[Daily Bike Thread - /dbt/]

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>>17607297
QUITE.

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>>17607288

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r8

>>17607342
Me on the right

I've always been curious. Why do girls never stand up when riding dirt bikes/motocross, or even bicycles for that matter. I feel like it was instinctual for me, but I see so many stupid crashes/wrecks from girls because they refuse to stand up..

>>17607353
Poor core strength.

>>17607339
The fuck is happening to the seat?

>>17607353
Matter of confidence, not gender. What sort of accidents would be avoided by standing up?

>>17607342
what bike

>>17607366
The sort where you jam your face into an engine block when grandma pulls out in front of you at 60 mph. Instead you go over, slide a bit and laugh it off because thick leather jacket eats road rash.

>>17607366
Plenty when dealing with technical dirt tracks. It's not so important on street riding

>>17607379
Oh sorry, I read that incorrectly, I didn't know you mean dirt.

>>17607373
You are better off taking evasive maneuvers with your bike rather than your body, hardly anyone's reaction is going to be to stand up and supaman that granny as you go over the bars.

>>17607339
the windshield fits it strangely well

>>17607387
If you're going to run into the side of a car, you can
>brake
which compresses the forks, gives you downward momentum and leads to your body digging into the obstacle,
>try to evade
which at high speed has a high chance of doing nothing substantial or making you drop the bike, in which case you're at the perfect height for kissing metal, or
>stand up
which catapults you over the car and gives you a good shot at surviving.
People's instinctual reactions in dicy situations do more harm than good (watch TOTW sometime).

>>17607402
braking will lessen the impact significantly though

>>17607415
Would you rather ram your head into an engine block at 40 mph, or slide across some asphalt in leathers at 60 mph?

>>17607402
Or 4:
>do a willy
Which makes you riding across the car, and nothing happens

>>17607422
Anon how the fuck are your riding your bike that your head is at engine block level?

>>17607422
more like hit the windshield at 30 vs fly through the air doing a double-somersault at 100

>>17607429
That's for advanced riders only.

>>17607430
>front wheel hits car
>forks compress
>front wheel can't move laterally anymore
>bike's inertia has to go somewhere
>bike pivots forward

>>17607445
1) You aren't doing 170 kph on roads where people could pull out on you.
2) You aren't scrubbing off more than 100 kph in less than 20 m.
3) How are you going to hit the windshield when t-boning a car?

>>17607461
Yammienoob could probably find a way

>>17607461
>pulling out in front of me

meh, i dont see that happening, i go slow at all intersections and if there is a car waiting i always ready myself to avoid it.

So my shifter detached while I was riding it. Pulled over and pushed it work. My coworker bolted it back on with a pair of plbut it was a pain in the ass because it didn't have a regular bolt, but a thin bolt with a cir clip. Thank you for reading my blog

>>17607492
As you should be. We're talking about how to behave when you ARE going fast, and someone DOES pull out in front of you. Maybe you didn't notice the intersection, or someone runs over red at high speed, or whatever.

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S A M v2.0

SEPTEMBER 9-10

OREGAN, SOMEWHERE WITH TOUGE

WHO IS IN

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>>17607568
Gee Bill, Keith lets you have TWO SAMs?

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>>17607578
JUST TRY AND STOP ME

CAPS MEAN IM SERIOUS

(actually kinda am tho)

(west coast best coast)

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>>17607543
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What's a (((fun))) road legal 2smoke in the 50cc-250cc range that's easy to find in the US? I want to ride a very angry chainsaw.

>>17607628
Get a 2 stroke dirtbike and get it plated

>>17607628
RZ350

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so juicy

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reminder that Ducati is the GM of motorcycles
>consistently underperforms in specific power output and compensates by making their engines way bigger than competition, then boasting about "muh torks"
>Constantly breaking down, having multiple issues, etc
>Despite costing nearly twice as much as competition, it barely ends up being faster in tests and by the next year jap manufacturers have blown them the fuck out of the water
>they make the literal F-body of motorcycles
>appeals to stupid millenials
>uses an outdated valve design that has no real purpose in modern automotive vehicles
>the majority of them are ridden by can'tturn mouthbreathers who fuck their cousins

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>tfw gonna get this in black sometime next february

Actually, when is the best time to buy a new motorcycle?

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>>17607568
Oregon requires insurance. Somewhere in Washington.
Like Natches or Morton.
Dirt bonus: Morton has easy access to Gifford Pinchot state forest.

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>>17607671
I've been monitoring prices all year. With Honda, at least, February. Before the fairweathers swarm, but after "ride red" starts.

If your bike's manufacturer has a similar promotion, I'd start checking dates.

>>17607606
Don't 125s feel underpowered on american airstrip-sized highways?

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>>17607697
Former scooter rider: There's always the long way. Which is usually more interesting to begin with.

>>17607568
>Oregon
Maybe
>Washington
Definitely

>>17607568
>Go to oregon
>can't get own gas
>retard attendants don't into motorcycle
>can never have more than 2 gallons at a time

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>>17607750
Jesus, please no.
How are you supposed to plan trips if you can't get a consistent fill?

>>17607724
And even so, aren't they just a bit faster than a 50cc scoot?

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>>17607750
>land of the free
>can't even fill up your own vehicle with fuel you paid for
LMAO

>>17607766
>go to oregon
>rattlecanned shitbike
>spent two hours wet sanding to get the finish right
>they spill gas on your cheap non-2k paintjob

Just stay away from the liberal shithole and everything east of wenatchee/snoqualimie.

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>>17607771
It's a 149. Scooters go past 600cc if you're stupid with it, but 50, 125, 250 are the standard sizes.

>>17607671
when ever you are in the middle of the shitty season where you live.

i have a 2015 1290 i love it.

>>17607785
>>17607782
>>17607750
>can't get own gas
Why?

