Whats the best multitool /out/?

>>763831
not that shit for sure
probably the surge, some might like more specialized ones for purposes

>>763831
swisstool

>>763831
Does the knife and saw lock open on those ones?

>>764085
I have a BG tool and they lock, I don't care what ppl say about BG but Gerber makes quality stuff.

>>764174
>thank you for your post. 0.0000440859 BTC has been deposited into your account.

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>>764174
>>764181
>>763851
>>763831
People will give me shit but I lose my Gerber Strata. They don't make them anymore but I have had it for like... I think 6 years and it has served me quite well. I carry it in my pocket every day.

But to be perfectly honest, I am looking at getting a Wave. I really really like having scissors. I use them all the fuckin time.

>>764247
>lose
I meant love.

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>>764247

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>>764252
It's the only picture I have of it, I took it for an EDC thread on /k/.

Your jealousy is delicious.

>>764265
>jealousy
No, it's just funny because it's true.

>>764247
leatherman files can also cut steel. their file is what gave me brand loyalty. and the factory edge on their knives

I have a swisschamp. Is it worth getting a wave as well?

>>764265
>tfw the age of nuggets is over
>tfw you weren't into /k/ at the time

Why even live

>>764174

It's not the tools that are fucked, it's the price increase on top of the fucking butt-ugly BG logo plastered all over those things in big orange plastic letters.

>>763831
surge

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>>764271
It is pretty funny how it's true that I have freedom and am allowed to defend myself from criminals without going to prison.

How's it feel to get raped by criminals and the only thing your government allows you to do is bend over and take it?

>>764467

Like when that dude shot that black kid?

>>764477
No like how we have more legal self-defense options than a rape alarm or a brightly colored dye spray.

>>764488

>MFW Americans think that's what the rest of the world is like

Try leaving your country some time. Actually, don't.

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>>764477
Hindsight is 20/20, maybe if Nigvon had held up his student ID card Zimmerspic would have kindly let him beat him to death like a good Eurocuck would to avoid the controversy.

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>>764477
>hurr guns make people kill each other; stawp gun violence!

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>>764477
Sure would be nice to be able to submit multiple images.

>>763831
I have the Wave its bretty good

Not sure what Id ever need most of the shit for while /out/ though

>>764297
Nuggets have been OP for about 10 years now... ur beyond "just missed" lol

>>765042
anything below 1 million, is shameful desu.

>tfw you realize India has a FUCKTON of guns as well.

we better keep an eye on those dirty fuckers. india has 33,250,000 MORE guns then Russia.

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>Whats the best multitool /out/?
pic related

>>765043
Am I not seeing someone beat Alaska in the percent of households with guns?

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/thread

>>765034
Convince me otherwise.

http://www.commonsensepost.net/2016/01/28/europes-criminalization-of-self-defense/

https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q589.htm

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/an-assault-on-our-right-to-selfprotection/news-story/f743f8b76f21a586a6efb2396c9b2f8d

http://www.as-coa.org/articles/explainer-gun-laws-latin-americas-six-largest-economies

Google the rest yourself, plenty of evidence out there.

I have left the country before. I prefer not to.

>>763831
Depends. Are we talking functionality over value here?

My wingman does everything I need it to and it only cost me around 30 bucks.

So IMO, the wingman. Or the sidekick.

That one's cheap too.

>>765043

Nice mspaint job, anon

>>765083

>convince me otherwise

Kek

Better you stay there, Americuck.

Don't forget to vote for Drumpf

Also, >>765040
notice how you're the only first world country on that list? Yeah. And you're proud of it kek

>America: Doing it wrong and thinking it's better since 1492

It's like watching a retard stab himself in the face. It's kind of funny, kind of sad, but at the same time nobody wants to stop him cause he's only hurting himself.

>>765040
>greenland

what the actual fuck

>>763879
/thread

>>765063
the signal is a wave they decided to meme and charge 20 extra dollars for

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>>765133
I own both so now what underage /b/?

>>765218
oh thanks for the vanity pic. but im the underaged one right. you dont get the opportunity in life to show off how many multitools you have? you feel like showing people you own multiple will make you too autistic? dont worry, theyll only think you are as autistic as your really are, so nothing lost

kudos on trying to go on the offensive though. you knew you are about to do some pussy shit, so you got ahead of the curve and accuse me of being some troll

>>765218
>>765226

Just suck each other's cocks and get it over with

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>>765090
Lol. Wow. You really are bitter that we have more money, freedom and military might than you ever have before or will ever have.

So if someone breaks into your house wherever you live (presumably the UK, you guys are always stupidly fucking ignorant when it comes to real life and continue to argue about it) and intending to harm or kill you, what are you gonna do? Yell real loud? Pee your pants and throw up on yourself so you don't get raped? Jump out a window? Cry? Pray? Beg on your knees? I guarantee you all your unarmed police laughing stocks are going to do is show up to clean up your corpse. Your criminals have cucked you guys so fucking hard into disarming yourselves and spreading your legs for them they can literally just walk in your fucking door, rape your wife in front of you, then steal your shit and there's nothing you can do about it.

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>>765034
>>765090

>be bong
>get home from cricket match, westchester blokes beat us fivewiggy to trufflebum
>I dont like Westchester blokes
>set my cricket bat down against the wall as I take off my jersey
>head to shower (in tea of course)
>get out of shower
>eat dinner with state approved spoons
>watch the telly, news says police recovered a cache of illegal branches underneath a tree, 7 arrested in conjunction
>officers awarded medal of bravery
>2:30am
>downright knackered
>blimey better head off to beddy snuggery
>tuck myself in, say obligatory god save the queen
>roll over and blink before nodding off
>ohbloodyhell.Tiff
>see cricket bat against wall
>forgot to lock it in govt approved weapon locker that locks automatically from hours of 8pm to 9 am
>CCTV camera zooms into my window for required nightly check
>spots bat
>floodlights fill my room with blinding light
>elite police force rappels from helicopter, smashing through my windows
>flashbangs jar me senseless
>in a haze see police in EOD suit place cricket bat in metal container
>police begin tearing up floorboards
>EOD cop leans down into house framework
>BLIMEY! he says as he comes back up holding rusted 4" piece of rebar
>dragged outside into waiting wagon
>charged with 50 counts domestic terrorism and 40 counts possessing dangerous weapons

Such is life in bongistan

>>765379
kek nice almost fiction
you overplayed the police a little in bongistan they would smile and apologize for the disturbance and of course bring you nice warm tea and you would get handcuffed with bio-neutral fake-fur lined handcuffs and they would do it very quietly not to disturb your neighbors.

