[ D a i l y B i k e T h r e a d ] - /dbt/

FUCK OFF
FUCK OFF DROBE
FUCKING LEAVE

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SEM HYPE
ONE WEEK LADS

>Bleeding linked brakes
>ELEVEN bleed points
never buying a bike with this shit again.

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>>17583668
No :~)

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>no girl will ever sit on your bike

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Suzuki a shit.
Honda twin superior, AND still in production.

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>>17583670
It's shit. There is no good reason for it. Just learn to use regular brakes the end.

>>17583695
Just find a girl who hates her dad

>get a litre bike
>now I overtake literally everything I see

Am I going to end up dead soon?

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>bored of current bike
>have $16k
>wat get?

>>17583777
nah thats normal.

Cars look like they are standing still to me these days, every corner i end up behind one i feel like it stops mid-corner.

>>17583789
Eight GS500s.

>>17583789
build your own

>>17583792
the power is crazy

>30mph
>see the national speed limit sign
>let it rip
>im at 70mph in 1 second

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>tf no sssa 959

>>17583789
my god half fairings look so shit.

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I'm drunk and tomorrow I will install a double usb charger under my buddyseat, with an on-off switch directly on the battery. Good times, good times.

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>>17583689
Why did you post my maymay? Now I have nothing to do.

>>17583284
I second that notion.

On my way to Florida. Considering renting a Harley for a day or two just for shits.

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>>17583789
yikes dat duc

>>17583789
Used ducati (they can be seriously cheap because nobody wants to buy an out of warranty ducati), and put the rest away in investment funds that mature as the maintenance intervals come.

I've got a relative who did that. 899 panigale, about 50k miles on it. Ended up not using half the maintenance money because he put away extra for random failures.

Ok /dbt/

Lets get some opinions goin' here. As the resident asshole oldguy who has owned it all... I'm buying a new bike. My 1198SP got totalled two years ago and I've been getting by with just my KTM Duke, but I need a fairing so I can go the distance comfortably. Being a sail in the wind sucks.

I'm real close to pullin the trigger on an MV F3 800. Rode the Brutale 800, and it manged to assuage my fears of owning an MV; since I and my buddy have had. bad. experiences.

So what I need to know is... do I get it in black over red, or white and black over red?

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>>17583799
welcome to the wonder world of power

>>17583864
bms s1k

>>17583864
>MV
no
/end

>>17583803
3/4 fairing, on the other hand, are the most A E S T H E T I C.

>>17583809
Dumb question, but I've never fuck with the electrics.
Why do people attach straight to battery instead of diverting from the headlight, or installing accessories inline following the ignition? (Keyhole, not switch)
I'm not a rocket surgeon, but with what little training signal school gave me, it makes more sense. You can even add resistors to moderate draw.

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>>17583864
Everything is better with white.

It'll look trick parked in your garage when your honda's too busy being ridden to spoil the picture.

>>17583800
>Pratically a liter.


REEE. Make it a 750, Ducati. Do it so this thing can go into Supersport racing classes.

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>>17583864
White and black is the optimal color.
MV a gud. Gr8 choice anon

>>17583904
>japanese sticker for "shit's broken, senpai"

MV sure is gud

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>>17583904
MV is a boutique bike

>>17583892
because its easier and its always a dumb move to fuck with existing electronics

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>>17583857
Dum dum dum dum dum dum dum, BATMAAAAN!

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>>17583923
wat is habbening here

>>17583923
>>17583929
Soul and character :^)

>>17583923
do they map their EFIs with a hammer?

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>>17583800
I rode one for a bit.

It was okay. Definitely not worth 17k yuros.

Ducati definitely has something going with people who would rather look at the bike and jerk off than to actually learn how to ride.

>>17583923
>please updated your br charts

Where's the 1299R and the F4RR?

>>17583923
>>17583929

>that hole at 13k

why in the world?

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>>17583929
>wat is habbening here
Spaghetti fuel maps. Mv can't into actual fueling.
>>17583933
Yes.
>>17583919
It's not the only one either :^)

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>>17583777
Aww yiss welcome to the club.

Which liter?

>>17583929
>>17583923
S1000RR IS STILL THE KING

>>17583923
Looks flat af.
Why does the 'sportbikes are peaky deathwishmachines' meme still persist?

>>17583873
>tfw no Kawasaki flesh harvester
Their recebt designs give me uncontrollable boners.

>>17583664
Where at in Arizona?

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>tfw custom hornets look great but every review on earth says the suspension is utter crap and that the bike is noticeably pigfat
>a grand or so to trick it out
>another grand on suspension and brakes
>another grand on a fancy full exhaust for weight reduction
>vs
>buy GSXR
>drill four holes in top triple
>bolt on handlebar clamps from another bike
>muh comfort
at last i understand why sportbikes are popular

>>17583949
Because the engines rev quicker the higher you go, with more response in some spots than others

It's fucking awesome but not 100% safe if you're not expecting it

>look at a 600 on CL when new to bikes
>take it out on a local relatively empty highway
>try pinning the gas to pass
>not a lot happens
>downshift
>angry engine noises
>110mph
>banging off the rev limiter
>in a couple of seconds
>decide not to start on a 600

>Still no SAM pictures
Really makes me think

What's SEM?

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>>17583990
>my face when SAM has never happened, nor will it ever happen

>>17583991
Synchronous Ejaculation Meet

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>>17583695
You must be doing something wrong.

>>17584007
i'm not convinced that's a woman

>>17584007
>American """""women""""

grim

>>17583695
It's happened multiple times to me tho.