So last night I finally bought my dream bike. A 2018 ktm 500 exc.
My question is, since i need to change the oil at the 1 hour mark, how do I get an oil filter for this thing since the shops in the area are telling me that they can only order parts for 2017 bikes. Do the 2017 and 2018 model share the same motor that I can use an oil filter meant for a 2017?

>>17607825
oil filters are pretty much universal

>>17607640
my state doesn't allow that, the bike needs a NHSTA plate on it. So I'm limited to pre-82 stuff.

>>17607833
not really, especially not with boutique bikes like KTMs

>>17607750
>>17607766
>>17607782
What?

>>17607825
>since i need to change the oil at the 1 hour mark
Lolwat.

>>17607825
17 and 18 500exc are the same motor, they will use the same filter.

>>17607844
You can put a yamaha air oil filter in a KTM :/
or any other brand for that matter...
turns out companies that make oil filters make them in all the sizes..
i had a kawasaki oil filter on my honda for a few months this year.

>>17607862
It actually a good idea on a new motor, any swarf left behind in manufacturing ( accidental ) will be caught by the filter within the first hour.

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>>17607825
Just buy a K&N filter?

>>17607825
Don't listen to >>17607833
Some guy on a forum once spoke about how the dealership just measured the oil filter of his bike with a vernier caliper and pushed him "the right one".

Bike engine seized 10k kilometers later, because the inner diameter of the oil filter was too small and didn't let through enough oil.

You're also talking about KTM, who more or less completely revamp their bikes every year. Get a filter for your make year and model.

>>17607662
>Ducati 1000cc V4 consistently 15-20 HP more than competition with the same size motor
Sure anon.

Speaking of which, what if Ducatis new V4 superbike has that kind of horsepower advantage? It's one thing in MotoGP where the bikes are let down by poor handling and Lelrenzo, but a 225 HP literpeter on the street will be a big fuck you to all the competition.

>>17607883
KTM never changes their filters...
2012-2018 all use the same filter size.

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Alright lads z900 or Mt 09, let's hear what you guys think

>>17607884
Who needs a 200 hp motorcycle? 100 is more than plenty and you'll ever need.

>>17607896
MT09 if you get the new model and can stand the bug-eyes.

Otherwise, Z900.

>>17607896
Striple 765.

>>17607896
Both ugly. Do this >>17607903

>>17607899
>need
Fuck off commie.

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>>17607896
Ducati 848 street fighter

>>17607875
I highly doubt a brand new engine would have swarf in it unless it's from some REALLY shitty manufacturer in china. Any speckles in the oil after an hour are probably from the rings and cylinder wearing in, a process which can take a few hundred to two thousand miles depending on the engine.

>>17607909
No, gibe children to eat pls.

>>17607903
uglier than both

>>17607914
Shit happens, spend $20 for a filter and a liter of oil and guarantee you will have no problems.

>>17607884
Their v4 is going to get btfo by jap 1000s

>>17607946
not disagreeing, the first engine I rebuilt went through 8 quarts of oil before it's first 500 miles.

>>17607662
>consistently underperforms in specific power output and compensates by making their engines way bigger than competition, then boasting about "muh torks
>what is a v2

>>17607863
Thanks, that's exactly what I needed to know

>>17607910
Why two radiators?

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>>17607342
very good, sir

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Found the problem I've been having...
>no leaks or air anywhere in clutch system.
>but air get in through the master when I squeeze the handle
>It has new seals, spring and everything else inside it.
>it's been put back together perfectly
So is the bore in the master too large from wear?
I literally can't think of anything else.

>>17607909
post liter

>>17607976
one for each cylinder, it is simple logic anon.

>>17607959
>saying this as a Ducati 1000cc V4 BTFOs Jap 1000cc 4s in MotoGP
Stop listening to the memes anon.

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>>17607986
I would but Triumph doesn't make a liter supersport.

>>17607862
Its a ktm

>>17607910
>tfw Ducati dropped the street fighter and kept the Monster
We live in the wrong timeline.

>>17607901
I'm curious why the fz over the 900?
I'm kinda more keen on the fz because of the triples power delivery

>>17608027
Oh well, then you are A ok I guess.

Are cruisers basically scooters: america edition?

>Really good for carrying groceries
>same seating position
>lolcantturn
>designed with the american city in mind, not twisty roads as a sportbike, dirt as a dualsport, or long highway pulls as a tourer.

>>17607796
>>17607849
In Oregon for some reason it's illegal to fill your own gas

>t. Live free or die state

>>17607899
>Who needs a 200 hp motorcycle?
People racing for prize money.

whats the deal with leathers having wide strips of elasticated fabric instead of leather down the inside of the arms and down the back of the legs?

Do they still offer sufficient protection? would they be allowed on track days?

Clear or slightly tinted windshield?

>>17608123
Get a transition windshield.

>>17608123
Clear, helmet has a built in visor

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>>17608123
Tinted a best.

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>>17607884
>>17607959
Let's see

1199 - 195bhp ~ 205bhp
1299 - 205bhp ~ 215bhp

That's with a 1200/1280cc vtwin, of course. But yeah, that's a good 10 to 15 bhp above the competition. I can only imagine they will bring this V4 superbike with a vengeance.

Can't wait.

>>17607966
I've never had that problem, I run them for about 15-30 minutes to check for leaks, set timing, double check valves if applicable, swap the filter out for swarf and then go beat the shit out of it for an hour or two.

>rings seated and staying seated.

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>>17608038
They should have kept both.
Just imagine a streetfighter based on the Panigale. HNNNNG. Imagine a naked version of pic related, anons.

>>17607976
Packaging for length. Looks like the front cylinder is sticking out a bit between the two.

>>17607990
You can see the damn hose connecting the two, they are not plumbed individually.

>>17607981

If the bore was oversized/scored it would leak fluid.

