Homegrowmen (Farming and Gardening) Thread #66

>>819254
US Farm Income and Taxes,
http://www.hobbyfarms.com/farm-marketing-and-management/farm-income-taxes-14991.aspx

US Grants and Loans for Small Farms,
http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/usda/usdahome?navid=GRANTS_LOANS
http://afsic.nal.usda.gov/farms-and-community/grants-and-loans-farmers
http://www.nal.usda.gov/afsic/pubs/funding.shtml

Managing Risks on Your Small Farm,
http://agr.wa.gov/Marketing/SmallFarm/managerisk.aspx

Chicken info and forum,
http://www.backyardchickens.com

Rabbit guide
http://www.agriculture.gov.tt/publications/manuals/rabbit-production-a-producer-s-manual.html

A public access seedbank for many types of rare or endangered plants; both edible and ornamental,
http://www.jlhudsonseeds.net/index.htm

Organic and heirloom selections:
http://sustainableseedco.com/
http://www.seedsofchange.com/
http://www.johnnyseeds.com/

Potato, Sweet Potato, and Tubers seed bank (free, but requies filling out forms and waiting in line):
http://www.cipotato.org/

Awesome interactive plant/gardening maps for USA, Canada, France, UK, BC, (frost dates, temp zones, etc):
http://www.plantmaps.com/index.php

Sprout seeds and info:
sproutpeople.org

Insect Habitats for attracting polinating bees, predatory/parasitic wasps, hibernating ladybugs, butterflies, etc.
http://www.inspirationgreen.com/insect-habitats.html

Toad and Hedgehog Habitats,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JetkWtw7Jc
http://familycrafts.about.com/od/frogcrafts/a/How_To_Make_A_Toad_Village.htm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/breathingplaces/hedgehog_home/
http://www.britishhedgehogs.org.uk/leaflets/L5-Hedgehog-Homes.pdf

Chili Peppers
http://www.fatalii.net/
http://www.chilepepperinstitute.org/

More on Aquaponics & Aquaculture,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=26xpMCXP9bw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=_WgfaJjvfxA
http://www.appropedia.org/Aquaponics

Sourcing plants from the grocery,
http://www.diyncrafts.com/4732/repurpose/25-foods-can-re-grow-kitchen-scraps

Pumpkins

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Hey guys, reporting in with my rocket.
I have sown waaayy too many seeds, this being my first time ever dealing with anything other than bonsais.
How big do these need to be until I can transplant them into my garden?
And how would I go about it? Are there any special tricks or things I need to be aware of?

>>819385
holy shit that made me laugh. Whats your climate like? Why didnt you plant straight into the garden? Just loosely disturb the soil, throw seed making it not too dense, then loosely disturb the soil again.

No special tricks, just whatever works making sure you dont destroy the roots. I would grab them out along with a good handful of soil underneath and then tease the roots apart very softly

>>819388
>holy shit that made me laugh
Oh...okay
I'm in Melbourne, so we're currently in winter. This time of year is normally around 11-16°c
I didn't plant straight into the garden because I didn't have any room, and I was impatient. I only cleared a patch now in the garden which used to house a shit load of wood and other junk.
So I can transplant the rocket to that patch, but I'm considering perhaps just buying some seeds again and planting it now directly in the garden

>>819389
Sorry I didnt mean to make you feel bad. It just reminded me of when I planted carrot seeds for the first time some years ago.
Im in Melb too. Get some spinach seeds too while you're at it. Whats the rocket currently planted in? you could probably leave it and let it self thin and it would last fine, as long as theres a few inches of soil under it in whatever planter box you're using.

Remember that its worth spending a touch more for better (heirloom) seed. Preferably something like diggers rest, you can grab from CERES or BAAG if you're in the Northern 'burbs.

>>819405
I've gone for the wog approach and planted one of these boys in a huge "Darebin city council" tubs. So it's got like a foot of soil underneath it.
Will they naturally thin? And how long does this process take?
I might get some Spinach. I want heirloom seeds. I bought the rocket seeds from bunnings and there's nothing on the packets indicating they're non-GMO and the like. But the snow peas I bought are.
Also, I live in the west, but go to uni in the northern suburbs, so I might buy some

>>819408
>planted one of these boys

Planted these boys *
Wasn't thinking when typing

>>819385
If you are going to transplant, I'd grab handfuls and plant them by the handful. Trying to seaparte those little guys to plant indiviudally will be tricky. Keep them in big clumps and you can harvest with the "cut and come again" method.

Rocket also germintates really quickly. You could leave thsi batch and just start another in the garden.

>>819385
Wtf is rocket?

>>819469
Eruca sativa (aka Arugula)

>>819432
why so?
I got into /out/ in the first place as an escape from our artificial and manufactured lifestyles. It only makes sense I'd like to grow food that hasn't been modified in the same way that the packet of veggies at the supermarket has.
Sure, mine won't be sprayed with shit, but may as well go balls deep aye?
>>819467
I was thinking of something like this. Getting them individually will be a bitch
>>819469
Rocket, Roquette, Arugula, Rugula.
It goes by all those names. I've always known it as Roquette, but my gf tells me that Rocket is the more common spelling in Australia.
Apparently Americans call it Arugula tho.

I've got a few ripe figs, but most are still green. I've never actually harvested them before, so I dunno how much longer I have to wait.

>>819480
>why so?

Don't feed the trolls.

I use heirloom/landrace varieties I can save the seed and replant next season. I only use water as my main on-plant pest control.

>>819482
>I can save the seed and replant next season
I plan on doing this.
I really look forward to it
>>819488
I totally agree. I guess there's a certain appeal about the "natural" which really attracts me to things like heirlooms

>>819480
>Arugula
This is what it's known as in Canada
I'm growing some too in a pot

>>819488
You sound like a guy who drives ten miles to drop off your imported wine bottles at the recycling center

>>819385
What >>819388 said.

Plus, be very delicate when handling the stems and don't damage the seedling leaves too much. You'll still kill a few, but I've successfully transplanted seedlings this way in the past.

>>819491
Look up inbreeding depression if you are going to do this. Some plants, like melons, don't give a shit about being inbred. Most, if not all of the harmful recessive alleles have already been selected against. Other plants, like corn, require a fairly large population to prevent inbreeding depression. For corn, the general rule of thumb is that you need a minimum population of 200 and you should save seed from a minimum of 100. Things like melons and beans are on the extreme end of not giving a shit, and corn is on the extreme end of needing a large population.

You should have a basic understanding of each species, or at least each genus/family that you grow with regards to this. Beans are radical inbreeders, and you have to try to get crosses between two bean cultivars. Onions are something that you might only need to save seed from 6 or 10 plants.

If you don't have enough room to grow the requisite minimum numbers of plants for a given species, you can network with other seed savers and exchange seeds. You can also mix seeds up from previous years to make up for it, e.g. if you only have enough room for 100 cornstalks, next year, you would plant seed that you saved this year, plus last year. Add a little from 2014 for even more safety.

