[ D a i l y B i k e T h r e a d ] - /dbt/

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>tfw got another
n+1 is a disease as much as it is a formula

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>>17284145
HOW TO RIDE MOTORCYCLES

1. At the rise of the hand by Policeman, stop rapidly. Do not pass him by or otherwise disrespect him.

2. When a passenger of the foot, hooves in sight, tootle the horn trumpet melodiously at first. If he still obstacles your passage, tootle him with vigor and express by word of mouth, warning Hi, Hi.

3. Beware of the wandering horse that he shall not take fright as you pass him. Do not explode the exhaust box at him. Go smoothingly by.

4. Give big space to the festive dog that makes sport in roadway. Avoid entanglement of dog with wheel spokes.

5. Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon. Press the brake foot as you roll around the corner, and save the collapse and tie up.

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>>17284152

One more XR650r bike and you'll effectively have a combo going.

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KTM

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I went up some twisties for the first time. Was shitting myself most of the way. Scrapped pegs a few times. But as we go higher and it got cooler, became a nice experience.

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>>17284183
i have three of the same suit at least, and one kawi and one zuke outlier

>>17284202
Why buy three of the same bike?

>>17284202
4...
3 is how many testicles i have

>>17284204
one basket case 650r with a decent engine, one good 650r with a bum engine and the other one is a 400r

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>>17284202

>>17284197
>kuckTM
>Made in india

Ayy Lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>17284204

One is a XR400r, the other two are 650r. Them the AT. Then the DR650. Then the kid Kawi bike.

He's not even mentioning all of the bikes laying around who's titles were lost in boating accidents.

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>>17284225
well... uhhh... you too pal

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>200+ rider forest excursion
>4 hours in, minor scuffle with some twat that Leroy Jenkins'd me down a 70 degree/20 meter decline
>No broken bones, brakes all work, no levers broken
>Slap Leroys helmet three fucking times for being a massive twat
>2 minutes later going ham on some whoopdees about to shift 4th
>Suddenly wake up with rear scrubbing as much skin off my arm as possible, still putting away
>WhatTheFuckHappened
>Nose bleeding, pounding headache
>Can barely walk, right leg dislocated
>Backtrack my track to see what the fuck I hit, was it a deer or a pig? Jesus?
>Treadmarks just flat out backtothefuture'd the lip of the jump and reappeared 15m ahead starting with an imprint of my helmet

Turns out that Leroy faggot snapped the cable retainer on my forks and it wrapped itself around my wheel at full depression on the whoopdee.

Goddamnit man, always check every nut, bolt and retainer after the smallest spill.

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>>17284197

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>>17284231
quiet you, those were tragic voyages.

>>17284217
why not?

>>17284236
>being so slow that leeroy can catch you in the first place
you only have yourself to blame anon.

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>>17284248
Noone else wanted to go first, so I did. Fool is me, fool is me.

It was about 25 minutes before anyone else caught me up, too, sitting there like a retard on bath salts.

>>17284269
seriously though that sucks anon, you the guy that was going on his first big offroad ride with people?
I remember reassuring you and saying she will be all good m8 and now i feel bad.

yo so when is the TT
has it happened yet or is it right at the end of May

>>17284289
post boipucci

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>>17284278
Naw, must be some other excited adventurer.

At least now I can justify that braided front line and rebuild kit I've been putting off.

>>17284297
what bike?
trying to figure out who im talking to now lol

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>>17284237
I live in the city nigga. beside I'm not use to a motorcycle. but a scooter I can do shit on

>>17284315
fuck off nobiek cuck

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>>17284305
I very rarely post in these bike threads.

XR400.

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Need for a short daily commute on a sports bike:
>Gloves
>Boots
>Jeans

>>17284315
>i live in the city
Why don't you leave the city one day and go for a ride thats more than just a commute through traffic?

btw im just memeing when i point out brrk brrk strips. you can get rid of them doing some slalom at 20kmh if you really care.

>>17284329
depends on your budget

>>17284329
Any Advice?

>>17284326
fair enough.
not like dbt has quality content lately can't blame you for not posting much.

>>17284339
Nigger are you expecting answers within a minute, because if so kill yourself

>>17284329
Like 100-200 Canadian :/

>>17284342
This, dbt is not /b/.
there are like 30-50 of us, give us some time to care about your post damn.

>>17284342
Literally just asking for any recommendations

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>>17284341
I'm not overly fond of /o/'s tripfaggotry either, I know this is 4chan but goddamn.

>>17284352
My recommendation: nothing and go off a cliff at full speed, impatient fuck.

>>17284344
is that total or per item?
i just bought (in USD):
>used Icon Compound Jacket for 180 that was 260 new
>used Icon Overlord Long Glove for 100 that were 150 new
because i found them on craigslist in my size. bang for your buck will definitely be used, if you can wait. if you buy new, you can choose what you get and you can get it fast, but on a budget you're going to have to cut corners. what bike? presumably no riding experience if you're getting your first set of gear?

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>>17284326
Hello xr bro

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>>17284323
did you see the bike with the box? although I like scooters alot they are pretty fun to cuck people on

>>17284331
I don't care it's annoying that some people actually think you have skill on a bike. I'm only 19 and I have to ride 2-3 hours to get out. my best bet is finding an abandoned parking lot. the most I rode at once was just one hour and 30-50 miles

>>17284199
Where's this at fellow cruiser rider

>>17284152
That's hot. I'm really hoping I can find a nice XR/XL600 or XT600. fuuuark
>>17284204
>Why buy three of the same bike?
Not that uncommon I've found. Different riding setups, backups, or just to take parts from.

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>>17284369
>>17284326

this an official XR thread now?

>>17284374
join up local FB riding groups, a lot of guys post shit there before CL so you can try to get dibs on anything coming up

>>17284369
Brofist.

What's the deal with that XRsonly webshop, any experience?

