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Old thread: >>1039376

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>>1043291
first time lurker here, I'm really interested in learning how to grown some food.
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>>1043189
Trade them to friends, family, and neighbors for foods you are not growing.

>>1043260
Bonsai?

>>1043293
Make a list of foods you like, check the ingredients, research how to grow those plants, research what cultivars are best for your location, grow those cultivars.
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I need some advice. Two days ago I was doing yard work which involved completely removing a twenty year old english ivy that grew ugly and unchecked. It turns out it formed some really nice trunks so having choice between discarding them right away and trying to do something interesting with them I pulled them from the ground as carefully as possible given the conditions (it grew in mostly sand and brick rubble somehow) and planted them in pots for now.
Due to the pruning 100% of the leaves are gone and roots had to be reduced significantly during harvesting. I planted them in much richer soil, on the second day fertilized with something that should encourage rooting and left it in a half shade under a large tree.
I don't expect much, wouldn't be surprised if they all died but from what I observed over the years english ivy is extremely resilient and grows like a weed essentially.
In about how long you think I should expect to see signs if they'll make it or not?
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>>1043294
if any survive I could probably fashion them into bonsai in some years. This would be my first attempt though, never tried bonsai before and it just seemed a waste to toss them
(reposted >>1043295)
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>>1043297
Bonsai is the typical use for ripping out older plants that have nice trunks. In fact, contacting landscaping companies to get stuff they rip out is great for acquiring excellent bonsai material. The practice helps skip decades of slow growth to get a nice looking trunk.

Basically, just repot them in some large pots like 3-5+ gallon sized pots. That will help them recover quickly. That is standard, until you get the shape you want for the bonsai. Only after that do you actually put them into a shallow bonsai pot for display purposes. Also, they are only ever inside when you are displaying them, like during a party or something. Otherwise, they stay outside.
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>>1043300
ok, but what concerns me is that because of the way I got them they have no leaves and probably less root than they should
is it possible at all for the ivy to make it in those conditions?
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>>1043303
I'd be surprised if it doesn't, it's a very tough plant.
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>>1043303
Plant them, water them correctly, and find out. Also, there's a dedicated bonsai thread on /an/ right now: >>>/an/2403300
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>>1043309
>>1043306
neat, thanks
I'll be asking further on /an/
I'll maybe post some pictures later, if anyones curious
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>>1043317
pics
>>>/an/2413983
>>>/an/2413985
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Is this good or bad?
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>>1043400
Purge.
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>>1043400
Bad looks like a grasshopper idk
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>>1043400
It is a "Katydid". Kill it.
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>>1043400
Tettigoniidae can be good or bad but if you're a eurofag too it's probably bad.
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>>1043416
Fucking Australia.
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my pumpkin has a bad cut in his stem is he going to make it? If yes will it influence it negatively?
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>>1043908
I don't know about pumpkin specifically, but I've had a couple bean vines survive some serious trauma. One of them had a huge split right down one side of its base, so deep that the vine in that section folded apart to become more flat than cylindrical. On another one, a flower shoot got snapped essentially in half, it pulled a 180 and was only holding on by a small bit. It still ended up healing the wound and producing beans from that stalk.

I don't know if the resilience/healing differs much between different plants, though.
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>>1043987
Here's the whole plant, I think it's gonna be alright though I considered buying some plant glue to seal it up or use some duct tape.
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i found if i just trim the bushes real good n pick up some grass clippings(threw away the bag) I have plenty for the compost bins. I have become captain compost.
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Rate my acre
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Pre outside
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>>1044143
>>1044148
Wait....you finally planted them!?
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>>1043400
Katydid, its just a pest like a grasshopper. They aren't a problem unless they're eating your crops.
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>>1044158
Yes,
Last week
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>>1044143
4sqft/hectare
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>>1043400
found some on my tomato plants, should I be worried? So far I haven't noticed any damage
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>a month ago
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>>1044170
Hope they do well. I was worried they'd never see the light of day. lol

>>1044178
Don't be too worried. They are sorta rare when compared to other grasshoppers. Unless there's a swarm, even grasshoppers usually don't do to much damage this late in the season.
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>tfw the first zucchini of the season
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Rather than the usual tomato plants my family grows, they decided to plant a bunch of random peppers (not sweet, like cayenne/chili etc.).
My question is what exactly can you do with peppers beyond the obvious canning or just chopping them up and putting them in food?
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>>1044247
pickled peppers are pretty good imo
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>>1044247
Grind into pepper flakes.
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>>1044247
Freeze them.
Dehydrate them & grind up into flakes or powder.
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>>1043384
Current status, exactly 2 months later.
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>>1044282
And I thought this one wouldn't make it, only 1 of 3 seeds sprouted, it was one of the last to sprout too, and the seed shell was stuck on it for a long time so it looked like shit.
Everything went better then expected.
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Note sure I did the right thing for this one, I noticed a lot of growth in the centre, close to the stems, so I removed about 5 of the bigger leaves on that one side, assuming it'd like the extra light?
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>>1044289
I hope you are prepared for fucking capensis everywhere.
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>>1044294
I am, already posted on a local site to give em away. I really like them, but I've had em when I was a kid, and even then I didn't manage to kill them and they spread to all nearby pots.
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>>1044247
>dry them
Cut them into 1cm rings, put on oven rack, turn oven to 80°C, leave door slightly open. wait two hours.
Voila perfectly dried, attractive pepper rings that retain some of their seeds. Easy to dose that way too.

>pickling
Easy and delicious. Cheap too. Just go the same route you would go with cucumbers (ask your (grand)parents).

>Sauce
Cut a variety of peppers into big chunks. Cut an onion, cut some garlic, roast garlic and onion in oil til caramelized, add your peppers. Salt. Roast until peppers get browned or blackened. But in blender with some water, blend. Add a good squeeze of lemon or lime and some vinegar. Easy as fuck hot sauce.

>candied peppers
https://fatalii.net/candied_peppers.pdf

>stuffing
Fill them with a mix of cream cheese, gouda, salt, pepper and a smudge of mustard. Fry them or batter and deep fry them.

