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Old thread: >>728230

Companion Planting - Raised Beds - Vertical Gardening - Square Foot Gardening - Polyculture - Composting - Mulching - Vermiculture - Espalier - Fungiculture - Aquaponics - Greenhouses - Cold Frames - Hot Boxes - Polytunnels - Forest Gardening - Aquaculture

Resources:

Murray Hallam’s Aquaponics: (sample: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYR9s6chrI0 )

-Aquaponics Secrets DVD
-Aquaponics Made Easy DVD
-DIY Aquaponics DVD (Aquaponics The First 12 Months And Aquaponics DIY DVD)

Backyard Aquaponics
https://kat.cr/backyard-aquaponics-t4385398.html

400+ PDF BOOKS ON GARDENING
https://kat.cr/400-pdf-books-on-gardening-t3324399.html

Youtube channel Growingyourgreens, tons of videos on almost every single gardening subject,
https://www.youtube.com/user/growingyourgreens

Ollas clay pot watering system,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkNxACJ9vPI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvKq5geEM-A

USA Time of Year Planting Guide,
http://www.motherearthnews.com/organic-gardening/what-to-plant-now-zl0z0903zalt.aspx

Food preservation,
http://nchfp.uga.edu/
https://kat.cr/complete-book-of-home-preserving-pdf-gooner-t10069401.html
https://kat.cr/canning-and-preserving-all-in-one-for-dummies-2011-mantesh-t5998098.html
http://www.allamerican-chefsdesign.com/admin/FileUploads/Product_49.pdf

Mushrooms, (culinary and psychoactive):
https://kat.cr/usearch/Stamets/

Mother Earth News' Vegetable Garden Planner program, (full version requires yearly subscription $fee)
http://www.motherearthnews.com/garden-planner/vegetable-garden-planner.aspx

Tons of Gardening/Farming PDFs
http://www.fastonline.org/?page_id=35
Aquaponics
http://www.fastonline.org/?page_id=32
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US Farm Income and Taxes,
http://www.hobbyfarms.com/farm-marketing-and-management/farm-income-taxes-14991.aspx

US Grants and Loans for Small Farms,
http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/usda/usdahome?navid=GRANTS_LOANS
http://afsic.nal.usda.gov/farms-and-community/grants-and-loans-farmers
http://www.nal.usda.gov/afsic/pubs/funding.shtml

Managing Risks on Your Small Farm,
http://agr.wa.gov/Marketing/SmallFarm/managerisk.aspx

Chicken info and forum,
http://www.backyardchickens.com

Rabbit guide
http://www.agriculture.gov.tt/publications/manuals/rabbit-production-a-producer-s-manual.html

A public access seedbank for many types of rare or endangered plants; both edible and ornamental,
http://www.jlhudsonseeds.net/index.htm

Organic and heirloom selections:
http://sustainableseedco.com/
http://www.seedsofchange.com/
http://www.johnnyseeds.com/

Potato, Sweet Potato, and Tubers seed bank (free, but requies filling out forms and waiting in line):
http://www.cipotato.org/

Awesome interactive plant/gardening maps for USA, Canada, France, UK, BC, (frost dates, temp zones, etc):
http://www.plantmaps.com/index.php

Sprout seeds and info:
sproutpeople.org

Insect Habitats for attracting polinating bees, predatory/parasitic wasps, hibernating ladybugs, butterflies, etc.
http://www.inspirationgreen.com/insect-habitats.html

Toad and Hedgehog Habitats,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JetkWtw7Jc
http://familycrafts.about.com/od/frogcrafts/a/How_To_Make_A_Toad_Village.htm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/breathingplaces/hedgehog_home/
http://www.britishhedgehogs.org.uk/leaflets/L5-Hedgehog-Homes.pdf

Chili Peppers
http://www.fatalii.net/

More on Aquaponics & Aquaculture,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=26xpMCXP9bw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=_WgfaJjvfxA
http://www.appropedia.org/Aquaponics

Sourcing plants from the grocery,
http://www.diyncrafts.com/4732/repurpose/25-foods-can-re-grow-kitchen-scraps
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>>735883
>press box

I wonder if a metal pipe would contribute too much of a flavor to the tobacco? Putting it into a metal pipe, that is cut short to accommodate the C-clamp would allow a great deal of pressure more than the wooden box.
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>>736032

People have built metal presses. Don't know how much a taste it imparts.
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>>736063
Well, painting/using plastic lining would also reduce or eliminate that problem to a point. A pipe one with a C-clamp would be the cheapest quickest, and easiest way to make one DIY.
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>Spring was here
>my Bulbs were blooming
>then, hard freeze with 5 inches of snow
>forecast miserable and cold for another week
>growing pumpkins too early indoors
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>>736328

>My prune tree started blooming early
>Nothing but torrential rain and driving winds for the past two weeks
>Now my tree is losing all its flower-petals and the flower offshoots are turning brown.


Well fuck.

I hope some pollination happened somewhere but I'm worrying that the rain and wind washed/blew away all the available pollen...
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>>736328
>>736330
>Amazing mulberry blooms on all my mulberry trees.
>suddenly freezing temps and 2 inches of snow
>all flowers dead and branches dead for a good bit on the mulberry trees
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My experimental November watermelon is going bananas!
I'm thinking about planting it out in the garden (with black foil) as the pot is probably getting too small now. Frosts won't occur any more (extremely unlikely), but the forecast says some cold nights may go down to +4°C, with highs being in the 15-20°C range.
I know this is a tropical plant thriving best at 25°C and above, so will it be kill? (It is of course a more hardy cultivar suited more to our cool climate and needing less heat x time to ripen, but I don't know how cold tolerant it is)
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>>736028
Finally got my first garden going. Basil are getting infested by leaf miners tho.
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>>736148

I suppose, but I'd probably just put one together out of wood and use some C clamps.

That said, I'm getting ahead of myself. Haven't even selected a tobacco seed yet.
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>>736419
>dat ruler

Also, don't put it out until it is 20+ at night
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>>736422
>leaf miners

Pick of and dispose of the leaves with the leaf miner tunnels. Then look at the under side center of the leaf right above that. The leaf miner grub usually crawls up to the next leaf and enters there.
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>>736429
Put it there to show size (20cm ~= 8" for the burgers)
>20+ at night
Lel, that happens during rare summer heatwaves here only.
Even in July some nights can drop below 10 every now and then
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>>736419
No idea if you are actually near Heidelberg, but unless you're south of the Alps, wait 3 more weeks.
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>>736431
That's 6.5°C in sci
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I did a thing
I'll keep transplanting them little by little (those pots with holes in them that I left for no actual reason), maybe 8 at a time so I can give away 5 each time, keep 3, and gift the remainder to family until I stay with 10 plants.

This is the last time I plant so many. Good thing tomato plants are so hardy.
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>>736431
Well, where I live summer is 105F/40C during the day and 90F/32C at night. I don't put tomatoes out until it reaches 68F/20C at night due to freak frosting. If I went to the 55F/12C like places tell me, I'd have lost my plants everytime.
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Anyone here good with carnivorous plants?
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>>736328
>>736416

At least the bugs won't be as bad this summer.
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When should I plant pumpkins if I want them harvested in October?
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>>736489

Where do you live?

Midwest you can direct sow in mid to late May.
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>>736489
look at days to harvest on the seed pack, count backwards from when you want to harvest, plant in soil on previously determined date.
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>>736489
You can harvest pumpkins as soon as they have some color. But they will keep growing for weeks after that. They only stop when it gets too cold.
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>>736489
Start now inside
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>>736503
Why would you say that? Most pumpkins are in the 100=120 day range.
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What's eating my new plant?
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>>736516
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>>736422
Get some BT spray and try not to kill hornets and wasps in your yard.

