/ORG/ - Off Road General

the past two threads have really reaffirmed my belief that gm fangirls are autistic little shits

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>>16847259
sadly this

why do we have to fight about stupid shit on /org/ anyways

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>yfw the best of Toyota and GM is brought together in hy matrimony

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>>16847287

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>>16847248
>making an edition about circumsized suburbans

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And now with Duramax Safari/Patrol

>>16847291

Is that mini V twin looking thing a belt driven air compressor?

>>16847367
Given that it's got a pressure release valve on the manifold linking to two cylinders, I'd say so.
Custom on board air compressor setups are common on Landcruisers in Aus, although they're usually made from an old air conditioning compressor.

m8s why are 2 door tahoes so incredibly hard to find cheap and in good condition? it's either 10k plus for a clean model or 1k for a rusted to piece of shit

>>16847402
Supply and demand. Weren't many made compared to the 4 doors.

>>16847413
>>16847402
Landcruisers are better value than Tahoes.

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Sup faggots. I'm really more of a street guy, but I shot this vid of a meme Jeep and an actual Jeep at the Chicago Auto show going around an obstacle course and I was curious on your thoughts about it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GUakh6gP8k

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>>16847455
NO HAB LAND CRUISER

>>16847621
Both of those vehicles have a lot of compromise for the road

>>16847637
Such as?

>>16847644
Tyres

>>16847621
They both look like shit to me

>>16847690
So trivial shit. It's still impressive you can readily buy a factory consumer 4x4 with four link coil suspension at both ends.

>>16847704
You look like shit to everyone.

>>16847722
>tyres, literally the most important part of the entire suspension/steering arrangement
>trivial
Ok. I mean I'm sure it's impressive but one is not the "meme" Jeep and one is not the "real" Jeep they're both road cars dude

>>16847722
Does Jeep even make anything with a solid front axle anymore?

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>>16847750
>>16847792
>/o/ is crying about jeeps again
lol welfare wheelers enjoy your 30 year old rusted garbage because apparently they were all so good they stopped making them

>>16847750
I should've said superficial. A consumable that's changed within half an hour, that's almost always unsuited in factory form regardless of manufacturer.

>>16847792
Yeah, the four link Wrangler we're talking about.

>>16847690
You say that as if tires and wheels can't be replaced.

>>16847817
I have a Jeep though. I just wanted to know.

>>16847830
I know they dropped it on the grand cherokee but I wasn't sure about the other ones.

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The snow's melted in the crawling place in mid-Onterrible. I might have a contract up there and might need to drag a few litres of berry solvent so I'll see what the offroad conditions on the guy's farm is. Last time the storage area was a downslope that was accessible either from an ATV trail or from the backroads (so guess which one I took to his storage).

Anyway, if it's just soft dirt, it'll be cushioned well enough from the packing snow. If that's the case, I'll try and get some Taynger rock climbing pictures and see how much breakover angle she has.

>inb4 taynger snaps in half
>inb4 the back window gets rekkkt'd again
>inb4 i cry
Enjoy this 2-6 weeks of weird, clay consistency Earth, /org/! You only get a limited amount of time on it.

>>16847248
>"Tayposter"
lmao. literally why.

>>16847287
I would love to toss a 350 into an old hilux actually.

dude imagine a stanced 1st gen hilux with a ramjet

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>>16848334
>dude imagine a stanced 1st gen hilux with a ramjet
Are you in the right place, anon?

>>16848356
Probably not. What's this general about?

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>Continuing to lurk in the shadows until this war between the Birbs and Yodas blows over

How many threads has it been now? 3? 4? 5?

>>16847248

GMT400s look so much better with straight axles up front

>>16848403
This is the fourth.

>>16848375
Is this bait?

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>>16848403
There is no war, yota smashed and birbs are just whining.

Either way, I wish we could come together to shit on jeeps as much as possible, as is our custom...


Does anyone have any opinions on which aftermarket part makers are the most sturdy? (Winches, bullbars, etc)

>>16847817
Pic related

>>16848427
Winches are fine with any company.

I would recommend a fab for a solid bumper but bullbar and or tube works well for economic protection.

>>16847817
>>16848427
>shitting on jeeps
>ober trail rated
Well they might be shit. But name 1 other mass manufacturer of modern vehicles in North America with a dedicated market for offroading.

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>>16848441
Fair, but judging by the recent shit jeep has produced besides the wrangler, I don't know if you could call their market "dedicated" anymore.

Pic related. It might could handle stuff like the RAV4, which IMO is just a crossover, and only flirts with ofrroading

>>16848495
Oh lmao. You weren't here when the renegadefag spanned 3-5 /org/s posting pictures of built Jeep Renegades and saying they were offroad worthy. I was almost certain he was trolling but you can never be too sure anymore.

Anyway, the wrangler sells because icon and how a lot of people still like squarebodies. Too bad they're all driven by 40+ year old minority mothers who get scared and confused if you even attempt a jeep wave.

Anyway, the Rubicons are still pretty trail-capable whilst stock and aren't too much of a tweak to fit in 35+ tyres. Though, with the price of the modern ones, it makes no sense to do so... I still laugh every time a Wrangler has the "Trail rated" badge on the side. It's like they forgot the years where "Jeep" was synonymous with "trail" and now they have to put a badge on them to let people know they're still capable of hitting trails.

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>>16848427
Can't go past ARB bullbars for OEM quality, high clearance and ability to barge its way through the scrub.
I'd like to say Warn winches are the best bet, but honestly the current Chinese eBay winches are quite proven these days. Warn still offer the best after sales support and replacement consumables. If it was me, I'd buy a secondhand Warn and rebuild it.

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The Prado/GX looks fantastic with an ARB.

>>16847867
No, i don't, but you're such an expert that you think tyres don't matter right

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Even Suburbans benefit from them.

>>16848593
You completely ignored the conversation chain. Good job. >>16847824

>>16848599
>completely ignored the conversation chain
Past 3 /ORG/s summed up in a nutshell

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>>16848613
Fucking ROFL

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Gen 2.5 Monty looks the goods

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Hello

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>>16848667
Sup

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>>16848646
How are Mitsubishi/Suzuki? Any negatives for taking care of the brand, or any notable problems for parts, etc?

Can't remember where I heard it, but weren't samurais supposed to rollover at the slightest turn?

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>>16848441
>>16848495

>>16848882
Never owned Suzuki, but Monteros are a bit of a sleeper. Almost like an indirect Toyota competitor that falls somewhere between Lanscruiser and Prado in size. Big drivetrain (relative to their size Mr Burbalade Shitlord) that's similar size to the J80 crown wheel with an 8" diff up front and a 31 spline 9.5" up the back. Their V6 isn't anywhere near as hardy as the Toyota 4.5 six, but it's revvier and more playful which is handy in the dunes. Honestly though I wouldn't go past the light industrial 4M4x diesel if talking about Mitsus. They have a torsion bar front though... :P

>>16848900
I'll also note, in terms of sixes I still prefer the Toyota 1FZ or Jeep 4.0HO in terms of an offroad power plant (if talking gas) compared to the Mitsubishi 6G74 V6.

going to Rausch Creek. anyone ever gone though there?

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>>16848403
I'm just waiting for the niceposting to come back

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>>16848334
>stanced

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>tfw the ARB bumper for your truck is the only one out of their catalog that looks stupid and actually reduces functionality

Shitsux. The taco, landcruiser, and others all look great. This retarded fat lip monstrosity makes me want to die.

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>>16849539
Me too. Remember when we were all friends and actually shared routes and compliments?

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Absolutely annihilated the left wheel bearing on Big Red last week. Opened the old dog up in the shop last night and found out that both my front and rear sprockets are also way overdue for replacing, the chain has worn itself so far forward that the sprocket teeth are catching and grinding on the links. Replacing the rear sprocket is no big deal but to get at the front sprocket I have to remove most of the sub-transmission, lame.

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>>16849901

>>16849797
Is that squatted?

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>>16849905
RIP

>>16849901
Oh hey trike bro. Glad to see you back-
How did that happen? BC lacking snow or som?

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>>16849797
I miss the good ol days

Seriously, though, in-fighting that just never stops is how a lot of generals end up dying out, and I want /org/ to continue growing till we're big enough for meets

Which reminds me, SoCal /org/ meet when????

