[ D a i l y B i k e T h r e a d ] - /dbt/ Appropriate gear

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First for BEST BEGINNER BIKE

>>16757149
kys it's shit

>>16757149
But what if the beginner wants something reliable Anon?

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Feels good man.

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The GS500 is objectively the best beginner bike.
> mileage
It's a mid-sized 4stroke twin cylinder bike, so it drinks less than 6 liters per 100 km.
> handling
It handles nothing like a supersport, spoiling you for when you get something else. But it can also corner much better than something like a cruiser, and actually uses its entire rear tire unlike a Ninja 250.
> brakes
They are complete shit and their only redeeming feature is that they're disc brakes. This is good because the longer braking distance forces new riders to plan ahead and start braking early. No ABS means they learn to brake properly I'd they don't want to get shrekt.
> power
It sits right at the power limit for A2 bikes which is great for euros. It's torquey enough to be faster off the line than most cars you'll encounter in the city. But it also feels relatively gutless so a) it's forgiving of mistakes and b) you can ride it at the limit without putting yourself into too much danger. It reaches up to 180 km/h which is fast enough for highway riding.
> carbs
It being carbed means that if you run into problems, you can learn to fix them yourself instead of heading to the mechanic every time.
> seating position
Upright, slightly forward means it's a neutral riding position so you can figure out what you want afterwards. The seat is relatively uncomfortable making literally every other bike after it will feel like heaven on your ass.
> price and availability
Parts and the bikes themselves are cheap and plentiful. If you crash and fuck up one of your fairings it's 40 euros to replace it with original parts. Engine needs little maintenance. Beginner riders are typically not financially independent, so this is a big plus for them.
> suspension
It's a budget suspension factoring into the overall low cost of getting a GS 500. If you want better suspension it's easy to swap. Therefore it gives beginners an opportunity to learn working on suspension while keeping the cost manageable.

>tfw no SV1000 on market
I might have to settle for an FZ1

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>>16757153
Mine got ran over by a truck and all that happened was some bent levers, a missing turn signal and one of the rims broke. Plenty reliable.

>>16757157
Just get 2 GS500s

>>16757157
>>16757157
>Not getting a Honda super hawk

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Oh look KKK's here.

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>>16757163
>realtree
>army

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>>16757163
Fuck off with your GS500 spam, Jesus.

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Drop anon you seem very bored

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>>16757169
That's Jesus SIR for you, maggot.
Fucking make me.

>>16757171
lewd as fuck

>>16757171
I am. Ah fuck it, I'll stop now.
You gonna make a SEM hype poster again? Or maybe a flag design that I can get made and bring to the meet?

>>16757167
Tru

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>>16757173
fugg you got me there m80

>>16757165
>only result
>https://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/mcy/5980930036.html

Yeah I'll pass

Is my fz6 a good beginners bike?

>>16757189
That 250 is hammered

You know you want it BB

https://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/mcy/5993545388.html

>>16757196
I mean, it has an R6 engine in it but it's fine as long as you don't get retarded with the throttle.

GAS THE SINGLE SIDED
SWING ARM WAR NOW

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>>16757174
Gotta clean it
Clean it real good

>>16757178
If I know who will come and when I have some time, yes
But I have no idea about the status of SEM, I wasn't online much in the past few weeks. Is everything organized yet?
Who will come? Where will it be (I only know of northern Italy)?

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>>16757149
is this a fake Suzuki?

Daelim makes clones. Fake CBR125s in bodies in bigger CBRs, fake Honda Supercubs.

>>16757198
Fug, if I had the 6 grand I'd probably pull the trigger, but I'm looking for something a bit more in the 3-4 grand range

>>16757219
jew this guy down to 4k
https://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/mcy/5970550141.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaOBzTJB7yc

>>16757205
You don't have to put all the bikes on there, just take a pic of WR's helmet, put it in front of a 4chan flag and add some meme phrase.
Yeah, we have our camp site reserved and all that's left is for everyone to plan their individual trips. We couldn't find a good one in Italy proper so now we'll stay in Austria close to the Swiss and Italian borders. http://www.camping-pfunds.at/
CB 400 has the list of people who want to come, you should ask him about that. I only know he's coming, I am, Shivvy I think, but FKG isn't.

