Fishing & Tackle Thread

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Long time catfisher in the James and close by rivers. Also go out in the bay 5-6 times a year. Today was my first day trout fishing up in the blue ridge mountains while camping. I caught a bunch but gut hooked every single one. Felt bad throwing the babies back and they did nothing but float and die.

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>That is not dead which can eternal lie

>>1019705
You sound like a nigger. That's why you shouldn't soak bait unless you intend to harvest the fish.

Scum.

Hey Skid,

Your pastebin needs to be edited for readability. I'll give it a once over and may add some content or expand on details I think are lacking.

>>1019729
I hastily typed it out on my phone and hardly proofread it figuring "its better than nothing"
Thanks for the edit/update/expansion
>>1019564
>implying that's worse than giving too many options and overwhelming them
>>1019573
9.6/10
>>1019637
+1
>>1019676
>memecaster
>for an ultralight rod
Thats the avenger 15

>>1019732
>tell them to buy a rod/reel in a price range and tell them what to avoid buying
>advicee goes into walmart and leaves confident in what they grabbed

>tell them something specific
>can't find it or don't like it, fear anything else is garbage
>leaves unhappy

>>1019600
Sure thing, kid.

>>1019655
If your hull is filling with water you've got serious problems

>>1019732
Not trying to knock you at all. Thanks for making a good resource for flyfishing info.

>>1019729
The fly fishing one?

Like anything else Skid types, there's probably a few useful nuggets in there if you can manage to read through it. If you want to edit or update it, go for it. Just email the final version to me (if it's too long to post here) and I will put it on the Pastebin.

GetSomeMemes at gmail

Same for anything else in the Pastebin or Imgur. If anybody has something to add or change, just email me.

I try to post most of the useful infographs and shit from these threads into the Imgur. I wish Pastebin allowed pics because it would be nice to attach images with some of the posts.

>>1019739
I thought with most kayaks that have been well used, you are likely to get a little water in the hull and it's straight as long as it's just a little bit.

>>1019732
Hey, would you count backing as a type of fly line? I'm thinking I'll move it to a separate discussion after the typical lines (dt, wf), but before leaders and tippet.

>>1019744
Filling with water and a little water are two very different things, mine never gets more than maybe a 1/4 cup in the hull and thats because i don't keep it covered.

>>1019743
It I know, there's cruticism and mindless bashing
Mindless bashing would be more like
>skid, your pastebin sucks and you should an hero"

Also
>making a good resource
Thanks anon

>>1019753
Oops, didnt see this. I would say it's not fly line just because it's 20-30 pound braided dacron labled "fly line backing"

Do you even need a leader for crankbaits or could I just use braided line without a leader

How big of a spoon is too big if i'm fishing for Pike/Walley?

>>1019765
You can run braid straight to a crank, and thats the normal way to fish them. If you're having particular trouble getting them to run deep enough (braid floats) or the fish are super spooky you can run a fluorocarbon leader though.

>>1019769
There really isn't an upper limit for pike, I've had them hit baits bigger than them while fishing for muskies. I couldn't tell you on walleye.

>>1019757
>>1019744
Updated version here,
https://pastebin.com/XjTj9sBP

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who /pees in their waders/ here

>>1019788
Why even wear waders then?

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>>1019788
>mfw i warm water myself

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>>1019791
>not wanting pure unfiltered piss
>wanting your piss to dissipate through brook water
>not appreciating the thrill of /warm watering/ yourself while staring into the eyes of another fisherman

>>1019770
Diameter matters more for how deep something dives with cranks

>>1019705
fucking baitfags when will they learn
man up and ride the fly

>>1019793
>>1019794
Go to bed Adam

>>1019797
SpiderWire still makes that Flouro-Braid I think. I grabbed a 10lb 300yd spool out of the clearance bin at Bass Pro. It works alright if I want a Mepps to run a foot deeper and helps keep lighter Texas rigs down on the bottom. Only problem is it's SpiderWire so it frays.

>tfw coffee grill convinced me to come to some Latin dance club
So I'm the only person here who doesn't speak Spanish and I don't dance.

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>>1019838
I need about 3 beans and 7 drinks

Yup. Fishin.

>>1019838
It makes you unique in the club.

>>1019702
Anyone ever use or own a bass cat boat? I like the company philosophy and it's not a trash aluminum tracker boat made out of China tier China brand aluminum.

The cougar advantage with the power poles looks great for the money.

>>1019848
Sorry, my only motorized boat is an 18' Grizzly v-prow jonboat that I hunt with. Made in 'Murika steel hull.

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Q: What are good colors for catching bluegill?

chartreuse
olive
yellow
black
?

>>1019840
>3 beans

theres prolly a few there already...

>>1019859
Chartruese. White. Hot pink. Any bright colors they go for.

When the DJ came around and gave a shout-out to the Venezuelans I was with, I cheered along with them so I guess I'm Venezuelan. But they (random beans) say I look Cuban but speak spanish like a Mexican.

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For anyone interested, pic related

>>1019931
>tfw the Kayak I bought retails for almost 2x the price I paid.

The only question is it seems that it is only distributed through Costco so I guess the listed price is missleading

>>1019934
I know I've asked a couple times but the inside of the kayaks hull should be water proof right?

It seems like anything they drilled or attached onto the hull, they applied a layer of sealant on the inside, I had read complaints that it filled with water, though these reviews were from last year so maybe they fixed It?

Also, how do you change tackle in a Kayak, just seems like all kinds of bad things can happen during that process

>>1019705
I hope you counted those trout as your limit. Why use bait fishing for trout like that anyways?

>>1019938
If it leaks reseal it yourself.

>Also, how do you change tackle in a Kayak, just seems like all kinds of bad things can happen during that process
You just reach over and grab whatever you want.

>>1019788
my waders are neoprene and the ammonia in piss is bad for them
if i had gortex waders or something i still wouldnt do it
>>1019786
>https://pastebin.com/XjTj9sBP
i cant remember exactly what i typed, and reading back i can see a few gramatical errors, and a few techniques left out, but those techniques are usually pretty obscure
>>1019799
+1
>>1019859
>chartreuse
chartrues and pink are my go to, particularly chartreuse curly tail grubs with pink jigheads

who's your favorite tripfag?

me? zuriss (skid is a close second)

>>1019859
Think bright, visible colors. Panfish like to sight feed, and those colors stand out.

Chartreuse, orange, pink, white, yellow and black. They'll take a hit at anything that looks like a bug or a small minnow. They especially like dangly bits that provide motion, which is why a lot of panfish flies have foam legs. It's also why marabou jigs work so well when suspended beneath a bobber; the motion of the bobber on top shakes the jig just enough to attract gills.

>I want to keep the catch but the swamp waters are polluted as hell
>I can't get most of them to get alive into water neither
why live

>>1019954
What are you catching and how badly are you handling them such that they die in the water?

>>1019951
Zuriss pls.

KVD is the best, always posting the OP.

>>1019954
You won't even keep the panfish?

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>tfw no gf to go fishing with me

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>>1019979
Start playing around on the dating apps. I'm gonna see if that shit turns into anything. Already scared off the first girl who messaged me on there. Told her not to call me when I was fishin because she was boring.

Still not sure of I would ever take any of them fishing tho.

>tfw every time coffee grill pisses me off a bit and I give her some distance, she gets way more into it when I come back around
Fucking annoying.

>>1019979
Approach girl at party. Engage in conversation. Tell her she's going fishing with you.

Good luck

>>1019951
I hate Skid for being fat and his reddit upboat shit.