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>>17584000
This

>>17584016
Traps aren't gay

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>>17583864
>black


How much are you paying for the f3? im also looking to purchase a new bike and the f3 looks like a potential buy for me.

>>17583695
I've had two grills and a bitch as a passenger on my bike.

>>17584007
>wife.jpg
Dyke?

>>17584072
You say that like dykes on bikes are unusual or uncommon.

I am so happy belt faggottry is on a steady decline, less chance i'll have to deal wiTH SHEARED FUCKING TEETH
ANYONE WHO SAYS HE PREFERS BELTS IS A FILTHY FUCKING LIAR
give me a chain any day

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>>17584007
lol.

>inb4 poast ur gf faget

Here's my girlfriend. Her Vstrom is in the back. Her parents visited and they rented a Harley MegaCouch 9000. We spent the afternoon showing them a bit of the mountains here.

>>17583892
I want to charge phone at a campsite with the key in my own pocket, not the ignition. My satnav is hooked up to the ignition.

>>17583985
>around 200Kg is fat now

so its not an all-aluminium superbike and you have to brake 500 milliseconds earlier to hit your line, big deal.

>suspension is crap

new springs, new oil, some new rear-shock from ebay... all in all easy to do for under 200 bucks.

>>17584112
Most superbikes are around 200kg

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Took my HOG out for a RIP today.
Felt good. You know Harley's and shit.

Do NOT reply.

>>17584197
Eat my Harley soaked ass
You didn't even ride today
Or at all in your life.

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>>17583695
I may have lost count by this point.

Biking is great with girls — I found it really helps to break the ice with physical contact.

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Hey dby I had a drz400 I had too get rid of because of financial issues and I wanna buy a new motorcycle, I wanna stay in the dual sport family and get something a little faster, what are your guys suggestions? Thanks for the help!

>>17583947
Yes the S1000ARRARR is a bad bitch but in the plots you can see it was getting it's ass kicked lower in the rev range and only produced a little more peak power but needed much more revs to achieve it. Not hating, just sayin. These plots are a bit old too but I saved them because dat MV has a serious case of the WTF autistim going on kek

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>>17583938
yes yes old plots I just saved them because of the MV wtf moment kek

>>17584216
What state are you in?

How much maintenance are you willing to do?

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>>17583949
cause schnoobz

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>>17583955
If you gotta have a flesh harvester, it is hard to beat a kaw dat 5th gen 10R/10RR is tits and don't get me started on the H2/H2R hnnnggg

>>17584231
California
And I always take good care of my toys and fix anything that needs repairs asap I was looking at the ktm 690 but I've heard a lot of bad stuff about ktms

>>17583994
Will post pics tomorrow night.

>>17584277
>california
I'm sorry.

I didn't ask if you took care of your shit. I asked how much maintenance you are willing to do. KTMs require a lot more attention than a DRZ.

Buy a KTM or another DRZ. You have practically no other options. The 690 does not require the same level of maintenance as a 450 or 500. The 525 RFS motor is well known to be quite reliable, however the 690 is a much better street bike.

>>17584070
I fucking hate you

>tfw no they didn't have gold rearsets in stock so I had to get silver

>>17584287
Not that poster, but isn't maintenance and taking care of your shit the same thing?

>>17584216
Most of the faster dual sports have insane maintenance schedules.

>>17584319
In a way, but if I'm asking HOW MUCH you want to do, it is implying that one option REQUIRES more maintenance than the other.

Eurobike = MORE maintenance

>>17584287
Trust me bro I know, Cali sucks, it's fucking hot as shit right now and riding in 105 degree weather is death

But I get you I just want too get the best bang for my buck and even if it takes a little more maintenance I won't mind

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hi friends
got dis lad for bretty cheap
first big boy bike. kind of regret not having newbike reliability but this thing is really really fun

>>17584320
Are they that bad? I remember my drz was pretty much indestructable it was such a fun bike

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>>17584287
I have an RFS KTM. It's a great bike but I still wouldn't want one as an only bike because the miles rack up quick on the street. I used it a lot on the street for a while but it just wasn't worth the hassle or money to use it as a street bike so it spends almost all its time on the trails now.

>>17584353
fugg das a clean z650

They're easy enough to work on that newbike reliability is kind of offset. Enjoy riding familia.

>>17584336
>Eurobike = MORE maintenance

No it does not.

>>17584112
>500 milliseconds earlier to hit your line, big deal.
..yes

>>17584112
thats like 28 meters earlier at 100km/h

>>17584376
>my KTM is just as reliable and requires infrequent maintenance, just like the DRZ400 boat anchor
Fuck off.

>>17584350
Bang for your buck is a DRZ in california. In other states, I'd say a plated WR450f. If you buy a KTM, you're committing to more frequent maintenance and stupid shit like changing 3 oil filters at once and laying the bike on its side for an oil change.

For something more modern, consider a WR250R or X, depending on preferences. I think a DRZ is a better bargain though.

>>17584401
>>17584380

its not made to be raced yes.

If you are a somewhat decent rider you will still be able to keep up with the liters on the twisties.

>>17584409
>my KTM is just as reliable and requires infrequent maintenance, just like the DRZ400 boat anchor
>Fuck off.
No but when compared to another bike in the same class like a WR450F, it requires about the same amount of maintenance.

>>17584423
The only KTM that is close to the 5 valve WR450f is an RFS KTM with its 3 oil filters and on-its-side oil changes.

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>>17584296
>mfw replaced missing center bolt that holds bashplate in place with a gold one on a shitbike

How do you get girls to get on your bike? Is driving with a passenger on a sportbike difficult? First year rider btw so I´m not 100% confident in my riding, more like 80-85%

>>17583878
I hate inline 4s. Never again.

