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Find a flaw.

>>1018232
That fish will never get the taste of cock out of its mouth.

>>1017664
Sometimes they swallow the hook or get hooked kinda sideways, so there's blood occasionally. As far as the taste, in my opinion, speckled trout are some of the best eating fish you can catch. We always filet them and pan fry or meuniere. They always taste clean.

>>1018240
>not Sprayed Grass™

>>1018240
That scar for one.

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>>1018244
You mean the seam? Fish love the seam, trust me.

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When I'm joining the shad research team they rarely get more than two

I caught 7 on crappie jigs + curly tail grubs.

Y'all need to accept these as best lure

>>1018240
It's not watermelon red.

>>1018240
No on your hand.


What is that black thing on the tip? >>1018240

>>1018253
I got that pic from google. But I'm pretty sure the black thing is a rubber stopper that keeps the weight from sliding up the line. I don't use one personally, because I think it defeats the purpose of Texas rigging. The action of the weight sliding up and down the line as you jig it is what makes the rig so effective in my opinion.

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Black Drum from the Copano Bay trip mentioned in last thread

>>1018258
>But I'm pretty sure the black thing is a rubber stopper that keeps the weight from sliding up the line.

Hmmm maybe, just seems like an odd think to do.

Anyways are you done with school now or what?

>>1018261
wait a minute was there another tripfag with this name or something? i just started using this 5 minutes ago

>>1018259
>Head on.

Other wise nice.

>>1018262
No I just thought you where that one anon that was talking about school work.

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>>1018259
Rat red from the same trip. Just barely a keeper but the small ones taste better.

>>1018267
Ah I see, not me. I'm a carpenter, I don't do none of that schoolin' junk.

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>>1018240
>not a Christie Critter

unrelated but where can i get a decent fidget spinner

i spent $6 on this one and its shit

Any PA anglers around? Preferably eastern pa

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>>1018273
They tried, but unfortunately you can't improve upon perfection.

>>1018268
>Copano Bay

That does not look 20 inches.

>>1018269
Well shit fuck my drunk brown eye, I fucked up.

>>1018268
Wait a second...

>Zoom
>Enhance

>>>/trash/

Today it was warm enough for no waders, went with old shoes and socks.

Any way around pebbles getting into your shoes? I suppose wearing something like sandals.

So I go fishing at the same spot every day for an hour or two at lunch.

Always see a ton of fish jump but don't catch anything, everyone else there just throws out carp and catfish bait and wait but thats boring so I've been trying topwaters but nada.

Any tips? It's an outlet creek off lake ontario so lots of fish and what not of all types.

>>1018285
As a sandal fag myself I can confirm that this does not stop the rocks. You just have too get used to them.

>>1018278
They work better for me.

Being cheaper is a nice bonus too.
>Gary Yamamoto will never make a lizard
Fug

>>1018287
those fish jumping could be carp. They wont hit topwater lures really. Ive had carp hit lures like lil grubs and tubes before if you're after them but dont want to sit and wait. You need to be pretty slow with the lures however and ride them on the bottom.
Do that and you'll get other fish like bass before a carp anyways.

Lil minnows jump too. Today I saw like 5 lil minnows chasing each other jumping ontop of the water. Either that or running away from a bigger fish.

>>1018287
The fish jumping are probably carp is the thing.

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>>1018232
What else does my hardbait box need?

I added the Wiggle Warts, a Tiny Torpedo, a Jitterbug, and the Rebel Minnows since I last asked this question.

>>1018294
Spinners if they qualify. Id suggest one big salt plug too.

>>1018294
Am I the only one that puts each lure in its own section?

>>1018300
>>1018299
where do i get a good spinner

>>1018294
Silver or white lipless

Some type of popping topwater

Larger suspending lure

Rapala Shad Rap shad

>>1018300
I would if I boat fished and could use a 6-7 tray bag, but I walk banks and use 3 trays and a small bait binder in a 4 tray bag

>>1018303
obligatory mepps suggestion.

But I have good action with a black and gold dotted panther martin.
I use a small spinner, since i use them when im in a river or stream.

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>>1018300
I used to but then I ran out of space and didn't want to keep buying more boxes.


This will be my last post untill I'm back since no cellular internets in leaf land. Wish me luck lads. I'll be back with pics, hopefully some new oc dinkposts

>>1018310
the hell am i looking at?
I guess frog lures really do catch trout

>>1018299
I have a spinners and swimbaits box that's basically nothing but Beetlespins, those little Roadrunner Buffet Rigs, like 3 inlines, 2 chatterbait heads, and a Little George.

>>1018313
How the fuck are you supposed to fish those buffet rigs? Like a spinnerbait?

>>1018310
>thought you was hard mofugga
>you came to the wrong neighborhood nigga now u getting choked out
>woooooorldstaaaaaaar

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>>1018310
>>1018316

Can somebody apply this effect to that image?

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>>1018278
Strike King™ actually did improve on the Zoom™ Brush Hogs. You should try em.

>>1018300
Once you get a job, you will eventually buy more hardbaits and run out of room.

>>1018303
Mepps™ a best inline spinner

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>>1018317

>>1018320
>Have job
>Not buying more boxes

Stoping buying coffe grill shit.

>>1018320
>Strike King™ actually did improve on the Zoom™ Brush Hogs. You should try em.

Sure, I'll give em a shot. Low expectations, though. I got some Cabin Creek brushhog knockoffs in an MTB a few months ago and I was amazed at how much less effective they were while essentially being the exact same thing.

>>1018321
kek

>>1018291
ive seen non carp jump a foot in the air though.

its not like im scanning the lake, I hear the splash they're so big but don't know how on earth to get one of the good fish.

been throwing everything i can think of decent sized. hard, soft, a leech, plastic worm, etc

>>1018320
Second mepps! I also like rooster tails. Nice frogs. I'm down to one. Apparently my brother cleaned my other tackle box out down at my parents house and they were lost to oblivion. Gotta hit dicks this weekend

>>1018326
what are these non carp? Bass? Top water should work for them then. It might be your technique if you're not drawing strikes. Or you're not casting in the right spots.

