[Daily Bike Thread - /dbt/]

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Yamaha #1

3rd for fuck yamaha

>>17844791
>objectively the best brand
How can you hate them?
Unless you have brain damage

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nth for worlds most dangerous police chases

YAMMERHAW

>>17844787
Agreed
>Still wish Honda made an aesthetic competitor to the fz6 that wasn't shit so i

Is 650cc to much for a dual-sport?

>>17844927
Are you a manlet?

>>17844929
150 5'11 :(

>>17844914
Is this a tw?

>>17844927
>>17844932
You're fine

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>>17844933
Its a yamaha tricker

>>17844934
Ty

>>17844950
Typical douche bmw rider

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>tfw listening to Jesse Stweart's Cold Beer
>tfw no gf
>tfw raining out so can't take R3 to work
>tfw night shift
>again

>>17844987
>can't ride because it's raining
The fuck dude?

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>>17844987
>posting this meme when you have an r3

>>17844993
It's been raining sideways all day, m8.

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>>17845000
My meme bike has better to me than any gf I had. But yet I long for a qt ;_;

>>17845002
Rip Florida Anon

>>17844993
Some people actually ride with lean angle and considerable speeds, you wont understand burger

>>17844779
How much will fork oil fuck my brakes? I'm assuming the combination of oil and brake dust has clogged up the pads but will removing the oil leak and cleaning the pads fix it or are new ones in order?

>>17845073
>Fair weather
>anything but a pussy
I guess a comment like that should be expected from a yuropoor bikelet

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>>17845073
>>17845193
Guys, you're tearing this family apart! ):

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Here's a really blurry grainy photo from tonight. Good times.

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I love you /daily blog thread/

>>17844987
>tfw raining out so can't take R3 to work

The reason you don't have a gf is because you haven't grown a pair.
Rain is just water, you won't melt.

>>17845002
It's not even coming from the ground?

>>17845073
And rain is stopping that how?

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post bike

>>17844779
I want on the map btw add me senpai
Munich, Germany, z650 2018

>>17845256
Who are you expecting to add you?
SAWATH's ghost?

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Look at this shit.

>>17845260
>Ben will also be monitoring the threads, so feel free to post it at random and he'll find you.
Ben

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Yeee.
But I'm going to get a sidecar Indian to ride when my nephew's older. I think my retirement bike will be that.

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Damn check out that engine.

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>>17844951
Your days are numbered my friend

>>17845266
Hownew.ru? Austrian KTM guy checks his email about once a month, you need to email him, ben and SAWATH have been gone for years

>>17845275
Are you an old man weeb?

>>17845285
Very new
ok

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>>17845290
It aint gonna suck itself.

>>17845295
you'll forever stay a virgin then

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>>17845295
Go away squid stop bullying new rider anon

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Man; I'm slowly wanting a Benelli 302 more and more.
I'm a sucker for Italian baikus.
I just wish they were available in my area second hand and green. I can't justify 6.5k upfront for a 300cc P-twin when i'd have to place an order and have no haggle room on that.

>>17845402
>benelli
>italian

>>17845404
>Established in 1911, Benelli is one of the oldest Italian motorcycle manufacturers
>It once manufactured shotguns, although this part of the business is now a separate company.
sounds american to me

>>17845404
Some Models of yamahas are made in thailand, ktm in india, suzuki in spain, honda in taiwan;

I'll admit the 302 is made in chaina; it sources a bunch of nice parts other brands happily use and the larger bikes are put together in Italy; It's good enough for me my dude.

So my motorcycle battery is dead, I had to uber home and leave it at work. How easy is it to jump start it? I'm afraid of damaging it. Is it as simple as jump starting a car? From what I've read you just hook it up and start like normal but you don't turn on the car, correct?

>>17845404
What is Benelli according to you?

>>17845446
Why not bump start it?

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>>17845289
Twenty.....six? Seven?
Is that old? My nephew's almost 1, but I don't want to finance. A 15k+ bike, plus sidecar takes a while to save for on factory salary.

>>17845454
its chinkshit these days

>>17845463
Because its a GS, it weighs half a ton. Also we tried for an hour but I've never done it before so I was shit at it and the ground is completely flat so it was a massive pain in the ass.

>>17845446
you dont need to start the car but you can if you want to.

you usually just do that to guarantee the full voltage directly from the generator.

>>17845446
I normally start the car and rev it a bit before jumping the bike. Making sure I got all the power, as that bike will need it if the battery is actually flat.

>>17845476
It weights a quarter of a ton and its not that hard to bump start. Done it before.

>>17845503
bike starter motors are so small though you could start them with a battery that wouldnt even start a car anymore.

>>17845511
He's talking GS.
That has a a starter that is identical to a car.

>>17845503
Maybe I should just git gud then. I just want to get back to riding ASAP. Thanks fags, will get my gf to jump start it tomorrow I guess.

>>17845256
was für ne Gurke lmao

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>>17845218
you telling me you go as hard in the twisties when its raining like you do when its dry?

Because if you do youre probably not going very hard

>>17845467
Just like all of your household items, electronics, clothing, and everything you own.

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>>17845585
I do slow down a bit, but with normal street tires you have enough grip to still lean quite a bit in the rain.