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>>16849915
I just drove across BC to Jasper, AB last weekend, plenty of snow left across most of the province, but it has left the Fraser Valley where I live, so no more frozen pond drifting for Big Red this year. I'd blame the wheel bearing failure more on age more than anything, this thing is 35 years old and I have no idea when the bearings were last replaced, but I'd guess it has been a very long time. Mud, sand, and shit works it's way through the chain guard and brake drum into the bearings, through the seals, and eventually eats the bearings away until they're small enough to shoot out. Once the bearings fall out it's game over and the axle grinds the race into a mangled mess. As for the sprockets, also age, but I have to take a bit of blame myself, I didn't lube the chain once all winter and rode the shit out of the thing, probably sped up the wear significantly. Learnt my lesson, the burden of taking apart the subtrans should be enough to remind me to lube up more often in the future.

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>>16849962
Driving through the Thompson-Nicola region in the winter is a strange experience. Normally the Thompson and Okanagan regions are more of a desert than anything else, in the winter it's this strange mixture of sage brush, dead cacti, and snow.

>>16847704
literally no one cares what you have to say

>>16850008
lol you mad jeep faggot?
I gotta admit I like the XJ tho, excellent truck.
Anything else from jeep I just don't care for tho

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>>16849908
Nope. Rear currently sits about 1/2" lower.
New front springs. Waiting to see how they settle and respond to front winch.

>>16850115
> tripfag
>can't spell though
seems about right.

>>16850125
So it is squatted, just not by as much as it appears to be in the picture. I doubt the winch will do more than a half inch. You'll probably need to bring the rear up 1-2" even after the springs settle.

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>>16850137
Agree. Just going to install a longer lift shackle.

>>16850130
Are you 60 or just autistic?

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Four door Tahoe reporting in. I love this thing. Got it for $1k and still going strong. Owner thought 4x4 needed repairs cuz 4hi and lo weren't engaging but it was just the stupid dash buttons that needed replacing. Works pretty good as my hunting rig.

Needs a lift of some sort because of these stupid huge tires the previous guy threw on here keep hitting the wheel wells when off road. What's the best way to go about some lift for cheap?

>>16850594
yiff in hell

>>16850594
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evPchGEWUjE

>>16850605
>wait through the entire intro
>just turns into shitty punk
thanks for wasting my time

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>>16850616
if punk isn't shitty, it isn't punk
that's what makes it good

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>>16850623
>punk Tay
I can't stand alt girls but she could actually pull off the look pretty well

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>>16850623
should've PS a turbo on here arm tattoo

>>16850596
The offset wheel is hurting you more than tire diameter is. If nothing else you can block the rear to level and maybe turn the keys up an inch or so.

>>16850594
>can't properly use language to communicate
>asks me if I'm the one who's autistic
ok tripfag

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>>16851136
just got my truck back today after the regear
beyond excited
rides like a racecar now comparatively, still in the break in period though so need to take it slow

>tfw noticed this as soon as i parked it
that rear heater bypass ive been putting off just jumped to the top of the list. leaving in less than 3 weeks there is so much to do fug

>>16851204
Autism it is, I see.

>>16851239
>no you
ok tripfag.

>>16847248
>having doors at all...
>master race.

Wewlad. Pick one.

4x4 blower biggy with 750 shot of nos master race checking in

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For those here who do "serious" offroad; do you guys use your DD's, or do you have cars dedicated specifically to offroading?

I would love to get mine properly kitted out with bigger tires (nothing fancy, 33's), some sort of locker (unsure if I should go with airlocker or Detroit) and a little bit of a lift, but I also don't wanna damage the car as its my daily driver and I'm quite dependent on it

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>>16851277

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>>16851278
i dd a 1995 80 series on 35s, 4 inch lift and just went through a regear with a spartan autolocker in the rear
bumpers, sliders and roof rack coming next.
dding it is no big deal at all. only thing that sucks is gas mileage.
whats holding you back? unless you're doing serious rock crawling and you dont drive a total piece of shit iw ouldnt think youd have much to worry about

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>>16851341
Well, offroading here is pretty much illegal outside of a very few designated areas that are open only for events that last a few days each, a few times a year

I'd hate to go there, have fun, do something retarded like shredding the absolute shit out of my diff, crack the prop shaft or something similar, and end up being stuck with no working vehicle

And I also feel like a dedicated offroad rig allows you to go a few more degrees crazy with both the driving and the modding

>>16851391
yeah you definitely have a very different situation than us in the US.
if i could only go off road a few times per year then id probably just rent one of those buggy things or something. otherwise yeah i guess a dedicated off road rig would make sense if you were rich. kind of hard to justify though since youre only using it a few times per year

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Our old plow truck, its "custom". Now it needs a transmission and is probably going to get scrapped.

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Our old plow truck. 94 Blazer with the back of the roof cut off and a silverado cab back wall welded in.

>>16851544
>>16851565
reported stolen

>>16850598
Not that I want to defend crum, but isn't half this board a closet fur?

>>16852545
No, but there is a good majority of shitposting by a couple losers, trying to act like they're the norm.

>>16851391
How helpful is the community over there?

There is a dedicated ORV area about an hour and a half from where I live. If anyone gets stuck, others in the area are quick to help out getting you out.

Back when I had my YJ, I took it up there. The radiator ended up breaking away from the mount and committed suicide straight into the radiator fan. I was towed from the park to the staging area by a stranger. Random people in the staging area helped me out by lending tools and giving moral support. When it turned out the radiator wasn't salvageable, another complete stranger drove me back home while the park rangers kept watch over my Jeep (overnight parking there isn't normally allowed).

I bring up my story because in your situation, where you can only off road a few days per year in select places, it would probably bring out people that are more than capable of helping out someone in distress. Would the people there rally together to help out there like they did for me?

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>>16851576
>Stolen

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I got some seriously rusted screws/bolts that need to come off. Has anyone used PB Blaster?
Is it as good as everyone says?

>>16852893
pb blaster is really good. make sure you spray the fuck out of it then let it rest for 15 minutes before you do anything.
with some really fucked bolts ive just sprayed it every day for like a week straight then gotten it off with a cheater pipe

>>16852893
What >>16852906 said. PB blaster works wonders IF you let it sit for a little while. If you give it some time to penetrate the threads then it's a life saver on older, somewhat rusted bolts

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>>16852893
Didn't have any for my Dana 50 tear down, but did for my Dana 60 which was in much worse shape. Great for rusted nuts and bolts, especially larger ones that are torqued to a high spec to begin with. Definitely makes a noticeable difference in overall ease of disassembly.

>>16848556

What chink winch would you recommend?

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>>16851278

I use my DD

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>>16852974

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>>16852951
Come Up winches are great quality, Runva Winches decent too and cheaper.

>>16852974
>>16852995
Are those Arctic Trucks?
https://youtu.be/nm9z01NnSRE?t=2m49s

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>>16852906
>>16852944
>>16852947
Right on.
Thanks guys.

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Im wanting to get a cheap off road SUV, currently looking at terranos 2.7 or cherokees (xj). what does /ORG/ reccommend?

also in the Babby's guide to off rooading, what do I need?

>>16853069
Where are you from? Both cars are notorious rust buckets.

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>>16853069
get a sammie
perfect for fundamentals

>>16853034
Heat helps for exhaust bolts as well. And wire brush and clean the exposed threads as best you can so they'll turn easier when you g through

I PRETEND I LIKE TO /OFF ROAD/ BUT REALLY I JUST LIKE TO GO CAMPING WITH OTHER DUDES AND THEN SLEEP WITH THEM IN THEIR TENTS HAHAHAHAH OH GOD YES!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>16853086
NZ, roads don't get salted salted so thats a bonus, but shit still rusts.

>>16853183
eh, good to have a camp bitch around.

>>16853148
a friend has an SJ40 that he might want to sell, anything to look out for?

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Did my first bit of wheeling with my grabber at2s on some power line trails while on vacation in rural KY. Stockish height e-locked 3rd gen 4runner. Did fantastic, wasn't really traction constrained anyways but in a few spots where I would have struggled with all seasons these things just dug in. A few technical spots that tested articulation and approach/departure angle, ended up scraping my hitch cover off on one sharply angled ditch crossing. Another rutted spot where I just about got crossed up but didn't need to engage the locker, just a bit of wheel spin.

