JAPANESE ORIGINALITY

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>>17599615

>F-body idea steal

FTFM

Do you value Originality over copy/facsimile?
>McDonald's spends time and money researching locations.
>Burger King builds where McDonald's is.

One of the ways Japanese keep there costs down is to let the competitor test the market for trends, styling, consumer wants, then copy.

It is a synergistic marketing solution, that broadends the market.

The Japanese take less risk, have fewer failed cars/platforms.

Most American car companies are gone... but have more new ones too.

The Japanese had to make up "new" companies like Lexus, Infiniti, and Acura, just for American market.

>>17599653

Yes, I value originality a lot more. Westerners have brought beautiful cars into this world out of nothing and I am really grateful for it.

There's something so special about how Italians were able to grasp aesthetics so well to create marvelous and unique machines like the Testarosa, F40 or the Countach. Designs which will forever survive the test of time. The same can be said about the 70's Muscle car designs.
Keeping the costs down is a good thing I guess, but man wouldn't it be great if Japanese were are good as inventors as westerners and we could see what they could come up with? I am also very interested in why this is the case. I wonder how much genetics comes into play here, we know Japs have lower Test levels so that might make up for being so risk adverse.

>>17599615
- The concept car NSX was based on was designed by Pininfarina before the Testarossa was released, which Pininfarina also designed. Basically Europoors became a one-trick pony.
- MR2 is a mid-engined AE86 that happened to look similar to supercars at the time.
- Can't argue with the Celica. Japanese companies were ripping off a lot of designs during the 60s-70s
- AE86 looks very different from the Foxbody, use some glasses.

Also, the Mazda RX-7 is still subjectively the most beautiful car to date and is an original design. Other cars that come close are Jag E-type, AC Cobra, old Porsche 911, Mazda Cosmo, and Toyota 2000GT.

>>17599615
Hnnnngggg. Those cams!

>>17599615
Old news.

>>17599668
japs love their big corporations
you have random jap toyota execs tour their factories in the US and quiz random guys on the "toyota way"
And they make everyone point where they are going at every intersections. Their workers are basically just machines.
Revolutionized reliability though.

>>17599839

>- The concept car NSX was based on was designed by Pininfarina before the Testarossa was released, which Pininfarina also designed. Basically Europoors became a one-trick pony.


You are saying Italians actually designed the NSX and a counterpoint? Not sure what you mean by one trick pony in this case, unless you are implying Italians were setting up Japs.


The RX-7 and most of the Mazda Line look like they were ripping off from the Corvette C line.

>>17599947

I am just glad the west is not that way.

Do you live in the 80s?

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>>17599970

I was born in the year 95', but there's something so unique and inspiring about the 80's in general that's hard to find anywhere else. From Music, movies, clothing and car design, it's truly a cultural masterpiece for me.

>>17599965
Warehousing in the US have tried to implement japshit. Like doing stretches start offf shit and after lunch. Having higher up managers walk around asking people questions like a pop quiz.

If it was full blown jap mentality in the workforce I would just bum at a intersection. Fuck that human robot bullshit.

>>17599999

I couldn't think of a more beautiful message to have quints to. Fuck the Asian ant-hive mentality for their workforce, it completely kills creativity and the Western spirit of innovation.

Japan makes some top quality knockoff.

>Japan>S.Korea>>>>>>>>>Shit would never drive if my life depended on it>China.

>>17600026

Yes, at least they are not Chinese in terms of knockoff quality. Some Jap cars are legit awesome, even if they are heavily inspired in Western designs.

>>17599990
>80s
>cultural masterpiece
Rose tinted glasses wearer detected

>>17599990
The 80s were hated and considered tacky until the 2010s. You must realize that you're just a nostalgiafag and learn to appreciate the time you live in because you are dying.

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>>17600042

Nope

>>17600044

>you must realize that you're just a nostalgiafag

I didn't even live through the 80's, how am I a nostalgiafag? Lmao.

>You must realize that you're just a nostalgiafag and learn to appreciate the time you live in because you are dying.


Oh yeah, it sure it's awesome with all the social justice warrior bullshit, the terrorist attacks and the immigration crisis. The shitty Justin Beiber tier music and all the look a like cars with hardly any shocking and inspiring design. God bless women with half their head shaved and hairy armpits! A cultural age where the epitome of greatness is being a twerking cuck that likes seeing his wife getting fucked in the ass while you fuck yourself with a dog shaped dong, Bad dragon Dildo.
Rad stuff, my bro.

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When they try to be original you hate on them anyway, so why bother?

Buy what you like.

>>17600083

There's a different between tasteful originality and doing some random shit that just doesn't look good. Being different is not enough, it must be beautiful too.

>>17600072
oh look a retard trump voter who needs a safe space

>>17600102

I am not American.

>>17600072
>>>/pol/
you stupid le wrong generation faggot

>>17599952
>RX-7
it rather looks like a 944

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>>17600102
>>17600121

Right here, one of the only good two things about this generation,

>1- Making liberals mad as hell by telling truth without any sugar coating
>2- How easy it is to get pussy since most of the competition are numales watching my little pony.

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>>17600132
get your generation politics off /o/ and stop derailing
>>>/pol/

also japan cars have always been copies

>>17600147

Fuck off, I am not the one who mentioned /pol/ nor made this political. If triggered fags get buttmad, they can go fuck themselves back to >>>/lgbt/.


This thread has nothing to do with politics.
>>17600125

You are right, I guess even the mighty FC line was taking heavy inspiration for the Italian cars.

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>>17600091
You hate when it's beautiful too.

You're just full of hate. Nobody uplifts and encourages anymore. They just take a dump in the middle if the room and start flinging it.

>>17600171

That thing is not beautiful in my eyes. I am not sure what the fuck you are on about, sounds like mommy didn't like your 5 year old drawings or something.

Some modern cars are beautiful, the issue is that most modern cars are expensive as fuck. What could have bought you something nice looking back in the 80's buys you a fucking FWD numale looking turd of a car.

>>17600072
Exactly my point. You glorify a past that you didn't live through. You are a secondary nostalgiafag. The 1980s had its share of middle eastern conflict and progressive movements. Looking like a homosexual became acceptable in the 80s. Most people who grew up in the 50s and 60s would have hated the faggy synth and new wave garbage. Angular cars that looked like they were designed by the best of Ford's budget engineer team and Gooky McGookson Inc. design team armed with rulers and a hatred for curvy 1950s and 60s design. Women actually started wearing pants suits and began the trend of avoiding family life. Divorces shot up, drug use increased, HIV began, hip hop music moved into the mainstream.

You have no perspective. Every decade is shit in its own way.

>>17600195

I am aware of that, but the 80's won't stop being aesthetically pleasing to me for that reason alone. Things either are, or they are not pleasing to the eye, the rest are irrelevant details.

>>17600203
I've got no problem with that.

I'll enjoy it when kids born in the 2020s begin retroactively getting into 2010s culture. Get ready for the retro new twerk phenomenon of the 2030s.

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>>17600251

>retro new twerk phenomenon of the 2030s.


The future is looking grim. I honestly believe things will move towards conservatism in the future, it cannot be that each generation continues to grow liberal until each person is considered nothing but a gender less mass of floaty cosmos stuff. How will teens rebel against their liberal parents otherwise?
I hear gen Z is cooking up to be a melting pot of fascism.

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>>17600194
Your eyes need to be checked. The new LS and LC are two of the most beautiful cars to come out of Japan in a long time, specifically the coupe.

All the other GT cars it's competing with, the S-Coupe, the 6-Series, the Conti GT are all literal bars of soap with melted details. The LC looks like it was chiseled with a Samurai's sword from a solid block of carbon fiber, and the details are stunning throughout.