>>17845402
Looks like an ER6N

Maybe just the ugliest italian bike

>>17845629
>Looks like an ER6N
exactly my thoughts

>>17845654
>>17845629
Cause it is
Well, an er-3n

>>17845664
then why buy it?

>>17845669
Because they can

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>>17845671
k

>>17845675
That's basically life
Show me one thing that isn't throwing money down the toilet?

>>17845604
>I do slow down a bit, but with normal street tires you have enough grip to still lean quite a bit in the rain.

The actual question is how much water is on the ground.

If it's only just started raining, you won't have grip issues beyond the water sapping heat out of the bitumen. Once it picks up, you've got temperature issues and the problem of standing water.

Most street tyres will have sipes up to about 30 degrees of lean. Past that, up to the edge of the tyre, they're slicks. If there's enough water to act like a layer above the bitumen, and you don't have sipes to channel it, you will aquaplane.

Have a look at the tyres Rossi is running there. Rain tyres for the track have sipes right to the edges. The downside is that if you hit dry patches on those tyres, you'll burn them up quicksmart. I've wrecked a set of wets in 2 laps because the track was drying out. Good enough for slicks, but the rules ban us from running them on semi-dry tracks.

>>17845676
getting a sensible motorcycle instead of a poo-in-loo bike rebadged by a meme brand so they can charge you more for it

are those 1300cc super dukes also made in land of the poo?

>>17845692

No, from memory the 1290 is entirely manufactured in Austria and Italy.

>>17845695
>be ktm
>manufacture those smaller dukes in land of poo
>radiators leaking, wheels cracking, engines seizing
>make 1290 duke in austria with higher quality
>just give said 1290 duke to press to get positive publicity
>kids rush to buy poo bikes thinking its the same thing with smaller engine

real germans seem to be smart

>>17845701
They all do that tbqh.

>>17845704

It's about having your own engineers and supervisors at the factory when you get shit built in China or Thailand.

Honda sends a whole department over to make sure Ts are crossed and is are dotted. Benelli is owned by a Chinese consortium, so no quality control at all. KTM sends shit to India for it to be done cheaply, so you get what you pay for.

>>17845713
but those low CC dukes arent even cheap, they expensive as fuck compared to honda/kawa/suzu/yama equivalents

>>17845722
They are better than all those ones though to be fair

>>17845725
>duke 690 brand new
>11 000 europoor dollars

or
>gsxr 600 brand new
>same 11 000 europoor dollars

really make you think

>>17845704
And it shows. They start rusting way quicker than their premium bikes, paint flakes off, dash is poverty-tier, etc.

But they probably only have an expected lifespan of 4-5 years with new riders crashing them so it's whatever.

>>17845731
ah i was talking about the 390 vs its competitors.

Yeah that pricing is retarded, you can get way better bikes than a duke for 11k euros

>>17845750
>390

those 300-500cc bikes dont eve exist here, you get your M license at age of 16 which lets you ride 50cc, then at age of 17 you can upgrade to A1 which lets you ride 125cc and later A2 or just A, everyone skips A2 so the progress follows

>50cc<125cc<600/1000

i dont think i ever even seen 300cc bike live

kissing the asphalt @130km/h https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHV6iglIHec

The guy survived with a broken rib

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>>17845757
I see them every now and then in Canada. Sometimes even a 125 which looks hilariously small compared to full sized sportbikes.

Do bikes in Europe cost more or something? 11k Euros is 16.1k CAD and you can get a brand new Tuono for less than 16k here (pic related). Even though it's a European bike in Canada.

A 2017 GSXR-600 is $11,299 here too; 7.7k Euros.

>>17845775
600cc real bikes are about 9 to 15k new depending which one

1000cc sporties are 18 to 28k

>>17845790
Wow you guys are getting hosed

>>17845809
every motorized vehicle has good 30% tax on top of them because m-muh communism

>>17845757
AU is <650 then full so the duke 390 is one of the better bikes around. I got mine for $4000 at 700km when new is $7000ish, so pretty happy with the bike. It's stupidly light

>>17844779
I live in the UK and want to use a bike to commute. What's the best kind of bike for all-weathers? I'm kind of worried about going 60-70mph up the dual carriageway in the rain. How do you deal with rain on your helmet?

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>>17845811
>mfw 63% of petrol price in Netherlands is tax

>>17844987
I'm the one who made this specific image, but I don't remember ever posting in /dbt/. Weird.

I posted it on /vg/ and /a/ a couple of times and you have no gf so figures

>>17845839
>What's the best kind of bike for all-weathers?
adventure bike with a windscreen or a faired sports touring bike. anything with good wind protection will help protect you from rain too.

> I'm kind of worried about going 60-70mph up the dual carriageway in the rain
dont. just be careful, wear wet weather gear and leave adequate braking zones. Dont split down between cars on the painted lines unless its slow moving traffic.

> How do you deal with rain on your helmet?
it beads off from the wind on your face. If you turn your hide side to side, you can get very effective removal of water droplets. Overall, not something to worry about.

as long as you have some riding experience, riding in the rain is really not that bad. Furthermore, its lowkey kinda comfy feels if you are properly protected from the weather

>>17845850
The whole adventure-bikes-have-good-windprotection meme is old. You sit miles away from your windscreen. More noise, wind and turbulence than on a sportsbike.

