[ D a i l y B i k e T h r e a d ] - /dbt/

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hey you dusty old cumfarts

anime

>>17255157
is for basement dwelling, pedophile weeaboos who fuck body pillows.

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This is a new thread

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>>17255167
Sure, why not?

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>>17255146
>People drag their knees without even using all of their tyres, it is like the only reason they do it is specifically to "drag knee" its not even helping them corner faster...
Yeah I know but I just want that really exciting feeling of literally contacting the ground at high speed. I've done it on a supermoto and it's fun whether it is helpful or not.

And I'm not contorting myself to dip my knee below the pegs just to drag knee or anything. I think my form is OK but haven't had a third person opinion or perspective to judge. I've just been trying to pick up the pace little by little until I can touch my knee down. It just hurts to know I'm not fast enough to do so.

>>17255197
try going around even a slight bend at 150+km/h instead of trying to drag knee below 80kmh, you pretty much have to around fast corners,

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who /adv/ here?

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>>17255146
GP riders touch their knee down way before they get to the edge of the tire, I was listening to something last night that was basically "on a modern tires if your knee is just touching down it means you can still lean further"

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>>17255255

>>17255255
that picture shows riders at the start of a fast turn where they will be leaning much further within less than a second.
I am talking about people sticking their knee out like in >>17255197 pic


Your point is moot.

>>17255154
Hola
How's the fireblade

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Thinking about buying an xr250r to turn into a purely desert bike that will be used in eastern oregon. Probably going to slap an acerbis monster tank on it and do some other select mods. This one looks nice but it's a '97 and its fucking $3200. Should I go for the kill and lowball him? If I get no response I'll probably find myself an older one.
https://roseburg.craigslist.org/mcy/6140901251.html

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>>17255242
Here bby

>>17255286
Not necessarily older actually, probably just different.
Also I know bike pictured looks newer than a 97, apparently he did some weird shit and put a seat, plastics and replaced the old busted fuel tank with one from a 2000 i believe. Seems like a waste of money but maybe that's why he priced it so high lmao

>>17255286
an xr250 is going to be a gutless piece of shit as a desert bike.
even a 400 is going to struggle in the sand, you want an xr650r at least or suffer the high maintenance of a crf450, sand is just hard on bikes.

You would likely be stuck in 4th gear with a top speed of around 60kmh in sand on an ex250, not trying to be mean or put the bikes down or anything they are great little bush hacks just useless in a desert.

>>17255303
>Implying this pigfat touring bike can do anything off-road
Pshhhh

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You guys think this hose is alright?

>>17255336
No, it looks completely fucked.
Probably going to have to sell it and buy a new bike.

But seriously its torn on the left side you can even see it in that picture, it needs to be replaced.

Holy fucking shit, I just popped my cherry and finally drove on a public road. I made it entire block to the gas station on the corner, filled up, and got back to my place without dying or fucking up in truly spectacular fashion (shifted into neutral once, but recovered). That was the most terrifying experience of my life.

/blog

>>17255263
Why you so mad though

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>>17255334
>implying a pigfat touring bike can't go off-road
Pshhhh

>>17255358
street rossi trying to drag knee when street rossi doesn't even know how to ride a bike annoys me.

Gives us all a bad name.

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>>17255365
>Implying anything can't go off-road
Pshhhh

But for real this trail was cool, I'm getting a dr650 tomorrow so I can come back and do the rest of it on a capable bike

>>17255336
No
And dude clean that shit up wtf do you even take care of it?

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>>17255211
I generally try to avoid getting too hektik around the really wide, fast corners due to fear of losing everything I have if a cop catches me doing 90+mph and the fear of really fucking myself up if I crash.
I've been riding a road frequently with a 55mph speed limit but most of the corners have a recommended speed of 20-35mph. I usually hit them at 50-75mph.

In my autistic quest I mounted the camera facing myself to see how I was doing. It's hard to tell how far away I am from this camera angle. At least you can see I'm not jamming it down as low as possible like >>17255197 right?

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>>17255377
To be honest if it isnt pissing down rain you can take a road bike most places you can take a dirt bike, pic related

>>17255329
Yeah I know what you mean, but the Oregon high desert isn't really very sandy. It's a lot of rolling "plains" with sage brush pretty much everywhere. My little brother rides a TRX90X 4 wheeler (he doesn't like 2 wheels, bless his soul) and on that thing you can be wide open all the time and go pretty fast even with my lard ass on it. I don't need a 400 anyway as I currently ride an xr200r out in the desert and have a couple other poop looking beaters for more inland riding and I just want something with not shit suspension. I've been looking at crf230f's but they only hold 1.9 gallons in the tank and with an xr you can get up to like 7 or something insane.

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>>17255387
It was pissing down rain
I couldn't keep the rear tire under me lol, we have very small particle clay here instead of dust, so it's super slick

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>>17255334
Say that to my face and see what happens

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>>17255388
i ride a modified 300exc that only weighs 105kg with a full tank of fuel while pushing out near 60bhp and even that struggles in sand unless you rev the ever living shit out of it just for perspective.
sand is just a cunt, you really need that bottom end power because you need to be in a higher gear to begin with.

650's are really nice for sand riding, even the dr650 is a nice bike for cruising around the deserts because it just has dem bottom end torques and really with sand riding weight is not an issue, if anything weight only makes the bike more stable.

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>>17255242
Yay

>>17255356
I can understand excitement but terrifying? Dont be pussi mang

my owner's manual says use kawasaki 10w-40 4stroke oil

can i just use any 10w-40 oil off the shelf?

>baby's first oil change

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>>17255242
Sup, son.

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>>17255405
where i live is mainly white sand so you can get through that on the road bike no worries even when it is wet, it is only the red clay that is a problem that shit is like well wet clay...
even the dirt bike struggles on that shit.

>>17255384
I think knee dragging comes naturally. Just keep riding your bike and the more comfortable you get with it, the faster you'll take corners and eventually drag knee

>>17255450
Sure

>>17255450
Just make sure its made for motorcycles otherwise yea go for it

>>17255450
I use motul 10w-40 (different types for different bikes of course) but people on dbt will probably tell you spending $100/gallon on oil is a waste of money.