Is it possible to grow brandywine tomatoes in a pot on a small balcony in portland oregon? If so how big of a pot would i need for each plant.

>>819547
you're wrong. I'm actually very poor but I've gotten to see the difference between organic produce and inorganic produce. I committed to organic food as much as possible after eating nothing but pastured eggs for months with their very orange yolks and afterword buying some cheap egg and being very surprised in a bad way at their pale yellow yolk. That made me realize the difference diet makes in chickens and thus in humans too. Eating the right things is very important and getting it from soil that isn't monocropped and sprayed with bullshit and had its fungal duff destroyed is very important too. That's why I want to grow as much of my own organic food as possible. Because I'm poor.

>>819583
Yes
10 gallons or even less

>>819583
Depends which direction the balcony is facing I imagine.

>>819600
>10 gallons
thats way too big for a balcony. I have some in 3 gallon pots that are already 6' tall

>>819603
I'm thinking it metric
10 litres

>>819596
Organic produce is different. It has less nutrition, tastes worse and looks like shit. Bugs don't even want to eat it it is so unappealing. Oh, and it costs twice the price. May you just were raised by TV and your retarded single mom schoolteachers. >>819610

Metric gallons?

>>819196
Typical laws, punishing innocent homeowners while letting rampaging animals run free.

>>819237
See above comment.

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>>819260

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>>819654
I think this one is a cross between an Atlantic Giant and Buttercup, it's about the size of a basketball.

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>>819656

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>>819613
>>>/b/

>>819613
>Metric gallons
No I just mean the volume
I forgot gallons were ~4x 1litre

>>819664
Uh, this really don't have anything to do with Monsanto? It has to do with issues in quality. Not everyone who disagrees with organic is a Monsanto shill. 'Organic' just means that chemical pesticides/fertilizers aren't used. The produce can still be shitty.

>>819656
Huh, wonder what it'll taste like. Report back once it ripens anon.

>>819676
>'Organic' just means that chemical pesticides/fertilizers aren't used.

They still use pesticides and fertilizers. It is just that those are certified as organic.

Don't make general sweeping proclamations like that. There are too many variables that attribute to the taste-texture composition of vegetables grown using any methods. It can depends on when they are harvested, how far they must travel, weather, and so on for all types of produce.

Like every fresh strawberry I can find in local stores comes from California. That's well over 2,000 miles away. Those strawberries don't hold a candle to all varieties of strawberries I grow, in terms of flavor, and I don't do anything to mine except weed them. I don't even water them. The biggest difference is actually when I harvest. Since these go from the garden to my mouth, I can wait until they are as ripe as they can be before they start to rot. California growers that ship to my state can't wait that long. If they did, the strawberries would be rotten by the time they got here. Thus, the ones form California are more tart and have less sweet flavor.

As tip, if you want sweeter strawberries from the store, get the frozen ones. They are typically harvested later or don't pass the inspection because they are too ripe for normal shipment.

>>819656
My plant hasn't even sent vines out yet

>>819676
Let me chime in, I'm personally somewhat in the middle. I'm not against using """chemicals""" per se (every fucking thing in existence that isn't vacuum is a chemical), I have a more realistic look at it, so things like bio-degradability and long term affects should definitely be assessed and you have to find some healthy middle point (which for everyone has a different exact location)
Then again, for example strawberries you can buy at the mall or at roadside stands have been selected/bred for mass (yield per area) so they are watery and tasteless as fuck compared to what you can get out of your own garden, it's because people are just too scroogy, they don't want to pay €5/kg for a high quality product but rather €2-3/kg for a mediocre one, this sadly defines the mass market, it's human psychlogy at work
On the other hand there is for example the "Neuland" certificate (a German thing several classes above regular "organic"), but a single chicken raised that way will set you back €30, which is excessive on the other end of the spectrum for me, no way I'm paying this much. So while I see €2.50/chicken Aldi mass ware as too cheap, I'd be willing to pay around €10 personally

>>819664
It's like I'm really on /pol/!

>>819613
Guy you replied to giving you that deep (you) you're craving.

I didn't cover my potatoes propper so now they're all falling over. I dug one up to check-- it's just now producing spuds. Will they be okay? Zone 5b here, red potatoes.

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>>819729
I have a few that are progressing nicely. The squash borers have hit about have my plants really hard though.

>>819596
and
>>819753
is me btw in case that wasn't clear.

>>819686
>>819741
Agree with you both. I just find though, more often than not, that the 'organic' label is just no guarantee of quality. I've bought organic produce and found no difference in quality from it's conventionally produced brethren. The only difference is price.

The only time I've had good tasting produce is when I got some from a local guy who knows what he's doing. He wasn't qualified as organic, but he mostly avoided non-organic sprays and treatments. He produced pears, apples, apricots, and grapes. Chicken eggs too.

>>819762
Nice meller, do you grow for a company in Hawaii?

>>819777
>the 'organic' label is just no guarantee of quality.

It was never intended to be. It just helps the consumer know what was not used on the plants while growing.

>>819777
"Organic" is just a government label. If you want a lot of that really good and unique stuff, sometimes the best option is to grow it yourself and not worry about "organic." You can get cultivars to grow that you never see on a grocery store shelf, and you can ensure that your soil is nice and healthy.

>>819777
Yeah, it's best to start growing your own stuff to really check out the differences by yourself. I'm only into gardening for a year now, and I admit it takes lots of time and you have to overcome lots of failures (stupid ass potato blight on my tomatoes, REEEEEE), but if you get some sort of enjoyment out of it and don't directly calculate the time you've spent in your garden to money you could've made on your job (it's a really atrocious ratio, financially wise you only ""make""" about €2/hour in your garden or less nominally) but if you value the fact that it's your own produce, it's still "worth it" on personal level and you gain lots of experience

I for example never enjoyed any store-bought potatoes nearly as much as the own ones, the taste really is better from experience. Let alone F. vesca strawberries, small yield but such a unique, intense taste to them and you don't get to buy them anywhere

tl;dr you have to enjoy gardening at least a bit, sure there's annoying parts to it like pulling weeds, but once you get the hang of it it's a rather fun thing, also as a small bonus you get to lose weight without paying for a gym membership

>>819793
Another anon here.

To me the issue is not whether something is organic or GMO. Those terms are almost meaning less. Corn is technically GMO.

The real issue is the health cost/benefits and how the megacorps (like Monsanto) abuse and use farmers, growers, ect to make a profit. If a GMO plant produces more food more easily and there no health costs then there is little reason not to grow it.

The health costs are both on the environment and on the humans and animals eating the food grown.

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>>819793
Plenty of organic produce uses pesticides by disregarding the rules. Why not when you can charge dupes twice as much?

>>819793
This guy gets it. Good taste has nothing to do with organic, and everything to do with variety grown, and getting it when its picked, not a week later.

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>>819782
That's actually some kind of pumpkin, I forget which. I'm near Chicago, I just have a ton of matches.

