*blocks your path*

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>>1023281
Dis

>>1023281
I'll beat the fuck outta that little faggot

>>1023281
I DON'T WANNA BUY ANY FUCKING SKOOMA FUCK OFF! *pulls bow*

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>doesnt realize whats on the end of my leash..

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>>1023439
mmm, it usually doesn't end well for the dogs

>>1023281
I will pet him and love him and call him george

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>tfw cougars have been extinct in my state for 100 years

>>1023281
Glocks the cat.
>reason for my G29

>>1023461
>he thinks a glock is gonna stop a cougar

O i am laffin

>>1023471
it could have a blank in it and stop a mountain lion.

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>>1023471

>>1023281

*Body slams it*

>>1023471

It's 10mm, which has been known to kill full grown brown bears.

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>>1023475

problem is they are ambush predators - if you can see one, it doesn't want to fuck with you. if the animal actually wanted to engage with you you'd likely be dead before you knew what was happening

>>1023281
>*blocks your path*
It's actually
*stalks you from behind for a while but then gives up and goes away, killing only 1 person per every 50 years in the united states on average*

>>1023475
how many wolves have you body-slammed this year so far?

>>1023458
Yeah that's what they said about Michigan for decades but now that there's photographic proof they claim they're recently returned.

>>1023281
*fleeing intensify*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PjqIAYT2M0

>>1023521
Ululululu
Gulugulugulu

>>1023544
It's entirely possible, but the DNR is retarded sometimes.
There were regular sightings and mauled dogs for like 15 years before they admitted they might possibly be kind of wrong a little.
The DNR thinks they're either escaped/released pets or are moving east from the Dakotas.

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>>1023539
Yooper here can confirm the DNR is full of shit

>>1023555
HIM BEEFY
Yeah anyway that's a deer in a Halloween costume.

>>1023439
Lol a cougar would fuck that thing up

I saw the ass end of a yearling cougar a few days ago running up a hill as I turned a corner on an ATV.

Was pretty cool.

>>1023439
>Your primary weapon is your head
Dogs are good for holding shit down so you can kill it, not fight predators that can rip your face off with a swipe

>>1023281
cute kitten would pet

>>1023530
young ones sometimes fuck it up. older ones don't fuck with humans to begin with. if you run or go fast you can trigger chase instinct tho.

>>1023538
>This is why cyclists are more common targets than hikers. They are more similar to deer when it comes to posture.
wrong it's the speed they trigger the predatory instinct. a cougar is more likely to attack you if you run away then if you stand your ground. prey runs away.

>>1023471
Glockzilla will.

>>1023281
*throws yarn*

>>1023560
It's win-win, though. The cougar killing the pit gives you time to run away and the dead pit means your kid doesn't get mauled to death.

>>1023544
Ohio is one of the only places you can own a cougar, could have been a pet

>>1023544
lolololol no.
>be St Louis native
>MDC: "cougars are extinct in Missouri"
>momma cougar and 2 cubs gets smeared 0n I255 in the suburbs during rush hour at like 8am on a Tuesday, broad daylight, in front of a traffic cam
>cops respond
>holy shit that's a cougar
>calls MDC
>"can't be a cougar, they're extinct"
>listen you little bitches I'm literally fucking holding it
>"it's a bobcat"
>since when did bobcats weigh 105lbs *after* getting smeared by a minivan?
>"it's a bobcat"
>cop sends pictures
>"yep it's a bobcat"
>makes the news, photos errywhere, VERY clearly a cougar
>"la la la la it's a bobcat, cougars are extinct in missouri lalalalala"
>Fed fish and game gets interested, asks if PD kept the body
>yep, wants to stick it to MDC
>DNA testing--holy shit this cougar's RFID tagged
>cougar's entire life story now known, tagged as a cub in western Kentucky 6 years prior
>"LALALALA BOBCAT LALALALA CANT HEAR YOU LALALALA COUGARS EXTINCT"
>MDC chief fired by governor

>>1023657
That's the same goddamn thing they did in Michigan.
"I seent a cougar I sware 2 gahd"
"Nah it was a deer. "

>>1023660
Missouri also did the same thing with feral pigs in the 90's, then again with Russian Blue boars in the early 2000's, asian carp in the Missouri River, fuck even bobcats in the 70's (which are now so prevalent archery hunters are asked to shoot them all on sight).

I swear to Christ our department of conservation is run by a bunch of contrarian asses. There's no way they could be that wrong consistently without doing it on purpose.

>>1023662
At this rate you'll have wolf packs running around in broad daylight .

