/ORG/ - Off Road General

>>16878245
First for kill yourself

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>>16878245
Are the Renegade Tarilhawks fairly Capable? I'm not looking to climb mountains with it, but some moderate off-roading would probably be done a few times a year, but it needs to be a decent daily driver as well and I like it quite a bit on pavement.

Also, I've heard a mixed bag on general Reliability, some people have had zero issues, others have been a catastrophe. Almost every horror story has been about a 2015 though so I was thinking Teething issues. Thoughts?

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>>16878245
>ITT
>pictures that fill you with incredibly joy


>>16878152
Isn't Oz different due to the lack of Fog on a lot of the offroad tracks or is that California I'm thinking of?

>>16878305
There's plenty of fog around on dry winter days from East to West southern coast, but not as often in other parts of the world. You're right in the presumption most vehicles here would benefit more from driving/spot lights than fog lights.

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>>16878245

Old thread isn't even at the bump limit yet.

Is that an aftermarket diesel swap with custom factory parts from a Chevy truck and F250?

>>16878245
why is there a 6.5 td in a toyota

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>>16878425
No F250 parts, but plenty of GM truck parts ;)

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>>16878437
Because, no replacement for displacement.

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>Landcruiser and GM
Bad combo, how about some palette cleanser - Jeep and Ferrari

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Just when you thought "surely there isn't more than one Ferrari V12 powered 70s Wagoneer"

>>16878469
>no replacement for displacement.
But that's a 6.2.

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>>16878492
That one's a 6.5... Unless the owner got duped
Either way, it's a bag load more grunt than the original 2H/1HZ would've offered.

>>16878518
That's an older 6.2 intake and looks like V belt accessory drive. There's several different NA 6.5 intakes that are similar. Wouldn't make much sense to swap all the early 6.2 stuff onto a 6.5.

>>16878289
Please for the love of christ don't buy that abomination.

>>16878577
I'd wager it has something to do with making the conversion easier to adapt to whatever Toyota/Nissan it's being fitted to. Mind you, the company that performs the majority of these conversions in Ausfaglia, "Brunswick Diesels", has a history of being rip off merchants (eg; pulling the sump, fitting new main amen big end bearings and selling as a "full rebuilt" exchange motor).

>>16878624
But why though?

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>>16878305
Ah that's what I thought. Driving > Fogs for your porpoises. Gotcha.

Fog lights are almost crucial in Onterrible and the North East Murican states.

>>16878480
BRITISH
RACING
GREEN
Fuck I love that colour so much. This small eyed pepe brings joy to my life.

It's even better because if it was one shade darker, it'd look like horrible Australia Plain Packaging colours and if it was lighter, it'd look like a digusting olive colour. But BRG is just spot on. Love it. That and lime green - just not on cars, hehe

>>16878469
Transmission, gearing, lockers...
Normally true but not when offroading, senpai (;

>>16878654
Nah the early NA 6.5 intakes are the same thing but slightly lower profile.
The later ones are similar but offset the runners to bring them closer to equal length.
Literally no reason to use the older intake.

>>16878670
Gearing/transmission isn't a replacement for a large diesel torque curve.
By the time you gear the small gasser low enough to compete with the diesel's torque you've got a top speed of 25.

Lockers don't help if you lack the power to turn the wheels when all four are biting.

>>16878698
Do you have to have a large displacement engine in order to maximise torque curve? Couldn't you simply retune it so to increase power at your tyres rather than having an output maximisation at your engine? But more at the top speed of like 100km/h or something.

This is literally what all the medium and heavy logistics military vehicles do in order to keep displacement low but have insane towing capacity and torque at the wheel.

>>16878730
We're talking small displacement gasser vs large displacement diesel
No you can not "tune" a small displacement rev happy gasser to make torque at the tires rather than the engine.

All gearing does is exhange torque for speed, with some torque loss due to friction and mass.

This is not at all what the heavy logistics military vehicles do. Most of them have large displacement diesels and top out at fairly low speeds.

The ones that seem to have an oddly low displacement diesel for their size are likely running 2 stroke detroit diesels which don't rev for shit and don't make shit for HP but make torque comparable to engines twice their size.

>>16878670
>Transmission, gearing, lockers...
Normally true but not when offroading, senpai (;
The other guy beat me to it, these aren't really a replacement at all, but advantage in completely different ways. In terms of "displacement replacement" in the examples of Landcruisers and Patrols, it's often easier and more effective to simply turbocharger the diesel six that came in them. But then there's the obvious advantage of having a dead simple mechanical N/A diesel, and if such a GM diesel can be bought cheap enough it, it's often better value replacing a factory diesel six that needs a rebuild.
This is more for the purpose of towing or overlanding loaded to the hilt than outright 4x4 capability.

Last time I checked the classifieds the very occasional 6.5 that comes on the market is better value than what ever factory turbo 1HD Toyota that may pop up.

>>16878770
Oh yeah - you're right. Sorry.

I'm incredibly drunk right now and got confusing horsepower with displacement. Yeah they go on heavy, multi-fuel engines. I was trying to rationalise the transmission's role at the wheel and ended up confusing myself.

>>16878810
Are there any NA TayYoda diesel engines that come on the market? What was wrong with the older 6.2 predecessors? And weren't all 6.5s turbo-ed in order to try and match up to the power of the Cummins?

>>16878857
Plenty of Toyota 1HZs and Nissan TD42s (both non turbo) come on the market for various reasons, but for a good running moderate mileage (about 250k km) 1HZ is typically around $3000. Non turbo 6.2 and 6.5 in similar condition usually change hands for no more than $5000. When adapter kits are readily available, it starts making sense.

>>16878289
please don't encourage neo-chrystler, those fucking morons make bad enough decisions on their own.

If I'm lifting the rear of my truck with an add-a-leaf set, will a shackle flip + longer shackles also add to the lift or do they just allow for more droop?

>probably should have posted in the stupid questions general

>>16880968
Nigga how high do you want your back end? An AAL plus a shackle flip would work, but it'd be bouncy as hell and you wouldn't get much more than 1 or 2 inches of travel out of it

Mostly it'll just raise your back end towards the heavens

>>16880980
I'm only looking for about 2 inches of lift but I want more articulation in the rear. But I suppose that means I'd also need extended travel shocks to allow for the added drop and my 5100s wouldn't cut it.

>>16881049
Go with just the shackle flip/extended shackles for now, and see if that's what you want. An extra leaf is mostly to compensate for extra weight over your back-end, even if it does provide a bit of extra travel.

I wouldn't know much about the shackle flip since mine aren't inverted from the factory, but I know the Billies have a decent amount of travel since I'm also running 5100s

>>16881087
Was thinking of that too but I figured the AAL is easier to remove if I don't like it. The shackle flip is more or less permanent on my truck or at least a shitload more work to revert back.

Argh.. So much research to do

>>16881120
Yeah I getcha

What trug?

>>16881160
First gen tundra.

The lack of aftermarket support is such a kick in the nuts but there are some really cool builds that have popped up over the last few years. Just need to work a bit harder for them it seems.