Maybe the original SC coupe, maybe the Z32, but I can't think of a single other Japanese coupe with such attention to detail in a successful overall design since the 2000GT.

>>17600282
>solid block of carbon fiber
what did he mean by this

>>17600282
The s class coupe and the 6 series are in two different classes

>>17600282

I am simply not a fan of the over Chiseled stuff, that's all. They look a lot better than 90's and the early 2000 cars, that's for sure.

>>17600275
I'm a firm believer that it's cyclical. The 60s had hippies as a reaction to post-war conservatism. The 80s grew more conservative in response. Then the 10s came to a head with SJWism that's tired people out. And each generation of children wants to react against the status quo, so no surprise that Gen Z tends to be conservative.

>>17600309

That might be the case, it's going to get interesting imo. If all goes to shit, at least I'll have we'll have VR porn.

>>17600309
On the whole society has only gotten more liberal.

It's big government gelling the private citizen what they can and can't do that's continually going out of style.

Hence why not only will you have VR porn but you'll be able to watch it while completely stoned in the near future.

Everyone knows this. What they don't want to admit is that they(Japs) improved on the designs. Engineering wise, of course.

>>17600362
>big government telling...is going out of style
lol. big government has only gotten bigger since 9/11. you just don't remember what it was like beforehand.

>>17600366
Your boy Drumpf wants to end Obamacare, and the EPA among others but can't seem to get it done, despite controlling the Executive brannch and both houses of Congress...

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>>17600499

Politics have always been a circle jerk. At least we didn't elect a fucking war criminal into office, facing as a herald for women while silencing the voices of the women his husband grabbed by the pussy.

>>17600532
Yes mang the public is generally happy we ended up with a Russian oligarch rapist instead.

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>>17600541

There are no perfect solutions in the real world, I am just thankful Bernie was a big cuck, sacrificing himself for a women, as betas like to do. (Hurr durr socialism, but look at me driving a 100k car! No refunds!!).


A Jewish commie would have been 100 times worse than that crooked, mentally hill woman, well unless Hillary was actually gonna go through with demonizing the Russians as a scapegoat and starting WW3.

Original looks don't win races. Fancy designs are an unnecessary risk.

>>17599668
Japan has invented plenty. They're just not artistic faggots who need everything to be fancy. Performance is prioritized over shallow flair (aka an individuality substitute for people who have none of their own)

>ah very nice car, ramen sushi sama
>but it doesn't rook coor and unique enough. How wirr the driver stand out in a crowd?
Said no jap ever

>>17600541
>the public
the public doesnt know whats best for them
its the entire reason we have governments in the first place

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a-am i wrong for wanting to buy one of these, lads

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>>17600575

Art is an expression of the self. Individuality is not substitute for anything, because individuality is a inner thing. People who can relate to designs, is because they can see something in it they can relate to, and that's why they like it.
Japs are not as creativity or individualistic, so any expression of their inner self comes out as bland, look like of other things that hardly anyone can relate to. Performance is best left to machines.
To be creative, is to be human.
>>ah very nice car, ramen sushi sama
>but it doesn't rook coor and unique enough. How wirr the driver stand out in a crowd?
>>>Said no jap ever

Right, because Japan is not well known for being an eccentric as fuck country where people walk around dressed as their favorite anime characters and other crazy shit. Jap is full of annoying and obnoxious twinks wanting to be special and unique racebois.


You kidding, dude?

>>17600560
>WW3 caused by Hills

That's some Limbaugh/Alex Jones tier propaganda right there. WW3 is already in motion; its Putin's endgame. Drumpf causing a ruckus in North Korea only sets up Russia to unite with them, Syria and China against the U.S., who will be led by Commander-in-Chief Lizzie Pocahontas Warren.

>>17600582
The public knows what's best, which is what elections are for.

Russia knows this as well. It's Americans who are too lazy and/or uninformed to care that are screwing it all up.

>>17600594
Good thing cars are machines, huh...

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>>17600604

It all makes sense now! It was him! Drumpf all along!

>>17600613

Conceptualized by Humans, huh...

>>17600586
yup. It's a girl's car anon

>>17600611
>The public knows what's best, which is what elections are for.
if thats the case why aren't we using the popular vote instead of electoral college

>>17600586

>FWD


Yes, very wrong.

>>17600627
Because affirmative action for white people is deemed necessary, by white people.

>>17600282
LC is super unique that's why it's the Japanese clone of the DB11. Look at the rest of the horrid Lexus line when you want to see jap originality

>>17600594
Art is an expression of what you want people to see as your self. It's just a form of communication and is more used for facetious purposes than not.

Muh art is to be human is what flaming faggot children tell themselves world wide. I'm expressing myself, look at me, etc. Even the new generation in nipland. Normally while missing the point and making flashier and edgier art to say they are unique. Like your picture.

The last time art was not so facetious, it was religious...

>>17600611

No, the public really doesn't know what's best most of the time. That's like saying children know what's best for themselves and parent's should look over.


The average IQ in around 98 in America, that's dull as fuck. No one at the top is a drooling retard, no matter how much you want to believe it is so.

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>>17600640
>be libcuck who can't justify why a former first lady with all the experience in the world lost to an orange television personality
>m-muh white people!
BTFO lol

>>17600643

>Art is an expression of what you want people to see as your self.


You said it yourself, art is a form of communication. So how could all art be nothing but an expression of what you want others to see yourself as? Obviously that's nothing but one of the messages one can communicate through art.

>Muh art is to be human is what flaming faggot children tell themselves world wide.

That's like saying ''Muh language'' is what flaming faggots say worldwide because teens LiKe tO TaLk LiKe DiS oN SoCiAl MeDia.


What a silly thing to say. It completely ignores all the great works of literature that were made, the same way you ignore all the great works of art and categorize the language as something only Deviantart wannabe furry artists use.

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>>17600640

Affirmative action was made by liberals, though. Because they honestly believe minorities cannot succeed without white people making things easier for them.

>>17600652
It was literally white people that carried Trump to victory despite losing the popular vote.

He won more white demographics than McCain did in 08 and more than Romney did in 12, meaning he won more electoral delegates. Trump literally won more elite white delegates than Hillary did. This has already been reported extensively.

>>17600696
>This has already been reported extensively.
and i'm sure you eat all of it up you fucking cuck
enjoy the next 8 years lmao I sure will

>>17600683
And the Electoral College was made because white people didn't trust the rest of the population, i.e. nigs and spics, with choosing a president.

It's affirmative action for whites, by whites, to ensure a stronghold at the top of the government.

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>>17600696

You say that like white people are supposed to forget about their own interests and opinions, and do whatever minorities and women want them to do. What a silly and racist thing to say.


American was made by white people.

>>17600708
I am enjoying the implosion of democracy actually. Stop projecting. Through the ashes will rise a strong er and more pissed off liberal machine the likes of which hasn't been seen since the 60s.

>>17600667
And why are you comparing fucking car design done for profit to italian masters and not to deviant art kiddos?

Because that's the level I see it on. It's cheap COMMERCIAL art that communicates an image, and is a limited format that can't do much else without shitheaps of graphics and straight up non functional items like gargoyles on your bumper and bass relies on your A pillars.

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>>17600713

>It's affirmative action for whites, by whites, to ensure a stronghold at the top of the government.


Sounds good to me. I've yet to see a successful country funded and build by nigs and spics. Every minority wants a piece of the cake they didn't bake.

>>17599668
I wouldn't exactly call it a copy if they got a Ferrari designer to design the NSX. If someone is good at what they do, why wouldn't you want them to do the job you need done, well? Also, American cars suck dick, so many proprietary one time tools needed, and over all retarded engineering choices all around, due to America letting literally everything go to whoever will do it cheapest, including automotive engineers.