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>>765380
kek

>>764290
No. You have reached the top. Everything else is inferior.

>>765083
And therein is your problem. You just google for sites that echo your opinion.

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>>765226
That wasn't all my multitools little fella.

>>765532
Show me a something, anything, that states otherwise.

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>>765043
Better map.

>>765537
that feel when you spent so much money on tools but have 0 mechanical sense. you need them to fix the swivel chair in the office?

little fella

>>765605
Hey man, everybody loves the guy in the office who can fix their squeaky chair.

>>765367

Kek

>Not sure if you're inventing or projecting

>we have more money, freedom and military might

No you don't lol

Also, not a britbong. You guys really do focus on them though. It's amazing how none of you understand that it's not just the bongs and sandniggers don't like you; it's most of the western world, too.

>>765379

Good one chap, super wizard chuckley-read

>>765541

Mad mspaint skillz, yo

>>765621

>MFW WD40 does the job
>MFW tools not required

>>765541

Source: Southern Florida School Of Specious Reasoning

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>>765040
>mfw my country does not even come in that chart
>mfw we never had a mass shooting here

I still wish that was easy to get a gun, at least pistols and shotguns.

>>763831
I have a $15 one that I picked up from a store

>>765850
Hahahahahahahaha

Oh wow.

So where do you live then, hmm? Let's hear it.

>>765873
Where do you live?
>that gif makes me want to fuck the shit out of that chick


And why is Greenland so violent?

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>>765605
That feel when I haven't seen any office chairs outside. I'll let you know when I come across one though.

>>765921
Bro, not him but please stop supporting and discuss your multitools in this multitool thread. I would like to know your thoughts on the SOG, compared to the leather man's.

Also what's special about the crunch?

>>765932
Shitposting* my humble apologies. Also, which would you recommend for someone who is an avid sailor, kayaker, diver, fisherman, camper, hunter, and husband (lot of basic housework)??

Which of your multis would be best suited for the most of those things?

>>765932
The sog has the best pliers of the bunch but it has real flimsy blades, leathermans are thicker and the signal is even thicker than that. The sog also rusts but that is just because the leathermans I have are stainless. The Crunch I got for christmas.
>>765934
The wave.

>>763831
I had a Leatherman PST II for about nine years and it was the best thing I ever had.

Then my car got stolen, and my Leatherman along with it, since I had a tendency to keep it in the car. I still have the holster for it, though.

I have a Victorinox Swisschamp, still my favourite MT. I know it doesn't have pliers as good as something like a Leatherman but I figure pliers aren't super important for /out/

>>765894

Where do you reckon, you fuckin cunt

>Yes, we like to use that word a lot
>But you actually are one

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>>765090
>the only first world country on that list?

Actually, pretty much every country is on that list you illiterate retard

>>765541
>'gun deaths'

Your argument that guns are any kind of catalyst in either murder or suicide has been officially been blown the fuck out. Feel free to kill yourself at any time using a method of your choice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvZbq7AzQ3g

>>765541

So... the stronger the gun laws are, the less people die? Sounds about right.

>>765043
And the more guns that are owned, the higher the murder rate. Are you arguing against yourself without realising it?

>>765043

>Based on survey data

Not on official registrations or even law enforcement siezures kek

Criminals not included

>>765924
>>765106
Greenland has a very low population (55k) and this "rate" is based on incidents "per 100,000 people". If you look at the pure numbers only 11 people were killed in Greenland so it's a bit misleading.

>>766081
Right, that's the point, the amount of guns could actually be even higher in many areas where it appears low. Surveys are useless.

>>766079
>So... the stronger the gun laws are, the less people die? Sounds about right.

That person wasn't me, and do you understand the implication of separating gun deaths from all other deaths?

>And the more guns that are owned, the higher the murder rate.

Look at the map again, there is not a correlation between gun ownership and the murder rate.

Are you blind or retarded?

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>>764252

Kek indeed

>>764265
Civilized people dont need guns

>>766084

You got a case of the ol' spastics there champ

You can run, but you can't hide from your own stupidity. Unless you keep running into the door until you pass out.

Mspaint isn't a source.

>>766085

They can't even show statistics without including pictures of guns kek

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>>766084

BLAMMO

>t. United States

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I have The Charge TTI and it never Let me down.

>>766076
>asked where you live
>WHERE WE SAY CUNT A LOT YA CUNT OI M8

Mature.

I literally posted an article specifically about Australia in my earlier post, a special one, just for you. In case you have a hard time finding it, here's the jist:

"In legal terms, Australians have a right of self-defence. While some states rely on the common law and others have it enshrined in statute, the right itself is never questioned. Moreover, juries consistently refuse to convict those charged with serious offences whenever self-defence is made out.

What we don’t have is the practical ability to exercise that right. Possessing any object specifically for the purpose of self-defence, lethal or non-lethal, is a criminal offence. There are many women, raped and/or murdered, who would have been liable to prosecution had they been carrying anything that might have saved them."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/an-assault-on-our-right-to-selfprotection/news-story/f743f8b76f21a586a6efb2396c9b2f8d

In other words "hey criminals, we're all unarmed, come fuck us up and do whatever you want to our women and children, we will not defend ourselves." That is the message you are sending. You are literally banking on the good will of others for your own safety. Good luck with that.

Here's another for you, just for fun: http://m.baka.com.au/comment/lindt-cafe-hostages-like-the-rest-of-us-denied-the-practical-right-to-selfdefence-20141218-129q4r.html

>>766326

>Has to ask where I came from
>Travels back in time and posts article specially for moi

You know what an editorial is, surely. Here's a tutorial: it's opinion, not bound by factual correctness. Like fox news, but actually labelled as opinion.