>>17584434
It is only 2 oil filters unless you count the screens. The WR has oil screens too but you just don't see them when you change the oil. You can even replace one of the paper filters with a reusable mesh filter if it's that big of a deal. Also no, you don't have to turn the bike on its side to change the oil.

Btw, the WR426, which comes from the same era as the RFS bikes, is complete garbage by comparison.

>>17584458
>How do you get girls to get on your bike?
By not being a creepy cuck and being a generally likeable person

>Is driving with a passenger difficult
Not if you're a good rider

>Not 100% confident in riding
Do it if you want mane. If you fall they're gonna get torn up tho.

>>17584350
When you are talking "like the DRZ but faster " you are looking at pure enduros or the 690.

Pure enduros, change oil every 500 miles, check valves every 2k or so IF you keep the air filter spotless until you know they aren't moving because you are doing your job maintaining the bike, then every 5k. KTM is pretty much the only game in town. You can play the game to plate other bikes, kind of a pain but doable. Still quite a few plated non factory bikes available but expect to pay a 1k premium on anything that is hard to plate in California. 40-70 lbs lighter than your DRZ, 10 to 20 more HP

690, stay with recommended oil intervals of 3k miles, swap rocker arms every 10k when you check the valves. about the same weight as your DRZ, 25 more HP.

>>17584070
About $9700 with 16k miles.

>>17584363
RFS is a good motor, easy to maintain and yes you will stack hours on anything if it's something you ride.

Put 350 hours on a RFS supermoto in a little over a year only riding it one day a weekend. They stack up fast.

>>17584070
I'll let you know when my buddy gets back to me with an otd price. Everyone I asked said "fuck the all black get the white" which... is what is due in to the dealer soon.
>>17584458
"Hey you wanna go for a ride?"

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>>17584282
>I need until tomorrow night to forge some pics from the photos of other people's bikes and meetups
Fixed.
Man, you truly are pathetic, trying to keep up the ruse even after it's become painfully obvious SAM never happened.

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Should a wrap the side cover for my radiator or keep it carbon fiber. Thought it would look good, but now I'm not sure.

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>>17584465
Notice how I didn't mention the 426?

WR450s for the same vintage as the RFS have in-frame oil tanks and screens. Aluminum frame bikes don't have one.

You can buy a fuel injected WR450f for the same price as a GOOD RFS. That's what I did.

My bike also has a reusable screen oil filter. I'm not crazy about the idea.

Pic related.

>>17584418
Having to brake 28 meters earlier to hit your line on a track is the same as having to brake 28 meters earlier to not fucking die on the road.

There's something to be said about having a bike with good braking distances. Fucking econoboxes outclass most bikes. ABS equipped middleweight supersports are the only bikes to even fall in the same bracket as cheap family cars, while sportscars stop on a dime and laugh at the bikes that are still rolling on down the road.

>>17584513
>Having to brake 28 meters earlier to hit your line on a track is the same as having to brake 28 meters earlier to not fucking die on the road.
>i ride as fast on the street as I do on the track
No, you don't.

With that said, ABS is nice.

I thought about buying a VFR800 since I had a 750 and liked it, but apparently it has some sort of linked braking system. Is it good or awful?

>>17584522
>i ride as fast on the street as I do on the track

100kmh (that's 62 miles an hour in freedom numbers) is the average speed of my daily commute, city slicker.

>>17584524
The rear activates the front. It's shit. Modern honda sportsbikes with CBS at least keep the rear isolated.

>inb4 it's a "sports tourer" because honda doesn't want to drive the price up another five grand with lightweight racey components

>>17584507
anything that covers up the engine is shit anyways.

i fucking hate those bellypans, they only work if the rest of the bike is almost completely naked.

Radiator covers always look bad.

>>17584536
i like bellypans. they let you go on tracks with half decent safety rules, keep dirt off your engine and headers (add a fender extender for more clean bike cred) and save your rear tire from spontaneous leaks.

>>17584533
Yeah doesn't sound so good to me either. It's a shame really, I could buy another 750 but I'd have preferred fuel injection.

>>17584533
The highways here are posted 75mph, I still go quite a bike faster than that on the race track.

>>17584524
Linked brakes are designed for people who don't know how to brake and just mash their favorite lever until the bike slows down.

>>17584557
And shitty brakes at 75mph make a huge difference in safe following distance. And keep in mind, it's traffic, so nobody will let you have all of that following distance. Ever. After all, their car brakes 50 feet sooner than your "sensible" bike. Why would they accomodate your choice to take a shitty vehicle into the fast lane when you might dent their trunk at the worst?

>>17584524
Linked brakes always sounded like compensation for those who can't walk and chew gum, but if
>>17584533
That makes the bike nearly unuseable.
The rear has a real purpose, doubly so at low speed. If it does activate the front, rip that shit right off.


Otherwise, the 800 sounds badass. And the new one looks like sex.

>>17584511
>You can buy a fuel injected WR450f for the same price as a GOOD RFS

Yep, I gave 4600 for my 2012 with 730 miles on it about a year and a half ago. All in to plate it in California playing the game with a non resident plate through SD then transfer back was an extra 500 for parts/fees/taxes.

Having had both an RFS and the WR, the WR is the better bike. the 12 and up forks on the WR are sublime.

>>17584570
>tfw you crashed a VFR800 trying to do a moderate speed U turn in a gravel parking lot using the rear brake

bike was okay
ego was not

went out to a paved parking lot and did the same thing five times over, bike stayed perfectly upright

and to think, adventure bikes come with that shit.

how to lean?

