Some people are really dumb

>>16918872
>actually believing our elects guve a shit about anything but profit
Idk how your inbred federals work, but out here in Cali if you don't have money, your opinion is shit and you might as well die.

>>16918872
Because they haven't lived in a glorious Republican state and don't realize it's possible to have schools and police officers without getting taxed out the asshole.

This is from somebody who lived in a blue shithole for 23yrs and then moved to a red state for 5yrs.

Just making sure: when you calculated all this, did you consider that the US gallon is different from the UK gallon?

>>16918872
You left out shipping. Gas on the coast costs less than gas inland. The further inland you go, the more it costs to get it there

>>16918872
In addition, there are two taxes. State and federal

>>16918880
Ayy another Californian

I'm in the Bay Area, Silicon Valley actually.

You pretty much nailed it, only the super rich (liberal) opinions matter, if you do not fit that category you're basically garbage.

Even worse if you are a conservative student.

>>16918900
no because he is a stupid trump cuck

>>16919431
That's pennies if even, on the gallon. Not 40c/gallon difference.

>>16918900
Price comparisons are accurate.

i live in SC with some of the best state taxes in the world. legislators are currently debating whether or not to install a $0.12/gallon tax hike in order to push $200million to fix roads.

stuff like that is worth it.

>>16919501
Tell me more about your hurt feelings.

>>16919501
>Even worse if you are a conservative student.

triggered. Need a safe space bitch?

>>16919624
McMaster will veto that shit.

>>16918872
Try the Netherlands. €1.62 per liter currently.

>>16919501
You can move you know?

>>16918872
i can afford to fill up whenever, so it's not really an issue for me. besdies, fuel is cheap if you consider what it takes to get it out of the ground and to your nearest pump.

>>16919843
That's how I feel when people complain that one place is $2.20/gal and another is $2.40. I live so close to work and don't drive a ton besides that so idc.

But when it starts getting back up near $4/gal+, that's when it gets annoying. I like driving when I go out of town because I don't have to worry about renting or borrowing a car and gas is cheaper than most flights at $2.50, but not at $4.50.

>>16918872
>I have to ask you dumb fucks that live in these West Coast and European communist shitholes: why the fuck won't you elect politicians that will lower your taxes so you can actually afford to drive?
Politicians won't fucking lower taxes, that hurts their bottom line from all their contributers

>oh yea I'm gonna lower taxes that I benefit from
said no one ever

>>16918883
Nobody cares that you moved from a shitty industrial town to a slightly less shitty city, kill yourself you blogging faggot.

You have to pay for entitlements and regulations somehow.

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I live in an LA suburb and it's like 3 bucks for regular over here, all in all that's not great, but not awful either.

It's not really about MPGs here, it's about how much traffic you manage to avoid. It can take two hours to cover 40 miles sometimes, and if that's just straight up stop and go traffic you're probably getting fucking 12 MPG.

God bless the PCH, I don't get why all those commute cucks take the 101 every day

>>16919624
Oh just like NJ did a $.25 tax hike on gas and nothing's changed? Don't fucking agree to it

>>16918872
>why the fuck won't you elect politicians that will lower your taxes
Because we want more administrative assistants, inspectors, and referees. All driving hybrid Explorers.

Recently travelled to Florida from Michigan. It's weird, because in the past, there'd be like a 60 cent dip in Kentucky and Tennessee, but the difference between Michigan and Florida was always around 20 to 30 cents total. This time, big city FL is about the same as Michigan, and there was only about a 20c dip on the roads between the two.

Also, fuck some of those gas stations on 75 in central FL.
>sign says 2.15
>pump says 2.35
>get pissed off as you get back in your car and drive to the next gas station that isn't Joebob and Marie's kuntry gas and tourist T-shirt stand

I mean, I get it, whatever, but really? 20 cents?

>>16920640
I'd get a chebby Volt or something for commuting in driving hell holes like LA, New York, or Toronto

>>16920331
Hey bby

And that's not what happened at all.