>>16853183
You forgot your trip, Cummy

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>>16851278
I drive muh trucc 100-300km and then offroad at the destination. Sometimes for work, othertimes because there are multiple trails nearby. Most of the time for both. Sometimes I like to take backroads to get there but other times I'm too busy to turn a 3 hour trip into 9 hours so I have to take the highway.
32 inch tyres running 16MPG non-loaded.

Define "serious". I considered lockers but it's just so impractical for the amount of highway driving I do. If your DD is under 10k, you can have some leeway in abusing it. The occasional broken window or fender scratch is just part of the offroading lottery.

>GET YOUR TICKETS HERE

>>16851224
Where did all these issues just come from?
Who are you?
Is it bottomless shrimp season yet?

>>16852616
holy kek lmao

>>16853198
Ocean spray. Due to the high humidity and warm temperatures, it can be even worse than cold salted cars in the Northern countries.

>>16853148
bost copypasta

>>16852951
any non-branded from your local hardware stores and offroad store. mine is called "tundra testicle" or something like that.

>>16853183
wow that's pretty gay dude

>>16851391
>offroading here is pretty much illegal outside
Doesn't Norway have a right to roam or something? I guess roaming doesn't include vehicles.

>>16853899
Yeah but there's also arctic flora that takes like 5 years to grow 1 cm. You can't even walk on certain places due to microscopic flora protection acts

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1991 Subaru Sambar reporting

you dont know hell until you do a 700km trip in -20c through the snow in one of these things

>>16853069
Get a Cherokee if you're not a fag.

>>16853946
WHY!?

>>16853923
Sounds like California turned up to 11. Feels bad man

>>16853946
Alpha as fuck

>>16852893
That's not a bolt, it's a stud with a nut. The threads in your picture don't need to come out, only the nut.

>>16852951
A ssb said before, Runva seems to be pretty well proven, or even the Tigerz

>>16853069
The 2.7 Terrano is a safe bet. The 2.7 diesel itself is literally a TD42 Patrol engine with two cylinders lopped off.
I'd get a 2.8 Pajero though, bigger drivetrain, more interior room with a similar footprint.

>>16853021

yes they are

>>16853012

Yeah come up winches are one of the best ones out there, expensive as fuck too.
Runva you say, gotta look in to those.
Smittybilt no good?

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>>16854693
Don't see why Smittybilt wouldn't be any good.
Also, check out the Tigerz

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The new Sherpa winches look interesting too, particularly their twin engine model.

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>>16854890
Keep in mind that almost every chinese winch is variation of same basic winch that is known under "electric winch" brand in China.
Smittybilt is great choice too, but as far as i know they come close to warn in terms of price.

Chinese winches are... fine... if you understand what you are getting. Even if seller tells you otherwise it's always a good idea to disassemble new winch and lube it properly, check seals, add sealant if needed. They won't last long if you plan to use them OFTEN, like many times during every time you go wheeling. But they will be good choice if you are not planning to get stuck at all but rather want to feel confident that if it will happen you will be prepared.

>>16853946
Beats doing the same in 2wd shitbox.

Sambar is rather well designed vehicle, engine in the back gives it decent grip on rear axle.
Not sure about your sambar, but one i drove had 4wd, power windows, a/c and airbag. But yes, your back won't be happy it wither way. They just were not built for long highway runs.

>>16855030
Absolutely agree. Pull most of the Generic 9000lb or 12000lb Chinese winches down, and they're identical. I guess there's not too much variation on triple stage planetary winches these days.
As I said earlier that I personally would prefer to buy a second hand Warn and rebuild, knowing I had parts and service backup that'd make the unit last a lifetime and having something that'd handle a higher duty cycle (not that I'd come close to it, I might be lucky/unlucky enough to need it once on a journey).

>>16854545
You're an idiot.

>>16855152
Prove me wrong.

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>>16853021

>>16855071
the Warn 8274 is the best winch ever made
They just cost a ton

>>16855430
Fuck off. This winch is not for conventional use. It's for sport or just people who like spending gorilion money on anything they buy.

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>>16855469
>>16855193
Looks like a silver back gorilla. Except red. And not fuckable :^). Wish we got Hiluxes here...
>The official topgear magnetic north pole
>& ey-
>& eyefall-
uh

>>16855030
>>16855071
My fab had a theory that all recreational winches come from the exact same factory in China. They're one of the ONLY things in the world with a standardised bolt shape and measurement.

Plus that three gear planetary / disconnect option is just too similar across all "brands". There could just be a conveyor belt with different accessories, casings, wires, etc upgrades that drives pricing up from $150 to $1000. Then they can retail them for up to $4000 for some raisin.

That being said, my shitty winch has been getting me up harder to climb hills pretty well. All the accessories are absolute garbage and I'm thinking of just soldering in the winch connexions since they've disconnected by accident before. But other than that, it's been used in the hard winter 50+ times without issue in the past 3 months. I've even accidentally snapped the hook onto my bumper at close range before.

>>16855430
>I sold my 8274 for $75

>>16855801
>Warn 8274
>get hopeful of price decrease
>go scope out the local 4x4 store
>$2500CAD
If you buy it back, I'll give you $450 for it.

>>16855823
Needed solenoid housing, solenoids, motor, all new wiring, and a cable.

>>16855795
she used to be so cute..
w-what happened

>>16855944

overexposure

>>16856405
yeah...

see:
http://www.speaker.gov/general/12-taylor-swift-reactions-president-obamas-free-college-idea
>speaker.gov
>taylor swift GIFs
>"FOR YOU"

Is there ever a reason to get a ZJ over an XJ? I feel like dding an XJ will be really annoying unless you put half a fortune into upgrading the shocks.

>>16856624
Comfort and price if you're not modding it. Also some places have XJ droughts for some weird reason.

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>2 feet of snow a few days ago
>first time I haven't plowed with the Bronco

Honestly, the tractor does a much better job, but I miss plowing with the old girl.

>>16855795
There are hilux in the US, I have one

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>>16856687
>tfw two last winters have been terrible, with about 35% of the snow we've had previous winters

>>16856687
Aw. The first year is always the most difficult when you leave a vehicle. If I was slightly rich, I'd probably keep all my vehicles I have ever bought in some sort of large garage just so I can nolstalgia from time to time.

>inb4 kill yourself faggot

>>16856699
No one cares, you degenerate hipster.

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>>16856699
tay's a leaf
lol rip any vehicle

>>16856725
P sure they were sold in Canada too, senpai

>>16856709
Ya, the last two winters here have been complete bullshit. We got more snow in 2 days then all season last week.

>>16856712
I still have it, I can never part with my Bronco. It's just missing all the plow gear, and has a broken radius arm and a broken driveshaft. Someday I'll fix it, at least that's what I keep telling myself.

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>>16856725
>toyota
>canada
>more than 10 years old
good one, m8

>>16856699

Not ones younger than 25 years

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>>16847248
Finally found a decent place to go offroad for a few hours here in KY. Stopped here to remove my rear shock that broke loose and was banging around, figured I'd snap a pic.

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>>16856990
There were a few mud holes I couldn't resist fucking around in on the way back. Didn't take any pictures there, but here it is after getting home.

>>16856999
Whereabouts in KY?

>>16857559
I live in Richmond, the trail is in Mt Vernon.

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I need some advice. I have an 07 FJC that just received a new remanufactured tranny. I purchased this FJ in SLC in 2012. Utah salts the shit out of there roads so there is some rust underneath, but the original owner seemed to have done a pretty good job at cleaning the undercarriage.

Upon driving it back home 200+ miles I noticed an exhaust smell. I though it might have been the semis exhaust I was smelling. Well it wasn't. It was definitely my exhaust. I also noticed the sound of the exhaust leaking. So I took it to a muffler shop as the bolts were rusted solid. They got the bolts tightened down and they welded the connections together. Drove it and the smell is still there. It's not as strong and the exhaust leak sound is not as prominent.

Any ideas? Sorry for the shitty structure. I'm super unsettled.