>juice them
Some anon in an earlier thread said he added some chile juice to orange juice for a nice additional kick.

>Chile vodka
Get nice bottle of vodka. Add halved peppers. Let it rest for a few weeks.
For aesthetics, replace pepper halves with fresh, new whole ones.

>Dip them in a fondue
Seriously.
Chocolate fondue works too.

>Chili con Carne
Cook a huge batch of it, freeze several portions for easy and tasty meals later on.
>If you have some larger ones, you can mix some of your Chili con Carne with rice and cheese and stuff the larger peppers with it. Serve with some sour cream and a side of salad.

>Freeze them
Cut them in chunks and fill them into ice cube tray. Freeze. When frozen fill pepper cubes into bags. Convenient, "fresh" peppers whenever you want to throw them into foods
>salads, stir frys, marinades, soups, sauces, salsas, ....


Pic related is also full of interesting recipes.
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>>1044282
Looking at that stem I would say this is your future chile bonsai right here.

>>1044288
>Everything went better then expected.
Indeed.

>>1044289
Was not neccessarily needed but looking at it, it will hardly stunt its growth. Where were the removed leaves situated?
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>>1044354
>Looking at that stem I would say this is your future chile bonsai right here.
Yup. If I remember correctly that is also the one where I buried a marble ball beneath the roots (one like this: http://img00.deviantart.net/ecef/i/2009/094/d/5/marble_ball_by_kawproductions.jpg), so that might become something interesting. I have 2 others that have a similar stem, very promising.

>>1044354
>Where were the removed leaves situated?
Pic related is more or less the area they were covering.
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>>1044385
Yeah, you just made it a little loopsided. No worries.
But the leaves are who want the sunlight so....
And some peppers just want to grow bushy.
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sorry for the pixels, shitty camera app.
>avocado 1/3
>lemon or orange 1/3
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>>1044481
all 3 lemon plants in pic plus couple of late start mini bell peppers.
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>flat parsley
>garlic chives
>aloe Vera (2)
>Uzbekistan melon plant

Growing these 3 avocado plants over the years have been a learning experience. These plants are voracious feeders ,lol. Noticed the stems were yellowing and the leaves turning brown so every couple of weeks I've been hitting them w/ a high nitro solution. Seems to be working.
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>>1044492
Nice collection. Yeah, they will need more feed than normal simply because of the tiny pot.
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Is it normal for a squash vine to drop old leaves as it grows?
The new leaves are fine, and the vine itself is still green, but the leaves closest to the base have been turning soft and yellow, then withering and falling off altogether.
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>>1044551
Forgot to flip the image.
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>about to go to sleep
>check weather
>frost advisory
At the end of June, give me a break. The weather this year blows.
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>>1044611

Its going to be cold here for the next week where i live.
cold winds are blowing down from Iceland.

Its supposed to be colder for the next week then it was on Christmas day last year.
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>>1044611
>>1044629
Here it has become a bit colder too, after the 36°C on Thursday, only up to 26 today, and at night it might even drop to 13 next weekend. But I welcome it, as some rain might be on the way finally, plus I hopefully won't sweat as much during sleep
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>>1044551
Not really, no. I've found that they only do that when there's some sort of problem. Otherwise, they last until the plant dies in the fall due to cold weather/frost. I've no clue what does it though. There's so many terminal-causing pests and fungi that can do that. Check for aphids.

>>1044611
>>1044629
>>1044681
Cover your plants.

>meanwhile the low last night here is currently 94F/34C and 100% humidity WHILE it was raining WTF send halp

It way cooler now thankfully.
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>>1044688
>Cover your plants.
Meh, I'm the guy with the low of 13, this is actually around the average low for June. Back in April all my peppers and most of my tomatoes survived -2, so right now everything should be fine frost-wise until around November (aside the criminal lack of water)
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What should I plant lads?
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>>1044787
What's your favorite veggie? What's your favorite froot? How about leafy green?
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>>1044787
Peppers yield quite a lot per plant and are versatile in cooking.
Pole beans produce quickly and constantly. I've only got four plants and I'm harvesting at least a serving of beans nearly every day.
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>>1044790
>>1044792
I've got a bunch of cherry tomatoes planted, 2 lemons, and some herbs. All from seed

I'll consider what you suggested. I remember when we had to grow beans in primary school - the one I planted grew tall as fuck real fast
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>>1044799
what zone do you live in?
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>>1044804
Central Europe - Croatia. It's >35°C here the entire summer
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>>1044805
melons
citrus fruits
blackberries, rasberries, et
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There was a thunderstorm and these yellow thing appear afterward, I assume they are pollen but I'm not sure.
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The yellow spots on my tomato plant are spreading to higher leaves, so it's probably not sunburn. The closest match I can find in pictures is "tomato leaf mold." It's definitely some type of fungus.

Anyway, is it better to cut off a branch once the spotting on that branch's leaves gets really bad? Or should I just leave them alone?
I know I can't cure it, but I'd still like to prolong its life.
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>>1044812
looks like pollen ,kind of. only in that pot? weird that its clumped .

>>1044816
yes, cut it (leaves branches). do you have the soil covered with any type of mulch or anything around the base? Also, do you have access to lyme?
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>>1044787
Peppers.
The answer is always peppers
>peppers are love, peppers are life
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>>1044812
fuligo septica perhaps?
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my whole garden is leaning towards the rising sun. kinda funny looking. they don't get much sun in the evening because the woods.
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Holy fuck did I get a swarm of spotted cucumber beetles.

Picked prolly 20 off 3 plants today.
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>>1044817
It in on multiple pot. I assume it is pollen since my arm had some of those yellow stuff during the thunderstorm.
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Hey guys, have a couple of these growing in my garden. I've moved them, but I'm curious as to what they are.
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>>1044857
I'm seeing 100s of them all over the place, in the garden and out. Worst year for insects, but good year for pest eaters too. Plant more.

I'm fearing the squash bug apocalypse in a few days.
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>>1044887
Buttercup?
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>>1044820
What sort?

