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>>17427104
it actually wasnt that bad desu, its improved 110% from the last game
Ty Majeski BTFO
stick to vidya kiddo
what went wrong?
>pcars has shit physics
>ac ai is retarded and doesn't race other ai
>rf2 is garbage to look at and feels meh
>emulated gt4 can't do oversteer
>gt6 campaign was tacked on trash with rolling road block ai
>shit 4 random tracks feel uninspired and boring
>not buying another wheel to replay forza 4
will pcars 2 or forza 7 be the spark to re-ignite the single player simcade fire?
>>17427543
I love how when PCars came out everyone just said "This isnt forza, this requires skill to play!". The turning in that game was such a croc.
>>17427570
>you cant expect the game to come ready to play out of the box
>its a sim so looking for controller setting is normal
>people just dont get that this is a sim and are whining
>>17427543
Apparently AC fixed the AI, even James said it, so
>bought absolute drift
>suck shit at it
damn
>>17427884
i beat that game on kbm
step ur game up
Is it possible to make AC legitimately playable on controller? I fiddled around with it for a while but the steering just sucks.
>>17426024
jesus fuck take a chill pill this is video games not something serious
>>17426186
SJ. tho blackdoggo might be SJ's PS3 screen name
>>17427098
fuck off barney
>>17427749
Is that why AC default setups are useless?
>>17427461
We dropped rFactor 1
A new series with interesting cars that cater to large shill ranges is needed
We need /ovgfe/ - the first all electric funny man race
anyone else getting kind of bored of this game? once you complete it there's not a lot to do
>>17428104
Paint cars, race online, do the forzathons
>>17428104
It's twofold for me. Hotwheels fucking sucked, and for some reason it doesn't start up anymore for me so I'm disinclined to try to fix it.
>>17428208
Clean cache
>>17427123
>drag queen edition
Ironic timing.
Press F to pay respects
>>17427123
>Drag Queens Edition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJDWDXQPsKQ
why the fuck are we not doing ovgtp in rf2 is beyond me
>>17427884
but its so chill and easy
step it up m8
>>17428673
Because RANWEC was dead on arrival
>>17428673
we did
ranwec was dead on arrival
>>17428705
>>17428706
at least the server was working
>>17428673
>enduracers
that exact mod with the same shit physics is in rf1 as well
>>17428732
yet people were showing up for the races
>>17428723
Is Allie Ferrie /ourgirl/?
>>17428742
yeah so lets do it again. host it pls
>>17428763
oh no I won't host because I'm a massive pussy, I'll just keep shitposting until people cater to my interests and will never, ever, do anything other than just bitch and whine
>>17428914
wtf
>>17428104
You can clear out freeroam games by beating people repeatedly
Also play around with doing silly things to cars
>>17428914
ovg in a nutshell
So will the BMW race tonight happen or not
whiplash series when
>>17429686
nice sunday slot being wasted now what 3 weeks in a row? 10/10
http://www.racedepartment.com/threads/rdgpc-allie-ferrie-takes-shock-victory-at-silverstone.137148/
What have you achieved?
is there a place I can paypal a russian man $10 a month for a dedicated assetto corsa server
>>17429803
Paypal ranek instead
>>17429773
>wasted
host something instead
>>17429777
Top 3 finish in the bathurst 12 hours against well coordinated teams with the power of some vegemite, a can of pringles and ziki sauce
>>17429773
server issues this time
>>17429773
>>17429825
>>17429910
nvm it is happening apparently
>OVGTP and OVGM235 are struggling and losing weeks
>Turnleft is fun and goes with no problems
>>17429932
"based" italian programming
>>17429930
in how many hours ?
>>17429932
>/ovg/ is struggling and chasing people out
>Allie Ferrie is making a name for herself as a fast driver and winning races in competitive series
>>17429932
>AC
Based rF1
>>17429956
>american intentionally fucks restart up
>"omg those yuropoors are ruining it"
>>17429956
scotties Ownmaster 5000 paying for itself I see
>see crash ahead
>turn on lagswitch
>phase through it
>>17429971
>yuros can't handle restarts
>>17429956
Fuck of with that shitty rfactor clone
How is it better than AC anyway, or better yet, better than any shitty isimotor game...
