HomeGrowmen #75

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>>902133
Pic related is the template for the OP pic.

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>>902133

tfw when my carob tree seeds won't sprouts

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Did some rearranging. I think I overestimated how much space I would have and I feel like I'm gonna get very cramped very soon

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>>902355
using non-opaque cups was also a mistake. there's some algae growing in the green and yellow cups. i'll need to find some larger opaque cups to repot in soon.

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can anyone identify?

>>902568
Brazilian peppertree?

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Just got some more channel cats.

My vine cutting won't sprout new roots. Does it have to be in soil? I've been keeping the end submerged in water, but no roots have sprouted yet and the leaves are starting to turn yellow.

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update

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rosemary starting to flower

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avovado; spider mites under control maybe

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tiger bark ficus (bottom left)
ponytail palm ? (bottom right)
mustard habanero (top mid)
monkey puzzle (back)

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who ever was growing a lemon... here is a shoot/sucker after 2 weeks left uncut

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avocado again, removed some lower branches also a couple near the top they were too damaged/infested. i noticed some on the habanero as well and did the same, then sprayed dish soap on them

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Did I over prune this guy? It has had a lot of yellowing and browning leaves and I've been trimming them off but the last new leaves keep turning bad as well and now its growth has slowed down a lot

Is compost barrel guy here? I'm planning on making one of my own and have a few questions.

>>902853
Could be over watering, iron deficiency or rootbound

>>902913
I am, sir. Ask away!

>>903028
What volume barrel/drum did you use?
Do you think metal or plastic is better?
Will the compost be sufficiently aerated just by the drum not being air-tight, or should I punch holes in the sides to allow air into it?

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This is my chamomile plant that I promised to post a few days ago

When should I expect it to start flowering? Summer starts tomorrow

Also, I keep reading things that say chamomile plants benefit from being stepped on and disturbed. I don't understand why, any one know why? I can't find an reasons.

>>903073
You live in the meme hemisphere

Still waiting on my fucking grapefruit seed

>>903078

same here, what's your grapefruit seed's problem anyway? it thinks it's too cool to germinate? It should get over itself.

>>903075
I'm aware ;_;
But it's always fun posting during my summer and spring while you silly northerners are dealing with winter weather

>>903094
It has 2 roots almost 1 inch long sticking out of it for 2 weeks. No shoot or cotyledon yet.

>>903094
actually I just checked now and the seed has opened up. Hopefully tomorrow there will be cotyledon and a stem

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Hey Buds, I'm a newfag and this is my first time posting, I was wondering about a few things that are a little out there in terms of "plant help" goes but this is the closest 4chan comes to plant life t,bh.

Do any of you posses an agriculture degree of some kind and if so, how would you suggest a new guy start out into the field. I love nature and I'm young and looking for a career. I would like to know if It's too much of a leap to jump into a Horticultural Course at a college if I have no prior experience.

Any if you guys have info or experience on ordering marijuana seeds/plants or wtv , online and delivering the in a country that is illegal? Is there any camouflashed methods established outthere? Like maybe the shroom ring or something similar?

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>>903344
Tbh a good board to ask is /biz/. Most people here are just hobbyists. There was a thread on becoming a botonist on /biz/ a few weeks ago too

>>903345
>>>/b/

>>903344
Where are you from?

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>>903345

dea plz

>>903375
/biz/ is for cryptoshills and people that think filling out surveys 6 hours for a 10$ gift card is a reasonable business opportunity though.

Will post pics of my babby grapefruit soon

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Is my grapefruit a twin? What's the second stem?

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>>903695
Probably. Citruses love to be polyembryonic, pic my twin lemon seedling a couple days after sprouting back in July 2015

>>903732
Do you have to kill one, or are they connected so that they don't compete for resources?

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>>903745
I actually separated them after a while (couple weeks IIRC, but you could do so earlier I guess), and as of now, both are still alive and kicking (pic from shortly before I pruned them back some weeks ago)

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>>903732
looks a lot like my picture desu.

>>903749
Wow your lemon is great, my lemon is still less than 20cm tall. This pic is a couple weeks old

>>903750
Well of course mine are now almost 1 1/2 years old. Both reached over a metre, but now after pruning are back to about 50cm, as I want them to grow more "bushy" on the tops next year

Still can't get Mandarin orange seeds to sprout though, nothing happening after 2 weeks so far

>>903752
>nothing happening after 2 weeks so far
my grapefruit sprouted roots after 2 weeks, and at least 1 more week before anything green came out. Today is the first day with actual stem coming up

>>903052
My barrel is 50 gallon food-safe barrel-- I got 2 off craigslist for $10. They smelled like apples and had been used to hold "apple essence" (even a year later for the one I didn't turn into a compost bin).

I used plastic due to ease of construction. I don't have much in the way of tools. It's starting to warp a bit around the "door" though, and I'm sure metal would be fine. These won't last forever either way.

Definitely punch holes. I thought I'd get away with the "door" not being a close fit and the too-large holes I made for the support bar, but I had methane-smelling wet compost until I punched holes all over mine. I could honestly do with larger holes-- think the tip of your pinky. I also put some old shelf brackets on the inside of mine to help stir.

Pro tip: many online guides recommend nails. This is very stupid. I did this with nails and suffered. I built a raised bed with nails and suffered. I got some fucking screws and saved literally half the time and suffering with all future projects.

>>903790
Do you think food-safe is necessary, or are plants not that picky?
What caused the headache with the nails? Were they coming loose or something?

Hi, what are some good organic pesticides to use around the garden? Thanks.

>>903806
marigolds and chives

>>903806
also oregano and mint

What's a good thing to buy a friend who is trying to get into /homegrown/?

>>903879

I'm currently trying to get away from using it, but for a beginner fertilizer is nice since there's a good chance they aren't working with soil that's been built up and they probably don't have much of a supply of organic matter on hand.