>>1023660
Part of the reason they deny it is because people get their panties all in a bunch about mountain lions. "Oh it's going to kill my livestock/dog/children/chance at happiness/etc do something about it!"

Or they make wild claims like there are large black pumas wandering the woods.

>>1023769
But you're right, state fish and game can really have their heads shoved way far up their own asses.

>>1023544
Why the heck did you call the authorities because you saw a wild animal in the wild?

>>1023657
This is very common in many states where mountain lions have returned after previously being wiped out. Most or all of the New England states don't acknowledge that mountain lions have returned, despite tracks and scat evidence, and occasional sightings. This is mostly because the fish and game depts. would have a shitload of work to do create conservation/management plans, alter state endangered species lists, perform wildlife surveys, create public info releases, etc. Mountain lions are reclusive, and sightings are rare enough that it's not really a problem, but everyone knows that mountain lions are around, and that fish and game is intentionally denying it.

>>1023657
My neighbor shot and killed one and the DNR said it was a bobcat. He now has a stuffed lion which is cool.

>>1023755
That's kinda the idea

>>1023281
*calls you a nice kitty*
*pets you on the head*

>>1023803
>Why the heck did you call the authorities because you saw a wild animal in the wild?

Because in states where the DNR actually does their job, they like to hear about reclusive/rare/endangered/extinct animals and where they were spotted.

>>1023475
You should listen to the Lebatard Show when they have Ron McGill on. Callers always ask him questions like this. Most people say that animals are better built to kill than humans and a 100lb predator would beat a human twice its weight easily. But the zookeeper often favors the humans as long as it isn't a suprise attack from behind. The human brain is a powerful defense mechanism.

>people wonder why state DNR ignores cougar sightings
>State DNR funded a bunch by outdoor rec in state parks
>people will stop camping if muh mountain lions

>>1024012
if the predator is twice your weight you are seriously fucked. if under your weight it's baby mode. unless we are talking about wolverines. there is no way to come out okay from that.

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Spotted one in Marin County CA just hanging out at dusk a few years ago. Can't imagine how many have seen me.

>>1023555
Oh shit. How far up the UP was this?

>>1023657
>>1023660
>>1023803
>>1023879
DNR confirmed for modern version of UFO coverup stories

>>1023660
Shit. There's been so much big cat activity in the northern lower.
>A client of mine is big time horseman. His friend near Cadillac friend lost a horse to animal. Photos reveal the killer sure wasn't no coyote
In b4chucacabra
>My wife said "WTF is that?" driving US31 at night. It was about the size of a big dog, fast, catlike and a long tail.
>The hardware store in Lovells has a picture of a deer carcass 15' up a white pine. Can verify it wasn't a fraternity prank.
>I've seen cougar tracks near Interlochen
Not bear. Front and back same. No claws, size of baseball.
>While burning one at Nolan's Cigar, a patron showed me poor cell phone photos of cougar in his backyard.
>The National Park at Glen Arbor has signs at trailhead says "watch your back, because the cats will get you".
DNR can kiss my ass.

>>1023475

Mountain lions will occasionally drop into my town and casually hang out in the parks, picking off unleashed pets as they go.

The police had to shoot one last year and since then we haven't seen any more.

>>1023475
Like Mike Tyson said "everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth"

Or in this case gets eviscerated.

>>1023443
I wasn't ready for these feels

>>1023475
i see a gaping hole in your plan anon:
when cougars get into kill mode they get extreme tunnel vision and focus on the kill, they hardly feel any pain and could care less about being hurt. this is pretty well documented.

>>1023475
>convincing people online that your fantasy is real

fascinating

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nothin personnel, kid

>>1023281
I tell her I'm actually thirty-three, that always makes cougars back off.

>>1024119
no shit? I live in Marin and we are getting alot of encroachment problems. The Fairfax hills has a pack of coyotes that is just keep getting bigger and bolder. Now they are coming out in day time. bobcats too. I'm talking regular suburb houses now, not just the hills. what is kinda neat are the birds of prey eating all the rats. they just grab them and fly off.

The drought breaking hasn't helped as much as I thought it would.

>>1023281
if it blocks your path it's likely rabid or you surprised it. normally a cougar attack comes from behind, the sides, or above.

time to brandish my sharps, growl, look big, and fight like i'm earning my way to valhalla

>>1024852
i'm just saying they don't really feel pain like normal there have been instances when a man fought back and survived to tell the tale about how unrelenting the attack was and how completely the cougar ignored the pain and beating. they don't give a fuck best if you can avoid them seeing you as prey they are very careful and cautious until the fight starts.