Clean up the outside real well. Put it all back together and ziptie the clutch lever to the handlebar overnight, if it's leaking it'll be wet in the morning.

>>17608190
You took that post way too seriously.

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failed my motor bike theory test yet again

>>17608204
>ziptie the clutch lever to the handlebar overnight, if it's leaking it'll be wet in the morning.
That's how I found out air was coming in.
>time for a new master
Fml

>>17608212
What are you fucking retarded or something?
its all common sense answers...
maybe read your hand book first or something, maybe try driving a car on the road or something also.

>>17608174
well it's more to do with this specific engine being very old and me being very cautious. it used a wire mesh filter for large debris and a centrifuge in the clutch to filter the oil. That centrifuge is very effective at cleaning the oil, but you have to pull the clutch cover to clean and inspect it.

>>17608211
You should see the hose connecting me to your mother.

>better

>>17608123
fully BLACKED

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Have to take my grom to the garage to get its fluids changed at some point.

>>17608022
I'm sorry can you point to me ducati motogp wins? I can't seem to find any

>>17608245
Why not just do it yourself? Still under warranty?

>>17608221
That's old, oldest thing I've done is a 41 Ford Flathead.

>>17608093
Those places are extremely unlikely to contact the ground in the event of a crash, and there has to be stretch panels somewhere, for fit and for breathability. Yes it's allowed, even MotoGP riders have the same panels.

>>17608022
>only 2 of the 2017 desmos are in the top 10
>btfoing anything

yeah, nah

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>>17608220
>What are you fucking retarded or something?
yes
>maybe try driving a car on the road or something also
i dont have a car license either

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>>17608253
No garage or tools of my own + little to no mechanical skillz/never been taught

>>17608267
stop being a bumbling tard then and get your shit together.
get all of your shit and put it together.
together.

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>>17608123
>>17608132
I guess it depends on how tall your windshield is. If it is tall enough that you can actually look through it then get clear. However I've ridden some bikes where it's really short and there's no ways you can get your eyes behind it, so in that case get whatever you like the look of.

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>>17608123
Anime

>>17608267
Where Ï live you can´t go for you motorcycle licence until you have you non-beginner car licence. You should really get your car licence, even if you never drive one it´s just good life experience

>>17608273
>never been taught
it's always someone elses fault isn't it?

>>17608273
I know I´m on 4chan so most likely the answer is no but do you have a friend or family member who has a garage you can use? Or at least tools because you don´t need much to change fluids, you can probably do it with what´s in your toolkit that you should have with your bike.

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>>17608239
WHITED

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>>17608324
I've done some mends here and there. Nothing that a hammer + electrical tape couldn't fix. Not blaming anyone but my skills/knowledge aren't quite at that level yet either.

>>17608329
Think there's a guy I could ask. Maybe he might actually respond to my messages this time.

The ducati scrambler would look a lot better without the chrome and gaudy exhaust, does anyone make a full system for it?

>>17608385
Akra most likely does.

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Fuck yea new stuff

>>17608308

how do i get anime screen?

>>17607789
Looking all over for that helmet. Where could I find one of these?

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>>17608465
Follow your dreams

>>17608472
this
just belive in you're self

>>17607896
z900

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>>17608465
Those look like they're just stickers.
Find a transparent of waifu, or picture with solid backdrop, and ask for a printed cut-out.
Local vinyl shops should have you covered, and most will include application for something that small.

>>17607662
>the majority of them are ridden by nobikes to the Starbucks and back

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>>17608465
>>17608489
It is just a bunch of slaps. Also available in anime: tire huggers

>>17607782
>Oregon
>Land of the free
Shiggydiggitydig.jpg

>>17607884
give me examples on these 1000cc consistently +15-20hp V4's

>>17607750
I always go for self service, but when i don't i have to awkwardly exmplain the Ttendanto to aim forward or backwards or he'll hit the airbox and foam up

>>17607899
maybe for you, but others like more gaylord

>>17608547
inb4 desmosedici

>>17608022
Using MotoGP to validate that statement

KEK

Great example why WSBK is better than GP.

>>17607750
...you do know that motorcyclists can pump their own gas right? They passed a bill allowing that in like 2001.

>>17608123
clear no contest

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Thinking about selling my 2007 Yamaha v star 1100. Been looking at some sport touring bikes, specifically the Yamaha fj 09. I want something with a little more pickup and better handling.

Do you all think this would be a wise choice, or should i look around some more? The only reason that i don't want to go full sport bike is because I'm six feet tall, and it seems like it would be uncomfortable to ride all curled up like that.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

>>17608547
The Desmosedici GP17 (and GP16 for that matter) are pushing 260-270 horsepower, while all the competition are around 250, see Ducati's 5-10kph top speed advantage in straights.

>>17608561
>I was literally talking about the MotoGP bikes
>inb4 motoGP bikes
are you retarded?

>>17607697
>grom
>highway

youre a fucking madman

>>17607724
When I started riding my CM250C I also started learning alternate routes. Its wonderful to leisurely cruise a country highway parallel to the freeway, going for hours without ever seeing more than 2 other cars at once.

>>17608159
Yes their 1300cc twin makes more torque and about the same whp as the inline-4 1000cc's. And frankly for it's price and huge displacement advantage it should do better. It will be interesting to see if they can make good power at ANYWHERE NEAR the same pricepoint as EVERYONE else. Their desmosedici was a 989cc V4 and made around 160-165whp with exotic bits on it and cost like 75k. The 215chp you quoted from the 1300cc is with a full ti akra system on it so the inlines still tend to win when they get to that even playing field (flash/system) even though they are down torque because of the massive cc/size difference they still tend to crush the ducs. Ever wonder why you don't see the ducs at the drag strips or in a lot of roll races on the streets? Because they lose. We'll see if they can finally offer something competitive at a similar pricepoint.