>>17600713
>blame hillary losing on affirmative action
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WycwDYlOCDw
well if she won then we would REALLY have affirmative action for white people, considering she has been a racist since the 60's.

>>17600730
>I've yet to see a successful country funded and build by nigs

Try America?

The country was built on the backs of niggers. We ripped them from their homelands to farm the fields and grow the young American economy into the industrious powerhouse it subsequently became.

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>>17600727

Well, here's the thing. Almost everyone considers Italian car design to be beautifully aesthetic. I've yet to see Devianart tier art that can approach such perfection.


Also, using function as an excuse is not really going to work, since function is a priority in military vehicles and the west has simply, the most beautifully functional military machines ever built.

Brrrt?
F14 Tomcat?
BF109 Messersmicht?
P51?
SpitFire?
M1 Abrahams?
SR-71?

There you go, Function and creativity as one. Find me anyone but the West making the best combination of both on this Earth.

shouldn't all cars in one class look the same since there can only be one ideal aerodynamic configuration for an object of a given width and length?

all racecars look pretty much the same
all race bikes look pretty much the same

sedan? you choose between a blocky dodge and a toyota blob.

>>17600749
>nigs can only build a country when used for mindless labor while freeing up whites for thought

not helping your race there buddy

there are plenty of well developed patches in africa where people actually learned how to take care of and develop the infrastructure colonials left behind.

>>17600749

The niggers were nothing but muscle, you don't get America without white brains planning how things must work. You could have replaced nigs with robots, had the technology allowed it, and the result would have been the same. Except Detroit would still be a beautiful city today and our crime rate would go down like 50%

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>>17600741

So the issue with American cars is that they use minorities to make them?

>>17600762
>freeing up whites for though
It's a shame all that free time for thinking was completely wasted on how to keep the black man down, rather than on actual education.

Now instead we've ended up with a country with dumber high school students than virtually every other developed nation on the globe.

Less IQs, lower life expectancy, higher obesity, higher debt/income ratios... WEW America, you really outdid yourself with that "free time for thinking" and engineering fidget spinners.

>>17600760
Italian design is not beautifully aesthetic. It's gaudy shit meant to project an image of being a gigantic rich faggot, and gigantic rich faggots and people who wish they were such faggots praise it appropriately.

>Muh sexy looking millitary vehicles!
Yes, they have function and creativity in one, and you can see it because they are by and large, armored vehicles that need to have weapons systems grafted onto them. You won't really find that in cars until you look under the hood and take a long hard look at the chassis, because they do not need to be armored against the bullets of the future or have guns creatively placed for maximum efficiency.

>>17600796
we have dumber high school students because we tried to raise the black man and his retarded white friend up by making curriculum easier and "more diverse"

>different learning styles and kinds of intelligence lol
it's called learning disorders and mental retardation.

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>>17600803

>Italian design is not beautifully aesthetic

It is, it truly is.


>It's gaudy shit meant to project an image of being a gigantic rich faggot, and gigantic rich faggots and people who wish they were such faggots praise it appropriately.


Nah, that's like the people who say Mustangs are shitty cars because niggers drive them. It's a retarded thing to say.

>>17600809
Scapegoating the blacks works for crime stats, because most black people are poor (as engineered by whites), but it doesn't really work for education, which yet another institution that has been ruled by whites since its inception.

>>17600826
It truly isn't.

The only good thing an italian can make is a purely functional aerodynamic track vehicle with a plate on it. Granted, they do that a lot more than other companies because their usual business model is selling high end shit to high end customers, but it's all they can do, and people conflate run of the mill racecars with italian beauty while ignoring how fucking awful anything italian looks if it's not meant to be functional.

>>17600837
no anon. black people are fucking dumb, by choice. they are like depressed anons who spend their money on cars and jerk off to anime instead of setting up for retirement and finding a wife because they figure the future holds nothing for them anyways.

>>17600853
>blacks are in too much despair to want to rise among social ranks

No kidding. I wonder why they're in such despair? Certainly wasn't slavery, or Jim Crow, or discriminatory banking practices, or discriminatory housing practices or discriminatory drug laws.... They should have been able to pull themselves up by the bootstraps!

>>17600903
blacks are in despair literally everywhere they go. even in fucking africa, maybe 10% of blacks seek betterment and live in and build their own civilization while the rest fuck around with mud huts and communism aka "ubuntu". despair and black culture go hand in hand like being a self righteous faggot and being white.

>>17600839

You're on some bizarre mental gymnasitcs, and clearly have a bone to pick with Western design and rich people for whatever reason. You are missing the point that Westerners are capable of coming up with the most beautifully aesthetic designs, and that Japs love to copy that.


>Italian cars are not aesthetic
>But aestheticism is a side effect of functionality
>But Italian cars are functional
>But they are not aesthetic
>Well they are because they sell to high end market only!
>But they wouldn't be functional otherwise!!!


You sound like a spastic fucker, son.

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>>17600903

Right, meanwhile Asians, who have gotten nuke'd and Opium'd and get zero social and political representation in the media, went from the lowest to the top in a couple generations, out-performing whites in certain areas and becoming model citizen minorities. Yet fucking blacks, with all the wel fare, all the numales defending their dindu nuffin activities and all the programs to get blacks to succeed leads to nothing but more nigs being nigs.
Gee, I wonder why.

>>17600339
>>17600309
>>17600275
Gen Y somehow managed to forget 9/11 and are firmly conditioned by "You should hate yourself for being a WHITE FUCKING MALE" shit in schools, but they got out before the agender blobs appeared. Gen Z sees the little girl's bodybag last Bastille Day (it's been over a year already, god damn), and all the other shit, and some of them start to think it's a load of bull, although realistically it's because it swings back and forth, youth counterculture and whatnot. There is no fixing the women my age though, their subconscious submissive nature draws them to destruction.

>>17600929
Japan in particular is literally an island with minimal natural resources that has been left alone for the most part, aside from when whites interfered with the nukes.

Africa on the other hand is a vast continent that was filled with all kinds of profitable natural resources, including human labor.
Whites have invaded every inch of land on the globe with one common goal, profit. Africans weren't able to anticipate the sheer greed of the white man, hence why they didn't have the time to build a strong intercontinental defense system to keep the white man from raping their homeland.

>>17600939

>There is no fixing the women my age though, their subconscious submissive nature draws them to destruction.


Women need to be lead by men firmly once again. Women love dominance, all the cucks in our generation and doing nothing to satisfy that craving, and that's why we see a lot of white women fucking refugees, people who have survived through war and are not a bunch of sissy pansies.

Just like at the 50 shades of grade phenomenon. All this bullshit about gender quality and feminism, yet the most sell out novel for women of all time is about some rich old dudes dominant women sexually.

That explains nice guys never getting the girl too.

>>17600957

We are all humans, our history is one of war, invasion, rape and conquer. Japan have committed atrocious crimes against China too, as have Africans amonst themselves. To think of minorities are peaceful and savy creatures broken by the evl and greedy white man, is to be as ignorant of the reality you live in as it gets.


Had Black people had the technology to invade other countries, they would have done so. It just happened that Whites evolved faster to the point where they could dominate other races and conquer them. Africans, alike Abbos just didn't win the evolution race fast enough, and that's why they lost the war. Same goes from Native Americans.


Japs, Jews and Whites are simply put, the most efficient and evolved humans on this planet, and the rest perished out of their own faults.

>>17600594
Have you even seen pictures of Japan? 99.9% of the population dresses normally.