>>16881177
Ah okay cool

First gen Tacoma, so I kinda know what you're getting at. For me, at least, the market is mostly for later generations, so I only have a couple of options whenever I want to upgrade or replace something

1987 Suzuki Samurai Special Edition with no engine. Hood is bent out of shape, seats are ripped, and the floor board has very minor rust in one area.

Worth $1000? It is cosmetically good and the tires all look in good shape. Includes soft top. I want to swap an engine and just have a project to wrench on this summer.

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>>16882231
seems high for a vehicle with no engine

Somebody give me reasons why I should own a pickup truck AND an overlanding SUV. It seems like it would be just a huge waste of gas and generally a horrible thing to keep around.

>>16882231
U anywhere near SE kansas? I need the tranfer case for a volkswagon powered 4x4 mower.

N-not trolling.

#redneckaf

>>16882453
>need
>ever
cuck

>>16882453
Owning two vehicles is no worse on gas than owning just the one that's the worst of the two.

>>16882646
Why own both an SUV and a Truck if they do the exact same thing?

>>16883023
SUV requires a trailer for an open bed, but offers lockable climate controlled cargo storage.

>>16882453
Any reason the pickup can't be used for overlanding? With a bedcap you have a much more accommodating cargo area and load capacity for supplies to last longer outside of civilisation. With false floor and draw setups you can pack for an awful lot of options...
Otherwise, nah. I have two similar branded SUVs, one for work, beach and bush bashing, the other as the family taxi and long distance overlander. I really wish my work pig was at least a crew cab pickup though, as I often find the SUV cargo compartment a shortcoming.

>>16883249
>truck has more cargo area for supplies
Dude. A G-Wagon or Defender with a roof rack holds much more with the only sacrifice being that it can't tow as much as normal picc'em up truccs.

>>16883249
tl,dr; there's nothing wrong with owning an SUV and a pickup if they fulfil their own criteria, at least in my opinion.

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Hey guys, I picked up an 02 Frontier with 4x4 and 135k miles on it back in October and over time put on 31 inch General Grabber AT2 tires and did a 1.5 inch lift by adjusting the torsion bar.. Will it be good enough to go off road like that or will I need to do suspension work? I've taken it through a few small "runs" of mud when fishing, but that's about it cause I live in Chicago and I'm waiting till the weather gets better to go to some park. Also does anyone know of any trails close to Chicago?

>>16883260
The G-Class and Defender wagon still has nothing on the cargo space of their cab-chassis pickup equivalents.

>>16883249
>SUV cargo space
>shortcoming
You've got the wrong SUV is all.
Buy a Suburban and a roof basket.

>>16883302
What about Land Cruisers?

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>>16883302
Kek, on that same token an equivalent 1/2 or 3/4 ton Silverado is better again...
>>16883316
Heaps of room. If this is Tayngerfag

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>>16883365
...there's always a crew cab chop if space is an issue anyway :P

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Goatherder reporting in. Saw this bad mammajamma out on the asphalt today. Not /org/ mind you, but in my daydreaming brain it was carrying supplies up the mountain to the miners, going over or through every obstacle.

>>16882231
just buy a samurai you dumb faggot
you can get one in decent condition for like $2k you retarded poorfag
they have huge aftermarket support so you can mod it from there kys i hate you

>>16882359
In the Midwest they seem to sell for 2000 on the absolute lowest in rough condition and 4000+ for nice looking ones.

>>16883508
The vehicle is a Samurai.

>>16883656
hes just memeing my dude

>>16883656
>>>>>>>>living in the midwest
why
seriously why?
i've lived in the midwest my whole life and even though im only 19 i couldnt image being able to move out west and NOT doing it wtf

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Just replaced my blown OEM shocks on my ranger with new Fox shocks and HNNNNNNNG the difference is night and day. If any ranger bros who want to spend 500 dollars on new shocks, I highly recommend. Can't wait to drive some fire roads.

>>16884018
if there are*

pardon my autism

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Ooh. Got a contract delay. That means I leave at the same time from the city but get to overland for two days!


>>16883365
Not me but I'm getting the LX almost for sure now. Not sure if I should get a new bumper or not as whale but I probably will since i'm going to join that Land Cruiser circlejerk soon

>inb4 I buy a suburban as whale
Hell if it wasn't for the insurance increases innacity, I'd buy a jeep TJ too

>>16884095
>he actually has money
>he actually offroads
what the fuck are you doing on /ORG/

>>16884095
Don't be drawn to the dark side by illusions of exceptional reliability, capability, and rustproofing.

Join the Suburban Order.

>>16884018
nice! shocks make an enormous difference in ride quality its crazy

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>>16884095
>I'm getting the LX almost for sure now.
>mfw you are finally joining the masterrace with me

>>16884335
>masterrace
>hillary
This says everything that needs to be said about the yoda fags.

>inb4 you preferred bernie

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>>16884345
>yfw i voted for the don

>>16884375
Lies and slander. Classic Hillary supporter.

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>>16884382
>mfw i voted for 'muh jobs' the president but purchased a truck made by nips

>>16884407
You have become the very thing you swore to destroy.

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>>16884470
what have i done

>>16884407

>not buying a Suburban built in Wisconsin

It's like you hate America or something.

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>>16884536
can we not do this again pls

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>>16884548
>putting hot dogs next to uncooked meat

>>16884571
It's all going on the grill buddy.

>>16884571
They're touching bacon, and they haven't been grilled yet. It's Gucci mang

>>16884571
>not wrapping your hot dogs in bacon before grilling them

It's like you hate America or something

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>>16884571
>criticizing the meatlord

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>>16884583
>>16884584
You trigger my autism

>>16884095
So. Someone is going to look at his Lexus tomorrow and I'll get the news overlanding whether someone accepts his offer closer to the asking price than me.

If he does, it goes to him. If not, I own the Lexus Land Battleship

>>16884798
So tomorrow you find out if you get the Lexus or become Tayburb?

>>16884943
Beat me to it.
Fingers crossed for Burb

>>16884991
Honestly a burb would fit the land battleship name better for a multitude of reasons.

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>>16885000
Tay-conderoga?

For those whomst don't get the reference:
[spoiler]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Ticonderoga_(CG-47)[/spoiler]

>>16880928
Part of me wants to buy it purely to make people mad, is that a bad reason?

Put seriously, other than some reliability issues cropping up, what is wrong with it?

>>16885000
Definitely. I can see the advantage of having an overlander long enough to land a small commercial airliner on. Especially with some Ford parts swapped in :')

>>16885025
>trying to climb a hill in your front wheel drive Fiat
Next OP

>>16885029
No you're thinking of a land aircraft carrier. That would be a single cab flatbed.

>>16885044
Kek, good call

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>>16884345
>>16884375
>>16884382
>>16884407
>i voted centipede
>haha! you support a lie and slander - clearly you support shkillitoris!
>nah i just like nip cars
that's enough /pol/ for me today.

>>16885029
Did you know the USS Ranger was one of the first aircraft carriers?

Anyway, I think the USS Airship Carriers are all Fords now. So umm. Like. GMC BTFO.

>>16885036
> implying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYjwG4sFyhM

il y a un FJ40 en Quebec
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-autos-camions/granby/toyota-land-cruiser-fj-40/1247814690?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

$6500 for an FJ40 in otay condition 550km away from me. road trip down to get it instead?????????????????????????????

