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#171-"Now That's a Feesh!" Edition

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>>1044094

Thinking about picking up a new hobby? Want to get a memecaster? Haven't mastered the Palomar knot? Click here!
http://www.pastebin.com/u/fishingandtackle
https://imgur.com/a/1Xw3N

Talk about fishin
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Post your favorite lure or the bat lure will haunt your favorite fishing hole.
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>>1046786
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Picked up the Plano A-Series Duffel. Not sure how many slim 3601 boxes I have in it now but I know it's fucking ridiculous. I'll have to snap some pictures later. It's first outing will be this weekend, weather permitting, and I can see how it fairs over the 3700 Guide Series Hydro-Flo. Only gripes so far is I would've liked to see a rubberized bottom or at least some kind of hardening and water prevention. Also the pockets are horizontally spacious and deep but kind of minimal. Would've been nice if they went asymmetric and put a tall pocket on one side or the other. I see the PALS webbing being put to use sooner than later.

>>1046768
Many states have license-free fishing days where anybody can go fishing over the course of a given day or even weekend. Some have license-free beaches, piers, etc year round. As a last resort some states even offer single-day three-day or weekly licenses which are often much cheaper than an annual license. Check your local DNR website for this info or give them a call about it.

I haven't been checked by DNR once this year. Last year I was checked at least three times. As another anon pointed out the chance of being checked is always there and the cost is much higher than the license if you're caught without one.
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>>1046786
This in 1/8 ounce and all white
http://m.basspro.com/Bass-Pro-Shops-Marabou-Crappie-Jig/product/15631/?hvarAID=shopping_googleproductextensions
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>>1046786
Probably the jig spinner. #4 hammered gold colorado blade with a 5" chartreuse pepper single-tailed yamamoto grub. Of course the combinations are near endless. I'm running smaller blades and plastics lately.
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Does anyone have an amazon or product list which would be good for starting out?

I know I need a rod, 8 lb reel, and bobbers but I'm not sure what is good or what kind.
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>>1046802
more brown girls holding fish pls
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any other top water stuff i can drag over weeds other than a frog?

fucking weed city everywhere i go lately. or how should i approach weedy areas?
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>>1046786

Fight me.
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Shore jigging in the aegian sea...
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>>1046786
Is it kawai enough sempai?
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spoons SUCK
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>>1046881
And yet they catch fish.
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About to head out for a wee bit, have a dink bass I got on a #16 zebra midge a few days ago
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From old thread:

A buddy of mine wants to go into canada and camp on some random lake off whatever old logging road we can find on crown land. what kind of fish could we expect to catch? do all these small lakes in the middle of nowhere have fish in them? This is Ontario btw
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>>1046930
pike, walleye, and perch would be the main things you will probably find, but its probably worth googling what fish are common in Ontario
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>>1046913
just caught this on a spoon

no idea what it is
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>>1046786
can i buy this bat lure anywhere in the US?
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>>1046933
It appears to be a fish, anon.
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>>1046937
hmm you seem to be right...
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>>1046933
One of those fish related to carp but are most likely native to your region.

I think fallfish or creekchub
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>>1046881
Maybe for LMB but it's one of the most effective lures for saltwater fishing. Best lure ever for bluefish and other toothy fish that will fuck up plastics.
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I showed up to work and then they told me I had the day off. I guess I'm gonna go home and get my rods and get on a morning bite maybe.
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>>1046956
>not keeping your fishing shit in your car 24/7
Hope the bite goes well your way, I've been out here since 0600 and haven't even had a strike yet.
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Is this conventional reel spooled well enough to get a decent cast off?
I was worried that if I put more on it, it would slide to where it's angled and into the seam at the spool and reel.
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>>1046816
If it's sold for crappie, you know it's good.
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>>1046963
That wasn't even my fish nor with a crappie lure so have another smb
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>>1046957
I do have a light rod with me, but if I'm gonna go I might as well grab my other rods. The lake is only 3 minutes away from my house lol.

Hope you catch something anon.
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>>1046954
I don't think it was a creek chub, it was pretty big...

looking at pictures maybe it's a dace?
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>>1046974
er... actually it looks like a fallfish lol
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Can anyone recommend me a decent rod/reel/whatever the fuck else i'll need to start fishing? i've not fished since i was a teenager and even then i was borrowing a friend's rod. it's gonna be sea fishing for now since you need a license to fish rivers in the uk. ive got about £100 to £150 to play with, so thats around 190USD
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>>1046772
Would a 1/2oz Mepps® brand Mepps be too big for most bass? I don't catch enough fish to exclude the little guys.
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>>1046989
Fuck no. Remember, a 2lb bass can and will eat a 9 inch shad.
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>>1046975
damn. Coulda sworn you guys were saying FAILfish.

That was making me happy.
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So I figured out what was going on with that topwater rod. The line guide on the reel is rubbing the line and fraying when using 1oz lures.

Good thing I was going to put a better reel on that rod soon.
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I want to put a small northern in my fish tank. problem is, i've never caught a small northern. and by small i mean sub 7 inches.

any good way I could specifically target a small northern? I've caught them anywhere from 15" to 36" in my lake
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>>1046997
Ice fishing with tip-ups.
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>>1047001
same deal ice fishing. even the ones i catch on small minnows I'm using for walleye are double the size im looking for
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>>1047004
Uh....

Buy or steal one from a fishery then. Because apparently you have a very healthy population locally.
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Quick question guys.

This morning I hooked the biggest bass in my life (typical fishing story I know) but I got it up to close to my kayak and seen it. It was probably 4 pounds or so, I haven't caught a lot of big ones.

Anyways, the fish darted back down as I was bringing him in. The line snapped and shot up into the air. Pretty deflating.

I was using 12 lb test, but I know that doesnt mean the fish has to be over 12 to break it. But...how come this fish was able to break it?

Is it related to my drag?
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Last nights frog bite was insane. fished the thick pads the whole time. I had a 5-6 around the size of pic related which is really good for the pond where the majority are dinks. This one here jumped enitirly out of the water and destroyed the frog in open water right on the edge of the pads. I didn't even really need to work the frog like usual. I casted up past the open water into the pads and then reeled until the frog is a few inches from the open water. After that i go really slow, twitching the line very lightly to make the frog twist and throw some water around but not get lurched forward towards me. Leaving it stationary and just bouncing it a little to give it some life did the trick the whole time

>>1046933
Yeah looks like a fallfish to me
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>>1047014
REASONS LINE BREAKS:
>poorly or improperly tied knot
>not using the correct knot
>old, UV-degraded line
>drag set >75% breaking strength of line
>nicks in line from cover or mishandling
>line gets cut on some part of the fish's anatomy (teeth, gill covers are the big culprits)
>line gets cut on structure in the water
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>>1047016
alrighty thanks.

knot should have been fine
i dont know if it was correct knot
line was new
i don't know what exact percent it was but it's pretty tight
i don't know about nicks
possible
there was trees everywhere so very possible
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>>1047014
Well how tight did you have your drag set? A sudden shock will break a line easier than a relatively steady pull. For 8-12lb test I always set the drag to where it's not easy to pull with your hand, but it's not hard either.

Also what >>1047016 said
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>>1047020
If you're bass fishing and not using a Palomar knot, it was the wrong knot.

There's really no reason to actually measure your drag setting for most fishing applications. I like to have my bass rigs to where I can pull line against the drag 1-handed without it being painful, which should be anywhere from 4-6lbs.

Get in the habit of giving the last few feet of line a quick once-over every handful of casts, just run it between your fingers. If it feels rough, cut it off and re-tie on fresher line. That will drastically cut down on the number of lost lures/fish due to nicked line.
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>>1047021
When you pull the line are you pulling at the end if the rod or directly in front of the reel?
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>>1046936
yeah quite a few stores have them

>>1046881
most species of game fish can be caught on spoons. most are almost idiot proof to use.

>>1046933
looks like a fish.

>>1046962
looks fine, i wouldve spooled a little more on it

>>1046989
perfect size

>>1047014
where did the line break?
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>>1047021
It was tight. I dont know if I can pull it with my hand. When I get snagged on something, it takes a lot of pull for it to snap

>>1047022
Ok I just looked it up, the Palomar knot is what I use

Ok so it sounds like my drag was just way too tight. Dammit

>>1047025
>where did the line break?

Um, I'm not really sure. I seen the bass go back down with the crankbait and line in his mouth. The knot is not on here.

If you're talking in relation to the water, it was right in front of my kayak. The bow I guess. It was coming to the top, I seen it but it never broke water. All of a sudden it darted to the bottom and lined snapped right up.
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>>1047028
I'm trying to pull my line out of the reel now and it won't budge. found the problem.

thanks all
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>>1047047
kek
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>>1047023
I just do in front of the reel.