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>>1023281
srsly come at me bro

>>1024486
Yep. I've seen deer carcasses up in trees near Briley and Brethren.
One was fresh and I decided I wasn't camping there.

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>>1023657
Checking in from the IL side of St. Louis. They're apparently over here now too. They can't really deny they're in MO anymore since someone hits one about once a year now.
You guys can look at this map to see where there have been sightings http://www.cougarnet.org/confirmations

>>1023471
A bullet is a bullet, if you can aim.

>>1023555
Many states refuse to believe they have cougars in the state to avoid making a conservation plan.

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>>1023475
Is this a new copypasta?

>>1025216
kek bureaucracy at it's finest. that is why the republic had to fall.

>>1024603

>>1025205
>they can't really deny they're in MO anymore
They're damn sure giving it their best effort.

*unzips dick*

>>1025205
that's a raccoon

>>1025133
I've almost crashed into a few coyotes while riding my MTB on the trails on Tam and China Camp. Sucks for people with outdoor cats. That pic I posted is at the top of 680 where it meets with Solstice, you probably know where that is if you are a local.

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>>1025216
This is it. I couldn't say it this succinctly so didn't posted my rant.
Thanks.
Have a rare.

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>>1024021
>Twice your weight
Dude, this is 4chan.

>>1025217
It is now.

>>1024021
The assholes in state government steal hunting and fishing $ to pay for non game animals and other wasteful programs so they probably have pet projects like minority outreach and enrichment that would suffer with cougar sitings

>>1023281
lmao big big kitty haha

>>1025817
Matt?

>>1023475
why do faggots like you exist?
why isn't nature enough for you to enjoy, without having to treat it as your adversary?

>>1024486
Michigan dogman

>>1023443
i stopped reading this book right near the end, i sure hope the dogs were okay and nothing tragic happened

>>1023281
I'd probably spend the time it mauled me to death ponder what a mountain lion was doing in the Dales.

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>>1023281
*eats you*

>>1023471
Yeah, the explosion would certainly scare it off.

>>1023281
*Pulls out Glock 31*

>>1023586
This. Evolutionarily, wolves --> dogs have allowed us to hunt much much more dangerous animals than a fucking cougar. The purpose of a dog is to distract and act as support, not kill the beast.

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>>1023281
piss myself perhaps the smell of urine will scare it off .

>>1023281
*unzips dick*

>>1026697
Gettin' redy for dat pussy amirite

>>1024880
psshhhhhh

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>>1023475
>Teleports behind you

"Heh… Not bad kid. You made me use 10% of my power…"

>>1025636
Saved it.

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>>1026768
>not having an anti-cougar claymore on the back of your pack

its like you want to get mauled

>>1023475
Start reading
>I'm 6 foot 5 an-
Stop reading

>>1023586
>verbally stating cougars are strong

open up your coat and yell

cougars are pussies

smack it with a fucking branch

>7 years xp as a park ranger
>never once see a mountain lion exhibit bravery
>aint scurred

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>>1023281

>>1026981
>just using a claymore
>unprepared for small unit tactics
>not wearing a suicide vest
Anyone who hikes without at LEAST a homemade bomb rigged to a deadman switch is asking to get mauled. Not only will you take out any bears/cougars in your immediate area but any survivors will lose moral and get PTSD and therefore will be less likely to engage humans in the future

>>1028047
thats a big doge

>>1028180
>loose morale, get ptsd
Ha! Jokes on you. The future of warfare is in the digital era, and soon robots programmed to kill will replaced the armed ground soldier. Robots feel no remorse, and care not for the sanctity of life.

Even robot cougars, are a threat.

If you reay want to be prepared, you'd better hook up the good 'ol orbital War-Sat Defense Grid, with strong intrusion detection protocols included in the central AI.

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Away with thee vile beast!

>>1028505
>Robots feel no remorse, and care not for the sanctity of life.
ptsd is not remorse nignog it's when estrogen levels rise during combat and you experience what it's like to be a woman. it ruins your life.

>>1026074
They were fine anon, they were fine. It was a very happy ending.

I came across two cougars about a month ago. Was by myself and thought I saw a deer about 30 yards away. Got a better look ans it was a full sized cougar walking along. Then about 30 seconds later another one crosses the path I'm on about 15 yards away from me. It never looked at me and didn't seem like it was spooked.

I on the other hand was fucking spooked. Didn't even have a pocket knife on me.

>>1029961
>15 yards away from me.

no way it didn't know you were there.