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I lost my favorite trout lure yesterday...
RIP
ROOSTER TAIL - ORIGINAL - PROPELLOR BLADE STYLE Fire Tiger

>>1020024
It happens. Lost my favorite rapala last week. Rip original orange floater

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Got this nice 5lb striper on the Sacramento river the other day, it put up a good fight on my memecasting setup. Used a 4" white swimbait on a 1/4 oz jighead.

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Here is some of the meat (spine, cheeks, belly, collars) that I cooked up right after cleaning it. I froze one fillet and put the other one in the fridge in a ziploc bag with some milk to cook up later.

>>1019979
Just wait until you marry.
You'll want to go fishing to escape her.

>>1019951
>skid is a close second
Celebrate good times WOO HOO 2nd place
>>1020029
Nice fish

Anon from a few threads ago that asked about the beetlespin.

It really works wonders. Landed sunfish, crappie, and almost a bass. Fucker de-hooked two feet from shore. I suggest everyone have one or two in their tackle box

>>1020061
Not that guy, but how do you fish it?
I've had a few over the years and they never get any bites. Would like to know what I'm doing wrong.

>>1020082

I fish mine like a spinner bait. I don't have much success with them either. Never even caught a fish on a spinner bait

Plastic and hard twitch/jerk/swim baits are my go to lures.

>>1020032
kekd
i know these feels my dude

>>1020082
You aren't because I was that anon. I got positive reviews so I picked a few up and I love em. Just cast, steady retrieve, repeat. Fan cast and be mobile. Run it through weeds. Fish won't hit it if you fish during the day or in clear water

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>>1019938
depends on your hatches. and the way they put on the loops. did they use a sealant on the screw or rivet holes? lots of people end up adding extra sealant (3m boat caulk) and seals. Put some pool noodles in the interior of the kayak if it does ever get loaded too much at least it wont sink.

to change out tackle i usually reach around or side saddle the kayak. I keep a smaller box in between my legs to hold things i know im going to use. did you look at utube for re entry tips? you should.

>>1020014
>Tell her she's going fishing with you.
>on your boat
>"we'll have lunch and a few drinks"

she smiles when you tell her to not forget to bring a bathing suit...

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yesterday i found a nice little spot a half hour from home, and i want to go back but its raining like fuck
>obligitory dink post

just saw a huge fish omg

like 2 feet away from me

where's carp anon? i forgot to tell him a way to catch carp
>3/0 treble hook
>50 pound power pro
>egg sinker
use a vice, hammer and some kind of environmentally friendly oil or grease (crisco, cooking oil) to hammer the lead on to the shank of the hook, tie it to a heavy rod with heavy pound line, cast out, and snag the carp
be ready to lose some gear
>>1020113
catch it

>>1020118
I'm the carp anon and you just responded to me

it doesn't seem to want my corn...

>>1020120
oh
maybe theyre not carp then? i dont know what else they could be though. catfish spawn in holes, bass spawn in deeper water, pike finished months ago...

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>>1020128
just caught this little guy

hooked him in the throat... there was a lot of blood taking the hook out

think he's dead?

>>1020129
poor fish. he was a baitfish anyways, a turtle or catfish will eat him

>>1020131
he swam off... after falling down the hill

what kind of fish is it?

Dicks big Memorial Day sale lasts all week right?

>>1020128
>bass spawn in deeper water

??

>>1020132
looks like a creek chub, they're fun on super light tackle, and actually get to be like 10 inches
>>1019357
theres a bigger one i got yesterday morning
if you put him under a big bobber on a circle hook a pike or bass would probably eat him

>>1020140
usually bigger bass spawn in water closer to 8 feet deep in my experience. dinks will be in shallower water

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Went out this morning to a lake that has a lot of bass according to biologists' survey information available on the state wildlife website. I didn't do great, just caught a decent bass and channel cat on a brush hog. Meanwhile my buddy got this 4 lber. And he had a bigger one on, but it jumped and threw the hook.

>>1020144
You're talking like double digit bass. 5lbers regularly spawn in 3-5ft of water.

>>1020146
i've never managed a spring bass over 12 inches in under 5 feet of water. i could be wrong, but the only bass i see over 2 pounds in under 5 feet are mid summer buried under a layer of scum and pads

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>>1020148
>pic was is 2ft of water

I can sight fish for big bass during the spawn and very very few lakes around here have more than 2 foot visibility. Maybe it's a southern thing.

>>1020159
maybe. also usually the lakes up here are pretty clear.

>>1020159
Nah I see 3-6lb bass building nests/actively guarding their beds all the time in less than 6 feet of water. And I'm in Northern IL

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Going to be hitting up some south Florida Piers in a few weeks & could use some advise. What are the must have lures & tackle I should try? Is there a specific bubbler/bucket combo I should use to keep bait fish alive or will just about any setup I pick up at a tackle shop work?

>>1020173
your pic related is a good thing to have, a friend of mine named marlin (he's actually in englewood florida now, dont expect great fishing, he told me a red tide just cleared out a little while ago and fish have not moved back in yet) swears by something called "silly willies" i think theyre also called pompano jigs. bucktail jigs are also essential. and as for live bait, a few circle hooks (2, 3/0, 5/0) should cover you, and a few wire leaders should be on hand. and for a bubbler, a foam bucket with a lid to keep your bait from cooking alive, and any bubbler should do. and be sure to talk to the guys working at baitshops, try to find a local business, they will have people who know what they are on about

>>1020138
Yes. Our "biggest boat sale of the year" just started today too.

t. Dicks employee.

>>1020177
>bucktail jigs

Do crappie jigs fall under that name? I used these white feathered crappie jigs off a pier this time last year I caught an insane amount of Lookdowns/Moonfish. If you could recommend a specific one I would love to try it.

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>>1020179
those are small ones, but they're the same consept. spro makes good ones, but thats the only brand i know off the top of my head
>pic related
a 1/2 ounce, 3/4 ounce, and a 1 ounce should cover everything

>>1020159
>expecting skid to not be a retard
You're asking too much.

Also I wasn't going to say anything but skid that Carp rig you just posted is stupid

Any thoughts on these "Gulp Alive" baits?

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I really need to get a net...

it slipped off right as I was trying to lift it out of the water

>>1020183
>that Carp rig you just posted is stupid
its a makeshift snagging hook
>pic related
alternatively you could buy snagging hooks premade, or cast them yourself (but then you need to get something in which to melt lead, raw lead, and some kind of mould)

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>>1020186

Fuck, forgot the image. I've never used any of these but I'm interested to know if they would work on saltwater piers & what I could get with them.

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>>1020183
>>1020189
oy, forgot pic

>>1020190
flounder like them on bucktails

>>1020190
just caught that catfish on an orange one of those

it got hooked while I was untangling a knot

>>1020186
They work. Most gulp products are pretty dank for salt water work especially when you have them on jig heads or something like a spro buck tail.

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alright so I think I tied my boat correctly, the straps don't slip and the boat no longer rocks when I drive.

now what the hell do I do with this 4ft of extra length flapping around the side?
also should I remove the seat back cushion when transporting?

>>1020212
you can knot it to itself or you can put it in the door and close it

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Where is a good place in AZ TO GO FISHING

>>1020212
run it up a ways, and do a couple of half hitches to tie its self to its self, but youll be able to get it off when its time to untie

>>1020240
i bet in water

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Dink gill incoming.
Still fun as fuck to catch though.

>go fishing with father and brother.
>brother catches a catfish
>father catches a catfish and a sunfish
>I don't catch shit.
;_;

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Why? Also I just ate the driest pork I have ever aten.

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>>1020283
>>1020260
TIE THESE TOGETHER

>>1020283
Can't really catch too many fish with that kind of tackle.
You might get some decent lure action, but it's the lack of casting distance that ultimately does you in.

>>1020178

I don't want to go there till later in the week before I go to work. I hope they still have some non fruity hydro flasks left.