>>1018303
LOL

i meant fidget spinner

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>>1018283
You are right... my fault for trusting knowledge graph. I'm out of state

>>1018333
Checked

Also no idea my wife bought it and I do not realy use it except when driving when I spin it on the gear shifter.

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>>1018337
Been there done that.

But...that post was about pic related.

>>1018339
I eat vienna sausages and filet mignon with equal relish. A time and place for everything.

>>1018230
Interdasting. I wasn't sure how deep it got or how close the fish would be to shore.

>>1018240
It's not a lizard

>>1018310
Good luck homie

>>1018343
Saw multiple people gigging flounder with lanterns and many gigging charters advertised. No problem catching trout and drum in kayaks/wading

>>1018342
>A time and place for everything.

Then that should have been a Shiner or if going cheap a Lone Star. Do not go fishing my waters while swilling that ATX hipster piss.

>>1018347
Were you closer to Rockport or Bayside?

>>1018343
>It's not a lizard
That's why its so great. It could be a lizard, or it could be a worm. Maybe its a crawfish? I don't know, nobody knows. Not even the fish know, all they know is that it drives them crazy and they want it NOW.

>>1018349
We had Lone Star in the ice chest. Don't worry

>>1018355
Near Bayside.

>>1018322
I already carry my big tackle bag around plus the smaller bag full of soft baits.

And I'm kinda done with her. Too much for me. Still text her a little bit but told her I'm out until she figures out what she wants. Been talkin to this Jamaican girl who is way too into me but I don't even think I really like.

>>1018323
I mean they're basically the same but I have done well with the Strike King ones too. The Strike King KVD Swimmin Caffeine Shads are probably my favorite paddle tail of any brand.

>>1018330
I don't even use those hollow body frogs much. Also topwater seems to be so limited here. I was running a popper for like 10min today and nothin went for it.

>>1018333
Checked.

Lots of 7-11's around here sell them.

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>>1018240
>using plastic bait

>>1018243
my local walmart and academy never have brush hogs in sprayed grass. i have to settle for scrub colors like watermelon red and green pumpkin.

>>1018358
Lizards > Brush Hogs

Fite mi

>>1018360
Thanks anon. I'll stop by next time I go to the coast and try to find some.

>>1018365
At least get some Junebug. Dick's has Sprayed Grass. Bass Pro and Gander Mtn had em too. Idk why but that color works so well for me. It's natural enough for clear water but has some purple and blue and will work in more murky water too. I think I have lizards, baby brush hogs, finesse worms, and trick worms all in that color.

>>1018364
I prefer live bait. But getting good with plastic makes you fish more often

>>1018287
Bing a net.
Catch carp as they are jumping.

>>1018276
My boi what county?

i have some old-ass zoom lizards that feel really stiff and tough. i started rubbing one and a shitload of salt came out of it.

think i can still use them?

>>1018398
Sure.

Just won't be ideal.

water temps went up from ~47 to 61 in just a few days

dafuq

>>1018408
THE POWER OF THE SUN yo.

Shit's hot.

In other news, jumped on that Dick's flash sale for the Abu Veritas 2 rods. Grabbed a 7'6" MH baitcaster and another (this is now my 4th) Okuma Stratus V reel, as well as a couple packs of Yum swimbaits and some VMC dropshot hooks.

All for under $100. Hooray employee disccount.

>>1018268
Scum Buckethead detected
>>1018312
Sometimes if you rub a frog on it's sternum they'll clamp down with their arms. With bigass bullfrogs you can break sticks and shit

>>1018451
debatably it is better to keep the small ones. i mean, think about it, if you have a lake, and you only kill fish that grow to be big, but the small ones survive, the entire population is going to shrink, because the dink gene will be successful. however if you only keep medium fish, the dinks have time to grow, but then the adult dinks get harvested, and the genes for big fish are progressed through the gene pool. im not going to comment on weather or not what he did was legal, or if "tasting better" was the only motive, but it is something to consider

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Buzz bait feesh

>>1018479
nice bigmouth bowfin

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>>1018263
>tossing away the best part of the fish
>the cheek

>>1018275
buy the $12 and up spinners. abec7's or better. we have a dozen different versions so far.. look out for the ones that have bearings on the ends those arent so gud

>>1018279
that is certainly not 20....

>>1018285
waterproof socks and sandals.

>>1018300
yes..pro bass fishermen dont even do it.

>>1018303
Thailand

>>1018479
nice fish bruh

>>1018459
sometimes its better to cull a larger fish once in a while to spice up a stagnant gene pool.
>inb4
iftheygotthatbigtheyneedtopassonthemgenes.gif

>>1018484
>sometimes its better to cull a larger fish once in a while to spice up a stagnant gene pool
like i said, its debatable, and like 99% of everything else, its not black and white, there are grey areas and exceptions to letting big ones go. we could sit here for hours listing off the pros and cons of each

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My first fish caught fly-fishing, last weekend. On my uncle's drift boat. Really happy with it.

>>1018495
i'd be really happy with that too, nice fish anon

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>>1018495
cool fish bro.
nailed this on a spin n glo and plastic worm while walking the bank because my uncle doesnt have a drift boat. he's an alcoholic dying from diabetes and just got his toes cut off.

>>1018300

Only for the more expensive, large, or favorite lures like my suicide duck or the Lucky Craft lures.

>>1018246
>all those watermelon colors

These lures are for the Black Bass right?

>>1018501
>he's an alcoholic dying from diabetes and just got his toes cut off.

That poor fish.

>>1018246
I gotta look for that Sour Grape

>tfw impossible day at work today
Even if I bust my ass all dat, I might not get all this done so maybe I will just take my time and bring a couple back.

>>1018522
Pretty much

i couldn't find sweetcorn but i found peaches and cream corn

think that will be sweet enough?