>>16857793
cat. converter maybe. can you smell the NOx gases? or is it like a dark sludge kinda smell?

>>16857894
It's more of a basic exhaust odor. I thought about the cats, but the exhaust from the tail smells spot on. If it's the cats, wouldn't it smell like rotten eggs?

>>16857929
BUT it does smell a little different than the tailpipe exhaust.

>>16857929
NOx has a hard, pungent smell. I deal with nitric acid occasionally and smell it in moderate doses. It's really hard to describe odours but I'll try:
Sharp, pungent, acrid, like a more sour acetone. NOx is hard to miss and I wish I could teleport some over to you right now so you get a waff of the cat's tail.

It smells nothing like an air-chocked fireplace/ campfire which could be another issue. Does it kinda remind you of a diesel coal-rolling kinda smell or more of a chemically smell?

>>16857963
Closer to coal rolling. I originally thought it was the semis exhaust.

>>16855430
Too heavy in my opinion. Otherwise they're the single best competition winch chassis ever made. Incredibly modular with lots of aftermarket customisation potential.

>>16858007
Yeah probably not a cat, then.
O2s checked? Incomplete combustion would be my first guess.

Bomp

>>16858007
Check the O2 sensors and replace the spark plugs. Could have some caked on shit in the heads or injector computer issue, too which isn't uncommon.

Well - it is rather uncommon for a 2007 yot but that's a potential.

>>16847248
Why are aftermarket differential covers 2 or 3 times more expensive than the regular cast iron ones I can find around amazon and ebay? What is making people buy differential covers for that expensive and how does this market sustain itself? People don't see your shitty fucking covers.

I should just make myself a titanium piece that covers the entire diff and axle at that point instead.

>>16853332
lol they didnt just come from anywhere. its a 22 year old truck. it has a few minor problems nothing serious. bypassing the rear heat is something people do regularly just to simplify the cooling system
and i wish

>>16853946
lol
kind of mirin truck though
looks cool

>>16854890
>>16854899
i had p good luck with one of those harbor freight winches a while back
was slow as fuck though

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>>16858110
>>16858345
Weeeeeeell shit. Fuck it. I give up. I'm taking it in.

>>16858413
I know this is ez to say retrospectively... but why didn't you take the OBD to the guy before you bought it? C'mon, m9.

>>16858407
Lockers on the LX are standard, btw. Rear locker is not locking but the computer is registering it - i thought it could just be a solenoid replacement and he said the same thing.

A/C condenser needs to be replaced, too so that's like $300. What's that on the LCs?

The huge thing pushing me to get this LX is that he has 10 years of service records from his one mechanic that did all the jobs save a few oil changes he did himself or at an oil changer for like $30 because it was too cold outside.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsY3kB8WNtY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w5WDbPMbjE

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>>16858438
sorry man
i'm not following you
are you asking why i didn't just scan it in the first place?
i'm super flustered sorry

>>16858480
I just feel like that sort of issue would've been caught before you purchased the vehicle: >>16857793

Unless you "received" it through other means? If you didn't get a chance to see it before you bought it (or even paid for it), that would explain a lot. Just trying to piece these together, too.

>>16858405
What cast iron ones are you seeing? Most factory covers are thin stamped sheet metal. Most aftermarket are at least 3/16 steel plate or cast iron and are $80-120.

Where are you going to get enough titanium to plate an axle for that much?

>>16858520
Ranger covers are like $80 from amazon/ebay when this aluminium one is $240 when the cast iron ones are like 180-200. why do you even need the rear diff. cover to be sturdy? When are you ever reversing into rocks often enough for this to be an issue?
https://www.amazon.ca/Proform-69501-Aluminum-Differential-Stabilizer/dp/B005AUAOLU/ref=au_as_r?_encoding=UTF8&Make=Ford%7C54&Model=Ranger%7C696&Year=2010%7C2010&ie=UTF8&n=6948389011&newVehicle=1&s=automotive&vehicleId=1&vehicleType=automotive
>muh ford aluminium

I also just have a huge sheet of titanium lying around and steelworkers won't touch it because it's difficult to work with. I also get lowballed offers when I try to sell it so it's just sitting around doing nothing.

>>16858544
Aluminum covers are for heat dissipation, not protection.

Look for ones made with steel plate if you're wheeling and want it cheap. Being small, you might be able to get a weld it yourself kit to build one for $50ish.

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>>16858514
oh
i've owned the vehicle since 2012
i just got a new reman tranny installed
then this happened yesterday

>>16858572
Fuck that makes sense now. Geez, I get more retarded by the day.

Is it worth just literally attaching a flat plate the the bottom of the differential that doesn't even protrude much from the ground? These diff. covers I can find online are all over $300 due to the custom made tax. I have an oxy acetylene supply at work so I'll be able to use that to probably make some strong connexions. I'll just get the $80 standard steel cover and use a street sign diff guard reinforced with titanium or something like the hicks do around here.

>>16858574
Ah that makes a lot more sense. Just misread the "took it home today" part. Yeah seems like a mech issue. Sorry anon.

>>16858438
have you seen it yet?
judging by what you are saying if it is actually relatively rust free you definitely need to buy that truck my man. oem lockers are worth their weight in gold these days. the locker rebuild is not that bad to do and i would bet you dont even need to do that. a lot of the time they just need to be "exercised" just go find a dirt road, and do a bunch of forward/reverse figure 8s. id be willing to bet it locks up.

honestly im not sure what the a/c condenser runs, i wouldnt be worried about that at all though desu.

service records are the most important thing there is man this thing just sounds better and better.

check typical problem areas as well:
phh
head gasket (if it hasnt been replaced yet at that mileage you will absolutely have to do it)
it will guaranteed need a knuckle rebuild but that is a pretty simple diy job
etc.

let me know if you have any questions but judigng by what you are saying i would probably buy that truck.

>>16858591
Ford 8.8? I'll see if I can find one.

>>16858601
trucc me, baby.
inspected head gaskets - no surface rust so unless he autistically flipped them upside down to show them to me, they should be fine. a/c could just be a $300 at his mechanic which i might take him up on doing since that shit's hard to get into. solenoid i should be able to repair myself.

The steeringwheel squeeks a bit when turning. A full left to right turn has around 4 squeaks but i'm sure i can spray some WD-40 somewhere or everywhere to fix it. The turning is really weird since you turn the steering 50% to go like 10 degrees and the remaining 35 degrees are turned from the rest of the 50%. It'll take some getting used to so that's just what was included in the "TLC". acceleration is really strong on these lexuses. they don't limp like the yotas i've driven which is pretty odd. brakes have a weird braking in point but he has service records of new calipers, pads, and E-brake from last year.

The 10 year service record is honestly the best part of this entire deal. He was second or third owner and has dealt with all the gremlins for the past 10 years and never really took it offroading or workhorsing (plowing, towing, etc). Sides, what is the towing capacity on the suspension? Can it be upgraded if I get the V8 swap or does the suspension only hold 6000~ lbs?

all you can eat shrimp season when

>>16858639
Yupp - that'd be fucking sweet. These Ebay ones are like $80 CAD and $40-50 shipping which is rather annoying.

Fresh FJ45 pickup with no rust in CANADA
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-voiture-collection/laval-rive-nord/fj45-toyota-land-cruiser-1968-fj40/1243079421?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

$28k worth it but I'm not sure I'd ever offroad this thing. Even with the snorkel.

>>16858678
$140 gets you an absolute overkill 3/8" steel cover with 1/2" steel ring and a fill plug.
$60 gets you a 1/4" cover with 3/8" ring in a kit you weld yourself.