Melons are popping up though.

>>819793
That is the entire reason these threads exist. lol

>>819798
Once you have an established flow you'll notice things are far easier. Although.....you'll then start planting more....

>>819812
decent! I wish my plant was that far along

>>819762
sleep tight pumpker

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>>819816
I do this every. Single. Time.

>>819810
Those look awesome

Any of y'all potato growers indulge in some new potatoes? Friend of mine just harvested some and invited me to eat some with fresh dill. So excited.

On another note, is thier a way to harvest some tubers without killing the plant? I'd like to have new potatoes during the season, but leave the rest in until later for a fall harvest and winter storage.

>>819832
Freshly harvested potatoes don't have much flavor. They need to sit around someplace cool for about 2+ months. Their skin will thicken as they age and they will deepen in flavor. You do the same thing with sweet potatoes and sunchokes (as little as 2 weeks for sunchokes in the fridge).

>>819807
> If a GMO plant produces more food more easily and there no health costs
there is no reason to assume there are no long-term healths costs. No reason at all. It's reckless to assume so because all they (monsanto, genetic modifiers) check for is "Did this thing turn the color we want/kill the bug we don't like/not die under X conditions" and "Did it result in immediate death of humans like super fast?" If the answer is yes and no then they send it out and call it food. That is a humongously stupid litmus test just like it would be dumb to call something unhealthy because it doesn't "make you super healthy and strong like super fast."

Just like no food will make you healthy overnight, no food will kill you overnight. So it is too soon to say there are no healthcosts to non-organic, GMO food unless you're a retard. Are you a retard, anon?

>>819849
Greenpeace please leave.

Not every GMO is from Monsanto. Not every modification is related to pesticides.

>>819849
What's the difference between 2 species of fruit? Their DNA structure! GMO just changes the DNA structure of 1 plant to have more desirable effects such as perform well in drought, or not be prone to pests.
Also vaccines cause autism.

Hey first time on /out/. I want to start a garden but the thing is I live in a forest and I have deers in the back. I also live in the city so I can't shoot them with out series legal problems. What sort of flowering plants can I grow?

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>>819854
You live in a city forest?

>>819852
(you)

>>819853
(y-you)

>>819861
Within city limits is what I believe he means.

>>819854
Foxglove is actually poisonous, and coneflowers are tough and resistant to most critters, and both come back every year. Marigolds are also resistant, but you replant them. Roses are a good choice too, since they scream 'fuck off' with thier thorns.

Deer are attracted to tender, tasty things (like hostas and lilies), while squirrels are fond of bulbs (like tulips and daffodils). The damn tree rats also just like to dig in soft, disturbed soil, so deter them from digging up your freshly installed plants with wire mesh over the soil or a thick layer of woodchips.

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Could someone please explain this planting chart to me? So the blacked areas are the times when you should plant the seed, right? Does this mean you can just put store bought seeds into the ground at this time or do you have to germinate them etc.? Thanks.

>>819901
Yes. Just follow the little legend at the bottom, you'll be fine.

>>819861
Yea this >>819893 close enough gunshots will get police to come investigate.
>>819899
Aight I'll try some of that, thanks man

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Rocket-poster reporting in
I decided to try and transplant some of my rocket out of the tub and into my garden
I feel like the rocket may still be too young. But I gave it a shot regardless, I've got plenty of rocket to work with anyway, so I transplanted about 3 or 4 bunches like pic related, and will transplant some more in about a week or so when they're a little larger

>>819918
KEK, I live in a little pocket of county where the cops theoretically will get called, but they never do, because my neighbors are based and know that I'm safe and am blasting something that they probably want blasted anyway.

This summer, it was 2 porcupines and 3-6 skunks. I wasn't going to stick my head into the culvert to confirm if I had nailed all 6 for the obvious reasons, but I know I nailed 3 for sure. My god, was that fun. All of the neighbors out in the street, trying to flush them out with smoke bombs and roman candles and me out there with the 12ga.

>>819955
>Hating on skunkbros
You monster.

>>819956
They're the monsters. Fuck those things, stealing eggs, spraying my dogs and my next door neighbor's dogs, then waddling around like they fucking own the place. And if you've ever smelled skunk spray close up and fresh, you know that it's nothing like a skunk that was hit last night on the road with its mildly annoying sent. It's like getting hit by a giant moving wall.

>>819959
>>819956
feels good to live in Australia
Never seen a skunk except for on the Loony Toons that I watched as a child

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Kale just won't die.

>>819979
It has a powerful will to live

Does anyone have tips on growing a three sisters garden?

>>819854
Start pissing all over your lawn. It helps.

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>>819986
That was transplanted from an indoor hydroponic set as well.

>>819959
Train your dog's better. Also how are they're stealing eggs? Do they open the doors to your laying boxes?

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Does anyone here have any experience with AeroGarden and if so is it worth getting one?

>>819762
>Coral Reef, Ala Moana

How old are those matches?
I've lived here for 8 years and that place was long gone when I got here.

>>820023
They'd work better is they had a backing. If your capable of wiring up a house lamp yourself I'd recommend you just build one yourself out of CFLs

>>819961
Except you have spiders

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>>820023
I've never used them, but it always seemed to me that they needed an ambient light source from a window. Especially with tall, dense, foliage plants like peppers and especially tomatoes. The short herbs and greens, not so much.

However, I grow greens in the winter using only some cheap, 4-feet long, double bulb, $25, shop lights. I used 2 of them over top some long trays I made. I had salad and cooked greens all winter. Although, they do cost more to run for electricity than LED lights.

I was growing lamb's quarters, spinach, hairy bittercress, and chickweed. (pics related) The only problem was the heat from the lights caused the spinach to bolt. So, a fan is required to vent the hot air out. That was due to the fact that I put aluminum reflectors on the sides to help bounce some light back in. Which really helped the plants grow more uniformly (a thing lacking I see with the AeroGarden designs).

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>>820060
I also made some chains out of fencing wire that I used to raise and lower the lights with when I was working with the plants and as they plants grew up. You have to keep the lights very close to the plants, less than two inches from their leaves. I'd usually wait until they reached to about 1/8" of an inch from the lights then raise the lights. I found that it was better to have all one type of plants under only one light because different types grow upwards at different speeds.

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Who here /landscape/ ???

>>820023
I've used them and even the big ones are smaller than they look. No way the tomatoes in that pic was grown under that light.

Unless you want something pretty to put on your counter top, there are much better ones that you can easily make yourself from a plastic tub and fish tank parts. probably much cheaper too, i think those run a couple hundred.

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>>820029
They're probably from the early 80s. I have a paper grocery bag full of 70s, 80s matches.

>>819961
This is the first time I've ever seen an Australian bragging about how the wildlife in their country is less dangerous.

>>820060
>I was growing lamb's quarters, spinach, hairy bittercress, and chickweed.

3 out of those 4 grow wild as weeds everywhere. Why bother growing them indoors?