>>16885060
Gerald Ford. Not Henry Ford, you fucking autist /k/ommando

>>16885009
He he he. Ticonderoga
That's better than fucking land battleswift.

>>16885073
>parking on arbitrary obstacles in your front wheel drive fiat
Heh

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So since I blew out one of my 31's, and am on my back up 30's. I was thinking, because I really want to diesel swap on 35's-37's and 1 tons, But I was already planning on buying some 33's in a little while, say 6 months, That maybe I should wait longer, save up and buy 35's, a ford 8.8, and gears. What do you guys think? I would be more prep'd for the future swap, when my 4 banger inevitably bites the dust, with a 8.8, and the tires already, not to mention It would hype the build up and make me go through with things.

End goal is something like
>4BT
>Front 40/44, rear 9 inch
>AX15/nv4500 trans
>np205/stock np231
>35's-37's

What are your guys opinions? I want overkill, on a budget, if that makes sense. 10k budget.

>>16885183
hey look
the stinger actually came in handy for once instead of all the /o/tists yelling that it's useless.

>>16885201
No it didn't, it looks bent but it ain't.

>>16885183
The TJs in my area cost $8 000 for I6s sitting on d50s and 35+

Have you considered just buying another Jeep and using the money from selling your ol' yeller to supplement your new YJ/CJ/TJ?

I would buy the shit out of these Jeeps if I didn't have to highway so often. ):

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>>16885278
I have, but a yj would be waaaay cheaper and I would loose so much money on it If I sold it to buy another. leaf springs are easy, no computer bullshit and minimal accessories. Plus muh ol yeller.

>>16885297
Iunno senpai. Putting 10k into a jeep seems a bit excessive tho...

Ol yeller is sure a beaut with her little idiosyncrasies like setting off car alarms and what not. But am I the only one who doesn't get too attached to their vehicles? I mean, I'd sell Taynger the moment I don't need a trucc and want to offroad hard

If you're dead set on that, I'd save up for that diesel swap, then. But aren't engine swaps incredibly annoying in Cali, too?

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I'm new to /org/ why is there such a confusion about burb vs. Land cruiser?


I would have figured there were obvious pros/cons making one slightly worse/better?

What are the arguments?

And why the burb over the Tahoe? I thought they were the same except size, wouldn't that make the Tahoe better?

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>>16878245
What the actual fuck? Tinfoil to reflect heat back to engine? Gay ass low resistance filter to drink some water in a puddle or feed engine some delicious dust?

>>16885637
>autism: the post

>>16885637
a) that's sound deadener you nonse. And an engines ability to regulate it's own heat does not come from ambient radiation.
b) I'm absolutely with you on the filter. I can only hope it's swapped for a proper sealed airbox and paper element for anything other than dynos and blacktop.

>>16878245
This picture makes me happy.

>>16883302
Don't even need roof basket for a Suburban. Unless you're not going alone I guess.

Speaking of Suburbans, my '96 has a dead engine and I ordered a used 6.5td.
Anything I should order and replace on the "new" engine before it gets put in my lovebox?

>>16878289

Get a not modern Cherokee with 4.0 engine and 4x4 and with the money you'll save you just fix it up how you please. You could have the comfiest nicest Cherokee and still be capable off-road

Then boom you'll have a sick vehicle no matter what you do to it. Obviously plenty capable off-road stock


Stay away from the New stuff, this isn't even a meme. Just don't.

>>16886011
Duramax clutch fan and HO water pump.

>>16886554
Also get a good warrantied PMD relocation kit. Some of them have lifetime warranties.

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>>16885946
>that's sound deadener
Wow, that's smart! It's not like sound will come out from sides of hood or even go through back of engine bay.
What the fuck are you talking about? The only use this would have is in a cold environment to keep engine warm longer. Shit is retarded.

>>16884018
Which Fox shocks? the 2.0 front coilovers? the DSC resi's? Extended travel rears?

Throw us a fucking bone. I assume from the price you mean you got the front coilovers.

>>16886575
>implying there isn't heat and sound insulation on the firewall
Serious question Mr shitposter, have you ever lifted the bonnet on just about any factory car ever?

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>>16885453
Yeah, 10k is a stretch, but that is the max I would spend most likely. And considering it would become more reliable, faster, better on the trail, and be a really good learning experience, I think its worth it. The swap probably wouldn't happen for a couple more years though. Like when I'm out of college and have worked a couple summers and during school. Plus I work at a very reputable automotive shop right now so, I don't know, I have the Minds of guys who have build custom rat rods, and 1300hp dagsters at my disposal. Plus a jeep homie. Like every time I think about it I'm like, nah it's waaaaay too much, but then I remember how fucking crazy it would be. I don't know, I got a little while to think about it.

>>16885545
The size difference between a Tahoe/Land Cruiser and Suburban is negligible in 99% of situations, but the Suburban offers more power and a significantly stronger drivetrain that's conducive to reliable operation even with oversize tires and abusive driving over rough surfaces while often being the cheapest option available.

Packing up for oberlanding. Which one do I take out, /ORG/?

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>>16887358
Whoops. Forgot the picture

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>>16887863
bottom left of pic
delete this mang

>>16887888
Uwu whats wrong
ECKS dee?

>>16887995
box with label
nevermind
i doubt you're asian

>>16888046
>tell my friend to get me some beers
>accidentally dox him on a Chinese cartoon image board

10/10

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>>16887888
R8, trip8s

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>>16888088
how much buttfuckin goes on in the back?

>>16888088
Ah cool is that a Famas?

>>16885183
Full width Dana 44 and 9" ford rear aren't 1 ton axles. You need Dana 60 front axle and a Ford 10.25-10.5 sterling or GM 14 bolt FF or a Dana 70 rear...

>>16889669
I was going to post this. The D44/9" is closer to 1/2 ton, although I was going to add for a YJ with the intention of running 35" tires, the half ton axles are still comfortably well within their capability.

>>16889669
>>16889777
He was saying he'd like one tons with 35s, but was considering a compromise at 33s with the 44 and 8.8, because he could do that sooner, rather than waiting for the tons. Just to clarify, based on my understanding.

>>16889870
Yep, that's what I gathered. Regardless of his misinterpretation of the label "1 ton" his choice in componentry is apt.
If I was him, I'd just replace the 31 for the time being and work towards the end goal of being able to run the 35-37s ultimately desired instead of fucking around with a stopgap measure that's still just as elaborate.

>>16885183
May as well link YJ guy.
In my opinion, I think you should do this stuff I said :') >>16889901

>>16885183
Buy a GM 6.5 instead of a 4BT. They weigh the same, the 6.5 makes nearly twice as much power and runs smoother.

>6.5 TD with trans and t case - $500-1500
>dana 60 - $500-1000
>overkill crossover steering - $500
>14 bolt - $150-300
>gears and install kits - $600
>lockers - $750
>H1 wheels and tires - $500

$3500-5150 for far more power than a 4BT, locker and geared 1 tons, and 37s on double beadlocks.
Fuck a $10k budget.

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Toyota master race

>>16890046
Literally kill yourself.

>>16890132
>jealous you don't have a Suburban with some parts from a Ford truck and a GM 3/4 truck and 4 years to build a Landcruiser beating machine
Toyota fangirls

>>16890132
Why would I do such a thing?