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>>1018479
Catching big bass on a BB
>Mein Neger
>>1018489
Fact of the matter is that bastard ignored the rules and regulations. So he's no better than a dirty buckethead that ruin our waters on the daily

>>1018232
Me on the left

>>1018612
See >>1018241

How does it taste?

>>1018616
Like a refreshing can of Pepsi Cola™ !

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>>1018484
>>1018481
>>1018601
Thanks friends. I got a smaller dude too, but couldn't get a good pic

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>>1018268
>tfw u live in new jesey, but not near the coast, so there isn't a single fish to catch that is safe to eat

>>1018626
If you live in New Jersey you live near the coast my homie

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a couple of threads ago i mentioned an idiot fly fishing in my pond with regular lures, and leaving lures snagged all over the fucking place that were easy to retrieve.
i returned to the spot yesterday, and apparently, this fuck is now just cutting lures that fail to catch a fish and leaving them, and a good 10 feet of green monofiliment string on the ground

now i'm less happy to get free gear than i am pissed about this guy littering, and the next time I see him I'm giving him the business.

Got an ugly stik gx2 mh 7 spinning combo. Gonna use it for some salt water beach and bay fishing.

What line test should I use?

Will 7 foot be fine?

How hard do I wash it after fishing. Ugly stik site says it's fresh and salt water.

>>1018644
You'll need to rinse it if you fish in salt water.

Don't sit there and blast the reel straight with the hose, that drives sand and shit into the reel body and strips off your lubricating oil. Mist it and at least shake but preferably wipe it dry.

>>1018647
Do I disassemble the reel?

Can I do that without stripping line?

Also what weight line do yiu recommend? I'm gonna have dicks spool it for me.

>>1018648
I use 15 lb braid but before that 10-12 lb mono did me well. You don't really need to take it apart, I'll usually just dump a bottle of water over the reel after I'm done fishing for the day. Make sure to lube it every couple of trips.

>>1018648
No, don't disassemble or de-line the reel. Just either use a misting nozzle on your sink/shower/garden hose or pour water from a glass/bottle over it.

Lube it every few trips.

>>1018658
>Lube it every few trips.
i have a lot of chocolate flavor ky jelly, would that work?

>>1018660
Honestly, it probably would.

Don't do it though, unless you want all your fishing shit to smell like chocolate flavored ass.

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>>1018665
you under estimate my affinity for chocolate flavored ass

>>1018388
Northampton. You?

>>1018673
Ah, eastern as in way east. York county here

>>1018666
>Satan Trips
>DSP
>Kek

>>1018630
Don't do that.
He is choosing to part with his money in the stupidest way possible, by just leaving it lying on the ground.

Let him.

Just keep picking up the $40 worth of lures he keeps leaving behind every time he goes to the lake. He's choosing to fill your tackle box instead of his own, why would you stop him?

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>>1018648
tighten the reels
drag down BEFORE you rinse it.

>>1018665
>chocolate flavored ass
>mah nigga

>>1018660
No. KY is water soluble.
Better to use Vaseline instead.
And no, I'm not kidding.
Vaseline is fucking magic in fishing reels and bolt action rifles alike. $2 worth will last you a fucking lifetime.

>>1018688
Yeah haha. If you have a burner email drop it. I'll shoot you an email. I have weekends off, I'm down to travel for fishing

bought a second fishing rod...

a combo rod (quantum five-o) for my older brother to use when I take him out fishing

$40 off on it too so I couldn't pass it up

I've got a feeling that the eyes on it might break tho...

>>1018644
Don't rinse it at all. The sooner the reel fails, the sooner you will have an excuse to buy something that isn't entirely made of plastic.

>>1018724
>plastic can't corrode
>check mate Bepis

Lololol all the sunfish started spawning yesterday when it was 85 degrees. Now we got hit with a massive cold front. Like 40 degrees and rainy. All those eggs probably gonna die...
Got to love Chicago weather

>>1018717
That I don't but I frequent here quite often so if you're ever in the York area make a post and maybe we can fish some time.

>>1018726
Kek. But any metal parts inside will hopefully turn to dust real quick and the plastic holding it all together will get brittle from the salt and sun and you won't be able to thread any screws or bolts into it.

>>1018728
Fuck that place. I can't stand the shit. Living close to the ocean, the weather is so steady. A warm front means 2F or 3F higher if you are close to the ocean and a really cold front is like -10F at night and -5F in the day. 75F and sunny all winter, 85F and sunny with a 40% chance of an afternoon T-storm in the summer.

>>1018734
Sounds good York anon

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>>1018758
Based

On another note, what do you guys think of baits with chartreuse tips? Effective? Difference maker?

>>1018760
Ive never once had success with them. Seems to me that the areas i fish produce better with just a solid color vs solid with Chartreuse.

The sunfish will harass the absolute shit out of it though

>>1018459

Big fish prey more on small fish than medium or small fish do, so taking them out leaves fewer predators for young fish.

>>1018789
Bass (lmb, smb, rockbass) will attempt to eat things up to half their size on a regular basis. Sometimes larger (explains why I keep catching 3-4" dinks on 4" Rapalas or full-size spinnerbaits).

There needs to be a massive predation of the big fish to make much of a difference on small-fish survivability.

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>>1018712
I don't know how I feel about this. Vaseline will melt and either not lube properly or drip and get your hands disgusting and greasy with shit you can't rinse off in the water. You should really use some sort of specially made reel/gear grease.

>>1018814
I'm not sure if they're trying to eat it so much as they're just trying to kill it and take it out of the gene pool/competition. I have no idea if that is true or not but I read something about it a few years ago and it makes sense so I'll take it.

>>1018818
The number of times I've had a 5" swimbait outright swallowed and gut-hooked by 1.5-2lb bass says otherwise. They do try to eat them, whether or not that was their primary intent (why kill and then not eat it?).

>>1018627
Not him but also from jew Jersey and often underestimate how fortunate we are to be next to the coast. I'm like Pepsi not enjoying the salt life despite being in such a great location for it.