>>17255468
I don't need 4 stroke oil?

>>17255384
Try getting comfortable in the upright position first, get comfortable with scraping your pegs around a corner WITHOUT leaning in with the bike, these will obviously be on slow speed corners and only around corners you know your limits on but after finding that limit while completely upright leaning further into the corner while going faster will become much more natural.

This is exactly how people like schaaf became decent riders.

>>17255450
as long as its motorcycle oil

>>17255485
What if you're on an R6 and the pegs are decently high up?

>R: 43
>P: 19
Samefags

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>>17255477
?
do you know what 2 stroke oil is?
because it is literally gear box oil and then the oil you use for fuel is kinda the most expensive oil available...

>>17255485
who

>>17255494
the pegs aren't so high up that you are losing traction on the tyre, they will scrape before you drop the bike unless the road conditions are poor in which case you should have gone to a track instead of pushing limits in unknown conditions.

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>>17255468
>>17255486
I just bought this should I return it or use it in my ninja?

>>17255495
Jesus youre retarded

>>17255498
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Yr5dJVz-To

>>17255508
Naw that's totally fine
>>17255511
No u

>>17255495
Are you literally retarded?
this is a general on /o/ not a porn dump on /b/ fuck off.

>>17255508
does it say for use with motorcycles?

the reason being is that car oil has lots of friction modifiers that make the oil extra slippery, but because of that motorcycles with wet clutches cant use it, because your clutch is bathed in the oil and if the oil is too slippery your clutch wont work

Where does one begin when considering to gimp out and tune their bike engine???

whats the biggest meme street bike?

>>17255508
Castrol gtx oil is fine assuming it is not a high powered/high revving sports bike.

It is actually probably one of the best oil choices for your typical motorcycle engine. (low revving being under 10,000RPM red line)

>>17255519
>>17255511
Do y'all just bite hooks you see floating around?

>>17255535
r3

>>17255538
>>17255514
Dont listen to these idiots. Your clutch will not work properly with car oils.
You can either use motorcycle oil, or MOST bikes are fine with a diesel oil of the correct weight (like rotella). but then again some arent. Mine did not like it at all.

>>17255512
Who

>>17255539
Honestly i don't know what is more effective, ignoring it or biting the bait and making them think they actually pissed someone off but neither really helps anything.

>>17255535
The one you're riding.
>and anything KKK touches.

>>17255530
no it doesn't say for motorcycles.
its just basic 10w-40 oil
>>17255538
its for a ninja 300 i just bought a day ago
>>17255551
I can easily return it and get pure motorcycle oil no prob.

>>17255535
gs500 cb500 really anything under 600cc

>>17255567
You mean anything under 1000cc?

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>>17255563
should be fine. not like its a high revving enging, i know i wouldnt bother putting something like pic related in it that shits expensive.

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>>17255508
check to make sure it doesn't have the high efficiency friction modifiers, they are what makes your clutch slip

>>17255445
I'm not sure I'd know the difference. I'm a 35yo cis white male accountant who has never done anything more exciting than changing to a new brand of toilet paper.

I have one specific concern... Before I went on my grand adventure, I did some brake testing since I had to reset the adjusters. The lever movements are in spec. The rear brake locks up tight as a drum (and leaves nice skids that I hope I don't have to explain to the bldr manager). But I'm not sure if the front wheel was locking up or not, as it left no skid. The brakes felt fine on the road. Is this anything I should be concerned with, or is it possibly just because of the new tires? If so, how long should I let them break in before I get concerned?

>>17255572
>1000cc
kek listne faggot anything over 900cc just gets 2 fat 2 go fast its called germany faggot read up

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>>17255573
>>17255574

thanks for all the replies, but im just gonna go get this tomorrow and not have to worry about anything

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>>17255583
you should not be locking the rear wheel when braking m8, that is asking for a highside.

>>17255595
if you want good oil get the one in >>17255573
pic thats pretty much the best all rounder available on the market.

motul in general is just good oil.

>riding along minding my own business
>some college kids in a beat up jeep are throwing hand signs at me
>oh they want me to wheelie
>well I guess I can do that
>front end up
>they swerve the fucking jeep at me, trying to scare me
>follow them for about 20 minutes
>dude in the driver seat is still smiling
>everyone else looks scared
I don't think they were all in on that
>dude finally pulls over in a gas station
>pull up behind him and get off the bike
>douche peels away and hits a garbage can on his way out.
Was ready to throw hands but I think this guy will get himself killed on his own soon enough
But I had to sit in the gas station for a minute trying to figure out what the fuck is wrong with that kid.

>>17255485
>>17255505
scraping pegs on a CB500 is a lot different from scraping pegs without feelers on a supersport

>>17255599
It was intentional, I've always been under the impression that if you're brake system couldn't lock up the wheel, something was wrong.

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Buying a new bike in the next few months and i'm torn between an FZ-09 or an 821 Hypermotard. i can't find any decent comparison videos online. Please help!

>>17255616
do you want to ride or wrench?

>ride
yamaha

>wrench
ducati

>>17255612
well i am telling you your brakes are more than capable of locking up the wheels and doing so is going to make you crash.

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>Troy Corser teaches how to sit on a bike
>literally the opposite of every performance riding book or article I've read
I feel like nobody actually knows what they're doing

>>17255612
If you can't lock the rear brake something is very wrong. Like, you have no rear brake very wrong.

>>17255583
>>17255612
yeah if you squeezed the lever all the way in and nothing happened that's not a good sign.
You really don't want to lock up your front wheel though. Doing so will make you fall.

>6 bikes at work
>FZ6R and FZ09
>SV650N and V-Strom 650
>CBR300R and CBR1100XX
Kawasucky BTFO

>>17255627
i hear Ducati reliability can be shit. Wish their bikes weren't so fucking sexy

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what are some reliable,big and tough looking dirt bikes?

>>17255616
Hypermotard

>>17255668
DR-Z400, XR650L, XR650R, KX500

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I'm finally free, I matter now. Say hello to my new debtcycle

>>17255685
>free
>debt
Good joke

>>17255701
Haha help

>>17255685
>loan
>for a cheap piece of japshit
Do you work at burgerking?