>>1020190
Honestly, you can catch just about anything on a pier with those. Personally I've caught sand trout, croaker, and some small/baby reds on those. And I've seen a few guys pull in some flouder with those as well. Hell, I've even had a squid try to eat one of those.

>>1020032
Yep. Constantly feel like I'm on the clock.

>>1020113
i have seen some big ass carp come really close to me at shore. fuckers are not spooked at all.

>>1019951
Peps. His addiction to coffee and picture his posts with the knife striking a ferro rod blade first warms my heart.

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I can't believe y'all don't have luck with the trick worms with chartreuse tips

>>1020190
NJ flounder anglers use those religiously with bucktails, they are a very versatile lure.

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Man, hate to blog but I think I'm starting to get bored of fishing. I've been doing it for a few years now and not having a boat really really sucks.

Other than the fact that I feel like I've fished every public fishing hole I'm sick of dealing with crackheads/junkies/general retards that hang around the spots. I think once I get a boat in about a year or so I'll be a lot more enthusiastic about it.

Anyone ever felt the same?

>>1020301
Yeah honestly. Pretty much the only place I'll fish from shore is the beach. Otherwise I'll go out on my pos boat, but sometimes I feel like I'm going out just for the motion of doing so, especially when the weather is going to suck. It's not like I have bundles of time to go fishing so when the opportunity is there I go regardless of how I feel about it.

>>1020301
Get an aluminum rowboat for ~300$?

my line is all twisted up... how do I fix it every time I cast I get a huge tangle

>>1020303
>>1020301
I feel exactly the same.
I want to like fishing and I do love fishing, but no place is shore accessible near me, spent a considerable time time trying to catch a fish with no luck.

So I spend some cash on a Kayak and now have a reason to make it worth my while.

>>1020301
Not realy.

>>1020314
Oh fucking finally. I have reset my connection 15 times today. Fucking mobile IP bans.

>>1020304
>>1020301
i'd say get an aluminum john boat, then as money comes in, add a marine plywood deck and an outboard/trolling motor, by the end of the year your $300 john boat +400 dollar upgrades (most of that is just motors) will be really kick ass and probably better than whatever you could get for 700

>>1020298
Pepsi pls.

Everyone knows TXlizardfag is number one because he has that fine little no bra hoe that buys him shit.

>>1020187
Yeah get a net or grab them while they are in the water.

>>1020032
Constantly.

>>1019951
I am not sure how comfortable I feel being so close to Skid.

>>1019788
That is just nasty.

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>>1020298
4u

>>1020299
They work, I like the junebug with chart tip. It's just annoying when mayans and bluegill are nipping at em the whole time.

>>1020319
Kek. Txfag's girl aint bad. If coffee grill ever makes up her mind tho, I'm gonna make her buy me shit. I kinda tell her to fuck off and go find her 50 year old man she thinks she wants but then she comes back closer the next time I see her. I hate women. Maybe I will let Skid move in with me.

And as long as it's anybody but Skid...

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>>1020301
Nah man. I go damn near everyday and some days I get skunked. It's more about being outside and meditating than actually catching something to me.

Sometimes not catching anything can be frustrating though.

Also, if I didn't go fish everyday I would miss some of the most gorgeous sunsets. I actually quit fishing early to watch this one.

>>1020327
You hear that Skid?
Pepsi's giving you an open invitation.
Take advantage, man.

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>>1019951
I think skid just because these generals wouldn't be the same without his autism

>>1020319
>>1020327
She's pretty cool. I should really lock her down, but I still have some pretty strong feelings for my ex and I don't think it would be fair to no bra girl to say I wanna be with her but be thinking of someone else. But what we're doing now isn't really fair either because we aren't seeing anyone else and we don't want to stop seeing each other, so we're in this weird limbo. I'm really conflicted about the whole situation.

Thank god I have fishing at least.

And yeah peps I feel you on the panfish nibblin. I've gotten pretty good at telling the difference. Panfish usually peck at it a few times before moving it. Not that bass won't do that too, but panfish do it more. Also, usually the bass feels heavier.

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No fish today, just fresh snow and scenery.

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>>1020345
Idk, I think those Mayans will grab the chartruese tail and run with it. So sometimes even after trying to set the hook, I will feel the fish hanging on for a couple seconds before they let go.

And I already know I'm going to piss a couple girls off tryin to talk to them while I'm still chillin with coffee grill a bit. That Jamaican girl asked somethin along those lines like when or who was the last girl u were talkin to and I was like "nah I totally let her go do her own thing" while we still hangin out. But she my buddy so we'll see what happens.

>fishing & tackle & relationships thread

>>1020349
I forgot you have the Mayans I'm sure they're aggressive enough to just pick it up and go. I try to run them with braid so I can take it easy on the hook set so I don't rip off tails lol.

>>1019951
Me. Although I don't tripfag anymore and I was irrelevant when I did.

>>1020187
Grab it you fucking pussy.

>>1020366
I tried to but it slipped and swam off

it was too big to get with one hand

>>1020332
>being outside and meditating
flyfishing shill time!
fly fishing has actually been scientifically proven to relax in the same way as yoga, by drawing all your focus on to a simple, high precision motion, it pulls you hard out of reality.
>>1020327
>Maybe I will let Skid move in with me
ill start packing!
>>1020346
absolutely gorgeous

>>1019931
>$679
I thought this was new and supposed to be nearly $900

>>1020386
grab it by the mouth, ya dingus

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How am I suppose to store these fucking things? The tackle boxes are either too small or too big and using the packaging would be a pain in the ass since you'd have to assemble and disassemble the wire and hooks all the time in order for it to fit.

>>1020429
Yeah. "biggest boat sale of the year" anon.
>>1020434
Our labels for those are fucking hysterical
>110mm duck wood

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>>1019705
That's bad and you should feel bad. Use artificials with barbless hooks if you plan on CaR. Or just keep a limit and eat the trout. Most waters have 7" min and they are delicious.
Fellow VA fag. This is from the James.

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>>1020061
Caught everything but Snakehead with the beetle spin today. Little crappie, catfish, bluegill and bass. I think I'm cursed at catching one. Using 10lb braid and 20lb Fluro leader with an Alberto knot. Really love the knot and it has held well and casted beatifully through the guides.
Used these for the first time and fucking love them. Looking forward to using them with the Blues, Striper in the surf.

>>1020240
White Mountain Lake Cutthroat. Or do a road trip to Nevada and fish Pyramid Lake.

>>1020187
GET A NET THAT DOESNT GET HOOKS STUCK IN THEM

Something like a rubber and not cloth.

>>1020610
but the rubber lets are like 80 bucks

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>tfw Bass Pro actually had a FLASH SALE!!!!
>not a single fishing item on there
Cunts

>>1020704
Absolutely disgusting.png

>>1020704
Explain to me why a FISHING STORE would have a huge sale RIGHT AT THE HEIGHT OF FISHING SEASON when they know they can sell an assload of fishing stuff at full price?

>>1020474
that pretty interesting, what is the benefit of those compared to regular quick snaps?

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to those that kayak. do you wear a lifevest when going?
I don't know rules or laws but I've been wearing one. but the only problem is that it's rather cumbersome and is impeding my movement around the craft.

would I be forced to get a new life jacket, or can I just forgo it because I am an impeccable swimmer?

>>1020719
Give new fisherman a taste, before they get hopelessly addicted buying tons of shiny lures.

>>1020719
Almost every fishing store does a sale around spring/the spawn. That's also when a lot of the new lures and reels come out so they put the old stuff on sale to clear out inventory.