>>1018835
I'm going to be hitting the hook in jersey after memorial day for fluke. I fish the paulinskill river in Warren county all the time in jersey

>>1018818
it doesn't need to be a special grease just get grease made for anything mechanical

So, has anyone legitimately hooked a bullfrog before?

I had a big fat fucker smash a black topwater popper today well away from the shore. They're literally a week out of season, or I'd be having frog legs for dinner :(

So I went out to get creek chub on fly just for the hell of it before it rained, and I see two carp feeding in a slow flat. So I think "damn that will be a hell of a fight on my 4 weight"
A long way from the bank I frantically get my rod ready and pick a fly before sneaking up to the bank. Just as im getting ready to casy, the sky opens up, and the fish disappear
I was so annoyed

>1018597
Cream corn wont stay on the hook and neither will peaches. Buy any canned or frozen corn off the cob that is still whole, thaw it or drain it, then dump in a hand full of sugar

>1018859
Fucc
>>1018597
>>1018859 *

>>1018859
it's called peaches and cream corn but it's actually whole kernel 2 color

it says super sweet on the ingredients list

>>1018866
It doesn't necessarily need to be sweetened. I've caught a lot of carp on grape tomatoes of all things.

>>1018866
Ohhhh
That will be fine, but consider opening and draining it the night before, pouring in the sugar, than letting it sit over night before draining again before fishing in the morning. I think the sweetness helps but that's just me

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Catches of the day: first two garfish of the year and another decent sized trout from the same spot as the trouts from last week.

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>>1018922
Heres a better pic of one of the garfish.

>>1018923
Do you mean hound fish? That's A Salt Water fish

>>1018928
It's this fish here: https://en.wikipedia org/wiki/Garfish

I know it's what you americans call garfish, but when europeans refer to gar, these are it.

They travel from the meditarranean sea to arrive on the northern european coast mid to late april every year, then they lave again when water gets too cold for them.

>>1018930
I know it's not* what..

>>1018707
>why would you stop him?
he's also leaving empty boxes and thousands of yards of tangled line
theres are 4 dumpsters near the lake
he has no excuse

>>1018930
>and the bones are green.

That is metal as fuck.

>>1018710
OC newport bay? Shit, where is a good spot to park and access from shore to fish there? I've been looking for a bay jetty place to fish in case the condition on surf is shit.

I checked out Alamitos Bay but it is dirty, digusting, and full of hobo camp. I didn't get much luck at the Bolsa Chica inlet last time neither and $20 for a day parking is too damn much.

>>1018232
Anyone here own a Perception Pescador? How is it as a starter kayak, I ask because its go a $150 discount at Academy.

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Should I but this for my ugly stick rod?

I live in the midwestern US and solely fish for bass with bait hook + worm. Mostly still fishing in stagnant pools.

>>1018981

Fucking no.

Just get a $25-40 spinning reel or something.

>>1018983
What the fuck difference does it make whether you use a closed or open spinner

>>1018985

Because an open spinner in that price point is going to be superior in every way to that Walmart childrens reel.

If you want to buy shitty trash though by all means, go ahead, just don't come here looking for validation and act like a cunt when you don't get it.

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Fuck you all, can I fish now?

>>1018846
You're overthinking this.
You do know what the official lube spec for Enfield rifles in WWI was, don't you?
>100% pure petrolatum
aka Vaseline.
It's just grease.
The only difference is that this grease doesn't have any other toxic bits in it so you can put it on your body.
As for the special space magic chemicals that you don't know how they work, you don't need them for something as low-performance as a fishing reel.
All you need from your grease is two things
>is oily enough to keep your reel's gears lubricated
>doesn't mix with water

Literally ANY grease will do that, including Vaseline. It'll work, I promise. I've done it, and my reels didn't blow up.

>>1018992

I don't know, can you?

>>1018981
Yes.
It will work great, and you will trigger all of the spinning fags at the same time.
Do it.

>>1018991
Holy shit you sound like a sensitive bitter virgin.

>>1018999

Tell yourself whatever you want to soothe your sensitive jimmies, you know I was right and no ad hominem will ever change that.

>>1018999
Welcome to a fishing general.

>tfw parts for my 40yo Daiwa spincasting reel just came in today.
>Now I can successfully troll autistic spinningfags in fishing general threads for decades to come.

>>1018760
They work, but this >>1018762

You gotta run them in areas without lots of bluegill because they love to grab at the tip. Makes you set the hook on every cast and think you missed a bass.

>>1018992
I hope you strapped it tight so it doesn't fall off with the car upside down like that.

Anyway good job.

>>1019000
Literally the only one rustled here is you.
And you are quite rustled.
In fact, it sounds like you need to slow down and simplify your life.
Like fishing with a Zebco-that's simple. You'll be stress-free in no time.

>>1018950
It looks pretty interesting, ill try to remember posting a pic once Ive cooked them.

>>1019005

>Literally can't refute me.
>Ad hominems.
>Resorts to "u mad bro"

Good one anon.

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Whats the best spincaster for a spincasting noob?

>Daiwa BG10 / 13 / 15
>Daiwa SS700 / 1300

Opinions on these reels?

>>1019015
You didn't make any claims to refute.
You just claimed superiority without any evidence. The burden of proof is on you, and you haven't provided any.
So lacking any evidence, all your babbling just amounts to:
>NOOOO REEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
Can't refute temper tantrums, kid.

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>>1019024

BG 10 pic related.

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does any one else here like seducing morbidly obese black women, convincing them to come fishing with you at night, then pushing them out of the boat and ejaculating on them as they drown?

pic is unrelated, but was very tasty

>>1019018
Daiwa silvercast or goldcast.
Not as available as a zebco, but much better quality.

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>>1019024

SS700 pic related.

>>1019034
We like to have our edges on our fillet knives instead.

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>>1019034
This chubby jamaican girl was getting way too into me and calling me like 5 times a day. She was kinda boring tbqhwy. So I told her not to get her expectations too high since I wasn't sure when I would reveal that I'm a sex offender. She hasn't called me since and I'm relieved.

