/ORG/ - Off Road General

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>>16901300
>ARB bumpers
yiss

>>16901300
I just wanted someone to notice the cool kitty that decided to hang around in my garage: edition.

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>>16901300
Dedicating thread to Anon's shop cat. Get a good night's sleep little buddy.

>>16901300
I thought that was a 4runner with a broken ball joint out of the corner of my eye, so used to seeing those so it's what comes to mind first.

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>>16901300
>tayburb
i already told you people:
Tayconderoga confirmed!!

>Onset of spring, no more S N O W R O L L I N G
nunavut /ORG/ meet when? ):

>>16901440
Thanks a bunch! He's really cool as shit, no idea why he chose me. But him and off-roading came to me at the same time so it must be something. Maybe I'll take him on the trail with me tomorrow. I know doggos are good, but anyone every wheel with a cat?

>>16901566
No idea. But I've wheeled with a snake before. Cats should be fine but just make sure they're alert the whole time.
(and no. that's not a taytay joke. i've legit put a cornsnake on the dashboard whilst driving)

Also maybe don't do too much technical stuff since you don't want them to jump on your lap suddenly when you're balanced on a trying to operate the clutch at the right point.

>>16901587
I really don't get the correlation between a snake and a pop star, so I wouldn't mistake them.
And the trail is pretty technical, so maybe not a good idea. But no clutch worries, I wheel auto. I'm a little interested in why you ended up with a snake on your dash though.

I'm drunk and hungry, with a kitchen full of unhealthy dad food. What do I eat to prepare for wheeling tomorrow?

>>16901892
BBQ bacon cheeseburger with cheddar and pepper jack.

>>16901897
On it. Let's hope I can do so without causing a house fire. I've been at it for more than a decade though, so risk is low. Thanks for deciding for be.

>>16901928
Make sure you wash it down with a Sprite.

>>16901942
Or a Miller Lite.

>>16901928
Be careful. It's not worth doing if it's not worth doing right.

>>16901300

Any help here? Looking to get this project finished up quick. Supposed to be going camping in a fortnight.

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>>16901897
Okay second question, hot BBQ or sweet?

>>16902005
That's a tough one but I'm probably go hot.

>>16901928
Get pictures.

>>16902018
Hot it is. I'm not even going to remember this burger, but it's going to be great. Sorry for off topic, but it's all leading up to wheeling tomorrow.

>>16902039
Any updates? Please don't burn your house down BLG.

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>>16902139
Bls blue land cruiser guy.

Bls no kill.

>>16901300
>Most of /ORG/ is oblivious

>>16902178
>two door tahoe
>escalade

>>16902383
Deeper.

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>>16902415
i'm trying. but i'm way too drunk for this shit.

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>>16901621
Uh - it's a weird normie thing, unfortunately.

Anyway, the snake was because it was a hot day and we wanted her to get some sun shine. So we did a few s l o w r o l l around the block and took it off the road down the technical service roads. She spread out all over the dashboard and loved it. Might've been a bit too rough near the end when she curled back into a ball.

How's the kot?
it a cute

>>16902436
N O T O Y O T A S
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Whew! Thank God Tayconderoga is a Lexus.

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Anyone else doing any wheeling this weekend? Going out tomorrow with my photography bro so hopefully he will supply me with gratuitous flex shots and artsy photos of my heep.

>>16901488
>Tayconderoga confirmed!!
aww yiss!
>>16901967
Lock-Rite lockers are fantastic even before you take price into account. Just make sure if you're installing on the front that you have some sort of free-wheeling hub system to disengage the axles.
Don't know anything about Treadwright tires but a lot of people locally here are running different Chinese branded 10 ply tires like "Lakesea" to great success. Only complaint about them is they don't last as long as American branded tires (fine if they're offroad only on a second set of wheels).

>>16902139
It was pretty damn good, mixed the sweet and hot BBQ, burnt the bacon as little bit, then passed out a minute. Please don't ever accuse me of wheeling a Toyota again.

>>16902679
Wrap the bacon up in aluminum foil and throw it in the oven.

Cooks it evenly so you don't crisp the lean before the fat starts to firm up and holds in just enough moisture to keep it soft without being greasy.

Post ur rig

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>>16902603
M8 we need to go wheeling one of these days. Where do you go?

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>>16902424

Okay, I'm done for the night.

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>>16902720
I usually put bacon in the oven but I wanted to watch both meats so I did dueling skillets. It was only a little burned. Don't have many pics but here is the after shit from last weekend.

>>16902727
Going to valley of the moon trail off the 8 by the Jacumba hot springs. Actually pretty close to you cause you live in lakeside right? It's a "2wd" rated trail but the way I went last time had a gate keeper obstacle that I had to pull 2 unlocked 4wd's up. And I'm only going again to explore the parts we didn't do last time. Though I would actually be down to meet up in the next coming weeks before the season is over to do a run together. I wouldn't mind pulling you up some obstacles if you don't get a rear locker by then lmao

>>16902758
hey blue land cruiser guy

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>>16902799
I've always had a locker tho

But yeh tomorrow and next weekend is a no-go, but this week's spring break so any day but Wednesday works if y'all want to go during the week

>>16902818
Thats a jeep?
Can someone please explain this retarded meme?

>>16902869
It's a Jeep thing, you wouldn't understand.

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>>16902844
Haha I thought you were open. Well we can plan a trail and date,weekends work best for me because i'm gonna be working most of the week days over my break, and I already have a trip planned for sunday, april 9th I think it is, which will be on cleghorn trail. So yeah, let me know haha.

>>16902869
The fact that we're anonymous makes it hard to keep track of people's vehicles and often leads us to guessing who people are when they post. Then we misgender them and it becomes a meme. Especially when three people owned yellow YJs at one time. A guy who owns some land cruiser always drunkposts and posts the exact same memes over and over again so /ORG/ thought it was him posting that.

>>16902888
Haha nice trips. Thanks haha.

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>>16902888
Also it's a long shot but if Mondays are ever free, I don't have class until 7pm

Otherwise I have Fridays off for sure, but weekends are either full of work or family stuff.

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>>16902928
ye, better to be safe than sorry and just plan for days you have the whole day off, gotta account for trail breaks or any dumb shenanigans that might happen.

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>>16902958
seconded.

>>16902958
Looks fixable.
Notice the windshield not cracked, that means no shell distortion there.
Wheels seem straight, does not look deep enough to force the engine back.

I bet some Mexican bought that up, threw a front clip and a radiator on it, and sold it for a 200% profit.

I'd call /ORG/ series good and dead at this point

>>16903004
are you calling it
... a night?

>>16903004
She's still breathing alright.

>>16903019
>>16903043

I'm more so referring to the Suburban/GM shitposters. I've been a casual observer/sometime participant and there used to be a) a lot more variety of posters/vehicles and b) much more interesting discussion and debate.

>>16903061
Maybe you should talk about /ORG/ stuff rather than complaining about GM. Will the thread be more interesting? It might.

>>16903077

Lost cause friendo, it's been tried.

>>16903094
Try it again tonight, it's the only way out of this plight.

>>16903061
What are you talking about? /ORG/ used to be a bunch of underage kids dicksucking Unimogs, Land Cruisers, and Range Rovers. Did you prefer it that way? To me that doesn't sound right.

>>16901350

ARB Bumpers are great but for the price I'll probably end up just building my own. Does anyone know if I can get my hands on those fog light pockets without buying a bumper?

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>>16898466
>Burbalade requesting pic of aux alternator mounting area

Here's a pic of what I'm talking about. Forgive the poor lighting on living in the eternal darkness of 3rd shift.

Highlighted in yellow is the bracket housing the dead pulley. It is just bolted atop the motor. I figure I can gab up a custom holder, or get something to hold an alternator in place in the spot when the time comes...

>>16901488
Congrats!!!!! Is the dual battery setup still planned? I'll supply the founders.