I get them like crazy, sometimes I'll squish the shithead in his tunnel and leave the leaf as a warning to his siblings. I notice I get more when I don't use my bt spray for over a month.
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>>736517
Whatever it is, it's big.

Look for a caterpillar. And consider letting it feed. Those things become butterflies.
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>>736534
It the southern US it could be leafcutter ants. And if it is then good luck. Best soil care btw.
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>>736517
Caterpillar, slug, beetle, or snail. Kill on sight.
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>>736477
This. All y'all people with cold snaps and snow should count yourself lucky. We practically didn't even have a winter in north carolina except for like 1 week. The bugs are ridiculous already. I have to wear long sleeves and a bug net to pull up the weeds.
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So my basil went all curly as soon as I put it out. I think it's aphids. What do?
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>>736572
I'm so glad I'm one of those people that never has insect problems. Everyone else around me gets carried off by black flies and mosquitoes.

Also, some of the worst places in the world for biting insects have long winters.

http://www.adn.com/article/20130627/gazillions-black-flies-and-mosquitoes-keep-parts-alaska-unpopulated
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>>736580
Wash twice daily, depending on what it is use nettle tea, diluted lemon juice, or water with a drop of dish soap.

Basil will curl its leaves if you look at it too hard. Could be anything, wrong water, wrong pH, wrong light. It's only bugs if you can find them.
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>>736580
Get lady bugs or mantises
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>>736581
>Also, some of the worst places in the world for biting insects have long winters.
>Proof because link!
That is because in those places the species of bugs that lay cold sensitive eggs early don't spread, leaving even more resources for those that do. Do you even natural selection?
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>>736587
Too late now.
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>>736580
>I think it's aphids. What do?

You can see aphids easily. Check it to be sure. Open the curls and check the undersides.

You don't need to wash them, just rinse them with a garden hose. Use as stiff a spray as the leaf can take without damaging the leaf.
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>>736588
Sure thing, kid.
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>>736590
Yes, when I wrote 'wash' I didn't mean dunk and scrub. I meant get a pump disperser, cover the soil, and make like the rain, taking care to get the undersides of the leaves as well.
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>>736593
>>>/b/
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>>736593
forgot image
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>>736597
>>>/reddit/, kid
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>>736425
Hey, i'm the guy who spoke to you about the curing in the older thread. I should start using a trip so when we start growing & curing we can discuss our techniques and keep in touch. However, I likely wont start growing until i manage to make a bit more money so i can easily afford to make a kiln and buy temperature and humidity apparatus.
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Newfag to these generals here.

Do you guys really start shit like pumpkins and watermelon indoors or is just a meme?
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>>736422
Tropaeolum attracts aphids a lot (to the point they barely deign to touch the other plants), though I've noticed it has quite the same effect with miners. Maybe you could try the classic combo Tropaeolum/French marigold? (marigold to repel bugs from where you don't want them, Tropaeolum to attract them elsewhere. Caution about marigold, that attracts slugs, so you need traps or copper if that happens)
(also for >>736580 after a good wash, if it's really aphids)

You can also try BT, as >>736532 said, though it may be a long term fight (once they're under epidermis, they're rather immune to it)
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>>736598
Ah, the North Slope. I remember my time there well. When I was stuck in the bottom of a valley hundreds of kilometers from any human presence, wearing my full rain gear in the blazing sun in order to keep all the blood inside my body.
I remember counting the mosquitoes on my pantleg and estimating that about 5000 of them were crawling over my body at that moment.
And that was in the 'low' half of the summer for bugs.
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So what motivates you to grow plants?
I grow plants because I just want this to happen again.
>Be 17
>Soon to be freshman in college, having party at house
>Mom's friend shows up with her little kid
>I'm a nepenthes fanatic, and by then, I had multiple decently sized nepenthes
>Little kid starts to run around, causing trouble and bothering everyone
>He runs upstairs and wanders around
>Locates my room
>I have a large nepenthes robcantleyi, just repotted, sitting on a small desk next to door
>Little kid barges in, smacks his head into one of the plant's pitchers and spills a slurry of plant stomach juices, fertilizer pellets and bug guts on himself
>Screams and runs downstairs, hollering like a little bitch
>Mom's friend has to take him home
>Party is no longer shit
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Hey guys, hope I'm right here. I have two very small patches of earth, surrouned by concrete in my rural home. Any ideas on what is easy to grow, looks decent (I live above a restored blacksmith) and is useful?
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>>736624
This is my December pumpkin which is totally dwarfed
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>>736624
Yes, and yes.
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>>736659
It isn't getting any better,

>The Arctic Mosquito Swarms Large Enough to Kill a Baby Caribou
http://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2015/09/arctic-mosquitoes-and-the-chaos-of-climate-change/405322/

>In a warmer Arctic, mosquitoes avoid increased mortality from predators by growing faster
http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/282/1815/20151549

Thankfully, it will balance out after a while.

>>736676
>So what motivates you to grow plants?

I'm hungry.

>>736730
You mean for food? Think about what you like to eat, plant that. Other than that, you can plant stuff to make textile dyes.

>>736757
MOAR LIGHT
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>>736330

I doubt there was very much pollination, it wasn't warm enough for pollinators to be out plus if the offshoots are browning..
Didn't last thread someone have an apple orchard crop failure because of this cold snap? Feel bad for the guy

>>736416
iktf

>>736477
I don't know man, the bugs up here are assholes that survive just about everything.
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>>736764
Thanks anon, I just bought some different crops and I'll plant them today.
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>>736766
>it wasn't warm enough for pollinators to be out plus if the offshoots are browning..

Pollinators are out even there there's snow on the ground where I live. There are all manner of flies and such that pollinate that can handle colder weather.
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>>736766
Is it a picture you took? It's got a very nice feeling
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>>736615

I think I'm gonna find some wild tobacco seed and plant that. I've heard rumors that it's less temperamental.
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>>736880
Get over it, lad. I used to not like trips until i realised they can be handy when keeping up a correspondence with a few other anons.

Get out of my beloved gardening thread. You're the real degen here fuccboi
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>>736433
Well not all too far from it actually

Main problem is that now that the sun is getting higher, the southern window the plant normally sits on gets less and less direct sun (because the roof extends quite a bit over the window)
Second problem is me fearing the pot will soon get too small, but I don't want to repot another time (it'll be hard enough to remove the root ball from the current pot undamaged, and near impossible from an even bigger one later on)
Meh, maybe I can amp up the fertilisation a little (like giving it some twice a week) helping keep it in the current pot for a while plus placing out on warm afternoons (hope bees will be around for pollination, it looks like it's soon about to flower, buds have been there for a few days now but still closed)
If all else fails I still hvae 7 more small seedlings started mid-March

>>736452
Damn you probably have to water your shit 4 times a day in summer. Hottest day here last year was high/low of 40/25 (104/77 freedoms) and shit dried up faster than I could look
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>>736028
Ignore the whiner about name/tripfaggin
He's posting in a bunch of established threads.

Now please return to your previosly scheduled planty talk.
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>>736909
Tbh thought about at least namefagging here too in order to having to repeat myself less, but I'd probably forget to take it off when in another thread
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Is this appropriate?
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>>737023

crash that pot (with no survivors) and repot the plant
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>>736028

has someone built his own greenhouse?
How did you do it? Where did you get the glass?