>>17429955
>Valrys escaped
>While we are stuck in this shithole
I envy xer
>>17429948
1 and a bit
am i imagining things, or did this small AC update from couple days ago changed physics somehow?
>>17430132
no changes other than the live axle fix, ae86 drift is broken tho
Assetto Corsa more like Shitto Corsa kek
ghostmode cheat code actually worked
>>17430220
>login with google
>???
>download the track
>>17430095
Fake news?
>>17429932
>turnleft is fun and goes with no problems
for you
>>17430267
Fuck off aspie
>finally upgrade to win10 for fh3 now that fora 7 is coming out soon
>it still costs 60 dollars
>even shady websites like g2a has it for 53 bucks
is there really no way to get this thing cheaper? its a year old by now
>>17430334
nope. It's only on the windows 10 store so how would they get keys cheaper on other sites. The best you can do is either be a good goy and buy it or wait for a sale that most likely won't happen.
INITIAL D ARCADE STAGE 6 PLAYABLE ON PC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afnixywmTmg
Can anyone else join the BPR95 server in GTR2? Doc says the password is BPR95 but that is rejected. Also, none of the car skins are visible, all the cars are just random colors.
>>17430389
Need some more info.
What program is it running on? Where's the torrent? all that good stuff
>>17430342
>or wait for a sale that most likely won't happen
Horizon 3 was on sale like 6 months after its release.
>>17430391
Yes, password is BPR95, double check that you're typing it correctly, and remember that the numpad probably won't work because GTR2.
Also what do you mean by random colors?
>>17430404
>>17430404
https://teknogods.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=38603
Should the next Forzameet have a theme or no? I'm thinking that if we have a themed meet, the first one will be "tiny meme cars" such as the Reliant, BMW Isetta, Miata, etc. If not, what would be some ideal themes for the next meet?
>>17429777
>http://www.racedepartment.com/threads/rdgpc-allie-ferrie-takes-shock-victory-at-silverstone.137148/
>her
>>17430420
I am typing BPR95 and the game just freezes for 10 seconds when the checkmark is pressed.
Also the cars are all solid primary colors with no liveries.
>>17430468
That makes it unnecessarily restrictive, people have specific tastes nigga
>>17430524
From the little bit of debugging we tried, there must be some sort of network issue. Don't know why though.
Is the ASRX server hosted on OVH FR too?
>>17430468
muscle vs. tuner
>>17430553
yeah well open class also makes it a shitfest nigga
>>17430253
You guys should allow late joiners
This is bs
>>17430439
oh my
only works on amd gpus tho?
>>17430389
Why would I play this over Extreme Stage on PS3, especially when I can play it online?
>>17429773
>being wasted now
It's the opposite of wasted. Cars have been raced but there's been complications with real life stuff like Le Mans and the first week the server having the race but only 3 people showing up.
>>17430820
Complications like the fact we've chased everyone out?
>>17430836
How the hell could you chase everyone out?
Elaborate further
>>17430844
We become exclusive to certain games or groups, and cause too much drama
D A N M A R K
A
N
M
A
R
K
Nice job rear ending me out of the race faggets
>>17430856
>>17430844
I don't know, ask the mumble elite
>>17430816
it doesnt cost 40 dollars
VR is basicly cheating
>>17430844
old /ovg/ seasons had a mix of really talented drivers and backmarker shitters.
instead of realizing what we had, we catered to the shitters who were honestly there just to cause trouble.
>>17430879
>we catered to the shitters
nothing changed. people got tired of racing, people moved on, people got autistic.
>>17430862
>>17430879
>>17430883
I wasn't here in season 1 of /ovgt3/ but I've been here since
No one really got chased out apart from James and Valrys really, James for having too many opinions all the fucking time and pretending it's okay to crash into others and cut as long as he does it, Valrys for being a fucking twat, the rest just got other interests or whatever and that's fine
>>17430893
What is Cosmo
>>17430893
Valrys did nothing wrong and is a more successful driver than you.
>>17430893
but thats wrong
http://archive.4plebs.org/o/thread/14925008/#14925042
>>17430893
>>17430917
>My own site has mantained the original ideology of what /ovg/ once stood for
>It is nothing but shitposting and shilling
>>17430856
My game crashed at the end there, hope I did not hit you. Good job.
hey gt6 fags, im thinking of replacing el capitan with another track because in all honesty the track isn't that good and i would like some suggestions, track creator or otherwise. I would like something shorter, preferably around 2 miles long.