>>17255711
Post bike with an egg on it

>>17255711
Post your cool/expensive motorcycle that you paid cash money for

>>17255685
Congrats anon that looks pretty nice

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>>17255720
That sounds messi
>>17255758
Pic related, paid cash. Didnt buy new and expensive because im actually good with my money thanks

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>>17255242

Not gonna lie, the non-boxer GS (twin and single) still gives me wood.

>>17255769
even my car is worth more than that shit heap and my car is literally just a trailer with wheels for transporting my dirt bikes.

>>17255685
>abs
>>17255772
Are you the 5' tall guy?

>>17255776
>jelly that my ninja is faster than his trailer
Whew

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>>17255242
yo

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>>17255668
Dr650 is good too, other guy didn't mention it for some reason

>>17255769
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA what a fucking ugly piece of shit

Hey mom look I got my first bike. They shoulda paid you to get that fucking dumpster fire

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>>17255772
that's a comfy picture

>>17255765
Thanks pal
>>17255783
Fox grapes

>>17255804
Just give me some peanut butter and bread, we got a sandwhich

>>17255816
Why would someone be jealous of something that literally even a dirt farmer could afford. Nice spray painted engine you fucking chode

>>17255811
>I waited for you fry

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>>17255787
probably is, my trailer is speed limited to 180kmh

>>17255802
because it isn't as "big and tough looking" as the other bikes, which are all taller

>changing brake pads and cleaning relubing chain
>bike on rear stand on an incline
>finish up and push back into garage
>stand catches edge of concrete and bike comes off stand falling to ground

Nice

>>17255827
Because its better than what you got ha

>>17255854
"Ha"

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>>17255242
'Adventure sports' road warrior reporting in

>>17255860
>"Ha"

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>>17255802
That thing could pull a house
>>17255840
But it'll turn into a monster with a big bore kit.
https://youtu.be/ob4gUlerpYs?t=11

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>riding my WR250R
>at a stop light
>some third worlder pulls up next to me on a delapidated DRZ400
>he looks through his Kmart helmet and throws me a rev
>the sound of rod knock and bearing failure can be heard over the cacophony of noise emitting from his bikes ancient engine
>decide to give him a go
>snick my slick shifting 6 speed into it's first perfectly engineered ratio
>give a slight twist of the wrist and a monstrous sound emits from this fire-breather's tailpipe
>not a vibration in sight thanks to smooth balance and superior Yamaha engineering
>light turns green and I take off a leaving him in a cloud of his own suzuki flavored dust.
>look back to see he had to pull over and adjust his carb and soon after his motor seized.
>immediately after the poor quality steel frame disintegrated into a pile of slightly better quality rust
>third worlder immediately headed off to the Yamaha dealership finally swearing off low quality suzuki motorcycles for good.

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>the bike you wanted was sold last weekend and owner forgot to take the ad down
there will be more, I guess. hell, there's another sv that's one year older, 5k less miles and $500 cheaper that was posted yesterday - but it's 2 additional hours away. considering just renting a trailer tbqh.

but fuck me, i just don't know anyone who bikes well enough to ask them to ride in the car with me for six hours. getting tired of this meme, kinda just want to buy something and be done with it.

I could go cheaper, and get a two different non-S, 2001 versions for less than $2k - but muh carbs (and muh windshield).

ugh.

>>17255934
Where is the bike

>>17255802
>>17255840
>>17255899

DR650's have a decent motor, unfortunately they are meme cooled and have a shit frame and shit suspension.

The fact that the motors make decent power/torque does not make up for the fact that overall the bike is garbage.

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>>17255945
three hours outside of Dallas https://nacogdoches.craigslist.org/mcy/6139953284.html
if the bike isn't too far, I'm game to ride it home; if the bike isn't too expensive, I'm game to rent a trailer. at this point I'm more concerned about the "take someone who knows something about bikes to help inspect if you don't know shit about them yourself" (I don't).

I've posted on this topic a few times before - if I do this much more I bet I'll have anons yelling at me to make up my mind and get something done (I have a discord, a fb chat, and a counselor doing that already).

For comparison, it took me somewhere around two months to decide on and buy a GTX1060 for 250 burgers.

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I need a recommendation on eyewear.

I'd go to a full face helmet if I wasn't worried about a fucking fog problem. I deal with that shit all the time regardless of whatever anti-fog the manufacturer claims.

I have glasses they're ray bans and fucking big so over glasses shades or goggles aren't an option. Should I get contacts? Need something to stop my glasses lenses from exploding into a million glass shards because a bugs dick hit them at 120kph.

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>>17255920
quality

>>17256016
Contacts and a full face with a pinlock
Ive never had a fog issue.

>>17256016
is that you 3km of gravel anon?

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>>17256016
just get a decent full face helmet, i live in a fairly humid area and never have problems with fogging in my helmet.

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>breaks your eardrums
My god its loud

>>17256033
I put a carbon can and a catless header on my bike and it's loud as fuck now. I scare the shit out of people when I fly past them, I feel kind of bad.

cb500 95-97 is it a hard bitch? im looking for a real hard bitch

>>17256033
That looks a bit phallic

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So colour me retarded but like what is the actual plan for SAM? Like we are there for a good few days so are we just gonna hang out and ride the dragon a bunch and hit other roads in the area?

>>17256045
Don't you know?
2bros are 4 homos

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>>17256033
>twodeaf bros
its loud as fuck but definitely helped wake up the old bushpig though

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>>17256045
Got something on your mind anon?
>>17256043
I just went from stock can to this, i knew it would be louder but holy crap my neighbors are not going to be happy

>>17256056
What's up with that windscreen? Got a hole in it?
>>17256052
I've always thought the name sounded super gay

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>>17256063
what is your verdict on pic related?