Do you know if it is possible to use car windscreen (properly cut) for a greenhouse?
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>>737123
I hope nothing from the pumpkin family grows natively as a weed where you live...
Remember me complaining about red bryony season starting a few days ago?
Yesterday again, after just 3 days, I removed another multiple dozens of seedlings from just a few square metres.
And as I went on to un-weed below the privet hedge, unsuspicipus of anything... THERE IT WAS.
A huge plant had already grown over the last 10 days or so which had somehow slipped under my radar thanks to camouflaging itself like the nasty piece of shit it is... Already about 50cm tall and ready to flower, of course the turnip extends like 50cm below the ground exactly where the privet has its roots too in the most unreachable spot for hacking out, only managed to remove parts of it while still damaging lots of the privet plants ;_; And it only has begun, so 6 months more of that shit left. Also today it was 21°C and lots of rain/mild thunderstorm, ideal conditions for more of those fuckers to pop up shortly
>>737144
I'm not too worried about getting it out of the current pot, but if I now replant into a bigger one, getting it out of that one again in a couple weeks time (in order to then put it into the garden) will prove much more difficult I fear
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what are these little red/orange dots
I'm assuming eggs from a pest, but I've found them in like two of the dixie cups I've used to start my seeds

Also, how do I get rid of them?
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>>737193
shit forgot the photo
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>>737201
Look like shrooms to me (which feed on the organic-rich material in many potting soils), generally shouldn't be an issue as in that case it's mostly saprophytes that even help your seedlings by making nutrients available for them
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what's wrong with my peas? not enough shade?
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>>737023
>Damn you probably have to water your shit 4 times a day in summer

No, this is a temperate rainforest. We get over 50 inches of rain a year. Having too much water is the problem. Though, some rare years are extremely dry during Dog Days and even the rivers will dry up to puddles then. I haven't seen that in about 15 years, but my childhood was filled with them.

There's so much humidity that when you step outside it literally feels like a sauna. when you like across any distance, everything has a very blue tint to it due to that humidity. You sweat, but it doesn't evaporate.

It is absolutely amazing for hot peppers here. They can't get enough of it. Potatoes need raised beds though or they will rot.

>>737233
Maybe. Though, it looks exactly what it looks like when a cat pisses on my stuff.
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>>737193
>>737201
Yeah, I think it is a fungi too. Nothing to worry about and beneficial 90% of the time.
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>>737273
Now I'm really confused about where you live that you have such insane temperatures if it's at the same time humid.
Only dry subtropics (Sahara, Death Valley...) match your temps but those all have no rain, while true moist tropics are constantly 30°C during day and 25°C at night.
Are you from India? (They have places where high temps average above 40°C in May but then it gets cooler in midsummer because of monsoon)
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>>737044
>>737074

It's not like i'm shitposting, either, and I do that plenty on other boards. I just wanted to come on here and chat with some other plantfags about that awful weed Sir Walter Raleigh plagued us with.
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>>736815

No, I just like succulents and save lots of pictures.

>>736801
I did not know this. The more you know!
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What do you think about azomite?
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>>737289
Microclimates suck.

>>737386
Gimmick that isn't needed. They will sell you anything for money. Consider the wiki page they have for it and the sources it cites:

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=545&sid=20252421

Which itself cites nothing at all.
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>>737386
>What do you think about azomite?

I use it sometimes for a plant friendly powder whenever that's in need (dealing with pests, soaking up goo). I also use it sometimes in mixes for plants that tend to grow in soil with a similar consistency.

I have yet to see it magically make a plant super happy. I'd recommend compost or a good fertilizer instead if you want something magical for a plant.

The serious downside is you should really wear an air filtering mask when working with it more than a little bit. It's a very fine very dry rock dust.
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>>736587
DO want. I live in NC. Where do I get them?
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>>736590
>>736596
So will like a spray waterbottle with lemon and water do? What dilution ratio?
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>>737420
Hose them off with a gardenhose sprayer or a shower sprayer. A spray bottle, unless it is a pressurized bottle won't work. You only need water, you do not need anything in the water. Do this a few times and that should be the end of the aphids. I've saved 100s of plants over the years doing this, both outdoor and indoor. Most notably, tomato plants and pepper plants.
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>>736676
I have a gentleman's amount of free time and also I'm kinda woowoo and uppity and like the idea of self-sufficiency and being money-neutral.
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>>737425
Thanks
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anyone have experience building rain barrels? saw some for 120 dollars at costco, surely they can be diy cheaper. But i'm having trouble finding exact schematics for such a project, just abunch of websites offering courses and dvd lessons.
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Anybody ever try Lobelia?
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Are strawberries supposed to be so easily infected with fungus? I don't even directly water the leaves themselves
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>>737477
You mean mosquito hatchery?
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>>737561
>fill the tank to the top
>there is no air for mosquitoes to reproduce
>??????
>profit
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>>737561
If you do it properly, you're meant to seal the top with a type of oil. The oil prevents insects from laying eggs in the water. Atleast that's how they used to do it
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>>737561
mosquitos are important pollinators.
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>>737525

You're talking the plant? Blight is pretty common.
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>>737419

http://www.organiccontrol.com/category/3/bugs
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Is there a good app. Perhaps in the style of leafly but for seeds and vegetables ?
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sowing some apache chillis today but i only have large pint sized pots to get started. none of the little yoghurt pot type things that a lot of people use. can i start with a large pot and just space out 3 seeds? i guess the smaller pots are just favoured for making the most of what space you have?

pic semi related
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>>737713
reading more, seems like the benefit of shallow, small pots is that the seedling roots will be able to be watered from below. that would be an issue with these big deep pots. i'll try to get some yoghurts today.
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>>737580
>>737584
>>737578
>>737561
There's this thing called "screen" that allows you to keep mosquitoes out & debris and allow water through.

>>737713
It really comes down to space and if you will be repotting them soon or not.
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>>737580
This is clever
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>>737740
> It really comes down to space and if you will be repotting them soon or not.
I recycled an old plastic take away tray about 2 inches deep, bored a ton of holes in it. that'll do until they're big enough for the large pots.
The take away tray lid is quite convenient for keeping the warmth in also.
Just gotta put in some holes in the lids for air as Fatalii suggests.
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Hey growers

I started in seed pellets. Now have 2-3 plants in each pellet.

1) Should I think now to 1 per pellet?

2) Should I cut the netting off the pellet before planting outside when that time comes or assume it will disintegrate?

thx in advance.
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>>737849
>think
crap, that should be thin
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>>737849
Thin as soon as you can.
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I've been growing some sage for the past several weeks now and it appears that a couple of the stems have come up crooked. Should I be concerned about this? If not, will they eventually self-correct or are they just fine to grow laterally like that? If yes, how should I proceed?
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I also just planted some chamomile. Anything I should know? Planning to use it for tea (what else)
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>>737887
My sage seedlings had also grown quite leggy in the beginning despite sitting directly on a SW window.
Putting an alu foil coated cardboard behind them and rotating the plants every now and then eventually helped.
Also, as soon as it starts developing side shoots you might consider clipping off the tip to force more bushy growth (I'll wait a little for that though), you can even root that tip then in a water glass easily for more plants!
Pic related my seedlings that sprouted mid-February. 3 of them eventually survived, 2 have gone into the garden already, haven't decided where to put the last one though yet
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Also update on my Haworthia attenuata side shoot (was already 2 threads ago so can't link any more - is there some external archive for /out/?)
After clipping the runner, I simply placed it on some pot with moist soil, wrapped a plastic bag around it, sat it at a semi-shady place in the corner of the window sill (that was on April 2 IIRC) and completely forgot about it in the meantime
Today I checked back and apparently it has already grown quite a nice root! So I removed the bag now
Also noticed the mother plant is already shooting 2 new runners again
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Another male flower
Last female bud I had didn't open
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>>737891
Chamomile has pretty bad returns for tea with just one plant.
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>>738387
It's a poor return unless you have a field. There are better yielding things if all you have is pots and garden.
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>>737596
Nice! So I've got a box of ladybugs and green lacewing eggs in my hand. What do now?