>>903879
A variety of hot pepper seeds because they're easy

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Howdy homegrown So i bought an onion from walmart and one day i noticed that an onion i had sitting in a basket in the kitchen started sprouting long green leaves. I decided to plant it in my backyard with no prior knowledge of gardening (i live in florida btw terrible sandy soil) after a few weeks its growing really well. Now im wondering how can i get more bulbs from just one onion. Will it sprout more bulbs? Seeds? Just cutting it in half and planting both halves? How do i produce more? ( pic relaed first planted)

>>904078
>Now im wondering how can i get more bulbs from just one onion.
I'm not sure about how onions produce seeds, but that bulb will definitely not directly yield more bulbs.

I believe you can, however, use the replenishing green tops of the onion in the same way as green onions or chives.

>>904142
>how onions produce seeds
They flower

>>903806
Against what pest?
>>903879
Ornamental plants or fruit and vegetables?

>>903344
I'm currently doing the RHS (Royal Horticultural Society) Level 2 theory course at college and went from little experience just an interest in horticulture and it's not a problem.

Agriculture is something else though, if you want to do that you'll want to do an agricultural course, even though arable farming is obviously horticultural the courses focus on different things.

>>903802
If you plan on eating what you fertilize with your compost, it'll have to be food safe. You end up eating whatever you put in that soil.

Yeah, the nails would slowly wiggle out with every hammer hit to the one next to it. By the end, I was playing whack-a-mole with them. Rain makes wood expand and contract when it dries, and this also slowly wiggles nails out.


>>903879
A small herb plant from home depot. If they don't kill it, move on to tomatoes.

>>903879
Pumpkins indoors

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Algae farm expanding. Slooooooowly filling Phacus jar with media.

>>904142
>>904078
I don't know exactly if it holds true for all cultivars, but I missed a few of my winter onions when harvesting last May, and in the meantime they did form "daughter bulbs", i.e. they propagated vegetatively

>>904339
I believe there are certain species of onions that tend to cluster bulbs similar to the way garlic does.

>>904334
What's the point here?

>>904357

Culturing algae

>>904369
For what purpose

>>904385

To learn how to culture it.

>>904391
Oh so just educational? Are you a student?

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Babby grapefruit day 2 after it hatched

Pretty sure it's a twin

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>>904392

Adult, 34. Yeah, educational.

Some of it is potential aquarium/microorganism feed (I'm growing an algae stock for tardigrades...which are neat!) feed. Some is ""edible/nutritious"" (spirulina).

They're experiments that are confined to 1 gallon jugs/jars each. I enjoy it. If other people don't care or think it's silly... they're welcome to think so. To each his own.

>>904397
idk man people on /an/ have pet slugs and pill bugs. Pet algae eating mites is pretty cool.

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>>904420

Yeah I know it's kind of a gray area between the boards. I don't feel like starting a new thread about algae growers because I don't think a lot of people do this or care. This thread has indoor growers, homegrowmen, which is effectively what I am doing (most everything in my stock has chloroplasts.) But I agree /an/ is very reasonable for this too.

I got the algae of pick related and I'm going to try to simulate this with a diagonal table+evaporation. Purdy.

>>904428
I wasn't suggesting you leave, just saying it's not weird, it's just a hobby

>>904394
interesting how since it's a twin the cotyledon didn't come out on the stem

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muh ghost peppers. a novelty really. I may work them into an animal repellent and some chili powder. I also have jalapeno, bell, cayenne, wax, and bannana peppers going from seed. My winter garden outside is doing well too, I will post some pics tmw, I think all I have are some showing the ramshackle fence I built and the lights. I will post it in a second.

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>>904500
this was taken in early October

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Common purslane and crystalline iceplant. Both from seed, I have some experience with succulents so I am hoping to container grow them and then also sow outdoors in the spring.

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>>904500
my other peppers are just babies. l to r: banana, cayenne, Hungarian wax, one bell, one jalapeno. I am overwintering 2 jalapeño, one bell and one habenero in my shed.

>>904428
Every time you post I want to ask why, and every time you give reasons that make me go "Yeah, that's pretty neat. Good for you, man." Tardigrades are the shit, too.

It's not like I really "feed" my family with my tiny garden. It's meditative and contemplative creating and cultivating of life. It's a healthy hobby, to say the very least.

>>904501
>>904500

That's really nice looking! I wonder if the lights attract more bugs (good or bad) to your plants...

>>904506
I really love purslane. I have a double-petalled variety I really need to sow already.

>>904521
I haven't noticed much in the way of bugs but it is getting much cooler here now. I have had some trouble with deer and rabbits. But a commercial animal repellent seems to have helped. I don't alwaya have the lights on but sometimes I like to sit out there. I designed a little seating area to the left of the pathway with tree stumps and such.

My first go at purslane. I remember seeing it growing volunteer (pretty much a weed) in my dads garden growing up in Illinois. The iceplant is a halophyte...which is interesting because it bioaccumulates salt and when it dies and releases its seed it releases its salt too. the salt chokes out any competitor plants and the iceplant grows unencumbered. Just interesting is all. seed and leaves both edible

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>>904501
zucchini, radish, romanesco. the romanesco needs to be thinned but I am waiting. sorry for the shit quality. I was smoking and it drifted in front of the camera

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>>904534
turnips, pea vines on the fence. the deer have given them hell.

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>>904537
igloo lettuce (needs thinned), waltham broccoli, it was storm damaged but I think I managed to save some of it. Spinach on the left was doing so so but seems to be doing better in recent days

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>>904542
muh little alcove. eventually the asian jasmine you can see along the fence will vine up the entire fence. There is another of these prolific plants behind the big stump.

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>>904544
my little path leading to my garden. I tried seeding dichondra repens after clearing out another non native but only weeds sprouted. Not sure what to do. Maybe a native sedum.