The "correct" way to do it is to tie your line to a scale and to set the drag to ~30% of the breaking strength with the rod bent. But I don't know anyone who actually does this, and it's pretty unnecessary.
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Haven't posted in a while so going to dump some gear
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>>1047064
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>>1047065
What line do you have on the middle reel?
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>>1047065
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>>1047067
Kastking braided off Amazon
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>>1047055
helps to do with lever drag reels so you can set the strike tension and max drag tension for the reel.
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>>1047054
Duckling?

>>1047064
How do you like those rust inhibitors? I bought the bullfrog ones a while back and they work wonders but they're like little foam pads with an adhesive backing and the branding on their face-side liked to come unstuck and adhere onto my lures. Had to leave whatever cell they were above empty.
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>>1047083
Seem to work fine. Been in the boxes for 2 seasons and no rusty hooks.
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>>1047083
>duckling
Little quacker
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>>1046687

Nope, didn't tie it myself but I am going to tie similar patterns, it is a great fly. I was tossing in lillypad s, pulling it through/over cover, etc. and it performed great.

Pic related is today's lunch break catch. You guys need to start fishing on your lunch breaks, it is great.
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>>1047074
correct
quack quack..nigga
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>>1047108

And here is what he ate.
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>i'm stoned
>>1047083 please refer to >>1047109
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>>1046786
Swim'n image is one of my favorites.

Top water has been working well for me lately. As meme as it is, the bone whopper plopper has produced.
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>>1047083
I just put toothpicks in my planos.

IDK if it actually works or if it's just fuddlore though.
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Anybody carry a bunch of soft plastics? I used to keep mine in boxes but got tired of discoloured/warped boxes. Some of the colorants and plastic softeners just wreak hell on tackle boxes. So I started keeping them in their zip lock baggies and I'd carry those in an old toolbag (doctor's bag style opening like a lot of the new Plano speed bags use). That worked fine for keeping the plastics fresh, unbent, and my boxes untainted but came with the pain of having to rifle through a bag of baggies until I found the right one. I've tried the 3-ring "worm binders" and they're nice but insufficient in terms of storage space. Is there a better way than bags or boxes? Anybody know of somebody making a slim 3600 (3601) box with an airtight seal? I'd consider getting some of those to sacrifice if they exist. I could maybe load those up for the outing and just keep the bulk zip locked back home.
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>>1047129
I just buy hooks that don't rust.

Which is anything other than Eagle Claw (non-Trokar) and Mustad.
>>1047140
I have a bait binder. Same complaint, not enough space. What's worse is you can't even use half the sleeves it comes with because it'll be overstuffed long before you get anything in all them. And that's at 1 package per pouch.

Plano has "bait rolls" that are literally just a roll-up bag with velcro-topped pouches for bags of plastics.
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>>1047140
Seperate the bags into more bags.

Put all the worms in one, the craws in the other, ect
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>>1047129
They're kiln-dried usually aren't they? They won't release whatever gas/vapor/oxygen displacer stuff the z-rust and bull frog emitters use but they should work like a desiccant pack in that they'll absorb moisture. Might work better in airtight containers where fresh, humid air can't readily circulate back in. Plus you can probably throw the toothpicks in the oven from time to time on low heat to dry them back out.
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>>1047143
>I have a bait binder. Same complaint,
Yep, I've got two and just emptied them in order to...
>>1047144
>Seperate the bags into more bags.

Local surplus store has these little Rothco bags and I've broken down my plastics to jig/spinnerbait trailers, worms/senkos, 2" panfish plastics, and my 4" & 5" yamamoto grubs.

I'm just still not satisfied with flipping through them to find a particular style or color. Pic related is a good representation of my tackle OCD. Figured out the duffel can hold twenty-one 3601 slim boxes, or nineteen and the bass mafia box I use for terminal tackle.
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Anyone have any Skid x Pepsi fanfiction?
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>>1047163
Actually now that I'm thinking about it maybe I can tag and initial the tops of the bags file-folder style. I still get on my pops about not labeling his tackle boxes like I have. Painful to watch him pull umpteen boxes in search of a particular lure. I got tired of that real quick and labeled mine before our next trip out. Definitely recommend it - little electrical tape and a fine point sharpie saves a lot of wasted time.
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>>1047108
thanks
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>>1046802
Grunt n Cunt
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>>1046786
Pls no bully
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Check out this huge mackerel I caught at the pier.
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>>1046786
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>>1046823
watcha species you lookin to catch?
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Straight tail worms have to be the second best lure of all time right behind lizards.
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>>1046786
>cue bruce lee speech from enter the Dragon
Please bat lure, haunt my fishing hole
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>>1047296
bigger fish are bitin today
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>>1046786
LC mememinnow is pretty good
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>>1046772
Goddamn what a qt 3.14

>tfw you'll never have a great like that
Being a loser do suck.
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So tomorrow morning, the wife and I are driving from Central Texas to Roswell for the Alien Festival and while we're there, I plan on doing some fishing on the Pecos.

Unfortunately, I'm finding very few options. The Federal park nearby doesn't allow fishing and the state park only seems to have stocked rainbow trout in the winter. I'll likely try my luck in the river, but have no idea what to expect in southeast NM.

Anybody have any experience fishing the area?
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First fag on a fly.

How do you fish streamers?
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>>1047351

How do I personally or you just are wondering for a primer while you try to figure it out?

Depends on species, weather, patterns, water, etc.

The general method for warm water (bass, etc. Though that general theory is the same in most situations) is sling 'em were you can get the fishes attention without casting a shadow over them with your flyline and then experiement with stripping rhythms. I usually start with a yoink-yoink-pause-yoinkyoinkyoink-pause-pause-yoink-pause-yoinkyoinkyoinkyoink type of pattern if I am just searching.

Of course there are all kinds of things all kinds of people will suggest but that's the basic jist.
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>>1047170
kek
>>1047351
cast them and then strip them back, or cast them and swing them, or cast them and dead drift them, or any other way you want/can, just keep trying different things. today i got my only bite by casting to the far side of the creek and then just letting the current take my fly, something exploded on it hard enough to knock the dumbell eyes off my clouser but i missed the hook set because i broke my hook point off on a rock earlier and didnt notice
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>>1047355
my favorite search pattern is long strip, two short ones to pull up slack (basically a pause bit with subtle twitches) then a long strip, then two more short ones, so on.
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>feel deliberate tug
>pause for a second to let it swallow
>set hook
>nothing
>3seconds later see a turtle surface
Amphibious fuckers.
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how do i prepare chicken livers so they dont just dissolve on my hook
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>>1047372
Use a stocking or treble fag
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>>1047367
turtles are reptiles though
>>1047372
buy pantyhose, use the toe first, use the hook to close the top of the pantyhose so the liver doesnt fall out, then tie a knot in the bottom of the pantyhose, and repeat until you run out of liver, run out of pantyhose, or catch your limit
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How to rig these little guys


>>1047384
>turtles are reptiles though

Skid buddy... Reptiles can be amphibious.
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>>1047375
>treble fag
L'roy wouldn't steer you wrong. Pick yp the finest Ugly Stik Walmart has to offer. Be sure and use at least 100 lb test, about three pyramid sinkers, and a bright orange, lead-weighted foam bobber. That way you can cast it clear across an inlet, curse at every boater passing through because you had to reel your line in again, and if you should snag... Well, shit, that's what teeth is for. Let some other poor bastard deal with the line when they snag it or have to peel it from their prop.

Ehem, I may have a bone to pick with some bumpkin ass 'groes around here.
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>>1047385
Never seen those but I don't fish a lot of salt. Hollow body? Tube jig head's maybe. If they've an opening in the head they might be meant to rig on a snell, sort of like a drop shot method.
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>>1047385
>>1047392
Second guess was right. Just found this image of one sold pre-rigged with a double snell.
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>>1047392
I was thinking about a tube jig, but they're pretty small so I don't know if I can find some small enough that will be strong enough to not bend out.

>If they've an opening in the head they might be meant to rig on a snell, sort of like a drop shot method.

I don't know if they're meant to be used like that, but that's a damn good idea anon.
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>>1047385
the only place ive seen anything like those is on fluke rigs where there is a 3 way swivel, one side has a clip for a weight, one is empty to tie to your line, then the last bit is about 18 inches of #25 mono with a few beads, a Colorado blade, a few more beads, one of those, and a snelled kahle hook
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>>1047396
Now that's a damned good idea too. Reminds me those crawler harness rigs used for walleye or the little double-snelled worms with the prop blade that Creme still sells pre-rigged.
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>>1047308
cletus, why you gone do thet?

>>1047311
noice

>>1047321
hali's been killin the surf pointers and sp's. caught some big ass barred last nite on them too. never really thought about the fact that perch must kill grunion, smelt and anchovies in the surf day in and day out.

>>1047372
panty hose suck unless its the hooker type mesh type. you can use those mesh fruit bags or buy some magic thread-stretchy thread and strap it to the hook. they also sell hooks made for soft baits that have a coil of wire around the shank, you would still use magic thread to really keep it on.

>>1047385
hootchie. what are you going to target. salmon trolling, kokane trolling, rockfish, snapper, halibut trolling??