Also I feel like setting out preying mantis eggs in north carolina would be hella illegal or a bad idea. I used to have a pet preying mantis for a bit in Ohio until my brother set it free because people kept telling him it was illegal to keep/kill them. It wasn't.
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>>738363
God damn it mother fucker. PUT MORE LIGHT ON THAT PLANT!

That is why it is doing shitty, you don't have enough light.
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>>738420
>What do now?

Didn't they have instructions when you bought them?

>>738420
>I used to have a pet preying mantis for a bit in Ohio until my brother set it free because people kept telling him it was illegal to keep/kill them. It wasn't.

I remember that in the 1980s, "illegal to own or kill a praying mantis". Complete bullshit. I'm glad the internet exists now. A simple google search can prove every moron wrong. Though, the 1980s were an interesting time growing up when any smart sounding kid could spin a yarn and you had to decide to believe them or not.
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>>738423
I didn't actually buy it yet. It's a hypothetical for future reference. I bookmarked the site.
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>>738423
I decided I didn't care and felt like a badass rule breaker because my pet was super exotic. I even brought it to show and tell. a little bitch know-it-all hassled me about it being illegal. I'm not bitter about it anymore though. I've grown up and I have money to buy another one.
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>>736028
Hi im new here and i live in an appartement. Any vegetable plants i can grow indoors in front of a window? I dont know jack shit about gardening.
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>>738528
Get reading, fampai. Read and youtube and soon you'll be plant jesus
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>>738528
>vegetable plants
All of them. The question is do you want to keep them for their yield, or is that a secondary objective after having some nice greenery around the window?

The first issue is which direction does your window open to? South gets the most light in the northern hemisphere, in a northern window you might grow some moss or a fern but nothing that photosynthesizes food. Is there an overhanging roof? How UV filtered are your windows?

The standby is a herb garden simply because it's really useful in the kitchen and most herbs are pretty hardy. Start with parsley, chives, lovage, maybe basil. Expand into mint, chamomile, fennel, ...

If you plant potatoes or carrots in your room they will grow. But it will take them weeks to fill your plate once.

Don't buy flower soil, you wouldn't want to eat anything grown in that. Get organic soil for herbs. Or befriend a gardener and negotiate for some quality soil. You won't need much.
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>>736028
I'd like to read the "400+ PDF BOOKS ON GARDENING" but i'm too chicken to torrent after some dude got caught in my dorm.

Is there a mega.co.nz link with the same content?
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>>738551
Do not torrent:

Recent releases (even if they aired years ago)
Label music
Hollywood movies

Torrent in itself is not a problem. It's only trouble if someone licenses a specialist company to run servers that torrent their copyright and track the IPs. It is an active process. No company has money to do that for old books that don't sell anyway. It's how the porn industry makes its money.
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>>738553
Thanks.
Where can I learn the basis of "how the internet works" ?
Things like how do people who torrent get caught
Can the IT guys in university know what websites I'm browsing? To what extend? (like if I use https, they still know I'm browsing 4chan but can they tell which posts are mine? Can they tell when I'm just lurking?)
Is it safe to log to an account, like facebook or gmail through tor?
Do my ISP (here my uni) knows when I'm using tor or do they see just me asking requests to some ukrainian server?

I'm kinda illiterate to these kind of questions.
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>>738556
They can track every click unless you use something like Tor. Or they can pay Google or Facebook do do the tracking for them or find out what you were browsing over spring break from home. That circumvents Tor if you use it to log in just once.

I feel we're really getting off topic here. Just check out torrentfreak.com
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>>738562
Yeah, a bit off topic. thanks tho
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>>738556
>if I use https
Your browser comes with trust chain certificates. They're not all that trivial to hack, but you can just buy trust with the vendors assuming you're not already well known for malware distribution. With a trusted certificate you can basically run a MITM on all traffic, which is what many companies do to spy on their employees. Https is a very basic level of security, and easily circumvented with some money. It just verifies that the page in your browser window comes from a server officially connected with the IP, or from someone willing to pay to appear trustworthy.

You can manage your certificates by hand. But seriously, it's far less trouble to just browse from a Tails stick.

If you want facebook, twitter and all that then you have already surrendered to the corporate overlords and there's just no way to do that anonymously. You'd have to construct a fake identity and avoid having it connected to your real one through logins, phone numbers, browser fingerprinting, cookies, etc.
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>>738568
Did not understand everything but your last part seems overkill cyberpunk to me.
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>>738556
>Can the IT guys in university know what websites I'm browsing?

They will have an automatic monitor to determine torrent traffic specifically. You'd need to use a VPN to get around that or make and use a piratebox. The software they use may merely throttle your internet speed down to dialup speeds or alert campus authorities and have you expelled or whatever punishment they want.
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>>738587
I don't have a vpn. How could I access the hundreds of pdf about farming?
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>>738421
I have a meme lamp on it most of the time
It is next to a south facing window now and our days are getting longer
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>>738536
I havent a clue how uv filtered it is. Its an old apartement. I get a lot of sun in my place. Thanks
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>>738536
Also its for some yield.
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>>738589
Open the settings of your torrent program and tell it to only ever have 1-2 peer connections at any time. That should prevent tripping any software checks the campus fuzz does.
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Is my basil developing flowers (or is that just new leaves shooting from the middle)?
And if yes when should I remove them - now or wait a little?
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>>738787
Maybe. You may have to wait to see if it gets bigger or leafs out. How warm is the nightly temps and how much sun does it get?
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>>738799
It's inside behind the window, so mostly "tropical temperate" between +15 and +20°C, a little warmer when the sun shines on it (not too often though as it's facing ENE)
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Why is it yellowing, /homegrowmen/?
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>>739007
What are those, something from the asparagus family? (still learning my taxonomy)
Anyway, it just looks like spring shoots which in evergreens are generally a more yellowish colour than old foliage as I've noticed (happens right now with my bay laurel, boxwood, laurel cherry, ivy, privet, yucca...) so it doesn't look worrisome
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>>738787
Yup, that's a flower.

The plant will put everything from that stem into the flower and the leaves will get more and more bitter.

I cut mine away. No one ever instructed me and they will grow back almost immediately. In some plants flowering is triggered by shortening daylight. But it's either that or take the entire stem, because the leaves will lose their flavor.
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>>738551

If you're at a university your library should have more resources available in physical/digital form than that torrent. Also locally specific things that that torrent wouldn't contain.
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>>739007
Looks fine, just new growth.
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test
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>>738551
>after some dude got caught in my dorm
What happened to him?
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>>738783
Wouldn't they still notice my connection goes through the default torrent ports?

>>739175
He was a foreign student. He got caught few weeks before he came back to his home country.
From what I know, he was expelled from the dorm and asked to justify himself to some high placed dude in the campus.
I think he managed to escape by playing dumb and low profile waiting for his flight.
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>>739106
Thanks, clipped em
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>>739274
So campus authority wanted to expel him? Why don't Americans have rights?
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>>739437
I was not in america.

Well, I guess I wouldnt be able to access the pdf any soon, I think youtube videos and blog articles will do until I get familiar enough with growing my stuff.
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>>739441
Can't someone from this thread that already has it just download it for you and upload it to some other site? Or even just throw everything in a text document or something
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>>739455
I ask earlier in the thread if there was a mega.co.nz link or something but i got no response.