Aftermarket is almost nonexistant in NZ, let alone OEM. That, that and the fact that it turns out my 97 400 is a bastard child in many respects. 4 weeks and $120NZD for a fucking gear level from Honda.

>>17284387
where is this? looks great

>>17284199
Central CA, up near the Sierra Nat. Forest.

>>17284371
Chicken strips arent a test of skill, they are like a test of how big your balls are.
otherwise they would be called skill strips.

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>>17284415
moab utah

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>>17284422
beautiful

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>>17284387
Hell yeah it is
>>17284396
The only thing I have aftermarket on my bike is an fmf pipe. I am looking to buy a mikuni pumper carb in the near future though. I have a friend that bought a street legalization kit from them and he said that it took a few weeks for his package to arrive but besides that he said that all the parts did their job well

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>>17284419
Just because I can slide the ass out of my TLs, doesn't mean I'm a skilled rider.

I've never understood the infantile dickmeasuring by comparing virgin treadwalls.

>>17284439
Because generally if someone does have chicken strips they couldnt remove them if they were being chased down by a serial killer.

>>17284145
All electrics are dead on my bike
I've checked the fuses and they all seem fine
What would be the next thing to check?

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I don't think I'll ever get over seeing things like this.
Humans really do some magical stuff.

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>>17284419
oh well. once I learn how to use a manual properly. I'm not good at getting the bike moving on a red light some times or I even switch to neutral instead of second by accident. what to do?

>>17284443
does the bike turn over or is it just electronics? It could be your stator

>>17284443
The battery......
if your bike has an alarm system it is always draining the battery and over how ever many years it has completely fucked it.
Get a new battery.

>>17284437
>Pumper
That's exactly what I'm looking for. I've never seen a TRX here to nick a carb from.
I've only done gordons mods thus far, stock most everything. If it ain't broke don't fix it, etc. That's why these things are tractors, albeit marginally faster but just as nimble.

I'd just need to make it worth the shipping costs without blowing the weight/volume allowances out the door.

>>17284449
Practice standing starts.
I have been riding bikes since i was 4 years old so asking me for advice on how to learn things really does not work, ive always known how to do it so im going to expect the same of you.

just how it is.

>>17284442
I've ridden a few bikes that are lean angle limited by the frame, it's a case by case basis before you bring the 'take it to the track' mantra into consideration.

>>17284442
just ram the back wheel lol. or shoot him

>>17284329
So let me get this straight. You have a budget of under 200 US dollars, and you expect to be able to get all of those? Get real bud.

>>17284451
>>17284452
Battery is full. I can make it crank by shorting out 2 terminals but it wont start since no power to the ignition. I'm talking no power to the bike at all.

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>superior yuropeeon motorcyclist

>>17284457
my dad got me a Yamaha 50cc at age 2 with training wheels but I had to move to the USA :(

>>17284449
Left foot on ground, bike in 1st gear with clutch in. Right foot on the rear brake. Any stop-start should be this.

If you get false neutrals a lot, try adjusting the gear lever or be more confident in your shifting strength. Usually if you've not completely unloaded the tranny load you'll get neutral despite having a constant mesh gearbox. Don't force it into gear, but don't be a pussy, either.

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>>17284458
The only bikes i know of like that are cruisers and even then most cruisers have smaller chicken strips than most sports bikes.

Really its just a case of who breaks the speed limit...

It is insanely easy to use 100% of your tyre over 150kmhm, even a slight bend has you leaning all the way until you are scraping pegs.

It is also really easy to see when someone does this because their tyre literally melts at those speeds.

pic related is a tyre that was used at low speeds (mainly below 150kmh) which is why it did not melt, i am sure you have seen plenty of tyres with bits hanging off the sides for comparison.

>>17284464
Take a current reader and find the short then

>>17284472
My dad wouldnt let me ride my peewee 50 until i could ride my pushbike without training wheels, no training weels allowed on a motorbike and all that.

>>17284468
>>17284479
what did he mean by this?

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>>17284487
Lucky, my dad pretty much told me to stop crying and get on my PW50.
Launched it into a fence but he grabbed me before impact, put me straight back on.

>>17284475
I've been told to put your right foot down. but you it seems better with your left now that I see it. and yeah I think the biggest issue I have might be my shoes their a inch bigger than my toes and I hit the edge of the shoe with the shift without much leverage

>>17284490
Brits are a joke. Have you seen that show? I know they're not know for good television. But it's just bad

>>17284495
pretty cool I don't remember much on my bike but I knew my step brother helped me out. all I could do was go up and come back. I think my dad wanted me to be a pro Enduro racer or something

>>17284497
Top Gear?

>>17284495
First time i rode my KTM 50sx my dad said to me "now remember it has a power band nothing like your old bike you have to be gentle with the throttle" i then proceeded to give it full juice, hit the power band and ran straight into a concrete water tank and started to cry because i broke the visor on my cool new helmet.

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>>17284496
The only way I can see right foot down being the smarter move is on a flat so you can sit in neutral, not just clutch pulled in. Personal preference I guess, but unless you're on an off-camber road I'd suggest right foot on brake for hillstarts.

Take a bit of practice rolling on the throttle while simultaneously releasing the front brake if you're on a hill using your right foot to stay shiny side up.

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>>17284505
Ah, the old man just wanted something to share passion with his son. Can't fault him for that. Except you know, selling it and buying me an XR80 just as I got the hang of balance at the ripe old age of 5.
>>17284518
Same deal with the XR80 above. Gears and clutch meant sausage to me. Gave it tits and dumped the clutch, bike flew out faster than I could blink.
>His face when

>>17284209
Are any registered? Do you just move the plates over if you want to ride one of the unregistered ones on the road?

I have two bikes and two cars but all the bullshit fees are killing me.

Which is the helmet with the most noise reduction on the market right now?

