i broke doing the test with just two fingers.

Absolute trash, not to mention their x-raps melt on hot summer days.

I'll stick to their Skitter Pops and thats it.

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>>964475
I got my PB Mayan Bowfin on Saturday when I stopped by the lake for 20min before going to get skunked on the salt. He hit one of those snagless Sebile 66mm baits and that's def a LMB size bait.

>>964493
>LMB
Ah the elusive Large Mouth Bowfin

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>>964382
Rate my other box for spinner baits and chatter memes

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>>964484
low profile reels? not spool capacities..
Aldebaran and Metaniums are low profile reels.

also the baygame only pull 11 lbs drag.
revo toro beast is 25 lbs.
big difference when dragging something out of the kelp..

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>>964493
if i lived there i would have a tank of them and let them fight.

>>964481
Yeah, its fun getting your lures, line, clothing and pretty much everything stuck in it.

>>964500
That sexy bitch at the top being all shy.

>TFW the rain clouds will be rolling in when you wake up tomorrow.

Here I was hoping to fish in the morning. I might have to just suck it up and wear my duster. What colors to use on a rainy day in clear water?

wanna start catfishin also double my set up for pike

what size braid should i be using?

>>964501
I bet, it looks like dead honeysuckle vines that has been matted down.

>>964508
I don't know about pike but 20 would be fine for cats.

>>964508
#30 is fine. might wanna get a pack of heavy flouro leaders though if you want to loose less lures.

And I dont mean tying on strands, I mean getting the pre made 12 inch ones with swivels on one end and a snap on the other

>>964511
I use 50# spiderwire for my leaders. Hold the end in your outstretched hand then run the line all the way back to your chest and cut it off. Hook at one end swivel at the other. Makes nice evenly lengthens and holds up to gar teeth. Make up 10 or so at a time.

Get a piece of cardboard and cut a strip that will fit in your tackle box. Make a shallow cut on both side of it ever 1/2 inch down the length of the "card". Stick the barb of the hook into one of the corrugated holes next to a cut then wrap the line into the cuts. You not have 10 leaders on a nice neat card. If they show any damage while you use them just get a new one out. Cut the hook and swivel off and use them to make more leaders.

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>>964520
I just use these

Pike don't give a fuck

>>964521
I have some like that too it's just cheaper to make my own. And you can use any kind of line you to make them but braid doesn't hold memory like flouro and mono do so I can make up cards that fit nice and neat in my box.

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>>964165

>>964544
Oh god what the fuck. Is that with the new eye in there or when the eye was dangling out of its socket like a fluke that slid up the line off the hook?

>>964554
I think that was right after the emergency care before the first major surgery. So they sort of cleaned everything up but nothing was fixed yet

>>964573
Horrific. Does the guy ever go fishing anymore after getting wrecked his first time out?

>>964577
I haven't spoken with him in awhile but no I don't think he does. Sort of became his least favorite thing to do.

More fish for me, I guess.

>>964579
At least the guy who took him out can say he removed someone's eyeball though which is pretty neat.

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>>964487
Damm that's pretty disappointing. Pretty pissed off but they haven't broken yet I guess. 10 bucks a pop for something you can crush with fingers? Pretty ridiculous. They must be using some rigid polystyrene for it to crack like that. Makes me think it's important for the boyancy or action possibly because it's not like polypropylene or hdpe plastics are any more expensive. Pretty ridiculous. If it's just to save money that's horseshit. They are making money at 10 bucks a piece. They work well too which pisses me off even more. I want to take one out and test it but I don't want to just break it for no reason lol.

I want to go fishing tomorrow but I need more flukes
Weather should be nice though
>>964382
Needs poppers
>>964475
Nice flat black bowfin
>>964521
They really dont
I use heavy mono though
If it gets chewed cut off a few inches and retie
Those kink a lot

>>964487
Can confirm, I got a saltwater x-rap and all the paint on the outside became soft and easy to scratch off. Makes me not want to buy another one.

>>964639
I have never had any problems with X-Raps and all other Rapalas have held up well considering how packed my tackle bag is. Not sure what you are doing.

>>964625
Never used poppers before can you or anyone else recommend a good one?

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>>964767
pop r's
ricos
megabass pop max

theres a lot of poppers out there..none are the "best"

>>964767
You know the cheap rebel poppers at walmart for like $3? The silver ones have gotten me every bass on popper ive ever gotten. Also get a pure black jitter bug, beautiful for night time

>>964767
I'm a big fan of Rapala Skitter Pops. They are a little expensive, but I never had any luck with poppers until I got that brown frog Rapala.

>>964767
I usually just use the cheapest one I can find. They all seem to catch fish at the same rate

>>964778
Thanks. Love cheap stuff that works

>>964781
I'll give them a look see this weekend

>>964784
Seems to be the consensus lol

>>964776
I guess they all pop the same right?

just dropping in to call you fish guys wack af

i have a 10 dollar kids fishing reel and i catch fish with worms for my dinner and i live by a river and you all are plebs compared to me

>>964842
Yeah well you probably need a kids reel because you're autistic

>>964842
Is it the pink princess one? If so color me jelly.