>>16902436
Not again :-\


Not included in pic are several wires taped off and covered in sliced hoses, making me thing another alternator was originally there.

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>>16903325
>Does anyone know if I can get my hands on those fog light pockets without buying a bumper?
You certainly can. eBay, and they're a pretty generic size. I'll have a look.
100% with you in terms of outlay buying a new one. I don't think I'd ever buy one that wasn't either second hand (there's usually a fair few in floating around in Aus) or was on the car I bought to begin with.
Thing I like about the ARB bars is a combination of OEM appearance, fantastic clearance and they seem to be the most impervious to our harsh corrugations.
>>16903400
Definitely an alternator. Do you know what sort of amperage your current alternator has? If it's anywhere near 100ish Amp I probably wouldn't bother fitting a second one unless you could do so without spending anything.

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>>16903325
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ARB-LED-Fog-Light-Replacement-Kit-/142161591917?hash=item21197dbe6d:g:-roAAOSwB09YEQ33
Just the first example I came across.

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Finally got the 4runner sitting on its new axle today.

It's a little higher than I hoped, but I'm going to let the springs sit a couple weeks before I start mocking up steering and brakes

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>>16903443

Needs a bit of work yet. Have to tear the axle down again because my upper knuckle ball gussets hit my wiper seals before I get to full lock and I don't want to shred them because they were 80$....

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>>16903448
Presuming it's a Toyota 8"?

>>16903453
Yup, kept it nice and simple. Running '88 rear leafs up front to push the axle forward

>>16903499
I'd keep the same axle too. I'd probably simplify it even further by simply adapting N60 springs or the front end of one of the Aussie N100 Hiluxs including steering, but you'd end up with a more desirable result (fleks). What sort of steering are you going with?

>>16903436
>100amps will be fine

But... But... what about muh 110v electrical system, radios, lights, air compressor, and overkill AC unit I mentioned in the last thread?

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>>16903755
What sort of wattage is the inverter? And what sort of amperage does the aircon unit draw?
I think the best thing would be getting one or two decent amp/hour deep cycle batteries and reserving the overhead aircon unit for plug-in power. Keep in mind 2 way radios draw next to nothing, one of those 60mm "160L/min" compressors draw up to around 30amp on startup and a large 100ish litre 12v fridge draws up to 5amp on startup (maintains about 2-3amp).
What sort of alternator have you currently got?

>>16903755
Also, the ability to start the overhead aircon unit will have more to do with the battery's cold cranking amp output. I'd bet the second alternator powered a separate bank of batteries in parallel to achieve such a rating. The alternator amp rating is only relevant to maintaining charge as the way I understand it.
Is that aircon even a 12v and not a 24v? Might pay to check the model of the unit and see its requirements.

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>>16903819
>>16903852
Keep in mind this is going to be an overlanding truck further down the road, and the plans are constantly evolving at the moment.

For now I would like something that can power an entire campsite (as a backup in case of generator failure). I would also like the ability to use a welder and power tools if the need arises.

The truck has a 110v electrical system hardwired in, along with a 50a shore power hookup. The only thing missing is the inverter.

The AC unit runs off of 110v. I tried plugging it into an extension cord running to the house but it blew the 15a fuse without even trying. That means I'm looking at a draw of at least 130a from the alternator.

...and the alternator I currently have in is rated for 100a IIRC. I want to boost it up, but I'm not sure if I want a single high output or 2 decent outputs.

...and don't get me started on batteries haha. Like I said, the plans are constantly evolving as I do more and more research.

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>>16904000
Although I'm starting to wonder if an aircon unit with the sort of capacity that requires that kind of draw is relevant for the kind of space relative to a large wagon... A reasonable size motorhome maybe, but I'm doubtful you'll get practical use out of it.
The only reasonable circumstance I can see that being used is sleeping in a hot environment where you'd probably have an external genset running it as opposed to having your truck idling all night.

I guess for an Ambulance they needed the capacity to keep the interior temp constant whilst having doors open fairly often during operation.

In the end though, it doesn't hurt to have the redundancy of a second charging unit either, especially if there's already provisions for one to be fitted. And there's no such thing as too much charging capacity either... I'm currently mulling over my 12V power storage options at the moment.

I can't wait to get another Cherokee, damn I miss my old jeep.
Now that I'm learning 5 speed I can get me a 2 door 4x4 5 speed when I find one.

Any jeepfags here?

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>>16902910
>did someone say shitposting and memeing?

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>>16904178
no. go away.

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Broke the TJ's trail virginity yesterday, felt pretty good, only high centered once on a big ass rock I shouldn't have tried being stock and all, she did good though

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>>16904202
would you just buy that lx already
i mean pls

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>>16904203
Also seen this fuckin guy. Apologies on the sideways pics. Phone is being a cunt

>>16903436
>>16903325
My question is if ARB bumpers are any "safer" than standard fab. bumpers or any. The best part would be if you could get a bumper than can resist forces up to a small tree without breaking but have an exponentially weaker front allowing for more of a "crumple zone" as force multiplies.

I found that out when the mazda cucc crashed into muh Taynger and there's actually a degree of bend in the sides of the front bumper. But the main thing is that underneath it, the fab designed the bumper to bend into the frame connexions so that it adds like 5 cm more of a crumble zone. The only down side is that if I hit a deer, it could go right through the windshield.

Now that I'm getting a Land Cruisey, I'll be looking into the front bumper first for sure. Maybe I'll get that steel plate/ step like they have on the FJ40. Those look cool.

>>16904214
What are those wheels? Looks sweet.

>>16904210
Don't tell me what to do.
I already got it.
But not because you told me to.

I'm picking it up Thursday after work somehow. It's like a 1.5 hr drive away and I guess I'll have to take the train or something.

>>16904210
Oh I think GuYJ was looking to buy the same cooler - how is it?

>>16904230
I have no clue, didn't really look to hard at the wheels, thing was decked out from head to toe though, guy said he was a photographer for a local offroad shop so I'm sure he got most of it free. Might be from AllSeasons4x4 since the jeep with him also had a fuck ton of work done to it and they worked together.

>>16904218
>Now that I'm getting a Land Cruisey, I'll be looking into the front bumper first for sure
what are you leaning towards so far? that is going to be my next purchase as well.

main ones im considering are the slee shortbus, arb deluxe and the dobinson 80 series front.

imo the arb looks the best and is the most classic but it has a few shortcomings: incredibly shitty recovery points, not exactly a great approach angle.
the slee shortbus is incredibly stout, has a better approach angle and recovery points but doesnt offer that much protection against deer
the dobinson is kind of newer to the NA market but a lot of people are saying that it is a lot stouter than the arb and looks almost the same

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>>16904230
no way thats so awesome!!
here is my drawer/sleeping platform system finally finished. there is so much more room for sleeping now that the area is above the wheel wells

>>16904234
i think he may have asked me in the last thread, if that was the same guy at least.
its pretty awesome to be entirely honest. it keeps ice for nearly a week if you pay attention. ive never camped with a yeti but ive compared mine side by side with one and it seemed nearly identical.

>>16904218
I'll have to take a couple of pictures tomorrow. I have two vehicles of differing vintages, both happen to have by dumb luck ARB bullbars. The older one is sleeved hard over the chassis and straight bolted, but the later airbag compatible bar from memory has a concertina crumple fixing point. Both are rated for winching.
Hopefully I don't get to test their rating.

Not 100% but I'd imagine the J80 Cruiser bullbar would mount like the former.

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Scout anon here. I lost my turn signals. If they aren't flashing in the interior on the dashboard or anything, does that sound like a fuse to you guys? Or is it something in the column maybe?

>>16904309
bost your lexus

>>16904246
Yeah. That's how most people are with decked out Jeeps newer than 5 years. Good for him being a photographer and making enough money like that, though.
In anyway, I probably wouldn't ever need the rock rims like that but they sure do look nice.