>>17256073
>homo orgy
>rimjobs n fries
Have to specify top or bottom with every order

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>>17256050
Yup, dragon, Cherohala Skyway, general camping activities. Most people will be getting there late Thursday, so most of the riding will be on Friday and Saturday, leaving Sunday at whatever time people feel like. So 3 nights total
There are some decent trails around too, so maybe any dual sport guys can go out and do that at some point.
But yeah, mainly just gonna ride all the good roads around and hang out at the campsite in the evenings
I don't have any plans for food, so bring plenty of money to eat out, maybe we can do spuds and burgs for dinner on a fire, idk
There is a small restaurant at the campsite, probably just gonna get breakfast there or something

We'll figure it out I'm sure

I'm gonna make sure we will have space there tomorrow afternoon when I get off work, I was busy until late today

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>>17256063
No?

>>17256085
Nevermind it's just ugly
Carry on

I'm wearing a pair of wx goggles, trying them out before riding on Saturday. Hope the fuck do I stop the fog lel

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Any ontariofags want to ride dirt this Friday? Buddy and I are riding some backroads.

>>17256105
Cat shit
Literally a thing

>>17255485
This is a fantastic way to crash. Lean with the bike.

>>17256105
go faster, breathe less, sweat less
or get some antifog spray

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>>17256029

Yes anon its me, It ended up being 6km of this shit before I found pavement, asshole puckering at 80km/hr but since I was teaching myself to ride I learned quickly any problem I was having like slipping on cow shit or mud was rectified by opening the throttle.

Very fun machine! I love how when I open the throttle it feels like the bikes going to leave me behind if not for the back of the seat catching me and my fingers holding the bars.

I need to helmet other than 3/4 or beanie though since the wind causes my eyes to water hard.

>>17256103
>>17256063
Savage

>>17256112
It came with an anti fog that I used, didn't help but I guess for 10 bux why not

does anyone elses penis get stimulated by the gas tank by engine RPMs?

Coming home from the bike store yesterday I thought I was going to literally blast my pants.

Dont know how to feel about this.

>>17256073
Pretty good, but messy. They actually have malt vinegar on hand for the fries (that is rarer than it should be up here). If they did milkshakes/malts, they would approach perfection.

>>17256031

Alright any recommendations? Something small, plain that won't be ass for long distances the plainer the better

>>17256073
Damn it now I'm googling the nearest queerguys...

>>17256108
Where abouts?

>>17256133
Just checked, nearest one is too far.

In N Out isn't that far though. Like their food better anyway.

>>17256108
I´d fucking love to but unfortunately I´m in nova scotia

>>17256130
Scorpion r410 is cheap and good. Just look at what's on revzilla or something.

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>>17256130
HJC fg-17 is a really good helmet for the price.
its actually a better helmet than the Shoei gt air i use as far as protection is concerned it is just slightly louder and less comfortable (coming from someone who owns both helmets)

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>>17256143
hudsons is way better, five guys is mediocre at best when you consider the prices

>>17256126
what bike?
I was told to buy a KLR650 because of "all the bitches love the single-cylinder pussy massage"
Eventually decided that gofast was more important to me than forherpleasure though
[spoiler]tbqh the sound of busting a load from your bike doesn't sound that bad - just another bonding experience r-right?[/spoiler]

>>17256143
feels good to have both a fiveguys and an in'n'out open in our town in the past couple of years

>>17256085
650?

>>17256138
Don't know yet. I am coming up with some maps now but if you have suggestions I would love to hear it.

>>17256149
Might go next week too if you are back. Buddy just rode a crf230 and now he can't stop thinking about bikes.

>>17256177
Its a 1000

>>17256178
Like where are u located tho?

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>>17256151
>>17256150

Thanks anons, I was looking at something like a Biltwell gringo as well, the beanie or 3/4 is good for sub 80km/hr but anything over and the wind is bad for the eyeballs. I may end up getting contacts and safety shades instead and just get a bandana for the face though.

Something about a heavy cruiser and a full face doesn't seem accurate... I use fucking gardening gloves as riding gloves.

>>17256115
It is a fantastic way to crash at high speeds but at low speeds it is the best way to learn with minimal risk........

There is no such thing as safely learning to push limits and if you think there is then you are retarded.

If you are incapable of understanding your limits or the bikes limits then sure, not leaning into a corner may be a bad idea but so might riding a bike in general so why don't you jsut quit and or fuck off back to /r/motorcycles

>>17256191
Just remember that not every helmet fits every person and that a helmet with below average safety standards that fits you properly will protect you better than the best helmet on the market if it is a bad fit.

All helmets are made way beyond safety standards, what makes them effective is a proper fit, the only thing you are paying more money for is comfort.

In other words, NEVER buy a helmet simply because it is expensive, only buy helmets that fit YOUR head.

Everyone has a different shaped head.

hey /dbt/ Is the new 2017 husqvarna reliability almost as good as a DRZ when maintaining it properly?

>>17256211
Didnt you ask this last thread and didnt someone say no already

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Really, faggot?

>>17256211
The DRZ is honestly a meme bike for reddit posters who do not know better.

Any bike can last a long time with proper maintenance the determining factor is what you consider proper maintenance and how much you are willing to spend on oils/heavy duty engine parts which in turn reduce engine power and fuel efficiency.

Really it is too big of a thing to lump into one unreliable category, even a 450cc KTM MX bike can be extremely reliable with proper maintenance.

Or are we just meming?
Lol durr get wr250x because maymays and broken frame mounts are not a big deal lol

>>17256191
I get you're a dumb cruiser rider but you should really look into good gear. Also if you're looking for fog free and no wind flying in your eyes at speed, the gringo will do nothing. The face shield doesn't seal around a gasket and you will get no antifog capability because there is no pinlock insert.

There are plenty of people who ride cruisers and wear full face helmets. You're just a cunt and want to look like a badass biker, bro.

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>>17255242
heyo

>>17256191
If you want the cruiser look get a Simpson or something. Also get some proper gloves.

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>>17256083
Ahh okay sounds good dude, hopefully i will be able to make it out

So how does /dbt/ feel about headlight modulators?

>>17256223
>Ktm
>Reliable

>Mx bike
>Reliable

W E W

>>17256190
GTA. Brampton Mississauga area. Thinking about going an hr or 2 outside of GTA though.