>>964844
dude may be but i know how to use the nice ones

>>964847
ahcktually it is purple because i didnt want the princess version even though it was 5 less dollars see i pay for my nice things

>>964844
Where's that one dude who spent like $100 on a spin cast? Did he ever let us know how it is?

>>964858
Yeah I'm curious as well because you have to be pants on heads retarded to pay for that

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>>964847
>>964853
>don't know if trolling or not

The pink princess is a vintage reel, fyi.

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>>964842
Meh, I have no disrespect for the ghetto freshwater guys who go out and do what they have to do. Just don't go poaching fish out of my spots.

>>964382
You need at least one square-bill crankbait.

>whopper plopper
muh nigga. Bass fucking murder those things. Love them.

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>>964858
>tfw distant relative dies
>after funeral his wife says I can have any of his fishing gear that I want
>oh boy maybe there's some nice shit
>It's all ancient spincasters and pic related
>pic related is the only thing I took

I'll catch a fish with it someday and reconnect with my ancestors

>>964894
I don't have a boat and fish from shore but I don't have any rip rap by me really. Do I still need a square bill then? Never used one. The deep divers are for running along sheer drops and piers.

>>964901
Squarebills are shallow divers.

I rarely use cranks like that anyway tho. Never had much luck. If I want to run deeper, I will toss a heavier lipless otherwise it is mostly jerkbaits.

>>964904
If I had a boat I would have easily 30 different lipped cranks I dont.....

>>964908
They're still good for covering water, especially ones with wide bills.

>>964901
I have a boat and fish rocky lakes (Missouri). Squarebills are great for bumping along shallow rocks and other hard cover. Their tight wobble makes them great for spring too once that water hits 55.

>>964909
>>964910
Got aby recommendations for a brand that's not 15 bucks for one? I usually use a lipless crank or chatter bait to cover water before I pitch plastics to an area after I find fish.

>>964912
Sure, I've thrown Luck-E Strike, Strike King, KVD, and Manns off the top of my head. They're all in the $5-$7 a pop category.
You don't need to spend $15 for these baits, especially since once in awhile you WILL get hung on a log and lose one.

>>964914
Strike King and Baker RGDs are good.

X-Cite, Lucky Craft, and Yammamoto cranks are also really good, but more expensive.

>>964918
Meant to reply to >>964912

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>>964912
What's that brand TXfag likes? Bagley I think. They actually make a flat billed rattler and those only go for $5.99. I grabbed a gold one and was doing bretty gud with it.

>>964918
>>964919
>>964914
Of you had to pick best value for the money and durability what would you go v with since I'm going to be tossing it near chatter and rock piles?

Thanks for the info guys

>>964923
>>964923
Never seen bagley here in AZ. I will have to look around.

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>getting some gifts at walmart
>sea a salt water rod and reel combo for 15$
>give it a little bend to see how it goes
>entire rod snaps in my hand instantly
>put it back on the rack and leave ASAP

>>964925
Gander Mtn has em. Idk who else carries them.

>>964923
I've never tried their square bills so idk. Im a big fan of the lipless crank they make.

>>964924
Strike King KVDs probably. Honestly you shouldn't get hung up too much on rocks. If you do gently shake your rod tip and see if that frees it.

If not do the first technique in this video https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5XKhBWfvyAc (Around 2:25)

I haven't lost a square bill in a long ass time.

Burying a hook in a log or a cast net is another story tho.

>>964931
>>964928
Thanks guys.

>>964927
Kek

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>>964931
You recommended their rattlers and I didn't see any lipless ones so I got that squarebill rattler. I also have one of those stick baits with the prop but did better with the rattler.

>>964927
If it wasn't you, some unsupervised minority kids would've broken it at some point that day anyway. Don't feel bad.

>>964927
>tfw there's cameras hanging directly in the middle of the fishing aisle at my local Wal-Mart now with a big sign that says "you are being filmed"

I-It was just one crankbait jeez

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>>964901
Round bills are for rocks on the bottom.
Square bills are for casting into branches and shit.

Should I drop $200 on a nice pair of polarized glasses ?
I've bought cheap ones in the past and fucked them up

>>964953
If I bought $200 glasses I would end up never using them but that's just me.

>>964956
Maybe I'll buy a cheap knockoff pair
Idk I tried on a pair today and they blocked out the light really well
They also didn't look horrible on me either

>>964962
Yeah, I have a bad habit of resting my glasses on the bill of my hat when I'm not wearing them and I've lost too many off the side of the boat to ever drop that kind of money on them.

A pair that I just keep in my car for driving? Maybe but that's still too much for me. Keep in mind that I'm a poorfag though.

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>>964953
y?

>>964964
I do the same rest them on my hat , but I f eel like I would buy a lanyard and that might help me not lose them immediately

Fucking Oakley's
First glasses that have actually fit me well and looked decent in a long time

>>964966
I've recently started wearing sunglasses when I'm out so I'm not blind when I'm old
THey also help a ton when fishing or doing anything where it's beneficial to see into the water

>>964953
I honesty really like the BPS glasses. They were only $15 last time I went in there.

>>964972
I've tried like 3-4 different pairs of cheap sunglasses
Polarization on some better then others
But none of them have blocked light out very well

>>964974
i use safety glasses they use in industrys like steel production so i recommend you try some like that.