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>>904547
muh spooky forest adjacent the garden. ooooooo spoopy

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>>904549
oh. and more peas. the entire south fence I seeded with shitloads of peas

>>904554
the seed stock was shit. 50 percent germination rate even indoors when i was testing it out. but i had tons so i just went nuts and ended up with quite a few vines

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>>904515
my overwintering peppers. dont mind the mess. i need to clean. first time.ive done this. ive trimmed the two jalapeño and bell back. my shed is pretty constantly about 50 degrees or so F during the winter. as youll see i have no idea how to trim this.monstrous habenero plant back...

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>>904564
crazy habenero i am not sure how to trim. tips?

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>>904565
I would cut on one of the two red lines on the pic, because I like internodes to be close to each other.
That way if you want to change its "design" later, you're not stuck with tall stems which you can't cut in between, there's always a node to regrow from

>>904679
OK. Then that's what I will do anonymous stranger on the internet. Thanks for the tip friend.

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>>904679
I have lurked these threads for awhile. I have nothing to give you in return for your anonymous advice about my habenero. It is Christmas time in Christiandom. Have this rare santa in the spirit of that holiday. He is both secular and glass.

>>904686
>>904687
You're welcome!
Also, if you want shorter inter-nodes in the future (thus, more pepper for the same height), you can try to give it a little more light.

>>904720
sounds good. I have two windows in the shed with indirect sunlight. The plants are below and in front of the windows by a few feet.

>>903948 # >>904035 # >>904233 # >>904254 # >>904256 #
Thanks for the tips pals. First time posting here, yall are too kind

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How often should I water by pineapple?it's almost 4 years old. I was hoping it would flower this summer but some animal fucked it up when I had it outside so it lost many leaves. Now it's just a house plant but I really want it to flower. What should I do?

I live in southern Ontario

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I was considering growing pic related.
Can you regrow mushrooms from the edible part that you buy in the store or you need the "root" part exclusively?
I know mushrooms are relatively simple organisms and can grow from even the smallest parts, but I didn't find the answer for my question.

Do dried seeds go bad? How long do they last?
I noticed that a seed packet I had bought from a store about six months ago had a "best by:" date printed on it, listing this month.

>>905119
Yes they do
You must keep seeds in an airtight jar, and it would be a good idea to chuck in a sicilia bag (or whatever they're called) to absorb the moisture.
Then put the jar in your fridge. This'll help keep them longer.
But those seeds of yours may be already close to going bad, so perhaps just plant them in they're in season, or throw them out

>>905119
In extreme cases, seeds can last for thousands of years (Silene stenophylla, Phoenix dactylifera), or just for a few months (chestnut, hazelnut, oak). It depends on the conditions they are stored in, but generally they have maximum germination rates in their first year and they usually drop significantly by their second and third.

>>905132
>You must keep seeds in an airtight jar
Would an airtight plastic sandwich bag suffice?

im thinking about transferring to a junior college to study horticulure. what do you guys think? it has 3 greenhouses so even if the degree is worthless, i still get to fuck around with plants on a proffesional setting. and maybe itll help to become a park ranger or something so i can spend all my days in the woods

>>903344
hey bro. my growing experience is just from shit at home. i tried doing a business degree, but i just sucked at it. i just wanna fuck around with plants and trees. this is my post >>905157

i say if youre interested, go for it. i just wasted 28k to fail classes i hate.

>>903344
look up master gardener courses. My dad went through the program after retiring from his desk job on disability and wound up doing a lot of stuff around town. At the very least it'll open a door or two.

Any pepper growers here?
I'm thinking about growing some aji's like panca, amarillo and pineapple but I'm not sure which are the most rewarding and productive with the best taste.
Also what are some must have chinense cultivars to grow? I've got hab's, scotch bonnets, devils tongues and fatali's right now but are there any else?

>>905204
mustard habanero has recovered
>>902799

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Finally got a clementine orange to sprout! Most of the fruits are seedless, but I collected a few from the rare ones that do have some. Took about 3 weeks

>>905133
>and they usually drop significantly by their second and third
Then what's the point of seed banks?

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>>905204
My serranos are p nice

>>905296
Dang I've been looking for clementine seeds too. My grapefruit took about 3 weeks also

>>905439
Yeah, looking back now, the 5 or so seeds were from like one fruit, maybe two, out of the 40 or so I went through in the last couple weeks

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>>904525
I looked up crystalline iceplants-- that's the neatest shit.

Your garden looks great bro! Sorry about your deer issue.


>>904921
Water when it gets dry. Pro tip: Fertilize it and get some stuck in the little crannies between leaves-- that's where it'll absorb the most. Get a bigger pot too.


>>904961
You need spores to grow mushrooms. Long story short, you could theoretically grow them from FRESH grocery store mushrooms, but as soon as they've been in the plastic tub for a few days, the spores will release and die. Just google growing mushrooms and get a kit to start.

>>905119
>>905133
>>905435
Different seeds are viable for different lengths of time. Onions are notorious for being shit after one year, but some can be sown years later to some success. Seed banks, like a true bank, trade and exchange seeds and don't just sit on the same pile, so fresh ones will be supplied.

>>905136
Yes it should suffice
The only reason I personally wouldn't do this is because it might get crushed by something else.
But if you can make sure that won't happen, go ahead, the concept is all the same

>>905691
>You need spores to grow mushrooms. Long story short, you could theoretically grow them from FRESH grocery store mushrooms, but as soon as they've been in the plastic tub for a few days, the spores will release and die. Just google growing mushrooms and get a kit to start.

Thank you.
So I guess that means no.
I just like the idea of regrowing stuff that I eat, it's quite literally like having your cake and eating your cake. Kit would defeat the purpouse.

>>905691
>Get a bigger pot too.
There's no point, the root ball isn't very big on pineapples

>>905883
That plant is tiny, unless you want a pineapple the size of a baseball, I'd suggest getting a bigger pot to encourage all around growth.