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>>16904253
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-other-auto-parts-and-accessories/markham-york-region/toyota-land-cruiser-90-97-arb-bumper-with-warn-9-5-xp-winch/1248657790?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
>$2500 dollar winch
Uh. Literally why.

Something similar to this but honestly, a $1200 base cost fabricated bumper would probably suffice for the price. Something like I already have. then the added safety bonus is always a plus (especially since they're cheaper than ARBs)

The problem with ARB here is that they have an import and conversion fee that ends up making me pay 10-25% more than a US bought one. I might as well just drive down to buffalo or (((detroit))) to save me money at this point.

>>16904300
>land cruiser bullbar
why would you do this. are you looking to buy the two you requested or do you already have one and just want to transplant the bumpie?

>>16904344
lol thats slightly more than what that bar + winch would cost new. is that faggot serious?

>>16904359
wat. the winch is like $2000 new.

>>16904375
that winch is $1500 new. the arb bull bar is like $900. youd save $100 if you bought both brand new.

then again maybe we have some canabucks exchange rate thing going on, im using US pricing

>>16904449
Holy shit they're only $990 in the states?!
http://store.arbusa.com/ARB-Deluxe-Bar-Toyota-Land-Cruiser-80-Series-90-97-Lexus-LX450-96-97-3411050-P3280.aspx

I was looking at some similar models here and they were going for around $1750. I also like to go to the offroad stores to see their ridiculous pricing and to talk to the salesmen there for fun. Those "custom" bumpers (which are the same as the regular arb accessories) are like $2500. After conversion, that's exactly twice the price that those stores give me.

>>16904482
lol yeah, ive seen them for $900 even as well if you look around. $1750 is completely absurd. look at slee, tjm, ironman and dobinson. im not sure what you can get on the canamarket but theres no way i would ever spend more than $1k on a front bumper unless it was fully custom exactly what i want.

call kurt at cruiser outfitters and ask him what it would cost to ship you one. i guarantee even with shipping youd be no where near $1750.

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>>16904493
also if anyone has any cool dinner meal ideas pls post up.
my wife and i are leaving for our 12 day trip in less than 2 weeks and are working on the menu right now.
so far we have pretty basic stuff - sausages and peppers/onions, chicken tacos, burgers, this texmex chicken white bean foil packet thing she always makes, beef/potato foil packets.
breakfast will always be either protein pancakes, or bacon/eggs and lunch will prob just be sandwiches or whatever.

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>>16904538
I carry a 6 pack of Cod Liver in Taynger since they never go bad (-20 to +40 C) so I can just keep them in the back seats all year round. Fat reserves are great for the Canadian winter, too.

As for things that actually taste good, bison, venison, or other game meat store longer than traditional pork or beef. Eat those on the tail end of a two-weeker. Same thing with potatoes and beans.

Hard to give any recommendations on food when we don't know who and where you are, though. So other than autistic, utilitarian food recommendations like cod liver and spam, I don't have any other ideas :^(

>>16904493
That's good to know. The NA Ranger also takes 60 or 80 series snorkels so I wonder if they'd give me a small discount if I were to buy two 80 series snorkels and two bumpers (one front and one back).

Do they come pre-painted? If so, I might just get these over the fabricated bumper that I would have to paint myself.

Though, the other point on painting is that I do want to try my hand at titanium electroplating. It hasn't been done before to my knowledge and it'd be a very, very nice method to "rustproof" your bumper in the Onterrible salt conditions.

Anyway, I'll send over and email right now and see what shipping would be.
>check out location
>pleasebeeastcoastpleasebeeastcoastpleasebeeastcoastpleasebeeastcoastpleasebeeastcoastpleasebeeastcoastpleasebeeastcoast
>UTAH
haha fucking RIP haha.

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>>16904210
What kind of tent is that?

>>16904538
>tfw no qt waifu to make me delicious camp delicacies

>>16904565
thats ok i like autism <3
but good thinking with the venison i forgot i have some of that in the basement right now

i wouldnt be surprised if they worked with you for a discount if you ordered that much shit. personally i hate the arb rear 80 series bumper though it looks so fat and bloated. slee makes by far the best 80 series rear, 4x4 labs is pretty cool though too and the swingouts are modular which is awesome.
but to answer your question, yes the arb bumpers come powder coated to your doorstep. i think most bumpers do nowadays.
idk what titanium electroplating even is but sounds p cool.

there are a few more vendors for 80 series stuff that are east coast located. if you want me to send you a few links i can

>>16904578
its a dac medium truck tent. ive really liked it so far. makes sleeping in the back that much better since now the tailgate can be open

>>16904615
Theoretically, I can dissolve a layer of titanium with acid and plate the titanium pure onto any bare metal surface of my choosing. So I could coat the bumper with a thin (50-100 micrometre) layer of titanium that will never "rust". I'm at work now and bored so I just come up with these (((autistic))) ideas. But I guess that's how inventions are made. Who knows. Maybe it'll work out so well I'll open a specialty vehicle electroplating business.

Anyway, venison is great shit. I've accidentally left a raw slab of it out for 36 hours once without it going "bad" (did have to cook it a bit rarer than I'd like, though).

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>>16902958
Yeah I agree.

So probably a Friday or something if you can get the day off. If y'all want to get ahold of me you can probably just message me on discordé or something.

>>16904202
>not shitposting constantly

>>16904210
Is this Blue Land Cruiser guy or Blue Jeep XJ guy?

I can't keep track anymore...

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damn this bumper looks nice and useful but god i heavily dislike bubble anything on most vehicles.

probably insanely heavy and expensive, too

>>16905020
Also
>arb snorkels are $400
>ebay snorkels for same models are $150
>3x price increase for a metal tube drawing in cold air
Is there any advantage to buying arb metal tubes over ebay metal tubes? It's not like a turbo that has fatigue and temperature issues, do they?

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>>16903436
>>16903441

Fanfuckingtastic. Thanks!

>>16903400

That's the location for the factory AC compressor.

>>16903755

Factory is a 105a for the Suburban. Go to a self service junk yard and find 145a optional AD244 in a GMT800.

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How do I hotwire a 1996 jeep?

https://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/6044958635.html

>>16905377
Sometimes you can just climb into the Jeep and turn the key harness without a key!

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>>16904666
>satan pls
that sounds awesome though. can you do that to my entire undercarriage pls

>>16904827
i have transcended both
i am all that is cruiser and all that is jeep

>>16905020
i think that's an aoe
i hate the way they look desu. too futuristic not classic enough
they have p good reviews tho

>>16905377
>500 for a county 'maintained' jeep with 188k miles
I genuinely hope you plan on stealing this becasue it's worth maybe half that in scrap, less if you factor in towing fees.

>>16904827
What is it with being a drunk, an /o/ poster, and driving a blue 4x4? Is it common, or confidence. Mind you, this is my first post of the day, and also my first beer of the day.

>>16905416
I have to do a test trial with some bare steel and test it against some abrasive surfaces or maybe tape it to my grille and see how it deals with water splash, rain, ice, etc. But titanium is notorious for its tension strength and resistance to corrosion compared to zinc and

Actually, I'm going to toss a thread up right now on zinc-plating (galvanisation) and see what the /o/tists know about this. Maybe /sci/ would be a better place to ask this. I had been under the impression that Zn plating was more or less pointless because of the amount that they would scratch off right off the bat (and then flake off) in harsh climates.

>aoe
>spoopy space bumpers
yeah that's what i am thinking too. anyway, i shot an email to that utah store and i'll see what shipping is. if it's more than $300, i might just go with my fab's bumpers.

>>16905559
/diy/ would be much better than here. Don't go to /sci/ so don't know about them.

>>16905559
Properly plated steel will simply wear off instead of flaking but titanium and zinc both have the problem of if there is a scratch the rust will simply work it's way into the steel and then flake it off.

It's a lo of trouble when undercarriage treatments applied every half year to a year would do the same thing and maybe better.