>>16757221
scratch that, get this instead
https://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/mcy/5941239876.html

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where did you ride today lads?
first sunny day here in weeks so made the most of it and rode all morning. roads still wet in places but a good ride nonetheless

>>16757219
Get this nyukka down to like 3.4

https://treasure.craigslist.org/mcy/5986342840.html

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>>16757222
this is actual mr. regufur art btw

>>16757221
>>16757233
>Buying used cheap pastashit
Kys

>>16757239
I rode to work. 20f out but it wasn't that bad. I learned how to do a burnout today as well.

>>16757233
>https://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/mcy/5941239876.html
"Here for sale a FAST Sports bike, an Aprilia Tuono 1000, the Ferrari of Sports Bike. Bike runs perfect and tries are almost new."

Isn't Ducati the Ferrari of bikes?

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>>16757258
nice. I wanna try burnouts but dont wanna shred my tyre and have to buy a new one

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>tfw no money to go to india and buy a freshly made royal enfield
>tfw will never fuck hot curry whores on it
death awaits

Is cycle gear any good or should I just buy gear online?

>>16757255
>ubermensch reliable rotax engines
>minimal bullshit spaghetti electronics to break
>more power and style than the rc51
it's really no contest

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>>16757231
>camping Pfunds
Noice
Pretty central, looks good.
Do we need to do some pre payment?
I'll look after the flag. But I won't manage to do it this week, or next week, and probably also not the week after next week.

>>16757239
road to class, didn't even try to be on time. Seat next to qt I wanted to talk to was taken, and a lardass sat next to me. I'll be on time next week

>>16757264
>anybody selling anything on craigslist
>smart

>>16757265
A E S T H E T I C

But also having hard cruiser tires and a torque v twin helps a lot.

>>16757270
>Italian bike
>Minimal spaghetti
Doubt.png

But still, at that point you might as well just get a used gsxr or something. At that price, I can't imagine it's been treated right.

>>16757264
>always something broken and never runs
I guess

>>16757273
No down payment, they said the spots are reserved for us.
No rush m8, I only thought it'd be funny to stake our claim and fly the flag on group rides. If you don't have time or just can't be arsed, no problem.
God I'm HYPE. Missing SEM2.0 was a big mistake.

>>16757280
>Buy this CBR600RR, it's the MX5 of bikes!
>Buy this Honda CB400, it's the Ford Focus of Bikes!
>Buy this Harley Davidson, it's the Mustang of bikes!

>>16757282
A used gsxr and a vtwin tuono are nothing alike, don't be dumb. It's at least worth checking out tbqh

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What is dumber than riding a motorcycle?

I'll start. Ear stretching was huge among teens and kids when i was in scool

>>16757291
I'm going to say no
>Let's buy this used 12 year old Italian bike that no one has that's dirt cheap
>It's great guys Italy makes reliable, cheap to maintain motorcycles
>What could go wrong?
Kys

But honestly if you just want a liter naked for not much money, Honda hornet, zrx1100, sv, fz1 or other Jap shit.

>>16757300
When I had a gf I stuck my tongue through her flabby ear lobes. Never my peepee though.

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>>16757300
number 2
Being /fa/

this shirt is $300

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Reminder not to listen to kit kat's advice, on anything, ever.

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>>16757310
Tru

>>16757305
There's a reason Aprilia is called the Honda of Italy.

>>16757286
Yeah I'll see what I can do.
SEM 2.0 was goat, too bad that you couldn't come.

>>16757315
But I thought Germany is the Japan of Europe?