My dad is complaining a lot about the noise at higher speeds (he has quite sensitive ears) and wants to get something better than his HJC FG 17

>>17284543
Get earplugs, way more effective.

>>17284553
Already uses em, not enough yet.
He wants maximum noise reduction, aside from amputating his ears basically.

>>17284543
Well, Schuberth C3 is probably the quietest... But it's like $1000. Just get some ear plugs. They'll work better anyways.

>>17284553
This.
Even get those bloody ripoff musician ones that do a flat db reduction through most of the range if need be.

>>17284555
Alright, he's gonna need a goldwing, 2 wheels, a roof, and some Windows. Maybe some doors and seatbelts too.

>>17284555
VW Phaeton is his only option.

>>17284518
I saw the new one in person it looks pretty cool in comparison to the competition
>>17284520
thanks mate I'll practice tomorrow
>>17284532
Yeah probably, my dad use to do competitive hill climbs and Enduro back in the day. he taped his wedding video over his hill climb comp.

>>17284553
Got a question about earplugs. Should I get a bluetooth headset for my helmet could I still hear music through them?

>>17284565
>>17284571
Neither a Goldwing nor a Phaeton is a helmet.

>>17284574
only if it's cheap. I hate how they go for $200

>>17284574
everything I've heard so far indicates that yes, you can still hear senas with earplugs.

personally, I'm thinking of getting some foam tips for my earbuds or something. I've only tried foam IEMs once, but damn that was the most noise reduction i've ever heard from an earbud.

>>17284577
And nothing else will help your sissy dad if earplugs still hurt his ears.

>>17284612
I've got earplugs where I plug my earbuds in. I can listen to my music on a low level, while riding 160km/h on the highway even though I'm half deaf.

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My dad is considering getting a '99 Ducati 900, thoughts?

He has a KH500 right now.

>>17284639
advise him to get it, he'll never ride it and you'll get a nice ducati when he realises this

>>17284593
I'm aiming for something cheap and stealthy, legally I cant have one due to license restrictions so no big control unit cancer on the helmet

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>>17284639
He has had a YZF600R Thundercat in the past. Totalled by a car that pulled out in front of him.

>>17284648
Schubert C3 has a com unit collar.

>>17284464
Check schematic in your service manual and find out where the power ceases by testing. I use voltmeters and cheap incandescent test lights (incandescent bulbs are loads). Trace power to fuse box then from it to each system.

Also use brand and preferably model-specific forums and always post details because not all motorcycles are the same.

>>17284781
Ended up being the recifier, dead short on the diode. At least it is a simple fix, just need to find a reliable one that fits ok

How long should I wait for my engine to cool down before i install my new spark plugs?

>>17284814
Until you can touch the block no problem.

>>17284815
It's Aluminium though, I don't know How different the metal expansion will be Then

Also, 20 nm should be enough torque for NGK D8EA plugs, right?

>>17284820
I have no experience with aluminum blocks. I've always just let it rest about the same time as doing an oil change.

And for torque all my NGK ones said to screw it down then 1/8th turn to tighten it. Not that I'd have room to fit a torque wrench in there anyway.

>>17284826
I thought for an oil change the bike should be as warm as possible, and plugs as cold

Ah fuck it, i'll just Freestyle it

>>17284828
>>17284826
I just Hope the new plugs will straighten out my cold Start problems

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just had another look at the photos we took the other day - i know i'm not there yet but should i be worried about my muffler scraping the ground if i lean further? I'm 1 butt cheek off the seat in the pic with my knee out as far as was comfortable in my leathers and it looks like the muffler is closer to the ground than my knee slider? thoughts?

>>17284885
s-saved

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2 years now.

>>17284900
I chuckled

>>17284900
I think I got my bike 2 weeks after this happened. Time really flies

>>17284814
I normally replace the plugs before riding.
Entire maintenance when cold, then a short ride to heat the oil a bit and then change that.

Kust wait fornlike 30-60 minutes and it should be safe.

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>>17284894
y-you too
thoughts on muffler though?! should i be hanging off more to bring my knee closer to the ground?

>>17284885
>>17284918
it's pretty damn close to as far as you would wanna lean it i'd say. if you want you could just try manually leaning the bike over and looking at what touches first. without the feelers my bike touches the exhaust before the pegs so i put a knee down at big leans so i know how much room i have more than any other reason, and it feels pretty fun
get your body/ knee over a bit more just to act as a gauge for how much ground clearance you have left, but you need to be consistent
just be careful when it inevitably does scrape something

Any of you know any classic leather jackets where the back protector reaches the lower lumbar / sacral region?

Hey lads I'm 6'1 230 pounds (/fit/izen not fat). Would a klr 650 be a good first bike? I've never posted here so feel free to tell me to fuck off if I shouldn't have asked this.

>>17285048
yes, good choice

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>>17284145
How bad would an Iron 883 be on a rather dense city with real shitty roads?
vs say a ducati scrambler or an XSR 900

these are the only 3 non utter shit bikes on the secondhand market where im from right now, and im having trouble deciding which to get, i intend to use it as a daily but i have a decent car just incase.

im looking for comfort = performance since i intend to daily it and my brother has a f800r that i get to borrow pretty much whenever since he rarely uses it

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It`s time to post your bikes. Your bikes will not post themselves.

>>17285053
883 has no suspension. It will shake out all your shit.

>>17285064
I get that the Vstrom is comfy, but can it go fast?

>>17285053
The 883 will be significantly worse just because of the short suspension. None of them are really great city bikes but the xsr would probably be the best

>>17285053
>shitty retro fashion acessories are the only non-shit bikes

Yeah right

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Just crashed it last night. Got a few bruises but feel bad for scratching up the bike that I loved so much :(
Nothing that can't be repaired though.

>>17285073
Yes, it is so very ass friendly and windproof is great. If you want go fast buy 1000 or something else.