>>17608591
any kawasaki or gsxr is comfy, honda may be a bit tight but im 6'0 and i am always comfy on supersports, granted i ride a bike with clip ons that are very low, not a cruiser

>>17608573
>WSBK
>relevant to anything whatsoever
Are you really expecting me to believe that the ZX10 is the untouchable god emperor of road motorcycles

tfw no dr650

>>17608212
you should feel bad it's stupid easy to pass damn read a book

>>17608622
ZX-10RR with a few simple mods :^)

>>17608273
Anon.

Its fucking simple.

Look up the proper viscosity, get the proper filter and drain plug gasket, DRAIN AND FILL.

Should I get the 2013 CB500F or are the improvements of later models worth the extra money?

>>17608597
>MotoGP

Has nothing to do with street bikes the desmo sold on the streets for 75frigginK was like 160-165whp btfo

V4 WHEN?
4
W
H
E
N
?

>>17608660
I4 4 lyfe

>>17608624
It's pretty good. A rode my first last week. Was comfy. Didn't feel heavy, I thought power was fine but I think my 250 is fast enough too. Would recommend for an under $2000 bike but I mostly see very inflated prices.

>>17608622
WSBK is an ORDER OF MAGNITUDE more relevant than MotoGP...WSBK is much much much more inline with what an average consumer is going to buy at the dealership. Why are the ducs almost exclusively no shows on the streets and at the drags? We both know why, they get raped.

>>17608622
Wsbk has to use same cases I think. That's about all that's production about them.

>>17608664
the only acceptable I4 is the crossplank.

If you want 4 cylinders, just get two bikes.

>>17608694
I don't really know what benefits it brings. Sounds different though.

>>17608676
look at what MotoGP entails

wew lad

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>>17608703

>>17608713
Yes they're prototype machines. The only comparison is Honda still a shit. God emperor Marquez only able to make them look good.

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>>17608671
But Ducati is one of only two manufacturers that can even win a race in WSBK, did you think this argument out at all?

>>17608694
the 2nd gen motor is acceptable the first gen crossplane R1 was dogshit tuners bought it and soonafter got rid of it and went to a better platform...bout time yammie got with it. Next we'll see another 5 valve design I wish they would just quit messin around making goofy shit. The new R1 seems nice though so far

>>17608742
>/dbt/
>thinking

pick one

>>17608707
Yamaha's solution, the 'crossplane' layout of the latest I4 MotoGP crank designed to mimic the V4's low 'inertia torque', gave rise to a more constant crankshaft speed, and also to a lop-sided exhaust note due to the irregular firing intervals

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>>17608720
front engine mid-wheel drive?

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>passed a guy riding sport bike into the sunset with his qt on the back, resting his left hand on her leg
damn those feels, that looked like a happy moment
shitbike dual sports don't get girls, I need a road bike
what get?

>>17608742
ducati and kawasaki do best in wsbk
both offer the highest levels of factory support to their riders compared to the other teams

>>17608772
if youre just trying to get girls find a cheap ninja that isnt thrashed, they dont know anything and dont care

otherwise get what you actually want and have a life worth wanting to participate in

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>>17608618
Their 959 'discount' Panigale costs more than a GSXR1000 so I'll bet my nuts on how this V4 will also be expensive af.

The price includes more than the engine. Those things aren't as mass made as the japs and they have really fancy frames/components. I don't see why they'd need to have a similar price.

They have 200cc extra, yes, but 2 less cylinders so none of that 'hurr durr it's unfair' nonsense, please. Nothing prevents the other brands from developing 1200cc twins themselves.

As for how those bikes perform when being modified, the Panigale is constantly seem fighting for the top of championships. This has been discussed at a /dbt/ not long ago.

Ducati didn't win 6 gorrilion superbike titles by not knowing what to do.

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>>17608760
>and also to a lop-sided exhaust note due to the irregular firing intervals

Gets me rock hard.

>>17608742
You mean they keep getting raped by Kawasaki? 1st and 2nd place Kaws are btfo'ing Ducati. Look at the points spread Kaw is raping with no lube. And in stk1000 Ducati is currently ahead by a single point. Out of the top twelve spots in stk1000 Ducati holds only 2/12 spots while 4 cylinders hold 10/12 spots.

Of course there are many more variables at play here like amount on grid and budget and quality of pilots but the fact remains

>>17607353
why stand ?
bikes have suspension and such like now
weight shifting does not seem to do much
and foot pegs are briddy flimsy

>>17608786
>Ducati didn't win 6 gorrilion superbike titles by not knowing what to do.
Avoid racing the other manufacturers in the series they focus their racing efforts on?

>>17608772
>have sportbike
>still waiting on the girls

>>17608802
But you never brought up Superstock 1000 and every superbike on the street isn't a Kawasaki, why can't you just fuck off instead of digging yourself into a hole of shitposting

>when a photographer wants to sell his bike

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/mcy/d/yamaha-yzf-only-original-miles/6233578230.html

>>17608863
>$7400
Wowzers that seems like a rip

>>17608778
>>17608819
The grills would be a bonus but I have no clue what next bike I should look for. I was thinking some kind of sport tourer. I want to experience a 600 before they get killed off in my lifetime, I'm 21 so insurance would rape me and a 1000 would instakill me. After riding a dual sport, a cruiser would probably be really weird but I don't want a pigfat one, I'd want something along the lines of Easy Rider.
I commute my DS and ride around town on the weekends but I want something I can hop on the highway with and go on short road trips. And if I ever get a grill, then it'd be a nicer ride for both of us than a dual sport which can do 80mph but not that safely.

>>17608786
>So its going to cost a shit ton more and offer about the same performance.

