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HOMEGROWMEN 67 - VANCOUVER PLANT WRANGLER EDITION

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that's right folks, I'm taking over the Homegrowmen General. That's right, it's a fucking mutiny.

Here's all that shit you're used to

Companion Planting - Raised Beds - Vertical Gardening - Square Foot Gardening - Polyculture - Composting - Mulching - Vermiculture - Espalier - Fungiculture - Aquaponics - Greenhouses - Cold Frames - Hot Boxes - Polytunnels - Forest Gardening - Aquaculture

Resources:

Murray Hallam’s Aquaponics: (sample: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYR9s6chrI0) [Embed]

-Aquaponics Secrets DVD
-Aquaponics Made Easy DVD
-DIY Aquaponics DVD (Aquaponics The First 12 Months And Aquaponics DIY DVD)

Backyard Aquaponics:
https://kat.cr/backyard-aquaponics-t4385398.html

400+ PDF BOOKS ON GARDENING:
https://kat.cr/400-pdf-books-on-gardening-t3324399.html

Youtube channel Growingyourgreens, tons of videos on almost every single gardening subject:
https://www.youtube.com/user/growingyourgreens

Ollas clay pot watering system:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkNxACJ9vPI [Embed]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvKq5geEM-A [Embed]
USA Time of Year Planting Guide,
http://www.motherearthnews.com/organic-gardening/what-to-plant-now-zl0z0903zalt.aspx

Food preservation:
http://nchfp.uga.edu/
https://kat.cr/complete-book-of-home-preserving-pdf-gooner-t10069401.html
https://kat.cr/canning-and-preserving-all-in-one-for-dummies-2011-mantesh-t5998098.html
http://www.allamerican-chefsdesign.com/admin/FileUploads/Product_49.pdf

Mushrooms (culinary and psychoactive):
https://kat.cr/usearch/Stamets/

Mother Earth News' Vegetable Garden Planner program (full version requires yearly subscription $fee):
http://www.motherearthnews.com/garden-planner/vegetable-garden-planner.aspx

Tons of Gardening/Farming PDFs:
http://www.fastonline.org/?page_id=35
Aquaponics:
http://www.fastonline.org/?page_id=32
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My forest of potatoes is stealing sunlight from everything else around it. If no one else is going to go out there and making fucking potatoes great again, I will.
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>>823068
I used to have five kale plants, but three of them got aphids. Kale produce a compound that fights aphids and probably gives the kale its bitter manly flavor. Well if my kale ain't making enough of that noxious chemical, I'm getting rid of it. So now I have 2 kale left, and kale evolution takes another giant leap forward.
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>>823071
My firstborn son, the heir to my kingdom of plants. He's trying to give my tomatoes blight by getting their leaves wet, the little fucker.

I'm losing patience with the jerusalem artichoke. By now I had hoped they would be so tall that I would have to get a zoning exemption.
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>>823073
why'd you give your kid a bowl cut, are you raising it to be a monk?
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>>823073
My tomatoes collapsed their cage. By now the giant fuckers I'm growing are so heavy that mere man-made materials can no longer support them.

Two green ones dropped off in the collapse and I picked three red ones. Green tomatoes are like red tomatoes but hard and sour, like me.
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>>823076
>>823080
plont, you dense cancerous lump. You really are the king of shitposters. My son is one year old and has never had a haircut.

I teach him about plants so he'll be self sufficient. The sooner I don't have to feed him anymore, the better.

He's eating Vaccinium parvifolium, known to plebs as "red huckleberry." Like dozens of berry species, it's native to Vancouver. I would never buy berries or grow my own, because 96% of my province is nothing but rocks, trees and berries.
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>>823080
What do you do to prevent your beef tomatoes from popping open before ripening? Happened all the time last year, no matter if rain-protected or not (and it was a dry summer anyway), so this year I didn't even bother with such varieties this year, only having cherries and San Marzanos (former yielded first ripe ones in early July, latter only started a few days ago)
Curious as I'm the Rhineland fag, so we should have pretty much the same climate and latitude as in the Murrican/Leafian PNW area (I'm 50°N) therefore similar growing conditions
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>>823093
If it's popping, it's too much water. Mulch your tomatoes and water far less often. Neglecting your plants makes them strong.
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>>823098
K, might consider that, because I also had a few of my cherrolas pop so far this season(really small percentage though, like less than 1 in 10)
Was alwyas under the impression that tomatoes need relatively much water (I don't really drown them as I know almost no plant aside from water lilies etc likes that and I never re-water when the top is still wet), but I guess I'll reduce it further and see what it does
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>>823088
>has never had a haircut.
well there's your problem.

lol'd at the thomas the dank engine shirt, you should get a matching one.
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>>823102
I'm concerned a haircut will rob him of his sampson-like strength. Since he's small, he's more like bam-bam. Where he goes, destruction follows.
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>>823071
Kale has a powerful will to live.
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>>823108
when will you grand him the Mjölnir?
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>>823108
>>823102
I like watching you two talk. But not in a weird way.
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>>823116
Listen, plont-for-brains. Seven eighths of the the time I have no idea what you're talking about, and I'm not a stupid man.

I'm going back into the wild to drag more pictures home. I'll try to run over a Pokemon Go player for you lot.

Like I said, this is the Vancouver Plant Wrangler edition of Homegrowmen, so I'll be back.
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Also another update on my melon. Growth is slowing down again despite warm humid weather
Then again it is supposed to be a small-fruited variety adapted to cooler climates ("Red Star F1"), so maybe it's already getting ready to pick soon
Which I wouldn't mind, as I don't even want some ridiculous 20kg (or bigger) bomb, wouldn't be able to eat such a monster in time even when shared with 4 others. So if it maxes out at 3-4kg that'd be perfect
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>>823118
trust me, that's because of vancouver plant wrangler. plot is an unpleasant dickweed wherever he goes.
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rate my pepper. capsicum frutescens some asian variety. this one is the only one with this shape
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>>823093
>>823098
>>823101

It isn't that it is too much water but inconsistent watering. Like a dry spell then a wet spell will do that almost instantly. Consistent watering normally won't cause that to happen.
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>>823120
Pokémon GO is perhaps the best thing that has happened to a generation of kids that were watched too much and taught too little. A video game that makes people see the world is better than the video games that they play alone in their homes.

>>823123
>this meme
By god you're a cancerous redditor. Just because you chanced to be right about something in the last thread doesn't mean you need to get cocky.
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>no garden
>left my chickens with family when I moved for work
>just found out my new apartment will have a patio
Time to invest in some pots.
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>>823154
that imagine is from before reddit even was a thing lol.
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>>823158
Yeah, but that incorrect usage of the word "meme" isn't.
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I haven't posted here in a while because I found a new group of internet friends that I only recently alienated myself from. I started building an aquaponics setup. Here are the pics.
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>>823202
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When making a hegulkultur should I put manure over the compost or reverse?
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>>823203

I'm not a plumber, but this is working out pretty decent.
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>>823205
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>>823200
>I haven't posted here in a while because I found a new group of internet friends that I only recently alienated myself from.
IKTFM. I only fit in where no one knows me.
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>>823206

Testing the irrigation system.
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>>823207

I was popular in the group, but I fucked one of the females irl, and for the most part, they all took her side when I dumped her.