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/88DCOV.html
https://www.bluetorchfab.com/collections/differential-protection/products/btf-ford-8-8-kryptonite-differential-cover-diy-kit

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>>16858678
not even any surface rust? god damn man that is incredible. if the hg has been done already you are set. if it is the original one it will most likely need to be done very soon even if it looks fine.
who cares about steering wheel squeaks lmao. but yes i feel you on the turning it is deliberate and something that takes getting used to.
as for the acceleration, if you are comparing it to other toyota land cruisers it should be the exact same. the motor, transmission, drivetrain and everything are exactly identical. if you mean other old toyotas than yeah its lot different. the old 22r putters were total dogs (not that 80s are fast but comparatively its like a racecar.)
im sure they brakes are fine, even if theyre not its an easy job.

and youre exactly right about the service records that is so amazing to have. is there an hg service in there?

is the suspension stock? i thought i remember you saying it has an ome lift, maybe i made that up. either way it should be fine with 6k lbs but i would be very wary and go slow, that is not something i would want to do regularly. not only bc of the suspension but bc of the fairly sluggish motor.

all you can eat shrimp me up bls. i got kicked out in college bc i wouldnt stop ordering. to this day that is one of my greatest achievements.

>>16858756
>getting kicked out of buffets
I knew /org/ were filled with fat people. How do you deal with your man titties bouncing around on rocks, /org/?

>>16858987
lol red lobster isnt a buffet. its bottomless shrimp, step up faggot
and im actually in good shape now. was a bit of a tublord back in the day though

>>16858732
Ah the 60 is armour, isn't it? So I have to get the cover by itself already? The 140 is nice but after shipping of $70 and conversion, it comes to around $240USD after the "FACEBOOK" discount code of 10% off. That just puts me to exactly where I was before ):

Thanks anon. I really appreciate the help, though. I'm going to bookmark this when I'm not belligerently drunk.

>>16858756
Well some mild surface rust but i couldn't even pick it off with my nail. So it was alright. What hg work do I have to do? Aw. But baes been lambasting me about muh Ranger ride quality. The squeaks would probably annoy her. Aw.

Yeah I was considering acceleration on the 60s to the 80s. They actually have a decent kick in first gear that I'll have to get used to and not waste gas even harder. Brakes are always an easy job compared to offroad gremlin wiring, mudding gremlins, and anything to do with gears whatsoever. (as you probably know)

Suspension has 3 inch emus and he's running KO2s right now on them. I might just switch out the KO2s and put them on Taynger and put the Duratracs on the Lexus if I get it (looking more and more likely now). The KO2s + shocks themselves are worth $1500- $2000 new so yeah.
Rust along side the rock guards (or whatever the ones attached to the body are called) but I think those are easy to replace? I could literally just grind them off in the spring and weld some additional metals under them or something.

I'm just afraid what this vehicle will run me later down the line with rear and front bumpers with winch and lights. Fuck me up. Another $3000 in the hole?

How the hell did eating shrimp get you cucked out of college? literally why. Fucking tublords.

>>16859718
No the one for $60 is a cover, you just have to weld it together yourself.
Replaces the factory cover.

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psa: tay is gay

It's so nice to see this on its own containment thread now:
>>16858285

>>16860338
Holy shit toyotafag is still flustered from the last thread. I didn't think it was that big a deal.

serious question why does everyone love jeep, my friend has bought two and there are always braking down and costing heaps too fix. I know of like 3 other people that have had problems with them?

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>>16861400

>>16859718
gotcha yeah who cares about surface rust though
as for the hg, it is the 80s achilles heel. the 1fz has an iron block and an aluminum head which expand and contract at different rates which causes strain on the head gasket. typically it needs to be done every 200k miles or so, sans that the engine is pretty bulletproof though.

drive down here and we can do ours together, mines going strong right now but its something ill need to tackle within a few years. here's a thread on it: https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/head-gasket-thread-for-the-faq.71980/

i feel like its something just outside of my skill level but im willing to attempt it.

if you are planning on getting front/rear bumpers then yes it will likely be another $3k. these trucks are world class in durability but even the cheap ones aren't really cheap.

also i worded that poorly haha, i didnt mean i got kicked out of college for eating too many shrimp, i meant while i was attending college i got kicked out of the red lobster for ordering too many bottomless shrimp

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>>16861400
Hmmmm, sounds more like your friends have a problem knowing how to purchase a good used vehicle.

>>16861589
What if the surface rust mixes with the aluminium head and makes thermite and blows up my engine?

Anyway, that's really good to know. Do people switch out the heads or are there no aftermarket demands to justify the meticulous mating for these old engines? Are the FZs still being produced now? Maybe worth the trip if you can get a 2 for 1 deal on head.
>UZ SWAP WHEN
>after the regearing :^)

I'll see what my Fab can make in terms of the bumper. Base price should be around $1000 for the front again and I might try my hand at electroplating titanium or copper onto a bare steel bumper before painting it instead. Might be super worth.
He also has a trailer hitch bolted into the frame which means I have a rear recovery point so no aftermarket rear bumper for a while.

Ask GG-Deuce for shrimp. She has a shrimping company like that autist in Forest Gump.

Is there such a thing as a 3-door 4x4 that's cheap on the used market in Europe, gets decent-ish MPG, is reliable/easy to repair, and is tolerable on the roads?

Probably something like a Suzuki Vitara (Geo Tracker) or an Isuzu Trooper?

>>16863373
yeah. both of those.

>>16863373
Two door XJ?

>>16859768
Ah, gotcha. That's why the thing is so cheap.
Why don't they come in whole parts though? Is it so you get a bit more expansion leeway?
The USD conversion really kills so I may just have to get it via some autoparts shitty store here in CAD ):

>>16863373
Do you just need something small and build it yourself?

>>16863699
They also sell one prewelded but it costs nearly twice as much.

https://www.bluetorchfab.com/collections/differential-protection/products/btf-ford-8-8-kryptonite-differential-cover

A lot of guys that buy them have welders but don't have the CNC and brake to cut and fold them nicely. This is just an option to save money for those guys.

>>16848427
>Does anyone have any opinions on which aftermarket part makers are the most sturdy? (Winches, bullbars, etc)
I weld all my own bullbars/bumpers, but so long as you respect duty cycles, I've yet to be let down by any winch, not even Chinese shit like Champion or Traveller.

>>16849756
>tundra
My condolences.

>>16863732
Oh it just saves the machining separate diff. cover prices and lowers the manufacturing pricing. Yeah that makes a lot more sense.

It looks like I would just wait for a cheaper one to come on Ebay in my country ): Thanks for your incredibly quick and helpful responses, anon.

>>16863647
Thos are pretty rare in NA let alone Europe.

>>16863781
>those are pretty rare
I suppose that's really the reason I made it a question. Didn't know they were considered rare here though. There's at least thirty 2 doors just in my small town.

>>16863827
Well "rare"-er.
>search Jeep XJ - 100km within Toronto.
>no hits
>oh otay.jpeg
refine:
>search Jeep XJ - 500km within Toronto.
>30~ hits
>select 2 door
>6 hits
>one of them is a rock crawling CJ-5
>5 two door XJs and all 60mi from downtown core
L E A F C U C K S
E
A
F
C U C K S

>>16863373
3 door Pajero II?

>>16863373
What you want is a SWB Montero. They meet absolutely all of your criteria.
Look for the larger 3.5 V6 or 2.8 diesel.

>>16864351
Fark, hivemind. Note to self; make sure to refresh page before posting.
>>16861589
Honestly, I wouldn't touch that cylinder head if it's not giving you any grief. Unless you overheat that motor there's no reason for that head gasket to fail, and should last the life of the motor. You'll probably find you'll create more problems by unessesarily pulling it apart.
If it overheats however, you'd have a snow flake's chance in hell being (as you mentioned) an iron block/alloy head.

>>16864867
how do you overheat the motor on a land cruiser barring coolant issues?

>>16864934
Barring cooling issues, how do you overheat anything?

>>16864934
Simply put, you don't. Only really cooling component failure can cause this, which due to the nature of the vehicle can happen.
I'd just avoid using no name eBay components like waterpumps, radiators and the like, replace components at the first sight of aging.

On a semi related note, I had an acquaintance with a turbo diesel Montero who replaced the water pump with good intentions. Although the cheap cheerful pump he fitted ended up failing a bearing seal and 2 weeks later, within 15 minutes into a journey it had thrown a few litres of coolant out through the pump snout running the head out of coolant while under load and boost... The melted material between the valves was cringe worthy.

Interesting read on post asbestos headgasket material though, there may be some merit in changing a HG as a precautionary measure.