All mine live right in the ground, so IDK what their roots look like. I have 4 out front-- my oldest one gave me a pineapple after ~5 years. They're like 2-3 feet across when healthy and full grown.

>>905890
I'm just doing it as a hobby, I can't reasonably have a much bigger pot than that and keep the plant inside

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Hey , can anyone identify this delicious lettuce? I had a mixed lettuce seed bag
And have long since lost it. Its growing very well in this chilly weather. Im in north texas btw

>>906057
Here we call it arugala, but it has other regional names

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So I was missing a catfish from my aquarium for a few weeks. Just found him yesterday. Poor guy fought hard for those 7".

>>906140
Surprised a racoon didn't walk away with it

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One of my possibly Solanum pimpinellifolium (or highly admixed) volunteer tomatoes I did a germination test with in September and have been keeping under grow light 24/7 for a while now is starting to flower now at around 30-40cm height!
Probably won't be early enough for a Christmas crop, but a small January harvest would be fine nonetheless

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>>906183

I live pretty deep in Suburbia, and my dog murders all types of flora.

>>906267

My puppy does that too. She took down an entire wall of a raised bed (thick wood, which I am going to replace with stone hopefully.)

She was fostered by some people who gave her plastic water bottles to play with, so now any plastic pots are fair game. And she is also a puppy and likes to trash things anyway.

>>906267
>>906271

Also, what's the white stuff in your pic? (not the pipes)

>>906273

Perlite. It's just a growing medium that holds the plants up and doesn't trap water in an aquaponic/hydroponic system.

>>906267

Holy Christ, I meant fauna.

>>906071
>>906057
that's kale

Did we finally kill bugguy?

>>906349

He was the guy with the ferns, right? In Norway or some shit?

>>906351
The fern wall and intense autism

>>906371

I've never been a permanent fixture of 4chan, much less /homegrown/, but the few conversations I had with him were interesting and informative. This was back in /homegrown/ 5 or 10, though, so he might have started getting more comfortable showing people what an anti social creep he could be. That's just tripfags in general, though.

>>906375
my only knock on him is he is a janitor that regularly deletes comments that disagree with him

>>906376

Oh, yeah. That'll do it.

My area's about to get its first below-freezing night of the winter. How well can plants handle that? Do they have any mechanisms to resist cold?

I can bring my potted plants in that night, but what about my garden plants? Anything I can do to help them?
I've still got some unripe tomatoes growing, will freezing temperatures fuck them up?

It's supposed to be about 30F/-1C

>>906503
what plants anon? peas and leafy greens like kale and lettuce should survive, tomatoes, peppers, ect. will die. you can drape a blanket over them, or a foam bucket but if its for an extended period theyre rip

>>906057
red russian kale anon. its very cheap online, couple bucks a packet. if you plant a good amount of it in a garden and let some go to seed it will plant itself next season.

>>906518
Tomato plants with a bunch of green tomatoes on them, sweet potatoes that I'm about to pull from the ground anyway, a couple underdeveloped bell pepper plants, and a bean vine.

How long can a blanket keep them warm? It's just for one night.

>>906523

All night, dude. Get a few jugs of water, too, to help store heat. If you're really stressing out, throw a small space heater under there.

>>906349

Is plont gone too?

>>906808
They're the same retard

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>>906853
You're a bug guy

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Wow, cutting mature leafs off my lemon sappling has definitely encouraged it to make more branches. It also looks like some newer leaves are maturing at a much smaller size

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Babby siamese twin grapefruit sprouting first leaves

>>906884
I'm considering murdering one of the twins because I don't have another pot for the second. Should i just let them grow together for a while in this pot?

>>906887

kill one

>>906887
mail me the other one!

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>>907083
this guy every tiem

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How do I deal with all of these fuckers?

>>906887

Stick a ruler in the dirt and make it a 5 inch death race

>>906523
everything but bean will be kill within 3 days

report back on if im rightor not

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>spent like $30 ordering and trying to grow various Chilli seeds in the last year
>took care of them watering them multiple times in the summer in mini hotboxes to get them to germinate
>germinated but never sprouted trying to plant them in soil
>buy a few plants from a Hardware store for $6 each a week ago
>Asian Caysan already has a Chilli Growing and the Trinidad Scorpion isn't far off

Used to think I was capable of growing shit until It came to Chilli plants, either dodgy seeds or I didn't take the instructions too literally.

>>907190
probably dodgy seeds, or a random soil/watering. Usually they're very easy to grow

>>904428
It's cool - keep telling us how you're getting along.

>>907190
Chillies are easy af so you must have done something wrong

>>907151
5inches is a lot, I'll do a 10cm race though that's an okay idea

>>904397

Can you post your tech for growing the spirulina?

I'm overwintering pepper plants and a lemon tree inside? How do I keep my cat away from them?

>>907301
I heard lavender oil could repulse cats, I don't know how effective it is

>>907185
How much cold can beans tolerate?

>>907083
Where do u live?

>>907326
A frost will kill them but 10C at night shouldn't be a problem

>>907337
Frost meaning below freezing, right? Because the forecast says I've got a -1C night coming up.

>>907341
Yeah below zero means frost

>>907207
>>907232
You would think so but literally everything else I've tried to grow I had NO issues with aside from the odd bug infestation. I'm going with dodgy seeds, I don't look like a dumbass that way.