>>17430939
Lime rock with track creator?
>>17430926
meanwhile /ovg/ is just shitposting
>>17430931
You didn't, I was wondering what happened since you just continued straight on into the wall
>>17430947
all depends on how good the track is, but it sounds good
>>17430468
I second mussel v tuna
Has a lot of cars to choose from and makes low PI racing easy
>>17430893
no one was "chased out", people just left because of how shitty /ovg/ got
circlejerk series and ironic memers killed this place
>>17430939
also the fun race is probably going to be with a courtesy car. gonna try to switch every week between courtesy and non courtesy car fun races.
>>17431028
We literally chased out Blood-1 even though he was the only one who knew shit about modding.
sj
>>17431122
is prost
>>17431107
he was extremely autistic though
>>17431154
>this justification from the circlejerk for chasing him out
>>17430856
>>17430862
>>17430888
you only won because no canadians teenagers to kick your asses :^)
>>17431167
the man couldnt stop getting mad over nothing
>>17431167
It's ok to bully autists
>>17431028
hahaha is that a shadow government reference?
>chased out blood-1
>"n-no one was chased out!!"
Nice one shadow government
>>17430468
Bumping my best photos
tags
SJ Spork Juct SporkJuct Adrian Krieger Shadow Government Cipher La Li Lu Le Lo The Patriots
>>17431188
t. blood-1
also as recently as last week shadow government bullied out a kid
>>17431188
The shadow government chased me out after sabotaging my game
>>17431225
who
>>17428087
>SJ. tho blackdoggo might be SJ's PS3 screen name
Nah, there's a lot more interesting things to work on than racing or playing GT6 or setting up a series.
>>17431249
Like?
Ah, nothing like a good old shitposting session.
Done.
Good night everybody.
>>17431278
>shitposting about muh shadow government while some kid is spamming forza pics
Haven't felt this comfy in a while
>>17431271
playing arma 3
>>17431287
fuck off.
>>17431271
Getting kicked out of university
>>17431307
U wot m8
>>17431271
getting a dui and losing your license
>eternal wog finally beaten
>>17431325
Did I fucking stutter?
Fuck off, and preferably kys
>>17431350
>did I stutter
get a more powerful cpu m8
>>17431219
>>17431227
>>17431325
v nice
how did you manage this pic? did you just get extremely lucky with the drivatards
>>17431205
>>17430389
i want this
so
goddamn
bad
PLEASE SEGA, MAKE ONE FOR THE PC, WITH THE ARCADE STYLE TIMES AND CHECKPOINTS
any sim gaycers worth buying during the summer sale?
>>17430816
lower cost, triple monitor is compatible, its another game to play, its on pc so if you want and can, crank up dat SSAA
>>17430875
can confirm
STIGAY IS A FURFAG
>>17430939
What's this game?
>>17431569
The Bunch
>>17431569
fartza horizon 2
>>17431569
rage racer (ps1)
For a bunch of people who are supposedly dedicated to sim racing there is an awful lot of crash footage
>>17431630
In any sim game there's constant crashing unless every river is autisticly pro
>>17431633
have..
have you guys tried braking
>>17431647
braking makes you slower. pro drivers dont brake
>>17431630
>>17431633
gee it's almost like crashing is intrinsic to motorsport or something
>>17431654
>he doesn't ram into everyone in front of them to use them as human brakes
Get a load of this fucking scrublet
>>17431647
what are brakes?
isnt that what you hold at the start of dirt rally races?
i never use them after that
>>17431633
iracing only has wrecks every other race from my experience
probably because the people are paying monthly for it, so it weeds out shitters
>>17431675
it's like you havent seen all the iracing shitter webms posted here
>>17431658
you could race within your limitations and the limitations of the view provided by the game
-or-
"fuck that guy i want this line"
seriously if you dint get the guy under braking then back out and if someone got you then dont pretend the car isnt there. this doest even get into the intentional shitter moves
>>17431675
iracing is sad on lower skill levels because of raging people, and then you rage through induction. nothing ruins the mood better than this one faggot who spun out, fell down few places, and then decided to ram random people on the last laps because he don't feels like racing anymore
>>17431685
has someone called me?