Or maybe should we do a vola room to share documents if the pace is okay.

Let's try : go to volafile.io and go to the room :

/r/yiLDII

(you add the /r/... after the .io in the url)
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Anyone know what this plant is?
Me and my parents have no idea.
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>>739482
No idea, but what lovely flowers!! Looks like a happy plant.
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>>739482
Looks like a pearl bell kalanchoe
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I'm trying to grow some Lophophora williamsii cacti, pic related is my seeding setup

They're not sprouting, any idea as to why? Too cold or not enough light, maybe?
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>>739502
You should keep them right side up, newb.
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My pumpkin killed my dog
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>>739518
I had a dog like that once...
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Any tips of growing sunflowers?
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>>739529
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>>739573
That's no dog.
That's an Audrey 2 having an Audrey.
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More male sprouts and I think there is at least one female bud too
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I've never been successful at growing plants indoors.

Soil is fine. I water them regularly but not too much. The only thing I can think of is not enough sunlight.

Any suggestions? I do have a planter I'm building to put outside once it stays a bit warmer.
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>>739482
I thought it was a Christmas cactus at first but it's a bit different.
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>>739642
first post in probly 2 month ! have pics up tomorow (ish)
>
pumpkin guy still here lol. guess bugguy left though, dont see any "i am better/smarter than u because" or "LOOK AT MY FERNWALL GUISE" posts
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>>739591
>still not enough light

That's it. I'm coming for you. If I find you I'm gonna light that bitch up.
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>>739680
Stop that, you'll inadvertently summon him from /an/.
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>>739680
the Rhineland anon is still here too
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>>739686
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>>739758
Of coursh!
>tfw this is what just 4 days of fucking limited light indoor growth can do (compare to >>736419)
>tfw cool weather in the forecast so plans of planting out are placed on hold for the next few weeks
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>>739634

Do your planters have good drainage/aeration?
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>>739482

flowers make me think it's an orchid cactus but I can't think which one exactly
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>>739807
I haven't put them in the planter yet. They're still in small containers. And yes. I drilled about five holes at least into the bottoms of everyone.
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fucking rainstorm going on right now.
All my buffallo grass seeds get washed downhill and end up in bundles rather than spread out.
I need something to keep them in place, maybe a layer of dirt or some straw..

I'll have to rake them around in the morning.
Fucking $100 for these seeds.
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>>736419
I always get transplant shock starting them indoors, so I direct seed watermelon.
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>>739942
Did you put straw over them to keep them in place?
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If I get a bitch flower I'm definitely growing the pumpkin to maturity inside, despite the nicer weather
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New to this, basil just started sprouting, feels good
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>>740076
and the latest batch of roses
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>>740076
What soil (mixture) did you use? Looks interesting. My basil sprouted as well
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can someone recommend me a good cheap garden tiller?
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>>739965
Not possible where I live, they wouldn't have enough time/heat sum to ripen that way
Also I had already transplanted it once previously
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>>740115
It's called a spade. it features a small chrome steel blade dimensioned to cut and lever clay soil attached flush to a chest high handle with a crossbar at the end.
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How do I make sure this ginger will evolve into a fabulous plant?
Do I just put it into a pot with soil, put a little soil over it and water it?
I just had this ginger lying around in the kitchen for a few weeks
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>>740127
It would be a waste I believe. Like a potato the ginger root can grow a new plant from every rhizome. And it looks like yours already is there in the upper right.

You can cut off that finger and plant it.
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>>740133
What would be a waste? To put the entire thing in a pot covered with soil?
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>>740140
Yes, you could pot 25 plants from that.
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>>740141
Okay thanks
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This reminds me of Jumanji
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>>740150
What do you guys do with the aluminium foil? So it reflects the sun behind the plant? Is it actually working?
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>>740176
When you light artificially you make every Watt Hour count.
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>>740178
Oh okay
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>>740178
doesn't flat white reflect better than aluminum foil?
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So I got this stuff for my aquarium plants on accident and I don't use it, if I put a small amount of it in the watering can when I water my outdoor plants would it be beneficial?

Also, when I dug up the grass where I'm gonna put plants the soil wasn't compacted and there were worms that means it's good right? I mixed the dirt with some top soil and potting soil
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>>740193
Alfoil is better. Mylar is best
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>>740193
Just different types of reflection
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffuse_reflection
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specular_reflection
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>>740195
Not ideal as fertiliser, too much NaCl
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>>740120
>spade
that sounds like a lot of work

and im not sure i could get the soil as fine as a spade
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My half assed hydroponic system is doing well. I already had most of the bits so I jury rigged it up in a room in my basement.
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>>740274
Needs more leafs
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>>739007
That's monkey grass. It's fine. That's just new spring growth.
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>>736521
that bad huh?
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I've been harvesting my shiitake logs all week now. Bringing them indoors REALLY helps a great deal. No more relying on the weather or struggle to keep them pest free. I just mist the logs once a day and check for mold.
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>>740361
Where did you get your spores/plugs? Those look really great, I love your setup. What's the purpose of the gravel beneath the logs?
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>>740203
>>740120
>>740115
It really depends on your soil type, size of the area, and methods of farming/gardening. Like for myself, I only use a few different types of hand tools and really only for leveling. I use raised beds. It has extremely loose soil. I pull the old plants out, which in itself tills the soil. Then I level it with the hand tools. I'm also not working multiple acres of land.
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>>740368
>Where did you get your spores/plugs?

Originally from fungi.com as "shiitake plug spawn". The logs are from storm damaged maple trees (incorrectly thought they were the double trunk oak in another post). I want to make plug spawn from these and use them to inoculate the next generation of hardwood logs.

If you have a source from a grocery store, for fresh mushrooms, you can make your own mushroom cultures.

>What's the purpose of the gravel beneath the logs?

That has nothing to do with the logs. That is a storage shed that is still under construction (halted do to winter and spring rains). Although, the gravel is on top of thick plastic. When I water the logs the water lays on the plastic and the gravel helps to evaporate it. This helps raise the humidity in the surrounding area and improves the flushing and growth of the mushrooms.

In other setups, like in old train tunnels or mineshafts, the owners will often times flood the floor with standing water, for the purpose of raising the ambient humidity. I'm strongly considering building a shed specifically for mushroom logs.
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>>739017
>>739163
>>740299
Thanks :)
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>>740372
Thank you for your reply!
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Planted out the French climbing beans today decided to take a picture of my garden plot. Pictured are the peas and radishes. Also got some rocket, spinach and little gem planted. Thinking of using the rest of the space for some corn and wild flowers to encourage bees. What do you think? This is basically my first season.
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Is there a recommended first attempt? I just moved into my own apartment, and though it'd be nice to use my leftover folgers cans for something kitchen-related. Are chilis easier than herbs? Are there specific herbs that taste significantly better fresh than store-bought?
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>>740573
All herbs taste significantly better fresh. Many are considered weeds in the wild, they're hard to keep down.

Chilis are hard. They want it really warm and sunny.
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>>740573
>>740610
I remember the first time I dried and ground my own peppers for seasoning. Holy shit, it was absolutely amazing. However, after 1 month it suddenly changed odor and flavor to be almost exactly like what you get at the store that is merely "crushed red pepper".
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>>740610
I like the sound of growing weeds. Which are talking about here? Parsley? Thyme?
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Would someone mind helping me identify this plant? I've lived in my place for years and still have no idea what it is. It's a large bush, I never bothered to find out what it was due to the fact that my grandmother told me it was poisonous.
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>>740629
Parsley is hardy but expands slowly.
Lovage is rapid.
Chives always come back, their expansion is moderate.
Basil needs tons of sun.
My cilantro never makes it. Too cold I guess.
Spring onions and garlic are easy.
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>>740642
2nd image, closer look at fruit
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>>740515

Rocket, meaning turkish rocket? What's it like?