>>16757315
Or you could buy an actual Honda

>>16757305
You do realize there's a reliable touring version based of the RSV mille, right? And the dual sport called the pegaso which is also renowned for the reliability.

Go have a look at AF1racing.com and you can see how easy parts are to get and how cheap OEM is.

>kkk talking out of his ass as usual
Of course.

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>>16757282
What kind of bike do you have now?

>>16757321
Yeah, it's a damn shame.
Especially considering I couldn't come because I blew my money on a vacation with the ex, and now I can't even look at the pictures or think back on it without regret. REEEE

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>>16757322

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>>16757327
Shadow 700 but I'll be getting a sport standard next

>>16757325
What I've been able to find out
>Electrics are dodgy and the wiring degrades
>If you let the battery get low, the bike literally cucks itself
Engine seems stout.

Still, I would not recommend a cheap Italian bike to anyone, even if they're sexy as fuck.

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>>16757355
>I'll be getting a sport standard next
Like what exactly?

>>16757355
Nobody should buy any poorly maintained bike.

>>16757366
Most likely fz6, but if I can find a good deal on a Buell xb9r or xb12r I might hop on that

>>16757375
If you buy an FZ6 you should convert it to an FZ6N

>>16757380
Nah trick, the fairing will be better for touring. I'm tired of long days with no wind protection at all

>>16757382
I still think the FZ6 is a bit of an ugly duckling even after owning one. Still looks better than an SV650 but bikini fairings are hard to make look nice from all angles.

>>16757328
Oh
Yes, that sucks even more

>>16757392
I like the sv650 gen 2 bikini fairing.

But yeah it's not the prettiest, but it'll be functional. I'm not too worried about aesthetics on a bike like this.

How long did you have an fz6 for?

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>>16757396
Oh well, next SEM is gonna be cash as long as I don't crash. The campsite is booked from July 29th to August 1st by the way.

>>16757406
2 years

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>>16757412
Nice, thanks, that's a good time. I now can say for sure that I have time to come too,btw, and money should also be no problem, at least if I don't completely fuck up with something unexpected

>>16757447
>>16757412
The flag idea is not stupid, but please don't make one of those bosuzoku thing to ride with.
Something small that we can hang on a tent is good enough.

Also you nazi got anything to sai on moto-detail bags?
I need a 50l one and they cost half than ortlieb/touratech

>>16757434
What was ownership like? And is it good stock or was there anything you need to change on it? Also any known failure points?

>>16757447
Noice, looking forward to it.

>>16757464
Yeah no, I want to be able to ride with it after all, and it shouldn't be expensive either.

>>16757482
>Yeah no, I want to be able to ride with it after all
Yeah, no.

>>16757464
Didn't see the second question at first. I have a big pillion seat bag from them (https://m.louis.de/artikel/moto-detail-gepaecksystem-universal/10026555), you can fit a lot in there and they seem waterproof enough but I basically never use it.
>small opening so can't fit big laptop, or any tent or sleeping bag in there
>possibly difficult to fasten to bike

I usually take a 20 l waterproof boat bag (dunno what they're called in English, basically a cylinder 30 cm across and 80 long made of plasticy stuff with one open side that you roll together to close it) and put that on the luggage rack, and stuff the rest of my stuff in side bags and/or a large backpack.

>>16757487
If it's small enough, and I ride slowly enough...
>me
>going fast

>>16757468
Like all jap bikes, they're reliable but if anything goes wrong it's a real pain in the ass to fix. Need to take off loads of stuff just to access something or unscrew 4 bolts.

It's a fine bike stock. Really quiet exhaust; if you wanted a louder one they're kind of expensive. I put new levers on it and a fender delete because stock fenders are always shit. If you want to tour you should probably get heated grips because the fairings don't cover your 2 outside fingers on either side.

Biggest qualms with it were the slowly updating speedo/hard to see tach and working on it was painful. Only thing I know of that's known for going wrong is that for some reason the clutch wire wears out and gets stiff really easily. Have to get a new one every couple years or so.