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>>16890098
everything about this pic made me diamonds untill I saw the lightbar

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>>16885453
>am I the only one who doesn't get too attached to their vehicles?
you just havent gotten attached to a vehicle quite yet. you have yet to buy a vehicle for other than a utilitarian purpose. that 80 you are about to buy is because your soul is commanding you to buy it. sure you need it for practical reasons, but thats not the reason youre about to pull the trigger. give yourself a few months with it and you wont be able to even consider giving it up. just watch.

-drunk blg

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>>16890308
>tfw no 37s
IM GOING TO KILL MYSELF

>>16890322

>not having 1 tons and 37s

It's like you hate America or something.

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>>16889669
Ye, 1ton is like waaay more, and a 9 inch and 44 is better budget. I know I said 1tons, but that was like super build theory.

>>16890046
Those prices are unrealistic, but yeah I have considered a ton of different diesels or even gas motors, but so much support and information for the cummins, and that means easier compatibility with other parts. So yeah the 6.5 would be bad ass but it's not the same, and less reliable, by a small margin. 10k was the estimate if I did rebuilds, and steering, and other smaller things that would improve it. Plus possible labor casts if I need help.

>pic related, by poor 4 banger with tons of blow by

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>>16878245
>Trying to climb a hill in your front wheel drive Land Rover

wat?

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>>16889910
>>16889901
>>16889870
>>16889777
>>16889669
Ye, sorry for the miscommunication.

3 linking the front was also a consideration, because it would only cost me about 2k or a bit more to custom fab one with my friend. But thinking about that, doing the fab for a d30, with intentions of upgrading the axles, no matter what axles, would mean restarting.

I didn't mention the 3 or 4 link idea up front since I wanted opinions on that but, if I rebuild my 4 banger, just do 33's and chromoly shafts, I would just start going for the front link.

>>16890383
>Those prices are unrealistic

My 6.5 was $300, Dana 60 $600, disc brake 14 bolt $200, gears and install kits $500, my 14 bolt had a factory locker and it was $330 to Spartan lock the 60. The last set of H1 wheels and tires I bought was $150.

Those prices are not only realistic but easily obtainable without even doing too much shopping around. The only one I think is off is the $1500 upper end for the 6.5, trans, and t case. If you pay over $1000 for that stuff you pull yourself you're getting ripped off pretty bad.

I have spent more than that on steering BUT that's including the full cost of the parts and labor for setting up crossover on the 50 and full high steer on the 60.

The 4BT is reliable in stock form but once you get it up to stock 6.5 power levels they're about the same. Biggest difference is the 4BT just costs a lot more. I think the last one I saw on CL was $3k and needed a rebuild.

>>16890458
Not from what I've seen but thanks for bringing that to my attention, and I'm not a power freak, but I could consider it. What did you do your build on?

>>16890387
>remove rear driveshaft
>shift into 4wd
>yfw you now are diving a fwd landrover

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>>16890480
Why would you do that? New to the thread. Also considering a purchase of a 110 double cab td5 pic related. In reality I would have different alloys/bigger wheels

>>16890480
This.
>>16890489
>why would you do that?
Probably because it sheared off one of 24 spline axles the rear Salisbury diff and you have to limp it home.

>>16890156
I'm actually a member of the master race of Jeep. So again, literally kill yourself.

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>>16890098
What brushguard and winch is that?
Want to get something similar for my 1985 chevy blazer.
How much should I expect to spend on a 5000lb winch and a brushguard?

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>>16890475

1997 Suburban k2500. Of course there are other areas where I've spent tons of money so my project has been far from cheap but I've sprung for a lot of extras while building it.

As far as gathering the stuff to slap locked 1 tons under a YJ with a GM diesel drivetrain, it's easily doable for about half of your budget if you're rushing to get all the parts as past as you can. If you buy stuff as deals pop up you could potentially do it for around a quarter of your budget.

>>16890512
>Suburban vs. Landcruiser = Jeep loses

>>16890514
>5000lb winch
I hope you have no intention of using that as a recovery winch. Or you accidentally typed "5" instead of "9"

>>16890505
Either uprated/strengthened halfshafts making something else go bang or, take existing half shaft out and mill down at the axle end to engineer a weakspot. That way when it breaks it's at the hub end and you dont have to strip the whole axle down to knock the broken piece out of the diff. I get what you are saying though they go bang scarily easily.

Is there much hate on LR here, everyone seems to be into Jap and theres not much of it in the UK

>>16890576
Lol, honestly, if left standard Landrovers are relatively "bulletproof". If you start trying to run bigger tires or lockers without changing much else is when they start becoming troublesome but the same could be said for a lot of 4x4s. From my minuscule experience with Salisburys the carrier bearings, axle spline area and axle housing tubes (where they slip into the pumpkin) are the weakest points, but there's plenty of aftermarket to amend this and companies like Ashcroft seem to be the go to guys these days. At the end of the day the Salisbury is based on a Dana 60 centre so there's no reason they can't be built into a stout piece of gear.
While I once lamented Landrovers, these days I've become somewhat Rover-curious... May God have mercy on my soul.

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>tfw
>20pt turn on a trail

>>16888921
I wish MAS made civilian arms...

>>16890308
Lexus confirmed btw. So uh. Otay.

>>16891074
>Lexus confirmed btw. So uh. Otay.
That is magical news. When's she get picked up? What sort of "attention" does she require straight off the bat?

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>>16891074
Whoops wrong picture

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>tfw
>took 30 seconds to upload pictures
Bls work

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>>16886011
See:
>>16886554
>>16886567
Take the PMD and relocate it some place out of the engine bay. Behind the bumper gets plenty of airflow, but is exposed to the elements. In the passenger compartment is dry and stable temp-wise but you will need a cooling fan.

Have a replacement PMD on hand and always go for the lifetime warranty ones. It WILL fail, it is only a matter of time. Also a good idea to check the harmonic balancer.

Burbalade is doing a 6.5 swap. He may give advice if asked. I already have one installed so I can't help you there...

>>16885545
>>16890132
>>16890156
>>16884345
>>16884316
>>16883302
Can't this war just end? I don't want to sit out of another thread...

>>16884798
Do we have an update on this? Who got the battleship?

>>16885000
>>16885029
>>16885060
I remember a standup sketch where the guy referred to his burb as an Aircraft Carrier
>Long enough to land planes on
>Can seat a small city inside

>>16885453
>Excessive spending on vehicles
I don't want to know how much getting Murphy's 110v electrical system the way I want it is going to cost... All I know is it won't be pretty on the wallet.

anyone have an air horn installed
i'm looking to install one
but i don't want a brit squeaker
i'm looking for one with a deep tone

>>16890706
They had a lot of reliability/build quality issues but here in the UK they are the best when you factor in
Servicing - parts are abundant, rotors/pads can be done yourself all round for £100 using OEM
Residuals - Once they hit £7.5k (TD5 90) or £10k (td5 110) they dont go lower

Only downside is the low power, ok on torque (300nm) less so on bhp (120bhp) but fit a VNT turbo, larger intercooler, better air filter, remap and 200 bhp/450nm is not only achievable but reliable. To do that yourself will cost ~£1k without the remap (costing £3-400 extra)

Also I've never seen one snap in half like some of the American off roaders do

>>16892375
>Can't this war just end? I don't want to sit out of another thread...
That was my idea behind this OP... I'll have to keep pushing those positive vibes.
>>16892486
The factory power figures may sound low, but for this sort of vehicle they're adequate. I wouldn't be putting any bets on a 200hp TD5 in terms of duty cycle and longevity in adverse conditions. That's a fair whack of power to be pushing out of an agricultural 2.5 for anything but the odd highway overtaking maneuver.
Chassis wise, they're tough enough.