>>1020735
No anon, wear a lifevest at all times. If you need to spend big monies for one that works for you then do it. Waterfaring is statistically one of the most dangerous activities you can do. None of the thousands of people who have died thought they would die. Just wear your shit, friend.

>>1020735
ALWAYS wear some form of PFD. If you need to drop monies on a self-inflating belt or something, do it, but a decent kayaking-cut life vest starts around $30.

The primary reason people die on the water is they get knocked out. Doesn't matter how good a swimmer you are if you're unconscious.

>>1020743
None of the literally dozens of ones (both local and chain) near me do...all their good fishing sales are in March which is almost always a solid month before spawn. Yeah the chain stores will have some okay sales all year long on fishing shit, but the really good sales are late winter or early spring.

>>1020719
They aren't selling anything fishing related. Mostly just apparel which is always on sale anyways.

>>1020735
It's probably like most watercraft where you need to have one on the boat but don't need to wear it. But on a kayak, I suggest either a good water ski type one that you can still move in or get one of those emergency ones that automatically inflates if you go over.

If you're out in cooler water in the spring, you would be suprised how hard it is to swim. Even if your a strong swimmer, you will start cramping like crazy and can barely swim.

>>1020735
I use one when I'm when I'm paddling across open water, when it's really hot, or if I'm not feeling that good. If I'm paddling in some shallow water close to the shore I don't worry about it too much.

Also, look up the laws. This is something you should've done before you started yaking lol.

>>1020762
Yes, that's exactly what I mean. Why give discounts on shit you'll sell a lot of anyway at the height of the time you're selling a lot of it anyway?

Ever notice how pretty much every store ever runs sales on stuff that's out of season or is about to come into season, not when it's in full-swing? Bass Pro is doing that right now.

>>1020757
Last time I checked March is in the spring, which for a whole lot of a states is when the prespawn/spawn is. And it makes sense to sell stuff at the height of the season because people would rather go to a place that has stuff on sale than somewhere that doesn't.

It's not like their sale prices are usually that great anyway. It's just to get more customers. People are more likely to pick up something they wouldn't have originally if it's on sale. So a store could but some lures that aren't moving well at 20% off and lose maybe a dollar, then throw like 10% off a few reels and make more money because more people buy from them.

Sales in the off season makes sense too, I'm just saying there's definitely reasons for things to be on sale during the season. Especially a long one like fishing season.

>>1020773
>which for a whole lot of a states is when the prespawn/spawn is
Tennessee here. Week out of June and the bluegill just started digging their nests. Bass aren't even in prespawn yet. This is typical.

80% of the US isn't even considered prespawn until mid-May, 50% won't spawn until June, 20% won't spawn until July most years. Yeah, there's outlier years, but they're fucking outliers. Basically only the Gulf Coast and the southern half of Florida will even be prespawn in March, which is ~10% of the US as it won't even include all of the landmass of those coastal states.

And I worded that poorly. The actually-good sales will start about halfway through January and the last of them will be in March. At least for all the stores within 100 miles of me. Anything after March 5th will be 5-10% off a few items here and there as they focus more on boating and camping shit throughout mid-late spring and early summer, and then the hunting shit starts to go on sale last half of June.

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Y'all I'm spoiled. I'm paying her back for this, but she got it for a little over $110.

Now I've gotta find a dope saltwater rod to throw it on. I'm thinking a castaway Skelton V2

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>>1020782
Does she work somewhere with that stuff?

Also for pic related, I know I have mentioned this place on /out/ but maybe not in these threads. This is the cabin in northern WI, on a crystal clear lake and it's so nice up there. 7mi from the nearest tiny town. Damn bears.

He told me one of the scariest encounters tho was years back when his grandpa was up there a lot. He heard knocking at the cabin door, opens it, and mama bear is there scratching with 2 cubs right by her. He slams the door, runs in for the 12ga, comes back out and luckily she ran off after he shot a few into the air.

They're just black bears so you don't need to go full .50cal but you don't really want to wander around without some type of gun. Even when we were kids up there like 10 years old we would be armed. Kinda funny to think about that now but his grandpa also taught us hella gun safety

>>1020776
Which lakes are you fishing? I looked at a couple of major lakes in Tennessee and they're all around 60 degrees which is definitely in the prespawn.

And I'm not saying the stores are gonna have huge sales (a flash sale is never huge), but that it would make sense for fishing stuff to be on sale during popular times.

>>1020789
Center Hill, about 3 dozen different subdivision ponds/small lakes, and 2 farm ponds. Even the comparatively shallow farm ponds are just shy of 60* currently (one is 59* surface temp and deepest of ~8ft, the other is 57* surface temp but a 25ft deep one). Center Hill is still in the upper 40's for surface temp at 7am, but it's deep as shit (there's 250ft deep channels and one hole that's ~400ft deep).

>>1020789
Oh, and yeah they'll have small or shit sales all year round, but my point was directed at the guy who was disappointed in it not being a big or good sale. Like, no shit, they have no reason to take large percentages off things.

>>1020796
Aren't most of y'alls lakes more like large rivers too? I'm sure that doesn't help the temps any lol. Especially if they have the water flowing every day.

I'm surprised those ponds aren't in prespawn at least, but ponds can be weird all around.

>>1020803
Well I think it was just more that it's BASS pro, so you would think at least a few things fishing related would be on sale.

>>1020787
She works at academy, but she hates it and is probably gonna quit soon. I had to get at least something for cheap since she gets a 25% discount.

>>1020803
This >>1020812
BASSpro

Dick's barely sells any fishing stuff compared to the rest of the product in the store and they almost always have fishin stuff on their weekly flash sales.

>>1020782
put it on an UglyStik (tm)

>>1020735
You're a retard. If you flip in cold water you're going to wish you had a life jacket on bud.

If you're worried about looking uncool or think it won't be comfortable get one with the CO2 inflatable cartridges and backup inflation. I would pay for the one that auto inflates when it senses it's submerged in case some drunk retard hits you on a jet ski and knocks you the fuck out.

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Can anyone explain how this happened when I hooked this >>1020299 fish?


>>1020835
To be fair that's probably why dicks always has sales kek

>>1020719
Idk. I keep track of Dick's online sale a lot since they have reasonable limit for free shipping. They seem to only go on good sale during season prime for fishing as well. Lik during winter, their sale page barely have stuffs. Spring and summer approaching and now there's tons of good deals on lures like buy 3 get 3 free good shit like spro bucktail. It seems like for Dick's sporting good case, it has to do with inventory. They only move fishing stuffs in fast during fishing season, but when it comes, they also have to get rid of old stuff at the same time. Out of season, they simply not stock new item and be content with leaving old shit hanging around till next season hit.

>>1020853
The worm rides up like that normally when you get a fish. I dont know why myself. Maybe once the fish bites down on the Texas rig the worm first gets pushed down, then once loose it rides up while you fight the fish

>>1020860
Yeah I've had that happen, but how did the hook get through the tail?

>>1020812
Yeah most of them are impoundments or oxbows, long and deep and winding. Most will have at least some current.

>>1020853
>you cast
>the hook lightly snags the tail
>bass hits
>impales the tail
>worm rides up on hook
>that happens

>>1020862
oh I see it now. Probably what skid said. The bass could do anything with a soft lure and a sharp hook with it's mouth

>>1020789
>it makes sense for fishing stuff to be on sale during popular times.
No it doesn't. You put stuff on sale when it's NOT popular because then people will change their behavior and go buy it.

If you put things on sale when they're going to sell anyway, all you're doing is cutting into your profit margins for no reason.
It's why men's clothing is almost always on sale at department stores and women's stuff almost never is. They know women do the shopping, so they give them an excuse to come in, and rake in the cash when they get something for themselves
>HONEY! I GOT YOU SOME ($40) KHAKIS AND ($30) SHIRTS FOR WORK! They were 50% off this weekend!
>I also got a pair of ($120) shoes and one ($160) cute dress I found...