>>1044809
The problem with citrus fruits is that I've got to take them inside in October or so

>melons
planted some watermelons in my grandma's garden the other year, they were aight
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>>1044904
What's your favorite kind of pepper?
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>>1044904
http://www.rareseeds.com/store/vegetables/melon/

& like >>1044820
stated, peppers. always peppers
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>>1044904
Like >>1044906 said, that depends what you like.
Do you want sweet peppers? Grow banana peppers, Golden Sun bell peppers, California Wonder bell peppers, Chocolate Mini Bells.

Do you like mild peppers? Anaheim, Trinidad Perfume, Poblano.

Do you want medium peppers? Cayennes are always a good bet and there are plenty of variants. Also Hungarian Hot Wax, Jalapenos, Serrano, Tabasco, Thai Chili.

Do you like hot peppers? Rocoto, Fatali.

Do you like superlatives? Carolina Reapers are the current world record holders when it comes to heat. Aji Charapita peppers are the most expensive.

Do you like cool, unusual peppers? Peruvian Purple gets dark purple leaves and fruit, Scotch Bonnet Orange has a great color and shape, Aji Pineapple are brightly yellow and taste a bit like, well pineapple.

Do you like Habanero Flavor but can't take much heat? NuMex Suave Orange/Red, Habanero El Remo.

I could go on. How about you tell us what you like, or hunt for stuff online. There are thousands of pepper varieties out there.
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>>1044817
No to both.
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>>1044812
I've had in my strawberry pot when I overwatered, isn't it some kind of fungus?
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I grew the 3 sister and this doesn't look like bean and squash usually shorter, any idea what is this plant in the middle? The sterm is as thick as the corn and doesn't look like any weed around me.
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>>1045103
Pokeweed. Some people eat it, but you have to prepare the shit out of it and it stinks up the entire house.
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>>1045104
It is also past the eating stage and is now too poisonous to be eating, even though it is still green..
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7 pounds of potatoes already. The tops on 2 small mounds finally died off. They were the oldest. Projection based on that small sample is 126 pounds of purple majesty potatoes. Not bad considering I only had 10 tiny seed potatoes starting out a couple years ago.

I should be able to replant and have another crop this season, hopefully.
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>>1045104
Seriously? All this time I thought it was something more useful since it have such a thick stem.
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>>1045255
Nope, just poorfag food.
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>>1045255
You can eat it when it is young if you follow procedure (google) and use the ripe berries as a dye (google).
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>>1045202


I was cheeky today and harvested a small main crop potato that was poking out the top of the soil and cooked it.
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>wake up
>it's drizzling

stop it I don't want mildew again
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>>1045318
>no rain for a while, decide to water the garden yesterday
>rains a couple hours after I finish
>now hearing thunder again
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>>1045318
I wonder if there are any companion plants with domatia that would house beneficial fungivorous mites. I know that the places where I used mirror bush mulch had absolutely no negative fungus whatsoever, but the rest of my garden was hit pretty hard by mildew and a spot of rust.
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>>1045270
>>1045202
>tfw must wait 2 weeks for curing the potatoes before eating so they have best flavor and can be put into long term storage

They are so bland fresh when compared to cured potatoes.
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the pumpkin are getting flowers n the corn is showing it's little pollen stalks.
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Killed 7 squash beetles this morning. Scraped off several dozen eggs. Saw a lone soldier bug, lazy fucker. Hopefully my placement of peppers inside my squash section deters the incoming squash bugs. Above them I have a stand of sweet yellow clover brimming with parasitic wasps every day, and below them is a sheet mulched area utilizing cardboard, which paper wasps are loving. I feel like some sort of general plotting trench warfare tactics against these little bastards.
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>>1041519
>>1041521
It begins!
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>>1045498
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>>1045503
Oh if it goes like last year (pic), I won't even have to be that patient, daily visible growth especially in the beginning
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>>1043291
Is roundup safe for my doggo
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I bought a new plant and dont even know what it is.
Identify pls?
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>>1045543
>Is poison safe for my dog?
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>>1045610
looks like purple potato vine, they're ornamental.
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>>1045625
thats it thanks dud
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>>1045493
I saw a vine borer moth, on my vines while on the lawn mower today. I flipped my shit and hunted that fucker down for like ten minutes and squished it.
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>>1045493
You can also make traps for the adult squash bugs. Just put a board on the ground so that it is raised off the ground about a pencil's thickness. The adult squash bug will hide there. All you do is come along, flip the boards and squish them once a day.
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>>1045543

Is your dog Roundup Ready®?
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There are a shitton of these goldenrod soldier beetles having an orgy in my bush.

Their larvae eat cucumber beetles, so I am excited to see them around.

Is this picture OK for a blue board?
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First!!
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Anyone know what causes this to corn?
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Does this look like enough lights for these hydroponic strawberries? How do I tell how much light I need?
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>>1045828
if they aint reaching i think youll be ok?
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How do I grow strawberries? Seeds aren't sprouting... have some of them in cotton, some of them in soil and some of them in gel, none have sprouted.
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>>1045871
Soil temps need to be between 10-20 C (50-70 F) for strawberries to successfully germinate, so a heat mat will help if it's cold where you are.
How are you growing them? Seedling flats, pots, or in ground?

Also, there's another method you can try: Buy one plant and layer all the runners like pic related, then once they take good roots you can transplant the babby plants and you'll have loads of berries.
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>>1045871
You need to use a lemon juice acid bath. I'm not sure the length of time required. You can dilute the juice with water to increase the time required and make it a bit easier to handle. Pure juice it probably too acidic to let you do things fast enough. I'd cut it half and half with water then have a few batches with different times. 10 mins 30 mins 60 mins. But, make sure to research "strawberry acid bath germination".
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Lads, i just did a precipitation test and pH test on my soil and results show that it's on the sandy side of being clay loam and is sitting at 6.0 when hydrated with tap water; so things aren't too bad.