>Tfw almost got into an accident today because some old bitch decided to just pass me on the right, through most of my lane, without warning.
>Didn't see her until suddenly there's a Corolla a foot to my right, nearly clipped me
Fuck everybody. We were going 100km/h, I would have gotten absolutely fucked up.

>>17584579
Also, this was after owning a regular bike that didn't fall over in gravel. It might have also been the weight, but fuck if those things aren't poorly suited to anything but highways.

>>17584606
You countersteer and the bike starts to lean, then you lean into it.
It's not about just muscling the bike over.

>>17584579
There are conversion kits for the older bikes, like the vfr800... to get rid of it and make it conventional.

With all the new computer control, cant really do that. Unless some companies have gotten around to hacking the ecus and abs systems...

>>17584616
is it fear that prevents me from hanging off?

>>17584632
maybe its dignity?

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>>17584635

>>17584627
The conversion kits that actually work instead of giving you too much brake everywhere are basically half front end swaps and a bridge hose+new MC for the rear. Apparently just doing the fork lowers and matching brake calipers from a VTR or F4i actually works, but the fender doesn't fit. And then you have to run entirely new lines from the new front MC to the two new front calipers, and they have to be custom made because the distances and clearances on the VFR aren't found on the bikes you're swapping brakes from.

Altogether it's at least a $500 expense for a 20 year old bike when you could just get an F4i or something. The v4 memes aren't worth it.

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>>17583695

>>17584222

That's why do you don't short shift?

>>17584693
>implying you'll always be able to be that fucking high in the rev range

if you tried, you'd lose more time shifting than you'd lose riding a bike with 10 fewer HP between 11 and 14k. it would be like trying to race the world's meanest two stroke.

top end does quarter miles
midrange wins races

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>>17584222
as a rabid Mvfag, MV dropped the fucking ball HARD on the 2010+ F4 fueling.

Dynos show MY<09 F4s making like 165rwhp stock and the 1000S has even been proven to run up to around there with a midpipe and a PCIII. I have no fucking clue what they did but it kills me to see it.

>>17584727
Maybe they redirected their fueling budget to the loctite application department

>>17584733
Kek. They probably need it. Working on the bike is the exact same as a fucking aircraft. Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING needs to be torqued to spec.

You can tell they came out of an aircraft factory.

>>17584647
Eh.. my second bike was a 95 VFR, and there is a VFR800 that has been in my family/riding circle since new; this has the linked brakes.

Yea, its ultimately not worth swapping out because $. Now all the computers and ABS systems can manage shit way better. This was just an intermediate step on the road...

As for the V4 being a meme... well. Its a great engine. I wish I had my RC45 back.

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This Is muh motorbicycle. I luv it.

I am one of you now.

I think my clutch is slipping a bit, but I can't really tell for sure.

>>17584805
rev to 10k and dump the clutch

you'll be able to tell for sure

>>17584805
That is a murica flag.

>>17584779
There's actually no performance advantage to the v4. If anything, it's more flaws to work around, all for minor gains in rear end traction for 200hp literbikes and 200hp literbikes only.

The VFRs are hard to tell from a detuned inline like a 919

>>17584805
That is a cute* murica flag.

>>17583708
what does twin mean?

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>>17584843
it means cutting costs by selling you half the bike

>having fewer than three cyllinders
>having fewer than four when under 500cc

SS = supersport when 4cyl
SS = shaky and slow when 2cyl

>>17584353
cafe racer it.

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>>17584815
r-really....

Will that... hurt.. it??

>>17584872
Comfy cruiser looks comfy

>>17584872
>American flag
>Narrow V-twin
>H O N D A

Why the fuck do they do this

>>17584872
It'll be fine. I doubt that bike has enough power to wheelie with just that. If you're really scared take it up to like 5k before you do it and there's no chance of wheelies.

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>>17584912
You don't have to ride a Harley to agree with classic American values, commie.

Silverstone 2016 vs Phillip Island 2015?

>>17584949
Being overweight and underperforming aren't classic American values.

so I was in the process of scouring the internet trying my hardest to be a dirty pirate and get a pdf of a clymer or haynes manual for my bike (there are *so many* dead FTP servers in archived threads out there)
and I found something that looks like it could actually be a great source of general info for me http://www.dansmc.com/MC_repaircourse.htm
gonna be reading for a while i guess
>my cursor is a biker dragging knee

Test rode some Suzukis at an event today, was pretty interesting. the SV650 felt smooth, torquey, and handled great. However, it was extremely quiet (I could barely hear it even after I opened my visor) and the rear brake felt like it had no fluid in it whatsoever. I don't need a bike to be screaming loud, but I don't like looking down at a tach to tell what rev range I'm in because I can't fucking hear anything. Rear brake isn't all that useful, but I needed to come to a faster stop at one point because it was my first ride of the day and I didn't know the route, came up to a sharp corner too fast. I went to push on the rear brake and for a moment through I just missed the pedal because I felt nothing and the bike didn't respond in any noticable way. Tested it later in the ride and confirmed it was doing absolutely nothing.

Also rode a Gixxer 750, felt pretty damn good. Steering dampening is on point and it felt extremely, extremely smooth. Power band was solid and was just an outright fun ride. I'm not particular to sport bikes, but it definitely left a smile on my face.

Last was the Vstrom 1000XT and it was garbage in my eyes. First bike of that type I rode ever and I absolutely hated it. Could feel how heavy it was, the throttle was unresponsive to the point where blipping downshifts was impossible, I would rotate the throttle and it'd take what felt like a quarter of a second for the engine to respond. Shifting was clunky, I would give it a solid flick up and still manage to just get stuck in neutral when going from 1st to 2nd. Didn't help that the clutch felt inconsistent with a friction zone that didn't kick in until the lever was almost entirely pulled in. I suppose most of those issues could be adjusted, but it was just an extremely unpleasant ride and felt like I couldn't throw the bike around. I've ridden my friend's R1 and I can flick that around despite the weight, the Strom just felt like a huge immobile turd.