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I just found the most comfiest fishing spot ever. It's a long stretch of river that's knee deep in most areas, even the middle of it. It has a few deep spots that are around 4 feet deep, though the water is so clear you can see the bottom no mater how deep. The bottom is mostly rocks with occasionally large areas of pure sand. It has large rock formations that you can sit on in the middle of the river. Its surrounded by trees overhanging the river on all sides. Has carp, bass, channelcats and the most aggressive panfish ever. It could possibly have bowfin but I've only caught them many miles downstream where it's deep. Literally the best river I've ever visited, best river for wading into.
Went without my phone last time but I'll post a pic of it later this week when I go back.

>>1020879
Spots like those are incredible to find.

>>1020879
rivers are the best bodies of water. No lake is ever secluded, but certain parts of a river are like a hiking trail and you can hit a spot that looks untouched and remote

>>1020865
>>1020867
That probably is what happened, but I had that hook in the plastic deep, so it was odd to me.

>>1020876
Did you even read why I said it makes sense?

With all this talk about dicks and other chain retailers I need to bring up chuck and deb's again. How come no one buys from there?

>>1020614

http://m.basspro.com/ForEverlast-G2-Pro-Wading-Net/product/14072407164517/?hvarAID=shopping_googleproductextensions

It's only 20 bucks at Academy.

>>1020891
I'm in Florida, Never heard of it
>>1020879
I wish I had spots like this where I don't need to worry about gators

>>1020895
it's not a chain, just a shop in ohio that you can buy online from. A lot of plastic baits and other cheap tackle.

>>1019702
so guys, I got an ultra light rod to catch me some trout and panfish

what lures does /out/ recommend when bluegill are busting on the surface and shellcrackers on the bottom

>>1020891
They seem to be about 20% more expensive than Dick's unless you're buying offbrand stuff.

>>1020945
2" tubes on a 1/32oz jighead.

Cast, let fall to bottom, let sit for a second, pulsing retrieve. Odds are good the 'gills will hit it on the fall, and if not the shellcrackers will suck it up on the bottom.

Also a chance at crappie on the retrieve as well as the bigger 'gills sit deeper.

>>1020945

I like flies and the little foam and cork poppers for surface fish. For shellcrackers, I find the absolute best, and also free/easy ro get bait to be garden snails.

>>1020876
Are you the retarded faggot that stops selling AC units at Lowe's in July so I have to buy one online in August?

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>>1020945
Get one of those rebel crickets. Or some of the 3inch senkos and rip them in half the wacky rig it.

I stopped by gander and got some meme lures. Rods and reels are still 10% off. Almost bought an 8 weight fly setup for salt/bass, but I could get all of it cheaper from Walmart (even with the 25% off for fly stuff). If I do get an 8wt I'm probably gonna look for something in the $200-300 range since I'll only want one.

The girl at the register said they don't have a date when they're officially closing, but it'll be by August for sure. She didn't know if they were gonna drop the rods and stuff any lower either.

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What's the best way to hook a live Pilchard? Through the nose or through the bottom of the mouth?

>>1020978
Nose. They live longer.

>>1020978
I like to hook them through the tail but it depends on what you want the fish to do. If you hook them in the lips they will swim down But in the tail they will swim up. So for example if there's grass you want to keep them out of the tail is good.

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Went fishing on Saturday. Caught a shit load of gills on my 8 foot ultra light eagle, lost a pickerel. Found a brand new package of gills some dumb ass dropped. A good day.

>>1020978
>"Why would you hook me, anon?"
>"What have i ever done to you?"

>>1020978
>That file name

Are you casting a fucking spell?

>>1021044
Spit my beer out when I read the comment and looked at the file name. Now my neighbors think I'm retarded. Thanks

>>1021050
Sorry about the beer. Most of my neighbors do not talk to me anymore they just kind of awkwardly wave.

catfish are booooring takes so long to get a bite

>>1021057
Meh idc. One of my D&D players left it after the game on Saturday night so it was free for me.

>>1020961
It seems that, rather, you're the retard who thinks you're the only person who wants to buy an AC unit in August, and is astonished when you find out that's not the case.
>protip: Getting mad at Customer Service won't change the fact that they're backordered from the factory.
>It just makes you an angrier retard

>>1021108
So do what me and my buddy do use 4 poles each and fill the time with beer, booze, music, weed and the same fishing stories we have told for years.

>>1020885
What you fail to understand is that your scenario doesn't exist right now.
It is summer: EVERY BIT of fishing shit-hooks, rods, reels, line and lures-is already selling like hell. They're already having trouble keeping the really popular stuff stocked where I am.
If places already can't keep shit stocked at normal prices, WHY ON EARTH would they run a fucking sale?
Come on now. Use your head.

>>1021115
>AC unit goes out during the hottest month of the year
>Need new line for my swisher walk behind trimmer in march when my grass has to be cut weekly
>Get told that they do not have them because they are seasonal
>They are seasonal
>Seasonal

Yeah I am the retard for needing things when they are needed.

>>1020945
Small rooster tail always works for me.
It'll get results wherever you choose to run it.

>>1021123
They run those sales so you will go to THIER store and not the competitors store dumb ass.

>>1021123
Yeah I'm sure every single rod, reel, and lure is selling like crazy. There's not any items that aren't moving well they could include in a flash sale. I'm sorry for being dumb anon.

>>1021038
>I believe in you, Pilchard.
>I especially believe in your ability to get eaten by bigger fish

>>1020978
so wtf is a pilchard? Some kind of saltwater shad?

>>1020945
Light jigs (1/16th) and lil lures like tubes and grubs. I like pink and orange.
Bits of bigger soft plastics work too if you dont have any around.

light line btw, id go 4 lb if you know it'll only catch trout and pannies

>>1021149

Basically.

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>>1021108
Use good fresh cut/live bait and Change spots every 15 mins if you don't get a bite, unless its a great transitional area like a shallow point that has deep water nearby.

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>>1020729
Alot easier to attach a lure too and alot less prone to failure. Made by Tactical Angler's Alberto Knie who surf fishes for big striper, Snook, redfish.

>>1021108
>catfish are booooring takes so long to get a bite

You're doing it wrong. Staying in one spot while catfishing and complaining about how boring it is would be like bass fishing where you chucked the same lure into the same spot over and over for an hour.

If you put a bait close enough to a catfish, it will pick it up pretty damn fast.

You have to move around. Target drop offs, overhangs, eddies, structure, etc, just like fishing bass. If a single area doesn't produce any bites in 15 minutes or so, move on.

I just went to a little park pond a couple minute's drive from my place where they stock catfish. Everyone's just sitting around with a couple of rods, casting as far as they can into the center of the pond, and soaking worms/worms/stinkbait. Not catching shit and getting their bait stolen by bluegill.

I mean it's not horrible, as most of them were also just hanging out and drinking/cooking/teaching kids how to fish, but they weren't really catching anything.

Me? I caught some of the bluegill, cut them up and started fishing them under the dock, around a submerged tree over in about 1 ft of water. I caught the 5 fish limit in a little over an hour. All my bites were within about 10 seconds to 5 minutes of my bait hitting the water. One even bit while the bait will still falling.

cont...

>tfw tired early for once

Wow I might actually be able to get some decent sleep and go fishing early in the morning.

>>1021129
It's fucking summer.
Everybody's going everywhere looking for the stuff. There's no need right now It's the same reason that nobody's got AC systems on sale either; this is the time when the demand is there-it's going to move whether you run a sale or not. Might as well make the most money you can while you can, so you can keep the lights on during the slow times.