>>17845809
Go look at the price in rubles then
If your economy is weaker it makes no sense to make a 1:1 conversion

>>17845839
>What's the best kind of bike for all-weathers.
One with good tires and ABS. A fairing and windscreen won't do as much as you think. What you want is slick gear that keeps you warm and dry, heated grips, and something for your seat to solve the water pooling issue. All weather bikes should also be outfitted with water-suitable grip tape on the pegs just because shit does get slippery, and you want some good boots so you won't slip and drop your bike when you stop and put a foot down. Also rain-X your helmet.

t. spent his first two months riding when it rained every other day on a VFR800 (vtak) with a really fucking tall aftermarket windscreen

>>17845866
>One with good tires and ABS.

ABS is such over-rated shit. The no-frills ABS you get on standard bikes is terrible, to the point that I can outbrake it without trying.

Worse than that, it can interfere with effective braking. On the street triple I have found that with ABS off you get something like 30% extra braking force on the front with ABS off.

That's frankly dangerous.

>>17845893
>Buying "standard" bikes
>Falling for the "not too much for duh streets" meme

If it's not a liter sportbike or a top of the line adventure bike, it's a budget model for poorfag transport and you're assumed to not be riding very hard anyways.

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Boys, I fucked up. Bigly.

Mounted my crashbars (givi) today and a fucking screw broke off in the cylinder head thread.
>mfw

Had to drill it out and cut a new thread.
What a shitty way to start the day.

>>17845866
>ABS
>in the rain
Fuck that

>>17845924
he's a brit who wants to commute. he'd probably die without it.

personally i don't like it and both it and linked brakes have actually caused crashes for me

because according to whoever made the VFR, it wasn't meant to go over loose surfaces

>be going back home from work last night
>just started work
>dark country roads I'm not very familiar, plus its night time
>single circular headlight beam nowhere as good as most modern cars
>visibility is just really bad
>car behind me getting ridiculously close

What should I have done to get this cunt off me?

>>17845903
>you're assumed to not be riding very hard anyways.

That's not a good excuse to take away braking potential. If they gave you the same bike without ABS you'd stop quicker.

That is just a sales strategy with negative consequences. Look at how many newbies think ABS will make them safer - they're selling to that crowd and offering them a system that doesn't work as well as your own hand does.

>>17845931
go fast and put a light on your helmet so it aims where you look

>>17845932
All those "Standard" and "Naked" bikes are literally made for the newbie/shit rider market, because they're full of dumb ideas like "sportbikes are uncomfortable and can't carry any cargo t. thinks the only way to carry cargo is to buy bike specific racks from givi" and "adventure bikes are dumb i'd rather have a super light 2 stroke and a cruiser since that's better in theory t. only owns a ninja 250"

>>17845929
Whoever made the VFR didn't design it to go faster than 50
It's got awful suspension, c-abs and the worst steering ever

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>>17845945
*cough*

>>17845949
The VFR is just a mess in general, no idea why people fawn over it.

>>17845949
At least it sounds cool.

Too bad it's honda's way of saying "V4 sportbikes never."

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bar end mirrors are the lamest thing in the world

>>17845956
>sounds cool
>its characteristic sound is having an exhaust choked so much that your valves are louder
Shoulda got an Aprilia
>faster
>geared cams but no vtak
>illegal exhaust from factory

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>>17845924
>mfw dads Yamaha ABS kicks in ridiculously early

>>17845965
On my old sh you could pull any lever and both the wheels would lock solid
Once i pulled the fuse and got in the skid lyf i never looked back

>>17845957
t. manlet
As soon as i find a legal one i'm getting a pair
So fucking tired of seeing nothing but shoulders and elbows

>>17845986
6'6 198cm fagget

>>17845986
>not getting convex mirrors and mirror extenders instead

>>17845931
Slow down. If you need to brake suddenly, you need to make sure there's enough room between you and the car behind so he doesn't rear end you. Eventually he will either back off or go around you.

>>17845986
t. splitlet
bar ends make your bike way too wide

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>>17846003
I don't lane split because it's dangerous, illegal, and not fair to people in cars.

Enjoy dying because you wanted to be a california maniac and go 100mph down a busy highway.

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>>17846011

>merino wool undergarnment
>heated vest
>winter waterproof gloves
>heated grips
>windproof pants (that can I use as casual wear)
>waterproof boots (that can be worn as casual wear)
>stop trimming chest

What else do I need for winter riding?
And where I can find a pair of normal looking pants that can face the cold?

>>17845701
>make 1290 duke in austria
>still have shit reliability just at much higher prices
>snobs buy superdukes with the same reliability as pooland ones

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>>17846011
splitting at 100mph yes that is dangerous but sitting in traffic or coming to a sudden stop instead of filtering well...
vid related..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu4SIhXA_1k

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>>17845731
>>duke 690 brand new
>Not getting a 690 enduro.
Why even bike.

>>17846011
>dangerous
As long as you do it safely, it's safer than sitting in the back and getting crushed by Stacy telling Chad about how totally mean her teacher is.
>illegal
Not in the vast majority of the world.
>not fair to people in cars
It's their choice to contribute to the congestion with their shitbox instead of riding a motorcycle or scooter and avoiding it all.