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in these worthless shitstains do you have to wear the seatbelts if you have an helmet on?

>>17285086
How is it in the city (filtering)? Is it good as an old-man bike?

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>>17285064

If any of you get near Velbert, Germany:

Hit up the Fellerstraße 4. An amazing piece of road with slow and fast turns and impeccable pavement.

Very little traffic as well, a hidden gem.

Your dream bike?

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>>17285098
JUST

>>17285085
Post pics

>>17285104
I'm sure there's great roads near berlin as well

>>17285104
You can chrash at my place and we can ride it together.
I'm a bit more north west though.

>>17285094
It has adequate handling for that. Perfect bike for those who have nowhere to rush.

>>17285084
i live not in the us
boy if i wanted to ride a 125cc moped that drugdealers use i wouldnt be on here asking . these are the only options
>>17285069
is the weight really untolerable or is it countered by the low seat height?

>>17285094
i met a dude in his late 60s that got divorced and his wife took all of his money

he dailies that bike apparently

id say yes

>>17285048
>>17285051
what about the xr and the dr650?

>>17285149
what if im black

>>17285154
any 650~ish 2 cylinder bike is a great beginner.

The rest is just down to ergonomics and personal preference.

>>17285155
Then you'll fit in with my city.

>>17285153
where do you live then
like 10% of dbt is american

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch7UyEwFL5Q&ab_channel=DVDPlus

>>17285169
happening at 2:30

>>17285159
Thanks

>>17285155
Fantastic

>>17285167
the Philippines
poorly built roads and even worse traffic plus its hot all the time

>>17285162
Fantastic.

Quoted the wrong post

do any of you guys have driving lights on your bikes? I'm tempted to get some so I can go night riding without worrying too much about hitting a deer or something.

>>17285193
No, all of us ride track bikes without headlights.

>>17285193
Nah, I just use my cat like reflexes and cat vision to see at night.

>>17285193
I use echolocation to find my way in the dark.

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>>17285064

>>17285189
To not even get started about the people there.

>>17285094
An example of how I roll. DL650 looks big and clumsy, but you can ride it almost like usual street bike
>>17285193
When I had cruiser I was forced to add some lights, because its single low placed headlight wasn`t so effective

>>17285197
>>17285205
>>17285206
I asked about driving lights, not headlights.

>>17285236
yeah i'm worried that the stock headlight won't be adequate for night riding. any advice you can give?

>>17285243
The fuck are driving lights?

>>17285247
dumbass shoo shoo

>>17285247
how the fuck do you not know what driving lights are?

>>17285250
I'm not the idiot asking if it's a good idea to literally blind people at night by attaching fucktons of LEDs to my bike when I have a perfectly fine headlight.
Plus you need to realize that deer, when they hop on the road, will fuck off before you hit them -- unless you're blinding them, in which case they'll freeze and not fuck off.

>>17285243
The fuck are driving lights, you mong?

>>17285257
shoo shoo

>>17285257
you're fucking retarded. you treat them like highbeam. Have you ever seen a car with driving lights? I basically want something like that, except maybe toned down a bit.

>>17285261
aftermarket LED lights.

>>17285281
Then why don't you just switch to high beams you retard?

>>17285284
STOP CALLING ME THAT I WONT PUT UP WITH IT

>>17285289
That's some nice retard rage you've got going there.

>>17285284
because it's better for long distance rather than width, which is what I need.
like why do you think people get driving lights? because the stock ones aren't good enough.

>>17285289
fuck off

>>17285291
I AM NOT A RETARD FUCK YOU

>>17285296
WHY IS EVERYONE BULLYING ME

FUCK YOU

>>17285296
Maybe your lights are fine and your eyes are shit.
The stock lights on any road legal vehicle are perfectly fine. If your beam is wider, sure, you can see further across fields. How does that help you, exactly? You'll make animals panic, possibly making those that wouldn't have moved in the first place run across the road (where they freeze because whoops, they're suddenly in the open being blinded), plus you can't accurately predict animal behaviour over a long distance. As in, if you see a deer 100 yards from the road and it starts to dash towards the road, you can't assume it won't stop before actually getting in your way.
In any case, I think it's pretty retarded.

What soap/conditioner do people use for cleaning their gloves? Most leather stuff is meant for shoes/boots/upholstery and leaves a slippery residue.

>>17285324
Rainwater and riding at 150 mph.

>>17285303
or maybe my lights are adequate but I want them to be better. isn't one of the biggest parts of being a motorbike rider making it as safe for yourself as possible. That's what I'm trying to do, but you're calling me retarded because you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
with a wider beam you can see the animals from much further away, which gives you a lot more time to react to them and slow down. If you can spot a dear from 100 yards away, going at 100km/h, that gives you like 3.5 seconds to react to it. that is more than enough to slow down to a safe speed and to scare it off. and besides, with a good driving like it'd be more like 300 yards, not 100.

>>17285333
Get your eyes checked before installing lights bright enough to blind the sun.

>>17285340
>eyes checked
>hmm your night vision seems pretty bad you should probably get some better lights

>>17285343
>your night vision is shit
>better stop operating vehicles a night

Putting bright lights on will only blind other people, making it more dangerous for other people.

>>17285340
why? there are two outcomes. either my eyes are fucked and i'll need a stronger light for night riding, or my eyes aren't fucked and my headlight is.
either way I'm gonna be putting driving lights on my bike.

>>17285348
how the fuck will it blind other people if I turn them off when near others? are you fucking retarded? i mean holy shit dude.

>>17285343
>>17285349
Where the fuck do you live were doctors advice you to endanger others?

