2019 Supra

>>17183341
I don't think it's being made to compete with the GTR

yeah I'm hyped
sure V6s sound pretty bad but if it make's good power and performs well that's what matters
looks decent too, getting a snek vibe

>>17183334
toyota should just give up. they're only good at making econoboxes not performance cars
>m-muh 86 dorifto
it's slower than a crysler pacifica lmao

>>17183374
>4 replies, 4 posters
I actually REALLY like your corvette vs gtr and 86btfo posting but Im sincerely asking that you keep it out of this thread for the sake of discussion

>>17183359
Yeah I just hope it's around $40k or less. I'm really not trying to pay C7 prices for a V6

>>17183349
highest trim is rumored to be AWD hybrid
so yea it will compete (and fail)

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>>17183349
I don't think it's made to compete with anything...

>>17183334
Is this supposed to be based off the LC? Will it have a different engine?

no, i think my scion tc could probably out perform it

>>17183404
Yeah twin turbo v6 supposedly. Everything is getting turbos now

>>17183404
A twin turbo V6
from BMW I think
when beemer engines work theyre really good so lets hope some toyota magic can keep it going, I honestly have high hopes for it

is this coming to america even

>>17183399
They haven't implemented a hybrid system to any of the Lexus F sports yet so I highly doubt that

>>17183419
It should, the normiebux will keep it afloat

If I can get
>RWD
>manual
>350+ HP
>liftback

For under 55k after taxes, I'm in. I hope it's an I6 instead of a V6, and if I can't afford the 6cyl turbo, I'd rather get a 6cyl NA over a 4cyl turbo.

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>>17183334

the roof looks liek the top of pepe's head waht the fuck did they do

>>17183414

>bmw engine

LMAO bmw engine? into the trash it goes

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>>17183414
>from BMW I think
wew I thought toyota was all about reliability

>GT86 is ruined by a shit Subaru engine
>not the Mk5 Supra is gonna be ruined by a shit BMW engine

Why the fuck do they do this.

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>>17183437

not anymore!

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Ruined

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>>17183334

>>17183454
Unless I hear that from Toyota themselves it's all speculation at this point

>>17183420
never know
original "rumors" was a new toyota i4 as a base, bmw i6 in the z5 version and turbo v6 in the supra, and finally a hybrid as the supercar number chaser

>>17183334

Yes.

But that is definitely a pre-production headlight design.

>>17183334
HOW IS IT SO TALL? Why?

>>17183398
this, if it looks like that picture then I'll definitely want one, although I'm hoping it'll be at least the price of a V6 mustang. Because then I'll get one, but since it's Toyota and they don't know how to price properly it'll be 60k for barebones

I can't wait for /o/ to complain about how pigfat this Supra is for being roughly 3500lbs, not realizing the 3rd and 4th gens were even worse.

>>17183420
They're using BMW's Engines last I heard.

>>17183497
Nah I seriously doubt they'll sell it at that price. That's the market segment their GT86 is sitting in.

Would you guys rather have a BMW I6 or a Toyota V6? Obviously we all want a Toyota I6 but that seems unlikely.

>>17183485
finally a japanese car that I can fit in
manlets dont deserve everything
>>17183497
itll probably be in that 40k 50k range
>>17183449
>>17183437
do BMW engines get shit with age or miles? Mine's about 10 years old but its got 22 miles

I can't wait to start making money in time for cars getting exciting again
I'm going to lease an 86 mr2 AND a supra

>>17183503
How are they going to cut 800lbs off the LC/LS 500 chassis?

>>17183519
damn you're right, they'll probably sell it at the same price as a M2 then which will be 55k so looks like I'm not getting one anytime soon

>>17183531
>got 22 miles
meant 22k yeah

>>17183524
BMW I6 is fine as long as they don't have their jewish water pumps and other "German Engineering"

This board is such shit.

Just one person mentioned the AWD hybrid system and nobody mentioned the twin turbo V6 that Toyota went and filed a patent for.

Like, holy fuck this board...

>>17183531
You get the stacy's. I get all the nice cars.