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>>17600916
Let me lay out the principles here

Italian suprcars are not aesthetic because of italian design. They are aesthetic because they are functional.
Functionality is universally aesthetic.
Functionality is objective. There is no originality or unoriginality in functionality. There is only one absolute best solution to each problem.

Italian cars/bikes with the functional aspects removed or neglected look like complete shit. They're lexus grille tier.

Japan doesn't "copy" them, or anyone really, they just play it safe and apply functional ideas (they were not the first ones to make cars and not the first ones to discover which body styles worked well, after all) with minimal original design elements because anything fancy would be taking a risk with company money - even if they have no fucking clue what is functional and what is not, because they were not the first ones to make cars. To deride them for this, and call them unoriginal, is to deride germanic people for copying this "civilization" idea from the persians. We're a bunch of unoriginal fuckers. Or, nah, we played it safe and applied functional ideas that happened to be discovered (keyword - discovered, not "created") by other people.

And, like us with civilization, japan is coming to terms with the principles discovered by others and making things that are less like direct applications, and more like inspired works. However, because they continue to play it safe, these are easily mistaken for more clones because the principles that make a car good at being a car remain set in stone and you continue to conflate creation with discovery

As for the other topic, I maintain that non-functional artistic flair in cars made today is never an expression of the true self and is entirely about commercial image. Always has been, probably always will be.

>>17600992
Yes, embrace the culture of destruction the white man has cultivated for centuries. It is natural to do so. However until the black race reaches a death talley nearly as high as the white man, they are indeed "more innocent." The problem lies within continuing to belittle and scapegoat the black race when they try to exist in other cultures, specifically one in which they were literally drgagged into by force and the subsequently thrown every obstacle to overcome.

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>>17601008

>As for the other topic, I maintain that non-functional artistic flair in cars made today is never an expression of the true self and is entirely about commercial image. Always has been, probably always will be.


That was never the topic though, you decided that was the goalpost somewhere along our conversation. Your points do nothing to counterpoint what I said originally.


That Westers were the ones to come up with the most aesthetically pleasing designs. You seem to have this notion in you that art and function are completely different things, while I see art as one of the best ways to explain function, or as a part of it in the conceptualization of a car. I have no idea what autistic ricers making shitty bling bling retarded additions to the car have to do with art and self expression.

>>17600586
No you're not wrong the other two anons are faggots. Its not the best of the celica line but it has mediocre to decent potential. If you like it, you buy it. Then find other celicafags and cruise with them.

t. Celicafag

>>17601030

To be intelligent, is to be able to overcome any obstacles that are throw at you and adapt so you can survive. If black people have not being able to do this, yet Asians have, it's clearly because Blacks are just inferior. And every metric of intelligence we have, clearly indicates this is so.


Black people behave the same way outside America. They have a countries for themselves in Africa, and despite all the orgs helping them out and giving them food, they never head their head up the waters and return to being uncivil and impulsive. White people didn't teach blacks to be cannibals, you know?


All this ''white people are evul'' crap is a bunch of malarkey made by people who are jealous of the success of others. The same way /pol/ hates Jews because they are more successful than whites.

>>17601046
>come up with

*Discover

You can not create nature.
>hey guys i just invented lift and drag
>original concepts donut steal

>that was never the topic though, you decided that was the goalpost somewhere along our conversation.
You were the one who started equating the art of car design with self expression of the soul and rambling nu-/pol/ nonsense about how nips are soulless and uncreative and white men have all the spirituality in the world.

Really, our culture just rewards nonconformity so we come up with more zany tryhard shit and put it on public display. To tell the world what to think of us, not to tell the world who we really are. I don't consider that individuality, more like hyper-individuality, to the point where so many people are trying to hold themselves to a standard of individuality that a great deal of individuality is anything but genuine. Hardly an upgrade from reserved salarymen who all dress the same but maintain anonymous blogs about a variety of creative subjects in their free time.

>>17601030
Maybe if their skin was lighter, they would have more vitamin D and not be depressed 24/7. Heyo.

>>17601064

Jesus Christ.

>>17601079

Creativity and self expression have nothing to do with spirituality mumble jumble, it's merely mathematics and physics expressed through visual means, being capable of inducing a certain feel of admiration and obsession.

You have a very different understand of what art is than I have, not that I can blame you with all the liberal arts crap. My point still stands, Nips are way less able to express or understand such concepts or find a need to express them visually like Westerns do. I am very glad Western Nations are the way they are when it comes to that.

>>17601074
>japan exits a period of isolation
>the US pretty much forces itself on japan
>japanese people see western culture
>like it because it's new and not another geisha play
>local japanese capitalize on it and make copycats

easy to understand.

japan has made original shit, like fully faired i4 motorcycles with twin spar frames, in addition to their harley copycats

whenever this happens to a culture it goes on for about two full lifetimes or so. we will all live long enough to see japan calling america unoriginal for copying their anime.

>>17601065
To believe any of this in any way is the clearest demonstration of cognitive bias. There is no rationale in criticizing your child for not overcoming learning how to swim by throwing them in the lake and then watching them drown.

>White people didn't teach blacks to be cannibals
Except for the fact that they absolutely did. Africans were not ripping each other to shreds over gold and diamonds until whites came and taught them how to do that, and why to do that. All of the aspects of black civilization that whites now claim to despise were all learned behaviors from the superior white cultures that came before them.

And you can't have it both ways. in one breath you stand up for traditional white values of conquerism and domination and then in the next you utter "don't judge us for that!" It doesn't work that way. The superiority in violence that lead to the prosperity of white culture is to be admired for its sheer audacity, sure, but don't expect black culture to pat you on the back for it whilst they are still picking up the pieces as a result of it.

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>>17601079

Car concepts don't exist in nature pal. All the variables to make one work are there as part of our physics laws, but it takes a human able to grasp it to align all the variables together and come up with an aesthetically pleasing design.


Don't be a snob.

>>17601114

I am completely fine being criticized by other races for our successes, it comes whether you are fine with it or not. What I am not going to do, is apologize for the success of my race. Specially when we have been so considerate when we didn't have to.


We left you technology and knowledge you could only dream of, and instead of growing with it you decided to bitch and destroy yourself apart instead. Africa was always a shit hole full and will always be, because Africans are the issue. Have a look at what Chinamen who are currently growing in Africa doing business think about Africans and how they fail to capitalize on the gifts colonization left you, they make a mockery out of African countries, but I guess that's just another White people's doing.
I guess black people never dindu nuffin.

>>17601119

OP clearly specified the Skyline GTR line to be one of the only original Jap concepts, though.

>>17601102
>Nips are way less able to express or understand such concepts or find a need to express them visually like Westerns do

It's more like they have the same understanding and ability, but suppress it through willpower. We're talking about one of the most primitive functions of the higher mind here. Japan has always shown that they can create and invent, but they really do not want to create things any more than necessary.

And being late to the "modern world" party can create the illusion of being shameless copycats because you're producing other peoples inventions - because you don't have many of your own to manufacture in the first place. Such as it is with vintage japanese cars. It's just what works and makes money. I believe the US went through a period like this, making vehicles that were nearly identical to germany's benzmobiles until they took that concept and built on it according to their own needs.

Modern japanese cars not meant for export to western tastes, now, are their own animal. Much like the ford model T was hardly going in the same direction benz was, despite coming from the same "stolen" idea.

>>17601117
Car concepts do exist in nature, especially car body concepts. There's only one wing that works. There's only one plain box that's the cheapest possible shit to manufacture. What is and is not aesthetic is finite, limited by the same human mind that we all have. It's not a matter of who gets there first, because everyone would get there eventually unless they were just too stupid to grasp the concept or a freakish mutant of the sort that finds inverted triangles friendly and right side up triangles threatening.