Here it is now. I'm having slight drainage problems, but nothing I can't fix too easily.
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>>823211

Sorry it's sideways.
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Olympia, Washington here!
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>>823219
whaaat. me too! I'm stuck with container gardens for now, though.
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>>823226
That's another thing I'm doing, the garden I have is surrounded by cinderblocks, so I have a bunch of herbs growing in each hole in them! Pretty useful
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>>823229
I just have diy earthboxes and some bins from the dollar tree outside my apartment. the stuff in the earthboxes has been growing really well, though.
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>>823219
Is that poison ivy on your garden path?
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The hydroponic tomato is going well. I let the fluid get a little low so it's stunted. But it's already making up for lost time.
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>>823248
I put this cage over it temporarily to save it from the chickens. Then it had a grow spurt so now the cage and squash are married
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Hi, I'm going on vacation at the end of august for about 20 days, and I have no one to water my plants while I'm away. Plants (a dozen, mostly peppers) are in pots on the balcony with West exposure. Summer here is often around 30°C during the day.

I was thinking of buying a blumat-sort drip system (pic related), but I also wonder if I can make something with hoses and an aquarium pump, all of this set on a timer.

How do you deal with this kind of situation?
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>>823211
>3dpd
Not even once
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>>823245
No those are the green beans to the right of the steps, to the left is kale
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>>823216

Is that a DWC?

I currently have a 150g fish tank running two media filled (hydroton) 50g beds. I'm going to add a 50g DWC but I'm going to rig a venturi for the inlet and see how much air that provides. If it is not enough, I have plenty left on my air pump which is currently only supplying my biofilter (fish tank uses a venturi for the inlet).
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Does anyone have tips on doing a three sisters garden? I'm planning for next year.
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Anybody have experience growing Solanum Quitoense/Naranjilla from seed? I know they're notoriously slow to germinate but after a month and a half I just gave up.
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>>823310
ask some friends/family or just ask your neighbors and give them something in return maybe a few peppers? kek
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>>823250
The weird raised bed monster is doing well.
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>>823414
what cruelty did you inflict on that wheelbarrow?
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>>823154
>Sister gets caught up in the Pokemon GO craze
>Hope this'll make her start going outside and take her dogs on walks n shit
>lol no, she just drives everywhere
RIP hopes and dreams.
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>>823399
I would happily do that, but they're going in vacation the same time than me, at least for the beginning.
Also, anyone had any luck with pic related, or is the flow too heavy?
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>>823437
you can make your own if you want, don't have to buy those things
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>>823438
Yeah, I was thinking of simply drilling the bottle cap. My main concern is how much time it will hold and water the plants.
The more I'm thinking about this, the more I'm going into the water-pump direction
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>>823441
I've left them for a bit over a week with that system - probably longer if you drill really small holes.
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>>823444
That's encouraging and exactly what I am seeking (feedback from people who tried it). Was it small plants or bigger one? Most of my plants are in 10L pots, but I'm afraid my tomatoes won't make it with this system (it's in a 30L pot)
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>>823450
Smaller plants but you could just use a few for bigger plants. If they're in pots you might be able to leave them sitting in water (like in a big saucer) if they're not too sensitive to overwatering.
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>>823414
I have to get ready for tomato town.
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>>823211
Are you sure you want to use those barrels? Just look at those warningsigns. No matter how good they have cleaned it, there is always some resedue left to contaminat the water, the plants and the fish. Learend that the hard way.
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>>823359

She was a cool girl. I wish we could have stayed friends.

>>823382

I'm still pretty new to soilless gardening. Venturi, DWC, I don't fucking know.
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>>823466

It was coolant. Coolant is relatively harmless. When you change it in your car, my municipality says you can dump it down the storm drain.
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>>823441
take an old bottle cap and hold it with pliers then heat the top with a lighter
until you can use a screwwdriver to stretch that cone out of it.
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>>823310
>20 days

You need a watering system with a timer that will go off when you want it to. Olla irrigation may also work if they are large enough and you have enough, but a timer and some sprinkler/soaker hoses will cost less than a bunch of Olla.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0FajsQnurw
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>>823398
Wtf are those?
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>>823469
You live in a shit town
Coolant is basically anti freeze, which has a sweet taste so wildlife will consume it and get sick
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>>823489
>>823469
The stuff in >>823211 is:

>ES Compleat
https://www.cumminsfiltration.com/sites/default/files/LT32599_09_0.pdf

>ES Compleat EG Concentrate mixes readily with clean tap water or demineralized water, while ES Compleat EG Premix is formulated with demineralized water and is ready to use. Both EG antifreeze products are low silicate, contain a full charge of heavy duty chemical inhibitors and are compatible with SCA chemical filters. ES Compleat EG Antifreezes are formulated with Borate/Nitrite chemistry recommended for use in heavy duty diesel engines.

>ES Compleat PG Concentrate mixes readily with clean tap water or demineralized water, while ES Compleat PG Premix is formulated with demineralized water and is ready to use. Both PG coolant products are low silicate, contain a full charge of heavy duty chemical inhibitors, and are compatible with ES Coolant chemical filters and conventional SCAs.

>ES Compleat OAT Extended Life Antifreeze/Coolant utilizes patented organic acid technology. It provides superior diesel engine protection against freezing, boil-over, cavitation, liner pitting, erosion, corrosion, elastomer gasket degradation, and scaling, with one replenishment of ES Compleat OAT Extender liquid.

SDS sheet states:

>Suspected of damaging fertility or the unborn child. May cause damage to organs.
>Environmental hazards: This mixture does not meet the classification criteria according to OSHA HazCom 2012.

You also need to use the largest governmental body's laws, in your location, about disposal

>Dispose of contents/container in accordance with local/regional/national/international regulations.

In the USA it is up to individual states as to the current regulation. The EPA hasn't regulated it as of yet, as a hazardous waste. If the state doesn't regulate it then the local government may (city/town).

I certainly would feel sketchy dumping it down a storm drain.
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Hi all,

My potted Roma tomatoes have blossom end rot. I water them daily and fertilized them at the start of the season with vigoro tomato fertilizer (3% calcium). Should I fertilize them again (will this much calcium be enough?) Or should I go out and buy some limestone to make a slurry /some other solution to get them more calcium?
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>>823458
Corns coming in great.
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>>823062
>>823120
>>823068
>>823071
>>823073
>>823108
This is my piss jug. You didn't think you'd get through an entire thread on 4chan without a piss jug did you?

Piss grows plants better than miracle gro, and your body produces it free. So I save mine and use it on potatoes and tomatoes. Best to dilute it about 10:1.

When I have my own land, I'll be able to compost my own shit too. First worlders piss and shit greatness, so flushing away all that material is just bad fucking business.
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>>823562
I raided someone's backyard for this attractive black bamboo. It was growing over a fence, which makes it public property, which makes it my property now.
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>>823563
I delimbed my bamboo in about 5 seconds using a machete. It's the only blade worth a shit in the rainforest.