>>16892547
>That's a fair whack of power to be pushing out of an agricultural 2.5 for anything but the odd highway overtaking maneuver.

Except the td5 engine is a 6 cylinder BMW engine with a cylinder chopped off to fit under the bonnet. The reason it is tuned so poorly is because it is designed to be capable of running on low grade fuels. The tuning market on these in the UK is quite popular with 200bhp being the "safe" limit - know of a few in excess of 130k miles in that tuned state. 250 is possible but longevity, not so much. It also helps drivability -less stirring of the gearstick = increased MPG which is a bonus even if you don't drive them for the economy.

>>16892375
>Can't this war end
That exactly what I was getting at when telling you to kill yourself for suggesting that someone who wants to build a Wrangler should get a gay ass suburban.

>>16892436
Hornblasters Outlaw is a nice budget option.

>>16892648
>Except the td5 engine is a 6 cylinder BMW engine with a cylinder chopped off to fit under the bonnet.
Ah, no it isn't. It was developed by Landrover before they had anything to do with BMW.
AFAIK it was based on an already existing motor.

>>16892666
I recommended an alternative engine swap for the YJ. No one told him to buy a Suburban.

>>16892695
On further inspection; >>16892648
It was indeed "based" on the L-Series engines.
According to Wikipedia it was developed alongside a 4 cyliner 2.0L and a 6 cylinder 3.0L. But when BMW bought them out "they brought their own range of diesels which rendered the 2-litre and 3-litre Storm engines unnecessary"
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rover_L-Series_engine
Again, I guess it depends on how those 200bhp examples are driven, treated and loaded. I still remain skeptical constantly utilising that sort of power when the going gets tough.

>>16892717
My mistake then. Probably shouldn't post while drunk.

>>16892737
He should buy a Suburban though.

>>16892726
Found the exact same link... My bad we are sort of both correct. BMW bought land rover and bought the TDV6 in the dicovery/RR sport (same chassis/different body) well they didnt have conventional chassis but you get my point.
The L3222 Range Rover had the TDV8 and both engines, or certainly the TDV8 are plagued by turbo failure, both of which are either body off or engine out jobs. Typical for BMW engines of the '00 era.

I actually really would like an L322 but plagued by engine reliability/air suspension failure to the point that air compressors are service items replaced every 3 years.

Now that Ford own LR they are fitted with the TDCI puma engine/'box from the transit vans which have no end of problem. Early TD5's dont take the tune well, you need a 2003 or later engine with revised manifold design as these warp even in standard tune.

Also I think they sound good for what is basically a tractor engine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpVvQYKVimo

>>16892803
Actually, the TDV6 was a Jaguar/Landrover joint venture designed motor that came during the Ford era, and the V8 diesel also didn't have anything to do with BMW either, but I'm not sure on the origin (presuming another Jag motor?).
From memory though some of the earlier D3 platform Range Rovers may have had the BMW six?

All said an done though, the best diesel motors for a Land Rover are Isuzu diesels.

>>16892840
Im thinking of the TD6 which was the BMW engine. The others were Jag/ford/LR development I think.

The Isuzu is rated highly over here by farmers for its carrying capacity but engine conversions are more costly than it would cost to tune the TD5. In an ideal world the 3.9/4.2 V8 petrol from the P38 would be the best whichever the one is where the cylinders dont go bad

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>>16892840
p38s had a BMW six-pot diesel as well, here in the UK at least.

anyone /p38/ here?

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>breakover angle

>>16892769
I'll buy one for a tow rig with a 6.5 swap lmao

>>16890539
how much for either?
Also the previous question
>what brushguard and winch is that, how much do they cost?

>>16878245
>married together

No racemixing!

>>16893165
used to have a 4.6 HSE, until too many things started breaking

i tried to convince my dad to put the motor into his MGB that he was restoring, but he wasn't into it. he rebuilt the stock one instead :P

>>16894007
Do it yellow Suburban guy.
>Yellow 1 ton 6.5 Suburban towing yellow 1 ton 6.5 YJ

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Has anyone here built a chassis jig before?
I need to build one for a project, and I was wondering if it's difficult

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Hey look. I found reception.

>this hill
>ifs
>:^(

>>16895454
Gay. I've climbed rougher hills in my all stock, all season tires, IFS, Plymouth neon.

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>tfw you took ur 2wd wheeling after work on some easy backroads and dirt trails just for the joy of it all
>tfw ur tires are sorta muddy so it looks like you did some real wheeling
feels bredy gud family

>>16893165
Yep, aware the P38 had the TD6.
>>16894120
Ebay 9-12k lb winches aren't a bad bet these days, and will run you about $300-400 landed. Look for Runva or Tigerz 2. The rule of thumb with winches is you want them to be rated at least 1.5 times the gross vehicle (or combination if you tow a trailer offroad) mass.
I'm pretty sure that brush guard is a home fabbed job.

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>>16895488
Is it gay that I had to use the winch to get up the hill?

>>16895570
On one hand, you got up the hill.
On the other it just means you need more mods.
Unless of course you're 2wd......

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Dear /ORG/

I dun fucked up.

I bought a 2014 GMC Sierra today with 4WD. I was sitting in my driveway and put the truck in neutral and shifted it to 4-low. I cannot get it back out of 4-low now and can't figure it out.

If you guys don't have anything I am taking it to the Chevy dealership down the road from me in the morning. Hopefully they won't charge me a "nominal" fee to get my truck out of 4-low.

>>16895584
I'd say it's just the drivetrain binded up and needs a little bit of low speed left/right action. Might be an electronic switch...

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>>16895576
Idunno senpai. There was a 9 inch piece of granite on an 80 degree slant on the right side.

You'd charge at it going 15 and freespin your front tyres (since there was legit flowing water down the rock) and when you press on the brakes at where you're freespinning, you'd have your tyres locked without momentum but the angle makes you slide down 5 inches to the winch spot. My friend on 35s couldn't do it.

And I'm not putting 40s on Taynger.

(especially since Tay-Conderoga confirmed ;)

>>16895638
Tayburb when?

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>>16895576
BLS
DON'T MAKE ME CRIE

[spoiler]lmao captcha was mountains[spoiler/]

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>>16895657
When I move out of the city and annual insurance can't buy me two suburbans...
RIP Onterrible.

How come you barely ever see people wheeling things like 1-3rd gen Pathfinders and other pre-2002 Nissan stuff?

>>16895584
Shift into 4hi then 2wd. You can't go from 4lo to 2wd.

>>16895702
fuggg. It's $300/yr to insure my Suburban.

>>16895732
Because you can't get to the shit they're wheeling in, so you can't see them.