And that is what is expected by people. Because Ducati. Ive gone over this before...they get significantly more motor to accomplish the same tasjk correct? would it be fair if the japs got to run 1200cc inlines against the 1200cc twins? Well of course not that would be bloody murder. So Ducati chose an engine design that isn't as competitive to the point that it needs additional displacement just to compete in the class. So the japs have to essentially sandbag just to give Ducati a chance. Then you look at the pricepoints...Ducati is almost always more expensive even by your own admission.

Conclusion:
>Ducati overpriced/underpowered

boutique bikes

>>17608591
I really liked the fj09 I test rode, the engine is really nice and it had quite good handling. Also has the option for luggage if you want to do a little bit of touring

>>17608881
>I'm 21 so insurance would rape me

As long as you're not getting full coverage it shouldn't be bad. I'm paying just over $60 a month for liability and theft.

>>17608822
>But you never brought up Superstock 1000
Nigger I LITERALLY said stk1000 in the response you quoted. Go back and re-read what I said until you understand it.

>>17608881
Sportbikes, at least mine anyway, are really uncomfortable and don´t seem to be made for really long trips. I would honestly say a cruiser would be a better option for a nice relaxing ride and for taking women on.

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>Kawasaki
>Master
>Race

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>>17608638
2016 onward they fixed the disappearing coolant problem. And apparently somewhere along the line the stuck ignition cylinders too.
I don't know the specifics, so you may want to go to the model forum for more. The CBR500R one covers all three models.
>>17608503
Indecisive...
You have a special love for stickers, or just can't commit?

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>>17608918
lol

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>>17608930
Lol.

>>17608922
I fucking love stickers. I plan on doing a proper itasha eventually though. Gonna have to paint the tank so I'm waiting for the winter.

>>17608914
>i put all my weight on my wrists because i'm fat and don't know how to sit properly

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>>17608882
When the championship was created the rules allowed 750cc 4 cylinders and 1000cc 2 cylinders. The 4 cylinders eventually got a displacement bump, with the twins promptly following through because the Italians complained that it would be too expensive to keep a 1000cc v2 competitive against a i4 of the same displacement. It was agreed then that 2 cylinder engines would be allowed 200cc extra but would have a lower state of tune as well as a 6kg higher minimum weight.

Once again I must point out how foolish you come across when you say 'more motor' without taking the number of fucking cylinders into consideration. It would not be fair if the japs run 1200cc i4s because those would have completely different dynamics and throw away the balance these regulations created.

It would be fair, however, if they were to run 1200cc twins against Ducati's own.

But they don't.

>B-but it's more expensive.

So what?

>>17608970
I was more talking about the seat that feels like sitting on a brick wall, but okay

>>17608893
Do you eat glue for breakfast or are you just Australian

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>>17608996
Come on now, anon, it's not th...

>>17609006
Looks comfy

>>17609006
is this a ski doo?

>>17609006
>YART
no idea why this made me giggle

>>17609001
My Kawasaki eats Ducati's for breakfast yes. And it's not my fault that reading comprehension is lacking.
Superstock1000=stk1000 Everything I said is factual.

http://www.worldsbk.com/en/results%20statistics

>>17608600

kekd

>>17609039
>he's trying to justify buying a Kawasaki over something better
Oh, it all makes sense now.

>>17608934
And Honda has designers that are actually good at designing things. I have a hard time liking modern car/motorcycle styling, but when it comes to Honda motorcycles, they make some good ones.
>Africa Twin in both red/white/black and red/white/blue
>2017 CBR1000RR/600RR in red/white/black
>Interceptor in white
>CRF250L Rally, good design wasted on slow pos
>Grom is a meme but it looks good for what it is, they made a tiny ass 125 sell like hotcakes
>NM4 looks weird but they took the risk, lots of companies spit out futuristic concept vehicle designs but never actually put them into production
>Honda Bulldog, we're still waiting on it but they're trying something new and interesting, not making everything look like a shiny plastic vacuum cleaner
So gud work honda

Just installed a tail tidy for my 390 duke and it has gaps on the side... not tight for water/dirt REEEE

This isn't the first one I've used either, nothing fits quite right. Do I superglue or hot glue the little gaps? But then I can't take it off..

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>tfw just got back from a three hour ride

What headlight should I buy for my DRZ? The giant cube stock one looks like poo. I'm thinking some china special off of aliexpress

>>17609054
you could use something like silicone caulk that wouldn't be too hard to remove

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>>17608922
>disappearing coolant
>stuck ignition cylinders

anything else to watch out for?

Are there better sport nakeds to shoot for that dont go full kamen rider but also dont use the old cereal bowl headlamps

>>17609068
chink lights will give you unacceptable light output. the stock drz headlight is pretty good for a bike if you have it angled right

I've seen the pink cb400sf in the chinese puppet show, of course, and I've seen a couple of pics of real pink ones with stonefaced asian men holding them - but was pink a legit color that it was offered in, or are all the real pink ones aftermarket?
idle curiosity, given these points >>17609048 about honda's design choices.

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I went motocamping with a grill the last four days. Doubt any of you care but I'ma blog post real quick anyways

>SF -> Sequoia National Park
>100+ degrees in beating sun for 4 hours until we got into the mountains
>Klim Badlands suit performed alright with all the vents open but was still no fun
>forgot rain fly for tent because I'm a retard so had to buy a tarp
>went hiking twice because GF is /out/, was alright but wished I was on a dirt bike the whole time
>fucked on the top of a mountain in both Sequoia National Park and King's Canyon National Park
>rode CA 180 through the mountains which was great
>GF tracked her bike recently so thinks she's Sanic in the canyons, was going dangerously fast, used to be slow as all fuck
>watched most of One-Punch Man on my laptop
>rode home, was only 90 degrees lol
>was on the cords of my rear tire for the last hour

>>17609048
>Grom is a meme
Its a $3000 toy.

And it does a fantastic job of being one. That said if I'm buying a $3000 toy bike I'd be tempted to get one of those mini choppers.