It's not even clear what you're trying to say any more, you're just getting all butthurt over yourself.

Mass shootings in Australia in the last 20 years:

Zero.

>Mature
You know by taking this so seriously you're showing how lacking in content your argument is?

You should also at least try to post one factual, scientific, proven, reliable, peer related source.

>>766326

Yeah fuck off cunt

Fuckin seppo

>>765988
>Leatherman PST II
seconded. im pretty sure they made this leatherman for women, but this is far my favorite and most long lasting one. literally retarded that leatherman doesnt put files on every model

>>766104
>paying premium for meme metals

>>766363
>factual, scientific, proven

You have to be fucking kidding me.

Can you legal carry a fuckin gun? No? Then you don't have the right to defend yourself with a gun.

Can you carry anything else meant for self defense and actually use it in self defense? No? Then you don't have the fucking right to self defense.

How hard is that to understand?

>zero mass shootings
Holy shit lol! Here's some more, only in the last 20 years of course:

Port Arthur Massacre (1996): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacre_(Australia)

Monash University shooting (2002): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monash_University_shooting

Hectorville (2011): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Hectorville_siege

Not to mention the Lindt Cafe hostage takeover a couple years ago which I already mentioned.

Also not to mention that most murders don't happen in "mass shootings" anyway. I am focused on one-on-one self defense. If someone wants to kill or seriously injure myself or my family, it is a crime against morality to deny me the right to dispatch them in any responsible manner I see fit.

Spread your legs for criminals some more.

>>765854
>>765856
>>766078
The JAMA Internal Medicine Journal, actually

>A higher number of firearm laws in a state are associated with a lower rate of firearm fatalities in the state, overall and for suicides and homicides individually.

http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1661390#

P.S. Seriously? Youtube?

>>766086
Implying you're something more than a hairless ape.

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>>766449
DIfferentfag here. I'm just going to jump in and (hopefully) end this before a multi-tool thread gets relegated to /pol/.

The idea that "having more options for self defense" by carrying a gun is better than not is fundamentally like having more options for starting a fire in the woods by carrying a flamethrower is better than not. Sure, technically there's some truth, but there's a better chance of starting a forest fire with the flamethrower.

There's a similar case to be made with firearms. It's been fairly well demonstrated at this point that guns (in America):

>Are more likely to be used to escalate arguments and increase socially undesirable or illegal acts
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1730664/

>Are more likely to be used to intimidate others than in self-defense
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11200101

>Are more likely to be used to intimidate intimates in the home than to prevent crime
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10619696

>Are not commonly used to shoot criminals in the commission of illegal acts
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10647578

>Are not used millions of times per year in self-defense
http://home.uchicago.edu/ludwigj/papers/JPAM_Cook_Ludwig_Hemenway_2007.pdf

So maybe it's time to come to to terms with the collective vigilante fetish in America and realize that firearms now account for as many deaths annually as motor vehicle accidents.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/17/guns-are-now-killing-as-many-people-as-cars-in-the-u-s/

>>766513
Cars are getting too damn safe.

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>>766513
Their irresponsible use doesn't mean that people who use them responsibly also shouldn't have them.

Your analogies are also telling. Guns are not destructo-rays, especially pistols. Comparing their ownership to using a flamethrower in the forest shows how ignorant you are of firearms and their actual use. I carry a .45 in my pants literally everywhere I go except in the shower and while I sleep. And I have had plenty of opportunities to argue or start fights if I wanted to, but I'm not an immoral fuckwit with an inferority complex, so I de-escalate and act responsibly.

Do you not drink alcohol because some people drink like idiots and either poison themselves to death or get in a car and kill themselves or others? Do you not drive cars because some people use them like fuckwits and act completely irresponsibly? Do you deny yourself the right to own kitchen knives or baseball bats because people have used them irresponsibly in the past? Only those things are totally unimportant compared to you life or your family's life. If a mag full of .45 can flip the middle finger to someone trying to murder my wife or my sons then by damn I will fucking ventilate that son of a bitch.

I realize I hijacked the thread and I apologize for that, I won't post about it anymore. You are all just so ignorant of real life that I had to post one more time.

>>766522
Everything you mentioned is regulated, enforced, and studied from a public health perspective...except firearms. If you'd like to continue, start a thread in /pol/.

>>766086

How did the attacks on Paris end again? Did everyone sing songs and hold hands and praise diversity? Oh wait, no, the French shot those fuckers to death. That's right.

>>766541

but...but how did those darn terrorists get full automatic AK rifles in France? Aren't they...banned there?

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>>766545
Oh shi-

>>766449

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTs73qO5ehk

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>>766449

>>766449

>Port Arthur
What year is it now, nigz? That's right, it was 20 years ago. That's why the gun laws were changed in the first place. Unlike Merricans, we actually wanted to stop that shit.

If you so desperately want to talk shit, do your research first.

>Monash
2 dead. Not a mass shooting.

>Hectorville
3 dead, not a mass shooting (you really should look up the definition).

>Lindt cafe
Hostage situation, not a mass shooting (are you even trying?)

Meanwhile, there were 10 in the states just last year.

>MUH PROTECTION
>wew lad

Why are you so fucking angry that your country is shit?

>>766078
>Your argument that guns are any kind of catalyst in either murder or suicide has been officially been blown the fuck out.

HAHAHAHA

oh wait, you're serious, let me laugh even harder

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Please kek quote some kek sources

>Blown kek out he said kek

>>766683
>(you really should look up the definition).

how 'bout you give us a definition friendo.

>Meanwhile, there were 10 in the states just last year.

For someone who's such a stickler for sources, I'm surprised you aren't providing any proofs.

>>766513
>So maybe it's time to come to to terms with the collective vigilante fetish in America and realize that firearms now account for as many deaths annually as motor vehicle accidents.