>>17601137
Make no mistake, the last thing any black individual wants or needs from any white individual is an apology for the atrocities of the great grandfather's and their father's that you celebrate. And if that's all you gathered from this discussion then we had a clear disconnect in communication.

To fail to understand history is to bet on making the same mistakes. That's all most blacks want, an acknowledgement of the tremendous setbacks that you so nonchalantly have deemed "considerate" once again alleging that the black race should be thankful for being ripped from their homeland and having it torn to shreds. Not acknowledging this past is what upsets, and is what will continue to be challenged when the ignorant among the white ranks continue ue to try to ignore it.

Alas, apologizing for being white is a phenomenon within white modern culture on its own that no black person gives any thought to.

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>>17601180

>To fail to understand history is to bet on making the same mistakes. That's all most blacks want, an acknowledgement of the tremendous setbacks that you so nonchalantly have deemed "considerate" once again alleging that the black race should be thankful for being ripped from their homeland and having it torn to shreds. Not acknowledging this past is what upsets, and is what will continue to be challenged when the ignorant among the white ranks continue ue to try to ignore it.
My only acknowledgement is that your race was given knowledge and tools they were simply not evolved enough to understand and use safely. You are primitive, and simply cannot compete on white societies, which is why you constantly bitch about your past as an excuse of why you keep failing, meanwhile the Jews who have been massacred in the holocaust by white people in the millions are at the top, and one of the most successful minorities in America.

Slavery? Gave me a fucking break, almost everyone has been a slaved of someone else in our human history. I don't see Ireland asking for any fucking acknowledgement like a little bitch.

How about you fucking thank white people for giving out their life to free your race from slavery? Gifting you knowledge and infrastructure, for all our ORG money to save children kids, feed them and give them an education, for all the courageous white people who go to Africa to help out your sad excuse for a race. Honestly, you are very fucking lucky white people haven't deported you all back to Africa where you belong.

>>17601178

>There's only one wing that works

Wrong. There's many designs that work for specific purposes, you have no idea what you are on about.


If Japs understood function as well as you describe, they would make their own stuff instead of copying Westerners. All Japs do is copy to sell to Western Markets, so they are not their own animal, they are an animal that imitates to cash in and be competitive. If they had anything unique and specific to share with the world through automobiles, they would be doing it.
Thank god I was born Italian and not some ant-hive Asian.

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>>17601265
Show me this alternative wing shaped object. Your super creative way to have downforce and good MPGs while not looking like a copycat will revolutionize everything.

Also show me which car the prius is copying because asians are subhuman robots with no souls and only italians know how to make gaudy, unreliable sh....vehicles with soul and passion.

>>17601225
Blacks and minorities will get by just fine. And when they officially outnumber whites when the census is updated in 2020, perhaps it will present more of an opportunity for learning and understanding history, as opposed to the fallacious and trite dribble being spewed here about "bootstraps" and whatnot that only further demo Strate's the whites ability to dish criticism but remain unable to accept criticism in any way.

Also I am not black anon. Perhaps in your fit of rage you started taking this too personally. Perhaps because America has now had its first black president of many black (and jew and spic and gay and tranny) presidents to come.

>Japan isn't creative, Italy is
>Ducati openly admits to the 916 being a copy of/"heavily inspired by" the honda NR750's aesthetic
>Japan has a unique style of motorcycle not made by any other country in the world
>Japan has largely defined the look of the modern performance motorcyle even though everyone else tried at some point
>Japan kicked off the idea of mass market sportbike

wait what if japan just doesn't give a fuck about cars and only likes bike?

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>>17601290

Not all wings are made to generate good MPGs. That's the point, you can play with function to generate different designs that fit the purpose you are trying to achieve. That car is hideous as fuck, you truly have to be a fucking soulless robot to drive that thing around.


Here's a good MPG car which also looks A LOT more aesthetically pleasing than the fucking Prius. Kinda happens to be Italian.

>>17601341
The prius unironically looks better than that piece of shit.

>>17601333

I don't disagree with that, I also think Japs came up with some really decent WW2 plane designs. When it comes to aesthetics though, Westerns know how to play magic.

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>>17600642
It looks nothing like a DB11 in its details. What is wrong with you all's eyes? You're reaching incredibly far to call this a clone of an Aston Martin. Really, at its core it's a modern revival of the SC from previous years, with modern Lexus characteristics, and better branding rolling it into the LS sedan family.

And IDK desu the rest of the Lexus lineup looks good to me as well. If you want boring bars of soap in varying sizes then you can continue "appreciating" Benzes and Bimmers.

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>>17601352

Are you Japanese by any chance?

>>17601367
German/English/Slavic/one thirty-second some sort of native

AKA American

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>>17601362

You are the one who need his eyes check if you can't see the Lexus is just another Jap car heavily inspired in Western design.

>>17601357
>Westerns know how to play magic.
>Ducati copies honda
>Honda stll looks better

>>17601060
>Then find other celicafags and give them blowies

FTFY

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Which western car is this copying?

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Is this a lamborghini?

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>>17601407

>>17601378
Umm, what? Nigger Japan is as "west" as it gets as of WW1.

As much as Japan itself dislikes being grouped in as a part of the modernized world, they are.

This has nothing to do with the LC being a completely successful and original design.

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>>17601424
>Already an econobox that tries to look and work like a japanese car
>Modified to look even more like a civic

Lmao why isn't america creative?

>>17601446

>Modified to look like a civic


I can't see that at all. If anything, American car manufactures have tried to imitate British car design.

>>17601385

I still find the BMW S1000RR to be the moest aesthetically pleasing bike ever made, desu.

>>17601374

I find it difficult to believe a fucking prius looks better than the Abbarth.

>>17601452
The head of design at Jaguar is Ian Callum.

The VP of design at Ford is his brother. It makes sense that everyone thinks Ford's current lineup looks like Astons and Rovers.

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>>17601452
It's all a clusterfuck of everyone ripping eachother off so you can't fucking tell who's copying who or who actually somehow came up with that shit independently without asking the designers directly.

But you do have to admit that it looks like a civic. The first gen focus looked very little like the first gen civic hatch and then they kind of converged, despite the focus postdating the civic (and the models it replaced, like the escort, again, looking nothing like the civic).

>>17601470

I see, that makes sense.

>>17601472

Not really, go back in time to the earlier rally cars and you'll find many of the cool looking JDM's are based on the Italian sport car designs of the 80's, which are inspired in the Italian rally car designs such as the Lancia Stratos.


Only the most ambitious and creative take risks with their designs, it takes some balls to do that. When a design works well, then Japs without having to risk shit, copy it and make a cheaper version to compete in the Western markets.

>>17601292

>Blacks and minorities will get by just fine.

They can't even do fine in their own countries, which is why the rush to America. No matter what happens in American in the next 30 years, Asians, Whites and Jews will continue to dominate. President Trump is the beginning of the end for this out of hand cultural Marxism that denies reality to protect the feelings of lesser people.

>>17601180

>I AM A STRONG INDAPENDANT BLACK MAN

>>17601543
>their own countries
The United States is their own country you racist pig.

>>17601599
>demean and belittle the blacks that have the audacity to be aware of history

The new lynching.

>>17601674

Wrong, the founding fathers clearly specified the US to be a white country.

>>17601686

Aware of what history? What you were primitive tribesmen killing and raping each other? That you got conquered by superior people who evolved faster than you?

That you were never Kangz?

>>17601721
The founding fathers are dead, and so are many of their ideals.


>>17601735
No. That your mothers and daughters will always prefer the satisfaction of a big black dick cumming in their anus over your tiny white penis, you cuck.

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>>17601762


>>Muh dick bix nood muggafugga

Pottery

>>17601776
Barack was quietly whispering the same thing as he fucked America long and hard.