I'm drying out the leaves to use as mulch and compost. Hopefully I can get some seeds out of it too and start my own bamboo crop.

I'm building a wall with the bamboo on my northern edge. Theory is that I can make my land slope southward, giving me more surface area and better sun capture.
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>>823565
>>823137
>It isn't that it is too much water but inconsistent watering.

That's why you mulch. fucking. everything. It keeps your soil consistently moist at all times. Nature never lets soil dry out, so you've got no business letting it dry out either.

I mulch potatoes and tomatoes heavily with deciduous leaves the way the gods of the forest intended.
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>>823565
>Planting bamboo in your hard
I sincerely hope it's the clumping kind and not the spreading kind.
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>>823219
Are you letting your broc go to seed?
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Does anyone in these generals talk about raising animals? I'm interesting in raising chickens but there doesn't seem to be a regular thread on /out/, /diy/, or /an/ for small farm tier animal husbandry.
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>>823580
That seems just as much /out/ as gardening. Make a thread and see if you get banned.
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>>823580
There's a ton of people on /an/ who raise chickens. Go ask there. If there isn't a thread about it, just make one.
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BEHOLD the first of my bounty
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>>823505
Kek
Referring to coastal only of course, I realise East of the Rockies it's much more continental
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>>823566
>leaves
Kinda difficult here as it's de facto suburban/high population density.
And driving 20+km to the next forest in November, collecting leaves there, dirtying up the car, and then storing them somehow until April? (or do you apply them directly over winter?) Nah.
Would have to buy bark mulch, will consider doing that next time around
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>>823584
>>823587
I was hoping there was an established thread with resources and regulars for discussion, but I guess not. I'll create a thread on /an/ later.
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>>823599
You live in a city. Cities are packed full of trees, and idiot suburbanites rake them, bag them, and leave them on the curb year after year. Grab bags of them and store piles of leaves during autumn.

Not my picture, but this is a mature leaf mold pile. Nothing beats massive piles of leaves for building your soil and cutting usurious garden centers out of the loop.
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>>823562
Stop biting your nails.
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>>823073
>>823073
>a 4channer managed to successfully reproduce

This is the most horrific thing I've seen on the internet all day.
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>>823633
I dunno, from what I've seen of people on 4chan, I'd expect them to be even better parents than the rest of the Internet.
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>>823619
Not a city, it's actually an old village of 3500 but which technically serves as a suburb for the cities, kinda hard to explain
I do have a couple trees in the garden but they get gradually mown their fallen leaves away together with the lawn. Also mostly shit ones for collecting, like tiny ones such as Robinia pseudoacacia
I won't bother manually collecting these tiny things every 3 days
There's a grape vine with huge leaves though, maybe I'll take some of those

I do have several compost heaps though where lawn cuttings and other garden wastes go into, but I always let them rot through 2 years or so before it goes into the ground
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>>823640
>I do have several compost heaps though where lawn cuttings and other garden wastes go into, but I always let them rot through 2 years or so before it goes into the ground

You can mulch with it instead and let it compost in place. If I had nothing else, I would just mulch with shredded newspaper. It's all unbleached paper and soy ink nowadays anyway. Don't try to tell me you can't find an unlimited supply of newspaper.

Sometimes you have to talk to people to get free shit. A bit of masculine charm will go a long fucking way. Case in point, one broad at the community garden hooked me up with her biggest zucchini today, and all I gave her was a winning smile.

>>823627

never

>>823636

this guy gets it
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>>823477
Thanks, I'll try it. Do you feel this cone thing is really necessary? Is it to increase the water height hence the pressure?

>>823482
Sadly Ollas are not an option, since my pots are too small. I was thinking of doing my own pump-timer thing (those all-made I see on amazon are quite expansive). I prefer to avoid letting my water-tap opened while I'm away, so it will be on a reserve.
Or maybe you know about some cheap-but-great system? I'd like something around 40€, just recounted my plants, they're around 20's (so more than the dozen I was speaking about earlier)
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>>823684
I make shitloads of videos. No exaggeration, 2 or 3 a day. A lot are about plants.

BARAGA TOUR - This community garden has over 400 one-thousand-square-foot plots for 100$ a year each. Pic related: BARAGA aerial photo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agDjLYgR8RY

GARDEN VLOG 26 - Most recent vlog episode at my community garden

https://youtu.be/vbatNh6JFrc

2 TREE SPECIES of the VANCOUVER RAINFOREST

https://youtu.be/3ii46UBPEkI

BIKE THE MONSOON - a rainstorm blows down trees and I film the aftermath

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B_DPxZimfQ
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>>823684
Nothing worse than oversized zucchini.
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>>823529
Hi, generally it isn't a deficiency that causes blossom end rot.
It's rather irregularity of watering, when there is a sudden lack of water on a sunny day, which renders the calcium non-bioavailable. It may be a little too late, but how are temperature and waterings? Did you wait for the soil to dry a little between two waterings? (when one waters too often (in time) and too few (in volume), only superficial roots develop themselves ; while when you water rarely (time) but a lot (volume), you'll have deep roots which stand droughts much better)
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>>823708
your opinion is wrong
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>have two kinds of Rumex on the property
>trying to identify them down to subspecies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumex#Species

I hate it when wikipedia is just about the only source there is on line for stuff like this. You have to have a PhD in Rumex just to know this shit it seems.

Does anyone have a good online resource/database to access scientific descriptions for plants like this? I'm talking the ones that describe them right down to using a microscope.
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>>823704
I don't know of anything that will last for 20 days that is less expensive than a normal timer hooked to a normal sprinkler; simply due to the number of gallons you'd need and containers needed to store it all. Pray for rain.
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>>823563
>It was growing over a fence, which makes it public property, which makes it my property now.
Sounds like the kind of shit where you may be right in the eyes of the law, but you're still an asshole for doing it.

>>823565
And that machete looks like some edgy tacticool bullshit.
>narrow blade puts less weight behind your swing
>paying for a serrated back that you will never have any reason to use unless it's literally the only saw you own
>hole in the blade, because hanging things point-down is for sheeple
>appears to be sharpened at a needlessly acute angle, as if you're toppling a Caribbean regime rather than a copse of bamboo
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>>823633
Once I saw a van with a "baby on board" sign and a pedobear decal.
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>>823728
I've got a 60L container, which I think will do fine (I usually water everything around 5L every 2 days).
I'll try the rain dance and hope...

I was thinking of mixing various "T" connectors and aquarium tubes, though I don't know how will be the pressure at the end of the day.
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>>823732
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>>823732
>all this needless projection

Sure thing, kid.
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>>823745
Don't pretend you wouldn't be annoyed if some young neighbor came cutting at your plants with his EdgeMaster® Machete™
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>>823562
>Piss grows plants better than miracle gro
most things grow plants better than miracle gro.
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>>823572
No, I just need to harvest them soon, I pick it when I need it
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>>823749
I did those geriatrics a favor by bringing them back into bylaw compliance. In truth, I should be sending them an invoice.
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>>823562
I piss on my piles nightly

>>823764
Keep up the good work buggy, I didn't like you at first but you grew on my over the years.
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>>823562
Isn't it way too high on the nitrogen to other stuff ratio?
So probably great for things you want to grow leafy green (like lawns and brassicas) but don't care/want them to flower. I'd probably mix in some ash from the last grill fire to up the P and K
But still I'd guess there's too much unnecessary sodium in it which plants as opposed to animals have almost no use for
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>>823867
>Isn't it way too high on the nitrogen to other stuff ratio?
yeah, piss needs to be way diluted to use as fertilizer otherwise it will just burn your crop. If you own a dog and you have brown patches in your lawn, that's from dog piss burning the grass
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Might as well post my pumpkin before someone smashes it.