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>>16863283
>What if the surface rust mixes with the aluminium head and makes thermite and blows up my engine?
OH FUCK I FORGOT ABOUT THAT

never heard of anyone switching out heads i dont think that would be worth it. fz's arent still being produced unfortunately. especialy bc i really like it as a platform
>tfw magnusson just recently discontinued their supercharger for it

a UZ swap is a wet dream of mine. one day.
i cant tell you how much the regearing has improved the truck though. its so much better now i almost cant get used to it.

$1k for a custom front bumper sounds pretty good. if you go that route let me know how it turns out id be super interested.
i found these super beefy bolt on recovery points if you want to use those for the front (and maybe the rear) until you get bumpers. i have a pair on my front end.

but wait does she actually have a shrimp compnay? isnt that the bitch who said she was going to shoot my truck? will her heartlessness ever end?

>>16849756
lol that looks like the 100 series one.
i dont think it looks that bad but i agree its not one of their best designs. there are plenty of other manufacturers though why dont you look at something else?
also, fuck that other guy i love gen 1 tundras.

>>16864867
totally agreed. some guys do it as preventative maintenance and while thats tempting, i highly doubt ill get around to it until i get symptoms one day

>>16864934
its hard to do, but you can overheat it if youre towing on a steep grade.
otherwise though the most common causes of overheating are headgasket issues which fall under the realm of "coolant issues"

>>16865022
>there may be some merit in changing a HG as a precautionary measure.
lots of guys do it as preventative maintenance. i understand why but im just not sure i have that in me haha

>>16865131
>i highly doubt ill get around to it until i get symptoms one day
I think that's a pretty good move. There's not much point in tearing down an otherwise functional engine when there's a lot of potential to stuff it up reassembling.
>a UZ swap is a wet dream of mine
Really is a shame it was never a factory offering in the J80. Although I'd look at turbocharger the 1FZ personally :P
Other neat diesel swaps I've seen/heard of (apart from the factory offered 1HD which is a godly motor) are Mitsubishi 4D34, Isuzu 4BD2 and the 6.2 and 6.5 Chevrolet diesel which is common as muck in Ausfagland.

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>>16865131
>UZ swap

>>16865220
Poor doggo. Getting buttfucked by a furtripfag :(

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>>16847248

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when you get your axel in and it says in big letters "made in india"

>>16865205
agreed and it looks like it sucks ass so i dont want to do it anyway haha
ive seen a few 1fzs with a safari turbo which is incredibly sweet. woudl love to get my hands on a trd supercharger. too bad its like $5k for the kit.
theres a million diesel swap options available as well too many choices

>>16865220
im not sure how to respond to your post because i cant tell if that dog is laughing at me or excited or about to sneeze

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>>16864946
>>16865022
My old 2wd Colorado (do not cry) used to oberheat if I brought it over 150 on the highway for more than 10 minutes. I'd have to either bring it down to 120 for 10 minutes or just idle on the side of the highway for like 2 and the gauge would fall back down.
I-5 sounds and feels great but she's was an abusive mistress.

Also when it comes to most automobile things that keep your car operating, I feel like one should never cheap out. This just reinforced my ideology.

>>16865131
>thermite land cruiser heat death
>land battleship commits kamikazi when you push above 160km/h
Yeah she has a shrimping company. Pic related.

Know what would've felt better than regearing? UZ swap

Know what's better than all you can eat shrimp? Buying your own from G-Deuce's shrimping adventures.

Don't you already have a bumper though? I'll let you know what my fab quotes me but because he literally makes them from bare steel, all of the bumpers he warps are roughly the same price. Though, I would probably want some rock guards for the lights and that could push the price up +300 or +500. Keep in mind this is in canuck dollars which means you get an automatic 25% discount.

Also overheating on a steep angle is a common issue, too. I forgot about that.

>>16865668
Would an increase in BHP increase the tow rating or is the suspension simply not built to handle over 5500lbs?

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How you holding up there, /ORG/?

I'm going up north for trail riding for once. This time for leisure and a good use of my Sunday. I'll try and get some great pictures and the melting snow should make it like 2x more difficult to get around the bend(s).

7PSI MASTER RACE

>>16865964
Tow ratings are more based on brakes, transmission, t case, suspension, and torque curve than BHP.

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I'm picking up a mint 2008 gx 470 with like 80k, so basically a Prado 120/4th gen 4runner? with more leather. Sometimes they are cheaper than the 4runner with equivalent mileage/drivetrain which is weird. Doesn't have that 4runner/Taco Tax. Gonna turn it into my wood grain warrior, overlander. I sat in one before and that shit was comfy ass fuck. Gonna be my ride from Tejas to Alaska/Canada. I hear the 4.7 is Toyota reliable, not the best, but good. Way better than my 3.Slow in my 94' 4runner. Thinking OME 2.5'' lift some ARB metal front and rear and the wheels/tires/sliders/9k winch from my 4runner which I'm donating for parts to my buddy and offroad partner.

What do you guys think about them? Prado or GX. Just looking for a second opinion before I shoot.

>>16865986
>brakes
e-brakes hooked up to dolly or trailer solves that issue
>transmission
yeah. this and the suspension was my question regarding the land cruiser
>torque curve
shouldn't that be negligable when lowgeared AWD?

>>16866021
Tow rating is tow rating regardless of whether or not the trailer has brakes.

AWD if anything hurts tow rating. You're not expected to rev it to the moon for boosted launches to get a trailer moving.

>>16866015
>mint
did you check for repaint and can you scratch off the wax? 80k and 2008 shouldn't be an issue (especially in TeXXXas) but better to be sure than anything else.

GXs are built off the Land Cruiser platform that were never offered in the US. Not 4runner as far as I know so you're getting a good dealio. The only difference is the leather, upgraded suspension, and body with a lot more annoying curves.

If you think they're comfortable now, wait until you put on the old man emus or bilstein shocks on them. I would recommend bilstein more because I have more experience with them and their anti-rust properties over the ARB owned OMEs. others say there's literally no difference and i would trust that, too.

What Prado are you looking at?

>>16866052
Torque split? Or is that not really relevant because the thing your towing literally has 0% of the shares?

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Hey guys, just checkin in, got some more photos as well today doing a solo run. Parking a jeep how it should be parked

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>>16866073
been thinking about doing some suspension changes at some point. But I don't know, still gotta save up to buy some 33's, gears, and possible a front locker. If my motor doesn't give out by then. Been getting a TON of blow buy.

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>>16866090
I love this little jeep, just as much as I hate it.

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>>16866099
Last one. Trail is Black Mountain, in Ramona California. 2WD friendly.

>>16866066
More curb weight due to AWD system with the same GCWR = lower tow rating

The only time AWD could help is traction limited launches which as far as the NHTSA is concerned, you should not be doing to begin with, especially with a trailer.

The issue isn't so much getting the trailer up to speed as it is stopping it, controlling it, and your drivetrain not failing under the strain. While trailer weight distribution is probably the single largest factor in control, tow vehicle weight and wheelbase are close behind.
If I had to guess the limiting factor for a Land Cruiser, it's probably brakes with pretty much everything else not too much further behind that.

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>>16865964
>Know what would've felt better than regearing? UZ swap
fug

but nah, no bumpers yet. next purchase i make will be a front bumper though. torn between an arb and the slee shortbus. i like the way the arb looks better and that it has more deer protection but the slee has a much better approach angle and its made better.

yeah let me know what he quotes you, the only thing im against is full tube bumpers. they just look like straight up ass to me.

>Also overheating on a steep angle is a common issue, too. I forgot about that.
im definitely overblowing most of the "issues" with these trucks too, i just want you to know what youre getting into. they are pretty much bulletproof unless you are a total retard for the most part. that said, they do require more maintenance than a lot of trucks but if you keep up with it, theres no reason you wont get upwards of 400k out of it.

an increase in hp would definitely help but thats not necessarily the determining factor. the stock suspension was built to handle 5000lbs iirc but you have ome on yours so i wouldnt worry about that.

>>16866196
>dual coilovers
>both bolted to a single shear bolt

>>16865131
>uz swap
Not even suburban baiting, but why would you do a UZ swap when you can do an LS swap?
>more power
>good reliability
>parts everywhere
A uz swap seems folly in comparison.

>>16866268
Might as well just do a Suburban swap for the same reasons.