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>>16902469

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>>16905668

>>16905582
Not exactly true. Rust doesn't exactly tunnel out like bubbling rust does when it comes to galvanised materials. It can dig a big deeper but a simple sand and paint job will fix that.

Bare steel would also be prone to that scratch issue as whale? Anyway, it looks like zinc plating the bumper might actually be more affordable, practical, and better for the vehicle. /o/ says old cars used to have galvinaisation but something to do with environmental or the automotive jew preventing further production of galvanised cars

So I hear ORG died. I'm bringing sexy back bitches. So what is the last thing you ran over that wasn't asphalt?

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>>16906071
a nine inch piece of granite with muh chitty ferd shitbox

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>>16906071
Cement

>>16906071
post your bewbs

>>16906120
Haha go fuck yourself. ;)

>>16904666
>Theoretically, I can dissolve a layer of titanium with acid and plate the titanium pure onto any bare metal surface of my choosing.

While this is entirely true, there's really not much point to it. Once you get a few scratches the bare metal underneath will start to rust out. It will act the same as rattle can paint but look a lot better.

If you're doing it for aesthetics, then just use aluminum plate to build whatever it is you want. I'd think it easier to build a boxed aluminum replacement frame than it would be to strip a vehicle down to bare frame, dissolve enough titanium into solution to fill a bath large enough for a frame, and then submerse the frame in it.

>>16903441
>>16905337

Upon further inspection, it appears these are just the kits to put fog lights in a bumper that already has the pockets.

>>16906120
>bewbs
Are you like 12?

>>16906181
I galvanised a 10 metre pole by using home made electrolysis bags once. now that I have access to larger dishes and an industrial location, it'd be much easier. plus the only thing I want to galvanise is my bumper anyway - not some anon's land cruiser frame :^)
Bed liner on a vehicle frame is invisible. same couldn't be said for a bumper or side rails...

I feel like a layer of zinc followed by powder coating might be the best protection? apparently pure zinc really isn't as flakey as I had originally thought. So galvanising aftermarket bare steel might be worth the small bit of issue.

Also, aluminium frames are very common and very good ideas for vehicle restoration. Unfortunately, I lack the time, dedication, and technical knowhow do that with any vehicle :^(

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>>16906232
>he doesn't want her to post them

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>>16906244
Crow I've already seen them

I'm the only one to save them

And I don't want to share because I'm greedy

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>>16906271

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Just got back. I explored out to the the parts of the trail I didn't do, and holy shit it was crazy fun.

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>>16906851
I wont flood the thread with stupid flex shots.

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>>16906860
You're too prudent sometimes. Post at least 3 or 4. It's better than the above shitposts (or maybe it isn't. who knows anymore).

What I like doing is posting the shots I got whilst wheeling in conjunction with responses to some people.

>>16906860
how hot was it, going out to the palm springs area tomorrow

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>>16906914
I was out off the 8 by the Jacumba hot springs, it was actually really nice out. Warm with a cool breeze. But that's high desert probably a lot more warm in palm springs.

>>16906904
ok, here's a good angle

>>16906950
That is a good angle! We can see the brake line from there, too (;

>>16906960
Nice plates, babe. Nice ass, too.

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>>16906974
My plates are in almost all my shots, I don't really care. Also yeah, those brake lines make me feel a lot more safe on the trail.

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>>16906851
>>16906860
>>16906950
>>16906960
Looks like fun, man! Wish I could've driven out with ya.

Next time!

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Last one I have right now, I'll get some from my photo bro tomorrow.

>>16906987
>censoring your plates

>>16906987
Ye, I actually did some super gnarly side trails, I don't know if you could have made it through some parts but most spots have bypasses.

>>16907001
Just winch the little faggot out. Why else did he get a tube bumper?
:^)

>>16904344
>why would you do this
I think we had a little lost in translation moment...
I'll clear up that both my vehicles are Monteros and not Landcruisers, but this is only in reference to crumple zones on ARB branded bars.
Unrelated, but you'd have a heart attack if you saw what Ausfaggots are paying for that branded stuff...
>>16904565
>Spam
Highly underrated delicacy.

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>>16905559
that sounds really smart actually. let me know how far you get that is incredibly interesting.

>spoopy space bumper
kekd. good luck with the shipping, if it doesnt work out having a custom bumper done would be pretty awesome you can get it done exactly how you want

i really love the way the costa fabrications bumpers look: http://costafabrications.bigcartel.com/product/80-series-expedition-bumper
if i had too much money i would buy one of those and have a little more top tubing added for deer protection. i think that would be the perfect bumper.

>>16906851
>>16906860
jelly
t-minus 10 days until i leave
also i didnt realize your stinger was so serious

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>>16904615
Hate to sound like a shill, but I actually like the rear bar you speak of. The way the swing away arms fold back in flush is a nice touch.
If it were me though, I'd probably far something up myself with RHS steel tubing and a couple of trailer stub axles as swing away pivot points.

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>>16907245
lol it looks so bad its not even debatable
it looks like the 80 is wearing a diaper it took a big shit in
also lots of rear bars have that feature, thats fairly common place at this point.

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>>16906993
>shitposting

>>16907001
Yeh we'll have to decide on a place. I usually either go to Lake Elsinore, Ocotillo, Otay, or Anza-Borrego, but I'm down for a new trail if you think I can handle it in my shitty-tire 2wd mexicanfoodmobile. Or >>16907092

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>>16907304
the slee ones on the other hand are beautiful

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>>16907304

If you want to talk about shit filled diaper bumpers, look no further than Move.

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>>16907320
the 4x4 labs is pretty nice too
not quite as nice as the slee imo but pretty good

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>>16907325
kek
>using an aftermarket bumper to make your approach angle even worse than stock

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>>16907221
ye, my stinger is kinda a for show, but at the same time my jeep only weighs maybe 2800lb so it could probably hold it. Mostly got it to protect my winch and get rid of the old chrome bumper.

Funny thing happened today, I was asking a 4door jk guy that was coming up the trail towards me to spot a side trail I was gonna take off to the right because he was already out of his jeep and in my way. He looks at it and goes "I don't know dude that's pretty steep" btfo long wheel base fag let me look. shit is like a steep driveway at most, then he goes "hey at least you got a stinger if you go over" Like dude what does this look like to you a Suzuki samurai? This shit isn't gonna just end over end driving down a driveway.

>>16907304
>>16907320
I think we'll have to agree to disagree. The ARB unit is bulkier, but in the flesh it is much nicer finished. Although I don't think I'd be willing to pay the ARBtax over the more minimalist examples you've pointed out. But then I'm a tight ass.
>>16907325
Kek, new meaning to the term brodozer

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>>16905555
MFW I used to own both a Yellow YJ and a Blue Birb. How can things get any Memeier?

>>16907753
>How can things get any Memeier?
Buy a Landcruiser, and a 2wd pickup with no mods and call it a prerunner.

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>>16907572
the finish on it is ok...especially when compared to the slee which is really in a class of its own
speaking of price though im pretty sure the arb is actually cheaper than the ones i posted haha

>>16907387
>2800lb
>mfw im literally 2x as heavy as you

but so how did your story end. did you make it or was he right and you rolled over and died

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>turning my 1999 forester into an off roader for trails level 4 or lower
>all my friends have jeeps
>constantly bottoming out in snow and needing to pull myself put with MAXTRAX while they wait around and snicker
the pain never ends

>>16907304
>pooby diaber.jpg
I'm crying

>>16907867
why not sell the forester and get something else then?

>>16907894
Because it's my daily driver as well and I need something that can do (((some))) off roading and not kill my wallet in gas costs while I sit in traffic for at least 2 hours a day for 5 days a week

>>16907769
>pretty sure the arb is actually cheaper than the ones i posted haha
Wouldn't have guessed that!
I'm personally going to be doing a home made rear bar and quarter chop on my Montero, and have it double as an air resivour. Although I have the luxury of already having the spare mounted on the tailgate so I won't have to worry about swinging gates. If there's one critisism I have of Landcruisers from the J80 onwards, it's Toyota's lack of foresight to have a suitable offroad friendly spare tire location.

