[ D a i l y B i k e T h r e a d ] - /dbt/

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time to replace my seat. found this outside of a store last night.

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>brakes feel a little wooden
>hmm pads look fine
>let's bleed the front
>no fluid coming out of left bleed valve
>pull the bleed valve
>clear
>ok
>take apart left caliper
>pistons sticking, caramel brake fluid sludge
>clean and order new seals
>hmm let's check the line while I'm at it
>caramel sludge in both banjo fittings
>caramel sludge in the junction
>gotta get new lines
>gotta clean the junction somehow
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>17386251
You motherfucker.
I'm jelly OP.

>>17386338
buy a new junction

>>17386362
Pic not mine, you mongrel.

I'm stuck in a 3rd world country myself.

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>six weeks until SEM
>can't decide whether tires are good until next year or not
>can't decide if I should change oil before or after
>need to decide now if I want to get it done by then
Damn.

>>17386367
fuck are you srs

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>honda made over 60 million super cub
>cant find a single good condition one in the US
>feelsbadman.jpg
im saving up to import a mint condition one from asia

>order new master and slave for clutch system
>get a call 20 minutes after ordering
>the part is in some warehouse in japan, it will be over a month before i get it
>tfw no overnight parts from japan
I really wanted to ride this week dammit

>>17386385
I feel it senpai

>evens ride
>odds hit the gym

>>17386400
Dubs = ride to the gym

>>17386400
Yuss, bye weebs

>>17386402
Id say thats a good idea, but my gym is in my basement..

>>17386376
I might be misunderstanding. Describe what the junction is?

>>17386418
I mean the metal dingus with one hose coming in from the master cylinder and two hoses coming out, one to each caliper. My dad claims it's called a "camel."

>tfw I was gonna ride this weekend and now I can't
>tfw I was gonna ride to work Monday and now I probably can't do that either.

>>17386441
Yeah, just fucking replace it. It's just a proportioning block.
Why are both your brakes on one lever?

>>17386506
Actually honestly it shouldn't be hard to clean. Chuck some pipecleaners in a drill and fucking go for it or get one of those bendy brushes.

>>17386506
>Why are both your brakes on one lever?
aren't both front brakes usually on one lever?

>>17386512
still gonna have to replace the lines though, I take it

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post bikes

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>>17386523
Yes, provided you took the time to describe your bike as having double fronts.

Like if I had come on describing the squeaking my brakes make, then went 6 posts before saying (typing) the word "drum."

>>17386638
my bad senpai I thought it went without saying

anyway, what do you think--replace the lines?

>>17386648
Yeah. Easier than cleaning, longer lasting fix.
On my econobox, I take every replacement opportunity to upgrade the part and whatever's attached to it.
Maybe treat yourself to new calipers if you've got the cash, too.

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I call this baiku by the lake.

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>>17386602

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4-bangbros report in

>>17386700
why did you post that again?

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>>17386602

>>17386602
Why?

>>17386735
>what is backpressure

>>17386700
>YAMASHIT
confirmed

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>>17386602

plan
>get my dinner
>wank
>go to sleep
>get up at 12 for some midnight exploration
thoughts

>>17386823
Do it

>>17386823
>>17386828
But make sure to post pictures

>>17386823
>midnight exploration
Sounds fun

>>17386832
will do, I'm in gmt so 00:00 is 4hours away. Also open for requests if you want to see anything in particular (that isn't my dic / boi puss).

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>get bike inspected
>fails, needs tires
>bike shop only stocks a small variety of dunlops
>buy tires online, new bridgestones
>bring tires in to get mounted
>NO
>shop only installs tires you buy from them even though they have no variety
>mfw
>tell him that makes no sense
>manager literally laughs at me
>says it'd be like bringing your own eggs to a restaurant and asking them to cook them for you
>I tell him that's dumb
>leave

this bike shop literally has service in their name

and the kicker is, I just called up another bigger shop/ dealer and even though they stock a wide variety of tires they said they could install whatever tires I bring in.

>>17386805
Literally a complete and utter detriment to performance in all but two-strokes but memed as necessary because of mongoloids who installed straight through exhausts without any tuning, lost performance, and swore that backpressure was good for power.

>>17386907
Some shops are just retarded

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Hey guys, what are your thoughts on a "cafe racer" as a first bike?

Or any old bike, really. In my country, if I buy something pre-1987 insurance is about 95% cheaper (yes 95%) compared to something post-1987. A Ninja 300 is around $1800 a year for me to insure, at which point I'd be writing it off every three years. That doesn't really feel like an option to me.

For reasons I can explain later, I recently sold my car because I don't really have any need for it, or any form of transport for that matter, and couldn't motivate the costs that keeping it would incur.

I've been debating buying a motorcycle instead, because while I don't need one I really like being propelled along by setting fire to prehistoric plants and animals, but is a veteran bike a good idea? The riding would be limited to afternoon or evening rides on sunny days whenever I feel like it, and possibly an 80 mile ride on country roads to my summerhouse. There are no highways/freeways to it.

I've heard V-twins make good first bikes because of their power delivery; what about a Yamaha Virago 500 or 750? For a little more money, I could get a BMW K100, but I have no idea how on of those behaves.

1) Are the brakes as shitty as people say on old bikes?
2) Are old bikes generally as unreliable as the word around the web seems to suggest?
3) Are old bikes (with old suspension geometry/components) a lot more difficult to ride?

My dad has let me ride his Honda Deauville (650cc, V-twin) which I thoroughly enjoyed, and I didn't kill myself, so there's that. We use 50cc off-road bikes for transport around the summerhouse, I've been riding those for years. I have some riding experience, but not with old/veteran bikes.

>>17386946
>A Ninja 300 is around $1800 a year for me to insure
What the fuck

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well i finally texted a seller and will head out to inspect a bike for the first time in a couple of hours
wish me luck with my anxiety br/o/s

>>17386907
so basically
if you had 2 sets
summer and winter tires
and you bring them with the bike in to change
they'd want you to buy a new set of tires every summer/winter because they don't want to use the ones you already own?
that's probably the most retarded thing a shop might do

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>>17386956
It's because I'm 22 years old, once you reach 25 I've heard the cost of insurance goes down a lot.