>>964953
You probably don't have to go that high. I wear glasses tho so I have my prescription Ray Bans and I always wear em while fishing. Helps you see in the water so much better. I also try not to lose them every other week.

>>964974
They're dark enough for me, but then again I don't like super dark tints.

>>964991
If possible I usually like a good polirazation and a good mirrored finish

>>964953
Polarized Costas can be had on ebay for around a $100. Best fishin' glasses ever.

>>964947
That's pretty cool. That's from lunkerstv right?

>>964897
What the actual fuck lol. Was your relative a south east Asian poor immigrant or something? Looks like it would be fun to land some slab blue gill with it.

>>964953
I need a good pair of smallie spotter as well. I got a cheapo $10 pair from walmart im rockin rn. Shit is garbage compared to a well made polarized glass lens. I know Costa makes some great glasses but like the other anons said my biggest worry is loosing them since I've always somehow lost my old pairs when I was younger

>>965010
I might try a nice pair of Oakley's
The fuel cells fit me well and completely block out light
The polarization should be decent and im a fan of the mirrored lenses
If I lose or break one pair of sunglasses at that price I'll go back to cheapies

>>965012
Just get a lanyard for the back of them. That way they won't fall in the water

>>965032
That's what I was planning
The back of them seems a bit fat but I'm sure I could find simething

>>965034
Just get Costa glasses. They are made for boating and fishermen and are Oakley quality. They have mounts for lanyards.

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>>965032
>>965034
>>965037
Don't forget the cork so they float anyway.

>>965046
Damn. That's actually a good idea. Also if you don't like the Costa del Mar glasses tackle warehouse has an Eyewear section with some other good brands. Strike king is a good budget option.

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Caught this 2 1/2ft american eel on a shrimp, in an 18ft hole, with a ripping tide, on the bottom. First time ever catching one on a hook, is this fairly rare?

>>965037
They don't wrap around enough to totally shut out light
Plus I haven't seen any significantly cheaper that I like

>>965052
I used to fish for them at night
Haven't in a few years though .
Kind of uncommon to catch them in the day

>3 threads back we gearfag about line
>2 threads back we gearfag about rods
>1 thread back we gearfag about reels
>This thread we gear fag about glasses

I vote next thread we gear fag about coolers.

>>965059
Yeti is objectively the best cooler but it's retarded expensive. They should be like half the price

>>965062
RTI is a yeti copy if you can find them. The wife got half the company in the divorce and rebranded the RTI.

I personally use pelican.

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>>965056
Are they any good to eat, I just threw it back.

Also caught this 20 inch Trout as well, caught on a mud minnow on the bottom, with a Zman Trout eye jig in red. She had eggs I'm frying as well

>>965067
>>965062
Does Yeti use aerogel or vacuum as insulation? If not, it really isn't worth that price.

>>965069
The man who catches eels, has soup in his future.

>>965069
Yeah they are good to eat and so uncommon I most places that you can get a body of water record if you can land one.

>>965069
I knew someone who knew someone who loved them
We would go eel fishing and then he would bring her 20 lbs of eel at a time

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>>965070
Honestly dude I'm not quite sure what you mean and idk if it's the e Williams, but it made me feel

>>965071
>>965075
Damn that's pretty wild, if I knew that I would of ate it for sure. Honestly thought it was a snakehead potentially and wanted to make sure it wasn't before I tried to release it.

>>965080
But it made me geek*

>>965070
Both Yeti and Pelican use polyurethane.

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>>965082
-That's a range of 5.5 to 6.5 R-value, per inch. Yeti is on the low end of quality and performance for those.
-Polystyrene/Styrofoam has an R-value of 4.6, per inch. Which is what most cheap cooler companies use.
-Aerogel is around R-9 per inch. It is rare and extraordinary expensive. Like $2k per average sized cooler and you have to know someone who knows someone who can hook you up. Usually only for 1%, military, and science. It is actually better and cheaper to make your own from structural aerogel panels.

Thankfully, aerogel products are finally dropping in price. You can even get aerogel-based clothing (Oros' Solorcore) now.

>>964953
no thats dumb

$30 pair do the same shit. youre paying for branding

>>965082
He's not talking about the outside of the cooler dude lol. He's talking about the stuff between the walls.

>>965097
>polyurethane insulation

It is a thing.

>>965099
Oh. I guess I am wrong then lol. I thought he was saying the white cooler plastic was polyurethane.

So they only work so well because they are thick as fuck then or what?

>>965100
They have 2 inches of polyurethane insulation. The insulation is pretty good. However, the form it takes and how old it is plays a massive role in how well it performs.

>>965102
if you say so but that makes sense. So what the coolers don't work as well when they age? It shouldn't break down because no sunlight gets to the insulation though.

All I know is their solid coolers are awesome. They work way fuckin better than igloo or pelican stuff

>>965080
Will post pics next time I go eel fishing

>>965009
Looks like an ice fishing rod
>>965059
No, hooks

>>965113
if you aint buying Eagle Claw™ Lazer Sharp hooks you're a literal fucking faggot and should consider suicide

>>965117
If you ain't buying Gamagatsu GLOK 4/0 hooks in black oxide finish you're a literal fucking faggot and should consider suicide.

>>965108
Polyurethane insulation loses about 14-15% of its R-value after 5 years.