Post ur pumpkins.
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>>823876
Plus it needs to be fermented in for a little awhile first.
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>>823882
it's too soon senpai.
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>>823882
lose look really nice anon. but yeah I can see your concern what with them being so close to the street like that. lot of hoodlum 12yr olds in the vicinity?
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>tfw found a couple of volunteer mystery strawberries that popped up in the flower bed at the street side (front) earlier tonight (haven't un-weeded there for about 2 weeks)
The fuck did they get there? My own strawberries are about 60m in the back yard, and they're most likely the closest ones to that spot. Never thrown any rotten ones there either.
Could a passer-by have thrown one there? (very unlikely as it's not a very frequented street)
Or did they come via bird shit?

Also is it possible to tell which species it is without the flowers/fruits, i.e. from the leaves alone? I guess it's probably a regular, uncultivated F. vesca, but I'll replant them to my strawberry plot in the back yard anyway because there's still a few open spots. Guess only next year will tell what they are
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>>823558
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I'm hoping of starting a terrarium using a log seeded with mushrooms (bought it at a nursery) and some moss from outside.

Does anyone have any experience with growing moss? My plan was just to buy a large glass tank (a fish tank or something), lay down a layer of soil, and then put clumps of moss on there and hope it spreads, misting heavily whenever it gets dry.
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>>823925
After some research, it seems like it could also be some sort of "fake strawberry", Potentilla, hope it's not
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>>823950
I've heard if you blend moss with plain yogurt and spread that, new moss will grow where it has been spread. I've never done this though, but I have seen somebody's moss garden and they claimed that's how they did it.
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>>823950
I was considering a terrarium also.
I just wonder, do you need somewhere for the soil to drain? Or do you just use plants that won't need constant watering ?
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>>823956
you can do a layer of sand/gravel/clay balls at the bottom, and followed by mesh screen, and then the rest. a drainage layer is a good idea though.
>>823954
I've heard you stick that in the blender, paint it on, and it works great! never tried it though.
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>>823890
I'm in 4a so I'm kinda surprised

>>823896
Yea I live near two schools, more worried about the middle school
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>>823964
When did you start your pumpkins? I'm in Southern Ontario and last year my pumpkins were mostly ripe in August and I started in early june. This year I started early July and my pumpkins are still just green leaves
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>>823968
I started from seed in early April, in the ground mid May idk if that was too early.
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>>823972
way too early, especially if you live in a warm climate. We still had snow in early April, and frosts until mid-May and last year early June was too soon.

These were mine in the middle of August last year
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>>823558
you might need to hand pollinate those ears, fyi.
>>823684
this is the season where people lock their cars so that they don't receive unwanted summer squash.
>>823708
>>823721
4 or 5 oversize zucchinis...
>>823882
Must be free. I'm gonna come over with my machete...
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>>823978
>you might need to hand pollinate those ears, fyi.

that`s not how it works senpai. Corn is mostly pollinated by wind anyway, but insects usually do the work
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>>823974
>37 days above 90

Well this is a learning experience, at least I'll get seed, right?
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>>823978
don't sheddy those punkins anon
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>>823988
Depends
Are you growing any other type of gourd? Pumpkins notoriously cross breed and don't produce true seeds

One of the pumpkin seeds I'm growing came out of a big white pumpkin but the leaves are now really small so I don't think it's true to its parent
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>>823974
Looks like vine borer?
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>>823994
I live in the middle of town so I wouldn't be surprised if another was near
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>>823979
I've always had bad luck getting kernels pollinated when I had small corn plots. Good luck when I did a little dusting. Must be different for you.
>>823992
I would never, brah.
>>823994
Volunteer cucurbits are my fave. get them in the pig pen all the time, and they are always wacko veg.
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>>824010
Even things like squash and zucchini can cross breed I believe
Either way you could get interesting hybrids next year
I'm excited to see what this white pumpkin seed with produce
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>>824013
>>>824013
So. Can I just rub a paper towel over all of them?
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I keep totally skipping over this thread looking for the cloverleaf thing thumbnail instead.
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>>824186
Just search homegrow
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Lol bugguy definitely made this thread himself

>>>/an/2176891
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Just filter him and let it go, you fucking autist. You're even more autistic about bugguy than you claim bugguy is.
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>>824194
Hi bugguy
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>>823200
Keep it coming man!
Also ask an aquaponic fanatic everything.
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>>824199
>>824211
>>824226
>>824228
He hasn't made a post in 16+ hours and you fanbois are still fucking talking about him. Filter and forget. I'm sick to shit of you and him filling these threads with /b/tard level shit.
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So I limed and put all-purposed fertilizer down before putting my elderberries in. Should I also water it with liquid fertilizer 1-2 weeks like it says on the bottole or is this too much?
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>>823062
OP AND WHOEVER PICKS THIS THREAD UP NEXT TIME: KAT IS DEAD.
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>>823594
watsit
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>>824259
we know that. The last thread: >>819254

They are all: (Link Redacted)

OP also did: [Embed] [Embed]
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>>824282
Looks like pressure canned green beans.
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>>823619
I cringe when I think about all the grass I basically let get strip mines from my home before I started gardening. I make sure to take advantage of any organic matter my neighbors happen to put on the curb. I always ask so they don't feel violated.
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>>824241

I'm just doing tests rn. I didn't put a drainage layer down, and that's causing a problem, but other than that, everything is good. Where do you buy fish? I live in Florida.
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>>824286
>>823619
For leaves, it is highly recommend that you use one of those shredder-type of leaf vacuums. They essentially turn 16 games into 1 bag of shredded leaves and the leaves take far far less time to decompose.

You can pile them up about 2-4 feet deep in the fall. In the spring, remove all the top leaf matter that isn't composted. You should have 1-2 inches of composted leaves at the very bottom.

I do much the same by bagging the leaves normally then using them as litter for my chicken coop. The chickens shred the leaves into nothing and crap all over it. Then I have turbocharged compost.

I have a vacuum attachment for my mower too. I have so much yard waste being composted, it is great. I'm also friends with some horse people. So, there is an endless supply of horse manure. There's literally 3 large garden's worth of 2-4 year old composted horse manure at one location that I really want to get, but don't have the machinery to do so. I get about 1-2 small pickup loads of bags of the stuff a week. There's enough to fill a couple dump trucks there.
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>>824297
All my envy. All I have is a shitty little car which hauls about .005 cubic feet of anything, no access to free manure (people actually CHARGE FOR SHIT HERE) and as I live in an apartment, no yard clippings. I could pick some up at a yard waste dump, but again, my car doesn't haul much.
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>>824295
I'm in Europe and i import them from the Netherlands.
The tomato strain i was experimenting with is going down the shitter, the other tomatos are fine, the peppers as well but the strawberries seem to pussy out on me.
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>>823594

Are you pickling those? You're going to want some kind of weight to keep them constantly submerged otherwise bad bacteria will grow.