>>1029973
That's what I initially assumed too but I was completely still and it seemed to be focused on the other cat in front of it. If it did see me it didn't seem to care at all I was there.

>>1028433
for you

>>1023439
If a kangaroo can beat down a dog the hell do you think an actual predator is going to do to it?

>>1023281
*unholsters the .454 casull*
Heh, nothing personal cat.

>>1029980
big if true


What would happen if you startled a cougar? would it just run away like a housecat? or maul you?

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>>1023475

>I unironically want to fight a cougar
already lost

>>1025133
same in l.a. county.

before it was racoons at night, now its bobcats and coyotes. mountain lions are a common site in santa monica and malibu, and all over the angeles national forest

>/out/ is actually scared of an overgrown house cat
It's not a fucking tiger guys, unless you are a manlet a cougar probably poses less than 1% danger to you guys. Stop being a bunch of pussies, God damn.

>>1033032
a cougar up front is not much of a problem for a grown man. i mean sure it can tear you up bad but it's definitely doable. the problem is it's habit to jump on you from behind and go straight for your spinal cord with it's teeth. basically it can kill you before you know what happened. if it fails to do that you have pretty good chances.

>>1033305
You know how I know you've never been up close to a cougar in the wild?

>>1024486
Shit, I've seen deer hanging in trees in Paw Paw.

fuckin hit it wth a stick

>>1033399
You know how I know you nothing about cougars?

>>1033305
you're an idiot. the reason cougars aren't much of a problem for grown men is that they RARELY attack grown men, instead choosing to go for smaller prey. Seriously, if you're not a manlet, they aren't hunting you.

If one decides to kill you, you're done. From the front, the side, the back, spinal cord or no... you're done.

>>1026064
That's how people work. Where would we be now if everything wasn't an obstacle to conquer?

>>1030551
I don't think it would risk injury unless it was really hurting for food

>>1033552
In a 1 on 1, gladiator arena type match I would put my money on the 1 million ants

>>1033552
This is because big cats are actually really big pussies. Like I've been around "tamed" cougars and for the most part they are very timid and cautious, this is actually true of most predators since so many hunts end in failure and choosing prey that can wound them and reduce their hunting efficacy further is something they are programed to avoid. Not only do cougars rarely attack grown men, they rarely attack people in general. Often an unusual set of circumstances including the animals desensitization to humans and some sort of desperation (such as that caused by old age or territory encroachment) causes them to bother with people, though there is of course the rare opportunistic attack. Cougars are probably one of the least dangerous of the big cat family all in all, compare to say a tigers or even jaguars. Personally as a 186 cm male weighing 15 stone I don't really worry about cougars at all when I go /out/.

Now bears on the other hand I would worry about, especially the polar bears that occasionally wandered out of their range and into towns nearby where I lived back when I tried going /out/ up north. Those bastards are fucking fearless and will actively choose to predate humans. The more common brown bears we get at lower latitudes aren't as bad but they are still crazy SOBs who might decide to charge 100 meters in thirty seconds and maul you to death for looking at them the wrong way.

>>1023475
You know, statistically you actually have a decent shot at winning.
The majority of cougar attacks on humans are actually unsuccessful, I've heard people quote around 20% fatality and from what I'm finding on the internet its likely even lower.
The thing about cougars is that they're ambush hunters that have millions of years of evolution telling them how to punce on and kill deer and shit, but comparitively little information about people. And they're really risk-averse. Unless they're starving or cornered, they'll almost alway try to escape any encounter that turns into a fight. They can always come back in a few hours and see if you've bled to death or go find something else to eat, but if they get unlucky and get one of their legs broken trying to finish you off they're as good as dead.

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>>1023439
SMASHED
SLAMMED

Who's a pretty kitty?

>>1023657
Happens in Vermont too.

>>1033032
But I'm a manlet!

>>1033552
nah, there have been multiple instances where a man had a prolonged fight with a cougar man always "won".

>>1033822
I prefer Mr. Touchdown myself.

>>1024850
but then again, if >>1023475 is an experienced fighter he will know what kinds of pain to ignore (and be able to do it) and as a human he will experience an adrenaline rush that has similar effects to the cougar's fight mode

>>1034100
>2017
>Any toadline but Fizgig

>mfw Americans say Australia is a dangerous place with lots of things that will try to kill you
>mfw America has murder cats and BEARS SERIOUSLY BEARS ARE FUCKED HOW DO YOU GUYS CAMP WITH THAT SHIT OUT THERE

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>>1034546
Bears are bros.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI_f0buRi2c&t=13s
There's an episode of one of Anthony Bourdain's shows where he goes here and eats at a picnic table with the bears.
Also murder cats are cutie kitties and should be reminded of such at every chance.