>>16907894
This. Persisting with a flawed platform doesn't make sense.

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Whats you guys opinions on the 11th gen F150 vs one of the newer rangers like ~2007 ish?

Will be swapping manual transmission into 4.6l f150 if i cant find one. Have the knowledge and cash to do so.

Help me out fellow /o/tists

>>16907975
Also, not using it for technical trails. More for overlanding/camping/hunting fishing trips

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holy shit i just got SO FUCKING drunk after work.

>>16907981
>>16907975
B R O N C O

>>16907221
Uh Which ones.

>>16907209
Dude spam lmao. What are ausfags paying for branded shit?

>>16907326
>>16907320
>>16907304
>>16907245
>>16907221
GIVE
ME
TAYCONDEROGA
BUMPIE
RECOMMENDATIONS
YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS
ree

>>16907325
this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88JX07qeAf0

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>>16908028
I know the F150 and Ranger aren't the epitome of gas mileage, but I don't want to step into bronco territory on that front :(

Also, sweet ranger. Is it yours?

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>>16907923
ah yeah thats complicated.
all the money youre spending making that thing /off road/ ready though could be used for gas in a rig that is actually designed for it. get a 3rd gen 4runner or something they are relatively cheap, good off road even stock and still get like 20mpg combined

>>16907940
i love monteros man post some pics. definitely interested to see how that all turns out.

>>16907964
>hfw exploding cv joints every 10k miles

>>16907975
i mean theyre fine. where do you live? if youre out west the size probably wont be that much of a problem anyway

>>16908050
front or rear? or both?
ive posted like 10 different bumper options so far

>>16908106
To be honest most of the issues I've been having is user error, not the forester. I won't get stuck when I'm smart enough to put chains on first, though I'm new to the hobby and forget sometimes. That and the bottoming out which I want to fix with a lift kit.

>>16908184
i was memeing. desu i like seeing subaraus out on the trials. nice seeing something other than jeeps and tacomas every once and a while.
that being said, be careful with lifting those, can lead to a lot of issues like the exploding cv joints that i said. in most cases you are much better off buying an actual 4x4 but if youre going to just stick to forest roads and that sort of thing the subie should suit you well.

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>>16908060
>>16908060
Lifting torsion bars past 4 inches is fucking cancer my man.

Also
>breakover angle lmao

>>16908199
Thank you for the advice, I fell in love with it this winter when my area got hit with a terrible (for us) snow storm that shut down the county but I was able to get around just fine even with snow coming up over my hood.
If you don't mind, what general gear would you keep on board for overlanding?

>>16908210
of course man.
and thats cool to hear. as far as awd systems are concerned, the one you have in your forester is really solid.

most important is recovery gear. straps, d rings, rated recovery points, maybe a winch or traction boards, a shovel and an air compressor. then get a solid first aid kit and mostly everything else after that is just luxury. id suggest going on a few shortish trips and whatever sticks out to you the most should be your next upgrade. for example, if you slept like shit maybe its time for a sleeping platform build/rtt/whatever, if you couldnt see out in the woods maybe its time for lighting, kept getting stuck time for a winch or lockers or whatever you get the idea.

for me, i have to be comfortable while sleeping. if i dont get good sleep it ruins the whole trip for me.

>>16908281
So far I have a hi lift that I can't use until I get recovery points/winch kit, 1 set of maxtrax, basic repair kit, tire repair kit
I'm thinking of an exhaust jack because lol plastic body and the l8ft mate to stuff crap under the tires

>>16907975
11th gen F150s are complete and utter piles of irredeemable shit. Avoid them at all costs.

>>16908060
A lot of Broncos are better on gas than a lot of F150s.

>>16907975
>>16907981
Nothing about what you want to use it for helps to justify your choice of vehicle or drivetrain. What you're describing sounds like what a Suburban is best for. 3/4 ton 5.7l to start with, or swap to an NV4500 or 4L80e.

>>16908210
where do you live

>>16908644
Thanks. I just snorted my lunch out my nose.

>>16908644
>Nothing about what you want to use it for helps to justify your choice of vehicle or drivetrain.
yeah mean, i agree. f-juan shitties aren't all the best with their bad reliability and gas mileage. rangers are expensive for what you get, too
>What you're describing sounds like what a
hmm wonder what he'll say. xj? 4x4 van?
>a Suburban is best for
u wot m8
>3/4 ton 5.7l to start with, or swap to an NV4500 or 4L80e.
OK now I know he's just trolling.

>>16908699
Thanks for explaining the joke. I didn't think the humour was particularly well disguised.

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>>16908683
>>16908699
>>16908712
>Suburbans aren't good overlanding/camping/fishing
Look sir, trolls.

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>>16908719

>>16908106
uh. otay.

i'm too drunk. could you literally hold my hand through where the bumpies are?
oh god. how am i going to wake up in 7 hours.

>>16908683
>lunch
>midnight

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>>16908726

>>16908719
>>16908726
>>16908735
you know. maybe i should've just bought an all blacked out suburban so i can SWAT larp in the forests. it doesn't have the same culty effect if i do that in the land cruiser, heh.

it would've only cost me $3000 to buy it and another $3000 to deck it out. now i'm gonna spend like $5000 to adapt muh lexus.

/druncc ramblings

>>16908763
Don't forget the parts from a Ford and GM truck.

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>>16908798
otay now you're just messing with me

>>16908672
Portland OR, but I spend a lot of time going to the coast thru the mountain range

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>>16908798

The few parts I got from GM pickups are available stock in Suburbans, mine just wasn't equipped with them.

And you don't need a Ford D60, a GM D60 will do just fine.

>>16908821
Relax, I'm taking the piss in the same way I'm sure this post >>16908644 was intended.

>>16908804
sauce on grill pls. already checked tinyeye ;_;

>>16908841

Hate to break it to you, but he's not wrong.

Usually I'd say the DIY guys should probably avoid trans swaps whenever possible but he was already planning on doing one. Personally I still wouldn't, auto is better for a 4x4 anyway.

Suburban's interior is better for camping/overlanding than an extended cab short bed truck is and accomplishes that in a shorter wheelbase. Not to mention the body on those F150s is fuckhuge.

>My 97 4x4 3/4 ton Suburban on 37s is better on gas than a 2006 F150 2WD
>My 97 4x4 3/4 ton Suburban on 37s has had far fewer issues than a 2006 F150 2WD

No, I haven't tried climbing any hills in the 2WD F150.

>>16908106
>>16908207
>>16908629
>>16908884

F150/Ranger seeker back again. Thanks for all your opinions. For both, id get an extended cab 6ft bed.

Also, I live in Alabama, so the smaller truck would probably be better for me. I might be asking in the wrong place since im not looking for a high lifted suspension swapped trail technical runner..

I'm trying not to go too far back to where everything is completely spartan and old tech, but not too new to where I have a 5' grill and no ground clearance.

Budget is around ~$10-$12k, plus whatever I need to do involving a tranny swap if i need to/decide to go through with it. Any suggestions other than those two? No newer tacos though. They drive like a camry with a bed, with the interior to match. Not my thing.

I want to be able to take on anything id find innawoods, camping, hunting, fishing etc with reasonable effort.

Want to join /org/ community senpai

>>16908974

96-99 2500 on the off chance you do decide to go with a Suburban. They're cheap as dirt so you could easily get an optioned out model in like new condition with low miles for half your budget.

96-99 has most of the features of the 00+ but with a simpler electronics system, a smaller body, and better low end power.

Ranger is a little bit smaller but a lot less power, generally a lot less creature comforts, and the backseat is about useless for anything other than the room to recline the front seats. They're usually about the same price for similar year and miles.