I usually stuff as many as I can into a jar and then put marbles in a plastic bag on top.

If you persevering them some other way let me know, I've got too many beans as it is.
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>>824282
>>824318
They are pickled.

You mean marbles inside the jar? I've never heard about that. This is my first time canning stuff from my garden. But I have done this with my mom as a kid and all the recipes I read before doing it never mention this.

Would flipping them regularly help? I don't plan on keeping these for long term storage, just something to snack on later.
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>>824023
I used to take a plastic grocery bag and put it over the male flower (at the top) and bend the plant top over sideways, and shake off the pollen into the bag. Repeat with all amle flowers. Then use a paintbrush. Dip into pollen and brush it onto the silk. I think I read teh pollen grains have to travel up the silk. Like, one grain on one silk equals 1 kernel? Always thought that was kinda crazy.
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>>824324
If you're doing a brine and a hot water bath you don't have to worry about it. I don't know much about fermented or salt pickles.
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Anyone have any idea what sort of pepper plant this is?
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>>824417
Without any fruit, hard to tell !
Though with only "falling" flowers rather than erected ones, probably NOT Capsicum Frutescens.
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>>824446
I tried and failed to take a none fuzzy photo.
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What's going on with my Bell pepper plant? Some type of nutrient deficiency? Too much?
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>>824464
So they're erected fruits, sorry for the previous bullshit
Might be prairie fire?
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what are some good ways to stake up a tomato? there isn't room for a tomato cage- they're growing in a rubbermaid tote.
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>>824483
>>824484
>>824485
Can you post a picture of the full plant (with pot size)? That doesn't seem very bad, maybe a light iron or nitrogen deficiency?
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>>824490
Tie the main stalk to a wooden stake. Simple, but it works for me.
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>>824498
I think it's a 5 gallon pot. The only fertilizer I use is 5-1-1 fish emulsion.
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>>824504
The pot seems big enough, so at least it isn't any root-bound. Is it younger or older leaves that switch to yellow ? (Also for fruiting did you consider switching for 3-3-3 by example ?)
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>>824510
Younger leaves. And yeah I should switch to something a little heavier in magnesium/calcium/potassium.
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>>824511
I wouldn't particularly supplement in calcium, it rarely really lacks. If it's younger leaves, it's rather iron than magnesium.
Plus, when the water is too hard or when the soil is well given in calcium, iron absorption may be decreased...
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>>824515
I've been using Epsom Salt in addition to my 5-1-1 fert. And fruiting hasn't been an issue aside from my Jalapeno plant.
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>>824517
Great. Though most of times one doesn't need much of epsom salt, some spoons here and there and it's enough

Anyway to come back to your bell pepper, for me it seems rather in good shape. If you're worried, try to put some iron-EDDHA or to lower the pH, see how it changes (if it changes anything at all)
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>>824502
This
I bunjie cord mine to my deck
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Wow thanks for not including links to these dvd's
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>>824617
The links don't exist anymore that is why.
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I cant believe that it is trying to put out oranges after 4 months of growing from seed.
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>>824645
Pretty sure that's a tomato
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my humble pepper garden.
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>>824651
7pot capped phenotype
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>>824653
its upside down oh well

different 7 pot pheno
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>>824647
Nope, seeds came from an orange.

Two on the left are orange, back right is lemon.
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>>824654
some nagas
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>>824656
oops forgot pic
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>>824655
I like your tomato in the middle, then
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>>824658
and some frutescens of unknown variety
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>>824655
what did you blur out?
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>>824660
goddamnit..

anyways they are spicy enough, for now.....
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>>824655
The one with the leaves different from the rest could be a citrus. The rest aren't.
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>>824663
thank you lady bugs.
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>>824662
a penis
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>>824655
Only middle one in orange pot is likely a citrus. Also, it seems to be getting light from only one side, so you should consider rotating it every now and then
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>>824669
I didn't know you could grow those on a balcony. They usually need full sun.
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>>824673

Sensible chuckle
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>>824324

This is my first year pickling as well but I've made a few batches. Basically there is a difference between pickling and lacto-fermenting.

Pickling is when you store veggies in a brine and are able to much on them for a week or two before they go bad.

Lacto-fermenting is a process which utilizes the natural bacteria in vegetables to preserve them for several week/months.

I know that when you lacto-ferment you definitely want to keep the veggies below the water line to avoid the "bad" bacteria growth. Not sure if it's the same for pickling. Maybe some other anons know more.
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>>824733
It's the same for pickling in brine, but for sliiiiiightly different reasons. You want the pickles to be below the waterline to get every bit of the veggie soaked in vinegar-y goodness.
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>>824697
actually capsicum chinense
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>>824734
;)
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Does anyone have any experience growing Vietnamese coriander? I'm reading that it's pretty easy to grow where I live in the Bay Area, but every time I try putting it in a pot, it just shrivels up and dies, even in the shade. I could really use some help.
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>>824807
Could be that it just doesn't like being in a pot. I, for instance, was never able to get lavender to like being in a pot, they always died, unlike when It's in the ground where it thrives.
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>>824807
Also, a quick read-through of the plants requirements states it actually loves constantly wet soil and boggy conditions. Did you ever let the soil dry out?
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Hey out, lurker here.

I'm building a raised bed for growing vegetables. Got ants building a nest in the soil of the raised bed. I have a bag of Eliminator Fire Ant Killer Plus brand ant poison granules. Used it in the past to deal with any large ant nests, whether they were fire ants or not.

Would this kind of ant poison be ok to use in a raised bed for growing vegetables or should I find an alternative method for getting the ants out?
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>>824954
poison in your vegetable garden doesn't sound good. where exactly are the ants building the nest? what material are you using for the bed?
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>>824948
Kek had exactly the same issue, out of 6 seedlings (sprouted late February), only one survived in the end and only ever started growing when put in the ground (mid-June, at that point it was still <1cm)
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>>824956
Nest is near the middle of the bed. I haven't gotten to planting anything yet, the bed is just a big plot of soil.

>what material

Not sure what you mean. Used yellow pine lumber for the frame and a mix of local top soil and organic garden soil for the soil.
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>>824954
Not really, because the poison will get washed out over time and what little gets absorbed into your veggies is meant to kill arthropods not humans, and it'll be such a tiny amount anyway.
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>>824962
What meant is : are you going to put a barrier down to keep weeds/moles/ants out? Like landscaping felt over the soil before you fill it?
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>>824954
You mean an ant hill? There's no reason to remove ants unless they are some species that makes big hills or actively destroys your plants. Those that farm aphids aren't that bad since you can merely blast the aphids off with a spray hose and begone with them. Most just hunt insects and drink nectar from flowers.
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>>824967
Barriers don't work like that. They only limit root depth of your crops. Moles still climb over and get in. Ants simply DGAF. Weeds are a problem from the top down not bottom up due to introduced seeds.
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>>824962
>what material
I was wondering if they were building your walls and if they were stone or wood.

ants probably wont do too much damage in a raised bed. you're going to get bugs living in there. Its my understanding that ants are only really a problem in pots and buckets, or if they are building in the walls of your bed.
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>>824954
Are you worried about the ants herding aphids up your plants? You could try loosely wrapping some tape or something sticky around the bottom of the stalk to stop them from climbing, or introduce some natural predatory insects to the garden to eat the ants/aphids.
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>>824954
Are they fire ants or not? Or just regular ants?
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>>824990
Can't really tell if they're fire ants or regular ants. Red color with black abdomen.