>>1021132
Quit thinking like a poorfag and start thinking like a store owner.
Stores specializing in fishing gear don't have sales on fishing gear at the start of the peak season because that's when they make their money. You don't make money by giving away your profits when you don't have to.
Right now they don't know how the summer is going to shape up, and limited resupply is a thing at peak season. They want to sell that inventory it's true, but again, it's peak season-gear is going to sell anyway. Store owners ALSO want to maximize their revenue; that means not running sales until they have to. They don't see a need to get it to move more right now-the good days have just started, and things are moving like they should.

If you want peak season sales on fishing gear, look for them to start towards the end of the peak season in mid July or August. If sales are off and they need to goose their sales to make numbers, that's when they'll run a sale.
But not now. It's still way too early.

>>1020434

Do those birds work? I was looking at them in the store, but they are sort of expensive.

>>1021160

I kind of had to reteach myself how to catfish. I used to bring a half dozen rods, try to find the most comfortable place to fish, set up camp, and then wait for fish to come to me.

When I got a kayak, I started drifting around. I soon began to notice that I could paddle around for a long time without a bite, but the second I went over a deep channel, near some half sunken trees, or cast under an overhang, I would usually hook up a catfish very quickly. I'd then stop and pull 2 or more catfish from the same spot, then I would move on without a bite until I hit the next spot and then BAM! both rods are doubled over again.

I started applying it to bank fishing. I now only carry 2 or 3 rods at most (1 for catching bluegill on the fly or chucking lures for the occasional bass). If the fish are biting, you won't be able to keep up with more than 2 rods and if you aren't casting to where the fish actually are, 6+ rods aren't really going to make them bite.

>>1021162
you're a very dense person anon

>>1021162
>Why do businesses have sales for the Holiday season? Don't they know people are going to be out buying gifts anyway?

>>Why do businesses selling vehicles and furniture/fixtures have sales during tax refund season? Don't they know people will already be looking to spend their refunds on big ticket items already?

>>Why do clothing stores have sales for kids clothes in the fall? Parents will already be shopping for back to school clothes anyway.

Sometimes you have a sale when you know people are out looking for your stuff because you don't want them to go to the competition. If it's the height of fishing season and you're selling all your stuff at normal price while the other tackle shop is having a big sale, more people are going to be in the other tackle shop.

Sure, you'll sell good in the summer, but a sale- which usually just brings things to not "outrageous prices" as opposed to their usual outrageous prices- is still damned profitable if the number of people it brings into the business from competitors is much higher.

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I had a small fish on one of my sinking crankbaits and it got off like 3 feet away from me

after like 3 hours of nothing after that o managed to catch 2 fish on a jig with a gulp minnow

they're bass right?

>>1021171

Yes. That's a smallmouth bass.

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also does this mean they're post spawn in my area now?

>>1021173

Pretty sure that's a Warmouth or a hybrid of a Warmouth and some other sunfish.

>>1021173
rock bass, light colorqtion, the red eyes are a good giveaway

>>1021176
>>1021179

Could be either. They're virtually identical except for the number of spines on the anal fin. Warmouth have 3. Rock bass have like 6.

Picture is a little blurry in that regard, but it kind of looks like 3.

>>1021044
Fucking kek

>>1021162
This is the most autistic argument I've been in, but imma keep going for teh lulz

The amount of people a sale can bring in would be worth more than the amount they lose. They might lose what a couple dollars on a lure? If people are in the store they're probably going to buy more than just the stuff on sale. Also what >>1021170 said.

Again, we aren't talking about some huge store wide sale.

So, i've got large mouth bass at a local spot that's within distance, yellow perch, and american eels.
Worms are a good general catch-all bait, right? Any recommendations on kinda spots to look for?

>>1021206
bass like cover. You dont need to fish deep for them, although cover can be found deep. Yellow Perch might prefer the deep pools to school up in. American eels are tough to catch, idk about them.
Bass and yellow perch can both be caught on small lures. Both have big mouths.

>>1021210
i've caught american eels in this lake when I was a kid and just was "Hmmn this looks like a good area to cast my rod, dad" kinda fisher.
What's a good bair for bass and perch? Live? am I right in thinking that they don't like smelly, rotten crap like catfish?

>>1021206
>Worms are a good general catch-all bait, right?

Only for bluegill, smaller catfish, and the like.

The best catch-all live bait is live minnows/shiners/shad. If your state laws allow it and you want bigger fish, live or cut panfish also make superior bait for larger predatory fish up to and including catfish.

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>>1021193
here's a better pic

>>1021219
I feel kinda bad cutting up panfish and putting them out there live. I mean, it's one thing to hook them, but another to cut them up before doing it.
I think i'll look into minnows, do I need one of those bait bucket things, or can I just keep em in a regular old bucket? Sorry if im asking newbie shit.

>>1021224
Is a minnow trap a bad idea? I plan on fishing out of a lake tomorrow, and not having to stop at a bait shop would be a plus.

>>1021226
Not at all. They're easy to make.

Just be aware it could take upwards of a couple hours to get a meaningful amount of minnows, and they die pretty easy if you don't have an aerated bait bucket.

I fish a lot of live crayfish, basically the same trap but left overnight.

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>New to fishing
>1st trip caught a pike in the first 5 minutes
>buy more stuff for fishing
>7 trips later and still haven't caught anything

Is this what fishing is like?

>>1021229
Yep.

>>1021228
i've got a trawling bucket, but I lack the ability to actually go trawling.
Is filling it with minnows, and putting it in the lake itself a bad idea?
>>1021229
yes, but you should still fish, anon. Find a new spot. Get a boat! a small, bare bones aluminum rowboat is cheep on the 2ndary market and easy to resell.

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This little dude flopped will I was trying to unhook him and hooked me in the hand. Then when I set him in the water instead of swimming away he jumped up on to shore then flopped back into the water. Go get em little fiesty dude.


>>1021229
Yeah kinda, especially when you're just starting. The more you fish the more fish you'll catch, and you'll catch them more consistently. Fishing is sort of a numbers game and an art. There's not gonna be a fish everywhere you cast and they won't always want whatever lure throwing.

>>1021162
>>1021203
Yes, it's stupid to consider talking about "business" while ignoring competition. What happen if other business has better price? Putting good sale mean people will check out your place more often and buy stuff, and might even buy things that aren't on sale as well. If you never ever have good sale and another place has a lot of good sale, customers will stop checking your store completely and always go to the other place for their fishing needs.

That is assuming they are actually "losing" on items for sale. I'm sure there is profit margin even on sale items.

Also, during season, people go out fishing more often to also go through stuffs more often. They will buy more as a result. They will go to places that have good sale.


Talking about sale. I just got some two more lucky craft lure from Dick's because they have buy one get one free.

>>1021224
>I feel kinda bad cutting up panfish and putting them out there live. I mean, it's one thing to hook them, but another to cut them up before doing it.

Cutting off the head and then using them as bait causes inordinately less suffering than letting them die slowly on the end of a hook- struggling desperately for their lives before being swallowed whole and dying in the mouth of a larger fish. Cutting them up also means that 1 bluegill can bait anywhere between 2 to 5 hooks, as oppose to fishing them alive, where you have 1 per hook. Exponentially less suffering when you cut them up first.

>>I think i'll look into minnows, do I need one of those bait bucket things, or can I just keep em in a regular old bucket? Sorry if im asking newbie shit.

Depends on a variety of factors. To keep things simple though, I recommend just getting a small bait bucket (insulated if possible) and cheap areator. They also sell buckets with tiny holes in them that you can put into the water to ensure an endless supply of fresh water.