She seemed too into it, I didn't want to hurt her feelings by telling her she bores me and I'm not really into black girls. So I made her hate me instead and it feels much better.

>>1019031

Ok, fine.

At the same price point as that Zebco reel, a well chosen open spinning reel will offer.

>Better casting.
>Smoother action.
>Lower weight.

It will also likely be

>Less autistic
>Less bubble pack
>More aesthetic

>>1019034
What the fuck is with that faggot glove?

And yeah, I seduce them and then use them for cut bait

>>1019045
I agree with everything else but
>open spinning real
>More aesthetic

>>1019046
you leave finger prints without a glove, you silly goose

>>1019040
100% honest here; you probably avoided some sort of STD.

>>1019048
That is a valid point.

>>1019045
Also higher gear ratios, better gears, and more drag.

>>1019050
yeah, but now she's going to use voodoo to turn him into a zombie

>>1019053
>>1019047
>>1019045

Well >>1019031 faggot, have any refutations for me now or do you still want to be a retard?

I'm literally trying to help you and you're being a pedantic little shit about it.

>>1019048
>Not having your fingerprints surgically removed

>>1019057
Well to be fair the Zebco does have a few things to add to the pro column.

>Makes a nifty ringing noise
>Easier to insert into anus
>Nobody will want to barrow it
>30% less chance of a basketball American stealing it

>>1019061
They grow back.

>>1019054
>HIV
>zombie
I mean it's pretty much the same

>>1019062
I do miss that old spincaster ringing noise

>>1018959

12 footer? Snag that shit up fast. It's an excellent starter kayak.

>>1019061
I went to school with a schizo kid who busted open some batteries and tried to burn them off that way.

It didn't work.

>>1019018

Im a huge fan of the Shimano IX series. 10 to 15 bucks and they work great.

>>1019064
>I do miss that old spincaster ringing noise

I have not used one in 30 years and I can still remember it.

>>1019045

>At the same price point as that Zebco reel, a well chosen open spinning reel will offer:
"Well chosen" are weasel words, denoting a judgement call made by you. There's literally no way to win this argument, since it depends on YOUR judgement, which, since we're having this discussion, is biased towards your point of view.

Also, a Zebco 33's price point is $15 at Walmart. I dare you to find a "well chosen" spinning reel for that money.

>Better casting.
Depends on the rod, not the reel. Using comparable rods, they'll cast comparable distances.
>Smoother action.
Zebcos are plenty smooth, especially when comparing apples to apples and looking at $15 spinning reels.
>Lower weight.
1 ounce heavier, and all right at your wrist, aka the fulcrum of the swing.
You'll never feel it.

It will also likely be

>Less autistic
>Less bubble pack
>More aesthetic
All subjective and immaterial to the topic at hand.

>>1019057
Also, thank you for proving my point that you're completely autistically rustled for no reason.

>>1019024
A local long time angler recommends me the BG reels

>>1019073

Buy your $15 Wal-Mart ZEBCO then.

Just don't ask for validation on your retarded poorfag decision.

>>1018959
I've got the perception 12.5 caster, and dig it. this looks like a very similar setup. for 400, get it.

>>1018992
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H10PyITvFCk

>>1018992
>buy boat
>cold front moves in
>can't use boat

Welp what a mistake

>>1019073
>Also, a Zebco 33's price point is $15 at Walmart. I dare you to find a "well chosen" spinning reel for that money.

Different anon, but...

Shimano IX reel. Seriously. I bought one at Academy just because it was cheap, but I fell in love because it was a damn fine reel. Only 15 bucks and it's lasted almost 10 years in fresh and salt, from bass to huge flatheads, carp, black drum and bluefish.

rain coming never did maintenance on my reels. what should i go out and buy so i can sit down and do that tomorrow?

>>1019085
And you did not have to fake a laugh and tell the cashier that it is a gag gift.

>>1019086
a toothbrush, some zippo fluid, and reel oil/grease combo pack from academy or somewhere. Also tiny screwdrivers and start googling your reel schematics

>>1019076
>Literally has no argument other than
STOP LIKING WHAT I DONT LIKE REEEE
>calls other people retarded

Ok kid, whatever.
You don't know shit and can't think straight without name calling. Any validation you might give would be worthless anyway.

>>1019073
>Depends on the rod, not the reel. Using comparable rods, they'll cast comparable distances.

No there's definitely more friction in a spin cast than a spinning. I'm not even really judging you for wanting to get one.

You also didn't refute the gearing and drag.

>>1019086
Quantum makes a nifty reel cleaning kit

>>1019086
Rum or beer, probably both.

>>1019089

Why did you even ask then if all you were going to do was defend the decision you had obviously already made?

Spincasting baby plz leave

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>>1018858
Yeah all the time. Those fuckers come at any scumfrog or THICC topwater lure with a vengeance... They'll chase it from across the pond. They get really pissy during mating season especially.

I've only ever purposefully hooked one once because he was chasing my lure for over an hour like an asshole...

>>1018240
It's not a microscopic dry fly that only weighs 1/1000 of an ounce and cast on a G. Loomis™ fly rod for the completely superior fish: trout.

It's almost like you don't even smell your own farts you pleb.

>>1019096
I didn't. That was somebody else.

>>1019107

What, you're just the resident autistic $15 Zebco spincasting reel defender?

>>1019072
>tfw after you cast and then start to reel and the bail type thing inside clicks closed with a pleasant "ding!"

You cunts need to slow down. I can'y keep up with the threads!

Honestly I love it when it isn't just 200 posts bashing furfags

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>>1019102

>>1019108
They're decent reels for what they are. They get people on the water, and that's not bad. There's literally no reason to shit on them other than elitist wankery.

The fish don't care what reel you're using as long as the lure gets in front of their faces, and that's what matters.

>>1018862
got 2 bites today on the sweet corn but I didn't set the hook properly and I think I spooked the fish

wouldn't bite after the second one but I did see it surface 2 times

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Not sure how this happened. Even on those 1/8oz chatterbaits, it's like a 2/0 or 3/0 hook.