>>820105
That's the kind of item you can sell to movie studio prop guys. They use that stuff for authenticity.

>>820142
Can I get more than a quarter?

>>820139
They are super easy to grow and are extremely tasty. Right now I have tons of lamb's quarter and purslane in my pepper beds. All of it gets eaten when I weed them out. I eat them fresh, cooked as greens in recipes that call for collards/spinach, I pressure can them, etc.

I don't even have to plant lamb's quarter most of the time. I merely scratch up the top inch of soil, water it, and wait. Or, you can seed one area heavily, till them in, and have them coming up fresh every time the soil is disturbed for years and years to come.

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I brought my lemon inside because squirrels have been digging up my potted plants

Its about 2 months old now, is it looking okay?

>>820166
Out of all of the edible weeds that I get, purslane is the only one that I like. It has a slight salty-lemony taste. It's also supposedly one of the most nutritious plants that you can eat.

>>820172
Looks good to my. Any idea what variety you've got?

>>820207
Wood sorrel has a nice, lemony flavor too, have you tried it?

>>820208
I took the seed from a lemon I got in a caesar salad so I'm not sure the variety or even if the seed was true

>>820210
I've never even seen that stuff around here. It looks a lot like clover, but the flowers look different than the clover flowers I get around here.

>>820207
Most of the wild stuff has more nutrition than the store stuff, hence tastier too.

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I let my cilantro get away from me and it currently is forming seed heads as you can see in pic related. If I pull the whole thing now and tie it up will they still become coriander? Im just going to plant new cilantro to use for salsa Verde when my tomatillos ripen.

I'm being overwhelmed by green beans. They kicked into full production this week and I'm pulling off a large salad bowl of them every two days. Those bastards are stealthy. Its tricky picking them too while trying not to break the plants.

I should start getting decent sized baby carrots in another week, and maybe some tomatoes.

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Too many trees in neighbors yards shading the garden. So now we mostly grow the stuff we like the most carrots, beans, and corn.

Neighbor to the west planted 8 trees in their backyard, and they've grown to the size to make about half the garden unsuitable for many plants. I grew potatoes in that shaded half last year. They got tall, spindly and flopped over but still managed to produce quite a few large potatoes so I planted them again this year.

>>820293
If it's on your side of the fence, I'm pretty sure you're allowed to tell them to fuck off with that shit.

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>>819254
>>819256
Hey Plantfags, me again. I've got video this time. I've been kicking garden ass all year and filming it. You can watch the whole year go by. 22nd episode is on youtube. https://youtu.be/P8sd1QId7zU

>>820212
Well you don't have a lemon tree then

>>820214
But it costs more per nutrition so it evens out

>>820314
Then what do I have?

>>820316
Considering I farm it myself and only water it, no. Once the garden is setup initially, planting, watering, weeding, harvesting, and processing/preserving are so few hours in the year that it pays for itself by the second year.

>>820335
A lemon tree.

>>819918
Consider learning to bow hunt.

How long does it usually take a squash plant to start producing once it flowers? My butternut squash plant has grown fairly large and started blooming, but I don't see any actual squashes yet.

>>820354
Squash has male and female flowers, and its the female flowers are the ones that set fruit. Probably all the flowers your seeing are male. Don't worry, it'll get female flowers, and therefore fruit, after this initial flush of male flowers. It might be a couple of weeks though.

In the meantime you can eat the flowers in stir-fry or batterd and fried, very tasty.

>>820362
Does severing the squash's flowers hurt the plant at all?

>>820365
Probably helps by allowing the plant to focus on the remaining flowers and fruit

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Time for my bi-daily melon autism, continued from >>818978
It has finally rained quite a bit (7.6mm/0.3") Thursday morning, and the last tow days have been rather cloudy and cooler than before (highs of 27C/81F yesterday, 30C/86F today)
Yet the fruit I'm monitoring apparently liked this more, as growth is accelerating again! Or Maybe there's some sort of delay in the response to weather?

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>>820335
Don't worry, even if you don't have "le speshul turbo crop graft", it still makes for nice ornamentals (I pulled my 2 genetic twins from a seed out of a store-bought run-of-the-mill lemon about a year ago), they now also start giving off their scent on their own (especially in hot weather) without me having to rub the leaves
Of course harvesting them isn't really my priority, they haven't flowered yet so far and it may take several years for them to start doing so if raised from seed.
Also grafts generally suck when it comes to longevity desu

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Don;t need this identified as I know what it is. Pulled it out of my pasture (where sheep graze). Tried to give you the shot that was easier to identify. Know what it is?

>>820387
looks like ground cherries. try pealing open one of those pods

>>820354
You probably only have male flowers
Are the flowers on long stems are right off the vine with a bulbasaur under it?

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>>820382
Everyone one I've grown of seen grown from a lemon seed have produced lemons. It isn't like you can really tell the difference between its lemons and its parent's lemon simply because of how horrific they are if you bite into them.

>>820382
Rhineland anon? Sorry about Munich

t. Canada

>>820387
Looks most definitely like some sort of Physalis, P. alkekengi grows almost weed-like here and comes back every year
>>820392
Like I said, if you're going after crops and high yields, use le grafts, if you want them solely as ornamentals, seedlings will do, and as a bonus you can see them grow up from the very start

>>820390
>>820387
Yeah, those are ground cherries (Physalis). Once ripe the fruit inside the lanterns are edible. Some are sweet and others are tart. It depends on the variety. Tomatillos (Physalis philadelphica) are similar to the various wild varieties.

>>820393
Yeah
>Sorry about Munich
Meh at this point I'm starting to get kinda numbed to these things. Sandnigs gonna sandnig

>>820166
I have tons of lambs quarters growing as weeds in my garden, can you suggest a recipe or point me to a page about eating them?

>>820397
Did not they arrest anybody?

>>820402
Not following the news too closely recently (I actually mute my radio to every full hour when the news come because I'm disgusted by the blatant SJW propaganda and opt to not wanting to hear anything about it, for about a year and a half now), but after some googling, seems they're still on the loose

>>820391
Long stems.
Also the bloomed flowers seem to be wilting/falling off really fast.

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I have a Nasturtium thats getting pretty big. I was wondering if this is the seed growing nest to the flower and how to tell when its ready.

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>>820397
I was there 5 years ago and it was very lovely

>>820405
Yeah senpai those are male flowers

Keep the pollen bit from the inside so when you get female flowers you can manually pollinate them without needing to wait for bees or birds to do it

>>820400
You can use any recipes calling for collards or spinach. That and leaves for salad are the most common uses. I prefer the young tender under 12 inch stems and leaves in the spring. The stems get stringy then woody as they age, but the leaves and tips are still fine eating.

http://www.motherearthnews.com/real-food/seasonal-recipes/lambsquarter-ze0z1412zcgp.aspx

http://www.mariquita.com/recipes/lambs%20quarters.htm

http://wildblessings.com/plants/lambs-quarter/

>>820408
Does pollen go bad? Or can I just pull the stamens off and keep them in a bag until the female flowers show up?