So,

I've begun hardening off my young plants, and thought I had them shaded well enough but I got some sunscald on the leaves anyway. Will the sunscalded leaves recover or is it a loss?

Also, does anyone here have any experience with goumi (Elaeagnus multiflora)?
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>>740648
>>740642
Could be rowan

If so, it isn't poisonous although claims of this remain persistent. It does contain an indigestible acid that is easily broken down by frost or boiling into marmalade. High in vitamin C, carotene, and sorbitol.
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Coffee grinds on pot plants; yay or nay?
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>>740895
Yay, if done continually over time you can lower the alkaline and increase the acidity if you need to.
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>>740280
What do you mean?
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>>740648
Looks like Nandina

All parts of the plant are poisonous,Don't eat the berries.
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Hey homegrowmen, I'm new to gardening but I'd like to give it a shot, what is a fairly small and easy plant to grow for begginers, one for inside and one for outdoors? Thanks
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>>736470
Peat/perlite 50/50, moist not soaking, rain or demineralized water only, as much sun as possible (unless pitcher), no fertilizer. Thank me later
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>>741049
Basil is easy as hell to groe
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>>741049
Potatoes in a barrel
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>>740372
Is plug spawn simply mycelium infested wood cut into shape under sterile conditions?

If so is there any issue with using it to innoculate another type of wood? Like are oak plugs best used on oak logs?
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>>740895
Fungi LOVE coffee grounds!
(and they come already sterilized)

There's a guy on Ted or somewhere who made a business out of collecting grounds from coffee shops, using them to grow mushrooms in large plastic bags, and selling those to restaurants
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>>740371
It's not gonna be a huge garden. I don't know the soil type? This is my first garden.

Any advice?
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>>741089
Don't spend any money until you know what it's for. You can bankrupt yourself just with supposedly ingenious gardening products, claimed necessities, and miracle fertilizers. But honestly until a butter knife from the kitchen drawer starts being painfully inappropriate, don't invest much. You only need a box, soil, and seed. And you don't turn soil or pot plants every week, it's once a year usually.

Now if you have an acre or two to take care of it would be foolish not to invest in some basic equipment for planting, watering, and pest control. But something like a powered tiller is better rented for a day or two every year than purchased and stored.
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>>741093
Ok thank you.

So I can probably just get a spade and dig it all myself?

How deep do I need to go etc?
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>>741094
'One spade deep'
I guess it's about a foot?

You should also know that there are other ways to aerate your soil, and that some believe mixing the strata with differing pH creates unfavorable conditions for many plants and favors pests.

I have no answer as to what is better. But I think it might be worth getting into.
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>>740982
Coffe grounds are not that acidic though. Ph of 5 / 6 or something if I remember what I read a long time ago.
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>>740656
idk, it's just called rocket where I'm from. It's called a bunch of different names though. Actually sprouted this morning! From wiki:

Eruca sativa (syn. E. vesicaria subsp. sativa (Miller) Thell., Brassica eruca L.) is an edible annual plant, commonly known as salad rocket,[1] rucola, rucoli, rugula, colewort, roquette, and arugula.
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>>741063
This
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>tfw skip the 1 year waiting list on the allotments near me because I know the owners
>tfw instead of planting lots of different vegetables like a cuck I just threw 400 sunflower seeds over my land
Get fucked vegecucks
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>>741382
i had to fix this, just seemed wrong
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>>741382
top jej
did you just do this? I want to see results
also what is wrong with vegetables? you can buy some pretty cool coloured ones and shit, plus you can eat what you grow
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>>741382
I don't even know what that means. I own all my farm land.
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>>736517
check it at night, that's when the slugs come out
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Anyone have goats? My mom is kind of being talked into getting one or two from someone we know, but we live in a city and will need a permit.

Are they expensive? The goats in general, I mean. She wants them because they'll eat the poison ivy and stuff we have in the yard that neither of us can take care of because we're highly allergic to it, plus she wants them because she kind of likes them. For anyone in the cities, is a permit hard to get? Are goats difficult to take care of? I've been researching it and it seems they're pretty low maintenance, honestly. Just normal pet care stuff plus things like trimming of hooves, vaccinations, etc. Easy to do since we have multiple pets.

Like I've said, I looked into it but I think it'd be better to just be able to speak to someone here if possible.
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>>741448
Goats and sheep rip out their food with the root, at least when it's grasses. They will damage your lawn badly. They don't eat what you want them to, but whatever is tastiest: fresh leaves, young shoots, herbs and flowers...

Goats are also dickheads. I love the fuckers, but you want to be able to give them space, socially. Keeping them in the city could quickly turn into some cringy roommate comedy from hell.

Get females. Bit less testy and they give milk. I can't drink it, but it makes wonderful cheese.
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>>741501

Well, I don't really care about the lawn honestly. It's not like a live in a suburb with an HOA or anything. We don't really have anything that the goats can't eat or that we would miss if they did eat, so that ain't a big problem. In fact, it'd probably be very helpful that they did.

We've also got a fenced in yard for our dog, so they'll have the entire yard to roam around if they want. Going to go see the people selling them hopefully next weekend and we'll see how they are and how my dog (who we'll be taking) reacts to them to see if she'll go insane. They'll be young, so I'm hoping that'll help them get used to the dog. If not, not having goats. We have a little more than an acre of land, so hopefully they'll be happy.

There's a lot of hope here, honestly.
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>>741448
Goats are escape artists and need lots of attention or at least several other goats/animals with them. The will eat just about any plant, but would rather not eat grass unless they are running out of better options. Make sure everyone in your neighborhood knows who to call when they get out and what to do or not do with them. Keep a collar with phone number/contact info on all goats at all times.

They climb on EVERYTHING, including your car, you, your other animals, etc. Think your fence is high enough? Wait till you watch a goat use a dog, another goat, or you as a spring board to get over the fence. They are also indiscriminate as to where they shit/piss and when they shit/piss.

Got a male goat? It will stink like musk really bad depending on the season. You'll have to learn to control the lead female, she's the one that keeps the male in line.

Goats get their heads stuck everywhere. Don't use "goat fencing" it is perfect for getting goat heads stuck in it, I don't know who invented it but it must have been one hell of a troll farmer.

Keep snacks in a designated bucket. DO NOT PUT SNACKS IN YOUR POCKETS, EVER. If you do, they will smell it. If you take snacks out of your pockets in their sight, they will know where it came from. This only leads to trouble. So, always feed them from a bucket.
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>>741563
So 'city' is more of a zoning issue?
Have at it then. Goats are great.

As for fodder, I assume they can get their bulk of leafy greens themselves. Maybe sow them some clover and dandelions. They will also love any raw veggie peels and cuttings from the kitchen. Supplement with dry mix as needed.

Collect their droppings and compost them. It's great fertilizer and can be sold.
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my strawberry plugs are coming up.
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>>741701
looking good
looks like we may be out of the woods for Frost warnings so I'm going to start my raspberry canes outside soon
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>>740115
get an electric one used off ebay. Or buy one around $200-600 for a medium sized garden.
For a massive garden use a tractor.
For a hand sized tool get a 6 ft stirup hoe, or hand operated roto-tiller.
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>>741049
watermelon is simple. Lots of water lots of sun.
>>739984
just got 30 hours of nonstop rain. The seeds I covered with hay are germinating, the ones I just dropped on the ground have washed away all over the place.