>>16895732
Because they can't get to the shit you're wheeling in, so you never see them.

>>16895832
Kill yourself, reddit.

>>16895839
Sober up, BLG.

>>16895806

Tried that. Followed the manual, tried everything. Ever tried tapping on the actuator motor with a small hammer.

Stealership in the morning.

>>16895702
Wut? I thought Lexus Cruiser was confirmed?
>>16895732
I see heaps getting out there. Particularly the D21 "lunchbox" Pathfinfer/Terrano and the D40 based R51. Don't see too many of the unibody R50s going much further than a drive up the beach, and now Nissan has decided to build its pathfinder off the Altima, I think the only Paths the R52 will be finding are sidewalks.
I was actually looking at R51s when I ended up buying an NT Montero. Glad I did as I much prefer the Mitsu 4M41 over the Nissan YD25.

>>16895883
Probably just a bad encoder motor. Buy one at vatozone and try it, if it doesn't work they'll take it back. And you'll save dealership diagnostic and labor bullshit.

>>16895883
Have you tried unbinding a potentially bound up drivetrain? Eg;>>16895623
Or try jacking the front two wheels off the ground.

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Why does every jeep and truck have these wheels? Are these actually good for offroading?

>>16892375
What is that black, square thing on the top of the suburban?

>>16895928
not one scratch on those nigger rims
typical fucking jk mall crawl gay shit

>>16895822
That can buy you two suburbans.

>>16896260
Find me a $150 Suburban.

>>16895570
Tried dropping tire pressure around 16psi? It does wonders for traction, especially since Rangers tend to slide around a lot.

>>16895928
Those probably are not even real bead lock rims. Real bead lock rims are actually helpful for running low pressures and keeping the tire from slipping/breaking bead.

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>>16895584
If you didn't hit rough terrain with it, then sounds like the electronics are frayed. Just be glad that you're at your house and not 50+ miles away from your city and have this issue. Good thing you caught it "early".

On the terrain here, the 4wd system builds up so much tension that if I take it off the path, put it into electronic "2wd", then move the vehicle back and forth, it finally shifts from 4wd-l into 2wd with a really loud "THUNK".

>>16895862
Lmao.

>>16895904
It is. Also: Heh. I drove an R52 for 2 weeks once. It was awful.
What's worse was when they said "Nissan Pathfinder", I immediately thought "oh that's a Frontier body". Nope. Apparently the R52 exists...

>>16895513
Learn where you can and can't go. That's what I did in my 2wd :-)

>>16886053
There's a 1995 Cherokee near me for like 1500 with 120000 miles, should I go for it and what mods should I make?

>>16896522
It'll be cheaper to buy an already modded out XJ for like 2 or 3 times the price. You just have to wait longer.

>>16896522
>>16896535
Most modded cherokees consist of a $200-500 lift, plastidip, light bars, and a shitty stinger.

>>16895584
Seems to be a software issue with the '14's.

>>16896433
It's a real shame because the new D23 Navara with its multi link coil rear end would make a fantastic platform for a Pathfinder. Oh well :/

>>16892375
>Burbalade is doing a 6.5 swap. He may give advice if asked. I already have one installed so I can't help you there...

PMD, Duramax fan, and high output water pump pretty much covers it.
Starter brace if it doesn't have one and make absolute sure the dampened crank pulley is in good condition.

Ebay HX35w replica if you want to up the power on the cheap. Diamond Eye 4" exhaust and 2.5" crossover will help as well.

>>16896535
Kind of related but between a normal Cherokee and a stock XJ which would be preferable in terms of daily driving?

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>>16896574
It always weirds me out that international picc'em up truccs have coil rears. Almost all picc'em up truccs here are leaf spring with 2 inches higher in the back than the front.
Another thing that's weird is the short bed and mandatory "Crew Cab" option for all international vehicles with beds.

I guess you have less individuals carrying large amounts of top soil, gravel, and lumber to justify a NA / International split (or worse: THINK they'll ever carry that much shit in the bed).
See: Navara vs Frontier, Hilux vs Tacoma, Int. Ranger vs NA Ranger.


And now we have the R52...

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>>16896602
>normal cherokee
>stock XJ
Stock XJs are normal Cherokees, too!
But normal Cherokees don't have to be stock XJs...

>>16896602
What the McFuck are you talking about?

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>>16896611
>>16896611
I thought they were different becasue there were different Wikipedia articles for...

I'm just going to lurk more. I'm sorry.

>>16896661
Anon, you have to differentiate the people from the vehicles. You can only ride one of them nowadays.

XJs are Cherokees. But so are SJs and whatever other letters they have. There are also the "Grand Cherokees / Wagoneers" like the ZJs and WJs. They're comfier (very relative) but less reliable, more expensive, and costs more to upgrade.

>>16896611
There were XJ Wagoneers as well.

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>>16896703
so there were...

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>>16892666
That wasn't me. Do you think the one who preaches there's no right or wrong way to off road would really say that? Damn... now I feel cheated out of a (You)

>>16896014
That is an Air conditioner.

It's a long story...

>>16894297
This needs to be shopped...

>>16893165
The reliability may be bad, but damn do I love those. The classic range rovers too make me hard. Original disco a bit too...

>>16894120
>>16890098
Anyone else hesitant to mount a winch on their brush guard? I feel it would just rip the whole thing off the front of the truck...

>>16896727
>That is an Air conditioner.
What story? Do you sleep in the Suburban? I'm looking to buy one for that purpose.

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>>16896603
>It always weirds me out that international picc'em up truccs have coil rears.
They don't. The D23 Navara released 2 years ago was the first global Pick-up to offer a coil sprung rear, the base trade pack model D23s still have leaves. In fact, the 1/2 ton Ram was the first commercially available pickup that I know of with a coil rear end.
>Almost all picc'em up truccs here are leaf spring with 2 inches higher in the back than the front.
As do the global pick ups. At least the global midsize trucks have moved away from the older style torsion bar to double wishbone coils.
>Another thing that's weird is the short bed and mandatory "Crew Cab" option for all international vehicles with beds.
Again, that's an option. Almost all of the global pickups have three cab options on a single wheel base. Crew cab in Aus are incredibly popular as they offer one of the most versatile recreational body styles available. And as a weekly trade pickup, they tow a lockup trailer extremely well. Just need to drop the trailer for weekend antics. The majority of fleet vehicles are single cab 8' dropside beds.

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>>16896603
And your global Ranger pickup, albeit it in base trade spec.

>>16896603
And the New D23 Navara in all three cab options.

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>>16896851
fuck

>>16896790
I thought the Ford Ranger had rear coils too or was that the Everest I was thinking about?

>single cab navaras, rangers, hiluxes
wow they look so weird without the flip-up flat beds (like the one in your pic). good to know they exist, I guess. A small, modern, diesel truck in single cab might be possible down the line for me to own...
I think Chevrolet didn't make the Colorado/Canyon 2015s in single cab?

>>16896861
>>16896851
That ext. / access cab option looks really nice, actually.

What's with the international truccs and their rollbars' popularity, by the way?

>>16896583
While you're here, general opinion on eBay turbos?
Hear a lot of bad things, but I'm sure the negative opinions are always the loudest.
I recon I'll just hi-flow when I rebuild my standard turbo anyway.