>>965127
In air? Because if it's sealed air tight inside the cooler walls it shouldn't loose that much integrity at all. Those are sealed in with an inert gas and or nitrogen.

I would believe that loss in air with oxygen and sunlight or artificial light.

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>>965121
>>965117
>his hooks aren't red

>>965128
It is a physical property of shrinkage of the plyurethane insulation. Kind of like a curing time I suppose.

>>965092
>>965100
>>965102
>>965108

Pelican ice almost as well as Yeti, normally with in 1 days difference in tests. I personally like the Pelican latches more than the Yeti latches. The down side is Pelican is heavier and holds ice for a shorter amount of time. The upside is Pelican latches can not be opened by pawing at them and they cost 3/4. The price.

Both have thier pros and cons and non of them are worth the price unless you need them for a specific task. Just going day fishing a $15 igloo is fine. Camping for weeks at a time in a spot that is 50 miles from the road (like on the PINS) and the cost of driving to get gas every day or 2 is more than a $300 cooler that only needs new ice every 7-8 days.

>>965133
I use a cheap styrofoam cooler and set it inside the larger igloo cooler.

>>965136
If that works for you then use it. I was looking at $30+ and 5 hours per trip just to get ice.

>>965145
I don't use ice when camping. I only use it for bring home food from fishing. I don't bring foods when camping since I only hunt or fish what I need on the spot.

>>965131
Yeah. In an oxygen environment or exposed to light. Not sealed air tight in a cooler wall with and inert gas or pure nitrogen or in a vacuum.

>>965148
Congratulations you do things differently then I do. I like to have some things that need to be kept cool while camping on the beach like milk for making chowder or sausage for breakfast tacos. Some times I need to keep bait cool or catch a fish that is bigger than I can eat in one meal so I save some back for the next day. I also save some to bring home with me.

If I'm hiking to a spot then no I don't take a cooler but when camping out of the Jeep then some things are more fun to have.

>>965153
Incorrect. It is caused by the chemical composition of the plyurethane itself and its foam shape. It doesn't shrink much more after 5 years.

>>965166
>Congratulations you do things differently then I do.

I thought that was understood and you were asking what specifically.

>>965183
Ah then I'm sorry I half snapped at you.

One or both of us misinterpret a post along the way. I'm also a tad drunk and have been having some heated political debates while also following this conversation.

So again sorry and carry on.

>>965188
Clarification I know that I myself did infact take your post in a manner that you did not intend. I felt that you were going the "pfff fuck your over priced shit" route that is common in a lot of /out/ breads.

>>965181
Sure

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>>965193
No worries, I'm all about, "the right tool for the job".

>>965195
That is honestly something I would do.

The three greatest lessons my father taught me were haggling, skirting the law and nigger rigging.

Oh....

Hey trashfly have you tried out those foam frogs yet? I was thinking that adding a small bill to the front might help displace a tad more water and draw in some reaction strikes.

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>>965202
This area is nothing but clay soils. Clear water in winter is very rare. Everything is chocolate brown right now. 0 visibility. I need at least 4 inches of visibility and hope to cast right across something in order to catch it.

Summer/Fall fishing will be better for the lures I make. There's little to no rain and water is clear to the bottom.

>>965208
Why not just put rattles or a Colorado blade on the fly?

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>>965210

>>965211
Kek. Nevermind. That's hilarious

That sucks, but let me know when you try them out. Most of your shit isn't for me but the forgs look interesting.

>>964417

it's true though. glad i went daiwa and shimano this year instead of wasting any more money on abu and pfleuger.

i mean, abu and pfleuger are fine companies, so is lews, but when your lineup is pretty much all low/mid offerings it's hard to compare to a company that offers mainly mid/high tier offerings.

there's never been a cheaper time to get shimano gear, chronarchs are 199 again and curado's were 130 with discounts, tatula's are often 100 online and the SV spools have trickled down to the tatula lineup.

that being said there's nothing 'wrong' with the 3 abu reels i have, nor with the president spinner i've got. they're not going anywhere and i will get use out of them.

if anything pfleuger makes the best spincast reels as far as build quality, though nobody here cares for spincast. I like having one around just for the hell of it.

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>>965216
>forgs

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>>965220
>rum

I went on the river today in waders and had no luck. But holy shit is it actually a bit scary to encounter your first carp in person while wading and having a school of giants just roam by you.

I tried my best to try and catch one, they seemed active as one was jumping out of the water, heard its for spawning I think?

They didnt bite on garlic eggs nor some of the early budding flowers on the trees that overhanged the river. Sucks that i didnt have corn but might hit the same spot with it next time.

The river is supposed to be great for smb too but didnt see any. Lots of baitfish in the shallows however, huge clumps of them.

>>964499

drag weights don't mean shit, even a chinese kastking can do 45 lb drag. quality drag > quantity drag.

you should be pulling shit out of the water with the rod and not the reel.

>>965226
Where are you at where there's tons of bait fish already ?

>>965230
raritan river in NJ. Few weeks ago we had some warm weather but just earlier this week it was 15F outside. Today it returned to that warm weather finally with 60F after a few days of 40F.

Im guessing the lil fingerlings got started but the smb havent decided to move yet. Although the carp were...

>>965219
The Shimano shilling on this board is getting to paid endorsement levels. It's hilarious.