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>>16866303
>suburban baiting has forever ruined talking about GM anything

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>>16866268
well we can argue about reliability all day and night but that is something to consider. (not insinuating ls motors arent reliable btw just that i think the 1uz is more reliable.)
that aside, personally i like a more oem feel. ive driven an ls swapped cruiser before and while it was awesome it just didnt feel like a cruiser to me. in addition to that a 1uz swap just looks a lot cleaner. ls swaps usually look like a swap while the 1uz looks like it came from the factory like that.
if im completely realistic with myself though i would probably just do a full rebuild on my 1fz + add a supercharger and call it a day. even that though is years and years away from coming to fruition. im basically just stroking my dick here

>>16866347
and whoops i mean 2uz-fe, not 1uz

>>16866347
I mean, it's not like the 80 came with a V8, what makes the UZ more of an OEM feeling engine?

>>16866385
because its still a toyota engine? they put it in the 100 series land cruisers.

>>16866347
Put a towing cam in the LS.

>>16866399
So you saying it is more OEM because when you open the hood it still says toyota on everything? If you wanna be a purist, that's fine, but I don't see the point desu.

>>16866411
He wants to be a purist, but doesn't want to admit for fear of being called a Toyota fanboy.

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>>16866411
haha im saying its more oem because it is literally from the oem. yes its not the engine that came in the truck but its like its brother. where as the ls is an entirely different beast. the truck feels a lot more composed and oem with a 2uz swap than an ls. that is just my opinion though, ls swapped cruisers are cool too.

>>16866347
Put a 6.5 diesel in it. It's a common enough conversion it might as well be a factory option.

>>16866196
Ah I'll let him know, then. The solid bumper on Taynger was v. cheap so it could run you like $800 for bare bumper painted (USD). He provides the underbite bumper like on the J40s or FJ45s which I first didn't like but holy FUCK are they a help in mud. You can actually STAND on the bumper which is very help for recovery.
If it was like $1000USD, you wanna give me $250 to drive down there, big boy? Or are you cumming up?

A unimog can tow like 2x its capacity without issue so why not a Land Cruiser? :^)
>VEHICLE OF WAR

>>16866124
Alright... that's good to know. I probably wouldn't be towing an RV with it or anything but might tow Taynger around (or vice versa since she has a stupid 2500kg of towing capacity, too) on a dolly with e-brakes if need be.

I know a guy who used his 4.0SOHC to tow a 1500lb trailer and a camaro 1000km one time. He had to do 3rd gear on the highway but it was done without "much" issue.

>>16866268
Have you ever done a non like swap before? Like put a Cummies into a Silverado? The connecting nipples can run you anywhere between $200-$2000 where same brand could be $0-$500.

>>16866416
By all rationale, I should hate GM the most since I own a ferd AND looking to get a tay yoda.

But I've been GM all my life with an Astro, Venture (lmao no balls. sry), optra, and Colorado. Damn I miss the sounds of that I-5 on a cold winter night and 3am ice recovery because I was trying to show off to a girl how to offroad then calling her a taxi and my friend with a winch when i failed and finally never talking to her again.

Man I'm way too drunk on a sunday night.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbqGWTxwZEA

Anyone here have experience with xterras? I have been looking to buy a cruiser but I saw xterras are pretty cheap. Just wondering if anyone has any first hand experience

>>16866429
>>16866495
But unless I'm missing something, isn't a V8 that never came in the truck anyways just as different to put in as any other V8 that also never came in the truck? I mean, they even have adapters to bolt the LS to the stock transmission.

>>16866504
Same platform as those 2nd (or 3rd - can't be bothered to google it. pre-2006 at least) generation frontiers before they became overpriced shite.

So pretty damn good. They were probably one of the last dying breaths of Nissan before they became fully utility / appliance vehicles with AWD/FWD options. They look weird but in SUV format, they can be pretty good.

Also look into frontiers if you don't need the extra seats.

>>16865964
Those tow capacities are more to zdo with what the manufacturer at the time puts forward to be complied which have a number of things taken into consideration. Your car will probably comfortably tow sustainably more that it's been factory rated to.
If you want to increase that tow capacity, chances are you'd have to talk to and appease an automotive engineer and have him/her sign off on a mod plate (or however it works in your region).
Worth noting in other regions where the early J80 was rated for 2.5 tonne, the later ones were rated for 3.5 tonne.
>>16866015
Awesome car, I'm sure you won't be disappointed. While you guys may not have got the Toyota badged Prado, the rest of the world missed out on any variation of V8 Prado, so I am well and truly jelly.

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>Lexus LXxxx
>more like:
Tay Yoda Land Battleswift

picc highly related

>>16866524
So my prospective 97 Lexus Land Battleship will be able to tow 7700 lbs? I haven't looked too much into it so far as that will come with the owner's manual.
But generally from military experience, I have found that the vehicle is built (except for brakes and maybe transmission) to tow a lot more as you mentioned. On civies, it probably won't be able to tow like 10x more like some military medium support vehicles but definitely half a tonne over probably won't kill it.

>be HLVW
>tow capacity of 15tonnes
>has had stories of it pulling two HLVW and a MLVW going 20km/h
>around 50 tonnes
>exceeds tow rating by 3.5x to prevent vehicles going into hands of taliboons
I wonder what my Ranger can do...

>>16866513
>the even have adapters to bolt the LS to the stock transmission
That I actually don't know. I was speaking more from looking at I-6s and potential V8s into my old Colorado (not suer if LS was an option) vs putting them into other trucks and saw it was quite difficult.

>>16866524
Also worth noting, a lot of OEM towing capacities (especially with the plethora of 3.5t vehicles out there today) eat into the overall GCM and limit your legal ability to reach the GVM if you weren't otherwise towing.
>>16866124 touches on it quite well.

Remember to take Gross Vehicle and Gross Combination into account, along with axle loadings. You'd probably find with such 2.5+ tonne trailers, you'd only be allowed around 200kg tongue weight, so trailer ballance is important too.

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>>16866561
taytay currently uses the current generation UR engine
UZ swap confirmed

>>16866561
>So my prospective 97 Lexus Land Battleship will be able to tow 7700 lbs?
If it's species similarly to global versions of the J80, sure, it'd be physically able to.
From a legality and insurance perspective though, ONLY if it's been registered to do so in your region...
And you're right, vehicles are usually engineered over their legal threshold.

>>16866561
>So my prospective 97 Lexus Land Battleship will be able to tow 7700 lbs
Legally it will tow 5000 lbs.

>>16866625
Yeah I remember it was 5000lbs on the site which is why I asked >>16866585 to confirm the 7700lbs. That "legal" limit now makes sense why all the forums I saw a few days ago said 5k. Good to know I can probably tow some sort of trailer legally as long as I give some mech. eng. $100.
Can't wait for the 10 city MPG to turn into 4MPG.

Un-irregardless, 5k's enough to tow Taynger (3700 curb weight + 700lb dolly). And Taynger should be able to tow Land Battleswift (4900lb curb weight + 700lb dolly) both within the legal limits.

>>16866666
>taynger
>land battleswift
>un-irregardless
weirdest quints ever

checked, though

>>16866585
>If it's species
If it's specced* fuck you phone, save that to your autocomplete.

>>16847248
I currently have an 07 F150 Crew Cab 4x4 with a 1.5" level kit and some Duratracs. I wanted to add an Automatic Locker/LSD to the rear. What are my best options for a daily? I've tried a Detroit locker on a Jeep and didn't like it.

I was looking for something like GM G80 Automatic Rear Locker like they have on the GM pickups/SUVs, but something I can put in my Ford.

>>16866681
thanks bae

>>16866711
does 1.5 inch leveling do the f-150 justice? Did you just disk the coils? Duratrac size? why do you need lockers on the f-150 crew cab right now? I feel the money could be spent a bit better on an extra 2-3 inches and larger tyres before lockers come into play but it really depends on the uses of your vehicle in both daily applications and ((((((funn)))))))

>>16866726
I don't recall the tire size. Its a work truck and I mostly drive in Mud off road. I've gotten stuck multiple times and 4wd would help. My co-worker has an 05 Power Wagon and always pulls me out. He just uses his rear locker +4wd and is able to pull through no problem.