>>17584992
the front brake provides 99% of braking power on budget jap nakeds

my fz07 has no rear brake feel

>>17584949
How long until you trade for a scout?

>Now if money is a problem, there are several ways around that. Although, if you were considering a formal $20,000 course [for motorcycle repair], one would think a few hundred would not be a problem. Check this out. A guy e-mails me and says he wants to know how to take his rear wheel off but can't figure out how and he has no shop manual 'cause money's tight. Then he asks what aftermarket exhaust system will give him the most horsepower. He doesn't have money for a $30.00 shop manual, but does have money for a $300.00 exhaust system. Does this sound kinda stupid to you? Well, I cater to stupid people too, (been there, done that!) so I wrote up a page on wheel removal.
kek, I like this guy already

>>17584992
Rider noise is an easy fix. Just take off the noise emissions shit they include with the airbox.

Induction > exhaust noise anyways

Is it bad to run my bike with no exhaust - is the backpressure meme true?

>>17585053
It depends on tuning. Do you have enough air going in? Enough fuel? Also, the hearing loss meme is true.

>>17585057
i ride at 8k feet so there's already no air

will I rek my bike?

>>17585062
it will run like shit because it's way too lean

>>17583695
the bike i bought was bought by a dude for his gf. 10 years old with only 3600 miles and no drops

so yeah.. i guess i have that going for me

>>17585112
weird thing is that people in Denver at 5k ft say they can't power wheelie but I can at 8k ft with 1/2 throttle in Addis

>>17585014
never

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YAARRRSS
monday, please god, monday

>>17585139
Damn shame

Is 33k miles too much for a bike? Its a 2001 F4i

>>17585209
It'll be fine.

>>17585209
Not really

>>17585209
https://cbrforum.com/forum/sights-n-sounds-7/well-ol-f4i-has-made-once-again-rolled-over-300k-153934/

>>17585209
Depends on whether or not it was idiot-owned. Idiots will install APE tensioners and then destroy their engines in 3k miles.

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>>17584986
>Being overweight and underperforming aren't classic American values.

>Overweight
>Underperforming
Harley
There's a joke in there somewhere I'm breddy sure

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>>17585298

>>17585209
if a bike is meticulously kept and not tracked every day and not ridden stupidly, no, 50k isn't even that much

if not, you're looking at replacing half the bike.

>throttle/clutch cables
>fork oil, seals, O rings, mabe springs
>rear shock
>clutch
>caliper rebuild, possible replacement
>Brake MCs might be on their way out
>possible collapsed brake hose now or in the near future
>got carbs? get gaskets.
>air filter, the most neglected part of a motorcycle. if you didn't have to take the tank off to get to them, maybe people would replace/clean them.
>new engine if willied with an insufficient oil pickup

>>17584990
Wut bike?

I'm good at finding shit like that.

>>17583695
>grills
>tall enough to get on a drz400e on 21/18s

thats my excuse, definitely not that no grill would even want to sit on a $1500 drz

>>17584986
Have you seen my wife on the Guzzi up there?

>>17584216
>a little faster
DR650, KLR650 - Do carb, airbox, and airbox mods and they'll show up the DR-Z.
XR650R/L - Will out grunt the DR-Z more or less stock.

>>17585339
2005 Suzuki SV650S K5, I love you long time. Clymer preferred, Haynes also good.

>tfw what.cd is kill
>tfw made power user about three months after bibliotek closed their invite thread in what's power user forum
I checked libgen.io but I'm pretty bad at that site so I might have not been as thorough as I could. Ebscohost has the haynes for the 99-02 model and I think I could access that through my uni login - but only if I read it through special Adobe warez that delete it from my computer after 24 days. Haven't checked the /g/ FTP yet, but doubt it would be there lol.

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>>17585342
I've had 3 chick's ask for rides on my 3k Cad sm and one that just wanted to try sitting on it. Meme wheels make all the difference.

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Think I'm really gonna miss my Grom when I finally upgrade to a bigger bike... I can only have one bike.

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>tfw couldn't get this thing to do 30 even going downhill

>>17585450
why only one? groms small...can stash it away no?

>>17585474
>those "wheels"
>those "brakes"
>30mph
absolute madman

What tyres should I get?
>90% Twisties
>90% not in rain
>Want stickyness but want them to last at least 5,000kms
>For gsxr750

So far it's between s20 Evo, m77r and q3

>>17585486
I'm unemployed and I keep it in the driveway hidden behind the neighbours' cars 'cus living in a block of flats/no garage.

>>17585450
Says who?
Own as many as you like.

>>17585505
Can you rent a garage? I would never leave my bike outside so I rent a neighbours garage down the street

>>17585498
Out of those 3 the M7rr will last the longest.

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>>17585505
Store inside? groms are small...can't do?

>>17585498
M7, the S20s and Q3s are ops as fuck.

>>17585498
q3 a nice tbqh

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>>17585491
I swear I was even trying to push it like a skateboard

>>17585515
>>17585517
>>17585522
Everyone seemed to like all of them in the last thread I was in too. Guess I'll flip a coin when I'm in the shop. Going to be an expensive visit. Second service, two new tyres + new helmet.

>>17585305
I was in Europe recently and I was surprised that I still saw tons of HDs there too.

>>17585528
Is that really carbon fiber? As if windvisors aren't light enough.