>>17608975
First of all we are talking about two distinctly different applications for the bikes: professional racing, street, and non-professional racing. And then you have different types of racing such as LSR, 9/10th, 1/8th mile, 1320, etc. Ducatis are non-existent relatively speaking when it comes to drag racing. They are relatively non-existent when it comes to street racing. They are relatively non existent when it comes to LSR. They are minimally existent when it comes to non-professional roadtrack racing. They are primarily represented in professional racing. So off all the places we could see them, we see them in relatively few places. Do you disagree? On the streets that 200cc advantage in displacement becomes 300cc's of advantage or more specifically 286-287cc advantage when competing against a 998/999cc 4-cylinder. So how can we level the playing field? Well we can look at a duc 4 (street /because that is what WE buy) vs a jap 4 street. But what qualifies? Well, the desmo was a 989cc V4 and we know that it put out about 160-165whp compared to the jap 4's putting out more at the same time in history. But there is more to consider isn't there? WHAT is the PRICEPOINT? If a Ducati costs 75k and the jap bike costs 12k don't you think that is telling? So now even if the jap wasn't comparable performance to the duc what might a person do? Buy the 12k bike and upgrade it/personalize it to their liking while still spending less money to have a motorcycle that will outperform the much more expensive duc? YUP. Ultimately, Duc offers comparable performance at a significantly higher pricepoint. Do you disagree? Nope. What other conclusion can I come to? So for people to be really attracted to the ducs they have to be attracted for OTHER reasons than performance. That is to say: status, looks, etc. This is by definition a boutique bike. This is why those most interested in this class of bike are usually interested in a much better performance per dollar spent.

>>17609092
but mai baiku is black down there, isn't that white?

>>17608975
Right the japs don't run a 1200cc twin or a twin at all because they know that they get a better powerplant in the 4 cylinders. THAT is why they run the 4 cylinders whether that be an linline or a V4 and regardless of firing order, etc.

Duc has been focused on the twins for the torque advantage and then have tried to negate the initial drawback of the twin to begin with. Let me ask you a direct question: Why don't the 4's run the same cc size as the twins? Why don't the 4's get an additional 200cc's over the twins? Because it was decided that the only way for the twins to be competitive with the 4 cylinder powerplants is to get extra displacement. Right? Yes I say, "more motor" because they get to literally run a larger motor! The side effect right off the bat is more torque, no one is debating that. So you admit that if they were allowed the same size displacement that the Ducati would not be competitive correct? Answer that question. We already both know the answer to this don't we. a 999 twin would get anal blasted by a 999 4 cylinder. So again and finally:

>Ducati
>Overpriced (by your own admission)
>Underpowered (by your own admission)

Sorry to hurt your feelings. It's just the truth.

>>17608914
former cruiser owner here, buy a v-strom instead. it's so comfy my wife falls asleep on it

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>>17609095
Like I said, mate, it got fixed.
The new lineup are some of the most reliable bikes on the market. Look for a 2016 leftover. They're literally 5k for all but the cbr.

>>17609047
I bought a Kawasaki because it isn't a boutique bike. Other bikes would suffice as well but the Kawasaki offered excellent performance for the money spent. Unlike the ducs.

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>>17609095
My 2014 CB500F had a recall notice for excess sealant on the starter solenoid and a n issue with the fuel float arm, so make sure that either the previous owner got them done or you get them done. As its a recall it should be free anyway

>>17609196
I like the 650 over the 1000 personally

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>Oh... I guess there's no Raimu-senpai in a world without motorcycles...
the horror
THE HORROR

>>17609112
I was just hoping to get something sleeker, I'll keep looking around.

>>17609161
It's clear, or at least you can get clear

>>17609122
if I had disposable income I would probably buy a grom or z-125. They look stupid fun, but man are they impracticable unless you live in a big city

>>17609217
pls no
>still no Raimu body pillow

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>>17609220
>raimu
>not best gril

>>17609210
Fucking Indonesia. Why can't we have jap-built us-assembled smallbaiku again?

>>17609229
I love Rin, and she does have a body pillow you can buy, but it's too desperate-sweaty-weeb looking, I just wanna shitpost pictures of it here and make my GF slightly uncomfortable.

>>17609204
Well Im really trying to spend around $3500 a few months from now, maybe next spring if winter isnt a good riding season.

>>17609219
>but man are they impracticable unless you live in a big city
>tfw ATX
I'd tear Lamar and Guadalupe a new asshole with a Grom. But I also really want to fart around west campus on a mini chopper dressed like Hunter S. Thompson

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>>17609229
Diseased monstrosity.
Best girl at left.

>>17609240
Frizzy a shit
She's the wrong kind of crazy

>>17609236
kek

>>17609229
Rin gets too autistic about suzuki, Shaggy's a greedy jew and rides a shitbike, Hane is retarded. The only answer is Raimu-senpai.

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I wish a grill like Raimu would notice me

>>17609237
Take a look at the changes, then go to model forum to see if fixes exist. It's not even a bad bike, with the quirks.
Dealerships are just too hit/miss nowadays. Can't trust them to fix shit anymore.

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>>17609251
>implying grils ride motorcycles

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>>17609219
Some people do Buell XB Lightning headlight conversions on their DRZ. I think it looks pretty good and it allegedly has great light output.

>>17609219
Great thanks anon

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ok i finished bakuon
what's this from, i'll work on it next

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>>17609267
hey, that looks pretty good

>>17609251
but dude, she's like 40

>>17609339
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=anime+with+cat+motorcycle+helmet

>Hey, you listed a sale ad for your motorcycle on the weekend, i'm interested in seeing it
>well i'm on the other side of the city so you'd have to travel all the way here to see it
>and my price is firm, i just put a new seat on it
>oh and i'm going away for two weeks so you'll have to wait

moving on then

>>17609349
baird why are you such a passive aggressive faggot?