But yeah, it's pretty fucked up. And that's a basically brand new 300 with ABS.

>>17386984
>>17386946
what country?

>>17386999
Probably canada

>>17386370
Well you suck then!

>>17386999
>>17387050
Sweden actually. So it's much worse than Canada...

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anybody got experience with fuel system cleaner additives?

Does this shit really work or is it just occult tuning?

>>17386384
I know your feel, not even in a bike related way.
>Mazda made over 1 million RX-3's
>Absolutely 0 for sale in the US
>Last one that sold was riced and clapped out in New York and they were asking 20k

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>>17386946
>are the brakes as shitty as people say?
That's down to the speciifc bike and how it's been maintained. Even old TLS drum brakes can lock the front wheel. That said, I had a 1993 kawasaki where you could pull the brake lever to the handlebar and it couldn't lock the wheel. The lines, pads, and rotors were all shot.

>are old bikes unreliable
Only if they haven't been maintained properly. But they fail differently to new bikes. New bikes will have a pattern failure of one weak part, for example bmw k1600s are chewing water pumps. Whereas old bikes will have random failures because you are past the design life of the bike.

>are old bikes more difficult to ride?
no

Find an autist selling an old UJM in good condition and you won't be disappointed. CB550, GS850, XJ650, nighthawk, XS650 are all good bikes to dip your toes in. I wouldn't recommend a k100, the design philosophy doesn't match your intended purpose. Happy riding.

Have a 500R with a yoshimura pipe. If I remove the baffle, that won't cause enough of a difference to require a remap/tune, correct? Sounds awful with the baffle in and wanted to see if it might be a bit better with it out.

>>17387167
>remap
>on a 500

wat

>>17387192
Am I retarded? I just got this, had a 600RR before, which required a remap with a new exhaust.

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>>17386972
man it never rains but it pours
just noticed this got posted a few hours ago - both cheaper and closer to me. here's hoping the guy checks his email, let's see if i can make today a twofer

>>17386943
When I ran a shop, if I were busy I would not pull someone off of a Job that makes good money to, barely make the rate and that's a on a car where you can zip wheels and tires of very quickly.

Lets say they charge $10 bucks a tire and make $50 on each tire we sell, so a total of $120 profit all said and done. If the mechanic does it in under an hour the job is ahead (assuming my local insane 100 an hour rate) $20.

If we did the same job but didn't sell the tires, and it still takes an hour. We are now behind $80.

On a slow day I'll take 20 over nothing, but on a busy Saturday when that same mechanic can make atleast 80 more in the same time span, why would I?

I know it is inconvenient, but you MIGHT be able to get a better price if you bring them just the wheels and tires, hell they might even just ask you to tip the mechanic since that part is the quickest if you have a good tire machine.

>>17387202
I'm not saying you have to push asides other jobs to do it, but refusing to mount tires because you didn't buy them there is retarded
>hell they might even just ask you to tip the mechanic
wat

So I just replaced the oil and filter after buying my first bike a few months ago, and though the bike is in extremely good condition for its age, I know there's the whole mantra of replacing/checking a bunch of stuff after buying used, even if the seller said they'd done it all, so my question is in addition to oil, what else should I be looking at checking/re-doing? Coolant? Bearings, at least re-packing (if that's even a thing on motorcycles)? Mine's a shaft drive, so I'm guessing drive oil too?

>>17387224
brake fluid

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>>17387154
Thanks a lot for the detailed answer. I somehow got the idea that all older brakes were terrible, glad that's not the case.

Since I won't ever *need* the bike as such, unexpected failures and (possible) waiting times for parts or for having it in a shop won't be as big of a deal as if I was going to ride it to work every day. That's my thinking anyway, and makes me feel a little more comfortable with the idea of buying an older bike.

>CB550, GS850, XJ650, nighthawk, XS650 are all good bikes to dip your toes in.
This is great, I've got some reading to sink my teeth into for the night. Thanks again.

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>>17387233
stop cafe'ing CX500s

>>17387233
>those wheels

this must ride like absolute horeshit

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>>17387233
also as an owner of a classic japanese standard my CX was extremely reliable. I bought it after it sat for 4 years in a shed for 800 dollars, put a few days of work into it, and immediately used it as my only vehicle for a year and 13000 ish miles.

There's a few things you are going to have to live with, like >carbs, old worn out suspension and usually a heavier bike than the contemporary and old parts that are starting to get worn out.

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>>17387275
G Ü L L E P U M P E

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>>17387324
p much. I kind of miss that bike though, even if it was shit it was my first real bike and it faired well.
>day I got it

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>>17387323
It's a very interesting bike, that's for sure.
All the bikes I'm looking at seem to have carbs, I guess multiple carbs is just something I'll have to learn how to deal with.

What's your opinion on shaft vs chain? People claim shafts are "maintenance free" but in my experience there's no such thing. Heavier but less dirty than chain?

>>17387355
Shafts are pretty much maintenance free.

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>>17387337
About to start biking and thinking about my first bike myself. CXs would've interested me but they seem a little old and frail, so now I'm thinking about a Hawk/Revere or a Magna.

>>17387355
Shafts can go a long time without maintenance, compared to a chain that needs attention every 1000ish kilometres, depending on how lazy you are.

why does my bike kill batteries every 2 months?
it wont start (and it's kickstart only) and the dash is blank.
I had to wire it to the car to start it and as soon as I removed the cables the rev counter was falsesly displaying the highest rpm possible and it didnt run very well, it was very smokey
battery is kill, but it was new, wont recharge

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>>17387362
It was an excellent bike. if you get an 80-82, it will be as stout as any bike. Like I said I beat the shit out of mine, literally did backroads blasts every 3 days for a year straight, the thing never missed a beat.