Overall it was a great bike, easy to recommend. The best low(ish) cc sport touring bike on the market still since Yamaha discontinued it.

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>>16757502
>I usually take a 20 l waterproof boat bag
Yeah that's what I'm getting, they're waterproof bags/rucksack.
I already have a 35lt form kappa and it's decent, I just need a bigger one so I don't have to bring my side bags, even though the pockets on them are pretty handy.

>>16757512
That's stupid, unless you turn the isle of man flag into a swastika

>>16757525
Thanks man. I appreciate that. I read about the speedo issue, unless you change the computing system I can't imagine there's an easy fix. How was fueling on it? Think a power Commander would be needed?

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Finally got some actual sunshine in Devon, we could carry some proper speed this time.

>>16757540
>Single sided swingarm
>V4
Muh dick

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>>16757541
Cheers bruv

>>16757533
The later models had a different cluster,. It probably updates faster or you could put a custom one on it if it really bothered you. I also found that it seemed to try to estimate what your speed would be at as if it was a full 1.5 seconds behind. For example:

>Going 60km/h, gaining 20km/h every 1.5 second
>Speedo updates to say 80, pretty accurate
>Stop accelerating at 80
>Speedo updates to show you at what you would have been at if you kept accelerating
>Next update, it's back to your accurate speed
Just a weird little quirk, it wasn't enough of a pain to warrant doing anything about swapping the speedo out to something else, but a weird decision by Yamaha.

Is ABS a meme?

>>16757550
dat castrol livery

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>>16757533
Sorry didn't even answer your question. I didn't notice any fueling issues at all, it was really smooth. I wouldn't get a power commander unless I changed something with the engine or exhaust.

Here's a shit willie on it I did just for you.

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>>16757573
Yes it will kill you dead

>>16757559
Cool to know. My buddy had one with an aftermarket exhaust and it was so damn good sounding. I was in love with it.

>>16757550
Np, tfw no rvf750r or NR

>>16757588
Thanks mate, that's the answer I needed. Good to know. Fuck I need to sell this shadow

>>16757602
>tfw no rvf750r or NR

is 400

>>16757573
you don't need it and it kills performance and /feel/
get it if you're a shitcunt commuter, but if you're just starting to ride it'll make you unable to ever ride without

>>16757573
I've had both my front and rear lock up and slide and I've never went down because I'm not retarded and don't keep holding them. Unless you get silly in the corners it's unnecessary IMO.

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>>16757608
I know, you live in bongistan

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>>16757588

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So that gsx-r that was doing laps at motegi with a GSX-RR swingarm on it for some reason was a fucking motoamerica bike? jesus christ, consider yamaha annihilated on sight.

Toni the tiger gonna kill it.

>>16757719
>try to look cool or the other bikers
>look like a shitlord squid instead

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>>16757762
oh no

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>>16757762
>Are you saying I'm not a Squid?
Because I am a Squid m8.

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>>16757772
>220 kph
>on a liter
>impressive

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>>16757809
Tbh hyundais are faster than liters anyway.

>>16757815
Have both a hyundai and a litre, I can confirm this to be false.

>>16757819
>I have a Hyungay
Kys

>>16757827
tell me to kill myself one more time and im going to report you to the fbi

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>>16757819
truuuuuu

>>16757837
>0 kmh
lmao slowfaggg

>>16757836
Maybe the issue isn't me, but from within yourself

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>>16757872
i warned you

>>16757156
Let's be serious. Super sports handle like shit. They are fine tuned instruments that will fuck you if you make a mistake. Most novice riders are faster on cruisers

>>16757876
Go back to worst Korea

>>16757876
Oh yeah?

Well my dad works at nintendo.