>>824985
Mostly I was thinking about how inconvenient it could be to be doing garden work (digging, planting, weeding) in soil with lots of ants crawling around in it. Getting stung is annoying.

I don't see many traces of ants now aside from the usual amount. Earlier they had made a tunnel and there were lines of ants crawling up into the bed and into the tunnel. That was shortly before I posted. Now all that's gone. I guess I'll wait until I start planting to decide on whether the ants will be an issue.
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>>825052
They probably thought an empty box of dirt wasn't worth the investment.
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>>824952
I don't believe so, no. I use thise self watering containers that are suppised to keep it watered for a week, but now I'm not sure. Would I be better off just trying to grow them with aquaponics maybe? Or is there a better way to engineer a container or water them?
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>>825103
Maybe they also need high (>90%) humidity? So maybe put some plastic wrap around one pot just test-wise so the air humidity can build up?
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>>823486
Its common and latin names are literally in the post. Not to mention the file name.
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>>825193
Maybe it's the soil composition, maybe it's too compact for the roots, maybe it's too acidic or alkaline, maybe the seed sucked and you should plant more instead of just one, maybe it doesn't like the disturbance of changing pots, who knows. Plant more
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Did some insect fuck with my cantaloupe or are the dark green spots just bruises? Before the pad was laid, i just had them sitting on hard gravel.
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>>825320
Looks like mechanical damage.
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>>825323
Thought so, just paranoid.
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After a year of blindly stumbling about and no prior gardening experience, I have my container garden actually working. It's super small compared to a lot of the stuff I see you guys posting, but it's mine and I'm proud if it. Now if only I could keep these fucking catepillars from eating all my mint...
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>>825334
could you please WATER THE PEPPERS
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>>825334
Looks like its time to get a larger planter m8. Have you just tried picking all the caterpillars off?
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>>825360
The pic was taken after being gone for a week. I assure you, they're doing much better.

>>825362
Wish I could, but I'm renting and have no space that gets sun other than my makeshift setup out back. And yes, I've been picking them off, but they keep coming back and it's super annoying.
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Beginner here, needing advice. So, I have:
>Potting mix
>Perlite
>Blood and bone
>Peat moss
>Liquid plant food
>Granule plant food

Planning on planting some herbs to begin with and moving on to lettuce. Question is, what % of each of the above components should I mix together? I plan on buying the herbs as sprouts and planting the lettuce as seeds.
I currently have parsley sitting in only old potting mix and liquid plant food.
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>>825441
If it's good potting mix, you don't need to add anything to it.
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>>825468
Added some perlite and granule plant food just in case, can't hurt can it? Also watered with the liquid fertilizer.
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>>825485
Be careful about overdoing the fertilizer. Don't wanna burn your plants.
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>>825485
Make sure when you put on liquid fertiliser that you've given the plants a really thorough watering beforehand, or you'll burn them.
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>>825402
> Wish I could, but I'm renting and have no space that gets sun other than my makeshift setup out back. And yes, I've been picking them off, but they keep coming back and it's super annoying.

Blast th plants with soap for the catapillars. And if you can at least double the size of those pots. 5 gallon buckets at least. They'll take up very little extra room and you'll get get a lot.more.out of it. They are going to be very root bound in those pots.
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>>823135
Tongue/10
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>>823310
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>>823925
They flew
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>>823732
Dear god, could you make yourself out to be any more of a faggot?
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>>>822222
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>>825601
So could I just drill a bunch if holes in the bottom of a bucket and call it a day then?
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>>825639
Yarn running through straws for osmosis watering?
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>>825653
Exactly
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>>823562
Piss yes. Yes indeed. Never forget guys, you can grow stuff using only diluted piss and fish guts in your dirt and never need to buy fertilizer again.
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>>823566
Disagree. You may be keeping your soil moist but it also promotes growth of fungus. If it rains too much, that won't be good. Also acidic pH - hoping you offset that.
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Am I getting cucked by root aphids or is this something else?
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>>825639
>>825654
Thanks for the reply.
Does this really work long term? I've got a feeling it's gonna drench teh soil by capillarity, then it's over. How many time do you manage to keep your plants hydrated with this?
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>>825651
If you make a big hole in the center and put them on dirt you'll usually get the the tap root to come out. I can't move half my plants now because of that. But boy have they gotten big.
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>>825790
That's a white mite. It is looking for food it seems.
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What are these little bastards? Keep seeing them on my Jalapeno plant and want to know if they're a pest or not.
Also, I had an issue with leaf miners a while back and the plant has recovered from it wonderfully (At least as far as I know). The leaf with the miners and the leaf with sunscald though are still pretty fucked, should I just remove those leaves outright since it now has at least a dozen more leaves now than it had then?
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>>825894
I don't know what that is, but my rule of thumb is kill ALL bugs on my plants unless I know differently. If it's a good one, there's not a whole lot of harm done.
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Just pulled all my cukes. Made a bunch of pickles, and don't feel like making anymore. I'm learning to remove plants when I know I'm done processing, or else I continue processing.
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>>824310

What kind of irrigation do you do? Ebb and flow? What type of soil-less medium?
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>>825639
>>825654
Ahh now I get that pic, a couple threads ago I didn't really have an idea what it was supposed to show
Being always keen on experimentation, I set up something much simpler test wise a few hours ago with just a random pot with bone dry substrate and a shoe lace through straw, and it seems to actually have extracted some moisture

Probably difficult to control/fine-tune though and dependent on too many variables such as type of lace used, soil type, length of the straw, degree of incline etc etc and last but not least the weather conditions
I guess I'll let the current setup stand there a few days until it reaches equilibrium and then test around how varying things affects it
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>>825894
That's an Phussie blurricus spp Naofocux.
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>>825979
It is a common technique used for bonsai plants. You are right about tons of variables.
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>>825983
I guess I could somehow apply it to my Tithonia rotundifolia that are sitting in a way too small planter and often let their leaves hang when I forgot to water it for just a couple hours, those things are guzzlers (the one planted out is much bigger though, occupies like 1x1m and has no issues, probably deep enough roots to reach where it's always wet so I don't water it at all)
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>>825987
nice mexican sunflowers m8, I used to have a huge one in my backyard
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>>826119
Those currently look like shit though thanks to the too small planter size
Here a pic of the outplanted one, hardly visible that way but it's really massive
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Please help me /out/. I purchased wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more seeds than my little suburban garden can handle. I will never use all of them. Is there a relatively quick way to get rid of unwanted seeds? I know about eBay, but I would probably have to sell each packet individually, and I would prefer to sell in big chunks.