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>>17256224

You could be helpful beyond "pinlock" you were almost there and you fumbled the ball anon, y'see I work on bikes, I build bikes but I'm only starting to ride them.. you have the choice here to be cunty or to guide an anon.

So why does the lack of a gasket affect antifog? I can tell you how to rebuild nearly any metric motor from the 70's to the 80's but when it comes to this other shit I have no clue. Call me an idiot savant if it makes you happy but up until recently I'd rather build bikes from frame up than ride.

>>17256223
>wr250x
>broken frame mounts
What are you even talking about?

Your whole post was shit. WR250's and DRZ's are both very reliable bikes. Some euromeme dirtbike will never be as reliable.

>>17256250
Fucking autismo

>>17256232

I don't care about look when it comes to anything beyond turning a wrench on a bike I'm functionally retarded. I got yardworks gloves because I had no idea what the fuck to buy, fingerless? gauntlet? armored? deerskin? niggahide? No FUCKING idea.

>>17256226
If you don`t put "this space for rent" on that screen I'll be dispirited.

>>17256220
Sam is shit and you are head autists of the shitshow. Go fuck yourself.

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>>17256242
my 2009 ktm 300exc is currently on 327 hours of riding at 17,600km

>>17256273
>meme stroke

No one cares.

>>17256262

The locals call me caveman, or gorilla. I can fix their shit from toaster to rig welder to excavator but when it comes to anything non-mechanical I'm kinda fucked.. that's not autism.

>>17256219
Yea but i realized i posted after the new thread (this one) was up so I just ignored that thread...

>>17256223
I understand, thanks my dude.

>>17256273
>2stroke
There you go, 2stroke a best

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>>17256277
>his bike doesnt spew white smoke
get a load of this emissions fucked poofta faggot

>>17256270
actually I swapped that one for a windshield that was 2" shorter but I don't have a picture yet

sorry about the spirits

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>>17256285
2 smoke a best stroke

>>17256281
So you're just a dumb nigger and don't understand racial slurs?
Congrats, you can hit shit with a hammer

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>>17256288
>white smoke
if yours is, its broken.

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>>17256307

Try harder snowflake.

>>17256282
True i didnt notice when you posted, sorry anon. Also i have heard people talk on here about premature failures on the 701s, or maybe the 690s i cant remember, but i dont know if they were just memeing. I have seen a 701 on craigslist that said it had been rebuilt tho so i am not sure. Just wait until baird blows his up riding to sam and we will know for sure

>>17256288
>fucking with meme mix
>meme powerband
>fragile meme chamber hanging off front
>annoying meme stroke sounds
>memeing up the environment and dealing with meme stroke legislation
>meme tier fuel rage

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>>17256302
Agreed

>>17256317
You're a fucking retard, just buy a full face helmet

or dont, it might honestly be better if you arent contributing to the gene pool

>>17256292
Now I am disillusioned and dispirited, I;ll have to put extra memtastic stuff on mine.

>>17256332
That chain looks really loose... Is that just a thing with dirt bikes or what?

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>>17256335

>>17256343
Gotta leave room between the links for mud bro

>>17256343
Yea, because of the long suspension travel you need a loose chain so it doesn't bind.

>>17256343
theyre normally looser than street bikes because of the swingarm travel, but thats just gross negligence

>>17256343
Chain also tightens when you sit on it. The rider could also be a fat cunt

>>17256325
Awesome, thanks for the extra info. I will definitely be reading more then.

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>>17256307

Do millenials really think working with your hands is a bad thing? No wonder you're all fucked.

>>17256281
I'd say go check out the glove and helmet sections of Revzilla, click on something that looks cool and start watching the video reviews that most of them have. After you've watched several, you start to learn what kind of attributes are commonly considered when making a purchasing choice and you can figure out what criteria are important to you specifically.

Anon up there mentioned the Scorpion Exo 410, I'd +1 that; it's currently the one I intend to buy. It was also mentioned here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLFbUeHPrPc for whatever that's worth.

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>>17256250
The rubber that surrounds the area where the face shield on a full face helmet closes is the gasket. What's the function of a gasket, mechanic extraordinaire? To keep shit from leaking in/out. A tight seal from a face shield on that will not allow air or water in your helmet. Pinlock insert is a piece of plastic that you install on the inside of the faceshield. It acts like a dual pane window so that when you breathe hot air on the faceshield it will not fog up.

>>17256329
>He cant do simple math in his head
>He doesnt like his powerband to feel like a giant turbo hitting boost
>He doesnt like sexy thicc exhaust
>Doesnt like god tier exhaust note
>Is a gey
>you got me on that anon ill give you that
Anyways, 4strokes confimed a gay

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>>17256352
>>17256357
>>17256359
This problem has been solved already.

Why do dirt bikes still come with this antiquated sprocket alignment.

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>>17256381

>>17256373

The function of a gasket is understood but breath is hot humid air and is the worry, not outside air. The thought was that without a gasket more air would be circulated through the helmet.

>>17256269
How about full finger leather motorcycle gloves?
$30 will get you something serviceable, as long as it has a leather palm it'll be an improvement, basically the leather helps prevent your hand from getting torn up in a crash/drop.

>>17256381
2 minutes and counting

>>17256314
well it is ya know, a superior 2 stroke motorcycle.
>>17256329
>his bike doesn't have a power valve
my bike is tuned for maximum bottom end, with a heavier crank shaft plus the FMF gnarly expansion chamber with v force 4 reed valves and a wiseco piston (lighter piston results in less friction from movement) giving it more than 30nm of torque at 5000 rpm meaning it makes off of its power below the 11,000 rpm peak.

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>>17256373
This is a pinlock insert, if you look you can see the big letters that say "PINLOCK" on the inside of my shield. Amazing isn't it

>>17256381
Holy butterface, titman

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By the reactions I'm gonna assume this was a worksafe board. Whoops. Admin, please enjoy the nice boobs and cut me some slack.

>>17256381
yw, hope your ban isn't too long, all of the videos talk about fit and whether they tend long/short/narrow/etc for gloves and round/neutral/oval for helmets, etc. Very helpful. Also first restock is free, as you will get sick of hearing Anthony say at 120mph every video.