>>907207
>>907232
Meh, Capsicum in general might be very easy in hot climates, but here where it's cooler you have to start indoors in February, work with grow lights, heat a lot more so it's >22°C, then plant them out in May. Even with those precautions, the first ripe ones won't appear before mid-August so the season is rather short
But yeah I did bell peppers which are supposed to be slightly later, but starting conditions shouldn't be any different for hot and small varieties

>>907387
>but here where it's cooler you have to start indoors in February, work with grow lights, heat a lot more so it's >22°C, then plant them out in May.
You literally don't. My serrano flowers by my window in mid January and I'm in southern Ontario.
This sounds like some autism tier bugguy post

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>>907391
I'm the Rhinefag actually, so I'm about a whopping 8° latitude north of you, assuming you're around Detroit.
Trust me, it makes a lot of difference in sunlight, especially in winter, the sun comes up very low here if at all, as there's lots of overcast year-round thanks to the Atlatnic ocean influence (only ~1930h sunshine per year on average), while you, despite being colder, enjoy Rome-tier insolation
>tfw constant ice fog and -2°C for the last few days, almost slipped my ass on the stairs outside

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>>907402
I'm more near Toronto on the north west shore of lake Ontario. Around 43.5°N

Right now we get about 9 hours of daylight

>>907409
>tfw there are provincial electoral districts in Ontario that are bigger than Germany

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>>907409
8.16 hours now here, of which on average about 1-2 are actual sun
This is my view right now
But anyway yeah, I'll start peppers even earlier this year, because when I placed them outside in May, they were all still tiny as fuck

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>>907420
Here the plants back in May

>>907422
I just keep my serrano potted. 3 years old now and has probably produced a kilo of peppers

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First successfully rooted fig cutting, just doing the basic plant stick in dirt method. Also got a couple grape cuttings going

>>907440
Please mail me a fig cutting

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Other people who germinated avocados, how long did it take?

Southern Cali fag here. I'm interested in growing a few pomegranate trees. I have a few questions. I'm a plant noob.
Should I grow from store seeds or biy a sapling?
What's a reasonable price for a pome sapling?
My patio is small, can I grow this tree in my room?

>>907537
Buy sapling, growing a tree from seed takes a very long time.

>>907538
I'll just do both haha.
What's a reasonable price? I haven't gone to an actual nursery but saw a dude selling them at 80$ a tree at a swapmeet

>>907547
The Rhineland anon here has germinated pomegranate seeds I believe

>>907537
>My patio is small, can I grow this tree in my room?
Just keep it in a small pot. Getting it to produce will be harder, but the plant will live and grow okay.

>>907547
anywhere from $50-$300 depending on the maturity of the tree

for $80 the tree should be 5-6 feet tall

>>907326
i think they can go down to 20 degrees in freedom units

>>907441
You got anything to trade? Plant wise

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I recently bought some dwarf bean seeds today, which I've read are a relatively simple summer crop. Just reading the back of the packet though, it's saying for the specific region I live (southern Australia), it may be too early to plant them, where planting in spring would be more suitable. I feel like I should be fine planting them now though. Any recommendations?

>>907663
I'll add that I'm able to provide ample shade if need be

>>907556
Yes, and the one I planted in the garden has become 4x as large as the ones I kept in generous pots and even fertilised
Will probably take a few years even for the former one though to produce, and in my climate won't probably make huge fruit. They should grow about twice as fast in SoCal I'd guess

>>907643
Serrano peppers, some weird gourd seeds. None of my citrus are big enough to take cuttings yet

>>907739
Pomegranate will survive winters?

>>907784

Definitely

>>907783
Hmm I care about neither, how do you want to go about receiving fig cuttings?

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>>907784
I'm in 8a but have them seen rated 6b, so I guess it'll work, plus it's on a south-facing, heat retaining wall.
Of course this only applies to ground planting so don't leave pots outside
Pic was from mid-November, now all the leaves have dropped

>>907783
Can't you just ask around your neighbourhood? Figs need to be pruned every now and then anyway (usually when their leaves are down, so now)

>>907854
Via drone please

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The weak should fear the strong.

>>907904
damnit, idk why it's upside down.

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>>907402
Where are you from exactly, I'm starting a garden near Mannheim next year.

Any hints for the region? How many Wineyards do you own btw ?

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>>907926
A bit more north, Rheinhessen region. Yes I do have vine growers in the family

>>907904
looking good straya

>>902204
Did you try scarring them?

>>903516
This lol

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Just found this in my worm bin, anyone know what it is?
It's got a blue sheen to it and is much larger than the other worms.

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>>908396
Size comparison

>>908399
>>908396
Looks like fish bait

Cornbro here, for those of you who were in these threads throughout the summer. I'm making some posole with some corn that I grew. I'm going to start another thread in /ck/ because this involves cooking, but now that I've decided that this goes online, expect updates. I'm nixtamalizing the corn right now - i.e. turning it into hominy - using a more traditional method.

Nixtamalization is something that those of you who grow any sort of "field" corn should look up.

Top pic is one of the ~7 1/2lb pork butts I bbqed last night with most of it pulled this morning. It's all going into the posole. Middle pic is the fire box in my bbq pit. I was taking the ash and putting it through a sieve to get the charcoal and anything else that was in there out. Bottom pic is corn mixed with the ash and some water. It is roughly 1 gallon corn to 1 gallon ash, and enough water to where it is all fluid and can be easily stirred. More water is needed than that, as nixtamalizing corn causes it to soak up moisture and expand. That's a ~4+ gallon pot, and I've already had to add more water as the corn is expanding rather rapidly. It will take a total of 3-5 hours of simmering, until the hulls are easily coming off, then I rinse the shit out of it.

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>>908402
Forgot the pic.

>>907409
ottawa bro here

>>908402
>/ck/
>involves cooking
I got some news for you son...

>>908427
Sup goy

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>>908403
>mixing your food with ash

what I want to know is how someone even came up with this

>>908537
Or slack lime, for that matter. But the funny thing is that a lot of the natives would have died off from pellegra if they didn't mix their corn with things like ash or slack lime.

>>908506
goy ?

>>908689
What university did you go to?

is there anything you can do to eliminate black bacteria spots on pepper plants? been trimming the spotted leaves but it always comes back on the new leaves.

>>908817
Change the soil

>>908719
none, you ?