>>1047393
that is for trolling a wiggle fin in front of it makes it irresistible

>>1047395
buy the inserts for them if youre thinking that
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>>1047393
>>1047396
Neat. They were on sale at dicks for like $2 so I figured why not.

>>1047421
>what are you going to target
Whatever eats it. I mostly fish for reds and trouts in the salt, but idk if they eat squids lol.
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>>1047047
Fuck, I laughed at that way too long.
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>>1047409
its a common thing in the outer banks of nc
>>1047425
>sale at dicks for like $2
fair enough. id try carolina rigging them tipped with squid, but with an egg sinker instead of a bullet sinker
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>>1047425
naw bruh they dont represent squid...squid have their eyes at the bottom. hootchies represent baitfish. they sell mylar inserts with a plastic head to add some flash for trolling but I like to use a silicone jig skirt. it fills them out and adds a little more swoosh to them.
a action disc or wiggle fin makes them go crazy like adding a chatterbait blade to them..
If youre going to cast and retrieve, clip the top some and use a spro minnow jighead they work perfect with them. these hold scent really well also, just squirt it into the head..good luck
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So someone returned a Skeet Reese "heavy jig/big worm" rod today at work. The entire handle and reel seat had come unglued and spun around freely under what appears to be light use (the rest of the rod besides the fighting butt were flawless, the butt had a few scratches on it).

I snagged it for $10. Some fletching cement and it'll be right as rain.
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>>1047421
Too bad condition at the beach I'm fishing at has been shit. Sand makes extremely cloudy water and kelp everywhere. All the good trough are gone within the whole 2 miles miles stretches of the beach. South of that are crowded beach that have expensive parking fees and north of it are really dirty shady areas and there's a sewage spill again up north. This would be prime season for halibut but condition is bad at the specific beach near me. Hopefully it will improve. I have yet to get a legal halibut this year even though I got tease with 5+ near legal at 19-21.5 inches already
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I'm strongly considering getting into fly fishing. What weight should I get if I want to catch large blue gill, smallmouth bass, dink largemouths, and the occasional trout?
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>>1047471
A 5 weight is a good do-all rod. Will handle the largest LMB with skill, assuming no pointy-snaggy cover around (don't throw shit into lily pads with it), but trout and panfish can still be somewhat sporty.

Alternatively buy a 3-weight rod and use 4-weight line with it. The fly line itself will be more than strong enough (IIRC 4-weight has 20lb breaking strength, if you *ever* break the actual fly line and not your tippet you fugged up big). Can be a bit more aggressive hauling on big fish if you're using the right leader/tippet but smaller fish are still fun. Plus the slightly-too-heavy-for-the-rod line will make learning to cast easier, it will emphasize when the rod loads and unloads.
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>>1047479
Thanks man.
Is there a baby's first fly setup that's often recommended or should I just go to my local Orvis and trust them?
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dont know if anyones looking for a basic setup but...
Dick's is having a sale. search "diawa samurai combo" limited time grab 2 and its two for one you get 2 combos with free shipping for under $40. preety gud deal brahdah bruh

>>1046859
how brown you want?
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Mr. Fishy and the Fish Fry Band Is joining me for dinner.
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>>1047471
>I'm strongly considering getting into fly fishing. What weight should I get if I want to catch large blue gill, smallmouth bass, dink largemouths, and the occasional trout?

5wt. And go cheap on the reel, not on the rod.

Anyone have some good panfish fly poppers to recommend? I bought a box of Betts ones recently and was disappointed, face isn't even concave.. ?
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>>1047497
whats that brown thing?

>>1047471
6wt
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>>1047513
It's a chocolate muffin you ding dong.
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>>1047451
good getting anon
>>1047471
if you are going for bass at all you will want at least a 6 weight, the big bugs and streamers you will be throwing with it will make a 5 weight seem inadequate, and bluegill are more than plenty of fun on a 6. i reccomend getting the wind river/three forks or the prestige plus/three forks combo from cabelas, i also reccomend getting a 4 piece for convenience (its nice having your 9 foot rod collapse down to a couple of pieces less than 3 feet long)
>>1047485
honestly, just go three forks. i played with an orvis clearwater once, and honestly, i feel just as confident in my cabelas brand combo with cabelas brand line. you can easily get them for less than 70 dollars because they go on sale all the time and come with a lifetime guarantee (i broke my 4 weight and they replaced it with minimal questions)
>>1047499
honestly it really doesnt even have to be concave. some of the best poppers ive seen for panfish were literrally stacked pieces of closed cell foam glued on to a hook shank. the body was a total cylinder and it just had a simple marabou skirt. but it works.
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Intex Challenger K1 mini-review/first impressions.
After sitting in the living room for a few weeks I finally found the time to test my inflateable kayak a bit.
Feels high quality - especially considering the price. Naturally it won't fare well compared to a 'real' kayak but for ~1/5th of the price that is to be expected.
It is quite stable actually. When I tried tilting from side to side I was more worried about me falling out than the kayak flipping over. Being a pussy I deflated the bottom of the seat to sit a bit further down in the kayak which solved my anxiety. Probably just gotta get used to it and test it some more to see how big a risk falling out/tipping over actually is.
Also quite rigid. Getting in and out was no problem and the kayak did not sag as you would think an inflateable would.
Also steered pretty well. Again, this is an inflateable. It won't ever track completely straight. Some of the not-tracking-straight is most likely down to me being a lousy rower. It was also pretty easy to driver forward and went a lot faster than I expected.
The only bad thing I noticed was how water seemed to accumulate in the front due to the water from the paddles going there. With too much water there it ended up in the bottom/sitting area leading to a wet ass. Not an issue for the keeping afloat aspect but a slight annoyance.
Thinking about doing the following modifications to it to make it more suitable for fishing:
A sail/cover to avoid getting wet. Some sort of tent-like contraption guiding paddle-splashed water over the sides rather than in the kayak.
Rod holder - as any fishing kayak needs.
Stabiliser/outriggers/pontoons to improve stability and maybe even give the opportunity to stand up while fishing.

Final verdict: 5/5 stars. At this price point I doubt it gets any better.
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>>1047485
>Is there a baby's first fly setup that's often recommended or should I just go to my local Orvis and trust them?

I still love the Redington 5 wt 9' 4 piece I started with. Think it was around $120. Guy working in the fly shop at BassPro recommended it and talked me out of another $29.99 cheapie combo. I thank him for doing that every time I fish with it. Fly fishing is kind of a difficult and obscure hobby, no one wants to screw over a newb who's interested in it..

Orvis has a great video lesson series online on this

http://howtoflyfish.orvis.com/choosing-equipment
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>>1047471

Get an Echo Base. It is an incredible rod for the price and comes as a full setup five-weight.
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>>1047471

To add more info to this post: >>1047587

I got a full setup 7 weight from here (as you can see you can select what reel you want from a variety, I would recommend the surge or something in that price range for this setup):

http://www.reelflyrod.com/Echo-Base-790-4-Fly-Rod-7wt-90-4pc-BASE790-BASE790.htm

And it is fantastic. 7 weight because I wanted my "not extremely expensive" rod to be my all around and a 7 weight is perfect for that, anything from streams to saltwater. Then you can save and invest in a top of the line 5 weight for trout and stuff and top of the line 9 weight for redfish/bonefish/etc. and keep your 7 weight "beater" rod (sort of a misnomer as it is a kick-ass setup, far beyond what the price suggests) in the car for all opportunities. I for example use mine daily during my lunch-breaks at work.

Also: to those recommending he gets 3 or 4 weights for bass, really that isn't very ethical (personal opinion of course but I thought it should be said by someone).
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>>1047448
Ah okay. The package says squid so I figured that's what it was suppose to mimic. This is why I have trust issues.
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Fuck boys this looks nice
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>>1047296
>>1047311
What size and how are you fishing them?
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>>1047805
probably on spoons ugh
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>>1047805
6" Texas rigged with a 1/4 oz weight. I just give it a little hop every 3-5 seconds.
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>>1047833
Thanks man.
I've been doing exactly that with 6" Lizards at my local pond, but I can't seem to catch anything after 10am.
I've fished all hours from 2-10pm and caught nothing, so maybe a slimmer profile might help.
Is there a specific worm that you like?
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>>1047836
Obviously not him, but in order of preference:
>Robo Worm
>Zoom Finesse (I think it's a 6")
>6" Thump'n Dinger
>5" Senko
>5" Senko knockoff (stick-o, dinger, zinker, etc)
>6" Creme original
>Zoom Z-Drop (I think it's about 4.5")
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>>1047840
>>Robo Worm
I saw a pack of these at Academy and I thought they were aesthetic as fuck. I guess I'll go buy a pack now.
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>>1047843
Ja. They work fucking magic.

Morning Dawn has been my most productive color, followed by Morning Dawn with the chartreuse tail.