>>17256343
Yeah my chain was retardedly loose in that pic, i adjusteded it then since i just washed it
>>17256351
Haha fug pic related was on the ride to work that day before i washed it
>>17256352
>>17256357
Should be loose but not dangly loose like mine was
>>17256359
Not a fat cunt, skelly here

>>17256395
Are you colorblind by chance?

>>17256390
>tfw 11,000 rpm 2 stroke is the equal to a 22,00rpm 4 stroke
do people even understand this shit?

>>17255920
>riding my DR-Z400S
>finish riding trails and get on the freeway to go home
>see a WR250R rider fully tucked with the throttle pinned while tailgating a truck to reduce drag
>he's pulling an impressive 47mph

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>>17256401
not him but
i could see it happening

>>17256395
gb2/b/ retarded nigger
Get a brain bucket so we can laugh when you crash your hurrley into a guardrail and die

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>>17256390
white smoke is water wally, blue is best stroke

>>17256401

Yes, I cannot tell the difference between green/brown, blue/purple, orange/yellow how did you know?

>>17256409
Ah I forgot not everyone leaves it as is.
>>17256404
In theory but not reality right?

>>17256410
That's not me but seconded

>>17256055
woke up everything else within 3 miles of wherever you ride too

>>17256412
>blue/purple
that's the one

you know you can delete your own posts/images right?

>>17256412
Nsfw boards have a different color background, sfw boards are blue by default.

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>>17256410

What a shit attitude you have man. Completely shit. "He likes cruisers therefore he must be retarded"

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>>17256400
>>17256351
>Pic related
Lets try this again

>>17256416
well a 250cc 1 cylinder 2 stroke engine revving at 10,000 rpm has as many power strokes as a 4 stroke engine revving at 20,000rpm, that is how a 125cc 2 stroke engine produces near the same power as a 500cc 4 stroke engine that revs half as hard.

>>17256387
Buddy I literally told you how the pinlock stops fog in that post. Please re read it.

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>>17256288
>>17256411
Klotz smoke best smoke

>>17256390
>tuned for maximum bottom end
>a heavier crank
I dont think you know how engines work bruh.

>>17256126
My seat is angles forward and always mashes my dick into the tank, squeezing it between my thighs, seat, and tank. It's quite uncomfortable and unstimulating.

>>17256424
That's not my attitude
I ride a vtx1300
I just don't like how he wouldn't take people's advice at first about helmets then came back with "don't talk down on me, I'll have you know I fix bikes all the time" as if it was even relevant

>>17256422

I did, thanks anon!
>>17256423
Sorry about that I don't really use 4chan much but I liked learning what people felt about their sportbikes/adv bikes without biasment which is unfortunately what forums lacked so I came here.

I usually answer mechanic advice posts for cars/trucks in other threads but I like dbts since I'm learning to ride.

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did he died?
i wouldn't mind being friends with him and learning his mechanical autism

>>17256404
>>17256427

Simply having more pwoer strokes does not make it inherently better. Neither does a higher number of revolutions, real or imagined.

A 22,000rpm 4 stroke would not inherently be better than a 11,000rpm 4 stroke for any logical reason. Your comparison is retarded.

>>17256211
No. I think the 690/701 is pretty reliable for a high power thumper but still not close to the underpowered pigs the japs put in their dual sports.

>>17256455
Being a 2stroke makes it better in nearly every way though

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>>17256441

You misread that post anon, it is you who is the retard.. that post was "I don't know fuck all about helmets I just spin wrench"

You goofed.

>>17256465
That's not anywhere close to being true. Especially not for the retarded reasons you stated.

>>17256273
bit with how many rebuilds?

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>>17256466
??

>>17256468
I wasnt the guy you were replying to before, just shitposting my friend

>>17256380
nobody wants to fuck with dropping the engine out of the frame to change a sprocket. The BMW dirt bikes were shit and nobody bought them for a reason.

There's nothing wrong with having a loose chain

>>17256476

"But I'm only starting to"

You got angry before you read all the way. The admittance was that greenhorn was in play. "I know how to work on em, thats my forte but fuck me if I know how to ride em"

You're misunderstanding someone that clunks wrenches is all they weren't trying to say "Well fuck you I know better" but rather "My interaction with bikes is taking them apart and putting em together, I dont know anything about riding"

Misunderstandings is all.

>>17256465
Except for reliability, durability, decent powerband, efficiency, emissions, tune-ability/control over the combustion process, etc.

Literally the only thing meme strokes are better at is making more peak power for a given weight/swept displacement. And even that advantage is dubious with modern 4 strokes.

"Peak power" is important because their power is near unusable in nearly every situation except specific forms of offroad racing, and mainly because lower weight is more important in these types of racing than having a decent power spread.

The last real bastion of the 2 stroke is in specialized offroad racing bikes and in large displacement diesel engines.

The offroad bkes use them specificaly for their higher power to weight but 4 strokes are pretty close.

2 stroke diesels are dying out because they are less efficient and much dirtier than a modern 4 stroke diesel.

>>17256491
Asking someone to stop being a cunt after they give you legit advice is literally like saying fuck you I know better

>>17256490
>nobody wants to fuck with dropping the engine out of the frame to change a sprocket.
except that's not at all what you ahve to do.

If you need to change the front sprocket all you have to do is pull the swingarm pivot. A 15 minute job.

>The BMW dirt bikes were shit and nobody bought them for a reason.
they were actually p.gud they werejust killed by BMW because of the Husqvarna fiasco and BMW refocusing as an on road and "adventure" bike company.

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what's the best dual sport? Trying to get in on that SLIIIIDEEEEE ACTIONNNNNN

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>>17256499
>You're just a cunt and want to look like a badass biker, bro.

Are... are you serious? After shitting that out are you honestly surprised politeness from earlier was not returned with a little bit of sass? Jeezlus.

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>>17256499

Calls someone a cunt.. gets mad when someone asks them to stop being a cunt... FUCKING MILLENIALS

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>>17255783

5 foot 10 inch, 175lbs. 12 inch cock, head chef at arbys.