>>908689
>>909003
>" ?"
Found the frog

>>908537
i mean, most of them probably cooked food in the fire and ash and got a taste for it. it's especially common to cook starchy pastes into primitive breads (like bannock and etc) directly on the coals.

>>908921
It's only affecting one or two plants out of 20 and they all have the same soil mix though

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Rate my seeder

>>909003
I graduated from Queen's in 2013

>>909008
Ottawa is a bilingual city

>>907420
View of what?

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>>909189
Out into the garden. Thankfully after almost 5 days the ice fog has cleared up now and we're finally in the plus temps again
>>909128
Strayan/10
Memes aside, it's either a bit too early for tomatoes (Northern hemisphere) or a bit too late (Straya and the likes where it's mid-June now), unless you're in the tropics of course
Then again I'm at 50°N and currently doing a currant tomato under grow light, and it has started to flower a few days ago, now the first one is reaching full bloom, so I'm expecting a February harvest at this point

Anyone know of natural ways to keep cats out of a garden?

>>909254
Do the cats have to live?

>>909128
Is that like a repurposed ice cube tray or something, or can you buy plastic trays like that for the purpose of sprouting seedlings?

>>909254
Feed your mice with weed lmao. I heard that cats stay high forever, so they'll never leave the comfort of their couch again.

Or a dog

>>909254
Are they poopiing in it?

>>902779

did you take a green cutting or a woody cutting?

is it staying warm (70F+) ?

>>909349
Technically no, but I'd feel terrible killing it
>>909383
Yes and pissing I'm sure

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My lemon is dying. Could the temperature in the room be too high? Or the watering is not enough?

>>908537
>>908402
You don't actually use ash, you use lime. Ash + water = potash lye. You want lime + water = hydrated lime/slack lime.

I make nixtamal with my corn every year for tortillas.

>>909435
Green, planted in an attempt to salvage the vine after rats chewed through the base of it.

It did end up sprouting little vine nubs (by which point all but three leaves had yellowed and fallen off) and I put it in soil.
So far it's not dead.

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>>909518
habe cansur ?

>>909254
Buy a dog that will chase them away.
If you're worried about the dog trampling the garden, maybe buy some sort of motion detector that will just play the sound of a dog barking whenever something gets near.

Do the cats WANT to get in there, or do they just wander inside? If the latter, maybe just put a roll of chickenwire up around the perimeter, and the cats won't bother climbing it.
If the former, do the same but hook the chickenwire up to an electric fence unit built for pet deterrence, and turn it on whenever you're not out there.

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>>909133
in what though?

>>909569
root nubs*

>>909577
Majored in memes

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>>909582
>>909577

>>909224
Yeah, I'm in the tropics (Brazil). I'm just starting to learn how to sprout and I don't know much about climate changes and stuff (as there aren't many where I live). We have a good consistent amout of daylight here and the temperature is also consistent through the year.

>>909350
It's made for sprouting, they're very cheap and useful, but I suppose you could use ice cube trays with a little hole in the bottom too.

>>909518
http://www.gardeningknowhow.com/plant-problems/environmental/what-causes-brown-edges-on-leaves-of-plant.htm

Could be lots of things.

>>909588
Thank you.

>>909586
>spurdo
>related to pedobear
But that's wrong.

>>909587
Yeah, if you're in tropical area you don't have to worry about timing shit according to the seasons, but you probably have other stuff to worry about, as the lack of frost means that nasty insects etc aren't killed in winter - it has all its ups and downs, as much as I despise winter, it at least means most nasty tropical disease-carrying organisms can't thrive here

>>909133
according to statistics you're an Indian or Chinese male ...that or white female

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2wWTadsBDA

What's your dream setup?

>>909737
Queens is like 80% white kid

>this thread
hurrdurr i did university im better

>>909752
Jesus, defenetly not this. This seems like to much work and expensive, I wouldn't want this. My dream system is a fully self sustaining ecosystem, that has to electrical or anything like that involved. Permaculture not internet.

>>909518
Yellow leaves=low iron?

>>909822
I just asked another anon from Ontario what school he went to

>>909826
Typically yes

>>909822
Le American anti-intellectualism meme

>>909715
Fuck, so many bugs, dude. My soil is pretty poor too, so these are the topics I'm studying the most right now, soil preparation and pest control.

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Remove fungus gnats

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>>902133
What plant is this?

>>909952
Buy a fluorescent light fixture. They're only 20-30 bucks. You'll be getting much better results out of it.

>>909993
Bamboo

>>909993
>>910003
More specifically Lucky Bamboo.

>>910002
maybe but what i have now is working fine i think. any slowness of growth is due to other first time mistakes like overwatering and not repotting soon enough.

>>910007
Well it's going to cause you problems in the long run. See how far those nodes on the plant are spread apart? Those are either going spread out plants when theyre bigger.

>>910015
which plants? most of them are quite bushy, the only ones that seem a bit leggy to me are the front left tabasco and the back middle cayenne and that's because they've had a lot of bacteria spotted leaves that have been trimmed.

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>>910016
Nm i was wrong.


Also heres a jalapeno ive been nursing back to health.

>>910020
i have a jalapeno from this summer that's still hanging on. we'll see if it survives the winter though.

>>910022
Its 8f here nothings alive outside .

I just topped a plant and the core of the stalk was brown instead of green on the inside. Is this normal?

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>>910220
What kind of plant? It is just turning woody like a mature tree. My pepper did the same thing and it's fine

>>910229
Pepper. It just seemed like a decaying brown as opposed to a woody brown but who knows

A question to the anons who are growing figs:

does the fig that sprouts from the seed produces the same fruits as the original plant or are they random in quality (like apples from seed)?

sorry for my english, can't figure a way to explain it better

>>910364
in English you would just say "are the seeds true to the parent?"

It's still an esoteric horticultural term. The way you described it is fine. Sorry, I can't answer your question though.