I don't know if you're fucking blind, or just pig ignorant, but if you could read your own damn chart you'd see that it was in fact guns that had a relatively stellar safety record compared to cars and we should all now be glad that cars are as safe as guns.

But that's all completely irrelevant as comparing motor vehicle "accidents" to intentional firearm "homicides" is the only dishonest way you can get such asinine figures, as the number of deaths from firearm "accidents" is only in the hundreds every year.

Sorry OP... I started this mess. Next time I post around slack-jawed pussies who can't defend themselves I will crop out any references to evil scary guns, especially black ones, to not hurt any feelings or trigger anyone.

If I were to buy a new multitool today though it would probably be a Wave. Hard to go wrong with a Wave. Signal seems alright but... no scissors. I love scissors. And I don't need another damn firestarter. Anyone on this board I'm sure has a fucking dresser drawer full of fuckin ferro rods and mag bars. I know I've got a lot.

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>>766709

Agree on the wave recommendation. It's probably the best general purpose multitool on the market today. Also agree that fire-starters are...unnecessary. I have a bunch, but at the end of the day, I'd just rather use my reliable mini bic that I keep in a gearward attachment on my keychain. Pic related. Also random Glock 19 for added fun.

Gff

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>>766734
Lol some men... just want to watch the world burn.
(Sick XC1 though how do you like it? Thinking about getting a setup just like yours)

>>766849

Awesome daily carry setup, the XC1 ways under 2oz with battery so it's completely unnoticable and puts out a respectable 200 lumens in a very wide, even beam which is great for close/medium distances. Would recommend, I got at opticsplanet with 20% off discount.

>>766734

needs more guns

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>>763879
>>765131
>Swisstool

Piece of shit phillips driver good only for stripping heads.

Not the best but I always considered LM ST300/Rebar AK47 of multitools.

Cheap stamped steel design, long strong Phillips driver, gets shit done every time.

My personal favorite is mk1 LM Supertool.

>>766513
We really do have a gun fetish here. I'm not saying ban all guns but it's time for America to wake up and start addressing the problem in a rational manor not just clutch the bible in one hand and the second amendment in the other while screaming gibberish.

Are yanks or seppos or whatever you want to call me welcome in Australia? I'm willing to adapt to your laid back, shit posting customs.

>>766700

Seeing as you seem to find wiki an acceptable source, look it all up there yourself and you'll find it.

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>>766667
10/10

Nice symmetrical post number you have there too.

Now, to stay on track I have a question.
I love my squirt, its actions are smooth and sexy. My wingman however is clunky and awkward. Are the more expensive models worth it? I want sexy, smooth action.

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>>763831
>Whats the best multitool /out/?

>>767058

Those are really fragile, can't even remove paper staple without damaging them.

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>>763831
I have the leatherman sidekick. It's cheap (~€75), has loads of tools without getting bulky and the pliers are spring loaded unlike a lot of higher end multitools I've looked at.

bear in mind this is my first proper multitool though, grew up using whatever pen knives I could get my hands on, and only graduated to a multitool after I could justify the price of splashing out on one considering I live hundreds of miles from the nearest decent innawoods spots

>>763851
what's wrong with the signal? if you need scissors just get a micra to go along with it

>>763831
i'm carrying a skeletool and micra. skeletool does 95% of what you need a multitool for and the lack of a saw doesn't bother me because you don't go around cutting trees in iceland

>>767070
sidekick is probably the best value i've seen.

>>767070
Dude what? The sidekick/wingman is like $40 usd iirc.

>>767060
>implying hands are only good for though tasks
>implying you ever could do though tasks with bare hands

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>>767148
Found it at Wal-Mart for $38 usd
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Leatherman-Sidekick-Multi-Tool/20452333

>>767070
How do you like the action of opening and closing of the tools? Mine doesn't feel as good as my squirt. They stick together etc and it's brand new.

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So I found out since this thread started that the LM Surge can accept replacement saw blades so that's pretty cool. Not sure how often you would use it but I like the idea.

>>767309
That's breddy neat. I remember researching these things and was impressed when I found that out. It's a great idea for people who use a saw a lot. And I'm sure there are people who appreciate it since the product exists. I would surmise they got feedback from customers about that feature. Another awesome feature is the replaceable heavy wire cutter bit things on some models

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Charge Tti

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>>766688
>U.S. has more guns in more hands then anywhere else in the world by an incredible margin

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/05/guns-in-the-united-states-one-for-every-man-woman-and-child-and-then-some/

>isn't even anywhere near the top when it comes to violent crime or suicide

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate

>spree killings only in america amirite XDDD

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers

>>767513
Wow, 3 1/2 days later and you're still shitposting because somebody made fun of your gun. That's what I call triggered.

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>>767531
>'I lurk /out/ constantly and have a vested interest in both the quality and relevance of the posts therein'

>>767145

95% of multitool use can be covered by a blade and a screwdriver? Fuck off

Get yourself a proper multitool and then you'll discover what can really be done with one.

>>767513

Time to give up dude, all you're doing is exhibiting how butthurt you are. You're not even responding to the argument any more, you're just changing vectors of attack every time someone calls you out.

America's way up there for violent gun crime and tops the list of first world countries per capita.

You must be bleeding from your butt with how ravaged it's been, so just take a break, get some tissues to bleed and cry into.

>>767833
>America's way up there for violent gun crime

Its at like 120 out of 170 countries.

>tops the list of first world countries per capita.

No, it fucking doesn't. Mexico, Russia, and various other "first world" shit holes have us beat.

>>767537

>>>/b/

This is /out/, dude. Most of the threads here actually do stay relatively on topic.

>>767513

Kek it's because you cunts love guns so much you've found ways from a legal classification standpoint to rule out most gun deaths as being homicide

>>765379
Holy shit I'm dying of honest keks here

>>767833
I am >>764247, and he's not me. There are at least 3 or 4 other guys on here that have continued he arguing long after I left.

I tried to bring it back on topic. I am >>766709
and >>767309.