They work multiple ways, I normally dropshot with them but they do work well Texas or Carolina rigged.
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>>1047848
Also, dinks and sunfish seem to loathe them and you'll get aggression strikes from them.
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>>1047849
They also hold up better than Senkos do. I average about 12 fish before it's too torn up to continue using as dropshot/TX rigged, so I rip them down to 3" and Ned rig them.
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>>1047848
>>1047849
Good shit; thanks man.
>>1047850
That's really good to know. I had a dink rip a 4" senko in half that I was wacky rigging. It would've been worth it if the fuck actually had some weight to him.

Just a general question I have. I've used EWG hooks for everything, and I was wondering if it's necessary to ever use just a plain offset worm hook
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>>1047852
I usually use regular 2/0 offsets when Texas rigging or weightless rigging skinnier worms like the Robo, Z-Drop, and Creme. A Gama regular offset 2/0 is about the same total length as a Gama 4/0 EWG. They weigh a bit less and I think they get spit out at a lower rate.

That being said, the difference is minor, and there's nothing keeping you from running EWG's for everything and still catch fish.
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>>1047856
Alright, I think I'll pick up a pack of 2/0 when I get some Robos. Thanks for everything.
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>>1047452
That's.. Life In The Southlandâ„¢

>>1047546
>lrn2paddlenigga.jpeg
does your paddle have drip rings? in the picture the paddle doesnt..they help deflect the water coming into the hull.
bring a good large sized sponge and a cut in half gatorade bottle to act as bailers. it's a sit in yak requirement for safety.
my friend has the same blow up as you. he modded a piece of corplas to the inner bottom to stiffen it up and added a high back yak seat. still paddles like junk but at least he can fish in it better and rig his stuff to a hard bottom. he also has a bag in the front for his dry storage instead of the bungie. it functions and he's caught a lot of fish in it so well worth the minor investment to get you onna water if you dont have room to keep a plastic.
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>>1047836
Yeah ponds can be weird getting bites. Especially if it's out in the open with no cover. Going to a lighter weight is always a good option if the fish start to get picky.

>Is there a specific worm that you like?
Zoom Trick Worms are my go to.

I also like Charlie's Worms Finnesse Worms, but I don't see those in stores around me.
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>>1047865
>Zoom Trick Worms are my go to.
Nice, any go to colors for the summer?
I'd like to garb a bag of those too when I get the robo worms.
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>>1047868
Black or Junebug, watermelon with the chartreuse tail, and morning dawn are my favorites.

But like I always say with colors just pick whichever dark, natural, and bright colors you like and you'll be covered.
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>>1047876
I think I'll try and get a bag of junebug and redbug.
This place is so pressured I'm afraid watermelon and green pumpkin variants are overused.
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>>1047452
>>1047862
Good news for me

I walked half a mile down south from my beach and found a few good spot. Clear water, trough. It was low tide so no halibut but I see 2-3 big corbina swimming around. My reel locked up a bit before I get any cast out though. I just clean it and will be back to try out the spot other time.
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>>1047896
theyre a blast to catch on a fly. they spook faster than bonefish. what are you using to catch them?
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>>1047918
I probably gonna use sandcrabs. I tried other stuff like gulp worm and small grub lure before but only small ones <10inches would take those. The big ones I only hook up only sandcrab with light line. Never manage to land a big one because they always throw hook or line break. Only big one I land is the one I accidently snagged with an LC while fishing for halibut so I guess that doesn't count.
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is it normal that the walleye I caught had lots of black veins in it?

also I thought it tasted kind of bad (I fucked up cooking it though for sure)

ended up throwing it out
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My first wooly bugger tie. The beadheads I picked up were too small, couldnt even get them past the barb. They were 7/64th size beads.

Would a big bead do the trick or is lead (or lead-free) wire do the trick?
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>>1048000
Either or both. I've used brass beads, glass beads, lead wire, steel wire, copper wire, and regular unpainted Eagle Claw 1/16oz jigheads to tie wooly buggers.

The bead is there to provide some flash, the weight is a secondary concern.
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>>1048001
I see, and I figure the bead makes the eye of the hook cleaner for easier ties too.
What jig heads should I be using for fly casting? 1/64th?
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13 fishing is making a reel with no bearings.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tAjLGaExeuY
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>>1048005
Whatever you feel like. I've used everything from 1/64th to 1/8th with okay success on everything from 3 weight to 10 weight rods.
>but that's heavy tho!
Figure a large sinking saltwater streamer can already weigh half an ounce with no other intentional weight (lead or lead substitute) added and it's really not.
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How do I into baitcasters?

I've used spinning reels all my life, and all of my fishing is either in small community lakes or small streams/rivers. Spinning reels have served me well, but I want to buy a baitcaster for topwater fishing.

What should I look for in a topwater baitcasting setup? I'll be fishing almost exclusively for largemouth and have a $200 budget.
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>>1048008
What's the advantage to that anyways?
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Where do you get your worms?
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>>1048019
my moms garden
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>>1048019
>live bait
sadist
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>>1048000
>tying your own flies
cute

also, checked.
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>>1048016
Fuck if I know man less maintenance maybe?
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when will spincasting faggots realize what plebians they truly are?
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>>1048052
As much as I like fly fishing a marabou jig will catch as much fish as any fly in a trout situation
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>>1048065
i dont think anyone would contest that
fly fishing is a lot more involving and enjoyable. besides it has a bit of a learning curve so it keeps normies out.

im not saying you will necessarily catch more fish fly fishing, i am saying that it is unequivocally better, though.
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>>1048008
saw someone at clear lake with one. its impressive. its no surprise though, with the way precision milling has become so exact its almost inevitable. though i'm wondering what kind of warranty it will come with. salt water reels only in the last 10 years have come loaded with multiples of bearings like bass reels do. I think eliminating bearings through precision milling is going back to the roots of fishing reels. the bearings create the bind point, can fail from the elements and to a point aren't totally necessary.
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>>1048016
bearings are a bind point and pinions take the brunt when fishing heavy drag settings.
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>>1048074
>my opinion means more than your opinion because reasons
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>>1048014
I could type it all out again, or tell you to click the pastebin in the OP.

For topwater, a decent MH rod with some braid. Any Abu Revo or Shimano reel in that range with whatever rod you like. And I don't think TXfag or I would hesitate to reccommend the Lew's memecaster combos like the Mach 1 and Mach 2.
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>>1048085
>t. chubby redneck sitting on a bank throwing worms into a pond
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Will there ever be a fishing reel fidget?
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>>1048091
I literally posted a picture of my catching fish on a fly.

And I'm a skellington so try again mi amigo.
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I lost every single piece of tackle I own.

>kept all my tackle in a plain aluminum can like pic related
>its waterproof and if I ever dropped it in a lake I could fish it out by hooking the handle
>dad cleaned out the garage
>he threw it away because he thought I was keeping dead fish inside of it
>be today
>ask him where my all tackle is
>he ran out to the garbage can
>garbage men already came and emptied it out

$300 gone.
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>>1046933
Where are you? Looks like a Chub
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>>1048102
Your dad's a real shit, make him replace your gear. Then give him a big hug 'cause he's your dad.
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Is there really a big difference in salt and freshwater fly rods? I've been looking into getting a 9wt for bass and pike but it would be nice if I could also use it when I go to the shore or something
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>>1048139
No difference really you could even fish saltwater with a 5wt
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>>1048139
the smaller the weight the better IMO
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>>1047499
Just fish them. They'll probably work.
Face doesn't need to be concave to be a popper, and at those sizes it's hard as fuck to concave the mouth.
Anyway, pic related in size 12 is what I've caught the most bluegill on lately.
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>>1048152
Have fun respooling every time you hook into non trash fish
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>>1048166
If people can catch carp and salmon on 5 wt then you could with saltwater
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>>1048139
really the only difference is corrosion protection. salt water rods wont rust. that said though, if you are only using your freshwater rods in salt every once and a while it should be totally fine so long as you wash it off in freshwater afterwards
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>>1048152

>5 weight in saltwater

If you wanna be a dickhead to fish.
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>>1048186
Go cry to the IGFA
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>>1048052

Not to start hating on gear fishing but Everytime I see posts on top of posts about crazy baits with a thousand hooks sticking out of them and then think about the flies I use to catch fish I always wonder how useful and necessary all that shit is for gear fisherman, especially for catch and release.

It really is just much more enjoyable and (now this is going to cause controversy) has a MUCH better community in general.