>>17285333
More light != safer.
>with a wider beam you can see the animals from much further away, which gives you a lot more time to react to them and slow down
1) Your attention should be on the road and objects near it, not somewhere 200 m to the side. You can't process that much information adequately. You risk glancing over close dangers by concentrating on faraway objects, increasing your chances of crashing.
2) If you do spot animals 10 seconds in advance you can't be sure what they'll do. They may or may not notice you, they may or may not run towards the road, they may or may not jump onto the road. If you notice them 300 m from the road, do you slow down to a crawl? Fuck no. If you focus your attention on the faraway group of animals in case they jump out in front of you, you divert attention from other, previously unseen threats (see point 1). Plus you might spot them from far away, classify them as a non-threat because they're just grazing (they haven't noticed you yet), then be surprised when they suddenly DO jump onto the road because they were startled.
3) With really bright lights oncoming vehicles will have a hard time estimating your speed, distance and location. People might pull out on you thinking you're way farther away. They might drift into your lane distracted by the bright light and smash into you, smash into each other, or run off the road. With a wider beam, the chance of blinding vehicles that aren't straight ahead but off to the side increase.

>>17285354
>how the fuck will it blind other people if I turn them off when near others?
Because you won't see those others until they are already blinded because you're blind as a fucking eyeless bat.

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>>17285303
>any road legal vehicle
>fine
My single HID conversion on my bike vs perfectly road legal car. You were saying?

>>17285360
You can actually see further with your car, with a more focused beam.

>>17285360
Wow, so you have more light in the near field (20 m in front of you). Big whoop. Protip: If you are going any faster than walking speed, anything that jumps into that area is going to be too close to react in any case.
>pink gauge lighting
>GS 500
Opinion discarded

>>17285357
louder exhaust != safer, but that's parroted by everyone
>1)
what is peripheral vision. the thing about driving is that you don't look at the same spot constantly or focus on anything. you scan the road, always being aware of your surroundings and what's coming up on the road. with driving lights you can see what's coming up a lot further away and be a lot more aware of your surroundings.

>2)
if you notice them 10 seconds in advance, they'll notice you sooner as well. and in that time, they'll either cross the road, or run away from it. every time. and, no, you don't slow down to a crawl. say you're doing 100, you'd slow down to 80 or something. again, you don't focus on something, you see it, acknowledge it, and determine whether it's a threat or not. fuck have you never been riding in the countryside before or something? jesus christ.

>3)
oncoming vehicles will see my lowbeam. because you turn off highbeam and driving lights when there is an oncoming vehicle. like how do you not get this. you don't leave your driving lights or highbeam on when there's someone coming the other way. do they not teach you that in whatever shithole country you're from?

>>17285358
see response to point 3

cut out your points because i went over the character limit.

why are insurance companies such fucking jew cunts fuck off with your shite site then bump up the price fuck sake

>>17285398
Well go ahead and get as many lights as you want. Be sure to keep us posted when your bike is deemed unsafe and taken from you, or you crash into a deer.

>>17285398
>louder exhaust != safer,
I'm not sure that this is actually true. All we really have to go on are people saying "well the noise is BEHIND you and anyway it just annoys drivers" vs "dude I just got a new way louder exhaust/bike and people get out of my way a lot more now/when I drive I can totally hear loud-piped bikes when they're behind me"

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Do you guys use bluetooth intercoms?

I'd like to listen to some music while riding, what do you use/recommend?

>>17285411
Your engine is the only music you need.

>>17285228
i know right?
worst of the worst are motorcycles though
not the rich midlife crisis doctor on a BMW/ducati though .
the other 99% of motorists on fukcing mopeds

>>17285414
No, my engine is the base-drone, but yeah, I need that, too.

However I like to listen to audiobooks and music when travelling, so it's be nice to be able to do so on my bike, too.

>>17285403
why would it make it more unsafe? im increasing my visibility.

>>17285398
>do they not teach you that in whatever shithole country you're from?
Yeah they do, my "shithole" also doesn't advice people to out more blinding lights on their vehicles if they're too blind to ride.
With how blind you are, you won't turn them off untill after you've blinded people. You also don't know people are coming, because your lights are brighter than anything else on the road.

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>>17285411
>tfw nobody to talk to
I use headphones to either my phone or music player.

>>17285418
The fact that you ARE visible does not mean that your position, speed, size and distance can be more accurately estimated. A close, very bright bike might be mistaken for a faraway truck. In fact, you might be mistaken for some other stationary object. In any case, you are endangering yourself.
Furthermore, you are a distraction at best, or blinding people at worst, meaning they won't see other, less bright threats and get into accidents as a consequence.

>>17285425
How do you fit headphones inside your helmet?

Or you mean earbuds or IEMs?

>>17285417
Your choice. IMO the cost and often lackluster audio quality aren't worth the reduction in awareness.

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>>17285425

>>17285428
He has a Beats Helmet by Dr. Dre.

>>17285432
>Beats Helmet
Fuck you for making me google this.
And fuck google for showing me this actually exists.

Fuck.

>>17285430
I can't hear anything over the wind anyway, so I have ear protection with music in.
Use my mirrors and eyes for my surroundings.

>>17285428
Yes.

>>17285430
Yeah, audio quality is the reason why I'm asking you guys. I can see these pad-like speakers they come with, are these _any_ good?

>>17285435
>this actually exists.
What the fuck, I was just joking.

>>17285442
I don't know if your country has it, but I have molded ear plugs my earbuds plug into. Any earbud (in ear style) fit into them, so you get protection and a decent sounds quality.

>>17285435
>this actually exists.
Source?

>>17285437
Ear protection? Good idea. Music? Not so much.
If you only ride on the touge and backroads, or maybe on the highway: fair enough, you won't really have sirens approaching you. When riding through cities though it does happen that you're sitting in traffic and an ambulance or cop is coming up from behind with the sirens on to filter through. I blocked a fire truck once because I couldn't hear it (earpro and singing to myself at the stoplights), and since I was keeping my eyes on the lights I only saw it after like 10 seconds when I checked my mirrors again.