>>16920520
+1. Fuck that nonsense.

>>16920696
Exactly how it happens. They just keep taxing more and more in these blue states and shit never really gets any better. The people at the top are lining their pockets tho and the lazy fucks who don't want to work are eating well.

>>16920758
What time of year was it? In the winter, the prices get closer because the North switches to cheaper winter blend and FL doesn't change. In the summer the price difference seems to get bigger.

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>>16920769
Yeah you see a lot of those around here, and even some of those Toyota hydrogen powered cars

There's no need to get a car in NYC or Toronto though, unlike in LA

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>40% gas tax

Thanks Pinochet

Now let's compare the average income of people from bumfuck Oklahoma to those in California

>bbbut the UK is expensive what about them!!!
Yeah the UK is such a great oil producing nation...

People really are stupid op, and you are one of them
Kys

>>16918880
>implying that anyone in OK's opinion actually matters

Electorates hold referendums and then decide "fuck it i'll do what i want" and then pull legislation

>>16918872
>yuropoors
>intelligent

Oh I am laffin OP

>>16919624
IN recently did the same thing. just like every time they say "its for the roads", the roads will almost certainly not get any better.

>>16920814
Two weeks ago, actually. Did it in a Grand Marquis, towing a 5x8 Uhaul. 10/10, would drive again.

>>16920996
Forget what exactly it was for, but I remember a few months ago they were going to hike the cigarette tax too. Love how they still say "This will stop people from smoking!" Really, then why are you pinning such a crucial financial hurdle on the tax?

>>16918872
>Tulsa, OK
who gives a shit, go live there if you think it's so great and like dialup Internet

I'm at €0.98 for Diesel which means I'm paying less per mile than most people in that town and definitely less than most people in America where average mileage is 20 mpg at best.

>>16918900
Fuel is sold in litres in the UK

>>16921313
There's two different types of gallons.

>>16918872
How do you think Europe affords all the (((free))) gibs? But at least there you get something for your taxes, unlike American suckers who pay out the ass so that politicians and their buddies can live the good life.

>>16921321
I know, my post is still correct so it's moot. Read it again maybe.

>ride motorcycle
>socal
>get ~55mpg
>tank is $9 to fill
>sometimes it's $8 or $10, dont really notice or care
>filter past traffic
i dont get why people willingly choose to ride cars when they live in the urban sprawl

>>16921374
>get in minor fender bender
>die

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>live in the communist dictatorship of Chicago for my entire live
>move to Georgia for work
>abundance of new freedom and money is astounding
>only downside is far too many niggers in Atlanta

At least I live In a rich part of town

>>16921374
>friend lives in St. Petersburg FL
>riding his bike down 66th, lefthand lane because he's turning on the next block
>driver in right-hand lane decides to turn left with no signal
>driver has no insurance, no license, two DUI's and no job
>friend loses bike and now his hand is messed up, probably permanently
>insurance plays games for better part of two months, finally pay him NADA value for his bike (about $500 less than they actually sell for)
That's why.

>>16921372
He asked OP if he was using the correct gallon for his price breakdown. If OP was using the Imperial gallon while not realizing that a US gallon is actually smaller it would skew the prices. The difference is 20% so yeah it's kind of important.

>>16918872
> thinks petrol magically arrives at the pump

In Auckland, NZ
You can post something half way across the country for cheaper than across the CBD

Transport costs money

Tulsan here. Our education system is completely in the shitter.

But at least gas is cheap, r-right?

>>16919431
I live in the midwest and our gas prices are cheaper than Cali.

>>16918900
That's why he converted to liters you stupid namefag.

>>16921065
Here's something hilarious for your. CHIP, which helps low income families get healthcare for their kids, is funded by taxes on tobacco products. They're about to run out of money because too many people aren't smoking. And, IIRC, majority of people who quit smoking recently cited the rising cost of cigarettes as their reason why.