Go hang out in a fly shop drinking beers and compare it to hanging out at the bait shop drinking beers (I don't even know if gear fishermen do this like fly fisherman but I'm guessing they do?).
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>>1048189

Why would the IGFA care? The only thing I can think of is you mean using lighter weights for easier records but the IGFA goes off tippet weight not rod weight.
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how do i mine my own tungsten bros
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>>1048192
As a fly fisherman I can say the atmosphere of a regular bait shop is much more chill. Every fly shop I've ever been in has been snooty as shit.
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>>1048245
With your wallet.
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I probably had the best fishing day of my life today caught about 5 of these guys about this size.
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>>1048000
>not crushing your barbs
heres my advice for better buggers
>tear off the tips of your marabou
see how your marabou tips are thin and pointy? it looks better if you lay the tips of your marabou on the edge of your sissors and tear it off before tie-in
>wach your proportions
your tail is about 1.5x your body length, and while it will probably fish it would look a lot better if you proportioned it a little more carefully.
>less thread wraps
two over, one under, then two over is as secure as any material will ever get, and doing any more is just adding bulk and burning thread. it took me a long time to get over how little thread it seemed like i was using, but trust me, it will be fine.
>watch the wraps on your hackle
make sure youre spacing it evenly, and youre tying it in facing the right way, and not twisting it.
>crowding the eye
that eye is a little crowded
tightline productions on youtube has a lot of good videos that should be helpful to you
>>1048019
the dirt
>>1048052
oh come off it
>>1048074
its not that fly fishing is better, its that its about so much more than the fish. its not inherently better or more fun, but it is different, and i think it is different in a good way
>>1048139
action most notably. most freshwater rods are going to be slow action to moderate fast, most salt water rods are moderate fast to extra fast. aside from that they are pretty much just a fly rod
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>>1048260
>Tightline productions
Ive been to the actual shop and met Tim. And I followed the vid to an extent.

Thanks for the tips. I'll try and shorten the tail. Hackle is still a bit tricky to get right.
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>>>1048260 (You)
wow, thats awesome. but yeah, following along exactly with the video makes everything a lot easier. pause when you have to, take your time, worry about technique, speed will come with time.
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>>1048270
Skid, I think you need to lay off the peyote. You're talking to yourself again.
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>>1047862
>does your paddle have drip rings?
Yarp. Didn't have them mounted though. Didn't bother RTFM and thought they were oar-holders or some shit and thought they were useless. Before I saw your post I did some research and learned about drip rings. Hopefully I can get out and try again today.
And yeh, to turn it into a real fishing machine some mods are needed as is to be expected as a) it is dirt cheap and b) it is not a fishing kayak like f.ex. a Hobie.

I really recommend it to anyone who wants to give kayak fishing/kayaking a try but don't wanna spend a fortune on a 'real' kayak or don't have room or transportation for a one.
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I was suggested to let the reel's drag do the work of fighting a fish. If I have like 4 feet of fly line between my reel and hand from striping in, what do I do with that once a fish hits?
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>>1048458
You either let it slip out under finger pressure until you're fighting with the reel, or you quickly reel it in.

Most freshwater fish you will never need to use the drag on your fly rod, unless you're chasing bigger species with very light rods (like bass on a 3-weight). Even then you can horse fish around with light rods as long as you've got the appropriate tippet.
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>>1048320
opps
>>1048458
depends. if its a small fish, ill just strip it in, if its a big fish, i will feather line through my fingers and reel in the slack at the same time to get him on the reel asap
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>>1048346
my assumption of the scenario was correct then..the rings should help a lot with your water problem. as will a good sponge. paddle on..paddle on, my good man.
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Can someone recommend a good fishing kayak.

Preferably something under 500 but not the walmart kind either? Something in the middle and with a paddle holder.
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>>1048458

Very simple:

If you can fight the fish with your left hand stripping the line in do that.

Otherwise you will use the reel.

Tldr; you will know when you need to use the reel because the fish will tell you.

If you play a fish to the reel and then fart around to much (when you could have faught it with the line/stripping it in) it will have a much, much higher chance of dieing when released.

Now if you are catching for the freezer and not catch/release then I guess it doesn't matter as much.
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Where does one find Walleye in and around Illinois/Indiana/Michigan?
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>>1048552
Probably literally any decent lake.
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>>1046772
Is line shyness a meme?

Should I be using a fluoro leader on pressured lakes, or can I stick to straight braid?
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>>1048549
field and stream is a good entry level yak.
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>>1046768

>Asking a bunch of sportsman if poaching is okay

Are you serious?
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>>1048260
Skids the least gay flyfag I know. And that's saying something.

>>1048258
Noice. What'd you catch em on?

>>1048599
Meh I wouldn't really consider it poaching if it's C&R, and even if he's keeping them (as long as he's mindful of limits and lengths) I don't think it really puts him in the wrong ethically. I know it's still legally poaching though.
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Do you guys use EWG or regular offset shank hooks for lizards?
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>>1048139
>Is there really a big difference in salt and freshwater fly rods

guides are different. beefier, larger stripper, usually ringed. and of course the blanks action is different which shouldnt be that hard to understand.
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dayum the fish were really biting today

this was on my first cast

I think one of the fish I threw back died though... there was a fish floating by belly up like 5 minutes later
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>>1048624
forgot the pic

also what's the proper way to pick up a walleye (or any fish for that matter)?
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>>1048627
I hope it wasn't one of the fish that I caught that died :/ I would have kept it to eat
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>>1048628
this one was the biggest

I caught them all in like 20 minutes and I might head back out in a few if it doesn't rain
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>>1048627
>>1048629
You better of eatin those tasty fuckers
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>>1048656
I kept one yesterday and it tasted kinda bad so I threw them back today

I might go catch another though
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>>1048657
where are you catching walleye that they taste bad? even the ones out of the detroit river taste good
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>>1048657
Musta fucked it up then. To many the walleye is at the very top for freshwater fish for eating.

Get both fillets, coat them in flower, dip in either milk or a beaten eggs. Finish buy coating them in breadcrumbs/seasonings and then fry on each side in some hot oil for a few minutes untill its golden brown.

That's how I always cook my fish and they never came out bad. Yesterday I tired crying the blugill I had in some butter instead of oil and they weren't as good
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>>1048658
the st lawrence near montreal

I'm sure it was just because I messed up cooking it but it also had this pretty fishy taste and lots of black veins

is it normal that walleyes have this funky smell to them when you catch them? kind of a bit eggy
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>>1048660
that's pretty much what I did but the bread crumbs I used sucked ass

no wonder they were in the cupboard for over a year

I'm gonna head to the store now and buy some proper breading/batter stuff
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>>1048663
I usually get normal breadcrumbs, nothing special. Then I mix in a pinch or two of salt, and old bay. If we have Bucks seasoning which is a locally made thing I will use that but if not the first three are all I use for the final coating
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>people talking about kayak fishing
I do that.
I bought mine for $300 from costco. Works fine for me. I attached an anchor made out of 50 feet of paracord and a 5 pound barbell weight which works in winds up to around 7-10 mph depending on how smooth the bottom is.
It has bungee cords in the back for holding my ice box.

It doesn't have a rod holder. If you are fishing for big fish you would need to be holding the rod all the time. For small fish I just lay the rod down between my legs and rest it on a little nook that holds it in place.

It was advertised as having two rod holders but they are shitty and don't actually work. They are only half-inch circular dents in the back. Any slight push makes your rod fall out.

I was thinking about just cutting a hole in the top and making my own out of pvc pipe and silicone sealer or just screwing pipe onto the side of the boat.

Protip: Always have rope on your boat-- no mater how small.
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>>1048662
no. seems odd. big ones sometimes will have a fishy taste but the ones you caught look like perfect eating size. other fish that come out of there taste ok?
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>>1048674
it was a smaller one i kept

just barely made the size limit and didn't have much meat on him after i filleted it

I haven't eaten other fish from the river but this other fisherman I know has and he said the smallmouth taste good
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>>1048549

Perception does great cheaper Kayaks. The Pescador 12 is probably the standard. I myself have the Pescador Striker, which is way more stable but much slower. Go to Dicks or Academy for better deals.

Costco also has a pretty nice angling kayak though I forgot the name.
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>>1048677
would chalk it up to a fluke and try another one if I was you... like the other anon said, at or very near the top for fresh water fish eating. make sure you get the cheeks too, those are the best part
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>>1048668
Also: I can pick up the whole kayak and put it in the back of my truck with no special attachments.
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>>1048603
I caught all of them on a academy brand hard swimbait. At the end of the day the hooks on it were all bent.
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>>1048247
maybe it's just where i live but bait shops are always disgusting, run by lazy fat fucks that act like you asking for a dozen minnows is the most demanding thing anyone could possibly do. plus they don't keep regular hours and you never know if they'll actually be open when you stop by and when you do they just seem to be annoyed that a customer would dare walk into their shop to begin with.
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>>1048704
Yeah, totally different here. Regular hours, friendly staff that actually know fishing and aren't just whichever highschool student they could con into working for minimum wage, good selection, fair prices.

Meanwhile the fly shops...holy shit. I literally had one "test" me to see if I was a "real" fly fisherman by setting a standard tea glass of water out in the parking lot and telling me to drop a dry fly in it from 30 yards on the first cast. I told them they were fucking crazy and left.