How do I test for nutrient levels at home? I have a feeling my soil has plenty of Nitrogen but not much else of anything.
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>>1045920
Sounds like you have great soil for raspberries/blueberries/blackberries.
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>>1045925
That's a thought, I have seen berry canes for sale so maybe next winter I'll clear some room for them and trellis them up.
Out of gooseberry, raspberry and blackberry I'd probably shoot for one of each; how fussy are raspberries to grow?
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>>1045912
Yeah it's warm where I live. I have the seeds in pots at 6mm depth and they have yet to germinate and they've been like that for a month.

>>1045916
I'll look into that, thanks.
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>>1045201
southern boseefus here. this anon is correct. catch it young then take the leaves and boil it fresh water 3x. Remember to discard all the water and new water into the pot.

After that , saute with butter and garlic and optional pork.
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>>1045930
Raspberries are so non-fussy they are considered a weed, they will proliferate like wildfire in your soil. You can always buy reds at the market, so I would recommend the wild blacks (rubus occidentalis), as they are a true wild treat that you can never buy at any store.
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Is this knife meme or legit? I don't want to carry many tools.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0007WFG2I
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Can overwatering cause limpness? I noticed today a couple of my plants seemed droopy, and it's been raining a LOT the last couple of days.
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>>1045948
Sounds really good, it can be difficult to buy good blackberry bushes here as they seem to want to peddle the thornless types that I hear aren't very good fruitwise.

Do you mean a truly wild blackberry bush? If so, how would i go about propagating from it?

>>1045961
A lot of people that plant bulbs seem to love those knives, apart from that i guess they'd be alright for digging weeds by hand and making small furrows and other more delicate work.

>>1046011
Overwatering will generally cause yellowing at the ends of leaves, as well as the weather being a bit too hot or cold for the plants. If it gets warmer and the plants perk back up you'll probably have a better idea of what's going on.
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>>1043291
look for ideas on low matience food stuffs i can grow in a small garden patch
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>>1046083

Herbs .
Hanging basket tomatoes .
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>>1046085
>>1046083
What season is it where you are anon?
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>>1046106

Summer just started.
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Shallots are almost ready boys.
Who else is counting down the days?
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>>1045815
Didn't I >>1036852 told you >>1036897 so >>1036918 ?

Cheers man.
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>>1046111
If it's summer, here's a list of veg you could grow:
Bush and runner/pole Beans
Beetroot
Carrots
Cucumber
Eggplant
Lettuce
Melon
Peppers
Radish
Squash
Silverbeet
Spinach
Sweet Corn
Tomato

Of course,this is for my zone and your list might be a bit different; check out this site for a zone specific planting guide that'll help a good bit:

http://www.gardenate.com/?zone=111
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>>1045815
Is that your Bolivian rainbow?
Pic is one of my Chinese 5 color (or Bolivian rainbow, or Numex twilight, I still don't know)
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>>1044242
>tfw now need to eat zucchini every day in order to keep up with the supply.

Last year I sliced them up and tossed them in a bag of flower then put that in the freezer for winter use. It turned out much better than expected. Though, sometimes too much flour sticks to the sides that needs shaved off before cooking.

This year I think I'll dehydrate some and grind them for soup powder. That'll go great for trail stuff too.
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>>1046155
zucchini pickles are easy to make and you don't need to can them, unless you have a real massive amount that you can't eat of give away fast enough.
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>>1046175
>tfw can't stand pickled stuff
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>>1046175
>>1046179
>>1046155
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>>1046179
they're sweet pickles, bread and butter chips
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>>1046020
black raspberries and blackberries are different plants. I don't know much about blackberries, but black raspberries are worth it - you can just "acquire" some bushes from a nearby ravine or forest. They will propagate by sending out underground suckers and by tip-rooting.
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>>1043384
Grow well, little pepper!
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>>1044062
Congrats. Compostin is the shit, mah nigga.
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First time growing corn, what is this alien looking thing?
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>>1046257
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>>1046257
Aerial roots. Just hoe up a small mound of soil around them. That will help sturdy up the plant too.

>>1046186
They'd make a good item for trade at least.
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>>1043384
Grow well, little pepper!
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>>1046151
No, it's the Numex Twilight.
Pic is Bolivian Rainbow, it just opened its first flower. Yours looks super cute!

>>1046133
You did indeed anon, you did indeed. Thank you for encouraging this noob <3
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>>1046260
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>everyone's peppers are bigger then yours.

Something's munching them. Whatever it is has completely eaten my Marigolds leafs.
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>>1046324
And one month ago
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>>1046324
How old are theynow?
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>>1046324
Don't weed young plants. The cover provided from the weeds around them help hide them and provide interference for pests. What you have are oasis and homing beacons for pests right now. Isopods, beetles, and slugs are a prime problem for such an environment. Use cups around the bases of the plants and screens over their tops until they are large enough to fend for themselves or need pollination. Once plants are large enough, just mulch down the weeds. FYI, marigolds are great companion plants to be used as a trap plant for some pests.
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>>1046116
mine will probably turn out to be shit. It was my first year doing them and they didn't look too great, we'll see
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>>1046324
all my in-ground peppers look like shit, actually i topped a couple while waiting to transplant and the fucking cuttings look healthier. im starting to see small growth now so its all good, im happy so long as they're trying

finally handled re-doing the compost pile, put the muskmelon trellis up, and drip irrigation 100% done. not much on the plant side of things aside from the 4 o clocks starting to bloom, hopefully i remember to take some updated pics for the thread

btw if i could have any super power id pick "generate infinite perlite"
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SUNDAY UPDATE: Monday Edition