It is not the lightest bike, but the handling was pretty sweet and it had a decent amount of torque for a first bike. Nice thing about the bike is it is super easy to do maintenance on if you want to learn, and things like shaft drive and nut and screw rockers make it fairly maintenance free.

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>>17387355
pretty maintenance free all things considered. maybe change the gear oil every 15-30k miles but you literally don't do much.

carbs aren't /that/ bad all things considered, just knowing how exactly to clean them makes a world of a difference. Once the carb is dialed though, if you use the bike regularly and keep fuel flowing through it you won't run into any issues.

>>17387375
yes but mantaining a chain is far simpler
plus it's lighter
plus no rocking forces
plus better torque transfer
plus less complex
plus less expensive

but you can still get a shaft if it stops you from whining because you have to put some oil and tighten it up every once in a while

>>17387407
maintenance on shaft drive
>drain oil
>flush oil through
>fill to desired level
>forget for 4 years
gee, so much effort billy.

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>>17386384
You want my 2015 rustbucket?

>>17387424
no, gib honda win

>>17387376
Alternator is fucked

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>/fa/ here

will this bike get me laid? this bike would look soo cool in my living room.

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>>17387324
>PÖPEL
>PÖPEL
>PÖPEL
i have no idea what this comic was about except maybe fuel efficiency or fuel pumps but it's euro as fuck and i like it

>>17387453
Actually, Bauer Horst's manure pump broke so they hooked up the CB500X's water pump up. The rider wasn't happy about it but he's a cast wheel cuck so he didn't do shit.

>>17387447
You're probably gonna need bigger bait.

>>17387470
I kind of liked the comstars

and cb500x is a cucktier numale motorcycle

>>17387453
basically the germans referred to the CX500 as a liquid shit pump for some reason. Germany is a strange place.

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>>17387470
kek

>>17387275
That your's, Kit Kat?

>>17386956
>sports bike
>male
>under 25
Yeah, it actually is super ridiculous. Re-roll your class and stats:
>cruiser
>female
>26
>$70 a year

>>17386946
Get a Shadow, a V-Star or Virago, whatever v-twin cruiser you can find for a good price. Don't listen to the literbike memers or the "first bike 250cc or less" folks, 600 to 750 cc range will be more than enough to transport you short and long distances with cargo or passengers as needed, without feeling the upgrade itch after your first year. Jap parts cheaper than BMW, I'd go for the Virago.
Old Hondas are fun. Old bikes aren't that harder to ride, new bikes just have random comfort things you don't need. They're not unreliable depending on the bike either, just download the shop manual for them and keep it handy. Yamaha are quality as fuck. Harleys are meme bikes that rattle apart at speed and need constant repairs; did an 8 hour trip to Denver and my 600 Shadow was braaappping with wide open throttle working as hard as she could past the speedo's 90mph, while my friend's 1200 Sportster vibrated to a point of extreme discomfort above 70; we had to tighten down shit on his bike at half the gas stops, headlight cables rattled out and shit.

If you get an older bike, shit will break sometimes, but it's easy to fix. Get a small tool pouch for your forks; I keep one on my Shadow with some wrenches, spare plugs, a little jump pack, zip ties, random electrical shit. I rarely need them.

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>>17387514
it was when I lived in oregon. I have an FZ6 now.

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>>17387476
It's actually not that Germany referred to the CX as a slurry pump and the joke got adopted by the comic author, it's that the comic author made the joke and Germany adapted it.

The author's name is Brösel and at the time he was drawing the hugely successful comic and animated movie series Werner. The guy is an oldschool chopper guy and he could not take the CX with its liquid cooling, electric starting and shaft drive with all its futuristic dohickeys seriously at all, so he made it the subject of comical jokes on more than just one occasion, but the poop pump comic strip is what stuck to the minds of people.

>>17387516
>ninja 300
>sport bike

>>17387453
It's just a German onomatopoeia (written sound), assumingly of what the author thinks an undersized V2 sounds like.

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>>17387527
that's actually pretty interesting. The hondas I have owned (other than my SL125) all seem to have been loaded with tech that was ahead of its time. My 85(6?) VT700C had shaft drive, electric start, the stupidest electrical fuel pump system (but it helped keep the bike really narrow), over drive, dual plugs and a bunch of other goodies.

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>>17387527
Here's Werner visiting the inspections to get his new "sausage indicators" approved:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n31j2_dkaCo

Absolutely essential Werner.

>>17387476
>basically the germans referred to the CX500 as a liquid shit pump for some reason. Germany is a strange place.

its because the CX500 is water-cooled which some might consider bad engineering being a small engine and longitudinal V-twin as well.

I mean the entire point of that engine design is better airflow for cooling.

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>>17386373
>can't decide if I should change oil before or after
do it before

>>17387324
gotta love Werner

>>17387614
I guess I will, it'll only take a day anyway.
The tires though, I just can't decide... it'll take longer and be fucking expensive.

>>17387586
it also was good for shaft drive being longitudinally mounted. in reality they went, "we make a moto guzzi-uh and improve it"

>>17387568
I audibly kek'd

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>>17387622
If they need changing soon anyway I would do it before the tour. Would really suck having shitty worn out tires in the mountains.

>>17387654
A E S T H E T I C

do those use the same motor as the shadow 750?

Let's say I take a corner, roll on some wet leaves and the rear wheel spins out. Would electronic aids save me?

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my m8s cg125 scrambler
things an absolute laugh to ride
he's selling it if anyone's interested.

>>17387654
They don't feel bad or worn out, I'm just noticing how the tread depth is going down. I keep hearing people ride the BT45s for like 5k kms and change them twice a year; I've had mine for over a year now and done like 10k km on them.

>>17386934
Low revs matter.

>>17387671
Is it difficult to change forks around like this?

>>17387688
no but expensive

they cost more than the entire bike.