The other fly shop in the area (there's only 2) is slightly less snobby but every bit as elitist. They carry NOTHING that isn't high-end. Orvis, Sage, and R.L. Winston rods *only*, fluoro tippet *only*, all their leaders are "hand tied" and start at $65 each, they only carry Scientific Anglers presentation-specific fly lines (the expensive ones), etc. All their flies are $5+ with many of their streamers being $100+. All their flies are tied in-house by the resident flytard.
They don't carry anything for bass or panfish and will literally kick you out of the store if you mention wanting to fish for them for not being a "true fly fisherman", despite being in the Midwest and having NO NATIVE TROUT. Which basically leaves stockies (which will eat anything) and pike/pickerel (which will eat almost anything remotely resembling a fish). I've been kicked out of that store twice for asking about bass poppers.
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Today, I went out to try and catch some 5-15lb grass carp at a local pond on ultra-light gear. I was using a small spinning rod/reel combo with 6lb mono with the drag set super heavy. For bait, I used some wheat bread packed around a small hook. I followed their dorsal fins around the bank and tossed in the bread and only got one bite, and I was unable to set the hook. All I caught was a tiny channel cat that barbed the fuck out of me, but at least I know I can get those carp to bite.

Any tips as to what I need to do if/when I hook a big carp on UL gear? I have heavier gear, but obviously I'm just doing this for the challenge. Should the drag be -really- loose, or should I have it a little tight at first to better set the hook?
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I have a 3/4 acre pond that has a solid population of largemoutb bass (perhaps a few too many small ones), bluegill, and a few crappie. Is it feasible to put redfin pike, the smallest of pike, in the pond? Can they survive in ponds? Would they be annihilated by bass? Is this a foolish desire of mine?
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>>1048733

You're biggest problem is hooking the carp to begin with. What kind of hooks are you using and how are you baiting them?
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>>1048740
not sure of the exact size since I didn't have the package, but I found some small aberdeen hooks in a really old tacklebox of mine and packed some wheat bread around them. I just gently flipped it out and the bread floated on the water until a carp came by and took it.
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>>1048736
They can survive in ponds, but unless there's a lot of reeds/weeds/structure they may get bass'd.

I highly doubt that even if you were in their native range that they would spawn in a 3/4 acre pond.

Also, it's a pickerel, not a pike.
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>>1048743
There is a lot of cover, including weeds. I am in the native range of this fish. Why wouldn't they spawn? What can I do to improve my odds of them taking root?
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>>1048627
If you are in doubt with your fish handling and you regularly fishes for toothy shit like that, Just get a fish grip. They are like less than 10 bucks and save you a lot of trouble. I have a jr version for small ones that have tiny mouth
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>>1048464
>>1048494
>>1048551
Thanks,make sense.

A few dinks came off since I automatically went into reeling mode while trying to hold the line.
Today I caught plenty of dinks but no lunker smallies, in fact one chased a dink when I was reeling it in.

Unless I go out at the right daylight, I'll need better weight/sink on my flies. What sinkers do you all suggest for fly fishing? I'd imagine I'd need pretty small split shots.
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>>1048603
>Skids the least gay
and i once threw an 18 inch horse dildo at someone
>>1048660
>fry on each side in some hot oil
>not frying in butter
are you mad?
>>1048733
>6lb mono with the drag set super heavy
youll break them off, if you have 6lb you should have 4lb of drag max. ideally id say set your drag at 1/3 the breaking strength of your line, so then he can make an initial run, and id say the smallest hook i would use is size 8. ball some bread or corn up on that so you have plenty of exposed hook.
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Another fag looking to get into fly fishing. Looking at 5w 9'0 rods per a previous anon's suggestions. My question is: how much castability would I lose if I went with an 8'6 instead? I'm a 5'7 manlet, but would a 9'0 still be all right?
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>>1048833
the fly shop should sell split shots that are really small, those work nice, but ideally, try to make your flies or your line sink. they make leaders that have weight on them, sink tip/full sink lines, cone head and dumbell eye flies, etc
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>>1048843
id say ignore the 5 weight and get a 6, if you fish for bass at all ever, youll be glad to have that extra casting power. and a 9 foot will be fine, 9'' is the standard, and saying "well im short so i need a shorter rod" honestly makes no sence. if a 6'1'' guy and a 5'7'' guy walked in to a shop and both said "i need a frogging stick" would you tell the 6'1'' guy to get the 7' and the 5'6'' guy to get a 6'6'' because it will be easier for him to hold?
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>>1048742

Aberdeens are likely your problem. Long shanks and relatively weak wire construction. Great for using live bait ro catch panfish, crappie, and smaller bass/catfish.

For carp, I suggest size 4 or smaller short shank bait hooks or similar sized circle hooks. In the case of circle hooks, try to leave the hook tip exposed, let the fish run a bit, and set the hook by simply reeling in steadily. No jerking required.
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Could someone recommend a good ultra light rig? I go fishing for large mouths a lot and rarely do i catch many over 5-6 pounds, so I wanted to try an ultra light rod. I was checking out shimano ones but I wanted to ask here for some advice
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>>1048668
Wow that sounds great, I never thought of this. I'm gonna get some paracord and a weight to try. What part of the kayak do you tie to rope to?
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>>1048712
>setting a standard tea glass of water out in the parking lot and telling me to drop a dry fly in it from 30 yards on the first cast

What's the name of the shop?

The only place by me that sold fly fishing stuff went out of business for being overpriced as fuck. Everyone there was super nice and helpful though. They taught me out to tie a few flies and wouldn't scoff at me for bassin with a fly rod.

They use to have free fly tying lessons on Wednesday that I wish I would've gone too.

>>1048849
Bruh I want a 7/8/9 weight so bad for bass and salt, but I don't want to half ass it and I don't want to spend the money. If gander has the Reddington rod and okuma reel they have dropped stupid low I might go for it.

>>1048873
Not him, but I use a caribeaner in the front to run the line through, and then one on the paddle holder to tie off to.
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>>1048879
Ok but how do you push it off the front? I mean you don't wanna rock the kayak too much by stretching out and pushing it off right?
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>>1048882
The paddle my friend.

But it's up by me when I first head out and after that I just pull it up until it's out of the water and tie it off.
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>>1048859
do you prefer long or short rods?
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>>1048885
Ok, I think I get what you're saying. thanks
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>>1048765
They need moving water to spawn. Which means either natural current or a big enough surface for the wind to move it consistently.
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>>1048889
no they fucking dont, pickerel will live and thrive in the smallest weedyst places you could imagine
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>>1048879
The name of it is Trout Master's. In Iowa. With zero native trout anywhere in the state and at least a 3 hour drive to the nearest stockies.
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>>1048886
In this case I'm looking for short. All my current rods are pretty long and i want to try a shorter set up
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>>1048893
I've only ever seen or heard of them being caught out of rivers, streams, marshes that are directly connected to a river or stream, and lakes big enough to have a natural current even if they hang out in the little backwaters 99% of the year. I've NEVER seen or heard of anyone catching ANY species of pike or pickerel out of shit like farm ponds or any other impoundment under a couple acres, even where they were at one point introduced.
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>>1048897
i ve caught chain pickerel, grass pickerel and redfin pickerel out of relitivley small weedy shallow ponds ( as small as 1/4 mile across and not more than 10 ft deep)
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Why do some people in the south call them plugs instead of lures?
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>>1048908
plug is a term for topwater lure atleast where im from
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>>1048906
Yeah if it's a quarter mile across it's gonna be multiple acres in surface area (an acre is 660 feet by 66 feet). Assuming it's vaguely round a quarter-mile-diameter pond/lake would be 31.4 acres of area.
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>>1048910
And I forgot to say that if it's more than a couple acres in surface area it's big enough to have a naturally occurring, wind driven current. Thus the pickerel will spawn.
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>>1048245
>Go to china where the tungsten is.
>Learn Chinese.
>Spend a shit ton of money trying to buy a share of a tungsten mine.
>Cry because all that shit is under state monopoly due to it being a strategic material.
>come home a broken man
>go fishing to try and cheer yourself up
>buy tungsten weights at the bait shop with your last little bit of cash
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>>1048879
>7/8/9 weight so bad for bass and salt
bruh, go online, buy a cabelas three forks 8wt 9'' rod on sale for like $60 if that (honestly, you will be fine, ive abused both of mine and theyre both in great condition, and i like both of them a lot better than my $100 fenwick 6 weight) some #20 dacron for backing, and a reddington behemoth with two spools, and some fly line. i like scientific angler air-cel bass taper for my 8 weight for fresh, and anything that says its rated for salt water and is 8 weight should be fine for your other spool, if you want i can get you links for all of this.
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>>1048910
Ackstually an acre is the measurement of an area. It can be any length and width.

>>1048887
No worries anon. I know I'm not the best at describing things without going into austism mode.

>>1048894
Damn I can't find them online. I was hoping for some Yelp reviews.
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>>1048552
There's this place called Lake Michigan. Perhaps you've heard of it.
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>>1048879

Dude I posted a link of a very good 7 weight setup and my logic behind getting it: >>1047599

Echo performs far above it's weight class in my (and many other's) opinion.
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>>1048918
Yes, an acre can be any length or width, but will be 43,560 square feet every time.