>>1019110
Kek, I know The Onion from anywhere

Also I have the KVD Brush Hogs in a color just like that

>>1019123
They're aggressive and stupid enough to work miracles, that's how.

>>1019031
>>1019089
>Kid posting this hard

>>1018992
I honestly don't know. Never fished in Australia.

>>1019124
It's interesting too because I rarely get bluegill after dark.

The gar were out cruising around but they being picky bastards as usual. I have been throwin poppers a bit lately too just to see if anything will hit em but not a single bite on topwater.

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>>1019132

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Caught my first crappie today. Hit like a freight train for a panfish

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>>1019149
Welcome to crappie fishing. They're my favorites.

>>1019160
Nice papermouths.

I really need to find a good crappie spot. Everything near me is public and super overfished so a "good" crappie is smaller than most places' bluegills and not worth eating.

>>1019163
Yeah, I really lucked out with that spot. Couldn't believe it when I was catching 15" one after another. But it seems the crappie have moved to another shore or somebody came and fished them out because I haven't caught one there in months, only bass now.

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Went ahead bought a rod, some bait (including nightcrawlers in the fridge), line, and most of the other basic stuff.

Any tips for a first time fisher? I'll be in southeast Kansas if that matters.

>>1019165
Sounds like PA. Motherfuckers here keep everything. Saw some dude keep a 6 inch brown trout the other day.

>>1019171
What are you fishing for? Did you do any reading or watch any instructional videos? It looks like you went to Wal-Mart and haphazardly threw shit into a cart.

>>1019175
>Did you do any reading or watch any instructional videos
> It looks like you went to Wal-Mart

I went through youtube and watched a few videos, read the op links. Did go to Wal-Mart though.

>Then grab assorted hooks, a couple bobbers, and some split shots

Did that and got a few other things

From what I'm reading, where I'll be fishing has White bass, White Perch, Crappie, and some catfish. Not trying to catch anything big, just some catch and release.

someone give me some insight into basic carp rigs

>>1019178
White bass and crappie predominantly eat other fish (minnows). You can have great success fishing live bait with them, which it looks like you're set up for, but you need to find a bait shop that carries it.

Nightcrawlers and that packaged dough bait will do well enough for catfish, and if you ever feel frisky go buy some chicken livers or gizzards at walmart.

Don't have perch here, I've caught them walleye fishing on trips up north on jigs but that was accidental.

>>1019179
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=carp+rig

>>1019179
these two videos will help

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_JfnO9_jAc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJHP9gqeDGA

>>1019171
>spincast
Toppest of keks. It will work tho.

Just put half a nightcrawler on the hook and set it out there like 18" under the bobber. Can't fuck it up too much.

That Magic Bait tho... ehh... you will have that sitting half-used in the bottom of your tackle box for years. There's only a few artificial baits like that really worth using. Otherwise for smaller fish like perch and white bass, if you aren't using lures, go with nightcrawlers or small minnows.

>>1019145
Pls stop.

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QUESTION:

My neighborhood pond is overrun with huge carp. I would like to kill them and throw their carcasses back into the water.

Should I worry about their eggsacks going back into the water? Is it possible for a dead fish's eggs to be fertilized?

>>1019218
Possible yes, probable no.

Throw them up on the shore and they won't even stink the place up because coons/possums/coyotes/stray cats will eat them within 8 hours.

>>1018626
>>1018627
+1
but if you spend a little money, get a cheap fly combo like a 5 wt 3 forks/wind river combo from cabellas that comes with line, and just a couple of accessories, you can get a trout stamp and start fly fishing for trout
>>1018858
i did once, i was frogging, and the bastard jumped out of the slime and choked my rubber frog
>>1019118
i'd say definately try some #6 baitholders then, and how full are you filling the hooks? ill usually hook the corn long-ways and fill all the hook, pushing one kernal up over the eye of the hook, and having the last kernal barely behind the barb
>>1019123
i did that once with a 4 inch long popper
>>1019145
>reeeeeEEEEeeeEEeEeeeEee3
>>1019149
crappie are like that, they're a lot of fun
>>1019171
a good general rule of thumb that has really helped me, is fish your lures like you're trying to lose them
cast at weeds, lilly pads, brush, rocks, sunken trees, anything like that (but try not to actually lose them)
>>1019180
>go buy some chicken livers or gizzards at walmart
+1but also buy pantyhose, otherwise you'll go mad keeping them on the hook. and the pantyhose will be used as such
>tie the opening at the bottom shut with a normal granny knot
>cut it off, maybe an inch long
>press the chicken liver in
>hook the pantyhose so the bait cant fall out the top
then when your bait is done, cut the pantyhose off, and throw them in a grocrie bag to throw them away later
>>1019218
>I would like to kill them
doing the work of raptor jesus

>>1019102
specifically a 9 inch brook trout you had to hike 5 miles in to the woods to catch
>>1018859
im about to head out there again with my 4 weight and try to get a fish that is way too big with it. just tied up some bugs on size 12 hooks that should get them

Guys, how do you get out of a Kayak by yourself?

Also is it imperative that I never drag it? I'd carry it over pavement or gravel but I don't see the harm in pulling it through grass and brush.

I'm planning on going to a lake known for prize bluecats. Like 30lb+ are common and there have been many 70lb+ caught and even 100lb+.
I've never gone after such large fish, what rod/reel/line/hook should I buy? Any tips on how to catch one of these beast?

>>1019347
put the paddle behind you and a bit off center and use it as leverage to stand up

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>>1019320
This isnt a carp

>>1019347
I pull mine (after its all loaded up with battery, gear, trolling motor) through grass, dirt, and sand. I don't think it's done any harm.