Here's a progression pic. Though, the wasp hotel bed photo, on the left, was on May 2nd when something was finally planted in it.
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>>1046399
The yellow zucchini for seed is about 2 feet long now. The 2 watermelons seem to have stopped growing at pathetically small sizes. No sign of any new watermelons anywhere. Everything else is doing fine and the first tomato of the season is ripening!
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>>1046401
Here's some garden bros. The wasp patrol is doing really well. Paper wasps and parasitic wasp have been devastating the brassica pest caterpillars. The clay garden is finally getting mulched down good and proper. The pumpkin hill is continuing to eat the yard.
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>>1046402
Here's pics from the other end of the rows.
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>>1045498
As promised, daily growth!
(There's a couple more, just showing the biggest one again)
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>>1046415
Also, update on peppers >>1042149
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>>1046418
Whoops, meant to reference >>1041335
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>>1046418
Also the purple potatoes from >>1041529
Not much above-ground growth any more as it's been dry and they're starting to yellow from the bottom so they should be ready in a few weeks, curious how those will turn out
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>>1046424
And yes, this drought sucks, muh poor lawn. There finally seems to be some rain incoming the next few days
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>>1046415
>>1046418
>>1046424
>>1046404
Lookin' good bruh
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>>1046431
This neighbourhood is so German it almost hurts.
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>>1046474
Looks like an average suburb to me.
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Anyone here garden in Southern California? Curious about what grows here - I've heard that you can grow a lot of stuff year-round here because our weather is pretty constant throughout the year.
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So this is definitely too close together for corn.
What now? I have to uproot them or cut them orr can I move them?
How many should I leave in the row?
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I hate that whenever I ctrl+f this general, I always see the homeless general first. Why does everything need to be a general nowadays?
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>>1046535
No, that is too far apart for corn. Corn needs to be close together and planted in squares. It can be in rows but those need to form a square block. Otherwise, you'll end up needing to use a feather duster to hand pollinate.

>>1046569
crtl+f "growmen"

>Why does everything need to be a general nowadays?

It keeps duplicate threads to a minimum. It is shitty when literally half the board is 3-5 subjects of duplicate threads.
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Found this asshole on one of my potted plants.

Gonna let him be, cuz it's hard work being a 'pillar. My plants can take it.

It's a fifth (and final) instar of the monarch butterfly. Hopefully I'll get to see it pupate and emerge.
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>>1046636

Found what I assume to be his coat in the lawn nearby
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>>1046636
>>1046637

Not what I really had envisioned for this plant
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>>1046639
Caterpillars are just butterflies who haven't learned how to fly yet.
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>>1046637
does not look like a monarch chrysalis
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Perhaps y'all will be able to answer my question.

I've got a bunch of tomatoes and peppers in pots on the back porch.

The plants in the standard black pots are doing great, nice and bushy, strong growth.

The plants in the "self watering pots" have barely grown at all, and seem to be dying in some cases.

Same soil mix, same plants. The only thing I can think of is that the "self watering pots" are not draining at all, and the bottoms are getting waterlogged.

It's probably too late to save them, but I wonder if I can just pull the reservoirs off the bottom for the future.
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>>1046688
Yeah, those self watering pots are waterlogging your plants. Remove the bottom or repot them asap.
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>>1046693
Do you think it's probably too late for those plants?

I might just drill some holes in the bottoms for next year. Typical. The pots I find in the shed do the best, the ones I buy at home depot kill the plants.
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>>1046704
They should recover and be fine. It isn't too late for Zone 5 and warmer at least.
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>>1046706
Dang, I'm in 4A.

I guess I'll just pull 'em off and hope for the best.
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I love indeterminate tomatoes.

they just keeps getting bigger and growing faster.
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i tried to grow winter squashes last summer , just got 4 or 5 and it bummed me out a little.

since i'm poor i should focus my free time on ways to make cash instead of putzing in my yard. even if i was mad successful i feel i waste more time than it's worth. it's relaxing tho and low stress = longer life.

i'm not too sure the soil that was dumped in my yard to level out the terrain is safe, i mean i have no idea where they got it and what happened over the years on top of it and i found some plastic junk in it like a garden edging, fucking plastic bottles etc ... i hear sunflowers are good at sucking the toxic shit out of soil so i will grow as much of em as i can.

one thing that seem to be doing ok are my new nut trees.

i got some thai peppers in there, lots of em. hope they will get big and produce. i can always transplant them inside, did it before and it worked fine. gave cilantro a shot again this year... i don't remember ever being satisfied with it ... probably the last time i give it a try.
its not too late to start some squashes no wait it probably is. no idea what else i could try. something rare and expensive... will have to google around.
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>>1045961
It is just a narrow trowel.
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>>1046737
Tomatoes, Peppers and salad greens are the among the most cost efficient garden crops simply because:
>Storebought tomatoes cannot compare
>Peppers are expensive
>Salad greens that aren't green or red cabbage are expensive and perish quickly
In the end, grow what makes you happy. In regards to money, if you have capital and an analytical mid I recommend trading stock options.
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>>1046714
I have family in zone 4. They put in their gardens like last week. Here in Zone 5, July 4th is the last date for planting tomatoes.
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>>1046737
If you have time to shitpost on 4chan, you have time to garden.

Make your own soil. Learn to make compost and make soil from that. If there's a horse barn in the area, go offer to muck stalls for manure.
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>>1046300
Thanks, your bolivian rainbow is very nice too. I really like these purple flowers.
I'll be interested to know what they taste like, good luck for the fruits
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Sorry for the shitty picture.

So a co-worker and I are trying to identify these chilies. She brings them into work every now and then and I've started growing them myself. They're hot as hell, up there with habanero if not hotter in my opinion. We think they're a variety of vietnamese or thai chilies but are looking for the exact species name. Post another angle, and then a picture of the plant we're thinking of which is only named "mystery devil pepper".
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>>1046759
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>>1046760
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I'm planning on growing a fuck ton of watermelons this year (24).

They're looking oretty good so far but I think there's some rot in my pumpkin plant's leaves.

Pic related is my biggest melon plot
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>>1046788
I like your irrigation canals.
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>>1046796
Thanks a lot anon I really appreciate that!

Took me a while to dig them out and my back still aches.
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When are shallots ready to harvest?
I have a deep hunger for them?