Abu and Pflueger offer 300 and 400 dollar reels you retard.

>>965239

you're the retard that missed the point that x company offers mostly mid/high end stuff while y company offers mostly low/mid stuff.

offering one expensive reel doesn't make you a high end company.

you'd be a fool to spend that money on lower tier brands when you can get something better for a similar price.

>>965248
>one expensive reel offering

Yeah okay retard. They offer multiple. Especially abuse saltwater and round reel selection. You're being a retard.

If you honestly think people need to spend 700 dollars on Shimano Stella to catch 1 to 3 pound bass you're a fucking retard 14 tear old trust fund kid with no understanding of work and money or just a rich adult snob.

>>965224
That's some good shit there.

>>965248
Abu has 7 reels well over 300 dollars right now. What are you talking about? Maybe 6 over 300 if one is on sale or something.

>>965290

>no mention of the tons of sub 200 dollar reels they offer that are barely different than the reel 20 dollars above and below

might as well be fishing shishamo.

>>965293
What are you talking about? Their orra line directly competes with 100 dollar reels from BPS, Lews, and 13, and the revo s and sx lines compete with the with curado and cities directly. Their other reels in the mid 200s compete withe mgl from shimano etc etc etc etc.

You're just being a fucking idiot. Do you want me to get a list of msrp prices from both websites for you to look at and compare?

What you're trying to prove doesn't even make sense. You just prefer one brand and you don't even have a logical reason as to why. You're only argument is that they sell cheaper reels in the entry level market. So does shimano. It's called the Sedona.

Do you think Honda is shit because they sell the civic so the NSX is junk too? Is Porsche garbage because VW owns them and sells the jetta? You're a retard and don't understand economics of scale. Ferrari only sells high end shit yet the Porsche 918 Spyder stomps on their stuff even though they are the same company and group that sells the low end jetta.

Never post again.

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>>965248
Such a low end trash reel guys. Just look. No advantage to this design at all.

>>965297

>typing all that up
>never post again
>brings up cars

did you get skunked today?

>>965302
What a good response. Mad I proved you wrong? It's an obvious comparison that destroys your reasoning.

Did you know the same company that sells low end bud light ALSO sells good beer and imports beer products and craft brews?

Who would have thought that a company with a diversified sales market is more stable and can fund high end product development from cheap product sales.

You're an idiot.

>>965300

Looks like gimicky garbage to me. In edgelord red, no less.

>>965308

Agreed. Note the handles that look like big rims to attract the youth crowd.

>>965300
thing looks like a cheap piece of shit

>>965308
>gets proven wrong again
>has nothing to say about it because he hasn't looked at the gear ratio difference or reel specs
>resorts to calling it edgy to save face

I could call the new Shimano curado an edglord try hard design compared to the old green and gold sparkle ones. It's still a good reel even though I prefer the old green ones goofy 70s color scheme and charm.

Again. You're an idiot.

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>>965309
>>965313
Giant cheap silver shit plastic looking reel. Has a big reel handle just like bug car rims. It's shit.

Oh wait. It's Shimano. So 350 dollars is okay.

>>965315

That's the first time I've posted in a few days goober.

>>965318

he's mad because more of us agree that he's wrong.

and he keeps ending posts with idiot. did summer start already?

>>965317
Now THATS what I call a sophisticated precise fish catching device! Simply astonishing to think about all the time and effort that went into engineering such a fine instrument

>>965317

That thing is hideous but very clearly purpose built.

>>965313
>>965309
>>965308

"I just don't like the way it looks"

>buys a giant gold shimano Calcutta that weighs as much as his wife's son and is fucking huge with a whopping 11 pounds of drag

>>965322
And the retarded fast retrieve speed on the giant revo Toro rocket reel is not purpose built? Same argument. The Toro is not the same as the regular revo rocket which still is purpose built.

>>965323
>his only talking point is "muh drag"

top kek.

I mean at the end of the day you're only hurting yourself by buying that garbage. Us enlightened gentlemen will continue to use the finest the industry has to offer

>>965327

they don't even upgrade their bearings or drag washers. plebs.

what sort of fish would i get this time of year in alabama rivers?

total beginner here, i rlly admire you guys :)

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>>965321
>>965317

They even named it the tranx because it's basically a tranny. It's a low profile reel trying to be a round conventional reel because it believed it was born in the wrong reel housing.

>>965328
B O C A
O
C
A

amiright?

Shimano.. Daiwa..

I see these names. Is catching a bass really that popular in Japan? Do you think there are Japanese that just want to move to America to realize their dream of being a bass fisherman? Makes me think

>>964382
Got any poppers?

>>965336

my nigga!

>>965337
They also have a giant ocean around their country anon....you know that right? Also yeah they really like bass fishing.

Also Shimano makes a lot of bicycle parts. Also popular in Japan. They make high end shit but have pretty good competition on the bike scene as well.

This is 4chan so everyone sucks chink cock here.

>>965337
Really big pass time in japan. Lake Biwa is like the holy land over there

>>965341
So the bass fishing stuff is designed by a wing of the company in the US?

>>965343
their high end stuff is manufactured in japan and is designed for the American market

>>965343
Basically this for the most part>>965347

Daiwa advertises JDP hardware as well.