>>1034546
You should probably look up how many bear fatalities there are in America. Hint: it's not many.

>>1034546
>from the land of the infamous murder-machine drop bears
>complains about mere grizzlies and blackies

>>1034546
unless youre really far from town most bears wont go fucking near you.

if you manage to surprise a mom and her cubs though you might be fucked.

most of the nasty wildlife died off long ago since moden human contact killed most of the untrammeled wanderers.

>>1034546
is it true you are sposed to curl up in a ball if a grizzly or brown bear chases you, and if its a black bear you go on a rampage and start windmilling

>>1028946

What really happened?

>unlikely to buy book
>still really want to know in some detail

Help me out?

>>1034846
if it's a mother grizzly then run the fuck away that is what the bear wants if you can't for some reason lay down flat cover your neck and don't move or even breathe.

if it's not a mother grizzly chances are it's a predatory attack. large male black bears are especially suspect. fight for your life, with everything you got.

>>1034846
Pretty much
Although the difference isn't technically what species, its the reason for the attack.
If they're attacking because they feel threatened or think you're threatening their cubs or something then playing dead is generally better than trying to fight it.
But if they're trying to eat you playing dead obviously won't work.
Also black bears are more skittish so acting scary is more likely to work than on a grizzly, because they know they don't really have anything to worry about unless you're also a grizzly, which you probably aren't


>>1034868
Running is generally a bad idea. Even if an encounter doesn't start predatory running can trigger a prey drive and turn it from "get out of my territory" to "get in my belly"
Keep facing it and back away, and avoid eye contact.
If the choice is fight or run obviously try running first though. The bear can probably outrun you but I'd wager most people's odds are better in a race than a fight.

The best defense is good situational awareness, backed up by a gun.

>>1034875
>Running is generally a bad idea. Even if an encounter doesn't start predatory running can trigger a prey drive and turn it from "get out of my territory" to "get in my belly"
that's not how momma bears work all they care about is the threat to be gone. if it runs all the better. they chase you 20 steps and get back to the cubs they won't leave them behind.

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>>1025111

Chuckled.

>>1033687
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_cougar_attacks_in_North_America

If this is accurate there hasn't been a fatal attack in North America since 2008. Seems like a lot of the victims are also children 14 and under.

>>1034546
Every animal species in North America combined kills fewer people a year combined than salties do in Australia.

Limit that just to the USA (including Alaska) and salties kill more people in 7 months than animals of all kinds do in a year in the US.

>>1023475
>no use in gouging the eyes

Except blinding it so it can't fuck you sideways with its claws and shit you moron. In a fight for your life always go for the eyes first. You're not fighting a fucking dolphin or a bat that can still easily detect you without eyes, blinding anything you fight instantly tips the scale massively

>>1035185
Why? They use their eyes, removing those removed a crucial sense of theirs.

>>1035188
>whiskers that sense blood flowing

This seems like bullshit. And of course it'll be pissed when you finger fuck it's eye sockets, but I'd rather try and injure it internally while it's blind rather than with it at full capacity.

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>>1023475
>I grew up around cats so I understand at least some level of their methodology
I also liked the bit about doing a kick to the gut of a midair cougar. You seem like a pretty cool guy. I would pay good money to watch you stomp wild animals.

Growing up in AZ I've seen a few mountain lions out and about, once on my friends property we found some cougar kittens up in a tree and gave them some pats. Looking back it was a really stupid decision. I grew up with dogs and hamsters, so I only understand their methodology. I wouldn't have stood a chance against a mountain lion.

>>1035199
You are the most wrong that anyone has ever been.

>>1035199
Fuck the nerve, I'll just jack hammer the lens to hell and back like I jack hammer a girl during foreplay. Nerve might be protected but if it's attached to a mashed eyeball it ain't doing shit

And I thought cats had whiskers for balance hence the videos of someone trimming one side of a cats whiskers and the cat proceeding to stumble around like it's drunk

>>1035188
>whiskers that sense your blood flowing.
where the fuck did you get that? whiskers simply provide touch sensory input.

>>1035286
In comic books maybe

>>1035295
try again

>>1035295
Helping it know where to bite =/= sensing the "blood vibrations"

Idiot

Also

>using tiger information when discussing cougars
>using seaworld.com as a source for land animals

>>1035303
you heart doesn't even beat a single time in the span a cougar or tiger jumps on you and bites you. you are making shit up that belongs in comic books.