Obviously I'm seconding avoiding the 11th gen F150. 9th gen isn't much better. 12th gen and newer I can't comment on but given the past models I wouldn't have much hope for them and the body is still fuckhuge.

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>>16908763
>SWAT larping in a blacked out Suburban

Kek. You don't need to go to the woods. I took a road trip out to Flint to buy parts for my LTD project and was mistaken for Flint PD by a sheriff deputy in my 20 year old burb that was once "blacked out", but now is faded and the truck now looks like ass.

>>16908974
You could get a great ranger for that price. Going from my dad's f-250 to my ranger, there's a lot to be said about having a half decent turning circle and not being as wide as a fullsize even in the city. The cab is not so big but as long as you're not in the back it's comfy. If you can find an FX4 unicorn even better.

>>16908974
2nd for a Burban. Throw a roof basket, 3" lift, and 33-35" tires on it and it'll be perfect for what you want.

>>16908763
Wouldn't that be LERPing?

>>16909120
>fx4 unicorn
Wat. How are those even rare.

>>16910465
>its my Sunday
>working overtime
>am sad
>looks up secondary market prices for Rangers in my spare time to make me happier
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/barrie/08-fx4-ranger-5-spd/1239962371?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

Kekek

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>>16908763

>SWAT larping

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>>16908974
Fuck I'm hungover. Sorry for laying a huge turd in this thread yesterday.

Anyway, >>16908884 is pretty correct that all modern pickup truccs after like 2007 have shitty reliability issues and are pretty annoying to fix. Along with being oversized and with collision restrictions allowing something like 9 inches maximum of clearance, F-150s, Silberadoodoos, and the autistic cummins aren't really good offroaders either.

I'm going to tell you this: if I didn't need to haul 200 litres of industrial solvents with a small trailer through fire trails and occasionally ATV paths, I don't think I would've ended up with Taynger. However, highway comfort and general reliability of the 4x4 Ranger platform made me choose my overpriced small trucc for work and fun. And boy has it been fun.

You will not lose out if you buy a Ranger (3.0L is shit and you'll have yourself, though) in 2.3L Lima or 4.0 OHV (pre 98) or if you have the money to buy a 2008+ SOHC 4.0 V6. But I would still highly encourage you to look into other options to join /ORG/ and other offroading technical paths. These ferds are harder to upgrade and there's almost no spacing in their hoods. They're great for highway but you should really have another vehicle for highway driving separate from the /ORG/ vehicle of your choosing (since you live in Alabama and not buttfuck Onterrible). Rangers come in Manual too, btw. And so do every single Jeep.

>>16907221
Wow that 80 series expedition bumper is like they one I have on Taynger right now... but 40% more expensive :^(

I would love to have one of these since the wider spacing means measurement by error AND I get to step on them whenever I get stuck in mud (or during river crossings) to not get too muddy when I winch myself out.

in-board winch is great, too. this is what i would get my fab to do (and i think it's his stock option for winch bumpers) as whale.

What's up with those recovery points made with like weird shiny steel? Also, why are all winch bumpers black?

>>16911102
>Also, why are all winch bumpers black?
Because it matches everything, it protects the bumper, and it's cheap. A few are chrome or polished aluminum but that's more expensive and the bare ones usually end up rattle canned.

Are there any off decent off roaders that won't kill me gas mileage wise? I'd like to DD one.

>>16911308
Taynger gets 15MPG city fuel economy with bad gearing on 32 inch tyres. She does, however, get 19 highway MPG.

For a 4.0 V6 from 2010, that's kinda pitiful. But it's considered pretty "good" for offroad vehicles.

>>16911308
The Tacc gets about 19 highway and about 16 city with my mods, but stock they get about 23 highway and 19 city

>>16911308
Burb gets about 18 hwy 15 city.

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Test driving the UAZ 469 and waiting for documents from the Russian police so i can import it to my country.
Can't wait to go camping and off-roading with this machinery!

>>16911492
lol

>>16911341
>>16911446
>>16911492
Mind being more specific? I'm as big of an SUV enthousiast. I have no idea what those cars are and google doesn't give me anything.

>>16911632
>ranger
>tacoma
>shit
In that order.

>>16911632
Taynger = Ford Ranger SOHC V6 4.0litre 2010
Tacc = Toyota Tacoma 3.5L V6 from early 2000s
Burb = Chevrolet Suburban or GMC Yukon probably from late 90s on a 6.5litre V8?

Anyway, you ahve two light trucks and a full sized SUV. You'll have to be more specific on "decent off roaders" and "won't kill me gas mileage-wise".

People say muh Ford Ranger is a shit offroader but I can climb rocks pretty okay... Otherwise, yeah.

>>16911727
Don't forget that the tacoma is >2wd

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>>16911803
why would you remind me of something like that?

>>16911632
>Ranger
Not back breaking, but not particularly comfortable either.
Okay off road, but nothing special, Small pickup classified as midsize due to drivetrain's limited capability. Usually found pretty cheap. Good option if you need a truck bed but don't plan to use it for anything heavy.

>Tacoma
Not back breaking, but not particularly comfortable either.
Okay off road, but nothing special, Small pickup classified as midsize due to drivetrain's limited capability. Usually the most expensive option by a large margin, without really giving you anything more. Axles will likely hold up to oversize tires slightly better than the ranger but at the cost of an increased risk of catastrophic ball joint failure.

>Suburban
Fairly comfortable and most examples are well equipped.
Okay off road, but nothing special, Long wheelbase variant of an SUV that is classed as fullsize due to it's drivetrain's capability and interior space even though exterior width and height are closer to a midsize. Usually found pretty cheap. Good option if you'd prefer versatility of cargo space and axles will hold up the best to oversize tires.

>>16911727
>Burb = Chevrolet Suburban or GMC Yukon probably from late 90s on a 6.5litre V8?
96-99 2500 4x4 5.7, both Suburban. Yukon is the short wheelbase GMC, same as Tahoe, and isn't available with the better axles and transmission.
It's fairly easy to squeeze 23mpg hwy out of a 6.5 diesel in good working order but they have their own issues and are best avoided by newcomers. For the advanced user these issues are easy to find and fix.

>>16911816
We're talking about gas mileage so that plays a factor. Sorry :(

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>>16911803
>>16911872
Yeh but it wouldnt be full-time so mileage is barely affected, I'd imagine

>>16911824
1st gen classified as compact pickup, but yeah watch out for lower ball joints and rust on the early Tacomas and 4Runners

>>16911727
>You'll have to be more specific on "decent off roaders
It needs to be able to handle sand dunes and mud mostly, don't have a lot of rocks around here.
>won't kill me gas mileage-wise
The cheaper the better. I don't really have a certain threshold.

I honestly don't like pickup trucks, so the suburban seems like the better choice even though I don't have a use for a full sized SUV in my daily routine. Does anyone here drive a Cherokee? That would be my car of choice, but I'm not sure how it performs on the points I mentioned.

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>>16911937
Yes. Cherokees are very, very good. Just suffers a bit from gas mileage so that's why I didn't bring it up.

Also good on you for not liking truccs despite being a burgerclapistanian

>>16911937
Look at pre 2002 explorers. They're basically rangers except the 2 doors have an even shorter wheelbase.

>>16911971
not to mention explorers are cheaper than XJs and also have a V8 option if you're into that

>>16911971
Shorter wheelbase is of no advantage for sand or mud.
Explorers and Expeditions are plagued with electronics issues and have extremely generic interiors.

>>16911971
This. Get the 5.0 (or something) V8 or the 4.0 OHV pre-98. Try and steer clear of the SOHC V6.

4Runners also work.

>>16911984
>exploders
>cheaper than XJs
please don't say things like that when vehicles are within like $1500 of each other. both vehicles are extremely plentiful and have their own respective issues along with being found under $2500 most of the time.

that'll only lead to a bunch of annoying pedantic arguments and nitpicking
see: 4 threads of burb vs land cruiser that nobody except like 3 people bothered to even read.