>>17846041
Lane splitting at low speeds is dangerous as fuck because people will try to do sudden lane changes in bumper to bumper traffic. It's actually safer to lane split on highways because if you're going faster than everyone else, you don't have to worry about cars coming up behind you as much.

>>17846062
people who do that are breaking the law anyways. so are the tailgating faggots that force it. you're not allowed to nose over and occupy two lanes for an extended period of time. people are supposed to maintain proper following distances so lane changes can just happen.

you have a 10mph spillover and they're at fault (assuming it's legal to lane split). enjoy your new motorcycle.

>>17846081
What country to you live in that bumper to bumper traffic doesn't happen and people leave multiple car lengths when crawling 0-5 mph? If you're splitting, you're automatically at fault unless you can prove they did it to block you on purpose, lane splitting is near the bottom when it comes to right of way, just like making a left turn where cross traffic doesn't have a stop.

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>>17846062
You are fucking wrong though and there is plenty of statistics that will back me up on this.
did you even watch that video?
do you need more examples of why lane splitting/filtering is safer than not splitting/filtering?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-uvBvHpXdw
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8oLIeCG3_k
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA8xJod7AJE
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BiczTfhmuI
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnwZm_hw_oQ
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=780Uln7UaLw
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb1WPPI9aOw
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7D0BTyJBeM
see they get rear ended because people in cars are fucking useless at judging the speed of bikes/following the 3 second rule?

>>17846081
>assuming it's legal to lane split
EU here. That's one of my gripes about lane splitting and motorcycles in general around here. While some things are legal as in you wont get fined, in case of accident you'll almost guaranteed to get split blame or your fault.

Usually they'll get fine for illegal maneuver and you'll get fine for "choosing inadequate speed for
circumstances".

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Remember when honda looked good?

>>17846093
it happens but I never see anyone force their way in unless it's a faggot in an econobox, and I don't trust econobox drivers to not crash into me even in a car.

>>17846096
But you're wrong. Statistics show getting rear ended is extremely rare. Are you seriously advocating "splitting" on a two lane street?

>not splitting at every stoplight
>waiting for morons with automatic transmissions to accelerate as slowly as possible because their car will short shift for them

it's like you want to waste your precious mortal life traversing the fucking grid system

>tfw you get behind someone with a stick shift instead and they actually accelerate because their car builds power in first despite being at minimal throttle and they're too lazy to short shift
rare but good feel

>>17846104
If i was wrong then why is it now legal in countries like Australia specifically because it lowers the number of motorcycle accidents?

is it because the people who decided this are fucking morons or is it the more likely answer of you being a fucking moron?

Y'all americans make dbt garbage

>>17846114
>Split in australia
>pass an ute
>pass the mate a beer as you zip by
>have a nice day mate!

>Split in the US
>decapitate yourself on a tow mirror
>WHY AINT YEW JUST WAIT IN LINE SON? YA SKIP SUNDAY SCHOOL? SERVES YA RIGHT, YER BIKE CAINT EVEN TOW A BOAT IT'S DAMN NEAR USELESS SON.

>>17846114
Because that's not why lane splitting was made legal.

>>17846117
t. australian

>>17846122
>HAVE A NICE DAY CUNT!

>>17845465
Have you tried not being poor?

>>17846122
>split in Italy
>get shit because too slow

>>17846122
>split in australia
>pass some cunt in an ute
>FUCK OFF CUNT
>FUCK YOU
>throw a beer at him
>crash into a kangaroo
>FUCKING KANGAROO
>do a flip and land in a pond
>get impaled by a stingray

>>17846125
yes it is.
>The Government introduced the filtering regulations to improve safety for everyone on Victorian roads and encourages all road users to be aware of the new laws.

>http://www.premier.vic.gov.au/motorcycle-lane-filtering-is-now-safe-and-legal/

>>17846122
That's pretty much how it goes here.
https://youtu.be/_egr1D--Lkg

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>mfw lane split on highways for at least 1000km and never even been in a close-call situation
Just slow down preemptively if there is enough space in between cars ahead for people to switch lane. Go at most 40km/h. Wear a thong.

>>17846148
>Lane splitting – which is weaving between traffic at speeds greater than 30km/h – will remain illegal because of the danger it poses to all road users.
hurrrrr

>>17846169
no one ever said splitting at speed was safe anon.

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>>17846102
Remember when Suzuki looked good?

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>>17846190
Designed by an outside firm and the chassis and suspension just look like garbage.

Here's a suzuki original.

personally i would suck every cock in japan if it meant yamaha would give the FZ9 a half fairing

>>17845912
not a huge deal desu.
Happens to everyone. Get proper screws next time, the ones they send with stuff are usually shite. As indicated by the fact that you could just drill it out.

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>>17846190
German design team

Which is the most comfy supersport currently in production?

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>>17845912
>drill it out and cut a new thread

WRONG

Seriously dude one set of those is like 5 bucks.

>>17845945
upright seating makes getting into corners way easier and gives you more control IN a corner as well.

Nakeds perform better on streets, superbikes are just good for track when following a racing line.

And yes they are way more comfortable on long tours as well.

>>17844927
No. Most have their power in the low end and are too heavy to have that much pull. 650 in a dual sport is not the same as 650 in a street bike

what bike you looking at?