>>17387708
Fuck

>>17387688
i'm not entirely sure.
i dont know much about this stuff.
i believe there was quite a bit of welding involved in this bike.
half the subframe (rear) is from a cbr125 and the entire front end is from a yz125r.

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early cruise on the Enfield and my buddies honda in the background.

>>17387708
he only paid £80 for the front forks.
from a written off yz125.

>>17387687
A function of scavenging, not backpressure.

>>17387688
It'd be better to just swap over some other bike's front end, wouldn't it? How much could a gixxer front cost from a wrecker's or craigslist?

>>17387732
>>17387736
Yeah it's the potential custom fabricating costs I'm worried about.

>>17387736
a gixxer front end on a 125?
does your brain work ok?

>>17387753
>not wanting a gixxer front end on your 125

>>17387757
it would give you the most retarded nose high rake that would just look stupid.

>>17387765
Just put smaller wheels on it.

>>17387775
the proportions would still be fukt, like wr antons mum

>>17386384
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQipxZd9bDY

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i hope y'all ready for it

Threadly reminder the cx500 has
>pushrods

>>17387835
and 4 valves per cylinder and hits valve float at about 10k.

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Husaberg/WR/Beta bro reporting in.

Confirmed Beta XTrainer is best day ride dual-sport bike.

>>17387106
Is your bike carbureted?
>yes
Run twice a year.
>No
Are you a pussy? (Seasonal rider)
>yes
Run after storage
>no
Only if you get symptoms of a partial blockage

>>17387106
I put some in one of my cars, and it must have dislodged something in the gas tank or fuel line, but it clogged up the injectors with debris

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>>17387670
Jesus saves. Skynet is only here to lull you into a false sense of security.
>>17387224
Valve clearance. It's just intimidating enough to ward off most casuals, but can severely shorten the life of your engine.
>>17387106
Sidebar: yes additives work, but what's the ideal one for a motorbike? Seafoam is cheaper, but I **feel** better putting the brand this cat named into my carbureted bikes.

>face when it's raining today, but you don't stress because the whole week following finals will be sunny 70's
Any western WA anons for a ride, on a weekday?

so i found a brand new cbr300r with abs from a dealer for 3700 should i do it for a first bike/daily?

>>17387985
that's completely reasonable.

but
>abs

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>>17387835
That just makes me want to buy one even more as a first bike. Lord give me strength when Kit Kat calls me a fag for cafe'ing it

>>17387980
>Valve clearance
Mine has hydraulic lifters, so I believe it's pretty self-adjusting if I have my facts straight

>>17387995
I wanted to cafe the bike when I first got it, but after riding it for a little while I realized they're pretty decent to ride stock. throw some bar ends on the end, maybe a different seat and call it a day.

>>17387993
yea i want the abs model because it makes insurance so much cheaper. and kind of just need a cheap daily at the moment

Is financing a bike the same as financing a car, or are there some differences? ie - terms, rates, length etc

also, finance first bike or buy outright? I know this is largely dependent on person situations, but more curious as to what you anons did

>>17388016
>>17387993
wait im retarded they have a non abs that only makes it 30$ more a year and 200$ off the bike so should i just go non abs?

If you can't buy outright, don't get a bike.

Only time you should finance anything is if it's a house.

>>17388035
>Only time you should finance anything is if it's a house.
>how does credit rating work
ur dumb m8

>>17388029
go abs you sensational retard
don't let yourself get memed on /dbt/

>>17388035
I always spend all the money I have so financing is my only option.

>>17388029
>>17388016
meh, depends on personal preference. I have never used it. I personally think relying on safety nets diminishes from rider awareness.

>>17388025
financing is the same as in a car you just get shittier rates. I recommend buying a shitty bike for cash first then after you've dumped it and learned how to ride buy a nice bike

>>17388035
>can't afford 3% finance
wew lad

>>17388053
>talking about ABS of all things
>"I personally think relying on safety nets diminishes from rider awareness."
do you even know what ABS is
read up on ABS and rethink the bullshit you are posting here

>>17388035
>>17388048
>>17388057
I never finance. I hate debt and paying shit back. I intend to actually own a machine I buy, thanks.

>>17388065
maybe you need to learn how to threshold brake instead of relying on abs

>>17388066
so you plan on quitting your job and being unable to pay your rates
if that's not the case, the machine is essentially yours

>>17388043
>>17388053
>>17388057

Does financing affect insurance rates, beyond them just usually forcing you to get higher than minimum coverage?

>>17387389
Bought my first bike late last year. ('94 Yamaha XV1100)
I'm having some sort of fuel delivery issue (bogging and slight sputtering/hesitation at high rev open throttle) I think it's carbs. Any suggestions on what to do? Bike carbs intimidate the hell out of me. I have plans this summer but I can't do anything until I resolve this.
Could someone tell me if it's an adjustment or cleaning I need? Will seafoam help? I'm worried I'm gonna fuck it if I try to work on it and I can't afford shop right now, 'sides, I want to work on it and I don't trust shops.

>>17388043
You gain credit by using a credit card, paying it regularly, and holding a job long term.

Financing a TOY/Car/TV etc... is seen as debt, which reduces your credit.

>ur dumb m8

>>17388076
Not in my Germany at least
>>17388083
it's not debt
it's debt if you don't pay your rates
if you miss a rate for more than a month
that's debt
>>>>>>>ur dumb m8

>>17388080
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4RslpDRpOE

hello?

>>17388083
Also having a credit card with a high limit is bad for your credit score as well.

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>>17388029
Non ABS is better for learners.
The 300 is a fine choice for cities, country highways, and canyons. Easy to throw around, forgiving across the rev range. It's ideal for learning the basics of racing, too--with its tight cornering.
I'd bump up to a cbr500r if you're easily intimidated, though.
A top-speed of 85 makes these bitches #uncomfortable when staring down Barbara's suburban assault vehicle or Bubba's 2-ton penis pump. If you keep your head and watch surrounding traffic, you'll be fine.