>>16911949
Do you own one? What would you say the estimated mileage is?
>>16911971
I actually like the look of those, thanks. Not sure about a v8, never driven one of those before.

>>16911988
>plagued with electronics issues
Source?.
>extremely generic interiors
Lol so what?

>>16912003
They're both around the $1500 mark most of the time.

Explorer is going to have a lot less aftermarket and and a ton of electronics issues, but will be at least a little bit more comfortable and more powerful if you get the V8. Neither is great on gas, especially considering their size and weight.

IMO spend the extra $500 and get a Suburban. They're far from perfect but the interiors are a lot better and they're reliable even when you beat the fuck out of them.

>>16912005
No. That picture was the owner of the green XJ shooping taytay in for which I am forever grateful <33

Anyway, the reason I didn't bring up XJs int he first place was due to them not exactly being the best beginner vehicles when it comes to modding or some repairs (interiors and electronics) when you buy them for under $4000. Estimated gas mileage on the XJs are very good with like 21 MPG highway but once you actually get into modding them and loading them up, they start to fall. They come with stock 28s which are otay for most fire roads and other offroading but once you factor in lifts, tyre upgrades, and the regearing, they can get down to like 16, 13 highways. That's what I'd expect the green cherokee in the pic I posted to get, anyway. Haven't asked him that before.
I also wouldn't call them "DD" worthy due to the ride bumps...

V8 exploder would get my vote. or a two door tahoe, sure.

>>16912029
$1500 when you buy them as-is and after a few tune-ups and a year of owning, they'll end up costing a bit more (still under 3k, though)

>>16912022
>Source?
Family members and friends have owned several due to the low entry price and features looking great on paper. All of them grew to hate them shortly after. Nearly every Explorer I've ever been in has had issues with the power door locks. Then you've got radios and sunroofs constantly shitting out... It's cheap stuff to fix with junkyard parts, but I just don't like spending my free time tearing apart a 15-20 year old interior to fix electronics issues that could have been avoided with a different vehicle in the same price range.

>Lol so what?
Fine if your friend is giving you a ride in one but it's not an interior you want to spend a lot of time in. All but the highest trim packages feel like lifeless base model lowest bidder fleet trucks and they're not exactly spacious.

>>16912038
>I also wouldn't call them "DD" worthy due to the ride bumps...
Could you elaborate? Also as you said I'm a total beginner, I don't even know what I'd want to mod.
>>16912029
It seems like I'm choosing between the XJ and the explorer. Not a money issue, I just think Suburbans are too big

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>>16912053
>anecdotal evidence from suburban shills

>>16912078
Oh it's just that no XJ I have ever been have been "comfortable". I couldn't imagine shuttling around hungover baes in an XJ the morning of. She already hates my moderately comfy Ranger... );

But then again, I'm some cuck chad according to the rest of /o/, so take that comment how you will...

>>16912099
>Oh it's just that no XJ I have ever been have been "comfortable"
Could you be more specific? How are they uncomfortable?

>>16912085
Statistics are anecdotes.

>>16912078
Not going to argue with you about what you want, but I'd urge you to at least take a 96-99 for a test drive. They're not nearly as big as a lot of people seem to think they are and I'd hate for an inaccurate reputation to scare you away.

>>16912038
>or a two door tahoe
Didn't bring up the Tahoe because they usually price themselves out due to the high demand and low supply. But it's worth checking around for one I suppose. Might find one for a good price.

>>16912116
You feel every little bump, turns are annoying, everything is loud, highway speeds leave your ears ringing after 3+ hours, idling motors can set off car alarms, and some acceleration jerks in a weird oscillating motion.

Feeling bumps is great for offroad usage... Not so much for daily driving through pot holes.

>>16912116
Rough ride, steering geometry not great for road use, unibody so no damping between frame and body, death wobble, cramped interior, seats not at all ergonomic...

They're good low speed off road vehicles.

>>16912119
Alright, I'll be sure to try one out, I'll admit I've never seen one from up close.
>>16912127
>>16912136
Damn that sucks, would an explorer be more comfortable or just as bad?

>>16912210
Idk my ranger is fairly comfy. Considering the fact that explorers were more upmarket they might ride even better.

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Got er stuck yesterday

>>16912239
Where in Colorado?

>>16912254
Ontario

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>>16912282
Oh. Where at, senpai.
I just finished a 2 night oberlanding adventure.

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>>16912313

Right on the border to the states in Windsor

>>16912331
Ah dense woodlands and snowmobilers everywhere. Come out to Bobcaygeon senpai. There are a few all season trails that you can tackle bordering open crown land.

What are the two rigs?

>>16912210
>Damn that sucks, would an explorer be more comfortable or just as bad?
Most Exploders are going to be NEARLY as bad as an XJ in terms of less than ideal seats and a cramped interior but have better road manners to help make up for it.
The higher trim package Exploders will definitely be better than the XJs for comfort all around, but still not as comfy as a Suburban, which is usually easier to find in higher trim levels.

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>>16911308
I can get 20mpg in Murphy with MT tires and a 4.10 rear end. Most gas burbs only get half that mileage though...

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>>16912560
this guy is from windsor too: >>16912331

detroit lockers when? detroit meetup when? (otay maybe not in detroit but somewhere north of it).

>>16912589
Ayyyy!
I'll still be stuck on 3rd shift through mid April. Anytime after that I'll be pretty good. I wonder if the Blue burb guy who lives close by would be up for the meet. I haven't seen him in these threads in a while though :-\

>>16912560

Maybe the old carbed big blocks. My 97 Vortec 350 averaged 16 flying up the highway at 90mph and then driving around in heavy traffic in the mountains for a week full of tools and equipment.

I have no doubt I could have squeezed that to 18 or better mixed under better circumstances even with mine being a 3/4 ton 4x4. Makes me wonder if the EPA estimates were full throttle up a hill while at payload capacity.

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>>16908310
they make a wheel adapter for the high lift jack. id look into that before i went the exhaust jack route.

>>16908728
kek. im sure youve sobered up by now, but here are a few links

slee shortbus front bumper: http://www.sleeoffroad.com/products/bumpers/sof_shortbus_bumper_detail.htm

slee off road rear bumper (aka the gold standard for rears imo): http://www.sleeoffroad.com/products/bumpers/sof_rear_80series_detail.htm

4x4 labs rear (best clearance and also the most popular currently. also its modular which is incredibly awesome): https://4x4labs.myshopify.com/collections/80-series-landcruiser/products/landcruiser-80-series-rear-bumper

BIOR rear (also modular which is awesome):http://www.bumpitoffroad.com/80-rear-bumper.html

Dobinsons front: https://www.dobinsonsprings.com/index.php/toyota-bull-bars

youve already seen the costa fab front bumper which is at the top for me, and of course the arb options. there are other options as well ironman, tjm, etc. which are all fine too im sure. 4x4 labs also has a front but it looks like absolute shit

>>16911102
i think what youre referring to is actually a bottle opener haha

>>16911492
kek'd

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>>16912560
>>16912629
Even the new suburbans can only manage 16 city and 23 highway. What magic have the gm engineers failed to harness in 20 years?

>>16912751
They were ahead of the curve 20 years ago but it caught up to them now.

>>16912784
Ah yes, that's why they trashed the 50 year old SBC and went to the LS. Makes perfect sense.

>>16912736
ugu go on discord

>>16912827
>50 year old design is ahead of the fuel economy curve in the late 90s

>create new design
>next to no improvements in fuel economy in 20 years

It does seem like they could be doing better.

>first gen Tundra
>rust around the fender flares
>don't feel like spending the time painting and sanding and shit
>cheapest bed nearby is $500 CAD (has a single ding)

is replacing a bed something someone with little experience wrenching can do? I have the service manual for this thing btw

>>16912838
hey guys anyone with any experience offroading a cv pls check out my thread~

>>16912902
Not that hard if you have some help to lift

>>16912876
wtf is this gay shit i have to make an account
pls no

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>>16912629
What rear end did you have?