Lesson learned: Always cover grass seeds or mix them into the soil.
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>>741089
>>740115
Burrow a tiller for breaking ground. After that you can wither burrow, rent, or go tilless. There's no need to buy a tiller most usually.
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>>741103
>if done continually over time
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>>741869
yeah, maybe if you use *only* coffee grounds on your compost.
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What is something that will grow nicely indoors with little sunlight? Window pretty much looks out into an alley so I get little light but want to grow something little
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>>740076
when they get a little bigger separate them, they don't like to be crowded
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>>741975
For food or decoration?
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Hi /out/, mushroom noobie here.

I have a large house with a lot of spare rooms and a big basement. Are there any mushrooms I can grow indoors, maybe in my basement? I want to grow as much as possible. I have a 4x4x7 ft grow tent plus lights, but I figure those are unnecessary. I live in southern KY in the Daniel Boone National Forest. I would REALLY REALLY like to get some morels, but I can't find the damn things! Such a hassle. Walked so many miles for nothing.

Anyway, best type to grow indoors? I like shiitake and oyster a lot. If I could sell some on the side, I would also like that, so I'm not sure about the value of them.
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>>741871
The original poster ask
>Coffee grinds on pot plants; yay or nay?
>on pot plants
If you want to lower the alkaline by means of something cheap and available, pour the left over coffee dregs from your french press onto the pot plant being sure that the coffee is room temp.
If done repeatedly you can increase the acidity of the soil given that it's already high in alkaline.
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>>736757
Needs way more light anon. Great nutrients though leaf production is on point.
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>>742005
>pot plants
>coffee
>acid
>already high
Like nothing is going to go wrong in this scenario. You dont want to introduce and possibly cause mutations that affect the chemical balance and structure.
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>>736028
Building raised beds. Refurbishing this chicken coop and building a rabbit hutch. I'm gonna squeeze all I can out of this third of an acre.
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>>741993
either I guess, but I would probably prefer decoroation. thanks
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>>741382
My dad just walked to his local allotment and managed to get a decent sized plot just like that. The joys of suburban east midlands I guess. Meanwhile here in portsmouth I'm on a 3-4 year waiting list.
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Do you guys do guerilla gardening?

Just made 165 seed bombs.
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>>742119
Never done it myself but I'm sympathetic to the cause. What are you planting?
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>>740648
It's nandina bay bush. Extremely toxic and invasive atleast where I live.
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>>742128
Mixed summer flowers.
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>>742049
Elaborate
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>>742049
>>742005
>>741871
>>741869
>>741103
>>740982
>>740895
Used coffee grounds are used a great deal in agriculture by those who know how amazing it is. You can use the liquid coffee from them or the grounds themselves to fertilize your plants. They are great to add to your compost piles, Vermicompost bins, and mushroom growing medium. They add quite a bit of nitrogen, fyi.

Acidity is not something most people need to worry about with coffee grounds. If you are getting used coffee grounds from many local restaurants or gas stations then you may need to double check the pH levels of your soil. But, for the common coffee drinking household, you need not worry about open-ground gardening with coffee grounds. With container plants on the other hand you may need double check the pH levels of their soil.

>>741999
Ditto what I told you in your original thread on /diy/. (shiitake/chicken-of-the-woods poster here) Yes, the chicken-of-the-woods can be grown indoors, but getting it to flush seems very problematic. My theory is that you need a very large biomass for them to grow on and perhaps some other environmental factor like refrigeration to help trigger them. There may even be some other 3rd trigger like a microbe chemical trigger that causes them to flush.

As for your already fallen logs, don't use those for new mushroom logs. Always cut your own new logs from trees or hunt for newly fallen storm damaged trees. Immediately inoculate with the plug spawn. Never use old logs.

As for the sterile growing medium the shroom guys are referring to, it doesn't count for culinary fungi. In fact, you only want to pasteurize your growing medium, not sterilize it. This allows you to maintain beneficial microbes that help keep out the bad microbes (like in straw growing medium). For logs, you don't do anything to them.

Here's pics of my final harvest of shiitake this flush (pic I'm posting) and here's my setup, >>740361 which will be changed.
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>>742093
Flowers, leaves, or both?

>>742135
Toss in some edibles too. Not vegetables, but stuff that grows locally that can be used an an alternate food source.
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I'm prepping my yard for mowing, collecting block for making another raised bed, sorting piles of materials for building stuff, prepping raised beds for planting, and 100 other yard and garden jobs. I'm also taking photos of volunteer seedlings as they grow up so I can have a personal catalog of plants in the area. Then I'll know 100% what to weed out and what to leave at a glance.

I just weeded out all the chickweed (pic) I'm not eating enough of and hoping the asparagus seeds I planted, in that bed, last fall will make an appearance. I weeded out the Purple Deadnettle from the patch or last season's asparagus and found their spears coming up. I'm only finding a few purple potatoes popping up, but I'm hoping the rest will appear soon. My early season Lamb's quarter bed is all planted, but my elephant garlic bed needs maintained. I have so many volunteer stuff growing in old beds that need weeded out. I rotate my crops and I don't want stuff staying in beds multiple years (except bulbils-started garlic and asparagus.)

>>742076
That's a nice good start, anon. How many chickens and rabbits are you planning on having? Are the rabbits for petting or eating? I recommend petting only. When butchering rabbits, I found there's a real physiological disconnect a person has to have when they've been raising those rabbits (wild rabbits are a different matter since you didn't raise them). I find that it isn't mentally healthy to do so. Much less so when it is chickens. And, for god sake, don't name anything you are butchering if you will be butchering, not treat them as a pet. If you have children, don't let them do that either. This comes from someone who hunts deer, raises chickens, and butchers them.
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Gourd anon here, I made a little raised bed on the cheap with something for the spindlies to latch onto.
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>>742323
Unfortunately less the twenty four hours later, the endeavor has ended in tragedy. I think it was my fault for being a dope and not putting the larger one in deep enough for support, the second gourd however, is absolutely covered in ants apparently seeking those droplets of water and sugar from the root pressure phenomena.
Long story short, you guys suppose I still have time to start from scratch with the plants getting to live in situ this time? I'm in the southern Californian valley by the way.
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>>742329
Looks like too much water and cool temps caused damping off.
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>>742185
>How many chickens and rabbits are you planning on having?

I have 8 road island red chicks and I'm getting a couple of does from a friend who works at a place that uses rabbits to make vaccines. I guess a rabbit that just kindles has been having some good litters and she's gonna smeak some out after they're weened. And these are practice bunnies. So they'll end up as pets.
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>>742379
That doesn't seem likely in a stretch of less than a day, something more related to the shock of transplant is what I was thinking, reading up on it now, it seems like gourds don't take kindly to being moved around. Oh well, at least now I have a place to start the seeds in place.
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>>742168
leaves pls
ty for the help, I'm a growing noob
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Just started growing basil for the first time on my windowsill /homegrowmen/, got any advice?
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>>742428
If you want a small tree, the most standard indoor ones are probably Ficus benjamina and Ficus elastica, which both tolerate some shade
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>>742436
Needs super much light, so best if the window isn't north-facing (in the Northern hemisphere) or has buildings etc in front obstructing too much light
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>>742436
>>742439
Oh and do those pots drain, i.e. is there some space between the inside plastic ones and the bottom of the clay ones so you can discard water collecting there? Most plants don't like to be permanently soaked
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>>742444
yeah there is
>>742439
oh shit, I think my window is eastward facing and has some light obscured by buildings, am i fucked homegrownmen?
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>>742165
Are coffee grounds alone enough to grow plants in? I've never done any composting, but if I just collected my coffee grounds in an old coffee can, could I grow something in it when it was full?
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Asparagus season is really picking up speed right now
At the beginning in late March, there were only a few shoots coming up, but today I harvested ca. 3.3kg from the single 25m ramp line (about 50 plants)
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>>742428
English Ivy
Areca Palm
Spider Plant
Pothos
Peace Lily
Snake Plant
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>>742524
Only mushrooms. Freeze the ground until you have enough to make a mushroom kit. Then get some pearl oyster shelf fungi to inoculate it with. It won't need composting for that purpose. You'll need to google up "pearl oyster coffee grounds" or something for specifics. You'll need like 2 gallons of coffee grounds.