>>17256507
Anything from japan. They all have their merits.

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>>17256520
>Implying it was me
I just think he should take anons original advice and get a real helmet instead of saying he's "cunty" and asking for real advice

>>17256520
>Millenials
More like the Australians are awake

>>17256493
>Reliabilty
No different than high strung 4strokes (see mx bikes)
>Decent powerband
Someone is a pussy, how can you not like the powerband?
Anyways i was just memeing friend

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LEAVE THE CRUISER RIDERS ALONE

How fucking dare ANYONE out there make fun of cruiser riders after all they have been through! They've lost their SPEED, they've lost their RELIABILITY - they've lost SCORES of fuckin horsepower! The manufacturers turned out to be manipulative, cheating bastards, and now the riders are going through hell just trying to get a little comfort and be patriotic! All you people care about are CHICKEN STRIPS and WHEELIES.

THEY'RE HUMAN BEANS! LEAVE THEM ALONE.

>>17256536

>someone calls you a cunt
>call them cunty
>this_is_bad_.tff

Is this why Islam controls Europe now?

>>17256531
how sketchy is it to ride with knobbies on the street?

>>17256507
Drz or wrr
If maintainance intervals dont matter to you then wr450 or crf450
If they really really really dont matter then cr500 supermoto

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>>17256546

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>>17256544

Typical faux snowflake response, you're Somlian levels of shitbad. You're a nobike trolling on a taiwanese paper folding hypergroup

>>17256395
well, it is a blue board. Then again there was a porn thread over on sp that lasted nearly an hour last night so maybe you'll have another couple of minutes before the ban.

>>17256411
gawt dayum that looks like a fun ride
all the kdx's on cl near me are trashed pieces of shit.

>>17256554
Typical faggot numale response
If you were anymore beta, the devs would just go back to the drawing board.

>>17256549
Your braking distance will be considerably longer and you will have to slow down a bit more for corners. It's not particularly sketchy or scary though. It's just more unpleasant.
They're noisy and rough and wear out fast.
That is assuming you're getting a real knobby. Dual sport tires exist which are perfectly happy on the road.

What kind of riding are you going to be doing? Mostly road with an occasional trail? Mostly trail with an occasional road? Half and half?

>>17256566

>call someone a numale
>ride a metric bike covered in plastic
>GUYS GUYS IM NOT THE FAGGOT HE IS
>stroke off your father
>MMM DADDY GIVE ME THE CUMMIES
>shitpost about chicken strips
>get no grils.gif
>lmao cruisers amirite guise on my membord? right guiSE?

>>17256576
>ride a metric bike covered in plastic
My buell is neither metric nor faired
Be please continue your autistic fit in peace.

>>17256507
WR250R
Lightest and closest to a real modern dirtbike. Wide ratio 6 speed and fuel injected. Good on the highway. Similar power to weight as a DRZ but less torque and a higher strung power band. Dead reliable.

DRZ400S
Heaver than a WRR by about 10% and makes about 12% more power. 5 speed transmission. less smooth but a torquey motor that doesnt like to rev as much. Buzzier on the highway but still capable. Very reliable.

DR650
Heavier still than a DRZ but has a really torquey motor. Shit suspension and shit frame. 5 speed transmission and bzzier on the highway, but better than the DRZ. More comfortable on road than either of the above. Reliable and air cooled so simpler.

KLR650
Heavy and underpowered. Shit frame and suspension but rock like reliability. Large tank and smoothest on the highway. Most comfortable as well.

KTM EXC
Street legal enduro race bikes. lighter than anythign else here and much more maintenence intensive than anything else here. Comes in several displacements.

BETAs
Similar to KTMs but probably better overall.

KTM 690/Husky 701
Overpriced and heavy. Make lots of power. Probably too much for any serious offroad riding unless you like just hauling ass in a straight line.

XR650L
Similar to a DR650 but with a worse motor and much better suspension.

XR650R
Powerful and torquey, reliable but requires more maintenence than most of the other bikes here. Plush suspension and relaxed geometry is meant for hauling ass in the desert. Pretty light for what it is but bad for any luggage mounting. Kick start only.

KLX250S/CRF250L/CRF230
smaller dual sports that make less power than the WR and have worse suspension/chassis than the WR. Some come fuel injected but mainly these bikes are for manlets and women that want to get into dual sporting because they have lower seat heights..

>>17256584
All of these are objectively wrong

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>>17256583

>nobike claims to own a buell
>doesn't post himself on it
>doesn't post it
>doesn't post a timestamped picture
>won't even touch daddies bike with a timestamped piece of paper cause he won't get those nummy daddy cummies

men are talking, go back to whatever containment board you're from

>>17256597
That's all accurate.

Only thing that is wrong is calling the WRR "lightest. I wrote that before I decided to throw in the EXC's and BETAs.

The WRR is the lightest of the 'true' dual sports bt heavier than the street legal race bikes.

If you cannot rebuke the points and just start saying "wrong" you ahve no credibility friend.

>>17256598
>faggot claims he's not a faggot
>literally cannot stop projecting about how his dad face fucks him daily
Still mad mommy didn't make you night time tendies?

>>17256573
probably like 70% road, 30% trails

Idk anon ide say he did a pretty good job and made the post pretty unbiased which is rare on dbt when there is a chance to shitpost about drzs and wrrs

>>17256606
You listed no sources, those are all your opinions. You could have made up all of that.

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>>17256433
>are you trying to imply a lighter crank shaft in a 2 stroke gives more bottom end power?
because it doesnt.

My 300exc makes more torque than most 450cc bikes unless they have been tuned specifically for bottom end power and even in the top end they can not beat it.

Fight me.

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>>17255685
welcome to the cleb pleb

>>17256612
Meant for
>>17256597

>>17256614
>sources
Of course its all opinions retard. There is no source comparing all these bikes. I'm giving the dude advice based on my experience with these bikes.

You can choose to take it seriously or fuck off for all I care.