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Thinking about picking this up. What is /dbt/s opinion?

>>17846253
most of the people here are weeb virgins so they jerk off over jap bikes, but it's a good bike if a little overpriced.

>>17846253

I can't even tell if that is an 1198 or a panigale from the resolution, let alone its condition.

>>17846267
Panigale w 76xx miles

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>>17845312
>stop bullying new rider anon
>discordfags ever saying this
LMAO

>>17846011
100 is slow bro see >>17845000
also youre a pussy. it's like you don't even wanna be fast and leave a good looking corpse. Have fun overheating in traffic, I'm cutting through @ 50+ on my way to your moms house to fuck her in the sas

>>17846263
Ty anon

>>17846281
ass* :^)

>>17846236
Not a fucking chance. We tried.

It was a several centimeters long piece of screw covered in lock-tight at around 50-60nm

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>6L/100km

erm

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>>17846292
loctite

>>17846263
Yeah just remember to take the cyllinder head off every 7500 miles to check if you need to pull the cams out and re-shim the memevalves and buy new memebelts

Japan: Just makes the fucking bike but can't let it cost too much
Ducati: Insists on making the bike an art piece so there's novelty in ownership, unless it's the 899, when ducati was almost sensible
BASED APRILIA: Just makes the fucking bike but makes it really good

>>17846279
It's overdue. I wonder why it could be up for sale...

>>17846292
lol dude was that an M10 screw? Because thats way to tight for anything smaller.

>>17846294
>not 16.67 km/l
dropped

>>17846294
if your right hand is in a good state of tune your bike will burn through more fuel. it's just how it is.

>>17846300
Yeah it was.
All the other screws were a tight fit as well, but it worked. This one just snapped.
>>17846295
>loctite
mybad

>>17845170
I've never been able to clean pads sufficiently after them getting soaked.

Buy new.

>>17846102
If it had an undertail exhaust I'd cream my jeans.

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>>17846253
That piece of shit blew me out once.

>>17846227
Oh shit, forreal?

Damn, I never noticed how much it looks like one of the R####GS adv bikes until this moment.

>>17845893
>The no-frills ABS you get on standard bikes is terrible, to the point that I can outbrake it without trying.

(cough) BULLSHIT (cough)

>>17845577
xd amirite

>>17846299
What does that 7500 mi service typically cost?

>>17846253
The guy is from loretto and wants 10k for it with the oem red fairings amirite? If you have to finance it don't buy it. The next service interval is the major one and will cost 2K.

>>17846299
>belts

The 899/959/1199/1299 have chains not timing belts.

>>17846411
after taxes and shop fees around $1k. The major service for panigale's are 15k miles and will cost $2,000

>>17845679
If it just started raining you will have the least grip, as the water combines with mud and dust to create a greasy film that significantly lowers the coefficient of friction.
If the road wasn't designed by a fuckstick there will be ample opportunity for the water to flow away and after some time of rain you will have more grip available.

>>17846435
Yeah good eye. Sucks to hear but yeah I'll pass.

>>17846250
Either a xr650L, klr 650, or possibly a used 690 Enduro

There's a yamaha demo day an hour and half away from me
Thinkin about riding up there to try the FZ07 but I've only got a shitty little dual sport fuuuark

>>17846467
If your from MN and want a ducati check out moon motorsports in monticello. They have a sweeeet looking EVO 848 with only 270 miles with a termignoni exhaust! The exhaust is worth $2,000!!!

>>17846509
Thicc?

>>17846509
This why I ride a harley
attracts milfs not sheboons

>>17846533
youre not attracting anything with your two ton 20hp bike

>>17846279

What does 76xx miles mean? Something like 15000km?

>>17846533
at best you're attracting gay oldies with a harley, don't fool yourself

>>17846562
Like 12000 k

>>17846562
https://www.google.de/search?q=miles+to+km
there's even a converter ON GOOGLE for lazy people

>>17846491
Cool I'll check that out for sure

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>>17846487
Fuck it I'm going bois

>>17846572

Then the answer depends on how many months it has run. Manual probably says 12 months or 20,000km for valves for the panigale.

They're a pain in the arse if you run them in on the road. Best run in on a dyno.

So why would someone choose a Ducati over say a CBR?

>>17846509
She likes dem chicken strips in many ways

>>17846487
Do it faggot
FZ07 is nice

>>17846591
>she tries to lean
>her leg fat stops her after about 10°

>>17846587
Same reason why someone would choose a Harley over a bike that isn't shit.

>>17846587
looks

>>17846587

Handling. They are easy to go fast on.

>>17846535

These threads more and more have become sportbike dickwagging for people who ride bicycles and like to pretend. The amount of "get a real bike" here is just plain stupid. People ride for different reasons and have different tastes but stopped bothering to post here because it's mostly people posting stock photos of bikes they don't own and shooting down people who dare to express their preference for a different experience.

So done with the sport bike circlejerk. Almost no discussion here about actually riding. Even people riding japanese standards with I4 engines get shat on here because not enough plastic.

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>>17846640
>because it's mostly people posting stock photos of bikes they don't own
>Almost no discussion here about actually riding

top.kek

how bad is bike theft in the UK?

seems to get hyped up a lot compared to the rest of civilisation...