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>>17601793

Well now Trump's in charge, mah negro. And nothing your race will ever do is going to Triumph how long and hard we fucked Africa.


Also, talking about fucking. Manlet Chinamen are swarming African and taking your women away, getting cucked by manlets with short cocks is going to be your next big thing, coupled with your ever growing famine.


Enjoy.

>>17599839
Which RX7 we talking about? Because the FC is almost identical to the Porsche 944 from the same period.

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>>17602020

What year is F3DS from? Because it looks exactly like a Corvette C5

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>>17601855
>Well now Trump's in charge
We'll have to wait and see if he can hold it together long enough.

>>17601855
>Manlet Chinamen are swarming African and taking your women away
Fuck nigger they were good enough for Thomas Jefferson they're good enough for the superior white race Chinamen too.

Nonetheless, your wives are leaving you for mudslimes now too. Any race but your own, until your race is extinct.

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>>17602042

>We'll have to wait and see if he can hold it together long enough.

8 years.

The white race will always do fine, even if your numbers are reduced the best of us will survive and reign on the top alongside the other superior races. Look at Jews, such a small number of them in America, yet the rule over the masses like no one else. Don't forget the white women that fall for lesser men are the typical white roasties only betafags fall for.

The high end doesn't want anything to do with thugs.

>>17602057
>8 years
Hue. Leave it to an American to not understand their own presidential term limits and how elections work.

>Look at Jews
Yeah almost wiped out by the ruling class of Europe. Don't think the ruling class of America won't be willing to reach a final solution for the whites that are left over.

>>17602020
FD
>>17602033
lmao no. The FD came out 4 years before the C5

>>17602090

>Hue. Leave it to an American to not understand their own presidential term limits and how elections work.

You must be retarded, I clearly implied he is going to get re-elected.

>Yeah almost wiped out by the ruling class of Europe

Yeah, and now they are the most successful minority in America. Unlike niggers, who like to bitch, cry and do crack cocaine. I don't hear Jews complaining about evul cops, yet again they are not committing crime disproportionally.

>Don't think the ruling class of America won't be willing to reach a final solution for the whites that are left over.


Not worried at all. Whites have proven themselves in war many times. We conquered you once, we still rule over you and we'll wipe you out of necessary. Just keep on nigging, sooner or later the liberal lies will fall apart and everyone is going to have to start thinking about what it means for 13% of the US population to be doing 50% of the homicides.

>>17602145
>I clearly implied he is going to get re-elected.
That's a retarded implication.

>>17602145
>they are the most successful minority in America.
Moral of the story being minorities are on the up and up and whitey only has down to go as a result.

>Whites have proven themselves in war many times.
Proven themselves ineffective at preventing the irrelevance of their race, allowing race-mixing and appropriating every minority culture as hard as they can.
>http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/hip-hop-dethrones-rock-most-consumed-music-genre-u-s-article-1.3336085

>13% of the US population to be doing 50% of the homicides.
If only we could teach them to kill more of whitey like they should...

>>17600586
A current celicafag reporting in... Yes, accurate on both counts.

No, you arent wrong for wanting one.

GT = Not the fastest car on the road by any means. But they handle good, They look good. They are enjoyable to drive. Reliable as fuck.

GTS = All the good stuff I said above, plus 60 more HP.

Get one. Drive it and enjoy it. And if anyone says something you dont like, tell them to fuck off, like any adult would. And quit trying to be liked by every other person on earth. Fact: You wont be. Ever. So how about this.... Try to like yourself and quit looking to others for validation.

Enjoy!

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>>17602200

>He wants America to look like Detroit
>Thinks blacks can survive without welfare given by Whites
>Thinks Niggers will rule if whites are out
>Forgets Asians are even more racist than Whites and Jews, and will gladly take over our position and make your life miserable

Keep an eye out for what's about too happen in Africa now that the Chinamen have arrived there. You know what they do to dogs, right? You are going to be begging for whites to comeback.


>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VmiDxStkZs

>>17601059
/k/ here. I collect Nip guns.
>Type 14 works totally different than the Luger
>Murata is also works totally different than the French Gras
BUT THEY LOOK SIMILAR THEY MUST BE THE SAME!

>>17600961
You're joking, right? Refugees are the males that ran away from a war instead of fighting for their country. They're a fucking disgrace. It's one thing if you're a 50 year old man with a family, but Europe is filled with 20 year old sissy cunts who rape in groups.

Women haven't been led firmly by the majority of men since the 19th century, hence all the "marriage sux" and "the old ball and chain" jokes from old fucks. Deep seated gender dynamics don't change. Surface level politicization for virtue signaling is what changes and is meaningless in the grand scheme.

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>this thread

>>17600724
>enjoying the implosion of democracy
LOL
retards like yourself have been saying edgy shit like that for dedecas. my personal favorite:
>America is eating itself alive
the truth is, you have no idea what your talking about. the USA isn't a straight democracy it's a republic of united States. which is working beautifully. in fact, look up the definition of republic.

>>17604286

Many refugees are also guys who don't treat women like little fragile princesses and acted like castrated dogs around them. Women crave for dominance, even if they fall for retarded dykes screaming otherwise. The meme that all dykes needs is a good fuck, it's not really just a meme.

The more men in the West become numales and ''nice guys'', the more women will crave for dominant males, and the more they'll go for retarded, but aggressive lesser males.

>>17604955
All males can't be alpha. There are more than enough retarded aggressive white males to fulfill a roastie's needs before she ages and settles on a beta engineer to support her offspring. Where's the proof that more men are becoming numales?

>>17604974

>http://www.ourstolenfuture.org/NewScience/reproduction/2006/2006-1210travisonetal.html


>''In one of the largest study of its kind, Travison et al. report a population-wide decline in Massachusetts's men’s testosterone levels during the last 20 years that is not related to normal aging or to health and lifestyle factors known to influence testosterone levels.''

Betas can become manlier by not teaching them to act like little bitches all the time, Change diets and lift weights. If they are irreversible numales, put them on testosterone injections.


It beats being a queer for the rest of your life.

>>17604772
>republic
How about you look up the definition of oligarchy instead you beta faggot, before you hurt your brain with all that "thinking."

>>17600586
I have a 2005 GT. It doesn't have much in terms of bells and whistles, but it does get great mpg and has been solid as a rock, I've put 120k miles on mine. If you really want one, make sure to get a manual. The automatic mixed with the 1zz engine is a terrible relationship.

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>>17599615
>>17599629
>>17599644
These better have dicks

>>17605392

Nope, they are real women for real men. Traps and homos not welcomed.

>>17600724

>Through the ashes will rise a strong er and more pissed off liberal machine the likes of which hasn't been seen since the 60s


Liberals don't know how to use guns, if they keep up their senseless violence against people with opposing political opinions, they are going to get shot.

>>17605478
Liberals may not know how to use guns, but they do know how to use drones.

>>17605484

Pretty sure conservative love shooting flying things.

>>17605355

Is that RWD? Can you drift it?

>>17604974

Being alpha does not mean you are an aggressive retard dudeobro. The greeks, builders of civilization were both high in IQ and high in Testosterone. That's what all men should strive to be, a great balance between intellect and drive to achieve greatness.


I

>>17605496
So do Saudis and Iranians but they didn't have much luck from Obamas drones.

>>17605529
Nobody posting on 4chan will ever be alpha, no matter how hard they try, including you.

>>17605555

Nice projection, pal. I have no issues getting work and run my own business.

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>>17601059
>>17601064
>>17601074

>>17605612

Holy fuck

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>>17599615
A Jap was responsible for Audi's cocksucking gaping grille.
http://cardesignnews.com/media/imported/253167/253167.html

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>>17605696

Maybe Japs make more soft and passive looking designs because they can't really relate to the high test and aggressive designs of western people, who are statistically higher in test.