>>1035303
No, it says nothing of blood vibrations. Said whiskers can detect increased warmth, softer skin, or anything else to help it know where to bite

I don't give a shit about being right or wrong to a perfect stranger, it just seems like some comic book shit and the information you provided neither proves nor disproves it

The green texting was just to give you shit

>>1035307
probably the tiger knows by instinct which part of the geometry to got for with a bite and the whiskers only aid it by touch to form a shape and more importantly distance in the tigers brain.

blood flow detection is most likely a load of bullcrap. at least i couldn't find anything on it. not that there is no trustworthy scientific source there is no source period.

>>1035327
I couldn't find anything either, dude was talking shit

Blood vibrations lol

>>1035345
Reading comprehension dude. This doesn't say the tiger senses it's preys blood vibrating. The blood spoken of is the tiger's

>>1035347
Dude, the source you keep citing says nothing of any blood but the tiger's. The tiger senses movement because it's whiskers have roots located in blood. When the whiskers get moved by touching something said movement is felt in the blood. This blood is the tiger's. Nothing is said of any other blood

>>1035348
indeed. also cats like to go for the spinal cord or throat they are not vampires.

>>1035394
It says nothing about these fucking blood vibrations dude. I'm not going to be mean and call you names. I'm confused where you got this idea from as nothing in the article linked talks about blood vibrating.

Also, there are two different people responding to you

>>1035425
>how does the tiger determine if it's whiskers are touching a tree or a living animal
preconceptions and the other senses

>>1035432
because you are making shit up. there is no scientific evidence that cats can detect blood flow with their whiskers. forget evidence, not even a scientific theory.

>>1035425
Other ways tigers can tell they are touching a living animal

Whiskers detect heat
whiskers detect small movements (why playing dead works)
other senses


You have to be trolling at this point though. You're trying to tell me it's acute enough to be able to differentiate tigers from other animals? Come on dude, blood vibrations already is unbelievable

>>1035443
>whiskers move forward and encircle the neck

Seems like even bigger bullshit

>>1035443
>After the tiger’s canines have pierced the artery, the whiskers move forward, encircling the prey’s neck, and determine if the prey’s pulse is gone.
yeah that's not even close to what you are saying.

only thing i could find that looks like actual research is they blindfolded some cats and the cats could still catch and kill mice. that's it.

>>1035454
no dude i can defect a pulse or lack of one in a few seconds too, but i can't detect blood flow vibrations in a split second. the two are completely different.

>>1035448
I'm not saying it's wrong (though after even more research I still haven't found anything else and the site you linked has no source it cites), I'm just saying it seems like bullshit

>>1035460
>I didn't know you were a tiger
i'm not but pulses are fucking strong they can be easily detected by our clumsy fingers, also if you cut all the whiskers from a tiger it could still detect the moment the heart stops in a multitude of ways. for example the pulse is strong enough to be picked up by the lips the blood stops gushing from the wound and the prey probably relaxes in the moment of death.

>>1035471
you proved nothing so far except that you can't source your claim of "cats being able to aim their bite by detecting vibrations from blood flow". that's pretty much it.

>refusing to acknowledge that whiskers are a much more precise method
nobody said that, i said there is no conclusive evidence to even that, as the cats could tell a multitude of ways when the blood flow stops other than that.

we know their whiskers are very sensitive, but being able to detect pulse by them does not imply the sensitivity anywhere near to what is needed to what you described. not even remotely close.

blind (or any) people can sometimes tell how big the room is from the way the sound bounces that doesn't necessarily make them daredevils.

>>1035491
>asks to prove a negative
hmm... sure thing buddy.

>>1023281

>>1035579
>disregard my sources
>obvious logic
naah, you are stating things none of your cited sources claim, and it's not like they actually are high quality scientific research or anything to begin with. then you proceed to call people that don't believe you morons who can't follow simple logic but failed to demonstrate the ability to actually use proper logic, for example:
>When you feel your pulse in your wrist, how on earth is it not the vibration of blood flowing through your body?
now the pulse you feel is a change in blood pressure not a vibration. it generates vibration in the infra sound spectrum that doctors can hear with their stethoscopes but it's not an actual vibration and detecting it is nowhere near the same difficulty as detecting the sound the blood makes when it flows. but fun fact you can't really hear the blood flowing in an artery even with a stethoscope if you don't restrict the blood-flow.