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>>17607288
thoughts on the r nine t?

Just test rode one today and was a blast. Those boxer motors are definitely unique, what does /dbt/ think?

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>>17609349
thanks baird! <3

>>17609368
boredom mostly

>>17609339
Dont watch its garbage. Has almost nothing to do with notorcycles and the story is ridiculously contrived.

>>17609390
why didnt you come to real SAM if you are so bored?

>>17609383
I like the stock tailtidy. Everyone says its hideous but I like it best stock.

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>>17609386
whoops, saved wrong thing

>>17609391
the gifs look cute, it's a start
but yeah I'm not expecting something with, say, the autism of making sure the duc actually sounded like a vtwin

>>17609383
It's beautiful and a great bike if you get the 15k one with upside down forks. Little expensive, and personally I don't know if I want an air-cooled bike, but if you like it then go for it.

>>17609402
Its not that the motorcycle sounds wrong, the shows just shitty.

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>>17609399
I did.

>>17609417
I think I'm starting to get it
SAM actually happens two or three times a year, and the S stands for Small

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>>17609339
Drrr. Not explicitly bike-anime, but it's pretty good. Pulp Fiction style storytelling.

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>>17609430
most of dbt was too scared of leaving pavement to show up

>>17609408
I love it, just trying to get rid of my f800r at the moment before getting it. My dealer has a used one with over 5k in bolt on customs from rizoma, which isnt anything super noticeable but cool I guess

>>17609400
I dont hate it, but im such a fan of the LED brake light strip that id rather have it off

>>17609436
>Sandy American Meet

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Are 90's bikes unreliable?

I know old bikes are considered problematic, but that's based on 70's bikes, which were unreliable.

This bike has new tyres and a new instrument panel, it looks like it's been taken care of. And it's the correct colour for a honda :^)

>>17609432
will I like it if I liked Ergo Proxy?

>>17609460
weeb

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Is there such thing as a bike that's not fun to ride?

>>17609468
Bikes i have ridden

Honda 50cc scooter
fun
Honda Daelim 110cc city
fun
Honda supercub
fun
cg125
fun
russian cg125 clone
fun
125cc cruiser
>not fun
250cc cruiser
>not fun
300cc Ninja
fun
CBR250
fun
500cc cruiser
fun
cb400
fun


i've ridden a lot of bikes. the only three i have found not fun are the CBR125f, and cruisers of 250 and below

>hear buzzing when hitting certain RPM
>check all over to find what's loose
>a bolt fell out of my skid plate

damn it, I was too lazy to walk 20 feet to get the loctite when putting it back on

>>17609454
Looks like it's in pretty good shape. You should be fine so long as you're willing to do a little maintenance as things pop up.

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>>17609460
Yes, and I get why people draw comparison with the state of the industry.
But the show is less Evanescence grimdark and more Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels.

>>17609468
Only bike i've ever ridden that wasn't fun was a full bagger HD.

>>17609489
Not as bad as me, I was too lazy to put my skidplate back on after did my last oil change so I just said I'll throw it back on after I do my next one.

>>17609468
BMW K75
GL1000 with no front brakes and 40 year old controls

Only things I've ever disliked riding. Haven't ridden a bagger though.

>>17609485
wew, I never even knew they made cruisers that small. I can second the 300 ninja being damn fun, I almost want to pick one up as a commuter.

>>17609454
Yeah, that's pretty clean looking.
Even the carbs look well taken care of, and you can literally just let Honda carbs rot, so long as you ride three times a week.

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>>17609495
Ayy, you know how you forgot to put that washer/shim in on your kx clutch the first time? Where did it go? Behind the clutch basket?

>>17609534
I don't remember, I just checked the microfiche on an OEM parts website.

>>17609529
>>17609485
I knew a guy who had a 250 cruiser, it was woeful

>>17608129
What this Anon said.
My transition visor is the single best motorcycling purchase I've ever made, with the exception of actual motorcycles.

>>17609546
Yeah I've checked mine and it doesn't show one but I know for a fucking fact there was one there cause I remember loosing it

>>17609495
cb400 wannabe guy here
I'm going to contact the seller of the red bike, what should i be on the look out for when buying this bike?

>>17609630
If the owner seems like someone who takes care of their shit and it looks like it's been taken care of you're probably good. If you're not mechanically inclined you should try and bring someone who is. Check for leaks and scratches, see if the controls feel good and all of the lights work properly, if the chain is lubed and how much brake pad is left, make sure it goes through all the gears.

>>17609694
I think he did what many people here do, buys a motorbike and then finds that the city is a cunt to ride in with an average traffic speed of under 40kph.

>>17609630
CB 400's are great and a 90's one should still be reliable and give you many years of enjoyment provided it hasn't been abused.
I don't understand why you don't get a newer one.
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/lane-cove/motorcycles/cb400sf-evo/1155071901

>>17609731
>https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/lane-cove/motorcycles/cb400sf-evo/1155071901
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
money

I'm in Korea and really don't know how long im going to be here for, i hate this job but managed to get stuck in it

>>17609803
It might be exaggerating but alot of people wouldn't want to be living in South Korea at the moment considering the occasional threats to nuke the place and all the artillery guns pointed at it.

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i want to fuck the suzuki

>>17609819
that's one fucking ugly headlight. Why can't they just give it a fucking normal round headlight? is that too much to ask? Fuck yeh I'd buy a retro supernaked.

>>17609830
>butterface

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when the fuck is yamaha gonna step up their 2 stroke game
>same 250 engine for the last 10 years
>come out with the yz250x
>literally rehash 250 with flywheel weight
>claim to be all new ultimate 2 stroke offroad machine
>when we say ultimate we mean ultimately unchanged from the original

like really yamaha, why not a hydraulic clutch, or a 300cc, fuck even an electric start

>>17609844
Why? Yamaha is leaps and bounds ahead of the Japanese two stroke competition, because they are the only Japanese manufacturer still making two strokes. The only other competition is KTM, who they can't beat without investing more money than they'd ever get out of it, so why not keep doing what they're doing and getting all the customers who can't afford a KTM or believe the frame snapping meme.