Which just so conveniently works out to 660x66 for ease of calculation.
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>>1048910
ive got a friend that owns a pond on his property, its abouut 70 ft across and less than 30 ft wide,
not only does it have grass pickerel, it also has chain pickerel in it, and has had them in there since the 60's when the pond was made
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>>1048918
quick jump on an 8 weight three forks, they are on sale for $50
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>>1048923
Would you suggest it over a more expensive setup? I probably wouldn't be using all the time, so I'm torn between something really nice or something cheaper. I'm just wondering if I'll notice a difference between the one you posted and a more expensive setup.

If I get a 9wt for redfish would it be overkill for bass?

>>1048924
I'm just being autistic
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>>1048937
fugg.

Get their 3 forks rod/Wind River reel combo for $70 or the bare rod and a Redington Behemoth? Basically get the Wind River reel for free but I don't know if it's shit or not...
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>>1048943
it would be fine for freshwater, snd smaller species that dont pull much drag, but i honestly like my prestige plus/3 forks combo a lot, and wouldnt hesitate to bring one out on the saltwater flats
http://www.cabelas.com/product/fishing/fly-fishing/fly-fishing-rod-reel-combos%7C/pc/104793480/c/104721480/sc/105571980/three-forks-combo/2196555.uts
i have the 4 weight and regret buying an 8 weight alone and putting another reel on it, because the 4 weight prestige reel is going strong, but my okuma cascade is dying fast
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>>1048923
I've got several Echo Solo rods. They're fucking awesome, but a 3 Forks is a good rod as well, and they're much cheaper.
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are catfish the only fish active at night?
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>>1048970
i think all fish are. Plenty of catfish action during the day from my experience.
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>>1048873
I have it permanently tied to a hole that happens to be near where my hands are. When I drop anchor I tie it to the bungee in the pic or on the bungees behind me depending on which way I want to face.

Turns out it was a 2.5 pound weight. You will definitely need more in high winds or strong current.
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>>1048923
>>1048937
>>1048967
Okay so should I get the ECHO Base, Reddington Crosswater, or the Cabelas one.

Orrrr should I save up and buy a Gucci rod.

>>1048970
No, I think it's just that catfish feed primarily on smell, so it's easier to find them than bass at night.
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>>1049012
>tripfag
Sage bamboo or bust.
>but I don't have $4500 laying around!
I like my Echo. But it's literally twice the price of a 3 Forks. Both will serve you well, and the differences are gonna be minor. Your call.
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>>1049015
Is the line on the 3 Forks any good? Will I need to get saltwater specific line?
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>>1049017
Dunno, the 3 Forks I used was not the combo, it was just a regular rod with an Amazon-chinesium reel spooled with Scientific Anglers Air Cel.

I don't fish saltwater, I have no fucking clue.
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>>1049020
Damn okay. I mean $70 isn't terrible and I can always return it if I decide I don't like it. My buddy has a G. Loomis 8wt I can try out to compare and see how much of a difference I notice.

Hopefully someone else can chime in on the line. I don't really want to spend as much as the setup on line, but I know it can make a huge difference.

I have a 5weight and changing the line to something decent made it 100x better.
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>>1049036
Well, if nothing else, I know with 100% certainty the basic-bitch scientific anglers air cel works in salt water. What I don't know about is the species or presentation specific shit.

Air Cel is like $20-25, if you're not happy with the packaged line (which is probably Rio's basic-bitch line, which is serviceable but not stellar), you can always respool at a later date and keep the original as a backup.
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>>1049037
That's not terrible. Cabelas has the Scientific Anglers saltwater line for $35 also.

As far as presentations go, I *think* a floating line will work alright. All I'll be doing is wading around throwing clauser minnows to shallow fish.
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>>1049017
>>1049036
>>1049039
the line that comes with a 3-forks combo isnt great, but its not the worst line ive used. i think it will be fine, but you can also think about getting some air-cel line. and also consider getting just the rod and getting the reddington behemoth. that being said, i would be willing to take the three forks/prestige plus out on salt water, the only thing i can say is, either buy or tie some extra leaders, and the one that comes with it, just cut it a few inches long, and tie a perfection loop so you have an easy loop to loop connection.
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>>1048873
>>1048980
>>1048882
New-Intex anon here. 'Real' anchors are pretty cheap and probably gonna work better. Read somewhere that anchors generally work by size, not by weight. I bought pic related (1.5kg version) for ~9USD for fishing the fjord and local canal (saltwater with somewhat strong tidal current). Should be enough given it's shape and size. We'll see when I get it out on the water again.
As for position of the anchor look into something called an anchor trolley. Will post pics in a moment.

>>1048712
They sound like shitty shops with that holier than thou attitude... here in Denmark most shops are pretty chill. Can only think of one out of five local shops here in my city being somewhat elitist and even there the most I've gotten was a cheeky 'why not fly fishing?'. Everywhere they are up for a nice casual chat about fishing no matter what you throw into the water.

>>1048539
I sure hope so... didn't have the time + weather sucked yesterday but today I am determined to go. I want fish for dinner. Seatrout, mackerel, flounder, needlefish and maybe cod on the menu... I hope...
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Trolley diagram off of the interwebs and over 16hrs in GIMP.
Basic idea: run a rope in a loop back and forth along the kayak with the anchor line secured somewhere along the loop. Pull loop to change position of the anchor.
Ofc. you gotta work out a way to have the loop/anchor stay in place. My initial idea: tie a small loop on the anchorloop and fasten it to a carabiner or something.
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I bought these today but didn't realize from looking at the package that the eye is partly open. What the fuck are these even for? How am I supposed to use them?
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>>1049067
>pic
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>>1049067
those are trailer hooks for spinner baits. you put it on then use pliers to crimp the eye shut so it cant go passed the barb any more
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>>1049067
though it can be used to put on lures like crankbaits with no split rings
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>>1048102
Kill him.
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>>1049068
open eye hook. used for jigs
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>>1048571
it usually is, but there is that one fish out of (insert random number here) who gives a shit. most of it is confidence though. if you usually use 6 pound test, you could probably do just as well with 10, and fishing with the same level of confidence
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>>1049078
looks more like golden stones than helgramites. they also look hard, which isnt good.
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>>1049089
Good. Fucking wakeboard cunts. They are always fags.

>be in high school
>bored on a summer night
>bro kid who everybody hates but thinks he's cool, he has a Wrangler with no doors and he tells everybody how hard it is to drive because it's a stick shift but he is speshul and can drive it
>his dad has money, has a wakeboard boat like pic
>somehow we get the word we're going to drink on this boat
>go over there, meet up with group of girls we know there
>he's tryin real hard to impress them, calls the LED lights on the boat "tits" multiple times and has about a dozen warm Coronas for people
>boat is lifted out of water in one of those docks where you crank the wheel and raise it
>rich dad bro tells everybody sippin on the warm Coronas (and my cheap vodka) to "Be careful because you feel twice as drunk on boats!"
>I advise him that the boat isn't even in the water
>he says it doesn't matter
>he looks like an idiot in front of all these girls
>he gets mad and doesn't realize he always looks like an idiot.
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>>1048840
>i once threw an 18 inch horse dildo at someone
That's perfectly normal.
If I had a horse dildo just lying around and someone was being an ass, I'd throw it at them too.
But just to clear something up, since this is a fishing board: if you poke a hole all the way through them run some wire leader through them and troll them behind your boat, doesn't that officially make them sailfish attractors, and therefore ok?
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>>1049119
Or for that matter, couldn't you put a spinner blade in front of them, a pube-dressed treble hook behind and make them an inline spinner?
Totally ok.
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>>1049057

A lot of Kayak shops sell anchor trolley kits for like 5 bucks and instills toomey is easy. Just put some screws and a little sealant to keep them in place.
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>>1049135
>>1049119
kek, there are some sold with a tube down the middle to squirt lube like its cumming, if you are willing to blow $230 dollars on that it would work for that. good puck casting it though, its something like 5 pounds
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>>1047014

Add the pounds of force the fish exerts plus the fish's weight = what you need to calculate when reeling in somethin big
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>>1049176
I can see someone successfully casting that with one of the autistically long and thick "catfish" rods like the Tigershark.

I can also see a Tigershark owner both wanting to and having it on hand to try.
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>>1047471

6wt Cabelas combo in the $100-150 range with the reel is a good place to start. If you want to spend a bit more get a reel/rod separate and get a St. Croix Rio Grande - even the extra $50 on the rod makes a huge difference. Tho Cabelas is good for entry level
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>>1049197
i have a 5'6'' uglystik tiger i use for king rigging, i would try it, but i dont want to risk line cutting in to it.
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>>1049204
So use something like 10lb mono.