>>17846669
minorities on scooters stealing bikes is a big problem over there from what i have seen on the youtubes.

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>nail in front tire
>nail in front tire less than 12 hours before a category 5 hurricane is supposed to make landfall 20 miles south of where you live
reeeeeeeee

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>>17845170
soak them in nail polish remover (the real shit, not non-acetone), i had a fork seal jizz all over my front pads and i soaked them for a bit and all was well

>>17844993
not him, but i work in a pharmacy and i can't walk in soaked head to toe, and i don't have any place to store wet gear when i do get there. rainy commutes are not an option for me.

>>17845850
dl1000 with a riot shield here, i get soaked. the shield is only good for reducing highway riding fatigue by keeping all of the air off my chest/head

>>17846036
Balaclava or however it's spelled. even a really thin one like AStars makes is really good to keep warm

>>17846367
how the fuck are you going that fast on a strom? mine wheezes out after 100mph, barely gets to 120

>>17846695
plug and ride, son

>>17846695
what were you going to do out run it on the bike?

>>17846695
>nail

that looks like a fucking railroad spike

>>17846719
With something that big (>>17846722)? I'll pass I think

>>17846721
This is Florida, anything is possible. Or at least it was until a rod of rebar embedded itself in my tire.

what's the difference between cheap and good chain spray?
is my chain going to dissolve from cheap spray?`

>>17846742
that can't be too big for a standard plug kit, can you pull the nail and take a pic?

>>17846749
>cheap and good
hurr durrrrrrrr
cheap and expensive*

>>17846722
or the head of a roofing nail

>>17846749
lolno. you can use almost anything to lube a chain, but some may last longer than others. i grabbed a can of lucas oil chain lube that foams and covers the entire chain a lot better than other stuff i've tried, but after lubing my chain twice it feels like the next time will empty it. i'll be getting a chain of dupont chain saver next

>>17846758
its pretty large is what im saying.

>>17846722
that's the head of the nail. The shaft of the nail is much smaller.

>>17846695
if it still holds air just ride it.

>>17846721
He could easily make it out of florida in time. I hear highways are gridlock but you could just filter through on a bike.

>>17846754
I'm just not gonna risk it, the bike is a highway commuter and I can't risk having a blowout at 80 miles an hour

>>17846769
It doesn't, the pressure is less than 10psi and it drops fast when I inflate it

>>17846764
the dissolve part was just a jk my friendo on two weels, so it deflects a bit from my dumb newb question

>>17846764
Dupont is what I use, usually it's good for 3-4 rides, and the big spray bottle lasts me half a season for two bikes.

>>17846772
i know, but using the wrong stuff can dissolve your o/x rings. read the labels on the back of the can, they usually say if they're o-ring safe. if there's no mention of it, move along

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I need some advice.

For medical reasons (eyesight) I'm not allowed by law to have a driver's license, which is why I'm trying to get a 50cc license (with restrictions). I feel it's enough for me to get around town, and I believe anything over that wouldn't be safe for me and more importantly, for others.

I would like some advice on what bike to get (I know next to nothing).
I would like it to be:
>Sportbike
>4 stroke
>Electronic start
>Digital speedometer
(As far as I know, there are no 50cc choppers, so I'm pretty much giving up on that idea)

I had my eyes on an Aprilia RS4 50. It looks really good, but it's only a 2 stroke.
I also had my eyes on a WK SP50. It's 4 stroke, but I dislike the look.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

(picture not related, it's just a bike I love)

>>17846809
If your eyes are so bad you can't drive riding an underpowered childs play toy on the road is only going to cause more of a hazard than if you did actually drive a car.
just get used to walking or get a pushbike.

or idk maybe get some glasses.

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What do you do if you can't buy an oem stator for an old shitbike?

>>17846011
This is bait.

>>17846102
Anyone wanna buy my 929rr? Runs good it's all silver with stock settings. $2900 Will post ad on request.

Greater Boston area or new england.

>>17846809
is you eyesight surgically correctable? if so, get it fixed and enjoy whatever bike you want. if not, you're going to get hurt.

>>17846690
M8 london is not minority nonwhites. It's MAJORITY nonwhites.

>>17846809
What's wrong with an Aprilia 2stroke?
The RS250 is still today one of the best handling bikes ever

>>17846809
A 4stroke 50cc is not going to exceed 30 miles an hour with an adult on it

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>>17846845
50% of people in london are white, 10% of people in london are of mixed heritage (white and some form of shit skin), the next two biggest minorities are Indian and black Africans at 7% each.

>>17846809
Having a smaller engine doesn't make it any safer. If you can't see then you really shouldn't be riding anything.

And where do you live? Here in the US the only thing we see with 50cc engines are scooters and dirt bikes for toddlers.

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hnnnnnnnnnng

>>17846863
Not a tuono/10

>>17846827
chinese stator

>>17846868
But I don't want it to be shit

>>17846859
>50% of people in london are white

as if they had statistics about that.

They just count everybody with a british passport that was born in britain as "white".

They do the same shit in germany where kids with 2 immigrant parents dont even count as having a "migrant background" anymore.

And we STILL have cities with immigrant majorities already. That shit took about 40-30 years tops.

Fuck western civilization man.