>>17183433
>>17183437
The car was jointly developed with BMW to cut down development costs. The twin turbo V6 is from Toyota, a version of the 3.5L 2GR-FE. The Chassis though will be shared with a BMW sister car, called the BMW Z5, obviously replacing the Z4.

>>17183334
No
>no i6
>probably a hybrid to attract the numale cucks
>no cast iron block to handle high hp
>pigfat

>>17183566

That's concept shit dude.

>>17183579
Im still a KHHV man
people say Im too tall and I couldnt even fit in a good as fuck RX-7 deal I came across two weeks ago

>>17183566

>>17183410
>>17183414

>>17183588

And the Supra is a concept car still, since they've yet to reveal it and have yet to say when and where.

Literally NOTHING about the Supra is online besides spy shots and hurrdurrring videos where it sounds like a V6.

>>17183594
>I couldnt even fit in a good as fuck RX-7 deal I came across two weeks ago
Now I feel bad, fuck them get an RX-7. Everyone deserves to fit in one.

Will this come with (working) turn signals? Will people use them?

>>17183585
>muh iron block

There is literally nothing wrong with aluminum blocks. People are getting way more HP (2500+) out of aluminum VR38DETT's than 2JZ's ever have.

>>17183612

Assume so. Toyota and Lexus has yet to nig-nog the signals yet.

Seriously, why the fuck are manufacturers nigging with that shit?

>>17183585
>you
>are
>retarded

So /o/, where do new cars go wrong? You guys always look to them with some much promise and they always fail you.

What does the perfect new Supra look like to you? (keeping in line with emissions and shit)

>>17183626
it must have an inline 6
manual trans
RWD

done

>>17183349
*NISMO GTR

>>17183626

>grand tourer
>RWD
> <3,500 pounds
>Inline 6
>6 speed transmission
>Pays homage to the 2000GT in some way

Bonus:

>can take aftermarket parts to the engine easily
>take massive boostz

That's it.

>>17183641
>inline 6
I6 is my favourite configuration but it's been getting btfo hard recently
I'm hoping it'll have a manual option
it fucking has to be rwd, theres no way this shit is gonna be awd
>>17183626
as long as that TTV6 is making this car put at least 400 (ok 370) at the wheels and its less than 3600 pounds

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>>17183437
BMW makes great engines.

>>17183663
>Renesis won 2 awards
Instantly disqualified.

>>17183677
I've owned a variety of BMWs, and parts aren't that bad. Sure, if you get OEM and go to the dealer, it can get pricey. But my random Mexican guy did a good job on what I didn't do myself, and I never had any issues with non-OEM shit.

>>17183341
>muh 0-60 time

>>17183689
>still paying to fix shit that shouldn't be broken
>having to find a mexican because of the frequency that shit breaks
bmwcucks will defend this

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>>17183334
how can one designer make this and say "hell yeah that looks good let's go into production".
I really miss when sports cars were more subtle and had nice curves.
This thing looks like a pig on testosterone.

>>17183726
I actually think it looks really fuckin good no joke

>>17183726
it's strange but it looks ok

>>17183334
It looks like a regular car had an allergic reaction and swelled up

>>17183334
Don't know shit about the performance, but it's uglier than fuck and nobody's actually going to buy it. They should focus on the MkIV MR2 instead.

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>>17183726
Those pictures were made from the recent spy shots. Chances are that it's not the final design

>>17183663
>GM is on the list
>Nissan isn't
Really fires my neurons

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>>17183433
>Wasting my life on this trash

>>17183402
The Lexus is a luxury landyacht like a S-Class Coupe.

Let this seep into your apparently thick skull already will ya?

its going to be a good car, im seriously calling it

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>>17183805
Ward's is probably a better measure because they exclude cars .that cost >$60K. So you don't get Ferrari winning 17 awards.

New mr2 when

>>17183432
6cyl na would be more expensive and slower than a 4cyl turbo, I can't really imagine them offering one.

>>17183869
do you really wanna see them put the MR2 name on anything with the direction Toyota has been going?

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>>17183896
Yes?