>>17609844
motorcycles are a niche market.
2 strokes in western countries are a very, very niche part of that market, basically motocrossers who are too edgy for high performance 2 strokes. Or perhaps a diminishing junior commuting market (less and less so).
It's on the way out.
If you want a 2 stroke I'm pretty sure KTM (DANGER, STAY AWAY) has a new 2 stroke with EFI.

I picked up this 2009 Monster 696 for 5k today. Has only 3k miles on it and just got new belts, a new battery, and the valves checked. Smashed a testicle readjusting myself on the seat at one point, but the rest of my 2 hour ride home was magical.

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>>17609874

Whoops forgot pic.

>>17609877
that's really cool mate.

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>>17609237
>>17609204
ayyy

>>17609860
true, i just dont want to see yamaha shit the bed and stop making 2 strokes because they cant compete with competition say, 5-8 years down the road

>>17609861
i have a 2015 yz250, i love it, it'd just be sad to see them not make enough sales and decommission the 2 stroke 250, but i feel it's high unlikely today, but who knows in the future

>>17609909
well, AMD still makes graphics cards. If there's only two competent suppliers there's usually enough market share to go around, no?

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>>17609923
you got a point there, thank god theres only 3 competitors now instead of 5

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How many bikes have you owned /dbt/?

>1997 ninja 250 (sold)
>2003 Honda CBR1000rr (rekt)
>2007 Suzuki GSX-R750(sold)
>2008 Harley Davidson XR1200(stolen)
>2001 Harley Davidson Fat Boy(stolen)
>2012 ninja 650(still own)
>2013 ninja 300(sold)
>2012 vstar 250(still own for some reason)
>2005 Ducati monster 620 dark(S O L D)
>2005 Suzuki boulevard c50(sold)
>2001 yamaha road star(current daily driver)

>>17609954
>(S O L D)
what did she mean by this?

>>17609954
>1973 Honda mini trail (still own, completely fucked)
>1982 Yamaha RT100 (sold)
>2001 Yamaha YZ85 (sold)
>2002 Yamaha YZ125 (sold)
>2005 Suzuki DR650 (sold)
>1970 BSA 650 Lightning (still have in the same pile of parts I got it in)
>2006 Triumph Daytona (current ride)

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>>17609965
It seemed like every time I turned the thing on it cost me $50 to fix something. No joke within the first 2 weeks of ownership it cost me $1800. By the time I sold it I didn't trust it to get me to work and back without dying.

>>17609954
2003 CBR1000RR? they didn't come out until 2004

>>17610019
What is a typo?

>>17609251
What happen to ZX12R britbong anon? Did he sell his baiku? He wasn't allowed to ride that bike on his license if I recall.

>>17610037
what part was the typo?

Tfw too hot to ride even at night

Tfw you do it anyway
God bless florida

>>17609383
I sometimes ride my dad's moto guzzi griso (somewhat of a contemporary). Its a good bike, too heavy/wide and powerful for me though. I prefer lighter bikes and being able to run through the gears on the streets.
The bmw is cool though.

>>17610070
The 2003. My sausage thumbs sometimes jam the key next to the one I mean to hit on my phone. Autocorrect usually fixes it but with years there's no such luck.

Anyone else notice how the apuposters are always up when it's American time? Really makes you wonder...

>To get her up and running beautifully needs a carb rebuild and 2 tires
Is this a no-go for you while shopping around?

>>17610134
>carb
Stopped reading there.

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>>17610089

Gotcha kinda figured but wasn't sure

...it went 919, 929, 954, 1000
I rode the 919rr, the 954rr, and the 1000rr but the 2nd gen (06) and even owned a cb919 never got to ride the 929rr. Did your first gen 1000rr have the hesd or? Matter of fact my bud picked up a cheap 919rr hes been trying to get road worthy...here take a look

>>17610145
Thanks.

>bike i bought a month ago got stolen from my garage
FUCK YOU FUCK LIFE I AM KILLI G MYSELF FUCK IT WAS MY FIRST BIKE

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>>17610153
why upside downwtf

>>17610175
Who cares, it was only like 3k at most.
Right, anon? You did buy used for your first bike because you aren't a complete idiot, right? You didn't buy a toy you can't afford to lose, right?

>>17610175
what bike?

If I've been riding a 250 for the better part of a year, is it okay to go up to a 600?
6'1" 145lbs

>>17610240
yes just don't be dumb and you'll be fine

>>17610175
>not having a cement anchor for your bike in your garage

New when

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ubbsidedown

>>17610291
get down from the roof, mr bike

Think the naked 650 bikes from the japanese guys are beginner friendly enough? Looking at the newer SV, FZ, and Z

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>>17610077
>tfw wanted to ride after work but it started raining

It's almost suicide riding in our rain-forest storms, specially with tourists that immediately go full retard when there is rain.

What's with the Ducati negationist ITT?

>tfw legs are too long for a supersport
>tfw nakeds and sports tourers are as aggressive as it gets

5'10" with a fucking 33" inseam jesus christ (and a 30" waist so nobody sells motorcycle pants that actualyl fit me). i can't sit on jack shit for more than five minutes because my knees go past the fairings

>>17608308
You just have random anime all over, right? That's super gay.

At least nip itabikes show dedication to one thing

>>17608622
WSBK: Honda races the i4 they'll actually sell you
MotoGP: Honda races the v4 they won't sell you without vtec and 550lbs of combined ABS shit

>>17610331
yes they are good choices and something that can keep you happy for quite a while