American cars are so high test, and Italians. I fucking want to be the car and have sex with myself while listening to fucking some dark and raspy as fuck retro-wave.
Oh man, I need some cocaine.

>>17605712
I'm looking at a 2018 Chevy Malibu and a 2018 Camry on the web right now, and your post makes no sense at all.

>>17605326
>actually being that retarded

who is this small group of people that have control over America and tell me, was Donald Trump part of their master plan? Or... were all their plans shattered by the people?
look up of definition of butthurt fag and try not to hurt your brain with all that thinking.

>>17605746

Well, soccer moms are a profitable market too. That doesn't exclude the Mustang line, the Corvette and specially the FUCKING COCK RAGING INDUCING SRT HELLCAT.
OH GOD JIZZ

>>17605764
>Donald Trump

Trump is so fucking irrelevant in the big picture. It's comical how fake neo-con idiots continually trot him out like he's their savior.

Kill yourself you angsty tween bitch.

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>>17599615
Funny how Nippers shamelessly copied the shit out of Western things for over a century and they start crying when Koreans and China start doing the same thing.

Bonus: their original designs are shit too. Poetic justice if you ask me

>>17599952
>The RX-7 and most of the Mazda Line look like they were ripping off from the Corvette C line.

more like the c5 ripped the design from the fd rx7 lol

>>17599668
"Westerners have brought beautiful cars into this world out of nothing and I am really grateful for it."
>beautiful cars

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>>17605846
>being this retarded
You weebfucks have to go back to /osg/

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>>17599668

the 90's was japan's Renaissance in car design, truly unique and stylish

>wouldn't it be great if Japanese were are good as inventors as westerners

wouldn't it be great if you weren't so low IQ?

>>17605918
patents=/= innovation

I can patent a slightly modified door hinge, for example.

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>>17605924
>modifying something to be more efficient
>not innovation

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>>17605938
IMO, East Asians make occasional true great inventions, but they're much better at focusing on a thing and improving/perfecting it.

Meanwhile Westerners are at a frenzy to always think "outside the box" and only try to invent big inventions, while glancing over the polishing part.

>>17605816
>Camry
>Designed in Burgerland

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>>17605957

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>>17605846

Believe, I feel nothing but pity for you if you can't appreciate the beauty of the western designs. I am in love.

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>>17605918

I think my IQ is just fine at 125, maybe if you had better reading comprehension and were not so emotionally attached to Jap culture, you would see that this thread wasn't made to hate on Japanese products.


I don't hate japs products at all, in fact I love many of the 90's Nippon cars, even if they are heavily inspired in Western designs (NSX, MR2, RX7, AE86. Love them all).

>>17605628
White lion came first

>>17605997
Mustangs and camaros look as fat as the people if you ask me
Mark my words muscle cars are going to become soccer mom cars

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>>17606041

Those are going to be some high test thicc soccer moms, lad.

This was a really entertaining thread.

>>17602057
>>17601855
>>17602145
>>17602271
>whites will literally go extinct
>"N-No we will survive along with the jews!"

lol, delusional amerifat

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>>17607371

We'll see about that, Mr. Parrot.

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OP here. I want to draw a car for you.
Tell me which one to draw.

>>17599668
Japanese corporations promote solely based on seniority, not merit.

Also, Japanese people apply to corporations, not to job positions. You apply to the company and then they place you in what they think is best.

It's a cultural thing. Though I'm sure a case can be made for genetics playing a part.

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>>17600770
really made me think

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>>17607456
>>17607509
>>17607534

Come on, you faggots. What the fuck. Just name a car already.

>>17607679
Veloster.

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>>17607865

Almighty, might take me god knows how long. But I'll do it.

>>17607892

Off to sleep, check this thead tomorrow evening if it still up for a drawing of the Veloster.

>>17605801
>neocons
literally what?
are you even trying? do you actually think people like Lindsey Graham or John McCain or dick Cheney actually LIKE Trump? please do some research sweety

>>17610115
Neither Senator is a neo-con, and Cheney is also irrelevant, and nobody "likes" Trump.

Congrats on saying absolutely nothing, sweetie.

>>17610135
except both are absolutely neo-cons. Cheney came out and spoke against Trump as did Jeb bush who is also considered a neo-con which you know, Trump destroyed.
try again honey

>>17610166
Except that's still wrong and still has no relevance to the original post >>17605801

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Asians make superior vehicles

deal with it

>>17610174
except you get btfo in our argument and rested to the "that's wasn't was I was saying in the beginning" defense. LOL

>>17610181
except you doubled down on your idiocy and resorted to the still not making any fucking sense defense. KEK

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>>17599615
>MR2
ayee

>>17600072
>didn't even live through the 80's
yep
so you forgot how shit it was to be there
oh wait... you only have memes

>>17599668
you sound like a hipster who needs everything to be "individually crafted" to feel special. You're not special, and you don't have anything unique to offer the world. Why would you deserve a unique car?

>>17610210

That car looks amazing

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>>17610228

But that's wrong pal, I am awesome.

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>>17599668
Italian cars look like shit dude. They're fast and expensive but they look like shit.

Sweden actually designs the nicest looking cars/everything.

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>>17610625

>Cucks
>Making the best looking cars


Yes, for other cucks I figure.

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>>17610178

Looks like a cheap knockoff of some BMW hyper car concept.

>>17610221

Memes, the DNA of the soul....it's all I need.

>>17610198
>he still doesn't know what a neo-con is
the idiocy

>>17610796
>still mad the next morning

>>17610625
Sweden doesn't have the best looking government LMAO

>>17600083
>>17600171
That grille is ugly as shit, stop posting it.

>>17610980
I work nights
>checked first thing when you awoke

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Op here, I am working on the Veloster. Looks like shit nao, but I'll be better.

>>17611755
I'm waiting patiently.

>>17600716
white people killing natives and enslaving niggers, you mean?

Who cares?

>>17611755
K O R E A N*

>>17602057
nice car

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>>17611959

Still on it, I'll probably try to learn how the headlights look like for reference, maybe draw the wheels more accurately, detail windows and fix the backside, then stop.
>>17612394

Yeah, it does look like a cheap Korean knockoff lmao. Does it still look that way?

>>17612536

Oh yes, and fix the grill. Looks horrible.

>>17612536
I like this roofline better than the real thing actually.

Wasn't expecting much, but this a cute.

I want a clean jpg file of it when you're done.

>>17612568

Alright, I'll upload one when I finish.

>>17599615

Your argument hinges on what you know and subjectively define to be unique, and seems mostly like a thinly veiled excuse to reinforce your taste in cars.

>>17611073
I bet your face doesn't look any better.

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>>17612536
>>17612568

Here, some things could be refined but I'll stop now.

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>>17602057
>the white-is (lighter skinned beige) people will rule over the browner ones

Sounds just like Brazil and India, which are both such lovely, vibrant places, right?

>>17613541

We are going to be ruled by Asians, imo. They are doing better than us in academia and economically. They have a higher IQ average, that shouldn't come as a surprise.


Having let immigrants of any kind into America was a mistake. Blacks and Hispanos increase crime, and Asians will rule over us. Liberalism was a retarded idea.


Of course, non white countries will continue being non-white Majority. Anyone who doesn't think this is an invasion, are just delusional.

>>17600231
>/k/
probably has a dick

>>17613516
Bretty gud anon. You have talent.

Now just have to run it through some shitty photo editing apps...

>>17613726

Thanks Anon, I'll probably go to sleep and continue tomorrow with some WW1 tank or something. Are you going to edit the drawing? Post it here, curious if so.