>>1019270
I was using a size 2 baitholder

I switched to a size 4 octopus hook but no bites

I put them on sideways and filled the hook

>>1019360
That should work

>>1019355
>rod/reel
Penn defiance 40 combo

>line
40lb test braid

>hook
7/0 circle hook

Carolina rig it and use a 8-10 in live perch as bait. Flip the bait clicker on and put it in free spool. Start the drag off at about 10lb. When you hear a good steady run take it off free spool turn off the clicker and hold on tight. Bump up the drag as needed but do not lock it down.

>>1019218
Just throw them in a dumpster somewhere. Dumping a lot of dead fish into a pond probably isn't a good idea.

>>1019347
I pull mine all the time. The only time I don't is if it's really rough concrete.

what should i be fishing now that the water temp is 63

>>1019377
Texas rigs shallow on hard bottom around cover to catch some spawners

>>1019145
I took a friend out fishing that doesn't really fish ever, and he started doing this when reeling in a fish and it triggered me so hard I wanted to pack everything up and leave.

>Kayak had 6 holes in it
>only 4 buttplugs

Is this a problem?

Also the internal storage has bags

Will the internal hull fill with water and these bags will keep shit dry?

>>1019407
Also how do I not get wet?

Seemed like the paddle I got on upstrokes streamed water onto me

Can I keep an anchor inside the craft or do you load that stuff seperately?

>>1019218
Be more worried about neighbors calling the cops on someone mass murdering fish and dumping the carcasses back into the pond. It's not a good look, lol

>>1019416
it's not like it's illegal to kill but a dumpster is the better choice

>>1019407
Well take out your squatplug and use that. One hole is better than two!

>>1019417
Im not saying it's not. But it's really not worth the hastle from the normie neighbors calling the cops and then talking to them. I'd pretend to keep them, kill them and then throw them in a forest edge somewhere for the Coons

>>1019415
>watersport
>how do i not get wet
i think you picked the wrong hobby...

>>1018310
>the_weak_must_fear_the_strong.jpg

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>>1019415
>drip rings

also focus on you paddling stroke. watch the blade enter and exit the stroke. you want a clean entry and exit to maximize your paddling stroke. buy the rings if your paddle doesnt already have them..
for trabsport i take my stuff out of the kayak
including the anchor. i paddle with my anchor near my feet.

>>1019407
>scupper plugs
you can use foam golf practice balls to plug your scuppers if you decide to use them.
the internal bags arent waterproof and its common on cheaper kayaks that the hatch will leak. youll have to test that one yursef but i recommend stuffing thing you dont want wet into a drybox-bag or some quality ziplocks

do you set the hook on carp or do those niggas hook themselves?

>>1019453
>drip rings

Haha I took those off because I thought they looked stupid, guess I'm the stupid one though

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So, I'm going backpacking in Scotland soon. I would love to catch some trout for dinner. It should work about fine since I'll be sleeping along the shoreline of rivers a lot.

Can someone recommend me a small but decent rod that I can easily carry? Something with a MOLLE pouch would be ideal.

>>1019467
Just remember that you will be better off getting a 3pc or 4pc travel rod instead of a shitty telescoping rod. Tons of companies offer travel rods.

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>>1019468
Cheers, so something like this would do?

>>1019470
Yeah that's straight. I hate Ugly Stiks because I fish with lures and they have no action but it will probably work well for you.

>>1019483
>they have no action
What does that mean exactly? I am no expect but I will be fishing for trout and I believe that requires lures aswell?

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>>1019484
It's hard to explain until you play with them. I think Ugly Stiks use a lot of fiberglass in the rods while most others are more graphite. The fiberglass isn't quite as sensitive as the graphite normally and it flexes a little more than a graphite rod of the same size. The Ugly Stik will still work for lures, but it's nice having a fast graphite rod when you're fishing for picky bass and want to feel every little thing on the end of the line.

But an upside with rods like the Ugly Stik is they can take a bit more abuse. If you bend a graphite rod the wrong way, it's easier to snap them than a fiberglass rod. So that's why I think that rod you posted might be good for hiking since you aren't trying to be a KVD™ bass fisherman with 60,000 different lures.

Hey guys so I realized I should be letting my jigs sit a bit stiller in the water when fishing. Be it for trout, smallies, etc while in a river and also still pools.

I was looking into a dropshot when I realized a bobber would probably be better since im never fishing too deep, keep hardware off the bottom. But I also figure that a bobber might spook some fish? Do the clear ones, aka bubbles, work well for my situation?

any one in commiefornia go to lake san antonio or nacimiento?

>>1018240

Not a fly.

>>1019486
Ugly sticks have a literal metal fucking spring in them on top of all the fiberglass.

>>1019522
>>1019484
Yes should also mention the fiberglass tends to be heavier than graphite. But if it's just a 5'-6' light trout rod, the weight difference won't be much between two similar rods made of different materials.

Im pretty new to fishing. Went a handful of times last year with a cheap $30 dollar Walmart rod, was not satisfied with it. Want to fish more this summer. I want a nice rod+reel combo but I'm not sure what I should be looking for. I want to spend $100 dollars or less. I will mainly be fishing lakes for trout and bass. Also, what bait and/or hooks are best for bass?

>>1019525
>mention the CHEAP fiberglass tends to be heavier than graphite

FTFY

>>1019527
>go to OP of this thread
>click on Pastebin
>see list of exactly the type of rods you are looking for
Pflueger President combo, any of the Lew's combos for $70-$100, any of the Abu combos in that range...

And for bass if you want to do live bait, shiners with something like a 2/0 or 3/0 circle hook but who the hell uses live bait for bass?

>>1019529
I don't think anon is spending $150+ on his travel rod

>>1019531
Oh yeah I forgot poor people exist. If you aren't spending 1k on a 4 piece fly rod why even bother?

I'm confused about flukes. Do you generally use the paddle tails as a swimbait with a steady retrieve? And split tails as a jerkbait, rigged weightless on a EWG hook?