>>17256621
This is also wrong

>>17256614
unsourced is not the same as wrong
you could have made up >>17256597 by the same measurement

It's a fucking (you) buffet in here

>>17256615
I'm pointing out that having a heavier crank does not have anything to do with shaping the powerband as that anon implied.

>>17256614
>those are all your opinions.
welcome to 4chan faggot, now get out.

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>>17256634
isn't that the truth

>>17256597
They're pretty accurate desu.

Some more things to note:
The CRF250L has a shit tier frame that will snap at the foot pegs if you drop it wrong.

BETAs are alleged to have better reliability than KTMs. The bikes haven't really been out long enough or popular enough to really know for sure. Also heard the plastics are more brittle and tend to break more whereas the other brands just flex and return to normal in a crash.

The DR-Z is actually closer to 30% more powerful than a WR250R. The gearing will be the most limiting factor with this bike if you want to do both really slow single track and freeway riding on the same trip. It can be done but it's going to be annoying in one place or the other.

KTM EXC: Gearing, engine, suspension, weight, pretty much everything is perfect about this bike for dual sporting except for having a shorter service life than the jap dual sports and not as good of a subframe for luggage.

>>17256609
Yeah any of the japs should be fine. I have a DR-Z400S and really like it both on trails and road.

>>17256639
heavier crank means more mass moving at momentum meaning the bike is harder to stall which means more bottom end power so to speak, he which is me really is not wrong at all.

>>17256643
Ive been here longer than you've been touching yourself
>>17256634
You're welcome

>>17256654
More crank inertia is not the same as more bottom end power.

Crank inertia has the same effect at all RPMs.

>>17256654
>>17256639
Technically it doesn't increase the power output. It just makes the power smoother/easier as it comes on and more luggable.

>>17256631
He listed their pros and cons instead of saying something like "drz a shit get a wrr they are 100% perfect"
Also post bike

>>17256662
But a heavier crank spinning at 3000rpm has more inertia than a lighter crank spinning at 3000rpm meaning it takes more force to stop it, IE more toque.

Talk more shit.

>>17256659
>Ive been here longer than you've been touching yourself
Youre a newfag with nothing to contribute to the thread. Anon posted a pretty decent comparison of dual sports for someone and you're doing nothing but shitting up the thread and not contributing anything. Get out.

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Ah!
Finally a happy one for sale near me
if only I had the money~
https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/mcy/6126438825.html

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>>17256608

Your autism will literally not let you get the last word in eh? Ahaha.

>realize an anon has full on autism
>make him reply to every post
>wait for him to pretend to respond as another anon
>hey d-d-d-ifferent anon here bb-b-but
>do metrics cause autism?

>>17256674
also meaning it takes more force to accelerate it

>>17256654
>more rotating mass
>more power
U wut
>>17256671
But he's comparing weight and talking about power in percentages. Trying to sway opinions towards his. Deplorable.

>>17256674
>But a heavier crank spinning at 3000rpm has more inertia than a lighter crank spinning at 3000rpm

The same can be said for 6000rpm and 10000rpm. Crank inertia has nothing to do with bottom end power.

>it takes more force to stop it, IE more toque.
You failed highschool physics didn't you?

>>17256520
No that was me, I called him a cunt and explained everything and he still didn't get it. Fucking generation Y retards.

>>17256667
Exactly it doesnt not increase PEAK POWER, it increases bottom end power.
it is 20nm vs 30nm, are you going to sit here and say two engines that both make 60bhp with the difference being one makes 30nm of torque vs 50nm of torque on the latter engine and say they are the same?

No?
That is what i thought... so why are you doing it now when comparing crank weights?

higher crank weight = less top end power, more bottom end torque.

it is not rocket science.....

>>17256681
>>17256608
>Arguing with yourself
No one else was taking it huh?

>>17256685
>But he's comparing weight and talking about power in percentages.
Using percentages is a logically sound means of comparison anon.

>Trying to sway opinions towards his.
What is "his"?

>>17256694
>higher crank weight = less top end power, more bottom end torque.
>it is not rocket science.....
no, it's basic physics. A higher crank weight doesn't do either of those things.

Sometimes the shitposting makes me want to leave.
Then the Australians go to sleep and it's all okay again.

>>17256694
This to be honest, idk why anyone is even trying to argue this it is basic physics....

>>17256701
>What is "his"?
Bait. It's bait. Stop responding to him.

>>17256703
what do you not understand about a high crank weight taking more to stop?

that is basically the essential thing that defines torque figures...

Is this retarded shit why sport bike riders and harley riders are always at ends when trying to figure out who has the more powerful bike?

Fuck me you pricks are dumb.

>>17256694
>Exactly it doesnt not increase PEAK POWER, it increases bottom end power.
This is wrong. A heavier crank has minimal effect on total power of the system at all. And anyt effect it has is uniform across all RPM. A heavier crank does not in any way increase low end power as claimed.

>two engines that both make 60bhp with the difference being one makes 30nm of torque vs 50nm of torque
A heavier crank does not directly change the torque output of the engine anon. You have no idea what you are saying.

>higher crank weight = less top end power, more bottom end torque.
That is completely wrong. Crank inertia has the same effect across the ref range and increasing crank inertia does not have a increasing effect on power ANYWHERE in the rev range.

>>17256329
Whats wrong with the KLRs frame or suspension? I know the frame is heavy because it is made of heavy duty steel. I don`t know about the suspension though. Also I think the KLR might be one of the only water cooled bikes out of that lot.

>>17256715
Then why is a bike with a heavier crank harder to stall at low rpm?

>>17256685
He is comparing the 2 because they are the 2 main bikes competing with eachother. I dont understand the problem.
Post bike

>>17256714
>what do you not understand about a high crank weight taking more to stop?
A heavier crank requires more power to accelerate and decelerate. This does not effect the engine's power, only how quickly it revs up and down.

>that is basically the essential thing that defines torque figures...
That's wrong.

>Fuck me you pricks are dumb.
You lack a basic grasp on physics. you are in no position to call anyone dumb.

>>17256715
>>17256714
>>17256703
What if we design a crank that's heavy at low rpms, but gets lighter as it goes up?
Literally converting low end torque to horsepower.
Put the patent in my name