>>17600749
faggot spotted. Slavery held back the South from industrializing. Slavery is the reason the north became rich and the south poor. Using blacks as slave labor was a horribly inefficient way of growing an economy. You're deluded.

>>17600724
keep dreaming faggot. The future is fascist. Liberal queers don't even know how to load a firearm.

>>17600762
>colonials left behind.

Yea. White people who taught savages how to behave.

>>17600837
nigger spotted.

>>17600903
And yet Blacks in the United States have it better here than anywhere in the world. i've had niggers bitch to me about how blacks are mistreated in America and they literally just got off the boat from Ghana two years before. It's laughable.

Nigger, if you don't like it, GTFO. Better yet, get the fuck away from white people and stop following us everywhere.

>>17600961
survived through war? Most of those refugees are niggers from Africa. And the few from the middle east literally left their own land and own women behind to be taken care of by Europeans.

They are literal subhumans compared to Europeans. They are treated like Children by European government. How can any women find masculinity in a refugee when their sole existence is that of being a drain on a society?

>>17613870
>>17613849
>>17613832
>>17613824
>>17613816
>>17613797
late edgelord is late

>>17601008
Persians? You mean the Romans and Greeks? lol gtfo

>>17613870
I feel more than a little schadenfreude hearing yuros complain of an invasion of immigrants after they spent literally decades lecturing the US about how the only reason Americans could possibly oppose millions of Mexicans coming into the country illegally was racism.

>>17601030
You are literally only alive because of compassionate whites and greedy kikes who just use you as a tool for their own political gain. If these races weren't there, other more barbarous less compassionate races would slaughter you without mercy.

You are literal untermensch. Low IQ subhuman scum and we should not be so kind on your people in the future. We know what happens when nigger filth outnumber us. We know what happens to us no matter how nice we are. All we have to do is remind ourselves of Haiti, Rhodesia and South Africa.

1) Haiti
2) Rhodesia
3) South Africa

Every white man should remind himself not to feel pity when nigger killing robots are invented and wipes the shitskins out.

I curse the whites and jews who brought you savages to this great land. May they all rot in hell.

>>17613870

You can't tell me your average subhuman refugee is not more manly than average nu-male ''man'' that inhabits western nations nowadays.

>>17601065
You were on point until your last sentence.

Jews are hated because of their behavior in the societies they occupy.

> porn, smut
> owning media, brainwashing population with degeneracy
> buying off politicians to get what they want

They do the same thing everywhere they go. When you get kicked out of 120 countries the past 3000 years maybe they should take a good long look in the mirror.

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>>17599615
except the 90's japanese cars actually looks good compared to all amerishit and kraut cars,

>>17600586
Honestly I think I'd like to DD one just for the reliability and MPG and the fact that it's not as boring looking as a Corolla or a Civic. It doesn't look too practical but the way things are going, I'll probably die alone anyway

>>17601762
haha. That's a jewish myth invented to brainwash white women into sleeping with negroes. The biggest dick in the world belongs to a white man.

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>>17613972

Stop.

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>>17614039
stop what?
american cars are ugly.

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>>17614060

No.

>>17613601
Nah. If white people don't kick out every shitskin from Europe, and if we don't carve out a large chunk for ourselves in America. We will nuke the entire world.

White people will never willingly accept slavery to subhuman races. It's either

a) we carve out multiple areas for ourselves, and only ourselves.

b) we get destroyed in trying to achieve this, all the while destroying the whole world in the process.

>>17613879
Yea, casually reading through the thread after I made those posts, someone else already said the same exact thing.

White people are really waking up. Thank you internet. You will save us.

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>>17599615
the examples you give are pretty shit, it's like saying
>Bf109'
>P51's
>Spitfire's
>A6M's
are all designs stolen from each other.
in reality these design where just following on the guidelines of what the idea of a fighter plane were at the time.

the thing is manufacturers will follow the same trends that are popular at the time, and therefore reach similar results when it comes to design.

>>17614109

All the most amazing innovations made for planes during WW2 where made by Germans first, Italians, British, Americans and then, Japs.


Just to add more to the ''Asians are Zergs'' theory, they were the only ones in WW2 you use kamikaze tactics.

>>17614068
i'm not a fan of muscle cars, i like lightweight sports cars more.

but on another note OP will be like
>that looks just like nissan skyline

>>17614127

>but on another note OP will be like
>that looks just like nissan skyline


I have no idea what you are trying to say. I am OP, and I posted the Muscle car.

>>17599615
>MR2
>poor man's ferrari
>copy attempt
someone is seriously deluded
What is Toyota copying by coming up with a mid engined commuter sports car for upper middle class people? Completely different market, though somewhat similar use case. Completely different engineering, though similar layout. Completely different form factor, though it shares a few design pieces.
If anything, it's copying the X1/9, but you chose not to mention it, which is strange.

Is the Miata a ripoff of british roadsters?

>>17600275
I doubt it. My graduating class and the next few years below me are deep into this hedonism shit, and if they are right wing, they are in it for the edgy memes, nothing else.
People joked about the BSA being some fascist stronghold after Trump's speech, and sadly, they are wrong. While the BSA is why I am a fascist, many scouts are socially inept, magic playing, bread and circus bugmen, and few make it to the realization that their actions matter and have value.
While I agree that there will be a general conservative swing, I am not convinced that it will the "Generation Zyklon" /pol/ likes to talk about. Gen Z is too far gone, hooked on dopamine from the smartphones they have on them 24/7. I don't see them getting past it unless shit gets really bad.
t. '98

>>17600826
>>It's gaudy shit meant to project an image of being a gigantic rich faggot, and gigantic rich faggots and people who wish they were such faggots praise it appropriately.
I think they were talking about modern lambos and paganis, not 80's Ferraris

>>17614131
"but it's got 2 doors and a lot of power"

>>17613927
A lot of western men are cucked. I guess thats what happens to a nations men after 38 million ethnic white europeans were killed in ww2, giving up all of our ancient crown jewels of nations into the hands of global financial jewry.

Just wait until the Jews get kicked out of America and slither their way into China. Watch what they turn into. Chinks have no idea about the Jews.

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>>17614187

You're just being silly now.

>>17614124
yeah, but i'm not talking about who invented what.
the point is that using similar design philosopies they reached similiar results.

America:
1+2=3
japan
1+2=3
OP
>the japanese are stealing american designs

>>17601065
>t. JBP
What of Bobby Fischer, et. al.

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>>17614228

>yeah, but i'm not talking about who invented what.

Yes, but I am. And I am the OP. So fuck off my thread, you thot.

>>17614240
yeah, but you see Ferrari didn't invent the Toyota MR2.

>>17614250

It sure laid the foundations for Japs to build upon, without taking any risks.

>>17614302
>uh so yeah this italian supercar company did toyota's work for them
>by building a fullsize longitudinal v12 supercar
>toyota just copy pasted it for their tiny transverse l4 commuter sport car

retard
the fiat X1/9 did that, not ferrari
it's already in the thread for fucks sake >>17614168

>>17614342

Doesn't matter, Italians. AKA westers. If you paid attention to the thread, you'll see that whether it was Ferrari, Lambo, Ford or whatever else, doesn't matter.


I swear sometimes you guys just want to be autistic for the sake of it.

>>17599615
>Have you guys noticed how almost all Japanese cars are literally fucking copy attempts at original Western Designs?

Clarkson basically had an entire episode on the "Clarkson Car Years" show about this, with the NSX being his capstone example

>>17615039
Never seen it, might be worth checking.

>>17600309

The problem with this theory is that history didn`t just start with the 50s and there was a time when there was no popculture, or mass media.