Also some species are hardier than others. Shad die unless handled with kid gloves. Minnows are a bit hardier. Bluegill are the hardiest. When you first fill up the bucket with bait, give them a couple minutes to shit and shed scales in panic (defense mechanism) then refreshen the water so it's clean and they don't choke as fast on their own filth.

You can also keep minnows in the fridge overnight. The low temperature causes them to consume less oxygen as long as it doesn't get TOO cold. They may look dead-ish when you get them out later, but if you let them slowly get back to room temperature, they should kick back to life. I sometimes do this if I buy them in the afternoon for a fishing trip the next day. That or leave them in a big areated bucket in a room with the AC cranked up.

A minnow trap works alright. The best way to collect live bait on the water is to buy and learn how to use a cast net. Cast nets are awesome.

>>1021243
Dick's employee here.

Somewhere between 75% and 90% of my customers in the fishing section are customers SOLELY because they're not willing to make the 10-20 minute drive elsewhere, because they're lazy, stupid, or both.

Hell I have one old guy that comes in every day, 7 days a week, at 1pm sharp, asking for a specific color of 1/4oz Rippin' Rap, and if we have them he will buy every single one we have (regardless of whether it's 1 or 30, and will be back the next day even if he bought 30 the day before). We do not restock daily, and I have tried to give him our freight schedule or have him call, every single time he comes in for 3 years now. There's a Bass Pro roughly 25 minutes away that *always* has them in stock, and he simply is not willing to drive that far (and instead burns probably $100+ in gas a week driving to my store). He has not once ever bought a product other than those Rippin' Raps from us. He has also refused to let me order them for him via our AOS system because he doesn't trust credit cards, even though I have told him we can get him an anonymous gift card with cash then use it (he insists that somehow someone will steal his credit card info even if we don't use his credit card for anything and I'm not even actually sure he has one).

This is the level of retardation consumerism has stooped to in modern times.

>>1021229
>>1021237
To add to what I was saying, if you aren't having fun or you find yourself getting frustrated when you aren't catching something then stop fishing. It's better to take a little break than be frustrated the whole time you're out. Also, remember to change up what you're doing. I know I'm bad about keeping one lure tied on and only using that for a long time.

>>1021243
>Talking about sale. I just got some two more lucky craft lure from Dick's because they have buy one get one free.

Gander Mountain is having a going out of business sale for weeks and they STILL don't have any deal this good at either of the stores I've been to. It's ridiculous.

>>1021162
I take those Bass Pro surveys on the reciepts a lot because I'm bored and want to win that $500 survey.

I always write in the comments that they should have more sales. Whenever I go to Bass Pro, I only buy the stuff I need because everything is full price all the time. When I go to Dick's, I might only want to spend $30 on a couple lures but then I see a reel on sale for 30% off and have to grab it, then I need a rod and pay full price for the rod and some line too. So I'm still buying the couple original lures I wanted, and they might not be making any profit on the reel on sale, but then they make a bunch when I buy the rod and line at full price.

Economics and business sense. Any big stuff that Bass Pro carries and Dick's doesn't, I would rather just order it online.

>>1021250
>Somewhere between 75% and 90% of my customers in the fishing section are customers SOLELY because they're not willing to make the 10-20 minute drive elsewhere, because they're lazy, stupid, or both.

Unless you're working at the other stores, you really don't know how much they're buying at those stores. Or online.

>>This is the level of retardation consumerism has stooped to in modern times.

Surely you understand that a person buying all the stock of a single item at a single store and refusing to order in bulk/online at the same time every single day is not really a standard case. That's not indicative of consumerism. That's indicative of his particular idiocy. Unless he's running some kind of con and there's a method to his madness- although I can't see what it is.

>>1021257

That's why you're still a shore pleb. You have no self control.

>>1021250
>>1021258
Don't be hard on the old guy. He probably just likes it there. I've known old folks like that from my work in retail.

>>1021258
No, he fishes the same spot I fish. He's a shit fisherman trying to run a sinking lipless in a county park pond that's AT ITS DEEPEST ~7 feet, full of rocks/weeds/downed trees, and he loses them constantly.

I have watched him fish. He will lose a Rippin' Rap about once every 10 minutes. It's literally all he fishes. And yeah, he does occasionally catch a fish with it. And when he runs out, he leaves instead of fishing a different lure. There's probably close to 500 of his Rippin' Raps in this ~4 acre pond/lake now.
>am now beginning to wonder if he doesn't have OCD or autism or something.

I have worked at the other stores before (Sports Authority then Bass Pro then Gander briefly, then Dick's). I get the same story from the regular customers all the fucking time--"I'm glad you have X, I'm not willing to drive to [other store]" or "No, I don't care if [other store in chain 10 minutes away] has it, I'll order it online, not willing to drive that far". Same was true at all the previous stores--most of the regular customers are regulars because it's close to their house. Bass Pro wasn't as severe as it's already pretty far away from most housing areas, but still noticeable.

This may be a phenomenon of living in a major metro area (St. Louis), but I've seen it at every store I worked at and all of my coworkers have noticed it as well.
>>1021260
I'm sure that's part of it, he'll spend 30-40 minutes in there telling stories to any employee he can corner before asking about his Rippin' Raps.

Sad part is, I said old but he's probably mid-50's.

>>1021261

Guy is definitely a little off. But he apparently has enough time and money to blow it all buying lures and fishing all day.

So his life must not be all bad.

>>1021261
That's just sad, man. Pity him. Don't be angry at him.

>>1021263
I would if he wasn't an outright pest.

I'm now curious as to what he drives. He doesn't wear a wedding ring and is never in "nice" clothes (wrangler jeans and a cotton, walmart-tier polo) but his clothes are clean and he always has a couple hundred in cash on him. Kinda wonder if he isn't retired military, you can't swing a dead catfish around here and not hit 3 cars with an EGA in the back window, seems like STL is where Marines come to die.
>betting it's either a new high-end luxury SUV or a banged up early-90's econobox
His personality just doesn't equate to a sensible vehicle.

>>1021261

You live in STL? You wanna go fishing some time?

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Help me, I keep trying to reel it in but it always snaps back to open what do I'm about to snap the rod.

>>1021289

Gonna need to replace some parts in the bail. Look up the manual in pdf for disassembly/parts info form and search online for parts.

Unless you want to keep it for sentimental reasons, then chuck it and get a new one.

>>1021297
I literally just bought it. Please help me. My son is sad because he thinks he broke it since I can't get it to work for him.

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>>1021261

Sounds like he has autism and OCD. My cousin has a strong case of ass-burgers and acts kinda the same way. Don't be too hard on him, if anything he should have a social worker or a family member to help him.

>>1021289
Am I correct in what I see-you have the fishing line going OVER the bail?

The fishing line needs to go UNDER the bail in order for the reel to work properly.

Take out the spool, open the bail, then put the spool back into the reel, so that when the bail is closed the line feeds under it.

>>1021303
What is your problem?

>>1021306
Ok, is there a standard way for taking out a spool? Also thank you so much.

>>1021302
>I literally just bought it.

Then take it back for a refund/replacement.

>> My son is sad because he thinks he broke it since I can't get it to work for him.

Explain to him that he didn't break it and that mechanical objects breaking happens sometimes. When they do, you fix them or replace them.

>>1021289
>>1021306
You don't have to take off the spool. The bail in your pic is open. Close it then run the line over the guide thingy.

>>1021317
It just pops back off? Also I try to reel it in and it just flips to open. It's a Zebco® 33 TELECAST™ if anyone knows anything about those.

>>1021324
>It just pops back off
What does?

>Also I try to reel it in and it just flips to open.

Are you sure you aren't confused about which way is open and closed? The way the bail is in your pic is open. The line needs to be on the other side of the guide.

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>>1021324
kekd so hard.....