>>17846863
zu teuer uezs

>>17846096
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA8xJod7AJE
>have accident
>helmet flies off
I don't know what to say
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BiczTfhmuI
>rear end
>2 following cars do the same
this is just embarassing, were they ALL sleeping?

>>17846882
my bad, not the helmet flies off, just the camera, all good

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>>17846867
probably what i will be getting, still there's so many interesting bikes out there.

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>>17846874
i used a chinese stator in my bike and it lasted longer than the OEM stator.

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>>17846877
>as if they had statistics about that
they did in 2011.
maybe its different now.

>>17846881
given mileage and extras its a fair price call, id pay 5000.

>>17846897
of course it is given thats over 5 years old and we had a recent immigrant surge in europe.

And once again there is no way those statistics arent skewed. They ALWAYS are.

>>17846891
>he has used up two stators already

What the fuck

>>17846897
I see no problem with those statistics. What is your problem with them?

>>17846920
none he has problems with them.

>>17846917
no. the first stator was burned up within 6000 miles. The chinese stator was still going strong when I sold it with 20k miles.

>>17846920
they are fine if you are part of a small rootless international clique.

>>17846900
enjoy getting ripped off then faggot

Are suzuki enduro bikes any good?
do they even make any competitive enduro bikes or is the dr650 and 400 all they really have to offer?

>>17846952
>competitive

like non street-legal for racing?

>>17846982
sure why not?

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I should add that I live in a small town. Very low traffic and I know every road.

>>17846839
it is not
>>17846846
probably a dumb reason, but I don't like the way it sounds
>>17846850
That's more than enough for me
>>17846861
Portugal

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>>17846986
yes they do

>>17846997
how bad is your eyesight?

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>>17847009
not him but they also make the rmx450z

>>17847009
too bad they don't sell these in america

>>17847021
meant for >>17847018
We do get the RMZ450, but that is an MX bike rather than enduro

>>17847027
enduro isnt an all that well defined term.
Its just what euros used to call dirtbikes.

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>>17847015
Between 20 / 100 and 20 / 70.

>>17847035
Wrong
Enduros race in forest courses, motocross races in dirt circuits

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>>17847027
rmx450z isnt road legal either anyway, its basically an rmz450 with a a few changes, 18 inch rear wheel, coolant reserve tank, softer suspension settings, a different inlet tract and different camshaft profiles for moar bottom end and mid range power though you can not interchange the head from an rmz450 engine onto an rmx450 engine because the cam chain tensioner is different on the rmx to make room for the electric start.

>>17847071
Enduro can mean anything, even adventure dirt bikes like the Tenere.

And you use the same bikes for motocross racing, stunts or hare scrambles.

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>>17847088
there are MX/SX bikes for competitive track racing with sick jumps, Enduro bikes for woods racing on either technical or open terrain, Trail bikes for your joe average who wants a reliable tank like a dr650 ,Trial bikes for sick stunts and shit and Adventure bikes for old fat boomers if you want to get technical.

>>17847088
No, ADVs are the mid life crisis cowbikes
The Africa Twin and Tenere used to be for desert racing (Paris Dakar and Sahara respectively)
Enduros will last longer, take more abuse and be heavier and stronger than a regular dirtbike

>>17845986
>I can't move my head literally an inch and a half

>>17847103
you use the same bikes for enduro races dude.

>>17847115
I can, but
>i like the looks more
>i don't wanna do the chicken dance just to check behind me
>i like my head firmly attatched to my neck on the highway
The bars are already the widest point of my bike and i'm already having to fold the stock bunny ears to avoid smashing mirrors

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>>17847116
ima use KTM for an example here
MX/SX bikes:
>125sx
>150sx
>250sx
>300sx
>250sxf
>450sxf
Enduro bikes:
>125exc
>200exc
>250exc
>300exc
>250exc-f
>450exc-f
>500exc
>250xc-w
>450xc-w
Trail bikes:
Freeride 350
Freeride e
690

>>17846827
DIY rewind or find somoneto do it for you. Look for electric motor rewinder businesses.

am I supposed to look retarded when I put my leathers on?

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I finally sold my BMW today, can't wait to get a new bike already

>>17847173
>put leather suit on
>look like a tryhard racer to everyone
>put a hoodie ontop
way better

>>17847190
>Munich
>owning a BMW
hivemind

>>17847173
jacket looks good imo, jacket + pants looks like full faggot every time, especially all black. this is why i need riding jeans

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>>17847202
gotta rep that munich city life

but I won't get one again in the near future, the cost-benefit ratio for the "proper" bikes is just not worth it right now

>>17847213
riding jeans are a meme

>>17847213
yeah leather jacket + jeans looks great on any bike, but jacket + trousers looks fucking dumb

>>17847227
in hot weather riding jeans is good.

>but muh protection!
don't get in a crash then you retard.

>>17847236
riding jeans are cut very awkwardly, and they look dumb af with the protectors inside, i never said they offer less protection than cheap textile trousers

>>17847249
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkD8lJge3dA

>>17847249
get yourself a decently made pair then, I own some revit jeans and they look good and I am a skinny awkward lanklet.

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>>17847257
yeah, that was in no way 66 km/h

and dude, i already went down in riding jeans, and they protected me just as well as my textile ones would have. but, as I said, I haven't found ones that don't look like you're either a school shooter (paging wr anon) or like you're a skinny jeans fag

>>17847266
mine cost like 160€, but fortunately, they don't fit me anymore

>>17846279

Keep in mind that means it's due for a major service.