>>965347
I see. Good to know. From now on I'll only buy the finest handcrafted Japanese reels so I can be a true nihongo

>>965329
I don't know about Bamy but probably catfish.

>>965350
have you ever been giggin

>>965337

No. Gary Yamamoto was born a poor black child in the ghetto of South Chicago. Some people rapped to get out to get out of his neighborhood, some played basketball, and some even sold drugs. Gary just wanted to be a Japanese pro bass fisherman in America.

>>965359
When a couple of bass. Up to no good. Started making trouble in my neighborhood. So I hopped in the lab and designed a bait that looked just like my Japanese worm dick and I was of to Belair!

>>965359
Yes I was actually curious about him but when I search him he doesn't even have a wikipedia page. Strange how big people in the fishing community are still basically nobodies.

I think he's an interesting guy I'd like to know more about him.

>>965361
kek

>>965361

The end needs work.

>>965362

He's a cool dude from what I can tell. He's retired from the tourney circuit since he got fuck you rich from Senko lures but now he has this huge ranch down in TX where he raises Kobe beef and keeps about a dozen killer bass ponds. I hear you can stay and fish there but the reservations fill up really fast.

>>965367

they fill up from rich neet white boys on youtube from what i've seen.

>>965367
its a public fishery but like you said it requires a reservation for obvious reasons. Id love to go down there at one point in my life to wet a line. Gary seems like a really nice guy

>>965349
The steel is folded 10000000 times!

>>965367
I've thought about fishing there for a day, just to meet it him. It's like $80 for a day though.

>>965370

They aren't really neets. Youtube is a legit job these days if you can keep up the content. Seems like a ton of work t b h.

>>965370

I like the Googan squad.

Who is the hickok45 of the fishing world?

>>965389

No one compares.

>>965389
>>965391
Who's the nutn?

>>965394

Informative Fisherman

>>965357
Only flounder

>>965394

i forgot nutnfancy existed, now i have to go see if he's got new autism.

are the spro bbz swimbaits worth the 20 bucks or just a marketing scheme?

>>965361
>>965367
Now, this is a story all about how
My bait got flipped-turned upside down
And I'd like to take a minute
Just sit right there
I'll tell you how I became the prince of fishing without care

In west Chicago born and raised
On the river bank was where I spent most of my days
Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool
And all shootin' top shot off of my spool
When a couple of bass who were up to no good
Started giving me trouble with my plug of wood
I got one little fight and those bass got scared
I said 'I'm gonna make a lure you can fish anywhere'

I sketched up some plans an then it became clear
This senko was fresh looking like ice on a mirror
If anything I could say that this worm was superior
And I thought 'Yeah they'll hit' - 'Yo, holmes to the pier'

I pulled up to the lake about 7 or 8
And I yelled to the baddies 'Yo holmes is that a gator'
I looked at my kingdom
I was finally there
To fish all alone as the fish Prince of America

>>965417
Not bad. Maybe this thread could produce a decent Shad Rapp-esque rap album about fishing.

Call me Old Dirty Bowfin

>>965474
Biggie Smallsmouth
Snopp Doggfish
Nellyfish
Dr. Dray
LL School J
Shad Hugo
Lutafisk
Solja Boy
Mackerelmore

>>965493
>Mackerelmore
I hate all of you so much

>>964592
Rapala apparently sent someone a statement about it. They said they simply are not trying to make an indestructible lure, they made one with very good action so it sounds like it's all down to the action.

>>964923
Dat clackin' rap

>>965113
I actually want the hook debate.

are BPS hooks as good as Gamagatsu?
are eagleclaw mazer sharp hooks as good as trokar?

What about the red hook meme?
Garlic scented hook meme?
Etc

>>965510
>garlic scented hook meme

Best for catching Guinea fish.

>>965308
Bait

>>965329
Don't admire us

>>965370
Jealousy is a real bitch ain't it

>>965317
>>965300
Why do these things have what looks like door knobs on them? They are huge. Are they for people with arthritis?

>>965510
Gamis for Texas rigs and Trokar for flippin.

I like VMC for swimbait and shaky head stuff.

Those berkley hooks are also good while being cheap

>>965519
Is for big game fish like monster jack

>>965329
Bass and catfish.

Depends on how big the river is and if it has flow or cypress swamp.

Boat or bank fishing? Bank I would go for catfish

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>>965229
actually test drag pressure is what gets your fish into the boat. not your rod. you ever see someone handline a big fish?
not everything is bass fishing where you can literally high stick drag a fish to the boat.

which kastking reel specifically pulls 45 lbs of drag?

when vertical jigging/deep jigging/speed jigging one of the lessons you will learn is that the reel acts as your winch. the rods flex provides the lures action. if you use the rod in typical lift and pull fashion you will lose the battle by tiring yourself out and not gaining much on the fish. the most effective method to use is to point the rod, bury the rod and crank letting the rods flex absorb the fishes energy hence tiring it out faster. the newer rail rods being manufactured are a testament to this method of fishing. you would be surprised at the flimsy rods people catch big fish on.