>>910364
Although it is possible to grow fig from seed it is not recommended unless breeding new cultivars. ... Additionally, only some seeds will produce female trees with edible fruit while the others will produce male fig trees with small inedible fruit. Figs contain many small fruits and seeds.

>>910364
Nah, to my knowledge, it'll be pretty much random (I learnt that too late myself)

Does anyone have any good recipes with green tomatoes? I fear the air outside has become too cold to allow my tomatoes to fully ripen.

>>910432
You can ripen them inside dude. Put them all in a closed container or bag with a banana and they should ripen

>>910449
Is lighting an issue? I've heard of this trick being used with paper bags.

>>910432
>being able to harvest outside tomatoes in mid-December
Wew, somewhat jelly, I picked the last ones a month ago. Anyway, what I did is use a climacteric fruit (quince in my case, but apples work too) that produces ethene gas and put it together with the still unripe tomatoes into a sort of gas chamber (some plastic planting pot covered with a kitchen towel), this way they eventually became red after 1-2 weeks

>>910465
I'm in south Texas, temps are still just in the 40F range even at night. I don't think my area gets into serious winter until January.

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>>910467
Weather is super weird here (Upper Rhine area, 50°N), Monday through Thursday we had ice fog and constant frost (temps mostly hovering between -1 and -3°C), Friday the fog cleared and we got into the positives again, Saturday was sunny and slightly milder, while today (Sunday) it was overcast but even warmer with a high of +10°C (low +5) which finally allowed me to do some gardening again, so I pruned back the quince tree heavily which was long overdue.
Last weeks' frosts apparently haven't even been strong enough to kill back the stupid nettles, still thriving all over the place unfortunately

>>910462
Idk maybe but I did it in a translucent plastic bag

what would leaves that are browning/decaying from the tips indicate?

>>910608
Too much water or too little water is a possibility.

Are there any methods for finding underground sweet potatoes that don't risk puncturing them with a gardening tool, besides just uprooting the ground with your hands?

Pomegranate guy here again. I'm in my fifth day of having my seeds in a ziploc bag (after watching this faggo's video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggxgV5cj3XQ) but I'm noticing some black spots on the wet paper towel.
Should I be concerned and switch out the paper towel? Or will my seeds be unharmed?

>>910465
>german anon
>gas chamber
wew

>>910487
Could you help me with pruning my apple tree? I'll post a picture in one or two days. Maybe it's beyond saving though.

>>910701
I've seen this issue on my seeds as well, and Google only returns results for white mold on seeds.

If no information turns up, you could always switch out the paper towel anyway, just in case. Better safe than sorry and all that.

>>910707
Lel, I don't have much experience with that either, simply went ahead and did it based on how I thought it could work, and by comparing to other fruit trees in the area. Maybe I overdid it and won't have flowers/fruits next year, IDK.
But basically, you want to remove weak, long shoots that came from low light (self shading), twigs that grow inwards and generally whatever is too dense/in each other's way, the rest I simply reduced by about half, then again it was 3 years or so since it was last pruned, so I did a bit more radically

>>910707

Pro-Pruner here, post pics

>>910728
ALright, thank you anon!

I live in Florida and have been trying to grow japanese eggplants, basil, and rosemary. I noticed my Basil stalks are turning a woody brown color, and my eggplant has stopped growing vertically and instead is growing wider.

Should I be pruning the eggplant and pinching off/killing any eggplant flowers and growths?

And what's going on with my basil? My grandfather thinks I overwatered it, but I've had this plant for nearly a year now and only water it every other day

>>910938
I don't know about the eggplant, I guess it depends how you want it to grow. Why does the wide growing bother you?
For the basil, I think you've got two options : either you indeed overwatered it, and the foot is rotting/softening. Either it's normal ageing (if it's turning woody also in texture and not only in color, it's rather this option). But generally it happens rather lately in the growing.

Do lucky bamboo plants need rocks inside the container?
Also I noticed one of them has severe blackening at the bottom (I think this is necrosis), if I remove it with a sharp scissor will the plant be okay? It already has some new roots at the top green part.

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>>910938
Aren't the stems simply going woody? Happens after a while

>>910944
I suppose it's just limited room, I'm going to start expanding into other fruit bearing trees and I'm just concerned it'll overtake the limited space I have.

>>910964
This is exactly what they're doing. Should I not be concerned about it then?

>>910969
Then you may want to prune the branches you don't want, but you'll have less fruits.
About the woody stem, there's nothing to do.

>>910951
Post pics?
What's the container like, is it only water or real soil?

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>>910969
Nah it's normal, just prune it regularly so it doesn't flower
Here an even more advanced example

>>903749
How old are they?
Also, how'd you start them?

What is the optimal setup for growing viney plants like watermelon and tomato? And what about sweet potato, how do I make the most of my square meter with them?

>>911412
Tomatoes you want to stake upward to keep the fruit off the ground? Watermelon just grow on a long vine along the ground

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>>910701
Why don't you just plant them in the soil?
I planted those in the pic about ten days ago

>>911424
Yes, it would be best to have them standing up, but staking the bigger branches is a lot of work and takes a lot of space.

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>>911244
Sprouted mid July 2015, so at the time of the pic, just short of 1 year 4 months. Back then I used the paper towel + sealed plastic bag method, but it took 2 months and only 1 out of the 6 seeds sprouted at all, I guess I fried the reminder of them (had put them on a dark outside window sill and it was up to +40°C here that summer at regular air temp, so probably 60-70 on there)
Keep in mind it's a cool and dark climate here so there's very little growth between October and April even though I do a warm, indors wintering near a SW window, so depending on where you live things might go a lot faster.
Oh and right now, they're finally starting to branch near the cuts after I pruned them

What worked much better and quicker were clementines (>>905296), even though I started them not too long ago now in winter, so 8-9 instead of 15-16 daylight hours, but it still worked faster because I used the radiator method (planter with regular potting soil, covered with plastic bag, placed on radiator by the winter for a constant ~30°C)

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>>911424
Even in the case of watermelons, it's not uncommon to place something under the growing fruits to keep off soil moisture

>>911244
>>911527
Forgot to add that I did carefully remove the outer shell of each seed in both cases

>>911530
Placing something under them to keep them off the ground is great for preventing isopod damage.