>>17285427
I meant to say I'm increasing my night time vision, not my visibility. though it would increase my visibility before crests and corners, as they would be able to see my lights before they could see my bike.
once cars can directly see my headlights, the driving lights and highbeam will be off, and only my lowbeam will be on. I won't be blinding anyone because they won't be on when anyone's coming the other way.

>>17285447
Because of the hearing protection, my music is on a low volume.
Also, i mostly ride on back roads and highways. In the city emergency vehicles use dedicated bus lanes.

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>>17285447
>>17285444

http://www.pocsports.com/eu/receptor-bug-communication-%282013-edition%29/10251.html

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PICKING HER UP TOMORROW BOYS

>150 horses
>R1 bits everywhere

HYPE IS REAL

>>17285411
I've got a sena 20s, it's fancy and nice but completely unnecessary to have the top of the line model. I'd look at one the cheaper ones. I've heard good things about cardo scala as well. The 10r and 10u are both nice if you want something stealthy or hidden.

>>17285460
May I get your BMW when you die?

>>17285462
I only care about battery life and sound quality. How's that on those Senas?

>>17284458
I know this can be an issue but not with the KTM. This from someone who used scrapped the engine saver mushrooms on a 04 fazer 1000 and never got the last bit. If the bike won't do it, its fairly obvious and their the outliers not the norm. Well save cruisers of course.

>>17285448
Again, vision means jack shit if your mental capacity is limited (this is not an insult; no man can process unlimited amounts of information) and the threat status of objects can change dramatically in a short time regardless of whether or not you see it.
>though it would increase my visibility before crests and corners, as they would be able to see my lights before they could see my bike.
Even with focused beams they'll see you early enough. They don't notice you when your lights are shining directly into their eyes, they see light diffused by the air and reflected / scattered from surrounding surfaces.>>17285457

>>17285457
>my music is on a low volume.
That is inconsequential; the SNR will tank if you listen to anything.
I don't know about your city but a) bus lanes aren't everywhere, b) bus lanes might be blocked by -- you guessed it -- buses that can't easily make room, so it's down to the cars to make room in between.

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trying to workout if these shit munchers actualy have a phone line or if this is just an elaborate ruse to see who long stupid retareds like me will stay on the line

>>17285473
look, you're entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine. I believe that driving lights will make night riding safer, and I'm going to try them out. i'll report back in two weeks or so and tell if they're useful or not. I don't see the harm in at least trying them out though.

>>17285473
>I don't know about your city
That's pretty obvious
>a) bus lanes aren't everywhere
They are in my city
>b )bus lanes might be blocked by -- you guessed it -- buses that can't easily make room, so it's down to the cars to make room in between.
Like I said, DEDICATED bus lanes, ONLY busses and emergency vehicles. Two way roads, just for them, through the entire city.

>>17285483
This isn't a matter of opinion. Blinding people at night is dangerous and increasing your field of view at night by any significant amount is pointless. These are objective facts, not opinions.

>>17285484
>ONLY busses and emergency vehicles
Well hurr. People don't always follow the law. Mercs and Beemers in particular love hogging those lanes. And even if they don't, if there's a queue of 3 busses stuck at a set of traffic lights, emergency vehicles can't get through.
I'm having a hard time believing your claims. On main roads, sure. I doubt every small street as a dedicated bus / emergency lane.

>>17285411
i have the chinkshit one from ebay, the bts2 or whatever and it works pretty good, downright amazing if you factor cost compared to the senas

>>17285409
loud exhaust is only audible if youre stacked up behind a car or in slow traffic the wind carries too much sound away for anyone to hear much when you approach from behind on freeways.
but then everyone has to listen to your bike for ages once youre past them or next to them

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So i just pulled these plugs from a 15 year old bike with 14k kms in it (for the Very First Time probably)

Do they Look like the bike runs too rich or is that normal for their age?

>>17285491
How's battery and sound quality?

>>17285459
Lad, that's a ski helmet.

>>17285471
Regarding the 20s. Sound quality is okay but not great, a bit tinny, however the speakers can be upgraded to ones from a pair of koss headphones if you can do a tiny bit of diy. As for battery life, I'm generally getting 6-8 hours of music on and intercom connected battery life, and they charge really quick. For my touring I'll just have a power bank in my backpack with one of the cables running to the sena so I have a full battery for a couple of days.

>>17285490
>blinding people at night is dangerous
yeah that's why I won't be blinding people. you turn them off when others are coming the other way, just like highbeam.
>increasing your field of view at night by any significant amount is pointless
that is entirely untrue. you've clearly never been in a car with driving lights.

>>17285498
Still a Beats Helmet. And given the law of big numbers, at least one idiot will ride with this thing because it's Beats.

>>17285494
a little rich, was it at idle or load when you turned off the engine. idle matters less.

>>17285498
>Lad, that's a ski helmet.
A helmet's a helmet.

>>17285496
sound quality is meh for music but pretty good for voice, better than i expected for $35
battery life is about 11 hours playing music loud enough to be heard over the bike and wind on the freeway

>>17285505
No i mean i changed Thema out for new ones. The bike was cold when i Took them out

>>17285236
>An example of how I roll. DL650 looks big and clumsy, but you can ride it almost like usual street bike
I can`t attach webm, here the yt link
https://youtu.be/bHWHk6hPgUw
>>17285243
I used some cheap noname round fog lights for cars. They were surprisingly not bad.

Hey does nobody want to buy my bike? :(

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>>17285463
Sure*

* towing charges are on you

>>17285490
>Well hurr. People don't always follow the law. Mercs and Beemers in particular love hogging those lanes.
They first need a place to get on those lanes. They are not on the normal roads, but separate roads, fenced off.