>>17431435
I was cruising in group and then that happened, so luck + timing.
>>17431716
>that supra in the background
and its not riced out
HHHHGGGNNN
(captcha: avenue avenue)
>>17431716
>tfw never caught an afterfire
>>17431674
>isnt that what you hold at the start of dirt rally races?
>not shifting into neutral for countdown and launching with gearshift
>>17430947
Alright i did some testing and the version i found is really well made, but ultimately it's too short. i think the boost gets fucky with really short tracks and 1.5 miles just isn't big enough. Something like Grand Valley East, Deep Forest, or Trial Mountain would be the perfect fit in my opinion, but i also want other people's suggestions / feedback.
>>17431802
doesnt work with slanted starts from what i remember though, right?
Is f1 2016 worth 15 bucks ?
>>17431857
ok thanks
>>17430650
>>17430977
I'll likely do Muscle vs Tuners if anything, then
By the way, meet this Friday?
>>17431836
are there even any slanted starts in SHiT Rally?
>>17431716
Are you on PC? Those graphics are fucking amazing.
>>17432169
>low res reflections
>amazing
Low standards
Can someone tell me why iRacing exists, and would I would ever play it?
>>17432361
Because no one else offered an online system like theirs
>>17432366
I don't get what makes it so special, they just seem like super kikes to me desu
>>17431271
>Like?
Evolve some eyes.
>>17432396
They are, but if you absolutely need to race something online any time of day, that's the only way to do it with any reasonable number of human participants.
Should I buy Assetto Corsa since its on sale?
Seems like the only good racing game on PC.
>>17432361
Some Jew thought nr2003 was really good, but not before he thought about how he could make some shekels
>>17432879
Only if you have a wheel
>>17432975
That is a bummer. Been eyeing project cars but I heard many bad things about it.
>>17432975
What makes AC worse than rF2 with a controller? I play rF2 with a controller and do fine (I'm bad but I still do fine, a wheel isn't literally required for playing the game)
>>17431824
Do Grand Valley because it's just such a good track.
I just got AC from the sale, how do I install the shit I need to race with /ovg/ I have it already downloaded just what folder do I either extract/put shit in.
>>17433779
content folder
>its habbening
pfffrt
>>17434012
hahaha is your plate an initial d reference??
>>17432993
nothing
>>17433911
>tfw i coded the IT'S HABBENING into the original googledoc
>>17434135
mvp
>>17431824
smokey mountain
>>17430939
Peep 'Hot Lap Hillside' in my shared tracks. I'd link it, but GT's online service isn't working for me right now.
>>17432169
Yes.
>>17432169
It's the photomode anyway, even on X1 the graphics will look like that.
>>17434135
Whoa your pretty good. Did you learn that at day of code??!
In Norisring, a very short and very flat track, would it be beneficial to run a stiff setup with loads of aero?
Considering I'm running a DTM car, I can use DRS, but even then, there are no high speed corners, the only place I could kind of get some advantage would be at turns 4 and 5, and even then, kinda minor advantage too.
Any help is welcome, I need to be able to run 0:50 at this track, I'm currently at 0:52
>slrr on sale
>$10 off
>>17434412
so it's free now?
>>17434416
I meant percent
>>17434391
It's a relatively bumpy track, a car too stiff might end up snapping in the braking zones. You could just try and see how it goes.
>>17434391
Since you have DRS, I'd say that you should go for a high downforce setup, seeing as the disadvantage of low top speed is being countered by it.
I don't know about stiffness. It may be good but it may not be, depending on how bumpy the version you are running is.
One of the really difficult things I found about the track is finding the balance between acceleration and top speed, seeing how you need good acceleration from all the slow corners, yet you also need somewhat good top speed for the main straight
>>17434437
I'm trying, however, I can't get the car to not understeer on corners 4 and 5, just fuck my shit up
>>17434412
>paying for slrr
good god what
>>17434391
what game is it? you'd probably be better off running the lowest aero assuming it actually slows you down on a straight. all those corners are slow enough where aero grip isnt going to help much.