>>767945
So you are indeed triggered

>>767822
>95% of multitool use can be covered by a blade and a screwdriver?
And my main tools that I use are the blade, saw, and pliers. I guess I'll have to change now so I can be like your 95%

>>767957
what are you using the saw for

>>767976
He probably uses it for sawing

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>>767948
Lol jesus christ fucking defenseless jealous pussies are insufferable.

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>>767822
took some time to compare the surge with my gear. and yeah, I've been looking to get a MUT if only for the hammer
>2 knives?
>the saw is useless for me
>never needed an awl
>have all the screwdrivers on there(small one on my micra)
>alright, the can opener would be nice for that one time a year i need to open a can
>all these wire cutters would actually come in handy but one will get the job done
>i have scissors on the micra
>i don't even know what i would use a file for.

>>768021

>triggered as fuck

>>768026

I never used to think I would even use a multitool until I bought one to try it out, now it's indispensable to me.

I certainly never thought I'd need an awl, but I've used it as a reamer many times, even used it to create holes in various things. Occasionally I've had the ring pull on a can come off, and who keeps a can opener in the house any more? Well I definitely don't need a wire cutter, or at least I didn't until my neighbour asked me to snip off a bit of wire poking out from his chain-link fence. Then I filed the sharp edge off the bit that I cut.

You don't have to carry a whole toolbox for every conceivable situation but tools don't strictly apply to only one single situation, and some of them are the kind of tools where you'll never need them until you're in a situation where they're crucial.

If the only things you use are on the skeletool, then try carrying something else and you'll be surprised how often you use the other tools. You'll start finding lots of situations where you can use them, and won't want to go back.

>hang out on /b/ several years
>finally move on after getting sick of the people
>hang out on /ck/ until I got sick of the King Ja/ck/ bashing
>people on /v/ are even worse
>/vg/ is decent but also boring
>/pol/ is like redneck autism tourette
>/fit/ and /soc/ is everthing I hate about people
>come to /out/, expect to finally having found the people that are decent and of careing nature
>click on multitool thread
>oh boy here we go
well played 4chin, well played

>>768101

This thread is an anomaly, happens rarely.

When it does though, it's usually a gun argument.

>>765083

>Convince me otherwise

Jesus Americans are stupid arrogant fucks

>>768129
>you're all stupid arrogant fucks
>acts like a stupid arrogant fuck
Oh the ironing.

>being this buttblasted your nanny state won't let you have guns
:( awwww. Just use a rape whistle to try and call for help if someone attacks you. It'll be your best bet.

>>768026
just hold them in your hand a bit before you decide. i used to like the mut until i had the misfortune to try it out.

the surge is the superior tool unless you need the gun related features.

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>>768486
>Just use a rape whistle to try and call for help if someone attacks you.
The Signal has a rape whistle. Pic related

>>767141
gimmicky overpriced fails to deliver

>>768101
when day/k/are children latch on to an /out/ thread, the cancer is devastating and the prognosis poor.

>>768071
You're right, im definitely going to need another tool for non-urban environments and DIY

>>767141
>what's wrong with the signal?
Nothing. Supposedly it was made by Leatherman after user input.

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>>767145
Yeah I'm delighted with it, fantastic value!

>>767148
I'm an Irishfag so stuff is crazy expensive here if it isn't rolling skins or peat.Always wanted a big boy knife but I didnt want to go everywhere with a kabar strapped to myself either lol. Multitool is a great middleground though

>>767192
Mines' the same, makes it a pain in the ass to work stuff like the serrated knife with gloves on but when you're really used to it that doesn't matter, they get a slight bit easier to deploy over time. Maybe some WD40 would help, considering the steel is stainless.
That's stuff like the screwdriver blades and can openers, but for the knife, saw and pliers its a beaut to use in darkness, with gloves and behind your back as long as you can tell which end has the logo stamped on it.

>>768486

Wow dude your autism is like touch powder

Crawl into your sensory deprivation sack and calm the fuck down

>nanny state
You don't know what country I'm from lol

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>>768486

>>767979
yea. a multitool cant saw anything. why are you even here if you dont know that

>>768513

Maybe if you blow it someone will come and rape you

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>>768717
>all this butt blast
>all this ad hominem

>>768716
>wait... touch powder? The fuck?
>sensory deprivation s.... what in the hell...

Nope I don't know what country you're from, random anonymous 4chan poster. But I can tell you that if it's not the US, then your freedom to defend yourself is at best equal to my own and at worst... well you obviously don't speak English so it's not Englad or Australia, but that would be the worst case. Go ahead and cry, it's alright. Just get a really good loud whistle. Not too loud though, wouldn't want to damage your attacker's hearing. Poor guy is probably just misunderstood.

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>>768954
>well you obviously don't speak English so it's not Englad

>>768721
it can saw dry-walls and stuff.
it's not really for outdoor use.

as a rule of thumb you can't effectively saw anything that is thicker than half the sawblade length.

>>768727
>walking in the woods
>enjoying loneliness and the quiet and forest sounds
>suddenly sharp whistle full lunged again and again

yeah i will find you and rape you.

>>768513
don't use this when muslims try to rape you. cops will call you racist and join in

>>768519
yeah, the sidekick beats it. the signal's hammer might come in handy but you're probably going to miss what you're trying to hit and instead fuck up your hand

>>768721
>>769074

I have a swiss army knife with a saw on it and regularly saw branches thicker than my wrist

>>769075

You can't even find canada on a map, good luck finding anyone to rape

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>>769075

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>>769077
>yeah, the sidekick beats it.
>doesn't have whistle
>doesn't have ferro rod
>doesn't have knife sharpener
>doesn't have replaceable wire cutters
>doesn't have awl
>doesn't have bit driver
not sure if troll or just stupid

>>769135

Doesn't have useless plastic shit that'll fall off and get lost the first time you use it.

A multitool should be a single cohesive package of tools, not some random bullshit crammed together. If you want some cheap plastic 10-in-1 survival crap then order something on chinkybaba.

If you want a useful multool, buy a different leatherman and carry all of that other shit separately.

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>>764252
What's wrong with that?

>>769135
it cost's two times less and many of the things on the suignal i'd rather want to have on my keychain or in my pocket.
but the argument of which multitool is better than another is a pretty bad one.