>>820406
Wait for it to dry out and the stem to die. Also, while they are big and still green and tender you can use them as a substitute for capers. Google, "Poor Man's Capers."

>>820412
That's what I do. I use a Q-tip and put it into a ziplock bag until the female flowers bloom. Just keep it dry and it should last a long time.

>>820407
Hope you didn't fall for the tourist trap meme that is the Oktoberfest.
€12 for a 0.9l of beer? One has to be a very good goy to find that acceptable
Although I'm 400km away from it, the city has much more to offer (and I've only been there once), definitely the best of our four >1M cities to visit

Woohoo, I have some NuMex peppers that are setting fruit and producing fruit during the month of July. It's normally hot enough here that they do not set or produce fruit here, and this July has been a hot one. I'm going to try to breed this trait into my chile, and then stabilize the cultivar. This could actually be a money maker for me! Chile growers in the area would love to have something that produces in July.

>>820419
We went in January

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I've tried growing Lemon Cucumber in my aquaponics system but I only get a lot of flowers and no fruits.
Has anybody got an idea why this is?
My regular cucumber is growing great in the same system Producing fruits of around 400-500gram per cucumber.

>>820419
We went to Berlin, Munich and my friend lived in Konstanz so we stayed there
I found Berlin very cheap for beer

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>>820439
here is a picture of today. The lemon cucumber is the plant on the right that is growing outside of the greenhouse.

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>>820438
Worst time to visit any part of Germoni desu, as our winters are usually snowless but have +5°C, drizzle and wind most of the time, plus the nature looks grey, brown and dead (aside from shit like chickweed which takes over the garden at that time and flowers left and right), this season (November to February) always feels the most depressing to me

Pretty climate specific question but...

I live in Southern California, is it too late in the game to plant lemon/lime trees in July/August?

>>820477
not sure about climate, but you could always leave them in pots for some time.

>>820439
Are there any female flowers/are they all male flowers?

>>820444
We went to Berlin for New year's eve
Ioved it

>>820532
Oh and it was a bargain because we didn't have to pay a separate cuck fee, it's included by LARPers who do it for free. German hospitality is second to none

>>820571
What ?

>>820703
What what?

>>819481
Wait until they are very soft when you squeeze them and also they will like hang down on the branch

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rate my tomatoes.

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>>820415
you can plant them while they're green desu, I've never had any issues with it.

here's my black/red varietion.

>>820439
I'm not sure why, but maybe they just fruit later? It would be odd if you never get fruit.

Patience, young grasshopper.

>>820439
Have you tried manually impregnating them with a male flower? Or at least shaking the plants a little here and there for dispersion

>>820750
Green tomatoes suck ass, newfag.looks like they need more sun

>>820785
they're not ripe yet, obviously.

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>>820750
Exactly right number of tomatoes per truss/10

I picked these this morning.

Anything I can grow in southern AZ?

>>820844
Pretty much anything you want with shade cloth, mulch for water retention, and preferably heat tolerant varieties. Do you get frosty mornings sometimes during the growing season at your elevation? If you do, you'll need row covers or frost-hardy plants.

The biggest question is, "What do you want to grow and what do you want to eat?"

How do I get rid of cucumber beetles they're killing my hundreds of squash...

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Small update.

That stump is GONE! It took longer than I wanted due to oppressive heat and humidity. I'm still shoveling gravel. I have the landscaping timbers I need and all the fencing I need. All the remaining paths are prepped for gravel; with plastic underlayment.

I can't wait to get the new fence up and electrify it. There's something starting to eat my tomatoes and all the cats in the neighborhood think my garden is a fine litter box.

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>>820849
I hate those things. They are so tiny, quick to take flight, and fast moving. There is some good info here on them:

http://articles.extension.org/pages/64274/managing-cucumber-beetles-in-organic-farming-systems

I want something like this thing. lol

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>>820855
Here's a few of the crops growing in the garden. I finally had some time and energy to tie up the cherry tomato plant I was going to simple layer (2nd pics from the bottom, 2nd-3rd rows). I'll hill up the soil, around the stems, and bury the stems laying on the ground. I don't think dividing them up into new plants will help and doing so mean more work for me.

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>>820858
Here's the 2nd garden. it was an open ground garden, but is being converted to a raised bed garden this year. It will also have gravel walkways, eventually.

>>820751
I was thinking more about being dry for seed storage.

>>820872
that isn't really needed unless your winters get really cold, I've had them in my garden for like 6 years now, their seed survives the winter.

>>820880
-40 is cold, yeah.

>>820885
yeah storing them might be good then, my winters only get to like -15C.

the seed is ready to be harvested if it starts looking dry, it'll lose that 'fresh' look that it has now.

I'm not sure why the other guy is talking about the stems drying out as I've never seen that happen on mine.

you don't really have to wait until it's ready though, you can just collect them and dry them afterwards, they'll probably have a lower germination rate though.

I've asked this before but the answer I got didn't really help. How do I trim for bushiness. The three plants I want to bush out are basil, sage, and rosemary. If someone could post a video or diagram that shows exactly which leaves to cut I would be in your debt.

>>820898
I found this so I'll share it if anyone has the same question: http://www.practicallyfunctional.com/how-to-prune-your-herbs/

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>>820855
Something like this works great to keep cats out. Cut it to fit your box then slit or cut holes for the plants. Or trap them and drown them or sell them to chingchongs

>>820904
Thanks, but I have 4 feet high welded wire fencing that will be electrified. I was using only a few strands of wire about 12 inches high and it kept cats out. They touch their nose to it first and never try to jump over it, though they could easily. Something about a few thousand volts seems to deter them completely from the area.

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>>820904
something like this works better to keep cats away.

How dry does rosemary like it's soil? I have it outside in a self-watering planter. Zone 8.

>>820914
What is that?

>>820918
A deadly plant, Monk's Hood (Aconitum).

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>>820922
it's also highly absorbent when it comes in contact with skin.

I also have them in white.

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Anyone know what causes lettuce to fade in colour? Too much sun? Too much water?

>>820907
How will you electrify welded wire and not ground it out?

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>>820915
This should be mild enough to plant them out in a permanent spot in the garden (8a here and almost every garden in the area has some), which is the optimum thing for them - let me show again the comparison between individuals of three sets of cuttings that were raised the same way and were in very spacious pots, only difference being planted out in April, May and June respectively (pics were taken a few weeks ago, meanwhile all of them have progressed quite a bit more), seems they really prefer being not rootbound
There isn't too much winter rain here though (about 30mm each month January to April which are the driest months), and they still don't like to be planted into heavy clay soil, so mix in some sand and/or give it a raised position for improved drainage

>>821135
I use fiberglass fence posts.

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Buzz buzz.

Mint's looking to get more prolific.

>>821156
Interesting.

Not trying to bust your balls, not really, but I'm curious about this.

Are these like hog panels, or a roll of woven wire?