>And even if they don't, if there's a queue of 3 busses stuck at a set of traffic lights, emergency vehicles can't get through.
Busses have priority over other trafic, also buslanes are normally clear with at most 3 busses riding behind each other

>I'm having a hard time believing your claims. On main roads, sure. I doubt every small street as a dedicated bus / emergency lane.
Like I said, not on normal roads, they are separated, following other routes.

Emergency vehicles and buses in my city don't ride with normal traffic, never have to worry about them.

>>17285515
*Why

>>17285519
That sounds amazing. Can you tell me what city, or at least country, you're in?

>>17285517
I'll get my fat cow to pull her new playmate home.

>>17285522
I live in sheboygan

>>17285522
Almere, The Netherlands

>>17285517
Lol i thought you wanted a f4i

>>17285528
https://youtu.be/iP-G7t5Ts3I

Is that you?

>>17285528
Big Yellow?

>>17285534
Brabanders aren't Dutch

>>17285535
She's brown now

>>17285538
>travel through Yurop
>get BROWN'D
who'da thunk it

>>17285540
It's mostly brown from the blood of her enemies

>>17285538
wat zijn ze dan?

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>>17285529
I did and still think it would be a neat bike to own, but already having my beaten up F3, it' would be too much of the same. FZ1 is pretty much endgame as far as power and most components go.

I think I'll move away from the street legal track tyres, put some PP3s on her for a while and take her on the street a bit more, it's a fun bike to ride.

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>>17285545
?

I watched some motorcycle videos recently on youtube, so now the site feeds me related stuff. For some reason this means the home page is filled with 'moto vloggers'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3TsQFWk9hI

>youtubers are...influential...to say the least

What is wrong with millenials? Can they be fixed or are we looking at just wholesale chemical castration to cut our losses?

>>17285555
Why even use the home page? It's full of cancer in any case.

>>17285551
Brabolanders. Afrika begint ten zuiden van de Rijn.

>>17285553
Yes

>>17285555
>what's wrong with millenials?

t. Le funny Trump voter

>>17285559

Because it's also where I can find videos of dogs that don't like having baths. I'm on those compilations the second they come out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4LnorVVxfw

>>17285552
Ah you're the spaniard with the F3, you wert actually the one that reinforced me in getting a CBR as my next bike lol

I once saw a FZ1 with a neat Cobra exhaust and it sounded so damn good

>>17285563

Not American mate. I voted for an Independent that promised to buy everyone who voted for him a beer if he won office. He lost. Still bought me a beer, though.

>>17285568
Meh, I just go straight to my subscriptions and use the search function to find new stuff.

>>17285555
>wind noise
slight ree

>>17284164
words of wisdom

Anyone else's motorcycles make weird sound when off, even 3 hours at parking,
sound a little bit metallic sound like "tooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooo
I think it has something to do with the angle that I park my bike

>>17285578

I got through the whole thing because the autism was strangely fascinating, but I don't see why a person would think other people want to watch them blog on a motorcycle.

This sort of thing, on the other hand, is exactly what the people want:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHUmevSHFJk

>>17284449
Remove 2hu
Put on an idolmaster, aria, or raburaibu

Having the proper weeaboo faggotry on your bike improves riding skill and adds horsepower.

>>17285594
>those speed wobbles
besides theft this is probably why I'm getting cold feet about buying a sport bike

>>17285610
Sport bikes are normally set up to be less prone to those.

What car do you suggest for a guy that hates cars and only wants to ride bikes?

>>17285411
I've been riding for like 6 years with nothing but the sound of engine noise and wind but now a few of my friends have finally gotten motorcycles and I actually have people to ride with occasionally so I'm thinking about getting a Sena 10s or something so we can talk while we're riding. Well, they're the ones who really want to talk while riding, I actually like the feeling of solitude I get while riding with no music or conversation. I wouldn't mind being able to say stuff like, "hey let's take this next road up there" or "let's make a pit stop at the next gas station" but I'm not sure if I'd enjoy constant chatter when I'm trying to concentrate on what speed I should be taking the next corner at.

>>17285610

>sport bike

Pretty much anything with fucked head stem bearings as well.

https://youtu.be/PHUmevSHFJk?t=7m3s

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>>17285087
its like a friend zone with wheels.

>>17285569
Shit yeah pham.

Got sights set in any bike in particular already?

FZ1 looks pretty muscular up close. Can't wait to ride it home tomorrow.

>>17285618
BMW K1600GTL or Honda Goldwing

>>17285618

Something that can tow a bike trailer, like a subaru wagon or something. Just needs torque and space for track gear.

>>17285632
It's like a motorcycle version of the hoverhand, take a girl on a bike ride without having her wrap her arms around you and squeeze her body against yours.

>>17285649
But that's the only reason a girl is even allowed on the back.

>>17285653
Exactly

>>17285064
I hate taking pictures of my bike.

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>>17285064
my retarded slow bike that gives ridiculous mpg back and is extremely dangerous to use on highway.

>>17285658
Grouchy Smurf pls, just post a picture of your baiku.

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>>17285649
>>17285653
>taking female pilion
>she holds onto the arse handles

>>17285665
what's your mpg? i get like 45, most i've gotten was 55. but i ride a 1200 vtwin

>>17285568
Some of those owners shouldn`t have dogs. One women was afraid of a tiny little dog. Also letting dogs growl at you is unwise, you must beat the dog into submission if it does.

>>17285672
100+

250-300 miles to the tank, costs £10 to fill up.

>>17285670
That's a reason to accelerate as hard as possible.
Normally that's how they find out why I said to hold me.
Or they end up on the road.

>>17285670
>taking female pilion
>shes lazy to reach around so she gets a good painful grip on your love handles.

>>17285682
>risk throwing someone off the back of your bike just because they won't hold on to you

Fuck that, I'm not getting sued over that shit.

>>17285678
what type of bike is it looks like a ybr125?