"drag weights(sic) dont mean shit" is a retarded statement. drag pressures are measured under sustained load not how much you can lock a drag down. if that were the criteria why even have a drag to begin with?
"quality drag" i assume youre talking washers, have no effect if the reels pinions can handle the drag pressures. you will blow out the reel and could hardly turn the handle under max load. I know were on /out/ but still please try to keep some modicum of truth to your arguments

>>965519
you really cant figure that out?

>>965317
plastic...kek

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>>965208
what ya going to do with that?
trailer or a spinner?

should i go and eel/catfish tonight?
would basically bring a lawn chair and a handful of rods , walk about half a mile to my spot, and set up maybe make a little tin can fire and wait the night
its supposed to snow tomorrow morning and it ay be windy and shitty all night

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>>965507
>$4
Idk it's heavy do it's a good one to launch with the memecaster when I want to cover water.

Also Dick's has some fish finders on sale til 10pm tonight with the "Flash Sale".

>>965559
>>965523
You pull fish in using the rod. The reel is just to take up the slack as you lower the rod. You don't pull in fish directly with the reel.

>>965603
Except that if you can't exert enough stopping force on the drag you line will just peel off and not move fish out of grass or lily pads. If that's the case why doesn't everyone just leave the drag super loose?

You're wrong.

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>>965608
>>965603
rod and reel are both sort of useful in bringing in fish

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Damn they have some steals on tackle bags right now too.

>>965650
True but if the reel won't hold enough pressure the rod is going to do fuck all to hold or control the fish.

>>965665
and if the rod is a stick it doesnt matter how good the reel is, you're going to be pretty limited in what you can do

>>965671
I'd rather have a 300 dollar reel on a 100 dollar rod than the opposite though.

>>965660
Just use a backpack if you're bank fishing. It's way more comfortable.

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>>965650
then why dont commercial longline fishermen use them?

>>965679
Kek. True

>>965608
>he's having trouble with drag

Doesn't your reel have a break and/or drag adjust? For freshwater I use my thumb to adjust the drag on the fly by pressing against the spool. You can do it on saltwater too, but if you have something over 4 feet on your hook... lol

>tfw I have drag set as loose as possible and never have problems

>>965674
I'd rather handline than pay that price.

>>965679
Because rod and reels are for sportfishing, not commercial or subsistence. That's also why the circle hook exists. It is essentially a snare for fish and you can set lines without rod and reel. The fish pulls on the hook, it turns to the corner of the mouth and locks in place.

>>965679
good thing we arent talking about commercial longline fishermen

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>>965211
Looks like my local river right now

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>>965687
well again thats not true. A number of countries use jackpoles for commercial fishing. jackpoles are not sporting.
In many countries commercial fishermen solely use fishing rods and reels to harvest catch. new zealands kingfish (yellowtail) for an example. they smash them on topwater and deep jigs. all caught on rod and reel to conform to the commercial laws set forth.

also bruh.. this is not why circle hooks exist.. people were commercial fishing long before circle hooks existed.

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>>965691
it is still fishing non the less. but good thing since no one is familiar with its methods of take.
you should start a bluegill thread.

>>965698
im more of a yellow perch type of feller

>>965698
>paying for guided trips
>fishing
they bring you to the goo spots, they tell you what to use and how to use it and they suck your dick

>>965685
You're literally just lying to argue for the sake of arguing. Shut up.

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Damn, there sure has been a big jump in autism lately

>>965660
I have the gander mtn version of that top one its pretty good. Holds a fuck load of tackle but once you fill it up its not easy to carry around unless your just bringing it to and from a boat or a specific spot

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>>965701
perch are fun to catch, theyre scrappy on light setups

>>965703
ehh not always bruh, my experience with guides is that theyre always sizing you up.

them taking you to productive spots, rigging, baiting, how to do this and that is what guides do. that is their job to get you on fish so they use you as an extension of themselves and what they would be doing.
lodge guides become your buddy. vacation guides are usually all business working for that tip. you ever hire one? I hired one years ago in belize that I still keep up with and consider a friend. I guess Im biased but Ive only had one bad guide that I didnt like and that was because he added 4 high dollar passengers to a boat I chartered by myself. he told them I was the walk on. we caught fish but it wasnt what I had planned, fishing with 2 guys and their gf's even if it was cheaper.

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Beautiful river by a golf course- at a local site I saw a trout with a golf ball bulging out of him from this same river.
There's a lot of golf balls around- possible to resell them for any value?

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>>965783
Also currently nothing spotted but lil minnows and carp in this upper branch of the river- the carp aren't biting my corn + garlic eggs :(

Just noticed them under this big log right when I was gonna leave

>>965731
Never gone on any exotic charters/guided trips but I frequent one chapter for stripers / bluefish as a +1 when groups want an extra guy to help split the cost

The way the guy runs he charter drives me crazy , he picks the spot , picks the bait , sets the bait out , and will usually set the hook then hand the rod to the other people on the boat , (if trolling)
I've told him that's not what I enjoy doing and to just let me do my thing
So if we're stopped I toss my own bucktails lures or diamond jigs. If we're trolling I usually end up getting a rod to myself. And putting out something different ( I don't really like when he trolls)

>>965730
3700 bags are always going to be bulky once you get them loaded with tackle. They have a bunch of 3500 little ones for like $8 with that sale and that is enticing because I keep debating going with a small guy like that.

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>>964374

Anyone still waiting to fish open water the first time this year?