>why won't the auto industry just remake x car with y cylinders in z configuration with w wheel drive and price it for K dollars. That's all I want.

You fucking idiots they actually have to be able to sell cars to real people who have money unlike all of you. That's why nobody's making you a niche car to your specifications for the price of a small hatchback.

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>>17183896
If they have the same attitude with a MKIV MR2 as with the S-FR it'll be just fine. Hell, the same basic design modifying to accommodate an MR configuration wouldn't look half bad.

>>17183924
There is no excuse for the Toyobaru to be as underpowered as it is.

>>17183896
Lfa platform with higher production numbers and obviously a new drivetrain.

Nsx price bracket.

>>17183626
I want it to have an inline 6, if it has a v6, it is DROPPED tier to me.
>>17183924
People were going to put their money where their mouth is when mazda said that there was a chance at the rx-9 to have a rotoray, now look where the rx-9 is, nowhere.

>>17183936
Wat r u talkn bout.

>>17183941
Just because people said they'd buy them doesn't make something a profitable product. The rx9 is still coming and it's still using their skyactiv rotary so Idk what your problem is on that front.

I have a really small penis

>>17183936
86 has plenty of power, mine is faster than my beams mr2 and way more fun. (on the road, I haven't had the 86 on track)

>>17183955
Last I heard was the ceo killed of the rotoray being used, got a link?

>>17183955
>The rx9 is still coming

Should we tell him?

>>17183970
Not that guy but there was some bullshit story about that a while back but it's been confirmed they're still developing the skyactiv-R, no idea about rx9 though.

>>17183938
That's fucking retarded and completely antithetical to what the MR2 was. The MR2 was never in the NSX's price or performance bracket nor should it be. It was an economy sports car. And in what sense would be an "LFA platform" if you have to make it fucking MR, which the LFA is not?

>>17183973
No, he won't want to hear us.

>>17183804
Holy fuck this car IS Pepe!

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>>17183334
This is fake right? The spy shots look all weird

>>17183754
that looks more like a 4th gen with a wedgie than the abomination posted by OP

>>17184039
OPs render is based off of the spy shots and the FT1 concept. I think OPs render is pretty close

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>>17183454
>Toyota hybrid tech
>A bad thing

No, it's their turbos you wanna worry about. But in all honesty it'll be interesting to see what they use, I can guess either a V6 turbo or their 5L V8. If they go V6 Turbo I really wonder if they'll go balls deep and bolt a MGU-H to the engine. Because that would give it quite a bit more power to the hybrid system.

>>17183334
That looks disgusting as fuck

>>17183414
>BMW
>V6
>wut

>>17183334
Is this like that last Supra they never made?

>>17183754
Is it me or is that a Pontiac Sunfire?

>>17183677
Everything is for poor

>>17183334
Yes.
GT86 turned out great hopefully this and mr4 turns out good too

>>17183754
>>17184039
>those headlights
Why toycuck can't compete?

>>17183374
>entire world likes gt86
>countless car of the year awards
>well known they make great race cars
>well known they are incredebly good drivers cars
>well known them being fast is just a wheel and tyreswap away
>10 autistsic busriders on /o/ hate it
>"oh since I've never driven a car I must agree with them since this is the opinion that will get me the most attention"
>>>/n/

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>>17184311
you sound like a poor toyota cuck

>>17184361
>t. never driven an 86
keep believing all those articles

>>17184388
He is probably on a lease, kek.

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>>17184394
They're alright. Not fast that's for sure, but slow cars can be enjoyable. Pic related

>>17183973
Yeah go ahead and link the click bait article where some dumb ass misinterprets the ceo saying "we have no plans to use the rotary as a range extender in a sports car" as "we have no plans to use a rotary in a sports car"

>>17183334
I think Toyota should've worked with ford instead. Basically have the chassis of a Mustang, engine of a Taurus SHO or ecoboost 4 cylinder, and Toyota designs its own shell.

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>>17184422
checked, I agree. I love hearing my shitty 4 banger scream.