What's the spacing of verticals and horizontals? Do you try to keep the wire suspended off the ground? How do you connect the wire to the rods? What do you use as a gate?

>>821174
You can see the rolls in the photos, >>820855 bottom pic in the center. Holes are 2" x 4". Not woven, just welded. Heavy gauge. It will be just above landscaping timbers. The rods have metal hangers on them. However, I may actually be putting up some landscaping timbers as posts too; which is what I normally use. I have a ton of various fencing things from various old projects. I'll wing it until I get something I like that is properly isolated and solid. Fencing is 4 feet high, but I was going to use 2 feet high stuff but it is twice as expensive as the 4' stuff.

Gates will be hog panels, big welded rod-like stuff.

>>820404
>(I actually mute my radio to every full hour when the news come because I'm disgusted by the blatant SJW propaganda and opt to not wanting to hear anything about it, for about a year and a half now),

I know that feel. I have to wonder if it was always there and I never noticed it, or if something has seriously changed in our culture recently.

>>820443

Yeah, pollination would be my guess. I planted 5 or 6 on a row on one side of one of my grow beds - I gave them a structure to climb but let them bunch of a little first. They were going good until aphids attacked the hell out of them (brought it under control using herb oil spray - safe for fish).

They've grown good with 7.0-7.4 pH and low-ish potassium in the system.

Anyone here informed on growing and harvesting hemp?

>>820750
Liver spots/10

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>>820750

>>821257
SWEET JAYSUS

>>821133
Retards who grow lettuce at the end of July causes it

>>821295
Retards who think the world has only one hemisphere

>>821314
>>821295
Not to mention certain cultivars thrive in heat.

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Does this look like fusarium rot? My watermelon vines had a 5-6 fruits but most of them turned brown and fell off, although that was before the discoloration of the vine. Theres still two on the vine that are growing great but thats about it, and no more flowers whatsoever...

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>>821241
>>820491
>>820758
>>820778

So I checked the flowers and I had a lot of male and only a few female flowers. I have started (2 days ago) to pollinated the flower manually with a brush and discovered the first fruit today. While I was checking today i also had the company of +10 bee's. So i will be stopping with the manual pollination and let the bee's do their work. I hope to see some more fruits during this week.

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>>821362
I'm not sure, but is that in a pot? Every water melon I've ever had in a pot always did very poorly.

>>821236
Not that anon, but I stopped listening to the news about 20 or so years ago. It is all the same thing over and over through the decades. There's always some minority demographic being abused/protesting for their rights. Always destabilization in the middle east. Always some new killer virus. Always some political bashing. Always some new way to give more power to the government. Always sensationalist violence. You should be angry about this and sympathetic about that.

Not worth my time. Not even for weather reports even though I'm a farmer. It is the same weather as always. Always the hottest day, the coldest day, the biggest storm ever, the most snow ever seen, etc.

So, I go outside to my garden and look around. No violence, no random minority group protesting, no killer viruses, no government, no politicians, just me and nature. I farm, I harvest, I eat, and go about local business.

If where you live is filled with shit you don't like, move to a better location, or fix it.

>>821399
I just use Google's local weather function when I want to check the weather. The news isn't worth keeping up with, though my sister never shuts up about this cop killing or that, I've learned to tune her out.

>>821236
It's gotten way worse. PBS used to be the most left wing. They haven't changed much but the rest are now extreme left except fox which is now liberal lapdogs

>>821362
It looks like lack of sun, or over or underwatered

>>821314
>>821356

>Is my plant getting too much sun in the winter

Learn to read nigger

Has anyone grown marigolds from seed? I wanted mint marigolds for my garden, but as I couldn't find plants, I ordered seeds. I tried sprouting them indoors like all my other plants, in a dome on heat mat. The others-like peppers and tomatoes-sprouted fine, but none of the marigolds did. I tried two times, and each time they never sprouted. Did I get scammed and you cant actually propagate marigolds from seed or something?

>>821567
No experience sprouting marigolds but adding a little 3% h202 to the water will help sprout seeds in general

I'd like to point out that the previous thread has only now reached page ten, meaning we could easily have had two hundred more posts there.

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>>821567
>Has anyone grown marigolds from seed?
only on runescape, does that count?

>>821601
It's the new friends who make new threads after we're on page 2 after the bump limit

>>821567
I do that every year. Only I just plant them outside and move sprouts as needed.

>>821601
We'd have several gardening threads by then because people don't know how to use the catalog.

>>821617
>slow board
>not using the catalog
That's their problem.

>>821618
It is everyone's problem because "gardenfags" are to blame.

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hello friends. should i trim off these damaged leaves? my banana and serrano pepper plants got a few scraggly lookin ones. bell peps got one or two.

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>>821648
full shot of the pepper garden.

>>821567

I planted some straight in the ground a couple years back and they did fine though it did take a while. Tried it again this year but I underestimated how big my tomato plants would get and they've completely crowded them out.

>>821616
don't be jealous of my construction level.

>>821648
Yes, when they are that much yellow go ahead and snap them off. If they have a few brown spots and no yellow taking over then leave them.

>>821656
LOL deleting posts again
Autism

>>821512
>what is an equator

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More Serranos. It's a pretty small plant but still produces like crazy.

Anyone got a good red salsa recipe they'd like to share?

>>821693
You should let some go red so they produce viable seeds

Hey friends, can somebody give an advice? I want to plant some spices in my kitchen, parsley, thyme, basil maybe even a plant of cherry tomatoes and maybe some salad but the trick is there is no sunlight so I was thinking of instaling some light for it, what light is suitable for that?

>>821695
Oh most definitely. I've been harvesting my Jalapenos, Bells, and Serranos early to spur more production later in the season. The final batch will be allowed to fully ripen.

>>821601
Once it hits page 3 or so after bump limit though, the thread is like 1/10 of its regular activity. I personally wouldn't mind posting until it dies (have the tab open 24/7 anyways and always wait for the old one to die while also having the new one open), but t I don't want 14-day hiatuses of slow posting either

>>821698
Lamiaceae in general are absolute light guzzlers. While mint and lemon balm are exceptions to this (they grow non-leggy here on an Eastern window even at 50°N during winter, meaning only 8.5h daylight in that period), rosemary, thyme and oregano already don't like the southern window during equinox (still slightly leggy), while sage will become extremely leggy even if backed by alu foil coated cardboard, and even in places outside in the gaden where there's no complete full sun all day.
So this is how I'd rank them: Lemon balm and mint accept partial shade, rosemary and thyme will do acceptably well in the garden if not all sunny and only do well if in full sun, while sage requires all the sun it can get, does best during our 16 hour days in late June combined with clear weather

Does excessive heat kill seedlings? All my established plants are doing fine, but I planted some lettuce and spinach seeds in outside pots 10 or so days ago and nothing's showing above the dirt yet.

>>821753
A lot of lettuce won't even germinate if it is too warm. It is a cool weather plant. Spinach is probably the same way with the germination, and it is also a cool weather plant. I normally wait until mid to late August when things have cooled off around here to plant that stuff for the fall.