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>>17585514
I live in a fairly decent middle-class 'hood. Think I might look into garages to rent or ask some folk I know.

>>17585516
I live in Britain and my current place is cramped as it is.

I don't think I could part with it without having my heart broken. It's even got a resident jumping spider who I occasionally see.

>>17585539
Yes ordered from Japan. Magical Racing...tis elite. Here have a fap:

http://www.moto-works.jp/magicalracing.html

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>>17585543
Can't find a friend who has space or find some little spot to rent anon? Where there is a will there is a way.

>>17585564
Honestly, it's not something I've considered. I try not to depend on others.

What makes a "good line"? Should corners be approached inside-outside-inside or outside-inside-outside?

>>17585572
The second

>>17585569
Well that is understandable but if you wanna keep yer grom might have to give it a go ehh

>>17585572
Typically outside inside outside to straighten out the corner. Not much of a point making the corner tighter, straighter will get you through faster. Of course there are different types of corners such as decreasing radius or different apex points to use depending on scenario

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>>17585572
decreasing radius:

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>>17583659
Finally moved to Lex, fuckbois!
Looking for my future bike

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>>17585572
Early vs Late Apex

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ATX anon here, finished the first riding portion of the MSF this morning.

Grom is love. Grom is life.

My shitbike can go fuck itself I'm getting the real thing ASAP. Gonna slap the spare motor on and flip it on craigslist for a quick three hunnit and use that to buy gear.

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Some H2 shenanigans// Boosted is a beast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qguACSQxLqs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WJzAcfyu1M

Is mounting a action cam illegal where I live? Melbourne, Australia. I'm not up to date with the laws and google isn't helping.

>>17585735
>Australia

Does it sound even remotely fun?

Then yes its illegal as hell

>>17585543
Just put it in the living room. A grom is small enough.

>>17585556
What a rip-off lol. Just diet.

>>17583695
Girls look fucking weird in full face helmets

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>>17585865
I didn't buy it for weight savings just thought it was badass/rare/unique hhnnnggg

>>17585805
Not really safe due to vapor.
Or maybe I'm wrong and you can elaborate on why it's become safe to keep bikes in your home.

>>17585913
wur r u tlakn abot i kep my baik in te houde an i feel fin

Where can I get custom stickers made?

>>17585572
Are we talking street and I want to stay alive or track and I don't have to worry about oncoming traffic and shit in the road.

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>>17585913
tis ok anon

>>17585913

You don't run it inside you stupid fuck.

>>17585947
vapor can still leak from your tank.

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>>17585718
Need to get me something like these to outrun bolice

>>17585984
You drain the gas first you dum

>>17585906
Fair enough. They do seem to make some cool stuff and I've contemplated getting some carbon bits for my gixxer.

>On a tight budget since I'm buying a new house
>Living off $60 fun money a week, everything else is going into savings
>Have a list 10 pages long of what I'm going to buy for my bike when I'm done saving

Can't wait senpai, gonna be ridiculous.

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>>17586023
jeeeesssssss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WrtWGyhUvw

>>17586068
gixxer you say? pics anon pics

whatcha all wanna do to that bad papper?

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I'm a weeb and drive a custom just for myself, is my first time here and need help.

Anyone know a helmet like pic related, just for the aesthetic? [spoiler]don't mind the price but some cheap sugestions are welcome[/spoiler]

2005 GSX600F will stall in 1st when I have the clutch pulled in and letting go of throttle trying to let it idle at say a stoplight or something, but idles just dandy in neutral. I just ran some Sea Foam through it today and have cleaned the carbs before but this problem has persisted since I bought it two months ago. Any ideas? Should I be in neutral every time I stop? I'm pretty new to this sort of thing but as far as I know this isn't normal.

>>17586159
It's called a full face helmet. Get one and a hot glue gun for the bow.

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>>17586159
Check out simpson helmets, just all of them in general.

>>17586239
>>17586242
Don't fucking reply to me ever again

>>17586221
Not normal no. You should be able to just clutch in at lights. Not long ago the bike I have just randomly died while engine braking a few times but seemed to fix itself

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>>17586239
found the best result after some time.
>bow
is just for the aesthetic

>>17586242
This one is awesome.
i don't know why i don't tried to research by "simpson" first

>>17586245
Not sure what I should do to it then. It does it even when it's all warmed up. To be fair I only paid $1200 for it but still most of what I've seen from it were really trivial fixes. Like a loose hose on the petcock, but this still bugs me that it's a thing. It seems to make it easier to stall when I go from stopped cause not enough throttle, and harder to take off without going wide ass open.

>>17586243
kys

>>17586027
Fire Dept states that vapor resides in the tank

>>17586280
Well if it's carbed it might need idle screw adjustment

>>17586343
My god I'm retarded, gonna try that tomorrow. I completely forgot that that was a thing. Thanks anon. Hopefully this fix the issue

>>17585859
What a fucking ugly bike

>>17586280
fix it and commute for years on it, lanesplitting and parking where you damn please while other 'tards are spending tens of thousands on new corollas with half the character and many times the expense just so they can commute with one of the five seats used up (most of the time). .

>>17586323
my mate told me a story, they needed to do some welding on a fuel tank. They drained the tank for a long period of time and put a cork in it. Apparently there was vapour left remaining. They commenced welding where it exploded and the cork flew across the room like a bullet, embedding itself in the wall.
My mate reckons that pros actually fill up the tank with a fluid to prevent combustion.

>>17586445
It will still be flammable, but especially if your bike is fuel injected it wont leak enough fuel vapor just sitting there to really be a fire hazard. Still wouldnt want to keep it in the furnace room, but should be safe enough.