>>16757173
>the things you could have done with that money

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>>16757815
2012 Hyundai Genesis 5.0 R-Spec Sedan
(Fastest one I could find)
0-60 mph - 4.7
Quarter mile - 13.1

2002 Suzuki V-Strom 1000
0-60 mph - 3.6
Quarter mile - 11.6

Why aren't sports bikes all 2 strokes?
They are bikes that aim to be light and powerful sacrificing fuel efficiency and practicality. 2 stroke is harder to ride, but aren't those bikes already hard to master? Whats the point in having the more fuel efficient, heavier, less powerful and more practical 4 stroke in a track toy?

>>16758066
I'm asking seriously, this is not a bait
also
>inb4 emissions
I know, but can it be the only reason?

>>16758066
Same reason all car engines aren't rotary

>>16758074
That's the only reason. Emissions laws tightened just as 4 strokes started getting powerful and no manufacturer could be bothered to spend the R&D cash to make strokers more compliant.

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redy 2 fukn ride

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>tfw no garage

>>16758118
>implying anyone's going to steal your shitbike

>>16758127
nobike detected

>>16758155
I'll have you know that I'm the proud owner of a ninja 500

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reminder: real motorcyclists ride slow

>>16758166
>proud owner of dank memes

>>16758127
People will steal anything, I've learned this the hard way.

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>>16758174
Me and my father do this up to traffic lights a lot. Good practice honestly.

>>16758184
I though I was the only one, I try to keep it up while stopped as long as possible by jiggling the front like a madman.

>gonna ride my baiku for the first time in a year this weekend
Feels good man.

>buy something on ebay
>immediatly find on amazon for 10€ less and free shipping

IT WASN'T THERE BEFORE
GODDAMNIT

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>>16758269
>lose gloves
>apprehensive to buy another set because I might find the old ones
>wait two weeks and buy another set
>old gloves reappear a week later

>>16758249
drive safe anon

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>>16758095
Really? No other reason to use 4 strokes on sports bikes?
So saying 2 stroke is superior isnt a meme?

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https://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/mcy/5954648742.html
Is it worth it goys?

>>16758318
looks ok, I don't know how jewish you are but you might be able to haggle

>>16757198
>13k miles, babied by 40 year old
>slip on exhaust and dyno info

I'm calling the bullest of shit.

>>16758307
4 stroke is superior in terms of what maintenance it needs.

2 strokes make way more power and are inherently better for performance uses.

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Gonna have my license test tomorrow, guys, wish me luck. I've racked up 2.400km since november, hope it'll be enough, I'm sick not to be able to use the highway.

>>16758530
>>>>>>
I almost went to sem without a license
Nobody cares if you use the highway

>>16758535
Maybe but, even if I don't respect a law just because it's a law, I try not be a nigger.

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>>16758307
Why do you think all performance bikes were 2 smoke before the regulations changed?

The 2 stroke is the superior concept because it combusts on every rotation while the 4 stroke only does on every second one.

Its just hard to pull of properly and has some faults that are hard to fix.

Same with rotary engines.

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have any of you gotten a bike thru eBay?
seems like it would be a very bad idea. I'm wondering if any of you have tried it.

>>16758307
Is that suzuki cafe racer 4 cylinders?

>>16758579
>4 exhausts

well what do you think?

Its an engine swap though.

>>16758530
FG ST?
How do you find it?

>>16758584
>>16758584
Ok, im new to bikes and really like that old /fa/aesthetic and currently looking a cl350 to make a custon scrambler cafe hybrid.

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>>16758066
>2 stroke is harder to ride, but aren't those bikes already hard to master?
You make this sound like such an unimportant thing. Most of the advancement in sport bikes in the last 15 years has been making them actually rideable for plebs, a 500cc death machine is basically useless to anyone but a MotoGP rider. Even in GP racing they'd knock off a ton of the performance of the engine just to make them actually usable for anyone short of Doohan. Honda even had a two cylinder privateer bike with 50 less horsepower that managed to be competitive because it was so much easier to ride.

>>16758598
FG-17. I like it but I still haven't experienced long highway rides, so I don't know how strong is the wind sound, or the ventilation, because, you know, it was winter.