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>>769163

Nothing at all, comrade

>>769165
>it cost's two times less

Do you mean half as much?

>>767452
Why are they using tampertorx?

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>>767833
>America is really bad by these arbitrary standards that single out a specific inanimate object and defer to a country's completely irrelevant current socio-economic status-as if the country in question wasn't nearly a continent to itself with a population as racially and economically diverse to match.

This is hilarious. Of course if you use disingenuous terms like "gun crime" and "gun deaths" (which includes people taking their own lives) a country that is inundated in guns will look bad by those standards. By using terms like "gun deaths" you've already attempted to shift the goal posts about as far as they can go by being a cherry picking retard and obfuscating the reality of violent crimes and suicides committed without guns.

The argument boils down to "guns are bad", but again, if the availability of guns was a catalyst in total violent crimes committed or even suicides the United States would be a smouldering crater due to the fact that there are more guns here in more hands than anywhere else in the world by a spectacular margin. With a murder rate nestled firmly in the middle of all nations and a suicide rate well below dozens of your precious "first world nations" you can consider yourself rebuked.

It's proven that America's problem with violent crime doesn't stem from the availability of guns, it's due to the proliferation of blacks and hispanics whom are both over-represented in this relative to their population size both in the U.S. and elsewhere.

>>768716
You know you've been talking to multiple people this whole time right?

>>768101
>King Ja/ck/
Who?

Not all threads are like this here but 4chan is 4chan, no matter the board.

>>769135
Isn't this the pope‘s water glass? Guy was weird af.
>>769163
I read that in the voice of one of the guys caught on "to catch a predator" he had a really high pitched squeaky voice. I miss that show.

I commend leatherman for trying to put a whistle on their product. That's a tough thing to do. But being detachable is its Achilles heel.

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>>768976
>hey look he made a typo, quick point it out and argue that he can't spell even though he spelled Australia, ad hominem, anonymous, and sensory deprivation all correctly because we have no argument otherwise!

>>769077
i wouldn't call that thing a hammer tho.
and you can use a rock or a stick or even a cup to hammer anything you can do with that.

no the signal would be good enough for basic recreational use if it was dirt cheap but as pricey as it is it's crap. you can get serious tools for that price not toys.

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>>769080
of course i can.
it's the country that's perpetually buggering the us.

>>769157
>A multitool should be a single cohesive package of tools,
And Leatherman built it after user input. I'm glad nobody asked you or we'd have Leathermans with cheetos dusters and hot pocket thermometers.

>>769428
You joke but that might be just crazy enough to work...

>>769428
the signal is pure meme

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Need help with my sidekick.
I can't smoothly take out a tool without another one or two sticking to it. It's such a pain in the dick and nowhere near as good feeling as my squirt.

>>769239
>It's proven that America's problem with violent crime doesn't stem from the availability of guns, it's due to the proliferation of blacks and hispanics whom are both over-represented in this relative to their population size both in the U.S. and elsewhere.

Back to stormfront or /k/.

>>769078
i never said you can't chew the wood around with a small saw but it's not effective.

if you go that way i can saw wood thicker than my arm with a spoon. it just takes some time.

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>>763831
>Whats the best multitool?
depends on where i'm going and what i'm doing.
But usually the Leatherman Charge
or the Juice S2 original

>>771699
Do those other leathermans have the same smooth action as that squirt in your pic?

>>771679

What's the problem, you're not strong enough, or is it that you're not doing it right?

Works perfectly well.

>>768125
>When it does though, it's usually a gun argument.

>>764252 here, and I apologize sincerely for what I did to the thread. I thought I was just making an offhand joke about an amusing cultural peculiarity and I forgot how easily triggered (pardon the pun) both gun nuts and anti-gun nuts are. I should have known better.

Not anti gun btw, just not a nut, they're tools like any other.

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Victrinox SwissTool reporting in. I've had Leatherman in the past and I loved it, I don't know what happened to it though, lost it when I was a youngin.

Had the SwissTool for about 4 years now and I've loved it the whole ride, it's never let me down.

>>771881
>gun nuts

*Americans

>>764174
>Gerber makes quality stuff.
no man almost all of their shit is china made crap.
the few exceptions will not save the brand.

>>771918
victorinox is a superior grade tool in quality and sturdiness but leatherman beats it silly in ergos and one hand operation.

>>771861
what can't you not understand about "not efficient"?

a branch in the thickness of your wrist is about 5-10 seconds with a good saw and 2-3 seconds with a hatchet, i can usually break it in 1 sec if the wood is not green hard wood.

with your tiny saw you are going to spend much more on it i'm guessing around a minute or more.

>>771918

If you really want to measure that pube you're gonna have to stretch it out straight, anon. It looks like it's at least 2mm.

>>772013

>not efficient
Actually you said effective. The victorinox saw is perfectly effective, it gets the job done.

Don't understand why your butt is bleeding over this one, anon.

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>>766408
>being a poorfag

>>772029
because i have used these tiny saws and normal sized ones and i'm telling you you are delusional.
english is not my first so there is that. i sometimes use wrong words or phrase awkwardly.

>>772046

What's your first language then, son? Bullshit?

You do use wrong words or phrase things awkwardly.

>>767976
>>767979
>>768721
>>769074
>>769078
>>771679
>>771861
>>772013
>>772029
I have the vic forester and the saw is amazing
(would even buy a full size one if victorinox sold one)

> but it's not effective.
for me its still way faster than walking to the shed to get the big saw

>a branch in the thickness of your wrist is about 5-10 seconds with a good saw and 2-3 seconds with a hatchet, i can usually break it in 1 sec if the wood is not green hard wood.
and its 20 seconds with the pocket saw
you can forget the hatchet and breaking it, during garden work if it has to look (and work) the part

>>771679

Works perfectly fine mate, don't know what your problem is.