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>looking on ebay for new bike
>see this monstrosity

it's a VFR 400 WHAT THE FUCK WAS HE THINKING

>Riding along in my SV
>Hear something from beside me
>look over
>"dude hollers out "Your Chain!"
>Immediately pull over and take a look
>my chain looks fine
>Everything else looks fine too
???

>>17586462
that's a shame, why couldn't he just have cleaned it up and put USD forks on it and called it a day. Or even made it a nice naked with a retro headlight on the CB1100. That's all you need.

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>>17586462
>when you run out of parts and have to dip into the mechano

>>17586463
better safe than sorry.
I'm sure it was well intentioned.

>>17586462
That actually looks pretty cool, besides the tank.
Also shouldn't have had so many fucking circles cut out of it, but whatever.

>>17586462
is this a good first bike

>>17586476
I'm grateful for it I'm just wondering what he saw and what he thought he saw

should i get bar end mirrors or just run no mirrors

>>17586557
for fuck sake run normal mirrors. Bar end mirrors are usually worse than useless and make your bike wider (harder to lane split).
No mirrors just makes your bike look ugly and you look very silly. Even more silly if you end up crashing which is always on the cards.

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the mirrors on my z look like absolute aids
>>17586563

>>17586462
Probably "how will I fix my wrecked bike when the only fairings available are broken, chinese, or $509 each?" followed by "hey, sheet metal is on sale".

>>17586571
mate I'm pretty sure there is an aftermarket for these bikes.
Buy some good ones instead of cheap aftermarket ones which will chip and fade in 6 months.

still no z125

>>17586584
I actually really like the (looks) of the Suzuki Van Van retro thing. http://www.suzukicycles.com/~/media/97A234B0B45E4257BD5563835D75981E.ashx?h=344

how cool would this be as a second bike.

>>17586415
That's the plan mang. I'm loving it more than anything I've ever done so far even with this thorn in my side. It's so free.

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>>17586584
The only z you should want should have a wing on the side.

>>17586462
that's pretty legit looking honestly. basically what >>17586572 said

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>>17585436
getting warp 9's or torpedo 7's to australia costs almost as much as my shitbike did

im pretty retarded when it comes to bikes as i've only ever ridden off road, how much of a difference did the chad rims make to ride?

just wrenched my first wrench
posted about my up-shifts getting stuck earlier
>connecting rod was bent up and out
>shift lever could push it out of way on the way up but would catch on it going back down
>took it out (hello reverse threaded rod!) and hammered it straight
play feels all right; I'll see how it runs tomorrow i guess.

Looks like a replacement rod is about $7. I should probably keep a list of things that need work and/or replacing as I notice them so I can order all at once; I think my left peg mount has a crack through one of its two bolt holes.

Any word from the fags at SAM yet?

>>17586767
Didn't happen
Mean while in Europe a pre-party was held already and people are about to depart for the 3th Annual SEM.

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>>17586783

>>17583659
1987 650cc jap cruiser as my first bike? Or should I just slit my wrists now? I'm not looking looking to ride aggressively or race, just commute and have some power available to me. I know how to drive manual and have been on a 400cc dual sport before and killed it my first time, I just didn't feel comfortable about the ride height, hence the cruiser idea. I'm getting my M1 in early August.
Tl;dr I want a bike that won't kill me, but you will probably tell me that it will kill me.

>>17586793
But a cruiser will kill you, but will say it won't kill you.

Get a XJ6, Er-6, SV650 or something like that.

>>17586793
are you a manlet?
>jap cruiser
doesn't get any more homosexual than that

>>17586803
I want something that I can buy for under $2500 used and not have to repair it every 150 miles >Harleyfags so I guess you could call me a homo, a homo that will enjoy riding more than fixing my bike.

>>17586803
>doesn't get any more homosexual than that

It could be a HD

>>17586822
They're both homosexual, one's a homo wannabe though, makes it slightly worse.

>>17583695
>tfw grill is too small to get onto bike

>>17586796
Uh, yeah... no. Not looking to be hunched over like Quasimodo after a 3 hour ride. Yes, I would consider riding for 3 hours straight.

>>17583864
New gs500 imported from brazil

>>17586829
One runs and the other sits in repair shops. Kys HD fag

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>>17586834
>hunched over
you have no idea what you're talking about

>>17584193
Is that you EF. Ya supertrucker poser.

>>17586841
>implying i'd ever own a cruiser regardless of where it was made
i'm only half gay, it would be out of place.

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>>17586834
What the fuck are you talking about?
I could easily do 3 hours on a XJ6.

What are my chances of getting busted/towed if I ride at night with only my permit?

I'd love to practice during the day, but we get up to 115F basically every single day by 10:00 AM. It's just infeasible to be outside for any amount of time and not die. By the time it cools down below 100, it's already dark. I kind of don't have a choice if I ever wanna git gud.

>>17586863
Offer up boipucci to arresting officer

>>17586863
not very likely. I ride home every night from work when I'm not supposed to.

does bike onboard computers usually use US or imperial gallons?

>>17586877
Freedom units

>>17586877
Litres.

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>Back in 1981, 3 of us set off from England for a 2-week touring ride around mainland Europe. I was on my T150V Triumph Trident and the other 2 had Z1000 Kawasakis. Before departing, giving more thought to the fact that we would only be away from home for 2 weeks rather than the fact that we would be putting in some serious mileage, one of the guys decided that with a fairly worn rear drive chain, he would remove a link to provide more adjustment should he need it. 5 days and 2500 miles later in Athens (yes, Greece!) the photograph shows the result. As you can imagine, the last 300 miles or so, were only achieved by tightening the chain to provide friction drive with what was left of the sprocket. Indeed, such was the strain on the chain, that the rollers had flats worn on them by the time we arrived at our final holiday destination.