>>17388076
you may be required to purchase gap insurance

>>17388076
Around here you have to get comprehensive coverage for the full new value of the bike. So the insurance would probably end up being equal to you financing payments every month.

>>17388103
>>17388106
yikes, might as well save up the few extra thousand than spend a shitload more insurance payments for 12 months.

>>17388076
no not at all.
>>17388083
lenders look at your entire history when lending.

if your only item is a mortgage, you get a shitty rate for an auto loan. Lenders want to see the ability to pay back money borrowed from a variety of sources, not just one line of credit. What you described is a thin file and it will fuck you over if you try to do anything else.

more lines of credit that are either satisfied or current with no late payments = better credit score

>>17388080
take them off the bike, take all the bits out, boil the carbs in one part lemon juice and 5 parts water for 20 minutes and then air dry quickly. then put it all back together. motorcycle carbs are extremely simple, and unless your gaskets are fucked you don't need a rebuild kit.

>>17388091
Do you owe money on it?

Then it's debt.

Even if you never miss a payment, it's still a large sum owing, that if you had no money to pay it, would be really bad for your credit score.

If you financed everything, you would have a horrible credit score. Since you would technically owe a bunch of money.

When you grow up and buy a house, you'll figure this out.

>>17388118
call a broker before you buy the bike and get a quote on insurance. If they ask your riding experience, lie and say you have been riding for 3 years, and if you are 18 you will get assfucked either way.

>>17388137
>If you financed everything, you would have a horrible credit score. Since you would technically owe a bunch of money.
this is so completely wrong that I don't even know where to start. you can borrow money for everything, but your credit score is based on how many lines of credit are on your bureau, your credit card utilization rate, and your credit history.

you can make jack shit for money and have 20 lines of credit, but if they are all in good standing and your revolving balance isn't to high you'll easily have over an 800. I see it every day.

t. someone who works in auto finance and looks at your credit all day.

>>17388143
>lie about experience

damn, this is the exact kind of thing I pride myself on thinking about doing. don't know why I hadn't.

I'm 22, which isn't much different from 18, I'd think. seems like 26/27+ is when you'd really see a big bump

>>17388075
What the fuck are you talking about? I always just save up and buy the bike completely. Financing costs way more in the long run and it's a constant stressor.

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Wohoo, happy riding times. Went 256 miles over yesterday and today, up to St. Croix State Park for camping. The ride was great, found a side road that parallels I35 the whole way up. I didn't see a dozen other cars the whole trip. Just clear roads and cute baby cows (and a disturbing number of dead skunks).
Found and cataloged a Blanding's Turtle (threatened species, only the 8th live report this year). The fire starters I brought along had apparently gone bad, which didn't bode well for cooking brats and baked beans. But when the chips are down, baiku saved the day. Used a few sheets of notebook paper to get some gas from her tank to start the fire.

>pic related, my totally not overloaded '82 CM250C baiku

Why don't you guys just play with the credit score slider that comes with every card now? Makes it easy to see good payments+high limit+low amount owed on rotating = good score
Good payments + low limit || maxed cards = Med score
Any combo of two = bad score
Been in their debt slavery system less than 4 years? Number doesn't matter. Nobody will lend to you for anything that's not a car.

Neither the bank nor insurance will believe you if you say you daily the bike. Be prepared for that.

>>17388196
You'll be fine at 22. It costs me 120 dollars a year to insure my fz6 while living in a city with a terrible driving record at 21.

Your full coverage is probably going to be like 250 a year. Bikes are cheap.

>>17388209
Those don't give you a full picture of score. You could religiously make payments your entire life and never miss one, but if you only have one card you'll never get above 730 ish

>>17388206
nice, sounds like fun

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>>17388206
Can't overload a Honda, brother.
Keep up the good work.

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>>17388216
Good point.
Reminder: accumulate periodic debt, to show the banks you're still gullible.

>this appears to be my fetish...ty Google images.

>>17388206
>overloaded honda
are you dropanons long lost american brother?

>>17386251
wot bike?

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Got to take a 959 Panigale for a demo ride today, was kinda disappointed. It felt very unstable in corners like it was wandering pretty hard during cornering, according to the salesman this is from the wacky monocoque frame that no on really likes. And I was relatively unimpressed with the power and torque, I expected the extra 40 HP and 30 ft/lbs of torque over my Daytona to be noticeable, but it was underwhelming. Also the heat on your ass is nearly unbearable.

On the plus side the quickshifter is cool as fuck, and it looks and sounds tits.

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Planning a trip to the dragon so I'm in the area witness the eclipse . Anyone else?

>>17388360
Black people don't tempt fate like that.

>>17388359
>like it was wandering pretty hard during cornering
I've heard reviewers talk about this with panigales and IIRC 44teeth said it was helpful when going really fast since it helped turn in, but was awkward and unstable at low speeds

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>>17387996
Buy the Chilton, and check the previous maintenance mark, then. "Pretty self adjusting" sounds like shop speak for "you're clearly carrying too much money."

>>17388137
fucking idiot
>>17388199
yeah if you do that it's fine
but no it's not "way" more. It's a bit more.
and that bit is ok if I don't have to save up, I don't have a couple thousand laying around at the end of each month
saving up for a bike (my bike costs about 7k new) would take a long time
rather pay for 3-4 years with 3% and have it immediately

>>17388344
Don't think so, but my great-grandma was quite the ho, so who knows.

>>17388359
>It felt very unstable in corners like it was wandering pretty hard during cornering,

tires cold?

>On the plus side the quickshifter is cool as fuck

isnt this just a gimmick for people who cant into clutchless shifting?

>>17388407
Nah, I thought so at first but we rode for like 45 minutes and it still felt like that at the end, and like I said I talked to some of the salesmen and it's a common problem.

Yes and no, a quickshifter will shift faster than any human can, because it shuts off ignition and all kinds of wacky shit, but unless you're a MotoGP rider it won't really make you any faster. But it's a fun kind of gimmick.

Can japanese bikes make good frisco choppers?