The leaves are starting to yellow.
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>>1043384
Grow well, little pepper!
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>>1044787
ARUGULA LAWN
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What are some Vegetable that are good for pickling? I am growing corn, carrot,beet(most are dying from fungi), and eggplant. I'm also seedling brussel Sprout, pepper and snow pea.
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>>1046820

Onions and shallots.
cabbage is pretty good when pickled.
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>>1046820
Cucamelon.
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>>1046809
when you don't see a single green leaf left I guess
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3 months old habanero, already pinched out a while ago, now should I pinch out the stems another time ? There are so many
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>>1046920
How about you stop fussing with it and hose off all those aphids.
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I think I finally came up with a workable solution for my aquaponics drainage problem after 4 fucking months. I accidentally screwed up my veggies, though.
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>>1046939

These are looking good, though.
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Temp dropped almost 15°C in 2 days, poor beppers
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My indoors fruit plants are a little bit leggy, I'd like to take them outside for a bit.

How can I protect them from insects and shit while on their short visit to the outdoors?
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>>1046637
that aint his
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Dfw anon here. Update on my watermelons.

Here is the whole plant. One big melon and one developing one.bope for more female flowers.
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And a closeup.
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>>1047056
>>1047057
Are you form Australia?
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>>1047057
>tfw no melons to finger
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>>1047063
really puts the "tight meller" in "sleep right meller" innit
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What is going on? They were all fine yesterday and now nearly every bunch on the vine looks like this
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>>1047173
Black rot fungus, due to too much moisture from rain or foliar watering. This happens to all my grapes every year because I live in a shitty temperate rainforest.
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>>1047086
SLeep tight meller
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>>1044812
Its a fungus or slime mold. You let the soil get too waterlogged and its eating the organic material.
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>>1047057
I also have some dark opal basil... Its supposed to be all purple... Why is it greenwashed?
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>>1047209
And then theres the eggplant. Heres the older one.
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>>1047218
And the younger one
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Got a little melon set.
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>>1045961
Gardener here. I use a hunting knife in the garden, I've been tempted to get something like that. I'll probably cut up a piece of grader blade hardfacing (hardox) and make something more abrasion resistant for what I do though. A sharp knife in the ground is such an incredible pleasure when weeding. Planting saplings is unreal, too. Just cut out a plug of the right size and you're done. No issues with trying to dig through roots or clay, just cut it out.
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Heres my purple passion tastefully encircling a pillar.
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>>1047181
Holy shit, I thought I was doing the plant a favor by watering it often.
Well fuck me, I ruined an entire fucking batch of grapes for the year.

Well I learned my lesson, if it was growing fine without me watering it the past 20 years, it didn't need me to water it this year.

The vine isn't ruined forever is it? I didn't kill it right? This thing has been around longer than I have, please don't tell me I killed it.

I took this picture of it a couple days ago. It was all nice and green then.
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>>1047342

It's dead, Jim.
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>>1047344
:(
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>>1047342
Black rot is only a fruit problem. No worries.
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>tfw sudden super cool rainy weather in the end of June
>lose 10-15lbs of onions in a single day due to rot
>need to pull all the onions even though it is a bit too early for several

That bed doesn't have enough good soil in it. The clay under it is cause all manner of water logging issues. I have my work cut out for me. If the tops last until tomorrow, I'll freeze some and dehydrate as many as possible.

This wheel barrow is completely packed and that's 1 bed of onions. I'm dehydrating a batch of stems as a test. My house smells like a soup kitchen.
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>>1047412
>>tfw sudden super cool rainy weather in the end of June

Same in the UK.
Im worried for my shallots
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>>1047435
I have other beds of onions at least, but that one had the oldest, largest, and most sunshine to let them get huge. If the soil drains well enough, your shallots will be fine.
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>>1046940
MY dream is to grow some black krim, roma and KY varieties this spring, but since i'm a bit lazy I might end up with mostly KY since they're self supporting.
Are you going to train the cherry tomatoes anon? I know most of the cherry types are determinate and don't need it, but layering or growing upside down would be pretty interesting and a fun challenge.

>>1047034
Are they seedlings? If so, you have an old aquarium you can put them in there and drape some light shadecloth over the top instead of the glass lid.

>>1047056
That's a QT melon anon, what variety of meller is it? I like the fabric support, pantyhose are the traditional way to tie them when trellised or little "meller parachutes"

>>1047235
A medium size, bird's beak style knife would serve really well in the garden i think.
Not trying to meme you, but mora has a linoleum knife that'd be like a mini scythe but not too curved for cutting out weeds and grafting work.

>>1047412
What's your soil composition like? Pic related is actually a pretty useful test to check what your soil type is, I'll post the soil triangle as well.
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>>1047527
Here's the soil triangle I was talking about, you can also test pH very vaguely by adding water and baking soda or neat vinegar; which will give you an idea if your soil is acidic or alkaline respectively.

This said, pH strips aren't expensive either and pool shops and lab/medical supply stores will have them.
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>>1047235
I can't imagine soil is compatible with a blade staying sharp... Consider a horihori if you want to cut roots.
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>>1047527

Here's a pic from a week or two ago. Plan is to have the tomatoes grow up the trellis, over the top, and over the other side.
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>>1047527
>>1047528

Also, good info. Homegrown needs more infographics.
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>>1047554
That's actually a pretty good idea anon, it looks like it'll provide protection against grazing animals eating your termaters too!

>>1047556
I agree, they're a good way to put across condensed info in a way that's easily accessible.
Here's a couple of composting infographics, a good starting guide, I wouldn't turn the pile though, Instead I'd use alternate layers of pea straw and green cuttings and elevate the whole mess onto a pallet or mesh so that it can get air circulation under the pile.

If you have a pile that's going anaerobic or is too soggy and dense, a rebar and sledgehammer are great for knocking air holes in the pile also in my experience.
An underrated and awesome compost pile starter is spent beer brewing malt that's still warm from the kettle, it's very aggressive as a starter and is really easily available in good amounts if you cosy up to a local micro brewer.
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>>1047564
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>>1047527
>What's your soil composition like?

Read the post again.
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>>1047564

Just got home from work, the sun is coming up, and my plants are looking beautiful.
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>>1047582
I read it anon, what's the good soil like and how deep is it before it hits the clay? Trench vermicomposting might be a helpful long term solution or an in ground worm farm.