>>1019527
find a combo rod on sale

>>1019535
That's usually how I do it. I always have a lot of success with just slow retrieving a white or shiny looking paddletail

>>1019535
Oh also. I'll add that you have to hook the split tail really perfectly. It's very easy to give it a real bad action that looks stiff and lifeless. But they're both decent options for murky water big bass imo

>>1019535
That's the general of it. You can also do a few twitch during a paddle tail retrieve, or retrieve really slow with long pause. The paddle tail doesn't have as nice of a jerk action like the split tail and just swim straight fast, but it will still draw strike. Of course, the split tail can't be steady retrieve most of the time because it wouldn't swim straight at all. Both can be rigged on weightless or weighted EWG. You can also use a regulat\r weighted jig head as well if you aren't fishing where there is weed and you worry about missed hook up with EWG. However, the lure will sink more head first instead of horizontal with a jig head. I use weighted for saltwater because the water is a lot rougher so I want the jerkbait to hit the bottom faster. They can also be rigged for drop shot as well.

>>1019089
Or you could spend $10 more and get a reel that will cast 2-3 times as far, be more pleasant to use, not stop working in a month, and a decent drag system. The only people who should use a spin cast reel are very young children, the advantages of even cheap spinning reels are far too great to use a spin cast.

Every single spin cast reel I have ever owned stops casting well and then will only cast like 10 feet because the line gets caught inside the reel on shit that isn't working right. I use one for catching bait when I'm kayaking but other than that it's spinning all the way.

>>1019535
I think. I do paddle tails if I'm swimming em and split tails for drop shots or Texas rigs on the bottom. I always do much better with paddles tails tho.

>>1019548
I would disagree about hooking a split tail perfectly being absolute necessary though. The split tail action is pretty wild in multiple directly so as long as you aren't completely off on rigging it, it would do fine. The only important thing is not going too far into the body with the EWG hook so that you make it too stiff, but that's pretty easy because it can be simple as picking a hook the right size would do. Rigging a paddle tail straight is more important since you want it to swim straight and not track one side or roll badly.

The drag cap to my baitcaster has gone missing, how fucked am I?

>>1019535
Yes. Split tails are good for flippin and bouncing the bottom too.

>>1019556
The spool tension knob? Probs not good anon.

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Czech out my thrift score store, $20 for a 40-50 dollar reel
>>1019460
Half and half
>>1019493
Its more the splash that scares than the float
>>1019508
+1
>>1019527
Okuma avenger 25 and 6'6" moderate power berkley lighting stick or Fenwick eagle
>>1019535
Pretty much but I prefer the split tails on a dropshot hook

>>1019556
What company? You can always call or email their cust service and try to buy a new one.

>>1019559
>that asshole who gives one shitty answer to questions which have many possible correct responses

>>1019564
Abu garcia.
I see the part listed so I'll probably replace it at some point, kinda ridiculous that it could be jossled loose.

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R8 my kitten

>>1019573
It looks retarded.

>>1019573
9/11, very fluffy

>>1019569
Which reel is it? If it's a cheaper on like the Silver Max, I know exactly what you mean. On the better ones, the spool tension knobs click and stay in place.

But that's a big reason I like Abu- it's so easy to get parts from basically any reel they have ever made.

>>1019578
I didn't say H8, m8

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>>1019581
Yeah silver max, I'll replace it eventually, seems to be fine with even my lightest lures.


Now what do I need to make sure I don't eat shit and lose all my gear.

How do I lash the paddle and the tackle box to the craft?

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>>1019464
well make sure you put them back on the right way..

>>1019470
get the diawa executive spin fly

>>1019573
6/10 would eat

>>1019553
>>1019553
So line gets tangled up outside the reel, you just reel it back in, and now it's THE REEL's fault for not magically untangling the gigantic knot you wound into the mechanism?
No wonder I don't get the kind of problems everyone else does with spincasts.

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>>1019590
>buy deck loops
>install them on kayak
>make leashes for rods and paddle
>bungie the box

>>1019573
0/10 bait. Much too cute to use.

>>1019608
Fish it topwater and you might get a pike hit.

no bites today

I hate getting outsmarted by fish

why don't fish want my mepps

>>1019645
Wrong color or size. Fish always want Mepps™, but sometimes you have to find the right one.

>>1019650
it's goldish and has red stripes

size 3
the feather is brown

>>1019651
Lol I'm mostly kidding. Real high pressure and the fish will be lazy and won't want to hit loud and big stuff. Otherwise if the bass are nesting, you gotta run those fuckers right past their nest.

>>1019407

The plugs just keep water from pooling in key areas. You want some water to be able to drain because you WILL get water in there.
>>1019407
>Will the internal hull fill with water and these bags will keep shit dry?

That's the idea.

>>1019415
>Also how do I not get wet?

That's part of kayaking.

>>Can I keep an anchor inside the craft or do you load that stuff seperately?

I load everything separately. My kayak has a spacious interior so there's a chance it could slide around into some inaccessible crevice.

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still nuffin

>>1019656
heard a couple of little plops near me

should I try topwater?

>>1019651
This sounds like a back page missed connections ad.

>>1019578
Well it is a cat.

>>1019659
Go for it. But that plopping, make sure it isn't carp or some bullshit.

Where are you and how warm has the weather been?

>>1019559
>Czech out my thrift score store, $20 for a 40-50 dollar reel

You should have told them it does not make that nifty bell sound and tried to get it down to $10. Then spit on it and bought a memecaster.

>>1019673
the weather has been like 18 to 25 c the past week

the water is like 63

there were tons of little plops but nothing wanted my topwater

I think it was probably carp

I tried corn on a hook with a bobber and I got one little bite but that was it

>>1019688
It is probably fish trying to get out of that burning hot water.

>>1019690
63 f oops

>>1019586
Maybe not have a garbage cat then?

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>>1019688
Carp is a bitch.

And I don't even know what water temps actually mean because South Florida is just 2-3 months of "Mild" and 9 months of "Hot" as far as freshwater.

>>1019699
Cats do suck. Only reason to have one is because you can't care for a dog properly.

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>>1019702
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>>1019702
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>>1019700
I also have a Boxer dog.