Does anyone know how to setup my wheel in ARCA? I have the Thrustmaster Ferrari meme wheel, and when I plug it in to my PC, it starts spinning qnd lights turn on, but ASRX won't recognize any inputs.
>>17434412
slrr?
>>17434472
Street Legal Racing Redline
The only game with worse driving physics than GMod.
>>17434457
AC.
I know it makes almost no difference, I run somewhat the same times with or without aero, since I can use the DRS at every straight in this track.
>>17427194
Late reply, sorry.
How do the physics feel? That's my number one concern right now, because they looked a lot like Rivals in the trailer.
>>17434382
I copied it from the Excel 5.0 for Dummies example CD-ROM
>>17434458
Option screen ;^)
Double check it's visible in the controllers control panel before
is My Summer Car pretty good?
What's the gameplay like?
>>17434487
The driving physics of GMod aren't even that bad
I don't get it, people always call them shit but I've never had a problem driving anything. Obviously it's not a dedicated racing game, but it's not really that bad, vehicles are drivable bare minimum.
>>17434590
Finnish life
>>17434590
it's the coolest gimmick game i've ever played. like surgeon simulator, except aimed a little bit better towards autists
>>17427194
>>17434504
i am also interested in this
looks like another shitty nfs "be da hero (actually we want to drive criterion's gameplay into the ground cuz we bought them)" driving style.
EA kills everything good man. always.
>>17434621
lol is that a jojo reference??? xD
Is there a shitter friendly series for ac? Ide like to race with you guys for fun but i am new to racing sims in general
>>17434660
join any series (325i? is it even happening or not? saw some problems, wasn't quite interested at the moment), then just stay on the back like people with bad lap times do. Isually there are some other shitters so you can have fun and battles as well.
ovg is shitter friendly overall
>>17434660
Touring Car Thursday and the BMW sunday series.
I cant get the AC DLC unlocker to do anything. Any tips?
>>17434685
You have to download all the cars and tracks still, download link is in the doc somewhere
>>17434696
OK. Links seems broken on the M235i doc page.
>>17434590
Building the car is very fun.
Driving the car is alright, no real FFB but it handles somewhat realistically.
The rest is meh, mostly chores.
>>17434648
no, this is a jojo reference.
nig rats, any idea of the new ovgtp schedule? I'm brewing something for the off-weeks and I need dates for the doc
>>17434821
Is it shadow government sanctioned?
>>17434660
all series are shitter friendly dont worry
>>17434831
muh 104%
>>17434828
We're shadow government rebels. Fighting against the mainstream ovg media and the mumble-led oppression of the racing masses. Join us to make ovg great again!
>>17434844
What if we added back a percent rule, but banning drivers faster than 93% of the slowest qualifying time?
>>17434852
To make it clearer, shitty mcshitter does a 1:40, anyone faster than 1:33 gets booted out.
>>17434846
Nah, that's RYOSB
>>17434856
>Everyone lines up at the finish line and waits for the quali session to be 93% complete
Intredasting…
I need 100GB for FM7. Help me decide what game I uninstall to get enough space
>AC
>ARMA 3
>Spintires
>GTA V
>RIDE 2
>DiRT 4
>DCS WORLD
>War Thunder
>Forza Horizon 3
>The Crew
>DiRT Rally
>Project Reality
>ETS2
>PCARS
>PCARS 2
>>17434905
GTA V, SpinTires, PCars 2, The Crew, Dirt 4.
Depending on how much you play them.
Arma 3, Ride 2, Dirt Rally, War Thunder/DCS
>>17434905
Arma 3, DCS World War Thunder and Project Reality.
Cars are all you need.
are the DTM cars in AC balanced? Something tells me the Alfa is just faster
>>17434918
If you want good DTM cars play R3E
>>17434905
AC, The Crew, PCars, DiRT 4
>>17434918
(nurburgring tourist times) Alfa is indeed the fastest dtm. But cars are surely close enough to have casual fun on public server race - 5 seconds of difference might sound like much but that's nurburgring, super long track.
>>17434918
>Something tells me the Alfa is just faster
The Alfa is newer than the BMW and Mercedes and not running on the same regulation. It's a shame there are no 1993 versions of all cars
>>17434918
>13k rpm limiter or something around it
>this exhaust
this alfa makes me pop a boner
>>17431658
So is playing around other cars without crashing, the worst thing about track racing games is that the element of actually competing and battling for positions is replaced with people crashing into each other. There's no point of track racing if people don't respect how the track works.