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>>17846587

Looks mostly.

I wanted a naked bike and the Monster styling just tickled my pickle in every way. It also has a more aggressive riding position than the FZ-07.

>>17847257
>66
>76
yeah no
he's way slower than that

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>>17847302
>Monster

>>17847302
>when the stock fender is half of the bike

>>17846749

It's mostly about ease of application.

I use bar and chain lube on my chains in the PNW. It doesn't get washed off easily by rain and is much cheaper than anything with motorcycle in the title. It's fucking sticky though, so if you don't have a chain guard of some sort you're going to fling shit everywhere for the first few miles after lubing.

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Should I get a CBR600F for around 3500€

or an FZ6/GSR600 with ABS for around 4500?

>>17847313

Fender eliminator and integrated taillight kit is on the way. I fucking hate the huge fucking fender.

>>17847326
what are those prices
all used?
post km

>>17846587
The real question is why you would buy anything but aprilia
>>17847326
Get an SL750
ABS is for retards

>>17847355
well that's roughly the used prices for the models, they all have around 20k kms

>>17847361
>ABS is for retards
meh, it's still a nice safety feature to have in case you really need it

I had a few moments on my old bike in the wet which surely would not have happened with ABS

>try on a load of boots at the shop
>they are all uncomfortable as fuck

is this normal?

also do I wear motorcycle boots on the outside or inside of my trousers?

>>17847375
So you're a retard
Get it and then weep when you'll inevitably pull the fuse and wonder why you're stuck with a 2kilo, 1grand addon that you barely use

>>17847385
okay

>>17847382
Outside for the fascio look, inside if you're a betamale
They'll conform to your feet and soften up
Especially so if leather

>>17847382

Depends on the trousers. Inside-boot trousers tend to have tighter ankles and are a little shorter than usual.

>>17847405
so if its a tall boot it goes outside?

I want to get some indestructible but comfy adventure touring boots.

>>17847385
retard

different topic:
anyone here own a pocket bike?
I find them cute and want one for shits and giggles
but I'm not sure if enduro style or sportsbike

>>17847361
>SL750
Why? It genuinely doesn't compete with bikes like the Duke 690R, Street Triple R, Nuda 900R thanks to its high weight and shitty suspension.

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>>17847415
Get some Daytona's then
They're pretty goat

>at aprilia dealer
>checked out the rsv4 rr
>looks better in pictures
>no digital cluster
>no led headlights
>no thanks

I wonder if aprilia is giving this bike a face lift for 2018

>>17847415

Depends on a lot of things mang. If you're gonna be in rain and elements, pants over boots and blouse them. If not, whatever you're most comfortable with an/or think looks better.

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>>17847431
Whatever you get make sure it has a kickstart and gears or a variator
Mine only has an autoclutch
>>17847433
I have one and i like it
Brotip: neither the gsr or cbf compete with yuros
It's an SV, but done right and you can shed a fuckton of weight by removing the bits borrowed from the caponord

Also RSV suspension is a direct drop in

>>17847456
>gsr or cbf
one has is a 98 hp inline 4, one is a 90 hp V2, and the other one is a 77 hp commuter bike. you can't really compare the three

>>17847471
>you can't compare 3 midsize nakeds because i said so

>>17847285
>yeah, that was in no way 66 km/h

well duh, him braking and THEN falling off means it was probably closer to 30-40

>>17847497
he started at like 30 kmh and fell at 15 at most

>>17846587
Torque and handling

With japan you buy a liter or a lolnolowend 600 or you don't get shit (suzuki's 750 doesn't count because suzuki is shit). Ducati gives you a bunch of crazy different sizes and they're all good. Too bad about the cost to own.

>>17847442
>LED headlights
>motorcycle
nothx

unless it's like that LED cluster bucket that adapts to corners they're worse than old bikes with ancient H4s lighting up on both sides for both beams and only marginally better than retarded new bikes with dual headlights that only light up one 'eye' for some retarded, probably european reason

>>17847493
well the Shiver will smoke both jap bikes from a red light easily, but the Suzuki has a lot more grunt up top

I recently turned 18, and I'm planning to buy my own motorcycle soon. I have my heart pretty set on a second gen sv650.
I also live in California. Am I going to get raped by insurance?

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>visit sister
>on my way back going 140kmh in dark and rain
>see signs that warn about the end of moose fence
>ha ha what kind of retard would speed in dark and rain in area known for having moose on the loose

oh wait thats me

>>17847524
>18
>SV650
fucking americans I swear to god
just kill yourself with a toaster in the bathroom and don't endanger others

>>17847524
>i live in california
>am i going to get raped
yes
>on insurance
not really. insurance says they go off displacement but they also go off shit they don't give you the details for like what class the bike is in, riders with the same bike, riders with similar bikes, and theft rates, and which coverage you get matters.

>>17847537

Are you implying the SV650 is too much?

I rode one of them at a test ride event and it was extremely easy to ride. Not my cup of tea, but I could definitely see a beginner being able to handle it with some room for fun once they gain experience. Throttle control will be the biggest hurdle, but it isn't rocket science.