Make sure to stop the forward cast abruptly so the line breaks and you launch the dildo towards the horizon.
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>>1049197
>>1049176
>/out/ tries their hand at dildo fishing
>fish eats it
>holyshit.jpg
>line breaks
>dammit.exe
>Old Norwegian guy catches fish next
>cuts it open, surprise!
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Got a nice salmon two days ago (83cm long)
Interestingly, all salmons I've caught over the years got hooked on a particular spinner model in a certain color. I've tried multiple spinners and spoons, but that orange one seems to do the job on my river. Always keep a couple of them in my box since it's not unusual to snag in strong current.
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>>1049078

They look great but you do want them to be 'soft' ish so they move. Fly tying:
1) movement/presentation first
2) appearance second

Some of the biggest fish I've caught on a fly were on the worst tied pieces of shit you've ever seen. However....in the water the movement looked fluid and natural.
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just hooked up the same pike twice

he still had my jig in his mouth when he bit my spoon

it's too big for me to lift up this 3 foot drop though
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>>1049232
take your shoes and shirt off, jump in the water and grab him then, dont be a pussy
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>>1049234
holy shit I just caught it again

got my jig back too lol
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half tempted to get a cheap cabellas fly rod on sale just for trout in my area,
or i could just run most of the stuff with a splitshot or casting bubble
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>>1049246
Casting bubble is a real thing?
I once heard my dad mentioning that my grandfather would use flies with a casting bubble and I thought it sounded dumb.
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>>1049253
its basically a small bobber, meaning you can use most if not all flys on a spinning setup
which is what il probably do
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>>1049253
its a real thing, its literally just a clear plastic bobber
>>1049246
bruh, for less than $50 you can get this
http://www.cabelas.com/product/fishing/fly-fishing/fly-fishing-rod-reel-combos%7C/pc/104793480/c/104721480/sc/105571980/black-copper-river-combo/2145897.uts
if trout and bluegill are all you are after, get either the 9' 5 weight, and buy some 9' 3x leaders and a spool of 3x tippet with it. add some flies and youre ready to fish.
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>>1049256
yeah, but i could spend 50 on that, or i could spend 50 on flys, and just run it with my ultralight
my only concern would be dry flys, but even then behind a casting bubble would work
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>>1049256
or i could just spend like $10 on flys and acheve the same thing
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>>1049260
the thing with fly fishing is, im not going to try and sell it as a mor effective way to fish, or a better way, or any of that. but when you fly fish, fishing becomes about so much more than just fish. its about knowingly using gear that is harder to use to catch fish, the challenge, its like learning how to fish all over again, and you will get frustrated from time to time, but if you keep with it, and study it, i think, your understanding of fish and fishing will blossom immensely.
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>>1049260
>>1049265
>>1049267
its like driving an old unreliable car from the 60s. there are cars that are faster, that are more comfortable, that are newer and shinier. but there is something special about the hard way, the bloody knuckles, sweat and grease soaked clothes, the hours spent trying to figure out whats wrong this time. the effort of getting it to drive makes driving it so much more rewarding. fly fishing is the same way.
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>>1049267
i hav fly fished in the past, and also am crudely restoring an old split cane bamboo rod i actually just need to get line, though i have no clue what weight
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>>1049256
That's the 5wt I have. It's done me pretty good.
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>>1049107
Great story. Next time kill yourself before typing.
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>>1047514
A classic pairing.
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>>1047896
>It was low tide so no halibut

All the advice I read on forums say to fish for Halibut during low tide but I've only caught one so far and it was near high tide.

Are they lying or are you lying?
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>>1047918
How long will you leave those BSPs in the bucket like that? Do you eat them?
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how do i tie a figure 8 loop knot every youtube video is confusing as fuck
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>>1049313
Dont, its shite, tie a no slip loop knot
https://youtu.be/1MGTgvAvm64
>>1049272
Your best bet is to take it to the fly shop and try a few lines. They will usually be happy to take you to the grass to find what weight it is. Then you can buy a reel, line, and backing all at once
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Hey all, I'm wanting to get a new kayak. I can't afford top price ones, so I've narrowed it down to 3 within the range I would spend.

Anyone have experience with these? Or know which would be the best? I've heard Sundolphin is kinda looked down on for being for poor people.
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what kind of setup/hooks/rig do you guys recommend for catching baitstealers (saltwater)? its so frustrating throwing out a bottom rig and its picked clean within seconds because croaker and pinfish destroy it. i can catch them sometimes and use them cutbait but i think i'm just getting lucky.
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>>1049305
Found the wakeboarder.
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>>1049363
Nothing even happened in that story, though.
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>>1049271
See, my autistic self looks at it like Logic:

Occam's Razor is a very powerful logical principle explained this way:
>things are not to be multiplied without reason
Aka, the simplest solutions are the best ones.
Not that you can't have gigantically complex and mostly indecipherable (to me) shit like the math behind General Relativity-you can. But the principle means that for shit like GR, all of that insane and horrible math IS the easy way to understand it.

So it is with fly fishing. It is exacting, autistic, and wankerous, but there are also times and places where IT IS the easiest and most productive method. .
All of the research, the fly tying, the casting practice, tapered leaders and all the rest-it's all preparation for when fishing gives you a calculus problem. Most times fishing is addition and you won't need all that shit. But sometimes it isn't, and you will.
>how the FUCK are bluegill not even hitting fucking WORMS?!?
>what do you MEAN trout aren't hitting spinners?
>why won't the bass take any lure I throw? HE'S A FUCKING BASS! AND I CAN FUCKING SEE HIM!!
That's when the fly fishing autism comes in real handy. When everybody else will be giving up and going home, you will be catching fish.
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>>1049309
I meant it was too low tide at area where it's too shallow. Typically you would want maybe at least 4-5 feet of water at a spot so halibut can be comfortable in there. Corbina won't give a fuck and willing to swim in 1-2 ft of water though. I've had tremendous success with low tide before because that's when the water is usually calmest and halibut prefer that condition to feed. Each low tide is different too since someday the tide bottom out at like -2 but some other day it bottom out at 1.

High tide gives me more confident though if I already know there's structure at a spot. If the sea isn't too rough, halibut will still be there but you would have to make multiple cast because they don't chase and hit lures as well when the water is a bit rough. Even then, at high tide, if the water is too rough, the croaker/perch will be biting and you can catch them instead and not get skunked
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>>1049352

If you're more than 200lbs, look for a 12 footer at the smallest. Also, sit on tops gather less water and are easier to handle fish in and upright after flipping g than sit inside. You WILLIAMS fall out/capsize one day if you boat enough.

Check out craigslist for good deals. Tons of people get a kayak, find out they barely use it, then sell it for cheap
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>>1049381
Thanks. I'm actually not even close to 200. 135 lbs so weight is not an issue.

I thought about sit on top but it just seems like it's so easy to fall off of.
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>>1049378

To add to this Fly Fishing has a much greater range of bait/flies that you can use. You can use ultralight/ultra-small/topwater flies and land big panfish (like stonefly nymphs/midges/helgramites) .....or with the same rod (assuming 9ft 6wt) you can throw out some massive streamer or leech pattern. My last outing I went through 5 diff patterns and landed bass on 3 of them within an hr (trying out new ties)

Favorite/most productive flies atm for me are:
>thunder creek minnows w/artificial head (topwater size 6 streamer-stays in top 1ft)
>flashy olive green wooly bugger (weighted)
>size 6 frog popper
>large foam Spider popper (near weightless)
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>>1049319
i have a shitty old fly reel , that being said its tiny, definatley wont fit an entire thing of fly line + bcking
it probably wont even fit an entire thing of fly line
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>>1049356

With baitstealers, you need big live bait. Shrimp too big for them to brazenly attack. Live shrimp. Live croaker/mullet.

Ditching bottom fishing and going higher in the water column also helps. Live lining bait keeps it alive longer and keeps it moving/able to ward of tiny fish. A popping cork also helps attract larger fish.

Moving is also a very viable- and often the only real- solution. If you've got a school of smaller fish (which can be dozema or hundreds strong) and they keep getting food tossed to them via your and others, hooks, they aren't moving. You just need to come back when they're gone or when you know the fish you're targeting are actively feeding in force.

Target big feeding fish by following birds, slicks, their preferred cover, and consulting tidal charts.
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>>1049356
just put on a tiny hook, with a few splitshots, and a tiny tiny piece of shrimp, use a light rod and it can actually be quite fun
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>>1049378

I feel the same way about bait fishing, only I catch my own bait wherever Im fishing 90% of the time.

So many people think it's as simple as soaking a worm or minnow for an hour.

But between finding out where/how/on what the fish are feeding, tracking *that* creature down, catching it, then locating fish and presenting the bait in the most life like manner (and being willing to move and change as conditions do) I find it to be the most productive form of fishing that gets you closest to actually understanding the ecosystem.

And it's way way way less expensive or gear dependent than fly/lure fishing.
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>>1049408
>>1049408
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>>1049386
I have a few like that. It might be sized for very lightweight fly line. In which case, getting a (cheap and used, but) slightly bigger fly reel from someplace like eBay is called for.
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Anyone know of a pedal powered kayak that's not hobie? I can spend around 1.5k. The hobies are like 5k and I find that ridiculous.
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>>1049413

The new Pescador Pilot is about 1 to 2k and comparable Wilderness Systems and it's ilk which are like twice the price.

I'm totally getting one after I get a new truck. Not transporting that on a roof top.
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