>>17388473
A cb750 will, old choppers where made of anything

>>17388467
>faster

yeah but how much faster than "really fucking fast" can you get? A clutchless shift is probably less than half a second, how much speed will you get out of those milliseconds where the throttle is closed compared to the ignition being cut off?

>>17388486
That's why I said it won't make a difference unless you're racing motoGP.

>>17386338
>>gotta clean the junction somehow

A piece of wire and a cup of acetone should work nicely.

Sludge is not a reason to discard brake lines, but corrosion can be. Check your master cylinder too of course. Brake fluid is hydroscopic and moisture fucks it up.

>>17388473
Go to chopper forums. This is not a chopper forum. Then refine what result you want and how much cash you have to get it.

Nearly all old CB750s are pretty thrashed but they are excellent engines.

Get a fucking clear title transferred to you before doing anything else. Be warned or cry.

Now go to Chop Cult. You'll thank me later.

Never use an Ironhead Sportster for a chop. OTOH Evo Sporties are excellent machines.

>>17388473

All bikers were riding Yamahas and Hondas with long forks and lowered seats in the 80s in europe

>>17386251
lucky for you guys I do speak weeb
日曜雑貨・カメラ
Sunday Sundries, Camera services
野田雑貨店
Noda General Store
おせんたくなら、ワンダフル・花王ソープレスソープ
Doing laundry? Use Wonderful brand peony-scented detergent!
生活用品
Daily Necessities

so on and so forth

the cb1100 EX is a stunning bike by the way, probably going to be my next bike if the yamaha xjr isn't around

>>17388035
Financing a bike:
Loan for value of bike (15 grand)
Interest
Full coverage on bike (more than the payments if it's a sportbike, especially a good one, as they are popular and for a damn good reason, but that means they're also popular with cantrides who crash a lot)

I think more people could be outright

>>17388510
>A piece of wire and a cup of acetone should work nicely.
That's what I was thinking, or even just leaving it to soak for a bit.

>Sludge is not a reason to discard brake lines, but corrosion can be.
Ok, a couple questions about this:
>how would I tell the difference between sludge and corrosion?
>If it's just sludge, can I get it out by bleeding the brakes?
>If I need to get into the lines to check, do the banjo fittings just pop off the ends of the lines or what?

To me a frisco chopper seems more sensible looking and ridable than other styles of chopper.

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>tfw no naked blackbird

>>17388552
dafuq is a frisco chopper

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I was thinking about getting this for my first bike what do you guys think\\https://tippecanoe.craigslist.org/mcy/6180791948.html

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>>17387674
With 10k on them the profile has to be worn down as hell. New Tires are expensive, but they are the only thing between you and the asphalt so I would care to have them in best shape.
Also, you can use your trip to wear them in.

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>>17388560
basically what you saw on easy rider

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>>17388525
I saw the coolest iron head chopper recently at a car show. This thing was the real deal

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>>17388560
They typically have high mounted tear drop gas tanks, long forks but not too much rake.

>>17386725
Pornography - the bike
I'm jelly

>>17387671
Doesn't scrambler mean off road bike?

>>17388123
Thanks. I'll give this a shot next week.

>>17388575
Nah those aren't frisco styled.

>>17388592
it means "off pavement" bike, usually used in desert racing, basically rally but with bikes, and living in a place with shitty roads while being sane enough to understand that you don't need ten feet of suspension travel to go over a washed out rut.

>>17388613
Thanks.

>>17388592
Maybe at one point, but now it means putting knobby tires and a few more inches of suspension travel on a street bike and pretending it can go off road while parked outside your local hipster coffee shop.

>>17388626
yeah and a defining characteristic is offroad tires, exhaust tape and pod filters are 100% optional until you crash on some rocks and punch holes in shit you're too poor/far away from the dealer to replace

no knobbies = not a fucking scrambler, period.

also common were:

>weight reduction, bro!
>fork boots because of all the dirts
>tucked in mirrors, crash cages around crashable parts
>bigger spoked wheels if you can get them on

the bikes are literally named for scramble races where you'd bolt across the unpaved hills as fast as you could using whatever you had

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>the original scramblers were fast for their day and you're not riding a real scrambler if your bike is slow
>bikes sold as "scramblers" aren't actually scramblers

>>17388563
My gut tells me if there isn't something big waiting to break, you might have a lot of small repairs to make on it as time goes on, but I guess that's true of any old bike. How mechanically savvy are you? Would you know all the things to look/listen for should you go see it?

Is craigslist the only place to get a used bike under $4k?

>>17388724
Depends what you're looking for. A dealership near me has a couple under $3k, but I can't remember if they're all sub-500cc or older than 2010, probably at least one of the two.

>>17388736
I'm pretty dead set on getting a 2003 or newer SV650N (I want fuel injection) but the 05' in yellow just fucking sold right before I had enough money to buy it :(

>>17388724
Also, Flea-bay motors, sort by "nearest first" and set a limit of $4k. But it sucks.

>>17388736
>>17388765
oh and dealerships near me (cleveland area) are shit and only carry cruisers and cbrs

So whats better honda cb or honda cx?

Also why are yamahas always so cheap compared to hondas?

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>>17388723
I'm a full time mechanic I've rebuilt a couple cars, so i guess I'm kinda savy in the sense

>>17388791
You'll be fine then. It's not even italian bike tier.

Good luck finding parts though. It's fucking hard, and I hope you're good at fabrication.

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>replaced spark plugs and coolant on R3
>new rear tire comes soon
>looking at super sports now
>bike paid off
>might by a used one of CL to wrench on and use R3 as commuter
>my old assistant manager bought a CBR600RR and then dropped it an hour later
>it's his first bike
>he financed it
>48 month at 12%
>he doesn't even have a license or permit yet

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>>17386725

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Saw this while picking up supplies today, how much of a faggot am I for actually wanting this? I've been wanting to pick up a 3/4 lately regardless, so I won't deny that I was a little tempted when I saw it but I held off.