>>1035605
>i didnt even read 90% of your post
yeah that is one of the problems with people like you
>If they could feel heart beats so well with their lips or paws they wouldnt have whiskers.
the whiskers serve many many purpose just not the one you made up. without whiskers cat would be really fucked as they don't see very well up close. as it turns out their whiskers can even detect objects they don't touch directly because they can detect the change in air flow caused by objects and living things.

technically all hairs can do this even you can feel it on your arms if someone sneaks past by you in the dark. cats whiskers are just way more sensitive but still operate on the same basic principle.

>>1035196
If I came across cougar kittens on my property I'd kill them. Fuck that shit.

>>1035619
>You're subtley agreeing with what I've said.
no i'm not. you provided no source for this statement so far:
>They have whiskers that sense your blood flowing. It's how they bite the neck so accurately.
nothing can be found so far that would remotely support this statement.

>>1035784
and if i could get away with it in a court of law i would kill people like you without hesitation.

>>1023281
>attempt to scare it off cause I don't wanna unnecessarily kill wildlife.
>if it won't fuck off, introduce it to my ruger super blackhawk

>>1023657
Lol jesus.

It's not many things that fill me with pride for my home state but the fact that they don't pull this bullshit makes me happy.

>Florida
>Mountain Lions extinct for a while, finally start cropping back up.
>Migrated down from further north, started establishing permanent populations.
>Florida Wildlife Commission is fucking ecstatic about this. Sets up conservation areas, puts out public info, starts tracking populations, etc
>Cougar population begins to stabilize. Repeat with Panthers. Same thing happens.

FWC actually gives a shit about their ecology. It's nice.

>>1035888
Trips speak the truth. Only seen a mountain lion in real life once, it was the coolest animal I've seen.

>>1023281
>not carrying a gun innawoods
He'd be no match for my .357.

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>>1023443
That book helped me become a man at age 9.

>>1023769
Similar to when Obama said it was workplace violence... after that Muslim guy killed several coworkers by decapitation while shouting aloha akbar.

>>1035443
I've just been laughing at this argument, but chiming in that this is not even close to proof of the original claim. Yeh their whiskers can detect blood flow, the same way my fingers can by checking a pulse. Props for trying though, but it looks like many people disagree with you bro.

>>1035579
>>1035602
>sources
>sierra club superpower animals clickbait

>>1023475
Just bodyslam it

>>1035888
>muh animals
I did say MY PROPERTY, so fuck off.

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>>1035949
>Private property

>>1035941
Yet again, nothing is said about sensing preys blood vibrating

And don't try to equate pulse with blood vibrations, stick to your guns

>>1035949
doesn't matter only the sentiment matters. people that voice opinions about mindless destruction of nature should be put down in my opinion and i would do just that if it was legal.
>>1035941
>http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/wild/animal-intervention/articles/facts-tiger-lady/
>A cat's whiskers are filled with nerve endings and are extremely sensitive to changes in its surroundings.
wrong it's just hair it's not filled with sensors the sensors are in the skin.
>It uses its whiskers to tell them if their prey's pulse is gone and also to help them sense the slightest movement all around them.
maybe, altho i explained how else a tiger could tell if the pulse is gone, but maybe. it still does not say anything about aiming a bite based on "blood flow vibrations".

>>1035105
>Seems like a lot of the victims are also children 14 and under.


Yeah, which is why /out/ worries a lot

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>>1036312

>>1036093
no pulse is not any more vibration than walking.
your pulse that you feel in your wrist is a change in blood pressure. just because it's periodic it shouldn't be confused with vibrations (which are side effects of mechanical work in systems)

>>1036587
>Vibration is a mechanical phenomenon whereby oscillations occur about an equilibrium point.
basically you don't expend energy on vibrations they are caused by the elastic properties of the mechanical system. your heartbeat is not such a phenomenon. it is the hydraulic effect of the contraction of heart muscles.

>>1036654
yes indeed, but pulses are not vibrations. the vocal cords vibrate not your lungs.

>>1036730
nobody said it doesn't. i said pulses are not fucking vibrations. not any more than walking and breathing or blinking. sounds may make objects vibrate and vibrating objects make sounds. and that is pretty much a fact. what is not a fact that heartbeats or pulses are vibrations. that is idiocy.

>>1036923
i'm trolling? heh that's a good one!
>They have whiskers that sense your blood flowing. It's how they bite the neck so accurately.
>Yes thats what its refering to. However, the whiskers sense the changes in vibration connected to major arteries. This is how it knows to bite the neck rather than the arm.
>Can you explain to me how pulse =/= blood flowing
>When you feel your pulse in your wrist, how on earth is it not the vibration of blood flowing through your body?
>For God's sakes man. Do you have children?
>Even people can feel "blood flow vibrations", just touch your wrist.
>Blood vibrations are pulse you moron I am sticking to my guns you refuse to understand how any living creature functions
>If you're such a skeptic try providing proof to the contrary instead of semantics.