>>965808
>The way the guy runs he charter drives me crazy , he picks the spot , picks the bait , sets the bait out , and will usually set the hook then hand the rod to the other people on the boat

Sounds like saltwater charter fishing. At least we got beer on ours.

>>964499

drag weight means fuck all if the drag SYSTEM itself is shit

>excited to see a fishing general because it's my favorite outdoor activity
>full of gearqueers arguing over which brand to suck off the most

Tie an anchor to your dicks you flaming fags. All the best gear in the world won't catch the fish for you. I'd rather go fishing by myself with a fucking Zebco and a spongebob bobber than have top-tier equipment and have to listen to you pansies bitch about some other guy's fucking thumb cushions on his ceramic crank/dildo combination.

>>965817
I've already caught 3 bass 4 crappies and 1 northern pike. Its never too early to start fishing when you have nothing better to do

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>>965830
I know right?!? drag systems are so hard for manufacturers to get right. the revo toro beast and that ungodly ineffective plastic tranx use layers of oily t-shirt cotton and aluminum foil for drag washers. I cant believe the prices they charge for those shit tier reels, theyre so out of reach for fishermen like ourselves that are used to superior ht100 drag washers that can pull 45# of drag pressure on a chinese made bass reel. those losers probably have to thumb their spools to increase the amount of drag they need when a big fish hits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cB-Mjh0YG4

New favorite fishing channel

>>965837
You're literally retarded if you believe that. Would you rather go to a gun fight with a dildo or a Scar 17?

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>>965850
This comment. Kek

>>965052
Rare? No, they love eating baiting on the bottom and tangling themselves on structure. Good eating when smoked or grilled but a pain to clean.

>>965856
They are good as fuck smoked. Fatty delicious fish.

>>965709
>he doesn't know how to fish
>thinks everything is a lie and is angry

WEW

>>965697
Jackpoles don't have a reel. They are just poles. The point is that rods and reels are sport fishing.

Circle hook was one of the original hooks used by primitive peoples.

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>>965858
Yeah man. My local spot has a good number of eels and we sometime find striped bass bellies full up on 3-4lb eels. Speaking about non target fish anyone fishing northeast saltwater throw these guys back? They taste like a cross between fluke and porgy

>>965872
i toss most fish back
y favorate spot to fish ( mostly to bring others fishing) is a sandbar thats packed with them, light bass rods and small bucktails+gulp
you end up catching them right underneath your feet,

>>965872
>>965873
theyre the main catch there though sometimes you get fluke as well
i also havent ever been there when bluefish are around

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>>965868
>"oh hai guys just for clarification"

aint nobody listenen to yur blibber blabber anymo' nigga, put your trip back on. I'm watchin' african americans on da' river rite nao. unlike you theyr actually catchin' fish..

>>965872
sea robin

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>>965875
>>965873
Oh yeah sometimes fluke fishing you get nothing but sea robins. They really like eating my strip bait and tangling up the line.

>>965879
shiet id love to catch a few small ones and put together a salt water aquarium

its great catching any fish right at your feet everyone loves it

>>965880
Dude totally. Spring is coming and so are weakfish and schoolies time to bust out the waders

>>965883
too cheap to buy waiders, i ust wait until its aa little warmer and go in a bathing suit,
where you located at?
i dont do enough saltwater fishing because its not worth driving an hour to go fish alone

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>>965885
Long Island NY, winter sucks here wanna move to florida or somewhere cheap and warm.

>>965890
im on the other side of the sound ,
what rods/reels do you use? ive been looking for a new setup

>>965891
I have a couple 12 foot surf rods for chunking and plugging both heavy fast action. Inshore bay i use a mh fast spinning and baitcasting rods. Light rods for snapper blues and pier fishing. Ireally want to do a long range tilefish trip but you really need a 2 speed or electric reels

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>>965894
do you go on the boats for blackfish?
I went a couple of years ago and had a blast.

>>965897
Yeah you catch more keeper blackfish on a boat. I've seen small blackfish hanging out near jetties. Breezy point last summer i saw a couple of them chilling out in 5 feet of water

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My first of 10 largemouth bowfin I caught today. All dinks. Largest was barely 1.5 lbs. Ponds are fun but I'm ready to catch a brute. What kind of stickbaits catch the biggest fish? Bonus points if you don't mention jigs.

>>965905
A wacky rigged worm or drop shot does the trick for me. Does your ponds get a lot of fishing traffic?

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>>965905
soft swimbaits catch fish.

>>965909

It's hardly pressured at all. It's small and shallow, so I figure there's only one apex predator lunker in there and the rest are little guys.

>>965905
What does stickbait mean in this context?

>>965914
Eh might be a pond just filled with dinks. You need deeper water to have bigger bass.

>TFW you pack your gear to go fishing but a storm hits when you get to your buddy's house.

Oh well we went to the bar and got drunk and played pool while talking about fishing. I also made out with some bar slag and me and my buddy made plans for tomorrow rain or shine.

>>965837
found the abu shitposter

>>965850
>crappiekiller is allergic to crappie

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>>965915
jerkbaits and ripbaits i would assume

>>965915

I misspoke. I'm looking more for soft finesse plastics for big bass.

Pepsi make a new thread faggot.

>>965929
Ok

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>>965940
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