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>>17386725
>>17388827
Post bikes by lakes.

>>17388833
3/4 is okay for trackdays in a car so yeah go for it

look like a podracer in your 1992 miata

>>17388833
Very big faggot, about as useful as those brain buckets that nogs wear

>>17388589
Those vibration on my balls definitely feel like porn

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>>17388833
Dang, I just realized there's a Boba Fett full-face they put out now too.

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>>17388853
>>17388833
>tfw I'll never own this

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>>17388853
They're alot nicer in person friend

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>>17388837
I miss y'all ;_;

>>17388833
>>17388853
>>17388860
I'd have to change a lot of habits before I dumped money on a graphic helmet. My helmet has all sorts of scrapes and dings just from setting it down on the top when working on stuff. Don't want to put it down on the base and end up with wet face pads.

>>17388862
And now the painful part...
>Regular RPHA 11 is ~$350
>Boba Fett RPHA 11 is >$500

How is that acceptable?

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>>17388862
I saw an HJC Venom helmet in person for the first time, they look fucking awesome.

>>17388879
Licensing is expensive as shit nigga.

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>>17388837

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Which sportbikes have the best headlights? As in, car-tier projection and illumination?

It doesn't seem like most have big round peepers these days

I had a viffer for a while and it was pretty good, turned night into day with the right bulbs

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>>17388837

>>17387853
>Beta XTrainer
I want one so bad.

>KLR650
>muh dual purpose
>muh 650 thumper torque
>muh gianormous fuel tank

What am I missing? Why does everyone not have one?

>>17389037
slow and pigfat

>>17389037
>fat
>slow

>>17389037
>worse in literally every way than the DR650 and XR650
>except that you can get a KLR for $1000

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>>17388818
A guy I knew bought a 600rr brand new from dealer ship rode it to stop light and doped it. Hes still in hospital.

Also hello fags I just finished installing shit.

>>17389037
I'm just not interested in a dual purpose. Don't intend to take it offroad any time soon. Also kind of tall for me.

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>>17389051
Should I get a KLR for smashing nevada desert?

>>17389062
that bike is fucking ugly

>>17389069
No get a DR or DRZ

>>17389062
>he doesn't use a motorcycle as his only transportation

>>17389069
No, get something better.

>>17389079
>>17389089
what bike buy

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>>17389069
knobbies on a GSXR

>falling for the tall suspension meme

>>17389092
DRZ400, WR450, XR650R, KTM 500.

>>17389097
I mean MV is already godbike on-off road. I just need something a bit worse for offroad so I can hone my skills.

>>17389092
GS500

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>>17389037
CB500x is (slightly) lighter. Better luggage options.
"Competent" used to be a benchmark, so people could focus on other concerns. Like actual fuel efficiency, reliability, aftermarket, or the price of replacement bits.

But yeah. More gas, moar torx.

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>>17389097
>falling for the knobbies meme

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>>17389062
>doped it (I assume this is a typo for "dropped")
>in hospital
must have been one hell of a drop

>>17389051
this is correct

>>17389069
xr650r is the classic desert smasher

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>>17389092
Honda 500 twin. Suzuki a shit.
Or the cbr300r, if you want to learn2fast.

>>17389132
>learn to fast
But I'm already fast u cuck

I guess I get XR650R at some point when I'm innadesert. MV F4 still stays around for twistysmashing tho

>>17389132
>the you need a slow bike to learn to corner meme

you only need a slow bike to not accidentaly highside like a retard

>>17389062
my drz is financed 27% 60 months :v)

>>17389141
XRR is good choice.
Kick start is so 1970 though.
Get a KTM 690 or 500 with daddy's money.

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>>17389159
Yeah. Learning to corner, not getting hospitalized the first time you make a mistake.

>>17389185
Just do it on a track. On the street, 300 or 600, you'll die anyways. You can always lowside into traffic trying to trail brake.

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>>17389069
You say that yet you have a dbt sticker and an ugly bike nice!
>>17389080
Its my only mode of transportation just motorcycles.
>>17389129
Hes a 300lb guy he took the hit more than the bike did.

>>17389207
Nothings as ugly as your shitheap

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>>17389178
Daddy trump doesn't pay me that much yet. soon(tm)
XR650 probably gonna do it tho

>>17389207
>calling the F4 ugly
I thought faggots were supposed to have good taste.

>>17389220
Dont project your life on to me bb.
>>17389221
the f4 literally looks like a power ranger prob bike. But then again if you didn't treat it like shit it wouldn't look like shit : ^ )

>>17389221
>that exhaust

just roast my nuts senpai

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>>17389200
(Still waiting for you to argue against your own first point...)

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>>17389244
The F4 looks like a majestic machine and sounds like sex.

I wish I could say the same about you, but that boipucci ain't worth shit.

>>17389252
It's comfy desu. sounds gud

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>>17389262
The f4 sounds like sex but looks like a power ranger space ship fag. The only thing good is the sound and swing arm.

>>17389255
let me break this done for you

if you keep your rossi shenanigans to the track (and actually learn to corner) you will highside, lowside, and probably do a front flip at one point regardless of engine displacement

you do not need a small bike to do that, and it doesn't help you either if you can't get up to real leanin' speeds before the next corner

small bikes are for paranoid street rossis who think they know how to corner because they rode crossed up without realizing it once and scrubbed their "chicken strips"

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>>17389273
>t. needs facial reconstructive surgery
Your bike gets you nothing. My bike got me the best boipucci in dbt.

I think that says all that needs to be said.

>Arguing over which sportbike looks more like a kamen rider prop

They all look like that

>>17389287
post boipucci

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>>17389282
My bike doesn't attract guys just girls unlike you fag lord. But I guess thats what dbt wants is ugly boiz masturbating over there bikes. Also stop playing like your one night stand with repsol anon makes u a god : ^ )

>>17389294
>m-my bike attracts girls
but they don't want gay guys and u look like a 12 year old mexican so gay guys don't want u either.