>>16921467
I'd blame Department of Education and teachers unions t b h. Mother got a better education than I did and she went to school in a one room school house.

>cokplaining about gas prices

Why not just stop being poor OP???

>>16918872
Why?
You could walk from Rome to Paris in a day. Europe is small.

>>16921668
You mean drive? It's like 600 miles mang

Gas is cheap in the US? Isnt that the same country that has a 2 trillion dollar renovation deficit in its road network because of insufficient taxes? Cant hear you over the sound of my butter smooth Autobahn.

>>16921389
Pretty much what happened to me, except no state income tax in FL so I get to keep even more of my money.

You don't realize how bad it is until you go somewhere more red. Then you quickly see why Chicago is struggling so bad and big companies don't want to open HQs and offices there.

>>16922026
Varies by state too. That kinda causes a clusterfuck. Some states are terrible with their money and don't want to spend on shit without some help from the feds and they aren't managing their shit right either.

>>16921394
Fuck that, Jesus I live in Orlando I see that shit

>>16922026
I do envy the nice roads in Germany, I shouldn't have bought a German car in the US it's pretty obvious they're built for German roads

>>16922073
FL is the #1 state for motorcycle deaths. Too many batshit crazy drivers. Down here, it's all either foreigners who drive like it's a 3rd world country, old people who shouldn't be on the road, tourists with no clue where they are going, and impatient cunts from New York and shit who drive like complete dicks.

That's why I like driving the semi truck around. Gotta be careful because of other people on the road but at the same time when somebody blows a red light and t-bones me, they won't be walking away from the accident and I will.

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>>16922066
States get their taxes one way or another, even those without income taxes or sales taxes.

>>16922169
Yeah there are a few things that cost more here like anything at the DMV is more expensive than IL. But I would rather pay $50 more for my plates on a new car and not get that extra state tax taken from my paycheck every week.

>>16921999
>he doesn't walk at 50mph

>>16922026
something something enjoy your immigrants.

>>16922225
t. Tyrone Hernandez Wong

>>16918872
>Pay smaller proportion of income for nationalised healthcare
>Guaranteed coverage for anything, everywhere, ever, without quibble
>Don't need to drive 100 miles to get to anywhere useful, and our public transport actually exists as anything other than a joke
I can easily afford to fill up at the current costs, and I sure as hell wouldn't trade slightly cheaper fuel prices for the shitshow the US calls a government. You guys get nickel-and-dimed with county, state, federal etc taxes on everything, split up between a million different charges tacked onto bills rather than just putting the fucking bottom line figure as the bottom line figure at the start. You end up paying pretty much the exact same amount at the end of it all, but your government services are shit.

>>16922237
>state, federal etc taxes on everything
False. Depends on the state. There is no federal sales tax for instance but I have a sales tax, I pay federal income tax but not state income tax.

>>16922237
>You end up paying pretty much the exact same amount at the end of it all
Also false

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>>16920640
>Not getting a motorcycle to lane split while saving MPGs

>>16922237
He's got a point you know. I'd rather paid that extra 80 pence a litre of petrol for my car with its microscopic engine. Our NHS maybe stretched to its seams but, at least, I ain't paying $30,000 exc. parts and labour get my broken arm fixed. It's why I pay taxes

>be American
>pay taxes anyway
>THEY'RE TOO DAMN HIGH
>still have to pay individually more and more often for privated toll roads because the government can't afford to maintain the roads anymore thanks to your tax allergy
>the private toll roads are in an even worse condition than the awful public roads because often they're the only viable route, for example in case of bridges
gg no re

>>16919708
>safe space for conservatives
>implying
All he was saying is that if you so much as suggest that there might be an alternative to socialism in College everyone looks at you like you just slaughtered a human in front of them. Then these socialists get out into the real world and realize people don't give a shit about their feelings, they just want them to do the work they are paid to do and shut up.

>>16922263
Nigger that shit isn't real. We don't have privatized toll roads, and the only awful toll roads are in cities, which are ALWAYS AWFUL AND ALWAYS HAVE HIGH TAXES. Even your precious yurop cities are awful if you want to drive. Cities are not suitable for driving.