>>772013
>I can break soft deadwood

No shit. But for wood that needs sawing, the victorinox saws work really well. Don't know what you're doing wrong with them. Maybe you need to watch some youtube videos on how to saw lol

>>767452
That is one fine looking knife
Doesn't look like BUSSE distributes in Frogistan though :(

>>771783
yeah, pretty much

>>772061
>during garden work
alright that was totally not what i was talking about tho. more like shelter building and stuff.

>>772031
nah i would just rather buy two steel tools than one titanium. never got this ultralight hype.

>>772145
also have to add even with a full sized "pocket saw" that had about 10" blade to chew through the trunk of a pine tree it took me one minute, i would never even start with a 4" blade or smaller would have been a lot of fucking work.

Leatherman freestyle. Very simple, yet versatile. All I need are a set of decent pliers and a fair knife.

>>772120
Damn, I should have saved up and bought the rebar/similar instead of the sidekick.

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>>764297

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>>772879
Here's mine. Leather man MUT is cool but I'd probably not buy it given a do-over. It's just useful for the kinds of things you'd rather a proper toolkit for, and not compact enough to carry easily (on pocket or belt). 7.5/10 - more if you wear molle often

The Helmsman on the other hand has been the best thing I ever had. It's a great daily companion and never wears out. The circular serations are unbelievably effective on rope aboard the boat - though a bit of a bitch to sharpen without a decent ceramic set. 10/10 as long as you're not in the anti-stainless brigade

The one on the left is homemade by the girlfriend and is fucking class for hikes - nice straight blade of thick INOX, and the opinels are more for dirty jobs and hobby stuff

>>773445
Wrong reply

>>768616
Ebay is your friend when buying anything /out/ in the 26 counties. I asked in Great Outdoors about the MUT. The one they had was in a broken box, no bit kit and a nick on the blade. €200 if I recall. EBay? $160 shipped from the states.

Also, regarding Victorinox. When I was dumb enough to try use the Helmsman as a hammer, they repaired (replaced?) it on warranty for €8 postage

>>773445
>MUT
i had it in my hand for like 5 seconds then i dropped it and wiped my hands in disgust.
i like leathermans but the mut feels like crap. too bulky but also flimsy feeling. looked good on paper i have to admit but irl i would rather go with the surge.
my problem with the surge it has a fairly weak jointed neck compared to the strength implied by the pliers. all big leathermans suffer from this.

>>763831
Dammit OP this thread has given me the irresistible urge to get out all my Leatherman MTs and SAKS just to fondle and admire them

>>773445
>>773470
Pretty sure the MUT was primarily aimed at people who own AR-15s
If your not an AR guy, there are probably way better models to match your lifestyle and intended uses of a MT.
I have the leatherman Charge. i think its similar in size to the MUT. The Charge feels strong and sturdy. no complaints with it after years of ownership and use.

>>774297
Yeah it's not for people who need a saw either - I've gotten about a half a centimetre into this axe I'm rehafting. First time I've ever tried the saw and it's crap.

On that note, anyone got good ideas for a decent folding /out/ saw?

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>>774358
Pic related. Also slightly twisted the saw so double-damnit

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>>774358
these are supposed to be good. never used one. but i've seen something like this on /out/ before

http://www.amazon.com/Sven-Saw-Folding-Inch-Camp-Saw/dp/B0019MOORI

I had a Leatherman Super-Tool 300 and hated it. To use the knife i would have to open the tool up, click the blade into place, and close it up again. I ended up selling it on ebay.

If you're looking at Leatherman get the Wave/Surge instead of the "butterfly" designs, especially if you use your tool daily.

>>769613
Oil it

>>774641
same as all victorinox. crap ergos.
but at least leatherman has good designs.

>>774699
>same as all victorinox. crap ergos.

What? lol no

You can open up all the tools without opening the legs of the tool.

I smell a leatherman fanboi

>>774642
What would you recommend? I have 3-1, will that work? This damn thing is brand new

>>765133
Id say its worse. The signal has a bunch of added on BS that any experienced outdoorsmen would have better alternatives of. The flint? The shitty LED light? The combo blade?

Leatherman has yet to put anything GOOD out for the last ~10 years. The Skeletool was probably their last "good" new design(and good as a urban EDC. Sure as hell isnt a hard use, or outdoorsman multitool)

My go to would be the Sog Powerlock if i want a heavy 4.5" tool, or a Leatherman Rebar(or blast) for a 4" tool.

Swisstool stuff is nicer, but its pricier and the extra quality is in more refined tools and better finish... Which isnt really as important for a /out/ tool.(Beautiful pieces of kit to EDC though. The Swisstool spirit is probably the sexiest multitool.)

>>775261
>The shitty LED light?
Doesn't have one. Opinion discarded.

>>765043
is there a map that correlates illegal firearms

>>775264
i think this is the third time ive said this in this thread, but that leatherman is so memey that it belongs in a toys r us.

>>775279
This is the forth time I have said this but ask anyone if they care what you think.

>>775330
yea, that sounds like something a leatherman signal owner would say

>>775355
Sorry but I own a few multitools
>>765537
You? Not so much.

>>774699
crap ergos nevertheless

>>763831
leatherman REBAR. period.

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I tried to read through this train wreck of a thread and gave up before I could get good advice. Be good to each other guys pls ;~;

Im wondering what the best multi-tool option would be for a poor / newfag to /out/ stuff. Not just camping, maybe edc or something. The most versatile. Thanks

>>776199
Look for any full-size Leatherman that you can afford.

Otherwise there are some SOG multitools and that Gerber frame one. Anything cheaper than those will probably be a waste of money.

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>>776199
The Rebar or the Wave are what you're looking for.

Top to bottom:
>Supertool 300
>Rebar
>Wave

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>>774818
not the anon your talking to but. Yes, oil the shit out of it. and open and close each of the blades individually, over and over and over again, while continuing to oil them.
When I first bought my Leatherman Juice S2 it was like what you describe. I could barely pry open any of the screw driver tip blades and usually they all came out together.
It was built with super tight tolerances, which is good.
It took me several weeks of several times daily opening and closing each of the blades individually, while oiling the shit out of everything. I did this probably hundreds and hundreds of times.
Eventually things loosened up just enough to where I could open any of the blades easily by just lightly prying with a fingernail.
whole process took 2-3 weeks of fucking with it on a daily basis.
Now after many years and constant use, it is still one of my fave MTs and never let me down. truly a joy to own and use.