>>17583892
Cables on a bike is thin and designed for a specific ampere. If you keep adding stuff you hopefully burn a fuse or in worst case the wiringloom. If you want to use the ignition, wire in a relay and add a new fuse.

>>17586863
What backwater nation only lets you ride during the day?

>>17586915
It's like that here in Clapistan while on a learner's permit.

>>17584608
Euro bikers are weird. Maybe it's just because nobody in America can drive but shit like that happens all the time. The other day I had some dick head in a truck pull up behind me as I was turning right, go into a non turning lane, and then try to pass me while turning right.

You just gotta expect people to do the dumbest shit imaginable

>>17586898
Liters

>>17586901
Good site that one.

>>17586918
Muh freedoms!

>>17586901
that's pretty crazy, didn't even know I was looking at a sprocket at first there.

ded thread
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ded hobby

>>17586901
appriciate the bike-gore but the junk? Not so much.

Please wear pants when doing photos like that.

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What dk you guys think of the kz1000, i wanna sell my 47hp cruiser for this its been up forever on the cruggslist.

DBT am I a tool for wanting to put a hotbodies mgp slip-on on my cbr300r? Anyone with experience able to say just how loud they get?

>>17587091
didn't even notice
find what you're looking for sweetie? ;) x

At my local cafe racer meets half the bikes aren't even cafe racers just old 70's bikes...

Owners think they are too original to modify even though they like cafe racers.

Is there a difference between US spec and European spec motorcycles?

I'm a besatzungstruppen here in Germany and I have an old shitty KLR650 as my beginner bike from 3 years ago, it has refused to die but It's too slow to accelerate at higher speeds and it's brakes are way too shitty to safely take on the autobahn, imo.

I'm thinking of buying a more street-oriented bike here, a used one, but I need something I can take back to the states. There are no dirt roads to speak of in Germany so the KLR is kinda pointless. They even pave the damn logging trails and firebreaks here.

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>>17587105
Did he hard-tail it?

Fucking crime, Toecutter wouldnt approve.

>>17586901
thats pretty gay

>>17587167
the us versions got ugly reflectors on the side.

>>17587170
What style of bikes would these be?

If you did this today people would say you ruined the bike.

What do cagers mean when they say "clip the apex" or "apex a turn/corner"?

>>17587190
Sport bikes of the day, or UJMs trying to look like a sport bike of the day (the original cafe racers)

>>17587105
you'd have to convert to satanism first

>>17587190
they are cafe racers strayan style

yes because these days you got better alternatives, back then you wanted to go fast you had to take a UJM and add a cowl, clip ons, remove the rear-seat and move the pegs to the back.

Its not like you could just buy a racing replica and those guys didnt ride for style reasons.

>>17587193
So do people consider these cafe racers?

Because they look like them but without the fenders removed.

>>17587202
removing fenders isnt a cafe racer thing

>>17587200
Not everyone wants the fastest bike possible.

People drive 1970's cars for style too but nobody hates on that.

>>17587176
Is that it? I can probably just buy some Coast Guard tape and meet the customs inspection that way, maybe.

I will probably get some Japanese 650cc type bike. I'm not sure if I get that motorcycle tariff for shit over 700cc or not, but parts would be impossible to get if it's only available in Europe or something.

>>17587209
good example because those people try to keep their cars in the most vintage condition possible.

They dont cut them up to look more like 1970s drag-strip racers.

>>17587205
Why do so many do it then?

Serious question.

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>>17583669
[Excited patriotic pannier chittering intensifies]

>>17587215
>They dont cut them up to look more like 1970s drag-strip racers.

Yes, they do.

>>17587216
because they dont have much to do with the original cafe racers anymore, least of all the culture.

I went to a classic british and european car show a few years ago.

Most of the cars were customised with things like superlite wheels, bigger carbies, cam shafts, race seats etc.

>>17587219
yeah right, plenty of single-seated mustangs with roll-cages, no hoods, giantass rear tires etc on the street.

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>>17587225
thats resto-modding though, thats fine because it actually tries to improve the performance of something.

"cafe races" usually still run on tube-tires and got drum-brakes ffs. Its just old bikes made less comfortable.

>>17587222
I don't care about "the culture"

I just want a cafe racer because it's a nice compromise between a bobber and a sport bike.

My alternative to owning a cafe racer would be to have a bobber and a cbr at the same time but nah, two bikes, twice the insurance and twice the registration fees...

I will just build a cafe bike, good compromise between both imo.

>>17587226
There are plenty of minitubed mustangs with drag car stance on the street.

>>17587230

I like period correct things.
I hate when people put 2jz motors and shit into mustangs.

>>17587234
Just get a naked bike with a style you like.

Or something like a Ducati Scrambler. It looks like a traditional cruiser type, but has standard ergos and it isn't pig-fat and slow.

>>17587234
>I just want a cafe racer because it's a nice compromise between a bobber and a sport bike.

>less comfortable as a bobber
>about as good to ride

yeah

>>17587234
How about the bolt c spec?
Or the SRC 950?

>>17587261
I quite like the bolt c spec.

Would it be really retarded to say it reminds me of a harley roadster?

>>17587271
No, it kinda looks like one but with Yamahahahahaha quality.

>>17583789
Super Duke 1290R

>>17587286
Unironically this

Im thinking old cb500 or 550 four or suzuki gs400 cafe bike.

I'm unsure of what bike for lams though...
probably just a cbr250.