>>1023555
Epin trips on trail camera photo of a mountain kitty

Same story here in northern ca, we've got mtn lions denning up under people's houses in town here and the government still stands on their "one lion per 100 square miles" bullshit

>>1023443
god damn i rmember reading this book and being so sad....

dogs are gods. perfect companions.

>>1023458
supposedly.

they say same for new england, yet about six years ago one was hit and killed by a car in connecticut. and they gave some BS excuse that it had 'traveled' to CT from Idaho.

>>1023538
just wear a mask with a face painted on it and have it on back of your head

>>1023657
similar story happened in connecticut a few years ago

>>1037172
>makes shit up and presents them like fact
>calls pulse in arteries a vibration
>calls pulse blood flow
>gets personal for no reason
>calls you total retard with minimal education
>various iterations of aforementioned
your power levels are showing don't worry!

>>1037349
>Everyone knows you're wrong
really? i wish we had ids here so you could get btfod.

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>>1023475
I ironically want to fight a cougar now.

>>1037663
no i just told you despite what you made up in your head that heartbeat and pulse is not a vibration. that was it. all the rest is just in your head. sadly it's leaking out.

>>1023475
I'm 6'2 and reading this made me understand how manlets feel

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>>1023475

You've all been baited.

This is old copypasta how the hell has nobody seen this before?

>>1037677

You're a dumbass if you think the heart doesn't create a vibration.

>>1037349
You are vehemently retarded.

>>1037870
>You're a dumbass if you think the heart doesn't create a vibration.
again, never said that. i said heartbeat and pulse and blood flow are not vibrations as that retard repeatedly claimed. i also said they create vibrations but blood flow does not create vibrations you could detect unless it's constricted. and also said the vibrations that heartbeat and pule generate can not realistically be used to aim a bite.

so the motherfucker is making shit up and talking utter bullshit confusing totally different things and tries to pretend he is not talking creationist level unscientific bullshit.

why are you cucks scared of cougars? they're just oversized housecats.

is there a hotline for hunters with licenses/tickets/tags to kill them? I can't tell you how often I've seen mt lions, deer, bear, grizzle, moose, etc and would have called and left its location. Hunters around my area are always complaining about wasting tags at the end of a season here.

>>1030231
are you implying that a full grown 'roo wouldn't fuck up a cougar?

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>>1023281
Eat a 10mm, bitch!

>>1038021
>Lol I never claimed they WERE vibrations you braindead scumbag
you literally and repeatedly did faggot. now you are backpedaling as expected.

>>1023281
>>>/b/

>>1038037
that would be an interesting match to see. one should not underestimate either of them. cats are the kung-fu champions of the animal kingdom. but giant red roos are tough customers and can kill large dogs pretty consitently.

>>1038037

seeing as cougar have killed grizzly and moose, don't see why it couldn't up a roo.

>>1038419
all of these quotes are from your posts: >>1036941
they are all technically incorrect and at the very minimum proof of very poor english. at worst they show serious lack of schooling and the lack of ability to use proper logic.

>>1023281
Aww pussykins just wants a pity pat.

>>1038626
>Throw on that thinkin cap little buddy and admit you can't read.
rofl so it's not that you can't write but the others can't read? can you dig yourself any deeper?

>>1023281
Bad kitty! Bad! Please go kitty! Please!

bitch is nuts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bkwy0scRXBU

>>1038668
Bad ass! I wonder how many people have been killed thinking they are being bluff charged.

>>1038744
probably way way less than how many ran away screaming from a bluff charge or shot the bear and telling everyone they were vivaciously attacked by a man eater.

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>mfw two idiots have spent a week arguing about "blood vibrations"

>>1037983
Kind of defeats the purpose of hunting them. Would be killing, not hunting, at that point.

3spoopy5me
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B85Hi4djjZk

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>You will never get Mountain Kitty cuddles

what the hell happened in this thread lmao

>>1025564
oh fug :DDDDDD

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>>1039721
Ugh. Who thought it was a good idea to protect mountain lions in California? I just drew D16 (San Diego) for deer for my first time deer hunting ever, and I have to compete with these super predators.

>>1023443
the ffeeeeeelz

>>1023443
They made me read this in 3rd grade.