Besides, heat causes lettuce to bolt, which makes it taste like shit. Also, if I have a cover ready to go, the lettuce will grow all winter and I can have fresh lettuce that way. I'm in 8b, BTW.

>>821759
What about bell peppers? I germinated some bell pepper seeds in a paper towel and planted one in a pot at least a week ago, and it has yet to show above the soil either.

>>821763
peppers can take a long time. at least mine always do.

>>821763
Most peppers are just fine with heat. If it hasn't emerged by this time if you pre-germinated it, I would start over. I like to use 2-4 seeds in a spot and thin later when one shows itself to be more robust than the others.

>>821753
I'd say so, from my experience with sage. The seeds planted in February behind the window, with always around 20-30°C germinated fine, but then I tried a second batch in May, and I realised it got extremely hot under the plastic foil covered pot (to keep up moisture) as it sat in the sun (>50°C), and none of the ~10 seeds I put in there ever sprouted

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My vines are filling in nicely. This was a crazy last minute idea, I should have start a couple weeks earlier.

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>>819254
I cant seem to identify what type of plant this is. Got it at my local hardware store's garden center.
Please help!

>>821780
Nasturtium
>>820751
>>820406

>>821782
just end it all.

>>821782
>Nasturtium
It does not flower though.

>>821782
>>821784
I've had this plant for about 2 years and just started wanting to find out what kind it is. In the 2 years, it has not flowered at all, otherwise I would be convinced it was indeed Nasturtium.

>>821783
I will if I ever consider using a trip

>>821780
>>821782
>>821784
>>821786
Geranium.

If there is too little light or too much fertilizer, they won't bloom.

>>821793
They wont even have any sort of pod on them to indicate that it should be flowering? It's just leaves.

Honestly i'm not very knowledgable on plants.

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I collected these wild raspberry canes

I just cut them at the base, cut all fruit and dead leaves off of them and stuck them in this water
Is there a good chance they will root? I will pick up rooting hormone this week too

Plont replies will be ignored

>>821798
Just leaves. A few plants are like that. Pineapple is one too.

>>821835
Cut those up into 6"-8" sticks. Leave the leaves of the top of each stick alone, but remove the rest. Bury them until only 2" of stick it above the soil. Keep well watered.

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>>821798
Geranium is a plant that likes lots and lots of sunlight. It won't flower until it gets some. I have one that's just a single stalk, it was part of a bigger plant that my aunt had, but she neglected it. I don't think I'm doing it right, but at least I water it occasionally.

>>821879
I'll do this after I get rooting hormone

So even a middle stock will root?

>>821399
>>821511
Definitely not lack of sun, more likely the overwatering (hence the fusarium worry). They are potted and were doing great initially but suddenly dropped off after the first couple of fruit sets started to mature. I have a few watermelons in a raised bed that are still doing very well though.

Did you use loamy soil for the watermelons you potted? I'm wondering if that would make a significant difference.

>>821512

I was referring to >>821295 you dumb shit.

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Now I may not have planted much of anything in my life, but I really don't think I should be failing at growing fucking parsley in potting mix.

Two have already wilted and died, the rest haven't grown as much as I thought it would (planted 2 wks ago from seedlings). I mixed in some plant food to help. There are (were?) 4 in the bigger pot and 2 in the smaller pot, now more like 3 and 1.

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>>822007
A closer look at big pot.

There's some white spots around the wilted one that I suspect are from me overwatering in the first week, but I think the potting mix I used might be very old and shit. I don't know.

>>822008
>>822007
The growth rate looks about on track honestly. Is that corn in there what the hell is that?

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>>822009
That's the plant food.

Should I worry that the others might die also? That's the main thing i'm concerned about. When I planted them they were about the size of this pic I got from google, in retrospect and in looking at the pic I may have overestimated how fast parsley grows.

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Hey guys help me identify this pepper plant...

>>822012
Probably not. If I remember correctly parsley is one of the herbs that actually tastes better with a certain amount of stress. If you're really worried though you could add an all purpose fertilizer or add a little liquid seaweed, its like the sriracha of plants. Also remember with the food just sitting on the top like that its not actually going into the plants, you need to mix it into the soil so the nutrients can leech out.

>>822030
Medusa

>>822034
Are you sure?
Does that mean the peppers will change colours ?

>>822039
They should with maturity.

>>821883
Everything on raspberry canes will root. Blackberries won't, but raspberries are pretty amazing at rooting. Good luck.

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>>822100
blackberries root from their canes as well.

>>822114
Will you fuck off?

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>>822116
n0

>wall update.

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>>822120
The great wall of autism
Go play runescape you insufferable faggot

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>>822122
>mfw your yard.

>>822114
Not in the manner and voracity that raspberries do. It is best to dig up their rhizomes that can start buds.

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>>822137
that's probably because blackberry stems are a lot smoother.

they're prone to layering.

>>821567
that's weird, i've grown marigolds for the second year in a row from seed, this year from stuff i saved last year, and they've always done great. Just try to direct sow them if you can, they should sprout in a few days.

>>821780
>>821793
Nah it's definitely Coral Bells (Heuchera)

>>822177
or a tiarella.

>>821567
>>822172
I grow some marigolds from seeds every year, but I've had no luck getting them to reseed.

>>821187
Interesting. I guess it shouldn't ground out too easily if the posts are dry enough. I've never heard of electrifying woven wire (or barbed, or chain link, etc). Let us (me) know what you charge it with and what kind of voltage you're getting in the wires.

>>822196
interesting, i plant and save a fuck load of seeds, i think the germination rates are shit, maybe about 50% of what i planted actually sprout up

>>822226
It won't actually touch the wood. The solar fence charger is in the middle image in >>820855 2-3kv continuous, 11kv peak.

I'm not using woven wire. I'm using welded wire. It'd be nice if it was also woven to stop a tore off wire from stripping off down the line.

>>821736
LOL that doesn't answer my question at all.

>>821763
let the roots get nice and long in the paper towel before planting in soil. i grow super hots and they achieve cotyledons much faster this way.

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>>819254

has someone built the deep pipe irrigation system in pic related?
What did you use for filling the holes (so roots don't grow in them)?

>>822368
Pretty much nothing will prevent them from growing into the holes.

>>822368
Try "olla" irrigation. Same thing but using unglazed clay pots (=no holes)

where have the torrents gone?

>>822405
The torrent site in the links is down. The names for the torrents could have stayed, they can still be found other places.

What's a good insecticide for fungus gnats?

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I planted my raspberry canes
Did I do good?

Plont replies will be ignored

>>822410
I just let the soil dry between two waterings. I guess pyrethrin works well also, or BT. But unless it is seedlings, I wouldn't personally care

>>822425
That should work keep them watered and moist all the time. Wait for new growth. It will be hit or miss as to which ones will grow. You may want to use a shade cloth on the ones that have leaves.