I had a similar problem with terrible clay soil, but i took the backbreaking route of digging down half a metre and sifting all of the soil through a coarse seive before adding loam and aged compost and manure.
The process helped a fair bit, but since then I've effectively used strategies like using deep rooting and aggressive crops like sunflower to break clays, attracting worms and benefical soil critters and growing plants in built up mounds like you would in a "no dig" garden.
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>>1047586
Lookin good anon, i dig the diy squat rack in the background too!
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>>1047601
I'm >>1046399

Two beds have very little soil in them still. Like 2-4 inches. That one has the least amount. Last year, it had more fluff to it because there was more organic matter that had not composted down. Next year it will have a lot of new soil added. The clay is so dense that not much even goes into it. The sunflower in that row actually fell over because its roots are only in the good soil layer. I had to stake it.

Pumpkin hill in >>1046402 (bottom left photo) is actually a waist high compost pile of yard waste, chicken manure, horse manure, and kitchen waste. It will be ready next year for adding to all the raised beds that need soil. Though, I'll be mixing in several truck loads of course sand. I may just order 10 tons and have a dump truck deliver it. That saves on time and fuel.

When I was weeding out the compost hill, just before planting, 100s of huge worms where going all over the place. There was also 1,000s of isopods everywhere I looked. There's also a huge bumble bee nest in one end where there's mostly just straw-like yard waste. So, the entire place is buzzing with bumble bees.
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>>1043291
rate my fucking pond you plant niggers
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>>1047799
>not hiding wiring and tubing
>abrasive comment
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>>1047228
Neat pots
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>>1047812
well the tube and the wire are of the pump that I am setting up right now, when I finish it you won't be able to see it
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>>1047228
sleep tight meller
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Can I use bamboo leaf as mulch? I look around and it seem it kill the soil or something?
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How can I stop the earwigs from eating my pepper leaves?
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>>1047900
Sluggo plus
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>>1047312
im actually propagating my bros gf's, because she let it get super long and shitty

can you prune these things to keep em more bushy and upright?
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At a lot of stores, the only pots I see are the terra cotta ones with just a single hole in the bottom, about the diameter of a finger.
Do these provide enough drainage to grow a plant directly inside them, or do I need to get pots with multiple holes in the bottom?
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>>1047408
So I'm trying to prune it now, anyone know how to prune a grapevine?
Should I cut every leaf with spots like these individually, or just get rid of that whole vine?
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>>1047867
It isn't like walnut. It is like pine. They make their own mulch and cover the ground really well, but neither harm the soil. Neither mess with the pH more than any other organic compost.

>>1047930
Just google, "how to prune grapes." The general methods actually help prevent black rot.
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>>1047930
>>1047935
They all say to do the pruning in fall or winter.
So maybe I should just leave it till then.
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Anyone know what this shit is? It pops up everywhere and it's the only thing I don't see when I search florida weeds. My gut is telling me it's some kind of solanum
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I get such a raging hardon for this stuff but don't garden yet. Working to buy a house but my friend's family has an organic farm and he hooks me up with awesome produce: 20 types of peppers, dozen berries, snap peas, kale, carrots, squash, tomatoes...Can't wait to have my own garden. My yard now with all California natives. Apologize in advance if image is aus mode.
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Test
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Can anyone help me indentify this weed? It's growing en masse in this yard I got control of this spring.

At first I thought it was tomato plants, but as they grew I could see the leaves don't look right and they don't smell like tomato plants.

1/2
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>>1048037
2/2

Zone 7A, East Coast.
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>>1048037
>>1047949

Looks like some variety of beggar ticks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bidens
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>>1048072
Wow I'm a dumbass...I guess I've never really seen a bidens alba without the white flower before

Thanks brah
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>>1043291
never done much lawn care outside of mowing it and weeding now and then, havnt weeded in a long time and now most of my lawn is weeds that i dont want my dogs eating. can anybody throw some methods my way for fixing up my backyard? would weed killer do the trick alone, would it kill the grass, and if it did would it ruin soil?
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>>1048123
Just get a bottle of glyphosate and go to town my dude
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>>1047915
This is enough if you put some rocks or clay pebbles at the bottom of the pot (3-5cm)
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>>1047611
Clover, buckwheat, alfalfa, fava beans and BQ mulch come to mind as aggressive cover crops that may help break the clay by sending taproots down and breaking clay as well as scavenging nutrients from lower in the soil.

It'd be hard digging and pickaxe work, but if you have those worms like you say then trench composting might serve you very well.
Sand and organic matter like the compost will help too if you break the clay and incorporate them, just watch that the sand is coarse and not full of silt.
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>>1046797
Happy to oblige. I would line those with any stones you find if I were you, and maybe line them with sand to help keep weeds down that they don't choke the channels.
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>>1048037
>>1048072
We call them, "Devil's Darning Needles." Not the "Clematis virginiana" one. The bidens kind we have only had two prongs (needles) on the seed pod. I know someone who smoked it once thinking it was weed. Fucked him up for a few days. Though, it may have been another plant of some kind since he's not all that good with plants in that manner obviously. Bidens are edible, fyi. Just not very palatable.

I do the same with not remembering it right away due to the young stuff never having the beggar's ticks on them. In the fall, I notice them like a hawk because of how annoying they are.

>>1047949
Reminds me of elderberry, but the pic is too blurry.
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>>1047938
>>1047930
>Grapes (Horticulture) - G. Creasy, L. Creasy (2009)(BBS)
>ISBN-10: 1845934016

https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6680750/Grapes_(Crop_Production_Science_in_Horticulture)_BBS_

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:fa87e0c3a324908490b4b63660383731211179c3&dn=Grapes+%28Crop+Production+Science+in+Horticulture%29%7BBBS%7D&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fzer0day.ch%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969

I'm not sure of the health of that torrent (2 seeds), but there's a good section on pruning.
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>>1048149
I don't use the clay though. I use raised beds over top of it. They are trench composting unto themselves. Next season will be the first time in a few years I'll be adding a lot of new soil to that bed.
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I got a free pot with plant, I thought it was deas until I water it a bit, any idea what kind of plant it is.
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My peppers are growing faster than I anticipated.
What are the rules on when/why/how to snib peppers?
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>>1048304

Atleast once.
I would say no more then 3 times.
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im growing some fugging potatoes
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>>1048456
mine should be about done, most plants are dead but some just won't give up
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>>1048296
Mint maybe? Try taking a leaf and rolling it in your fingers to tell
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>>1048518
Not mint. Once you've seen the leaf arrangement of one mint you start seeing it everywhere.
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BEHOLD!