>>16758600
>scrambler cafe hybrid.

now thats just stupid

My bike says it needs 10w40
But i have rotella t6 which is 5w40
Is it fine to use in my bike?

>>16758626
Yes

>>16758626
no

>>16758641
>>16758634
Thats a bit conflicting

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>>16758623
Jelly much? Probably because you will never have an /fa/ bike and get all the qts wet with the bad ass cafe looks because your just a fat lonely neckbeard

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>>16757156
GS500, the AK47 of Bikes

>>16758626
yes, most likely. the number before the W is how viscous the oil acts when cold. Once your engine/oil warms up it will be the same viscosity.

There are people that will tell you to only use motorcycle-specific oils, but others will tell you it's the same shit but with a big mark up in price. I know Rotella at least meets JASO_MA standards so it shouldn't be an issue

>>16758626
i wouldnt, your clutch might start slipping and shit.

>>16758654
Thats why drop anons bike got totaled when he droped it.

>>16758654
GS500 is the hi-point of bikes

It's cheap and only stupid niggers and poorfags like it.

>>16758651
nah, i mean aside from the hipster association a scrambler/cafe "hybrid" just makes no sense.

Might as well try to build an adventure bike/chopper hybrid.

>>16758656
This sounds well put together
>>16758659
This does not
Ill be changing my oil now.

>>16758656
W stands for winter so this means the oil is less thick in colder temperatures and the engine starts easyer.

>>16758672
>Tips fedora
Stay jelly. Bet you dont even have a bike.

>>16758685
no shit
>the number before the W is how viscous the oil acts when cold

>>16758659
no. Rotella has the cert saying OK for wet clutches

>>16758695
does your clutch say 5w40 is fine though?

>>16758706
ya

>>16758679
I just Remembered.
The rotella has been in my garage for a year. But its unopened, its still good right?
I dont remember seeing a shelf life or anything.

>>16758728
ya is good

>>16758733
Cool thanks.

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>>16758695
Rotela dosent even use the real jaso ma marks

Anybody here in northern Idaho?

Winter riders/dirtbikers: how do you wash your bikes in the cold, if at all?
I've got a shitbike with dried mud underneath and sand around the swingarm (only a child's arm could reach). I've got a power washer but in the winter all the spigots are shut off.

I don't know if it's just my Honda, but I'm not a fan of hydraulic clutches. Is there any benefit to the hydraulic unit over just a cable? The cx500 had much better clutch feel.

What bike or type of bike would a skater ride? Serious answers only plz

>>16757156

If you dont brake like a retard you wont even know you have ABS - till you fuck up. You can learn to brake properly with or without.
You are just less likely to eat shit when you inevitably fuck up and lock up a wheel with no experience to save your ass from your own idiocy..

>>16758876
Smoother, no adjustments, more feel due to no cable friction, and less maintenance. It's just a direct link to the clutch plates; unless yours is messed up there's so reason it should have less feel than a cable.

Only real con is that it's harder to trail fix if you break a hose.

>>16758651
Anytime I see a bike like that I instantly assume they were either too poor or too stupid to get a proper modern sport or standard bike

>>16758884
Supermoto. If you find an empty skate park you can ride up the ramps. The stuff.

But if you're a hipster who skates for fashion, probably an old Jap cruiser or cafe bike.

>>16758934
I might need to bleed it again, or the clutch on the shadow might just feel like shit. I'm just not liking it as much.

>>16758884
R6

>>16758884
motoped

>>16758966
Rip. Does he even exist anymore

>>16758969
Yeah. He's in the discord.

>>16758884
Harleys in my experience.

>>16758956
It's a honda so it's probably just some cheap shit they threw on there for the memes

>>16758946
>too poor
Yeah fuck them right? They don't deserve to have fun.
Poor guys buying old shitty bikes or building them from junkyard parts has been a part of motorcycle culture since the fuckin beginning. That's where you get all those classic bikes that are mashed up ""custom"" bikes. They were junk bikes.
I have more respect for a guy who built his ride or wrenches an old POS than the guy who walks into a dealership and throws a wad of money down on some brand new sport bike and brand new gear. Even worse if you're financing it because you couldn't really afford it in the first place.