>>16866755
But you have a 4x4 which means you have a 4wd-l. lockers will definitely help a bit more than tyre size, then, yeah.

but honestly, if the way detroit lockers didn't make you feel well, then anything less will be the same on the f-series. What did you not like about the detroit lockers? The weird turning and curbing? What about air lockers?

>>16866711
Limited options for the 9.75"
Just put a Detroit in the rear. They work better with longer wheelbases which is likely why you didn't like it in the Jeep.

>>16866796
Don't think I can afford Air/Selectable lockers.

Is there any lockers that normally stay open and then lock up at RPM like the G80?

I might sell it and buy a GMC with a G80 then. I have no brand loyalty.

>>16866843
Honestly the GMC is the better truck by a wide margin but the G80 rear end is a bit of a weak point, especially in a 1500. It'll get you out of a pinch but the way it operates is not conducive to regular reliable use. If nothing else the GM rear axle has a wider variety of aftermarket lockers available. If you get a 3/4 ton there's front lockers available as well.

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>mfw the flood of cheap Chinese LED light bars drives the price of reputable brand name second hand spotlights down
Feels good buying a pair of good condition Cibie Super Oscars for $75

>>16868178
desu those "fancy" "us made" led bars are probably 80 percent consist of parts made in china.

>>16868344
I don't doubt it at all. Regardless, it makes quality lighting for jews like me incredibly accessible. The amount of Lightforce 240 Blitz and even XGTs on the market for ~$100 is fantastic.

>>16866711
what >>16866823 said is right. a detroit will behave completely differently in an f150 than a jeep.

>>16868178
Hella Luminators have dropped in price as well. Fantastic lights available in a variety of beam patterns and now people are getting rid of them in favor of shitty LED bars.

>>16847621
>ifs vs solid axle.wmv

>>16871905
Not only that, but a four link solid axle.

>>16866015
got a 2009 with 56k on it one owner dealer maintenance
its a beast in the snow
i was plowing through 3 feet with snow tires
down hill assist is way underrated
the shifter is designed for off road and i bet the camera is too
it has no overlay and you can see the bumper making it perfect for not backing into a rock or tree

>>16868344
>>16866857

you guys talking about rigid/baja

Bomp

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>>16868178
Yep I have 7 of them

Here's hoping Cali Raised LED drops their prices a bit so I can get some decent lights one day

>>16875547
What benefit do I get for having 6 fog lights over 2 fog lights? Where do people have 6 on their light bars and 4 on their bumper? Is it just to angle them differently?

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>>16876952

Having six fog lights does not benefit you over two fog lights. Fog lights are generally short range and for road use.

However having two driving lights and two spot lights on your light bar in addition to two fog lights on your bumper can be extremely beneficial.

You have the fog lights for fog, snow, heavy rain, etc. while you have the roof lights for offroad use as well as the ability to supplement the high beams with them.

>>16877016
Why do you have four foglights, then?

>>16877083

I have two fog lights on my bumper and two spot lights to supplement my high beams.

For off road use I have three driving and two cornering lights on my roof basket.

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>>16866504
I have a second gen. Performance is good off-road. Off Road model is obviously the best with locker stock. RF sound system is pretty nice too. Can coax decent mileage out of them (20 consistently on hwy). Good amount of room inside too.

Downsides/things to watch for:
-SMOD with early automatics. I avoided it by getting a 6spd. Timing chain guides can wear out.
-Rear leaf springs are underfed for a 1/4 ton SUV. If you're towing or the springs are older they sag like a mother.
-Lots of tiny electrical gremlins like the airbag light likes to come on for no reason. Evap tank likes to get clogged. Amp on stereo likes to not boot up for no reason at all. Wheels use a stupid bolt pattern.

They cost 66% of what similar specced 4Runner runs. They're everywhere so it shouldn't be hard to find one that's taken care of.

>>16877108
yeah that makes a lot of sense
what about those brojeeps that run their 6 "fog lights" on the highway at night when there's no fog or anything? are those just to look douch?

>>16877288

No fog, rain, or snow? Around other traffic? Definitely to look douche. Fog lights are useless in clear conditions and no other pattern should be used to supplement low beams.

>>16868178
>go to local "truck accessories" store
>looking for snatch block and 20 000~ lb treesaver
>"oh sorry, anon. we don't have a market for offroad supplies and we can't even get them now"
Welp. Otay. Guess I gotta go drive to that offroad store 40km away.

>check out lights whilst waiting
>cheapest LED spot lights are non-branded $200s
>LED PIAAs cost more than $300
>LED bars all cost over $150
At least they were understaffed that day so they couldn't pester me to buy more accessories.

>>16877288
Bretty douschey. Also illegal in a lot of places, too.

>>16877261
>performance is good off-road
Which is evident from your pristine paint, zero dings, not a scratch on it, mall hauler that you just put cheap ATs on.

>>16877884
ill fight you bitch nigger

>>16877934
Doubt you're him. If you are, I mean no disrespect to a clean vehicle, but I can't take the word of the owner about offroad performance.

>>16850149
What size tire and gears?
I'm rolling 3.55s and can't bring myself to pay for gears just yet.

>>16877422
That's alright, as long as there's people out there "upgrading" to light bars from their old brand name spot lights, I'm a happy man. I'd prefer to be running a pair of Hella Rallye 4000 (just for example) halogens than a generic 32" LED light bar anyway. Not only I like the aesthetics and character of a spotlight housing (subjective, the minimalist appearance of a light bar has advantages), I prefer the light produced by a halogen, maybe an HID as long as it's not any higher than 4300k.
Worth noting such Hella 4000s still retail for over $250 Ausfag bucks each (that's per one light!), but I've found a couple of pairs in otherwise good condition for $150.
Best driving lights I've ever used were 240 Lightforces.

>>16878078
He never answers. But I'm running an auto 3.55 XJ on 32s. It's less punchy, but no complaints.

>>16878153
See that's the thing I'm looking towards 33s and plan to regear when its time to move on to 35s.
I cant feel any difference with 31s vs stock.

I appreciate the answer friend.

Are there kits for lowering an XJ? I want to turn one into a Wagon or Ute.

>>16878177
If it helps, my 32s measured 32.75" when new. So I don't you'll see issues.

>>16878178
That's like asking "can I use Google". No there isn't a kit, but you can do it.

>>16878211
I just figured as much as XJs are used as a modding platform there might be.

New thread
>>16878245
>>16878245
>>16878245
>>16878245

>>16878216
Nah, there's nothing set up, but it's been done and you can do it too. But nothing ready made.

>>16878252
dude why. there are 4 posts until limit

>>16878178
no. get out

>>16878152

I'm 297 freedom bucks into six Hella 4000s and $65ish into a 54" curved LED bar. Best of both worlds.

Swapping the Hellas 5500k HIDs but the color temp will drop significantly with the 75w ballasts I'm planning on running.

>>16878404
>but the color temp will drop significantly with the 75w ballasts I'm planning on running
...interesting, running lower wattage globes? Does this aid strike times?

>>16878487

The globes/bulbs in nearly all of the 50w+ kits are just standard bulbs designed for a 35w ballast. The advertised color temp is at 35w since that's what the bulbs are intended to be run at. Higher wattage ballasts drop the color temp and increase output.

>>16878562
dropping colour temperature will allow for lesser pierce of water molecules. you want something that can touch on the IR region. but as we're discussing on the new /ORG/, there is limited use depending on where you live for moisture piercing light, most of the time.

unless you're somewhere in the north east and you have the 2am lake fog that if you turnedon high beams, LEDs, or driving lights, the only thing you would see is a huge block of white in front of you

>>16878686

Increasing color temp reduces "penetration", dropping color temp helps.

>>16878724
Are we talking about the same thing when you say "penetration"?
Water molecule have absorbances near the 400nm range which means you need something with a spectrum range of 550-750 (red and yellow light) for fog piercing. This is why LEDs (blue shifted lights) drop off in fog and only spray like 10-25 metres before being useless.

>>16878781

Yes. Lower color temperatures (amber/yellow) help while higher color temperatures (blue) hurt.

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>>16878834
Oh right. Wavelength is indirectly proportional to energy.
Night, burblade. See you on the new /ORG/.