The first ripe tomato of the season in my area.
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>>1048550
RIPE in peace 'mater
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Look at this giant motherfucker happily munching on this pepper

To the chiggens it goes
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>>1048555
I'm going to have fun this year with those. I have 100 tomato plants. I tried using a black light flashlight to find the caterpillars on the brassica plants, but they don't change color for that. I'll try it with the hornworms and report back whenever they appear here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIJUsGcA4R4
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Any of you ever grown saffron before?
Im thinking about panting a small patch just so i can own some of the most expensive herb (herb or spice?) in the world.
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>>1044289
>>1044391
5 days later. This beast likes to fucking GO
>Caramel BULK Yolo-kia
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>>1048558
It's finicky as hell from what I understand. If it were sustainable to grow, it probably wouldn't be as expensive. Of course, it could also just be the people who grow it dicking everyone over just because they can.
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>>1048558
I did, a few bulbs in a pot. In my experience you've got to separate the bulbs the year next to planting or else they almost don't produce anything
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>>1047412
This has been going slow, but far better than expected for processing the green onion tops. The dehydrator and grain mill are performing exceptionally as always. I probably put too many diced green onion tops in the freezer...guess I need to cook more with them and trade some of them. The frozen ones are great in potato soup. The dehydrated stuff will be great for making soup mixes for the trail.
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How do you guys deal with leaf footed bug nymphs?
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shit is getting out of hand
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>>1048585
time to start lashing together some tripods
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>>1048587
I've been using dead branches, but I'm running out of them
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>>1048591
Got any string? Make a structure that looks like a swingset frame out of branches/pole saplings. Lash a string above each plant. Loosely tie the plants to the string. Use a tie under a leaf, not a truss. Don't tie it tight around the plant.
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>>1048566
That sure was a sight to see. You've got a nice setup going on there.
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>>1048561
Well this snibbed pepper took our memeing freaking serious.
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the vines have reached the time and started to spread across
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>>1048687
Turning your backyard into a jungle?
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>>1048321
All I need to do is cut the top off, right? Is there a minimum height/leaf number I should wait for?
Is there any reason not to snib a pepper sprout?
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>>1048824
Some claim that 'letting nature run its course' is better, and if you plan to keep the same plant for several years, it won't make a difference in the end.
I'm growing for the first time, anons advised me to snib, and while I have no unsnibbed control plants, all my peppers are doing great and are super bushy from 2 snibs.
I cut em off when they had 6~8 leaves, and left only the bottom 2. Second snibbening again when those new sideshoots themselves had 6-8 leaves, but iirc I left 4 leaves on those.
For example: >>1043384 (You)
>>1044282 (You)
And pic related is 5 weeks difference, also snibbed it twice, and removed a few central leaves last week. In the first pic I had just moved it to that pot, but I had to move it to an even bigger pot because it outgrew that one pot in 2 weeks.
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>>1048693
Trying to, even got some passion fruit vine started. I'm going to have to try and come up with some way to keep them apart so I can overwinter them.
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Is this spider mite damage or something else?
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>>1048940
Use strings for them to climb up. Those can be taken down and curled up/wound up for moving.
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>>1048950
>tfw "spider mite damage" in google images is almost nothing but pics of pot plants

There should be webbing/silk in the area if it is spider mites. It looks like some of it is surface grazing. I don't really see any insects visible in that blurry image, but check the newer leaves too.
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you jelly?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05ufVj9P8Us
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Mfw
I killed out
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oh, suns up time to check the garden, some of the pumpkin flowers have closed, which means there pollinated right? and the corns on it's on.
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>>1049114
If they are female flowers, they will only be open for a day. Regardless of they were pollinated or not, they will still close. If there were male flowers in bloom with the female flowers then they are most likely pollinated.

>>1048960
The paths are nice.

>all those squash plants so close

Oh boy.
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>>1049131
oh ok thx guy.

hope they got pollinated.
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>>1049139
If they start to swell then they got pollinated. If they don't swell and start to turn yellow then no.
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Dfw anon here. Update on watermelons.

New meller formed!
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How do I get rid of mushrooms in potted plants? Some quick research is suggesting scraping away the first couple inches of dirt but I feel like that wouldn't fix anything. Any way to fix it without completely replacing the soil?
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>>1049318
There's no need. They won't harm the plants and their mycelium help turn organic matter into nutrients that they use to trade sugars from your plants.
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>>1049323
Really? As I understood, the mycelium breaks down organic matter and the fruiting bodies use them, so wouldn't it actually waste nutrients?
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>>1049326
Google, "mycorrhizae". It is especially important where many plants are grouped together. They can then trade nutrients between plants, thereby helping plants that would otherwise not do nearly as well alone.
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>>1049318
Water less and it will disappear. They are not harmful to the plant (here it seems to be Leucocoprinus birnbaumii), they help to break down the soil in nutrients as >>1049323 said. These mushrooms are supposed to cause stomach pain if eaten, though they won't "leak" anything in the plants nearby which stay safe for consumption.

Though they usually are a symptom of a watering problem. Did you drill a hole at the bottom of the pot? Does your plant really need so much water?
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NEW THREAD: >>1049633
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NEW THREAD: >>1049633
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>>1049510
I try to inoculate my beds with edible fungi. Then if they fruit I can eat. Pearl oyster is also mycorrhizal.
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>>1049278
I have like a billion pumpkins coming on, but only like 2 watermelons. And, one watermelon plant fucking died due to unseasonable cold weather for 3 nights (45F) this past week, wtf.
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>>1048210
good ideas! Thanks Anon
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>>1046820
okra is great pickled, peppers too
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