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any one do mushrooms ?

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What are the best way to kill slugs and earwigs , like home brew ways ?.

>my garden now

>>911733
scissors and just genocide them

>>911878
this desu, make sure to leave the corpses as a reminder for the others

>>902133
How do I tell the difference between a weed and a plant?
I lied to this lady about having experience gardening and now she's paying me to do her garden.

>>911733
I've read that a bowl of beer makes a great trap for slugs. Not sure if they'll drown in it, but it'll keep them there until you can check it and kill them manually.

>>912104
"Weed" is technically a slang term for any plant that isn't wanted, so there aren't any catch-all traits that can be used to identify them other than just knowing you don't want that particular kind of plant growing there.
Here's a page with a bunch of pictures of plants commonly thought of as weeds, though: http://www.bhg.com/gardening/pests/insects-diseases-weeds/types-of-weeds/

It'd probably be easiest for you to just learn what plants she's growing on purpose, and then pull up everything that isn't those.

>>912107
Thanks a lot anon.
Is there anything I need to be careful of when trimming back small trees?
This board is great.

>>902133
How would I go about obtaining coca seeds?

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Hey Pruners-friendos,

Here's my Apple tree that needs pruning. As I said it is quite neglected. I guess I have to cut off some of the bigger branches since its just too much. But which ones?

The Apples are tiny and go bad before they ripe.

I'll also post my other two apple trees, but I think they are fine.

>>912105
Beer traps work but they will attract the snails to your place. So don't place them close to your salad but somewhere else. Your neighbors will be happy though, as you lure their snails away.

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The other two. They were clearly pruned a few years ago to grow that way. I guess I'll just cut away the low branches.

>>912173
The NotPro here, but in any case I'd take off that shoot which comes from near the bottom of the stem
>The Apples are tiny and go bad before they ripe.
Apples in general should be thinned out massively shortly after flowering, I'm hearing different rates probably depending on the variety in question and other factors, but if you hadn't done any of that this year and there were lots of tiny fruits then you'll probably have a low crop year to follow anyway, as apples tend to alternate, even more so if not thinned the year before

>>904823
You shouldn't thank the last guy, he's meming you.

What's a good home brew solution to getting rid of fungus gnats?

>>912175
>They were clearly pruned a few years ago to grow that way
why though

>>912173
Do the opposite of the ones you have that are already pruned. You want them to spread out, so take the ones that are too close to vertical near the middle (aside from like one) so that the overall profile of the tree remains broad.

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>>912173

this one is really shit, i did my best from the 2D photo (holograms WHEN?)

and like >>912179 said apples should be thinned out massively after flowering

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PROpruner anon here and there >>912272

>>912175
i would cut even another one of the inner trio beside the middle branch, but it depends which one is the branch who spreads out more

like >>912257 said, you want them to spread out (and possibly not be too high)

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>>912272
>>912275
Thanks for the amazing info Mr. ProPruner. With pictures and everything. I'm happy.

Picture is another angle, not 3D though.

>>912340
NonPro again (German Rhinelander), but curious as to where you live, I doubt you're the South Texan I replied to earlier, your landscape kinda looks more similar to here (same cloudy brown/grey snowless depressing winter) and you have that typical West/Central Euro chain link fence (also noice Euonymus japonicus(?) in the background), so you're German too, or Britain/BeNeLux/Northern France?

>>912340

PRO here, glad to be of help
let us know how it goes next summer

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>>912357
I'm the guy from Mannheim. I asked you if you have a vineyard earlier. Thanks for your advice too

You guessed right welcome to the Rheingraben. Not cold enough for snow, not sunny enough to enjoy the weather. Today was nice though.

The tree on the right is an Ilex (Stechpalme), I did cut some branches today as Christmas decoration. Funny how they stay completely white of they get no light

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>>912376
Sché dass isch dohie nèt de ònsische fun de Gejend sinn...
Ah, didn't know there were variegated cultivars of that too, as side note we only get ca. 500mm rain/year here so I guess that's why Ilex aquifolium actually has a distribution hole here
And while I personally don't have a whole vineyard, I do have a plant that I guided along my balcony over the last summer, it has reached about 4/5 of where I want it to go ultimately in just one season

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I killed one of my twin grapefruit. They raced to 5cm.

Also why is all the new growth on my lemon sapling yellow? Every new leaf has a tint of yellow

>>912788
>gore on a blue board

>>912791

don't overwater

>>912791
The yellow leaves will turn into lemons.

>>912935
I don't

>>912791
Depends on the kind of yellow, probably nutrient deficiency. Could be plain old nitrogen.

>>913136
All i have is some tomato fertiliser
Maybe I'll mix a bit of that in amd see if things improve. It only seems to be yellow on new growth only at the top of the plant. There are new leaves on lower stems that are fine but any new leaves out the top turn yellow

>>913168
That's not nitrogen deficiency then, that shows up in the opposite pattern. Could be sulfur, if the yellowness is even, or phosphorus if it's not, in which case you'll get necrosis after a short while. If the yellowing is between the veins, it could be iron.

>>913175
I'll post a pic later when I'm home but it seems to be just a yellow hue around the edges of new leaves on top

>>913188
That's phosphorus. Just about any fertilizer should do you good, but be aware that watering will wash it right away.

>>913175
Im looking at pictures and it is very similar to sulfur deficiency. How do i increase sulfur? Should I but another fertilizer?

>>913191
Read on the packaging for the fertilizer you have. Is there sulphur? If not, go find a fertilizer that does have some.