Any help appreciated.
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>>826184
Just save them for next year. They should still be good then. I have seeds from 5 years ago that I still plant and grow stuff from.
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>>826222
The problem is that when I bought tomato seeds, for example, I bought 8 varieties. I have enough seeds saved from my favourite strains, but I will never use every strain up in time (and I save seeds from the tomatos that I produce).

This is my way of clearing house and sticking only to what I want.
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>>826256
Give them to friends and family.

Personally, I switch up varieties every year and rotate plant to help prevent disease.
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>>826184
How much did you spend on seeds that you're not using?

Not sure if it'd be worth the trouble to resell them just to save $20.
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>>825836
It's an option that doesn't guarantee anything but it's better than leaving your plants without any water at all

>How many time do you manage to keep your plants hydrated with this?
I just saved the picture from another person. He or she posted that some plants didn't survive it
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>>826419
>He or she posted that some plants didn't survive it

I think that is because you are normally meant to use a much larger piece of material to transport the water and a far larger reservoir of water. Especially for that amount of plants.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSedM0_cHF4
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>>826427
Okay
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>>825971
Its a mix. For peppers and tomatos i use gravel (basalt) and for the tomatos i use ecoglass ( its like clay pebbles but made of glas, floats on water). In the buckets the tomatos have a liter of basalt as a stabilizer, the rest of the bucket is a flood and drain deep water situation.
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>>826472

I'm tweaking my system right now. I'm having a huge problem with it draining as fast as it fills. I think I'm going to have to do ebb and flow. How often do you recommend the pumps to cycle?
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>>826475
If you want provide me some pictures or a schematic of your system (heigh difference, and volumes and piping helps a lot).

The whole water volume should be cycled at least 4 times a day.
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I see a lot of shit in pest control about parasitic wasps being really effective for specific kinds of pests, does anyone know of a resource that's easy to dig through for a beginner to find out which ones snack on what/what attracts them?

A more important question though, do larger predatory wasps hunt smaller parasitic ones? Because we've got assloads of those but all they do are kill big pests, herps, cats, and piss people off
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>>826475
Insufficient data for a meaningful answer.
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>>826184
Sell them as a lot on Ebay.

Give them away for the price of shipping.

Give them to me :^)
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I could use some advice from people who grow peppers:

How do I know when those Peruvian Purples are ripe?
Colour isn't a help because they turn purple first and get bigger afterwards.

Pic related.

Also 1/6.
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>>826558
2/6
Early red peppers are early.
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>>826562
3/6
My Cayennes. I love their colour.
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>>826564
4/6
Tabasco.
How long until they turn red?
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>>826567
5/6
Strangest Jalapeno I've ever seen (beautiful still). Did the shop maybe lie to me?
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>>826568
6/6
Anaheims. They look delicious already.
Plant grew high fast. Will I get a higher yield when I crop them so they grow wider? Will they grow wider?
Next year of course.
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>>826535
Hey! I understand that reference!
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>>826558
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>>826570
Very nice selection, crop, and plant health.

Yeah, those don't look at all like Jalapenos. lol

As far as ripening, just wait longer, is always sage advice when waiting for them to turn the final color. Probably another week for the Tabasco. The Peruvian Purples will stay good on the plant for a long time, just monitor the size and when it stops getting larger, pick it.
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>>826577
Thank you for the compliment and the advice.

That's barely half my peppers, will post more tomorrow, its getting dark here already.
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>>826419
>>826427
Thanks for the replies. I'm afraid it will just soak them the first days then nothing. I think I'm gonna stick to the pump + timer thing, just have to find a cheap pump with a good backflow height

>>826472
>>826475
>>826483
What kind of pumps are you using for these things? Is there a specific brand which is somehow better than another, or more tubes which are more reliable than others?
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Moved some of my strawberry runners from the small original ( plastic cups) into larger pots today,
If they don't die in a few days il move the rest of my runners

Then for the rest of the season il pinch all blossoms and runners from the new plants in hopes they thrive next year
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>>826697
The tank for the back of your toilet is a great way to use that method for house plants. Just set the plants in the bathroom and put the wick in the tank.

The same thing can be done with a toilet valve-float and a 5-gallon bucket. Just get an adapter for a garden hose and a garden hose that can stand the pressure all day..
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>>826184
Il take some of the mint and possibly berries

Though I may grab some mint from a friend and just let it spread like wildfire
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>>826710
My strawberry bed was expanded this year. I was going to do what you are doing, but now there's no need. But next year I'll need to.
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>>826715
I don't have any in the ground and am starting everything from some shitty cheap hanging baskets

I may turn my whole 20x20 garden into a strawberry plot
That and il be giving them away to friends and planting them random places

From $10 worth of hanging baskets I have 2 gaming baskets to produce eh need Nd fruit
And so far 10 runners,
Will probably have 20+ by the end of the summer

Pretty decent considering I'm still getting a small handful of berries every day still
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>>826714
The berries are really nothing special - Ground cherry, juneberries, and haskaps... pretty niche crops I would imagine.

As for mint, I have mint, spearmint (isn't that supposed to be mint?), catnip, lemonbalm, and mugwort.

Let me know if any of these things tickle your fancy.
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Iran out of wood to make this taller. It started below grow level. Should I cobble together another stack or is this tall enough?
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Clearly save some kale seed for the apocalypse.
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>>827066
God damn kale.
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>>826697
>What kind of pumps are you using for these things? Is there a specific brand which is somehow better than another, or more tubes which are more reliable than others?

i use a 75W china brand atm and i am very happy with it.
I use polyethylene piping 1" and those fittings to connect that shit.
The polyethyle is stiff but more flexible than a pipe, also its not as cancerous as pvc.
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How can I tell the right time to pick ripening figs? If I pick them when they're not completely ripe with some white sap still in the stem will the sap still dissipate after I've pulled them off before they're completely ripe? I'm trying to get them before the squirrels and birds get them.
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>>827207
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>>827207
They need to be picked when they're perfectly ripe. They'll be a deep purple color. I've got a few ripe ones myself, but the majority are still green.
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>>827213
How do I keep the squirrels and birds away from them before they're completely ripe?
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>>826184
Find yards that are unkempt and are growing wild, and scatter the seeds in there.
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>>827213
>>827207
The (outside) colour actually depends on the variety, the ones nearby will stay green outside
They're ripe when they become somewhat soft/squishy
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>>826907
>mugwort

Why would you get seeds for a weed that grows wild everywhere and is difficult to get rid of?
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>>827230
A problem people have been having for all of human history. I say get a pellet gun. Or netting.
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>>827298

A weed is just a plant growing where you don't want it. If he wants it growing in his garden, then it's not a weed. Besides, aggressive plants that like to take over are still able to be controlled. Mint, for instance, is infamous for spreading, and WILL take over unless you block its spread by planting it in a pot, in the ground.
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My bell pepper seems healthy and its very strong, but bottom leaves fall off alot. Is that normal?
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>>827387
Yep, its fine.
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>>827395
Also, that pot is only big enough for one plant. You're probably not gong to get anything out of them.
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>>827397
ill be getting a bigger pot soon.
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Can anyone tell me what this is? My grandmas orchid died so i repoted it, left it outsode and kept watering it. This is what grew out of the roots after the orchid completely died. She thinks its a weed. Im not sure myself.
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Is it a good practice to put June drop apples in compost?