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>>16896872
Yeah, just the Everest. All Ranger have leaves.
Just like all the pickup based SUVs like Isuzu MU, Chevrolet Trailblazer, Mitsubishi Pajero Sport and the like.
>>16896876
Tell you what, those dropside trays are infinitely better to work with than styleside beds. And even with a shortbed on a crewcab, it allows for a 6' wide tray. Those rollbars are normally associated with higher trim "sports" recreational models (like SR5 Hilux and Wildtrak Ranger).
They certainly make a Colorado/D-Max in all three options too.

>>16886591
2.0 ifp shocks front and rear. They're 260 a pair

>>16896939
Ah so they don't just give out rollbars to every Aussie rugbymom who buys a Hilux. Good to know. Also good to know on those back bed coils v.leaves.
I've never seen a newer 2015+ Colorado single cab though... Extended cab yes. But not single cab (yet).

Most things I've patched together from anecdotal evidence so would've never known the fold out beds were regular hiluxes even if I saw them in person. Rarely do I ever see an F-150 or 1500 with the commercial fold out access beds despite (as you mentioned) them being much better to work with. Even on fleeters unless they're F-350s or higher. Plus you can drop all the toolboxes you want onto them without ripping a hole through.

Anyway. I gotta sober up and wake up in 7 hours and try not to crash into trees
>pay $50 to ethernet in a motel to shitpost on Chinese image boards
>couldve saved $50 if sleep in back of taynger
>gets my international little trucc misconceptions btfo'd instead
Worth every cent.

>>16896997
May have just with held the single cab from the North American market. Definitely exists. I've also got a sneaking suspicion the SUV variant "Trailblazer" is going to make its way stateside in the next few years.

>>16897031
2019 ford ranger speculation?

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>>16897040
I'd speculate it'd simply be a LHD adaptation of ours with different engine options. Not 100% on the European market, but Aus Rangers only get the 2.2CTDi four cylinder or 3.2CTDi five cylinder (which is a fantastic motor btw) without a gas option.
I'd presume Ford NA will develop options very similar to what Chevrolet offers for the NA Colorado, a gas four and a V6. Keep in mind it'll have to have Bronco market friendly options too if it's going to share this platform (fingers crossed for a 5.0L, although that may be wishful thinking).
>pic unrelated, just ARB equipped Ranger

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The ARB rear bar looks nicely incorporated too.

>>16896727
As long as the bar is rated for a winch, and the mounting bolts and fixings are load rated there's absolutely no worry. It should be strong enough to suspend your car in the air.
If you're making your own winch cradle, just be sure to use at least 6mm (I'd use nothing less than 10mm) steel plate fixed hard on your chassis.

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>>16896768
>Ok, here goes:
Truck was a Wahmbulannz back when first built. The back seats were removed to make room for medical crap (with the exception of the passenger side 2nd row bench for a jump seat). That crap was removed in the back though, along with the inverter for the 110v electrical system and 2nd alternator or compressor that was under the hood. I still have the AC, some of the flashing lights, the siren speakers, the radios (gotta hook them back up), all of the emergency control equipment, a laptop mount (I removed it for now), and center console with all of the switches intact by the looks of it.

I figure I have a great base to build an oberland rig from, but some of the stuff is gonna be very costly. But first things first I need to fix all of the misc. Things wrong with it mechanically. For instance, once the weather warms up I'll be fixing my valdez oil spill coming from it.

Not having a garage, and stuck working nights really sucks. But hey... at least I was promised day shift sometime next month.

>TL;DR: Pic related is my truck 20 years ago

>>16897472
Shame you don't have the second alternator or compressor. Is there still provision to drive it under your hood?
Having a second A/C compressor is a fantastic base to build your own "Endless Air" or "Air On Board" style tire compressor. I'd hook a small
2-3 gallon tank up as a reservoir combined with 6-8cfm and have air for days.

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>>16897498
There is a dead pully where either the air compressor or 2nd alternator was, so installation will be easy. I'd bet it was a 2nd alternator attached, as there's a few wires in that area taped off and out of the way, not to mention the old emergency lights back in the day drew a LOT of power. Another dead giveaway is that rooftop AC unit. I tried plugging it into an extension cord from my house to see if it would work, and it blew the 15a fuse like it was nothing. Starting that sucker up will overwhelm the alternator currently installed.

On board air is something I want though. For now the eventual plan is 2 alternators under the hood, an air compressor in the back with a reserve tank underneath. There's enough room for whatever you want down there...

>>16897640
Makes sense. Given the vast amount of 12V air compressors these days for reasonable money, a larger charging amperage is probably the way to go. Especially with all the pattern 60mm piston compressors on eBay. I'd probably try build it into that pseudo parcel shelf along the passenger side quarter window.
If I had your setup, I'd be interested to see if there'd be a portable genset that could power that rooftop A/C overnight.

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>>16897739
Yea... that shelf is coming out and something else is going in place there... That "box" houses the blower unit for the rear heat/ac. Since I have no compressor, and the previous owner snipped the coolant lines heading back there, I figure that will free up a lot of space.

>Portable generator to power AC.
If the truck is parked, I'll probably just plug it in. I've got a 50a shore power input just beside the fuel filler. Only issue is I'm missing that Inverter. Last time I priced one out powerful enough to fire the AC up it was close to $1000. On the flip side I guess I could power my house in an outage with 2 high output alternators and that inverter...

But I digress, gotta fix the oil leak and a few other misc things first before I open that can of worms...

>>16895623
>>16895806
>>16895910
>>16895916
>>16896433
>>16896569


The dealership unfucked it guys. I tried some of your ideas. Tapped the actuator with a small hammer.

It shifts into 4 high and back to 2 high just fine. I will most likely never need 4 low so I am happy with it. Thanks for the help.

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>>16896661
Don't be sorry anon.
Your questions are welcome here.

Does anyone here actually offroad or do you all just shitpost and meme?

>>16896920

Under normal operation they're perfectly fine. If you try to overspeed it to ten times what it's rated for, it will fail sooner than a genuine Holset, and it will do so in a more catastrophic manner that will likely damage other components like wiring, soft hoses, or thin plastics.

If you're building a hybrid turbo, many of the hybrid kits come with genuine Holset compressor housings that takes care of a large chunk of the small amount of danger inherent to them. That's likely the route I will be taking with mine. $170 HX35w replica + $250 HX40 billet compressor and Holset HX40 compressor housing, much cheaper than buying a genuine HX35 or HX40 and overall performs better than either one on the 6.5l.

>>16897472

Any picture of where the second alternator or compressor was mounted?

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>>16898335
Why is it still raining.
Wtf I hate jeeps now.

>>16898438
No. Shitposting only.

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>>16898438
Ye, almost every weekend, in fact I'm going tomorrow, but yeah this thread is filled with shit posting and the serious posts are few and far between.

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>>16898659
Wet pine trees smell fucking amazing.

Last chance to s n o w r o l l this year, though. Unless I go to Nunavut or Iceland... :^)!

>not using your steel cable as a lasso
>not using frightened deer as anchors for your winch

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>>16898682
Any general that isn't QTDDTOTQTODDTTDOOTDOQDTO is like that. On every board. It's 4chan afterall.
Sides, at least we don't have the dad humour like on all the offroadforums. That and their kids.