I had a 95, 4x4 with a TBI 350 with a 4.10 rear end. Best I could get was 13.

My other burb was a 454........ I got about 10 with that one.

>>16912751
Diesel power brah

Too bad they killed off diesel SUVs with the assumption people will naturally settle for a 3/4 ton pickup.

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because of these fucking treads I have decided I want an off road capable vehicle. my car is a 1994 Nissan hardbody pickup 2wd v6. An SAS 4x4 conversion would be about $600 from a junkyard, but Ive heard it will drive like shit, and this is my only car. So I've decided to just do everything I can do to make this thing off road ready with just 2wd. I grabbed some leaf springs from a Isuzu rodeo for the back and fucked with the torsion setup in the front to get 3" suspension lift. Last weekend I bought some passable shocks, an LSD for the rear end, and a welder to convert it to fit my truck. This week I'm going to be lifting the body up another 2" so I can fit some 29's. Is there anything I'm missing? Also I can fit 31's should I go for that instead? any suggestions as to brand and model? Keep in mind I want this thing to drive comfy on the road. Total cost so far (minus the welder because that's multi use) $280

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>real great friend of mine died
>avid lover of everything trucks
What else do you do to celebrate life?

>>16913454
ONE OF US!
ONE OF US!
ONE OF US!

What kind of off roading are you planning on doing? You can get pretty far with what you have planned.

>>16913497
>What else do you do to celebrate life?

I celebrate the victory of the Union over the Confederation

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>>16913591
My end goal is to put a camper shell on it and use it as my weekend escape vehicle . I'm not going for something to take on real challenging trails. I just want something that can get me as far away from civilization as one can get in a weekend.

>>16913738
where you live

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>>16912005
That's mine.
Picture is from when I gave Tay Tay a lift to Death Valley.
6 inch lift, 33" tires & 4.88 gearing.
I get 16mpg running a steady 72-75 mph on long hauls. Probably about the same wheeling with tires aired down to 15psi.
It has the aerodynamics of a brick, but it's extremely capable on trail.

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>>16913454
NICE! Where is taht forest? looks really nice.
I love the D20s so much. Most aesthetic trucc for sure. What's the front suspension on those like?

>>16913758
wha-what-what did you talk about?
why didn't you inbit me? D:

holy shit i got drunk right after work. god kill me now.

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>>16913754
Alabama. Im new here and am not really familiar with the area, but there has to be some cool stuff around. I used to live in NC so its going to be hard to find stuff to compare with that.

>>16913790
Its just some land for sale near my house. The front suspension. Is some gay ass setup that doesn't give me many options. If I would have gotten the 95 it would have had a proper double wish bone, making lifting it a breeze, but since its weird I had to go with the 3" ghetto lift that fucks my alignment and geometry all up. Since I have the welder I'm probably going to go completely custom up front eventually, maybe get a little prerunner going on.

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>>16913866
Forgot pic

>>16913866
A better idea is to get a D44 in the front.

>>16913454
>4x4 conversion would be about $600 from a junkyard
Is this a new meme?
>trying to climb a hill in your 2wd Hardbody

>>16913872
AHAHAHAHA DIS NIGGA GOT THE TORSION BARS
HOLY FUCKING RIP F. F. F. F. F.

I'm so sorry anon. But at least it'll make the swap that much more satisfying.

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>>16913880
Transfer case from a pathfinder bolts right on the back of my transmission( my body even has the space for it), then all I would need is an axle some leaf springs for the front. Boom 4x4.

>>16913285

4.10 9.5" SF 14 bolt.

Now I've got a 4.88 FF AAM 10.5"

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>>16913960
Finally someone who doesn't think I'm crazy for wanting to do a 4x4 conversion

>>16914003
Not crazy, just stupid for not buying a 4x4 like a normal person

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>>16914003

>not doing a 4x4 conversion to your already 4x4

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>>16914066
not doing a 6x6 conversion on a 4x4

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>>16914289

Don't tempt me.

>>16914297
for what purpose

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>>16914396

For what not purpose?

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>>16914469
i loved those shoop jobs that were done on this thing.
didn't save them, unfortunately, heh.

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>>16914498

>he doesn't have portal axles

>>16914003
>>16913960
I think you're both going to find out the hard way there'll be a lot more cost involved than you think there'll be, along with the ongoing teething issues, breakages and downtime. Particularly Nissan guy wanting to go with a non factory setup.

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>>16914289
>>16914297

>>16914642

Nothing the Harbor Freight 90a can't handle.

>>16914556
Wait. Do you?

Does anyone here watch Dirt Every Day on Netflix? It's a homebrewed program featuring some journalist's random DIY offroad projects. Lots of custom fabrication, in-depth tech stuff, that sort of thing.

>>16914642
damnit i want

>>16914642
Is that the lamborghini offroader mixed with a suburban?

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>>16914680
Yeah, pretty fun show, watch it on YouTube because they have more current episodes

>>16914694

yeah i'm on episode 11 right now. i started watching it from episode 1 last night and thought there was no way this could be successful. but the actual experience the guy has makes it so worthwhile.

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>>16914705
Nah, the people are very reputable, and Fred has been a fourwheel and offroad mag. writer for quite a while now. Believe it or not have learned a lot from their shenanigans. That and roadkill.

>>16914714
>>16914705
I meant like, nah as in there was no way it would fail haha, doing stupid fun shit and offroad is a combination for succes

>>16914714

yeah it's great to actually watch people tear apart axles, engines, show tips and tricks for DIY stuff, etc. way better than 'we ordered all these parts and here's a fast montage and now it's done' like a lot of shows do. makes it really tough to not lust after a wheeler.

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>>16914727
I absolutely love his 86 yota.

>>16914754

that's badass. looking forward to seeing it in the show

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>>16914621
I have a friend who'll be attempting a conversion soon, so my plan is to help him out, see how well he handles it, and use it as an opportunity to see what I'm getting myself into.

If I find that it's more than I can handle, I'll buy a different truck, but for now plan is to convert to 4x4.

>>16914899
By all means I wish you good luck.
I know it's not the first time someone's mentioned you'd be better off selling yours and buying a factory equipped 4x4 in terms of expense, time and finished product.
But hey, I'll have a drink to your success.
I think Hardbody guy will get a nasty ongoing surprise when his bodged steering and suspension geometry setup to suit a "custom" SAS gives constantly gives him grief. I'd have a whole case for his success.

>>16904538
Pre make curry and heat it up at camp. Same with a spaghetti. Just make the noodles at camp and add the sauce/meat/veggies. Chicken salad is pretty feasible this way too. Some slow cooker bbq is nice. Make coleslaw right before the trip too.

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Took my Xterra on a long trip through Death Valley. The highlight was Steel Pass. Loads of fun. Nothing too scary. Lots of excuses to lock the diff up.

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>>16915746
Excellent!
I'm leaving Friday.
Here's another pic from Steel Pass.
Post more photos Xterra.

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Hey Tay - what do you think? Right side are the new ones

>>16914003
Did you just rattle can the stock wheels?

Jesus that looks like shit.

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>>16914003
Just to clarify I'm not doing a 4x4 conversion. I merely stated that it is possible. Its not worth the effort. I just want something to bounce around and explore a little in. If you want to do serious offroading get an actual 4x4. Dumping money into offroading a 2wd will not add to its value as nobody wants that, but you can dump as much as you want into a 4x4 because its actually worth it. I will probably trade my truck in for a legit pathfinder, but I fully expect to eat the value of any mods I do to it (except the tires). Its more just a fun project to me and I really like my truck because its v6 kingcab.

>>16916680
Previous owner powdercoated them. Idk I kinda like the look

I will be getting some better tires in the near future, though, for sure

>>16916718
Ah okay. So I am still alone in wanting to do it.

Damn.

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>>16914003

>>16916718
Nice,
Fairlady.