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>>17285087
That's just depressing

>>17285692
yes its a YBR 125, I am thinking of trading it for a varadero or mt 125 though, if I fail my bike test again.

>>17285695
That side-bar scares me, looks like it'd snap the rider's leg if the bike went over on its side and his leg got caught by the bar.

>>17285674
>you must beat the dog into submission if it does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ihXq_WwiWM

>>17285687
how would you possibly get sued for that?

Worst case ontario insurance takes care of it and its all just water under the fridge

>>17285704
Fuck that lisping faggot, I wish a dog would tear his face off.

>>17285687
Luckily I don't live in Burgerstan and a vocal warning is enough.
Riding on the back is putting your live in the hands of the person riding, better listen to them when they warn you about the risks and how to behave (and yes, I tell them that before getting on).
I'm not even using full throttle, as that will just make me wheelie, which is illegal and makes me responsible. Also only at the start on a quiet road, don't want someone else running them over.

>>17285697
nice I just bought one for my first bike my inner jew likes your mpg assessment but how did you find it as far as riding goes.

>>17285710

He forgot to whisper, was talking at normal volume, that's why he got bitten.

>>17285708
>intentionally buck girl off the back of your bike
>she breaks her wrist and gets a mild concussion

In the US you'd likely get a misdemeanor criminal charge, possibly have your license suspended for a bit, and would face the very real possibility of her getting a lawyer and suing you for damages and/or "pain and suffering". If it's proven that you did it intentionally then I don't think your motorcycle insurance has to cover the incident either.

>>17285098
>saupreiß

>>17285718
>she breaks her wrist
Possible if you're unlucky.

>And gets a mild concussion
That's why you wear helmets

>>17285704
>not strangling the dog into submission
smdh

>>17285736
It's possible to get a concussion even if you're wearing a helmet. Even if she doesn't get a concussion then you've just ruined the helmet she was wearing and will have to buy another.

>>17285713
well it is perfect around town at 30-40mph speeds, it was basically designed for this, but take it on A roads/motorways and thats a different story.

Its max speed is 60-65mph, so it will just about manage it but its a butt clenching experience, not very fun, and merging off of slip roads is generally quite a dangerous thing to do. And its mpg will go down quite a bit doing speeds like that as its nearly at the red line. Still better than just about any other petrol powered vehicle on earth though.

>>17285745
oh and also, it is extremely comfortable, I am 6'1, it is perfect for me, I've sat on it for hours and hours and it has felt more comfy than a car.

>>17285737

I like to make punishment a random thing, just out of the blue. Dog pisses on the carpet or something and you just act casual about it, no big deal. Later, he's asleep or something and you just kick shit out of him.

He'll fear the unexpected and always be aware that it might be coming. I've had to put a few dogs down because they went psycho, but I think that's more down to the dogs, not the technique.

>>17285740
Well, thats her problem for not listening to the person who has her life in his hands.
You think I feel bad for showing a dumb girl why she should hold onto me in a controlled manner?
You think it's better to let her do that and make you crash in a corner?

some anons are talking about doggos and some other anons are debating how to give your crush a concussion so she won't remember the rape.

nice /dbt/

>>17285786
You prefer chloroform?

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>>17285792
i prefer keeping girls away from my bike in the first place

>>17285792
>not chloroforming your dogo for misbehaving

>>17285745
>>17285748
great, I'll be driving it 99% of the time in town and I'm not much taller than you. Looks like I've made a good choice here.

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>>17285802
>slow halation

>>17284900
lmao, did he ebin look

>>17285802
>honda
>250
>love live
>yuri
>bag on passenger seat

The only thing missing is a /dbt/ sticker.

Take notes, this is how you stay a virgin.

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Friendly reminder that true patricians ride Suzuki.

>>17285837
*Yamaha

>>17285837
>>17285842
Honda

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>>17285837
Can confirm

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>>17285842
>>17285845

>>17285837
>>17285842
>>17285845
{all other bike manufacturer excluding chink shite and anything made in curry land}

>>17285718
>If it's proven that you did it intentionally
impossible to prove though

>>17285858
unless they reference this thread as proof of intent

>>17284329
helmet > gloves > boots

in that order for protection

jacket over boots for protection from weather.

fun fact, if you scrape your hands enough they amputate them, can't do skin grafts on the palm of your hand buddy.

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>>17285837
can confirm suzuki is best

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post more Suzuki

>>17285866
spooky

>>17285804
yeah its an excellent first bike/commuter. Really good bike, can't really fault it for anything, does what it says on the tin.

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>>17285932
>way of life!

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>>17285704
>gets bitten again because he did not dominate the animals as a master should

>>17285737
This doesn`t work unless you want to kill the dog. Just beat the dog until it lies down and stops growling.

>>17285901
>fun fact, if you scrape your hands enough they amputate them, can't do skin grafts on the palm of your hand buddy.
source?

>>17285932
>snoozuki

>>17285913
zuk mah nda

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>>17285977

>>17285985
>looks like a Cruiser rider
No great loss to the motorcycling world then.

>>17285411
Got a pair of sena 10s for my bday from my buddy. Use it and earplugs and listen to music highway commute. While riding around with the buddy its nice to be able to give directions, call out obstacles, or talk about memes.

>>17285471
I have the original smh10. Sound quality is pretty poor, but better than nothing. Battery had degraded a lot over the 2 years I owned it, but I just replaced the battery and now it lasts probably 8 hours of ride time between charges, playing music from my phone via bluetooth most of the time.

>>17284329
i meant under 200 US for each sorry!

>>17285977

They can, it's just difficult. I had two grafts, one didn't work and got done three times. Obviously with full thickness burns you lose sensation and that means trouble for hands, but they can do grafts on the palms.

>>17286120
>Obviously with full thickness burns you lose sensation and that means trouble for hands
right, this I can believe for sure. but amputation? extremely skeptical.