>>17431340
>>17431383
>he paid for pro partway through the season and still can't maximise his points
lol
>>17434862
You're small in the pants if you write RYOSB instead of BYOSB.
>>17434905
FM7 hasn't even been announced though
Regardless, uninstall PCars and PCars 2, The Crew, GTA V (65 fucking gigs), AC.
rFactor > AC and PCars desu
Some of you people steal quality kunos spaghetti code and use it in illegal online races, right? Is it possible to find newest version, let's say, right now, or is it "not out yet/wait for crack/whatever else"? Or can one connect to the server with game version mismatch?
i want to ride around nurburgring with a friend, but he's a filthy jew and prefers not to thank italians for their hard work
>>17435134
You're a faggot and deserve your face to be raped.
Base game cannot be cracked online. You'll need to buy it.
DLCs can be pirated but unless you enjoy mismatches and russian cracks you're better off buying some.
Also the Nurburgring is overrated, go back to fucking driveclub you turbokike.
>>17435130
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forza_Motorsport_7
>>17435157
you seem to be a little bit mad for some reason
well, thanks for the info
>>17435130
It's been announced and you can pre-order. Have a JDM lover.
Any games i should buy during the sale? Have ac already
>>17435549
rFactor
>>17435549
rFactor Pro
>>17435549
rFactor 2
>>17435549
rFactor 3
>>17435549
rFactor Horizon 3
>>17435549
rFactor 0.5 (GTR 2)
>>17435549
rFactor Challenge 99-02
>>17435578
>>17435583
>>17435585
>>17435594
>>17435604
>>17435606
>>17435615
Already have rfactor and gtr2. No memes pls
>>17435549
>>17435621
GTR 3
>>17435621
Then you don't need anything else, maybe rFactor 2 if you want to join in some /ovg/ leagues ( I think they have some rFactor 2 leagues, I dunno)
Why does turnleft take place in another game that's not rFactor? What makes it better and worth it to get an entirely different game?
>>17435649
it is literally rfucktor
>>17435649
It's rfactor with turnleft rules, tons of tracks, decent cars, and turnleft tires.
>>17435657
>>17435668
Then what's shit shit about ARCA being a different game that's "based off of rFactor 1"?
>>17435698
There's nothing shit about it
http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/reliant-robin-mk-1.2795/
>>17435722
fuck yeah
series when
>>17435722
>you must be logged in to do that
>>17435832
www.racedepartment.com/downloads/reliant-robin-mk-1.2795/download?version=27833
>>17435876
this is not quite how it works, anon
NFSU2 Dyno Dumps incoming.
350Z, AE86, GTO, JZA80, MUSTANG, MX5, R34.
1/7
2/7
>>17435621
Split/Second - $5
Locked at 30FPS and no DLC that consoles got, but get over that and you'll have a blast with the meme it is.
3/7
4/7
5/7
6/7
>>17435698
>iRacing is not free
>We already did rFactor 2 turnleft
>AC has no good turnleft
>American Stock Car is too obscure
>Same story with original NASCAR Heat
>NR2003 has terrible net code
>/ovg/ hates rFactor 1
So we played an rFactor mod called ASRX. It's not a bad game, but slightly hypocritical.
7/7
>>17435974
>/ovg/ hates rFactor 1
>The only shadow government approved series that isnt DOA is in rFactor 1 with mods
Lol
>>17435993
Exactly, but the shadow government keeps pushing anti rf1 propaganda
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>>17435976
Only 1 more of an RX7 but my game is fucking up and the crack isnt working so I can redo it and tune the ECU/Turbo like and compare as the other ones..
Shitty crack doesnt work..
>>17435999
#NotMyShadowGovernment
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>>17436013
Fresh bread
>>17434905
>PCARS 2
How do you have PCARS 2? It isnt even finished..
>>17430334
Not a year yet dumbass
>>17434590
No ffb which makes driving frustrating.
My toaster can get 60fps out of AC, but struggles at 25 in my summer car, on the lowest possible settings.
I might be fun, but I'm probably not going to touch it again, until I get a better PC, which is unfortunate.