[spoiler]not at home computer so enjoy this picture instead of Buckid[/spoiler]

>>16898682
>brake lines

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>>16898659
Sending sunny days your way anon.

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>>16898438
Yeah. Just got back. Here's Rocky Gap.
Leaving again Friday for 10 days in Death Valley.

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>>16898438
Just started, but yeah. Going back out tomorrow.

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Check for damage under suspension by snowbank parking
>i-i-i can flex too, right-right guys?
d44 never

>>16898946
Wtf I love jeeps now

Want me to mail you some snow?

Making my way back innacity now.

>>16885183
>>4BT
4BTs ruin jeeps, they weigh more than a big block Chevy.

Get a 4HE1 out of an Isuzu/GM cabover instead. It'll make similar stock power and be just as happy to 300hp, but it'll weigh half as much and not make your jeep terrible.

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>>16898992
Damn anon that some serious white stuff. Appreciate the offer but no thanks. I'll stick with sand, rocks and sunshine.

>>16898820
Don't worry dude I put the new ones on.

>>16899005
I'll mail you some white stuff, too, "anon".

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>>16898993
>but it'll weigh half as much
4HE1 - 735-803 lbs
4BT - 745-782 lbs
6.5l - 750-770 lbs

>>16895584
Put it in reverse, stomp on it, coast to a stop, and try again.

Happens to my Colorado now and again.

>>16899045

source?

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>>16898992
>flex

>>16899057
Google, my friend. Who told you a 4HE1 diesel from a medium duty truck weighed less than an SBC?

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>>16899063
>5.56 / .223

>>16899075

i'm not the other poster, i just want you to back up your claims.

>>16899083
Takes 10 seconds to google it. I'm not going to sit here and source every piece of info I give. Fuck off retard.

>>16899107

because all of your numbers are

-wrong-

>>16899112
Or because you are the other poster. I noticed you didn't ask him for a source.

Go ahead and try to disprove any of the number I posted.

>>16899112
>responds within a minute being this angry
dude it's saturday. go outside or something.

>>16899075
>>16899045
I fucked up which ELF/NPR motor I was suggesting, meant to recommend the 3.0, which is actually the JJ1.

Yeah, the 4.8 is too big.

Also "half as much" is hyperbole, it's actually like 200-250 lbs lighter.

>>16899171
705 lbs straight from Isuzu's documentation, so 40-75 lbs lighter than a 4BT.

>>16899171
>>16899215
Also:
>82 hp
>207 ft-lbs
Why? Any SBC or BBC option is going to weigh less and make significantly more power and torque while being easier to find, having more swap documentation, and being cheaper/easier to source parts for.

>>16899250
>BBC
Oh c'mon.

I don't actually /org/ but I saw this on the /o/ home page and kek'd

>>16899122

as soon as i see trump memes, i demand sources. people who post trump memes lie as much as the president himself

>>16899127

i have to head to work in a bit, so i'm enjoying the downtime

>>16899275
Big Block Chevy, not British Broadcasting Corporation

>>16899288
Trump always tells the truth, even when he lies.

Trump:
>Obama wiretapped me!
News:
>Obama himself did not physically tap into wires at Trump tower to monitor communication. Trump confirmed liar.
CIA:
>We have no evidence thus far that communications were monitored.
Social media:
>Trump confirmed liar.
CIA:
>It seems some communications may have been recorded for national security purposes. We can neither confirm nor deny these allegations.

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>>16899311
No bolitics bls. Fuck the winterball.
Shoo! Shoo!

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>>16898992
>>16899081
taylor bls. buy this instead of the land cruiser
https://reno.craigslist.org/cto/6032387407.html

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>>16899288

>>16888088

SiiK M30 promask

>>16899288
what do you do when you see shillary memes

>>16899779
>shkillitoris memes
what universe are you living in?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbYlbLSI_5I

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>>16899597
Thanks, anon. I haven't used it yet but have it hanging from my neck when I go in to inspect liquid ammonia tanks. Don't want to risk a tank burst on you without a respirator present.

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>>16900659
Also. Today I learned there exists a 5.3 V8 Colorado available in single cab.

Weird that Chebby would've made the small trucc available in I-4, I-5, and V-8 without an intermediate V or Inline 6 to buffer it. I guess such is the perils of a fleeter based market.

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camped the last couple of nights. was suber fun. unfortunately no wheeling though bc new gears werent fully broken in yet

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>>16900835
Hey anon, how's that Rtic freezer? Thought about getting one.

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>>16900909
am home now

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>>16900923

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>>16900934
you need to get more pictures of this kid
i wonder how fat he is now
maybe he's a girl

>>16899075
Not him, but i know the 4BD1 3.9 litre often put into Landrovers (which would be my engine of choice) is also in excess of 750lb, as is the 3.9 Mitsubishi 4D34. Burbalade isn't wrong when he says the 6.5 is marginally lighter than the common 3.9.
>>16899171
The 4JJ1 is a great modern diesel, but is significantly more of a project getting a computer monitored CRD to run in a vehicle it wasn't designed for.

>>16900954
http://www.4btswaps.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7348
I'll try find data on the 6.5 but from what I found looking into Landcruiser conversions the Detroit/Chev from memory ended up about 750lb and was about 2-4" shorter than a typical 3.9 four cylinder.
I love the commercial direct injected fours, but there is a good argument for the V8.

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Bitches don't know bout Dem 42s

>>16900716

Far as I know the V8 was only in extended cab and crew cab 09+.

I have a i5 in a Z71 regular cab. It's still a turd. I miss my old 4.3.

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>>16900909
its pretty awesome honestly.
keeps ice for about a week if you pay attention. just as good as a yeti i would say

>>16900923
>>16900934
idk what this is about

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>>16901010
Bitches don't know about them 49's

>>16901018
Hm. Maybe his single cab just had it swapped out which is a possibility. The weird thing was that chebby tossed in a V8 option into their compact truccs which is weird considering they skipped V6 production.

I fucking miss my I-5 Colorado. Anon if you have a spare second, could you PLEASE cold start the I-5 (under 5 degrees C) and rev the engine up to 3 000? Then post like a 10 second youtube video? I miss that sound on long winter nights waking up at 8am to the sound of my I-5 in cold temperatures and it still being dark.

>>16901010

SAS when?

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Got the Jeep nice and clean for tomorrow, don't want to hit the trail with a dirty rig. Wish I could have gotten a clean picture before dark, but my new garage kitty distracted me for too long. Cat related.

>>16901300
>>16901300
>>16901300

NEW THREAD

>>16901300
>>16901300
>>16901300

>>16901367
Thanks for nullifying my post, 15 before bump limit, dick.

>>16901387
Any time, friend.

>>16901404
You understand this means I'll ruin another 3 threads with shitposting, right?

>>16901367
why. we still have 4 posts left to bump

>>16901420
.......
why 3
who are you?
y u do dis?

>>16901429
Three is the minimum for what I perceive as a slight.

>>16901452
A light what?

>>16901463
*slight

>>16901452
what's a blight?

>>16901452
Such a delight.

>>16901452
You're not too bright.

>>16901463
>>16901476
>>16901487
Make it 5, smartass.