>one night stand
I mean if three times a week is a one night stand then yeah I guess.

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>>17389293

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>>17389305
Nah senpai ive been doing great I just laugh you post the same pictures with your bf and with the same insults. Stay the same forever dbt I fucking love it.

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Almost died today. Was going a tad too fast on a downhill corner..Pulled on my brakes but I went into the other lane..I wonder if I should cornered instead. How are my tires for cornering?

>>17389330
>same pictures
That's because my bf is far away now ;_;

MV Anon goes back to Chicago for a bit soon(tm)

>>17389334
I think you'd scrape something and lever your bike off the ground far before you hit the end of those car tires, and that would be at lean angles gentler than what most sportbike squids hit on freeways

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>>17389345
sucks for you bb. Was invited by keeno to go to tail but kinda short notice for me. But I just find it entertaining the fags on here give me shit about my bike but in real life people love it and always ask about it. Weird world huh?

>>17389361
That's because people on here have better bikes than you.

>>17389361
m8 I'm willing to bet you people like my bike way more than a cbr250. It usually has a bunch of people asking about it at meets. You also live in a Mexican shithole.

TX fucking sucks by the way. AETC bases are also garbage. I can't wait to get to fucking vegas.

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>>17389350
Is that because of the tires?

>>17389361
people in real life are retards and/or non-bikers who don't know the difference between a CBR250R and a CBR1000RR. Anything with fairings is a crotch rocket to them

>>17389378
He lives in HI, is that Mexican? Also he has like 4 bikes, not just the cbr

>>17389384
His dad has 4 bikes. He has a CBR.

>Is HI mexican?
They're basically flips, so yeah.

>>17389350
>lean angles
>freeways
those two things do not go together, maybe that is why sportbike squids always have 2 inch wide chicken strips though.

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>>17389376
B-but people with ducatis and ktms liked it!
>stock liter bikes
yah sooo much better of a bike!
>>17389378
That maybe true but I guess having popular bike doesn't make you any less of a dick c: If you consider Hawaii a shit hole you might want to tell the billionaires who live here that. Also ever did the cross state dula sport stuff ive been thinking about doing some when ever I get out there.

>>17389387
My dad crashed is zx-10r doing turn in the rain on the mountain so his bike is getting fixed. The ktm and cbr are what I take care of and ride. I just sold the grom I had.

>>17389404
Liter bikes are better tho.

>calling me a dick
>implying I haven't always been a dick
Life's more fun when you're a nigger to everyone.
>Billionaires having taste
Those are the faggots that buy Aventadors and I8s. Money can't buy taste.

>>17389404
I own a KTM, do i now have superior opinions too?

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>>17389420
Actually I just think you have bad taste. Atleast you know you are a dick. The last person I met that was a dick made me $200 a night and knew he was one but hey atleast money.
>>17389421
According to the last anons opinion yes. If you have a better bike you must have better opinions!

>>17389404
>a literbike isn't better than a cheap 250 learner bike
You can't seriously be this retarded can you?

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>>17389445
Im just saying a stock liter bike isnt the top bike for gods. Id say if you own a 100k+ supersport you might be able to brag about the best.

>>17389435
>F4
>bad taste
nah m8, just not a beaner.

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>>17389464
bro you have okay taste in bikes buy you have shit taste in land. Is what I am saying nigger.

>>17389334
yah, lean more. Worse that can happen is low-side, which is better than highside, collision, running off the road.

>>17389463
>>17389463
Can you get a litre bike to free spin its tire while you are already travelling like 40 mph ??

>>17389463
A new litre peter is better than literally everyone on dbt's bikes because literally no one on dbt owns a 2017 litre peter and they are lighter, more powerful and have more fancy electronic witchcraft than bikes from previous years.

>>17389478
>HI
>good taste in land
It's a great place to vacation and a shit place to live. Enjoy your methheads sub-flip.

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>>17389028
What's stopping you from being as awesome as me?

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>>17389481
Yes
>>17389485
DbT is old news top shit I just enjoy the tier system of it. I love my bikes so idc who says shit anyway. Its like oh look he has a 16 krt!

>>17389419
So, all of the bikes are your dad's?

>>17389493
you do know land value has never gone down here right? If you arent a poor fag you can do great shit living out here. Atleast its not fucking new york.

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>get bike dyno tuned
>power and eco tunes, four maps in total
>$875
>they installed a map switch but "couldn't get the switch working"
>two months later, want my fucking eco map
>take it apart
>they connected the wires to the wrong two pins of a three pin switch
Their tune is great but come on what the fuck.

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Posting my baiku
She can't corner and needs constant maintenace but I love her

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>>17389506
I own the ktm now and have the cbr. Because I sold the grom and made money on it woooo.

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>>17389497
How many hours have you got on the xtrainer now?
havent seen you around pretty much since you got it

>>17389514
>muh land value
Buying and selling land is a shitty investment and land value means fuckall. Your dinky little island has billion dollar houses used as summer homes, methheads, fishfuckers, and your weird native species of sub-flips.

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>>17389517
Bro, why are you so cucked that you're paying that much for tuning?!

>>17386984
thats fucked

I'm 22 and full comprehensive is only 660 a year for a gsxr1000

>>17389544
It sound like you got beat up by a local guy and had your bp hurt. I am sorry about that.
>free money from rich white people
Its been fine so far I just want more dirtbike shit to do like cross country shit would be neat to do.

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>>17389529
I think it's at 27 hours and 960km, + a bit for the one time the CR2032 battery in the dash died and I rode the bike anyway.

Things that broke so far...
The horn bracket

Life gets in the way... got a trip planned to West Virginia in July.. gotta build a motor for the guy I sold the Husaberg to, in exchange, free trip to WV.

>>17389557
Nah I just think islands are dumb.

>can't visit various climates of the US
>will never get to meme with all the bros in the US

>>17389517
>$900 for a remap/tune
>$40 for a jet kit for a carb
Hmmmmmm really makes me think