>>16921065
The government doesn't want to stop people from smoking or they'd just put harsh regulations on the companies. Instead they just want to see how much the tobacco addicts are willing to fork over for their fix. More tax=more revenue for the gummit.

>>16922289
At least in European cities I don't have to drive.

>>16922292
>At least in European cities I don't have to drive.
Nigger you don't have to drive in major american cities either you stupid retard fuck. Maybe you should travel a bit and actually experience the world before you shoot your mouth off about places you've never even seen outside of a movie sweetie.

>>16922289
There are a few private toll roads in the United States, thankfully not many.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_highways_in_the_United_States

>>16922297
I have. American cities are god awful for public transport outside of New York City, also every trip already takes forever simply due to the sheer distance across your puked out twenty mile radius of suburbs.

>>16922311
>American cities are god awful for public transport outside of New York City
Wow I can tell you've never been to a major city outside of NYC. Public transportation is always shit, no matter where you are; that's the fact of living in the city. But, you can get where you need to go in pretty much any major city without a car. MILLIONS of people do it every single day.

>lso every trip already takes forever simply due to the sheer distance across your puked out twenty mile radius of suburbs.
Public transportation have nothing to do with suburbs retard. Doesn't matter where in the world you go, once you get outside of major cities you're going to have to either drive or take a cab to get home.

>>16920846
You definitely need one in Toronto due to how much our mass transit system blows, on top of the city being so spread out.
Doesn't help that the weather suck's 5 months out of the year.

>>16922311
>complaining that you can't ride the bus
>on /o/
>>>/out/

Also
>Complaining that too many Americans own their own houses instead of living in Russian style apartment cities like the yuropoors
Quite the kek Famirino.

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>>16922330
>driving in toronto
God I hate 401 East/West and the Don Valley Parkway

From hotel to my customer is only 10km mostly highway and it still takes me 20-25 minutes to get to work on a good day

>>16922336
>own their own houses
https://www.federalreserve.gov/econresdata/releases/mortoutstand/current.htm

>>16919798
This. Though I only get fuel at Fieten Olie or at the Tango next to my uni. I filled up my bike for 1.47 per liter.

>>16918872
But I CAN afford to drive, and like poor people not being able to afford to, because they're usually shitty drivers and don't maintain their cars.

Wages reflect cost of living, as well.

>tfw northeast Colorado mater race
>tfw cheap gas because of oil boom in weld county
>tfw gas will dip farther if Trump puts enough pressure on the EPA to let us build a refinery

EPA seriously needs to fuck off and let us build this refinery though, we'll be independent from Saudi Arabia if we can get this shit refined.

>>16922026
I've driven on the autobahn (from Karlsruhe to Stuttgart) I swear to you there was a separate construction project every 10km. To the credit of German drivers, traffic was still flowing well.

>>16921403
FUEL IS SOLD IN LITRES IN THE UK
It's X pence per LITRE not per any gallon
Nobody in the UK would know how much their fuel costs per gallon without breaking out the calculator

So it's moot

>>16920758
Florida cunt here. They do that because the sign is advertising the ~~~~CASH PRICE~~~~ or ~~~~~MEMBERSHIP REWARDS CARD PRICE~~~~ not the actual credit/debit rate. It's bullshit.

>>16923104
If you convert an american gallon to liters using the Imperial measurment of a gallon, it's incorrect because an American gallon is smaller.

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>european communist shitholes
Ok, have fun being jewed by mr shekelstein from the insurance company.

>>16923304
Ameridumb spotted

>>16923169
Glad to be back in the sunshine state. I don't care if it's a tourist honeypot, I love St. Pete.

>FL meetup when??

>>16923313
Jokes on you, I'm not. :^)

Here in the UK fuel is used as just another form of income tax. None of the UK political parties have shown any desire to reduce tax income by offering relief to drivers.