..twist the thing on the top of the spool and pull the spool off. thread the spool through the open bail and place spool back into position to tighten..the line roller goes on top of the actual line.

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>>1021324
>>1021328
Here's what your line should look like with a closed bail

>>1021335
is that a floogur

>>1021335
Thank you so much oh shit, IT WORKS.

Thank you very very much.

>>1021342

Yes. They're very good reels. Send me your credit card information and I can get you one for very cheap.

>>1021347
i have a president XT and it looks similar but not the same as that

>>1021229
I fished for about a month and a half and the first time I caught a fish was yesterday

I caught 4 total in the last 2 days

water temp plays a huge role

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Thoughts on these bobbers that you fill with water? I don't even know what they call them, but they make a big splash when they hit the water.

>>1021377
and I mean basically every day since mid april

>>1021259
True

>>1021342
Abu Orra S or somethin. Does look like the President XT tho.

>>1021171
thats a smallmouth bass
>>1021173
>>1021176
thats a rock bass, its not really a bass though
>>1021229
yeah. just keep fishing
>>1021289
you've got the bail open, and the line over the wrong side of it
>>1021312
see the little nut thingy over the top of the spool? that's your drag knob, but if you just unscrew it, eventually it will just pull right off, then the spool will slide off.
you dont have to though., nip the line (you would have to do that either way) then just run it under the bail instead of over. however you should make sure the drag is set though, otherwise if he hooks a big fish it will just snap the line.
see how the spinning reel is on this picture (the bail is perpendicular to the reel and the line is going under it?) thats how you want it.

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>>1021469
forgot pic
>>1021380
they're a float bubble, they are for using flies with spinning gear. i'd honestly rather smash my hands with a hammer, go to the hospital, then re teach myself how to cast a fly rod than go back to those

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>>1021470
Kid, I never know what your problem is, but I've been fly fishing with a spinning reel and rod for decades after tossing out my fly rod. I won't go back to a fly rod. They are useless in underbrush and forest waterways, even with a boat 95% of the time there's no room.

I've also never used >>1021380

>>1021346
No worries anon. Catch some fish.

>>1021342
It's a Abu Orra S, but also what >>1021347 said.

I'm taking a noob fishing today, how should I tug his rod up?

bobber sinker and worm?

>>1021497
rig

>>1021497

Get him started by catching panfish with worms on size 8 or smaller cricket hooks. You can do that shit all day.

Then bait those panfish under a bobber or bottom rig and catch a couple of bass or catfish.

>>1021285
Fuck yeah. Been looking for someone to fish with

>>1021499
can't use live bait here :(

>>1021497
>how should I tug his rod up?
Gently but rapidly. Look him in the eyes as you do it.

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Gf and I nabbed some fish yesterday. Her biggest ever, and then her biggest ever, and my first smallmouth ever

>>1021499

Just curious, where is "here"?

>>1021505
Jigheads and small curly tail grubs if you can't use live bait. Otherwise a small Rooster Tail or Rapala is a good choice if you are willing to lose it when he snags something.

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>>1021520
About a 4 pounder on a 3" curlytail grub. I was impressed

>>1021511
Kek

>>1021497
Yes.
Maybe keep something easy to fish like a small beetle spin or rooster tail rigged up on another pole too, just in case the fish aren't hitting the worms/crickets/etc as much as the lure.
The goal is for them to have fun and catch fish. Do what you can to help make that happen.

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>>1021519
where ya from anon?

>>1021503

Where do you usually fish and when? I usually hit up the Busch lakes but not in the summer. Too many live bait plebs

>>1021649
Normally county parks. Spent Sunday morning catching carp in Carondelet, spent all day Saturday *not* catching bass at Carondelet. I live at the southern tip of south county. I work retail so I'm sporadically available pretty much any time during the week, or any time on Monday (I don't ever work Mondays) assuming I'm not golfing.

>>1021653
whoops got that a little off.
>spent Saturday morning catching carp, fished all day Friday for nothing but a bullfrog.

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>>1021511
ohh my siides!

>>1021653

Oh sweet I live in Affton. I haven't caught jack shit in Carondelet. I've heard Suson Park is good for bass. I also know a guy that lives on a stocked pond. All the bass are -3 lbs but they're fun with an ultralight and they're easy to get a bite from.

I'm a little booked this wkend but I will probably be able to do something next weekend or maybe in the afternoons during a weekday.

>>1021658

How do you catch carp btw?

>>1021664
Sounds good.

Hit me up at [email protected], we'll figure something out.

The easy but not-as-productive way is bobber+split shot+#4 baitholder and commercially prepared carp bait, which is what I was using Saturday. The more productive method is basically a catfish slip-sinker rig with a #4-#1 circle hook packed with sweet corn, tightlined.

I've also caught them with a weighted bobber, no sinker, and orange peel hooked on a small (#8) plain-shank when they're busting on the top, or you could do similarly with a fly rod and no bobber.

>>1021669

Cool man, definitely will email you. I work flexible hours at the NGA so I should probably be able to work something out for next week; Monday after next at the latest.

>>1021670
>I work at the NGA
how the fuck did you manage that? P. cool.

>>1021664
Oh also, there are nice bass in Suson but it's so ridiculously heavily fished you need to really know what you're doing to get any interest from them.

It's also crowded af and the geese are assholes.

>>1021648
About 30 minutes east of Gettysburg, PA

>>1021380
Can be great for mackerel l fishing on a pier in Florida.

>>1021666

Most effective way is to tie a hair rig and bait it with a floating boilie and fish it on a bottom slip sinker set up. Corn is often used as well.

Slightly less effective way is to set up any bottom rig and bait it with a boilie or corn.

You'll also occasionally hook one while targeting catfish. They'll eat gizzards and prepared baits occasionally.

Those ways in addition to snagging (big treble hook with a weight and pulling it over them to hook them in the back/sides) and bowfishing are the most popular ways of taking carp.

>>1021868
Fuck looks like you're gonna have a good night

>>1021868
>>1021871
A head sucking good time.

I've been bass fishing spinning reels the past 3 years, but just recently I bought an Abu Garcia baitcaster, and HOLY FUCK is this annoying. I get so much backlash, but I know it's my fault and not the reels. I said fuck it and put my breaking system and spool tension on maximum and slowly working down the settings till I'm getting decent casts without backlash. I also use a lot of minnow swimbaits, crankbaits, and spinners. Any advice guys?

>>1021899
Also, should I use mono, braid, or fluro? I currently use 12lb Mono

>>1019705
I'm a Potomac fag

>>1021899
spool out just enough to practice casting then put a piece of tape across the rest. that way it'll stop more from coming out so you only have to deal with a little bit of backlash while you figure it out. If it happens while you're on the water, just do a hail mary cast to pull all the backlashed shit out and then keep it tight while you reel in to clean it up.

besides that, just get better at using your thumb as a brake.

Someone pls gib me a retards guide on how to go catfishing in ontario, I'm on Georgian bay if that matters

>>1021909
Imma try that, I've been using the thumb trick to get rid of backlash 75% of the time. Thanks for the advice.

>>1021899
If you feel like it going up to a heavier mono can help. So will using heavier lures. You'll get it eventually. Focus on being smooth more than anything else.

Mono is much more forgiving than braid or flouro imo. Braid is easier to backlash, but it's super forgiving when you're undoing it. Half the time you can just yank on the line and pull out the nest.

Avoid flouro until you're comfortable.

>>1021920
I throw a lot of semi heavy lures, if it's too light I'll just pop on a bullet weight or something

Ohh sheet, bread finally in the oven

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>>1021925
>>1021925
>>1021925
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>>1021924
You got a girl pregnant? Grats, or sorry for your loss.

>>1021659
You sicken me