My tree is pretty overgrown so I have 15 or so lbs of inedible apples to deal with. Throwing them out feels like a waste.
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>>827447
Next time do this: http://www.methownet.com/grist/features/blossom_thinning.html
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>>827454
Might try this, was reading up on thinning the fruit as well.
Hoping to get the tree back to producing eventually, but there's years of neglect to fix.
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>>827387
What symptoms do the bottom leaves display?
I guess you'll have nutrient deficiencies as soon as the flowering starts.
Bigger pot+ some fertilizer once in a while
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>>827447
Make pectin with them.

http://www.pickyourown.org/makeyourownpectin.htm
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>>827447
Know anyone with pigs?
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>>827595
Chickens love them too.
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>>827557
Never considered this, seems like the right route to take.
>>827595
>>827612
No sadly, it's illegal to raise both here.
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>>827298
There is a lot of motherwort in my area, but no mugwort.
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>>827293
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I've always wanted to be a guerilla gardener. Some flowering herbs in my area would be good for our 2 beehives as well.

Thanks for the idea
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>>827741
>Spreading non native and possibly invasive species

Throw native shit
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>>827746
I do have about 3lbs of native wild flower seeds (I went overboard buying some for my garden). I could just go to some of the barren green spaces in my area and brighten them up a little.
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>>823068
I get too lazy with my potatoes and only pile new soil up around them 1-2 times before giving up. I'll make potatoes great again with you next year, and go hog wild.

Looks like you have a tall bed and start it down low, building the soil up as they go?
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One of my second generation sugar snap pea plants have mutated. Here is what they look like. They are black for some reason.
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>>827964
Maybe you got lucky and you got something unique.
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>>827617
Damn, what dystopia do you live in?

Even here in the big city we're encouraged to raise chickens.

>>827736
It's the opposite here, mugwort is growing out of the cracks between every other building and the street.

>>827741
>>827752
This is what I've been doing. My neighborhood has gotten a bit brighter over the last few years.
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>>827741
Huh, that actually sounds like a good idea. My mom gave me a big box of wildflower seeds, but I didn't have a spot for them. Thanks for the idea man.
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>>826713
Thanks for the idea. Sadly balcony is too far away from bathroom, and the bathroom has no light. I was searching faucet adapters today, and damn these are hard to find (at least the exact one that one could want). Anyway I don't trust them enough to let the water flow during two weeks, I've got a feeling there's gonna be a water disaster once I come back
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Finally decided to mulch the tomato bed that is not rain-sheltered (also have a sheltered one), in preparation for the oncoming wet and progressively cooler and darker autumn (which eases shroom infections)
Spent about three hours yesterday shredding small dead wood stems as well as bark of a recently felled willow with a small machine so I had to manually unclog and open it like 20 times whenever I inserted a stem too quickly. Turned out with barely enough material to cover the 6m^2 area with a sufficient, couple cm thick mulch layer
But the timing couldn't have been any better, as it rained for like 14 hours today for the first time that intensely and long in a couple months
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Is this one basil plant or many? Should I kill all but one so that it grows hueg?
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Anyone know what this is?
No one in my family remembers planting it, the roots are the same plant I dug up. Let me know if you need more info. It's growing beside our peppermint. I live in zone 5/6.
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>>828034
>Damn, what dystopia do you live in?
Illinois suburbs. There are people who actively speak out about it raising animals, so the law likely won't get removed. Front yard crops can/will get mowed down, but backyard is OK at least.

You can get fined for keeping burdock and ragweed on your property if they grow too tall. Pretty backwards.
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>>823076
Autism
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>>823088
That shirt is dope as fuck
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>>823116
>>823120
Will you two faggot exchange phone numbers and Fuck off out of this thread?
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Does anyone actually use ollas or are they a meme?
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>>828581
It's a Thomas shirt. Little kids love Thomas. I've got a nephew myself who loves Thomas(and trains in general). I don't see how that makes it "dope."
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Hope you folks can guess what I did today.
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>>828561
>There are people who actively speak out about it raising animals,

You mean they actively speak out about raising animals? Or against raising animals?

> Front yard crops can/will get mowed down

Jesus. This some sort of HOA bullshit?

>You can get fined for keeping burdock and ragweed on your property if they grow too tall.

I can kinda understand ragweed because so many of us are allergic to it - but it'll still produce pollen when it's short, so how does that even help?

And burdock? Why burdock? That's one of the most fun plants for little kids, who ever takes care of the gardening at a school near me lets some grow every year so they can have fun with it.
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Where are my tomato growers at?

What are your favorite strains?


What is the longest you kept harvesting from a single plant? (How long is it actually possible under controlled environment??)
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>>828934
>You mean they actively speak out about raising animals? Or against raising animals?
Both sides, but the people who don't want others raising animals are very vocal about it, ties into the HOA bullshit.

>And burdock? Why burdock?
It spreads very rapidly here and grows excellently.
My property grew quite a lot of it over a single year, had to spend two days uprooting it and still find new sprouts. Shaded out all the grass in that area as well. I'd assume they don't want it to spread to other yards, since it is a lot of work to remove.
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>>828407
Seems like many, I would keep only two or three in such a pot. But not so close of each other
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Anyone up for making a new fred? Started a good chunk of the last few, but I can't be arsed to remove/replace all the now-dead links as has been pointed out earlier ITT
So I'll just be leaving the best template I have so anyone can add a new number
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>>829109
nobody fucking uses those links
just post memes
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>>828890
Worked with tomato plants for at least 2 hours. Probably suckering, trussing, and bottom leafing.

>>828945
>What is the longest you kept harvesting from a single plant? (How long is it actually possible under controlled environment??)

I did it professionally. They lasted up to about 3 years and grew 50' to 70' long.

>>829109
I did most of them and made the image and lists and all the older TF2 meme images too; from /ck/ to /diy/ to finally /out/.
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>>828945
The cherrolas are doing quite well, can pick a couple of fruits from each plant daily. The San Marzanos are kinda slow though
Being 50°N, I over wintered a plant test wise and 3 of its clones (in 5th and 6th cloning generation respectively) are producing fruit now (also a cherry type), so if that counts those are the longest living plant (were probably seeded Feb/Mar 2015)
Not worth the hassle though in my climate, it's easier to start from seed every year
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Hey watermelon guy if you're around, how long does it take until I know if my female flowers were fertilized? The stems have stayed the same width for 3 days now and I'm a little worried.
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>>829219
One of the couple melon growers here - I never checked it that closely, pretty much ignored the plants until I saw little fruits popping up, so I don't remember exactly how long it took between female flowers popping up and the fruits starting to grow, 1-2 weeks maybe?
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Mother fucker
I thought my potted beans would be safe on the deck
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>>828456

looks like a type of obedient plant
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