>>822444
It's on the inside of a cedar hedge so they're never in direct sun for very long
I also kept some stems in water incase some of these don't make it

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Edible? Y/N

>>822505
It vaguely does look like some sort of Ribes, but again, don't take my word for it, consume at own risk yadda yadda.
I actually came across some definite R. rubrum in a nearby forest recently which I ate from like 20-30 berries to no ill effect, but your pic looks somewhat different, concerning leaf shape. I'm form Yurop though where it's native, if you're from Murrica you probably have different species of it growing wild

>>822511
Here we have R. montigenum and that certainly isn't it. It really looks more like some kind of elderberry but ill have to see if the berries darken.

>>822505
No!

Actaea rubra

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actaea_rubra#Toxicity

>>822511
Not a current, everything is wrong.

>>822523
Not an elderberry. Leaves are wrong to start with.

>>822452
Good call.

>>822536
Sheeeeeiiiiit

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found out what kind of tomatoes I have, menhir f1 hybrid meat-tomatoes, extremely virus resistant.

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>>822761
also they're finally starting to get red.

>>822761
Disgusting

>>822761
Autism

>>822761
>>822765
And where does one aquire such tomatoes?

>>822120
So sexy m8. Tfw neet living in a shitty rental with mum and a shitty small garden.

>>822777
I'm send thousands of free packages each year, but you can buy them here as well https://www.dezaden.nl/zaden/groentezaden/tomaten/

>>822007
>>822008
>>822012
Seriously this person I've been gardening for has parsley coming up everywhere it's impossible to get rid of it all. It's a horrible weed imo.

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>>822779
I had a pretty sweet balcony back when I lived in an apartment.

>>822782
are you sure they're not wild carrots?

that's what I've been dealing with the past few years.

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>>822783
Yeah I have a lot of stuff in pots but a lot of stuff just doesn't take well to containers. I planted a few things in the tiny garden that's there. Planted a large tithonia rotundifolia and some helianthus Maximilianii. Basically stuff that grows taller rather than wide. Then again I did plant some gaillardia that has grown all over the cement path since there's not enough room for it,thats another one that doesn't grow well for me at all in a container but in the ground it goes crazy. At least the garden here has a an old rose that is quite large and nice looking. Pic related is dianthus, something that actually does better in container than the soil here.

>>822786
I don't know actually. They do have a small ( very small compared to carrots, then again the ground here is far too compact for root vegetables to form properly) but thick-ish white tap root that they can keep growing back from. They looked similar to the parsley though. Actually I just googled it and I think it is that wild carrot. Interesting!

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>>822791
Daucus carota only has a small long white root.

do you feed your native birds during the winter?

>>822792
No I don't bother I hate birds

>>822792
Na, what do they eat? I am growing (well they self seed since its a weed) some solanum nigrum berries down the side of the house,birds like those but I guess they won't be producing well till spring. By spring I'll have a lot of caterpillars on my nettles too which I expect birds to eat.

>>822794
does someone nearby you do it then?

D. carota seeds are in regular bird food, that's how I got it in my garden.

>>822797
no idea, I'm just asking because >>822798

I have some Solanum dulcamara growing in a large pot to lure Turdus philomelos to my garden.

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While carefully moving my corn around, watching out for saddleback caterpillars, I found some Automeris io caterpillars instead. They are not as vicious as the saddlebacks, but they still hurt quite a bit.

>>822798
100s of wild birds transport seeds all over like that. They can be dropped anywhere along their busy routes.

>>822848
nah I've been feeding the birds all winter and they're all over the place where I put the seed.

might be the birds bringing it with them, but I think it's just one of the seeds in the mix.

>>822850
>but I think it's just one of the seeds in the mix.
No
This is retarded

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>>822859
I just checked the seed, they're in it, degenerate.

>>822867
How'd your parents react when the doctor told them you were autistic?

>>822867
Post a pic of your bird seed you literal retard

>>822850
I wasn't talking about your stuff, obviously, since you stated that already.

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I keep finding these transluscent fish egg looking things in my pots, first in my peppermint and now one in my rosemary. What is it? They pop like fish eggs and have liquid inside. I would think they were liquid fertilizer or something but I know I didn't place them there and the newest one I found was placed there by something.

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>>822877

>>822877
If you bought any of you plants they could have been in the soil that they used.

>>822879
I bought them both but also repotted them. For the peppermint it was on top of the potting soil outside of the bounds of the pot it came in. Same thing with the rosemary pot except additionally it wasn't there a couple days ago and was in its own hole, like a squirrel dug and put it there except I know it wasn't put there by a squirrel.

>>822877
>>822878
Snail/slug eggs. Destroy at will.

>>822850
>>822867
Isn't that an invasive species where you live?

>>822882
Thanks.

>>822876
mine is just an average bird seed product though.
>>822884
nah, it's common but not invasive as far as I know.

>>822889
I just checked, it is a "low impact" invasive species in your country. Odd that it is allowed.

>>822890
cats are invasive and they're allowed worldwide.

I also have Pisum sativum in my bird seed, which is pretty nice.

too bad almost all of them except one have been eaten by slugs/my tortoises so far.

>>822892
>tortoises
Literally the pet for autists
More autistic than hamsters

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>>822893
no that's cats and african grey parrots.

>>822892
Cats are not invasive because they don't do well in the wild. They tend to be predated on by many animals that eat the kittens. The only ones that survive are normally being fed by humans and may even have special shelters made for them.

Invasive species become naturalized to the area they are introduced to. If they don't naturalize, they can't become invasive.

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>>822898
>because they don't do well in the wild.
they don't do well individually, they do fine as a species.

'An invasive species is a plant, fungus, or animal species that is not native to a specific location (an introduced species), and which has a tendency to spread to a degree believed to cause damage to the environment, human economy or human health.'

they don't have to be naturalized.

cats are literally the most invasive pest species on earth, they're worse than canetoads and rats combined.

>>822902
>cats are literally the most invasive pest species on earth, they're worse than canetoads and rats combined.
You're using this as an excuse for why its ok for you to do something you know is wrong. Most people that realize a cat is an invasive species keep them indoors. you're a cunt m8

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>>822905
>something you know is wrong.
it's not wrong to trap and kill vermin.

/out/ isn't the place for you if that's what you think, maybe try >>>/mlp/ they might agree with you ;^)

>>820293
It looks good

>>822906
Go be an edgy cat killing 14 year old somewhere else champ

>;^)
Confirmed underage dipshit

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>>822929
>>822952
Haha you got BTFO by a tripfag. And he's right you know

>>822982
>domestic cats are the most invasive animal species on earth

Out of all of the retarded things you've ever posted this is by far the most retarded

>Cane toads
>Zebra mussels
>European earth worm
>black rats
et. al.

You should really consider fucking off

>>822982
Everything you are posting is incorrect. If my factual, non-emotional, presentation of information is for some reason angering you, I suggest taking a break from the computer/mobile.

>>823003
Black rats are out-competed (and therefore less invasive) than grey rats.

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