As for composting, yes, if the coffee grounds are completely composted (about a year+) you can use it as soil for planting stuff in. If you try to plant something in it while not composted it will most likely kill the plant.
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>>742499
Use a shop light. Keep it like 2 inches from the leaves.
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Hey guys,

Has anyone ever had seedlings fall over (found em flopped over in the dirt this morning) but then stand back up again (nice and straight this afternoon when I got home from work)?

These are 2 week old tomato and cilantro seedlings that just sprouted a few days ago that I am starting indoors, so they don't get light until I open the blinds / turn on the growlamps in the morning. I also watered them this morning, and water generally every 2 days, which is when I feel the soil become dry.

Pic related, seedlings fell asleep?
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>>742553
Not exactly the same, but some of my fig seedlings sometimes do this - all of a sudden let their leaves drop/hang down and stop growing for a couple days up to weeks but then just as suddenly start looking and growing normal again
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>>742563

I'm just ecstatic that they didn't die, it's weird though because it only happened to a few of the seeds, and not all of them. I'm worried they damped off, but I guess I'm lucky.
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>>742553
Had some mungo bean sprouts do this the other week. I just assumed they didn't have enough humidity and watered more. One out of 3 came back.
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>doing beds for the first time this year
>finish planting one
>move on to the next
>take a step back
>squish
>god damn it

Going to take a while to get used to this.

Anyways Bed 1 is where I'm trying to maximize companions. It has peas, turnips, radishes, carrots, and lettuce. Bed 2 is a bunch of misfits I didn't have companion info on: Parsnips, Spinach, Arugula, and Chard. Gonna go back out and plant a couple potatoes in a separate container in a minute here.
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Also, seems like my laurel shrub isn't dead yet, apparently it survived the winter. Took forever, but new leaves/shoots are forming now
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>Planted 4 pumpkin seeds 2 weeks ago
>None have sprouted yet
Panic. I've read about some techniques for preparing the seeds (filing/sanding the edges to allow water in quicker, soaking in warm water before sowing). Any wisdom to these or is it just a good way to fuck my seeds?
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>>742637
The soaking definitely helps. Give em a night in water before putting them in soil. They will sprout without as long as you keep them humid, not wet.

Pumpkin seeds have a pretty tough shell. I usually remove anything like it first. But I've never tried it with pumpkins.
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>>742637
If they behave anything like watermelons, just put them on top of a radiator (to ensure constant ~30°C) wrapped in a plastic bag (so things don't dry out) and it should sprout in about 4 days with very high germination rate, while at room temperature they both take much longer (2 weeks) and only half of them sprout at all, at least that's my experience
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>>742553

Stress will do that. In the summer heat plants will wilt and look nasty even if completely watered, just because of how hot it is.

Of course you mention the lights and how you turn them on in the morning, so maybe they did fall asleep? Seedlings are very delicate and if not wind-treated can flop over and bend easy(exposure to wind/air circulation strengthens the stem so it can handle wind better).
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>>742185
my grandmother planted asparagus like 20 years ago in her garden, and now that I've inherited her garden it is still there.
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>>742553
>>742329
They need shade, they are not hardening off properly.
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>>742710
Asparagus fields are worth a lot of money. It's picky when it comes to soil. It takes a few years to produce any yield. And it only gets better with time.

Do you mound over your first shoots every year? It will double your yield.
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>>742637
where you at?
If it is still spring I'm not surprised they didn't germinate.
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>>742710
lol Nice.

>>742394
>stealing bunnies from vaccine lab

lol That sounds like the beginning to a disease apocalypse movie.
>>
it's pretty amazing that rabbit livers can produce antibodies that are compatible with our immune systems.

but yea evolution and all. I'm pretty sure the animals must be sacrificed (the livers get ground up) so he's saving them temporarily
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You keep rabbits? Tell me all that you know.
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>>742722
yep still spring here in the UK. But they're giant varieties and I hear planting mid-late april is best.
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>>743080
I'm going to be keeping rabbits. I'll ask my friend who some tips I can share. But she works with rabbits in a more industrial way. Goats too I guess goats make a tasty vaccine.
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>om nom nom

My corn salad is starting to bolt! This pleases me, we loved eating its tender greens in winter. I'm ready to let it spread seed everywhere. Anyone have experience growing this green? Is this a bad idea? (It's my first year with it)

Also I've been wanting a Meyer lemon tree -- could you recommend a grower? Seems like I'd be better off with an older tree, closer to fruiting, but advice welcome!

>>740361
That looks wonderful.

>>740515
Cute! Corn may be difficult in a space this size. Definitely you'd have to hand-pollinate it. Also it's a really heavy feeder.

>>741049
Inside - aloe- useful for any burns, itches, bugbites, pimples, and outside, perhaps a cherry tomato?

>>741563
Awesome, good luck with the goats! Hope I can get some someday when we have more space.

>>742527
This looks tasty

>>742721
>mound over your first shoots every year
Elaborate please?
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>>743156
>Elaborate please?
I have never grown white asparagus, but I have learned that farmers cover the first shoots with about 2 feet of soil to encourage greater density.
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Could excess shade cause a mint plant to take on a reddish tinge around the stem and even some of the leaves?
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>>743163
I do not believe so, mint likes a little shade. It is either a species that has a red tinge, there are a few, or it's a mineral imbalance. Less fertilizer, more water. But first make sure it's really a discoloration.
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>>743166
Any idea what this might be? I found a few patches of it growing on the forest floor. Maybe it's just spear mint with a mineral deficiency but I've never seen spear mint with such rounded teeth. Purple dead nettle and ground ivy were also abundant in the area but I am fairly sure it's neither of those. The aroma is distinctly minty.
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>>743194
I find identifying leaves on pictures hard.
Could be raspberry?
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>>743196
Mint leaves grow in a pattern that is two leaves opposing one another and then the next set of leaves rotates 90 degrees. You can tell by the growth pattern that >>743194 is a kind of mint.
Raspberry leaves don't alternate angles, and terminate into one single leaf at the end of the stem. You can see in >>743194 that two little leaves are forming at the end of each stem as in a mint plant. Pic related are raspberry leaves.
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>>743214
Cool. Thanks.
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>>743194
This looks suspiciously like lemon balm
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Anyone able to identify this stuff? (Not the yellow flowers of course) Dunno if a weed or not and if I should remove it
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>>743304
Close up of flower
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>>743304
>>743307
what part of the world?

>>743194
I have that stuff too. It is the worst "mint" in existence. I don't consider it a mint and the odor is horrible. I'm all like, "oh hey mint....blarge!" So, no I'm sensitive to seeing it and smelling it. -1/10 mint.
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>>743356
>>743371
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>>743307
>>743304
That is Garlic Mustard, Alliaria petiolata. If you live in North America it is highly invasive. It does well at out-competing native flora. Remove it before it sets seed, should come out, roots and all, if you grab the stems by the base and pull until it starts to give.
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