A method I used, to open and close the blades rapidly for hundreds of times in a row was this-

wrap the implement blade in a thin cloth or piece of leather for protection, then carefully clamp the blade into a vice. Do this in such a way that allows you to still replicate the motion of opening and closing the blade, as best you can, while the blade is clamped in the vice.
This makes it a lot easier to repeatedly perform the open/close action many times very quickly.
Repeat process for each blade until you notice an improvement
Do this for each blade you need to get broken in. it will get better, just takes a little time.

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I like the Gerber Multi-plier 600 because of the slide-out pliers, instead of the fold-out you find on most multi-tools. Just don't try to use the blade to pry things and you'll be alright.

>>776267
that meme knife tho

>>766085
Nogs run when you pull the gun, still self defense even if you didn't fire

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>>776199
Check out the Victorinox Hercules. Its different, but i EDC it. On trail i have a Victorinox Rucksack, no need for pliers or philips screwdrivers really.

>>776212
>>776199
i have tried all of them out
surge is the best hands down
if it's too big for you then the wave or charge

>>776224
Thanks anon. What oil did you use?
I'm almost tempted to sand down some of the metal on one tool as a test to see if I can do it faster. Anyway, I will test out your method.

>>776284
What meme knife?

victorinox.
leatherman is american cheap trash, that perfectly embodies the american seppo nature: looks cool, is worth shit.
get a sak and a pair of pliers. it will cost half and function way better than whatever these yanks came up with.

>>778042
bullshit.
leatherman is the best compromise between quality and ergos.
victorinox is better quality and stronger somewhat sure also more expensive and sucks ass in regards of one handed opening and the general ergonomics.

>>766085
Literally the only link on that picture is

>Democraticunderground.com

Please use your brain before posting supposed infographs

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>>769618
>Stop spouting statistics and numerical proof at me!
>Go back to /k/ you racist bigot!

>>777973
I just used 3in1 oil most of the time. Only because its what i happened to have around at the time. and i like the smell.

>>778085
>and i like the smell.

Kek. It's nostalgic for me as well. My dad would put it in toy steam engine and it would puff smoke. I think it was that it anyway. But I loved the smell.

>>778042
>>778047

You're both fucking wrong, you fanbois.

Victorinox has better engineering. Leatherman is tougher.

Neither one is shit. There are plenty of shit brands out there, of which neither vic or lm is one.

>>778051

Please use your brain before responding to trolls

>>778382
>Victorinox has better engineering. Leatherman is tougher.
now this is just wrong on so many levels.
comparable sized victorinox has better quality steel and a stronger build on all tools. pretty goddamn sturdy.
leathermans however are way better designed for useability.

>>778396
of course it helps if you don't compare a tiny victorinox to the supertool 300, cause you know they are not the same category and supertool sucks ass in regards of ergos being a pretty crap tool (along with rebar) for leatherman standards.

>>778396

You're confusing design with engineering.

>>778429
design and engineering are inseparable

>>778399
I thought those were leatherman's good models. What do you suggest?

Sketelool. Best multitool I've ever had

>>778574
What others have you owned?

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>>778573
surge and it's little brother the charge over the supertool and rebar erry time.

many people also swear by the wave, but i like big tools better.

my personal edc is a skeletool cx, while looks a little bit faggy, it has innacity essentials covered very ergonomic to carry in front pocket has a great sized 154cm steel blade while small and light overall and also has a decent plier for the size. don't recommend it for outdoor use tho. also the screwdrivers usable but a bit awkward.

>>778586
For innacity what do you find handy?

>>778610
Not him, but I like my Skeletool for everyday shit not innawoods. It is light and doesn't have a million tools you will never need

>>778614
What do you use most on it?

>>778730
i'm >>778586
funnily the beer opener
second would be the blade
third the plier
rarely the screwdriver bits

>>778755
>beer opener
Kek, you drunk

>>778885
last time i used the pliers
>went to a home depot type place (obi)
>gf wanted some chains
>after some looking she selects a chain suitable for her project
>alright now what do? instructions say measure and cut for yourself
>chain cutter is bolted to the shelves
>chain is too short to reach there
>wat do?
>oh hey i got a multitool in my pocket
saved the day

altho at that particular place i could find a bolt cutter in 5 minutes not sure if you can use merchandise for this tho

>>778893
You never find an employee there when you need one. It's a joke.

>>767070
Ranger Joe's has the sidekick for $55. I like my surge better but carry the wave more because of the size.

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>>778730
It really only has 3 tools- Pliers + wire cutters, locking knife, and screwdriver with a couple bits.

Knife is #1, and screwdriver and pliers are probably tied. It's nice to have when I need a phillips screwdriver to change the batteries for something and can't be bothered to go to the garage for a 30 second job.

It may also have a bottle opener, but I use a Bic lighter for that task instead. I haven't encountered a situation yet in my daily tasks where I wish I had a 3" saw and multiple 2"-3" knife blades which come in one of the larger and heavier Leathermans.

>>778563

Maybe so but that doesn't exclude them from being different properties

>>778574

Doesn't the curved bit dig into your hand when you're using the bit driver?

>>778904
indeed
when you need them they have a spider sense and disappear.

>>778942
i mostly use the screwdriver when the laptop hdd loses contact from transport and the damn thing won't boot.

i have to take out the hdd and smack it right back for it to start.

i would be furious a lot if i didn't had a screwdriver on my at all times.

>>779167
Not OP. No issues for me. I thought it would but I hardly felt it on my palm. Just the same, I have the fat end of the Philip's sticking out for max comfort.

>>779261

Sorry I meant to say pliers

>>779280
No prob anon. To answer, no problem with the bit digging in when using the pliers. But so far I've only used it for quick jobs that don't require too much force. And using the bluntest side of the bit exposed does help.
Easiest option is to remove the bit and keep it in your pocket till the job's done