Not only does fuel tax directly raise money from fuel sales, also indirectly as it drives up the cost of delivering VATable goods, an increse that is passed onto the end consumer.

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>>16921313
>>16921639
>That's why he converted to liters you stupid namefag.

OP's sentence was:
>Yet in London, it's $5.79 gallon, or £1.22 per liter, or €1.41 per liter.

I have never lived in England, I don't know in which units each other country sells their fuel - I did know offhand that US gallons are a unique size. Since he opened his statement with gallons I assumed that was his starting point and not the calculated value (most people end with the calculated value).

>I now have a right to call you "stupid anon" for assuming things about my question then calling me stupid.

Stupid anon piece of human garbage.

>>16922228
t. Mohamed M. Mohamed

>>16921639
>CHIP, which helps low income families get healthcare for their kids, is funded by taxes on tobacco products. They're about to run out of money because too many people aren't smoking.

>it's impossible to fund healthcare for low income families with anything other than tobacco taxes
>200 dollars from tobacco tax goes to a school, and the school receives 200 less from other sources
>this is somehow a good thing

Gee, I wonder where all those tax dollars are going?
http://nordic.businessinsider.com/us-ally-used-3-million-dollar-patriot-missile-to-shoot-down-a-200-dollar-drone-2017-3/

>>16923935
The military spending is ridiculous, but I honestly don't mind that. I'm pretty sure they are building those $3mil missiles in the US. At least I hope they are.

The fucking low income families having more and more kids, do something about them. And all the people who worked for the gov't for a few years making $40k/yr and somehow retired at 55 with a $120k/yr paycheck for the next 30 years until they die.

>>16921639
Fellow Okie fag. It's a statewide issue at this point. We have no fucking money for our schools right now.

>>16923935
>impossible to fund CHIP
Yes actually. They assumed we'd have the budget figured out to keep it funded, but it turns out welfare programs are budgetary black holes.

Also
>muh military industrial complex
Military spending, including for stuff like missiles, makes up about 1/3 of the discretionary budget. The discretionary budget is about 1/4 of the entire gov't budget. Much more goes to welfare programs of questionable use and effectiveness. Now .mil spending isn't perfect, but it's pretty damn small compared to some of the other shit we spend money on.

>>16924592
Once upon a time I was in Oki, but never okie. There are better states in the US.

>>16918872
>The average price of gas in Tulsa, OK is $1.89 per gallon.

Currently $2.09 in Fort Worth, TX. Small price to pay for not living in the literal redneck shit hole where I was born, known as Tulsa, OK.

Sorry if you live there OP, but it's pretty fucking ghetto and redneck. I went back to visit the first house I lived in recently and fuck me tender, I am so glad my parents moved to DFW 23 years ago.

>>16919544
> being this retarded

The unit measured was liters you fucking retard. kys

>>16922324
autism

>>16922026
>US raise taxes
>Services doesn't get better

Something happened about 40 years ago that made it no matter how much you pour money in public services you will not get any increase in quality.

test

>>16923346
And yet, the current government has stopped the fuel tax escalator put in by Labour to price everyone out of low-paid jobs.

>>16923295
Unless he converted from imperial gallons to liters. That's the default conversion on Google if you're in Burgerland.

>>16926520
Reagan?

>raise taxes
>don't improve services
>SEE WE TOLD YOU RAISING TAXES WOULDN'T DO A THING
>LET NEOLIBERALISM REIGN FREE

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>>16918872
>I have to ask you dumb fucks that live in these West Coast and European communist shitholes: why the fuck won't you elect politicians that will lower your taxes so you can actually afford to drive?

Because Europe is infested with the most leftist scum on the face of this planet. The U.S. is too, but the U.S. is large as FUCK and there is more independence in general (red states, blue states). In Europe anything that deviates from the usual leftist bullshit is considered literally Hitler-tier. It's irreversable. Everything here is so dependant on government funding that the government literally can't get away with stealing a little less of our wealth.