>>17184451
Which car

>>17184484
gen 1 rav4

>>17184545
Kek

>>17183334
The fuck? wheres the smile?

>>17184361
And yet it still doesn't sell. Sorry but everyone can love the car, but if it doesn't sell then it's going to get canned.

>>17184614
>Doesn't sell

lol they're almost certainly the best selling enthusiast vehicle here in australia.

>>17184614
Just to add even further to this, a rumored faster version of the gt86 was possible but because the car isn't selling that idea went out the window.

>>17184549
rav4's are underrated af

>>17183334

christ thats ugly, it looks like a viper with fetal alcohol syndrome

>>17184039
There are a bunch of fake body panels on it to hide the shape

>>17183334
Or i could just buy the bmw

>>17183334
Looks like shit. Scrap it and start again

>>17183432
good luck with that 55k after tax.
I am guessing 60 to 70k before dealer mark ups.
last supras were marked up crazy back in the day. dont expect this one to be different

>>17183449
vw does this too. even worse, they literally put speakers into their exhausts to make their diesels sound like non-diesel cars

>nobody has shopped a smug pepe hand onto this shitty abomination's chin

Man you retards can't do anything right.

>>17183533
Not sell it in america

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>>17186022

>toyota making a line up of sports cars
>us manufacturers making great hot hatches and muscle cars
>Renault, Puegeot, Citroen and Vauxhall making great hatches
>BMW making affordable RWD sports sedans
>designers beginning to learn how to make cars strong and light without massive pillars

Are we starting to return to the golden age?

>>17186022
No, that's doing it right.
You fucking frogposting retard.

>>17183334
wow, they made something uglier than the Mk.IV

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>>17183449

>>17183821
I see it as more of a Mercedes SL/911 Targa competitor

>>17186201
kek

>>17183531
This. I hate not being able to fit in cars made for tiny men

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>>17183334
>the absolute state of toyota designs

>>17183804
fucking kek

>>17183931
I just noticed that little hood bump to make room for the engine. THIS is the lengths they were willing to go to make it tiny

God this thing would've been awesome.

>>17184039
God this thing is so fucking ugly

jesus christ

>>17185246
1. In that 60k-70k price bracket that means it would need to compete with the Corvette C7 and their very own RCF (which would he insanely stupid and would guarantee failure and millions of R&D would be thrown down the drain), putting it out of reach for most interested buyers
2. It would make way more sense if they sold it as the middle performance coupe between the 86 and the RCF, which would be the 40k-50k range. That way they tap into a mostly untouched segment and it doesn't interfere with sales of their other sport coupe models. It won't have a true competitor until Nissan comes out with their next iteration of the 300zx using their new TTV6 from the Q60
3. Back then, one of the reasons it was marked up so high was because it was Toyota's best performing high end coupe and their wasn't anything above it in their lineup

>>17188572
Fake body panels to hide shape

>>17188572
>what is a development mule

>>17183334
no, looks like poop

Not really, isn't the engine made by BMW?

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>>17189206
Supra? More like POOPRA AMIRITE?!..heh

>>17183533
since it wont be aimed at the luxury market they can use less sounds deadening, lighter and thinner materials, less random features like heated seats and heated mirrors and stuff like that

>>17183359
>V6

dropped

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>>17183334
>>17184151
The FT1 design is leagues better.

>>17183334
That's what happens when a Lamborghini fucks a Miata

>>17183626
I'd say
>45 to 60k dollars
>300 to ~400hp
>6 cylinder, turbo or NA
>rwd only
>no hybrid bullshit
>under 3500 lbs

Basically make an 86gt for grown ups. Should stomp on the Mustang GT because better handling, lighter, more nimble.

>>17189405
>>300 to ~400hp
>>6 cylinder, turbo or NA
>>rwd only
>>no hybrid bullshit
>>under 3500 lbs
That car already exists and it only costs $30k....

>>17189497
What, the Hyundai or the Ford? They aren't good track cars.

>>17189304
That is fucking disgusting.

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>>17183663
a prestigious award whose winners include cracking designs such as the famous BMW-PSA 1.6l Prince engine