>>16759002
>They don't deserve to have fun.
agreed

>>16757306
You are a hero

>>16758884
supermoto
>t. previous skater. gradually stopped skating as I got into bikes
>tfw fell for the supermoto meme
>tfw sold the supermoto wheels for a good price so I didn't really lose anything
>tfw no ride a supersport

>>16758174
>not even in a straight line
You're all over the place :)

>>16758884
wouldnt they ride a skate board....?

>>16759085
steering is how you balance a bike unless you have ultra-god balance and can stay upright at a standstill

>>16759002
>Buying a piece of junk
Its like marrying a fat girl that used to be really hot but now she has 6 black kids and is an alcoholic.

>>16759090
Yea, perfectly straight is almost impossible, but in your wemb it's all over the place. When you focus in the distance on a fixed point it's easier to keep straight. Kinda hard in the dark..

>>16757809
It's impressive it didn't get speed wobbles as stroms are known for it at speeds over 160km/h

>>16758651
>/fa/ bike to get girls
Who the fuck needs a bike to get laid. I have a shitty 100k mileage GS500 and I get laid regulary. Fashion is for homos. Most women want to be fucked by a proper man, not a /fa/ boi.

I bet you shave your pubes.

>>16758976
Whats wrong with this chat room?
Why split the userbase up?
>dicksword

>>16759145
Actually just my ass hairs. My bf doesn't like his dick getting tied up.

>>16759145
>Gs500
>Gets laid

Ayy lmao!!!! Since when pigs can fly?

>>16759151
idk mane.I just use it to supplement shitposting when dbt dies down.

>>16759145
Sure, i bet youre fat and buy shitty poorfag walmart clothes. Stay mad while /fa/bois steal all your women.

>>16759145
Your sister dosent count anon

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So /dbt/ I am getting pic related for my first bike. Should I get ABS or not? I plan on riding about 70% on pavement and 30% on dirt roads because countryfag here.

>>16759165
Pls no bully for GS500.

I also have a 15k milage ER-5 but need to get it insured first.

I think I'll buy a CBF600n next.

>>16759172
Nah, I'm a project manager for a steel constructor. I make good money. We don't have Walmart in Europe. BMI of 23, fairly muscular, I run around 10km every week. I don't care about /fa/ bois, never had any of them "stealing my women".

>>16759177
My sister is fucking hot, but I've never fucked her :(

>>16759222
Why don't you buy bikes that are actually fun to ride?

>>16759236
By law I'm still restricted in power untill next year.
GS500/ER-5 is the maximum I can ride now.

What's wrong with CBF600n? Any better suggestions?

I'm looking for my first 4 cylinder. Preferably one that won't kill me right away, that's why I'm looking for a CBF600n.

>>16759222
Post pics of sister.

>>16759002
>Yeah fuck them right? They don't deserve to have fun.
This.

>>16759222
>My sister is fucking hot
Post sister or fuck off.

>>16759257
A: It's honda
B: It's as slow as a ptwin of the same size with none of the torque

>>16759257
Fuck off yurocuck

>>16759260
>>16759262
Actually both my sisters are hot. I don't have pics of them. Could look on facebook but then I'm not anon anymore.

>>16759221
If you can dissable the ABS theres literally no reason not to have it.
Even if not, shouldnt be too bad in country roads.

Also, Kawasaki a best.

>>16759271
Take facebook pictures
remove exif
Draw a line or something to avoid reverse image search
post sisters

Do it for great justice

>>16759270
Retard

>>16759269
What about bandit gsf600?

>>16759286
>Cuckold: the post

Wow the Honda CBF600 makes the same power as my Ptwin FZ-07 but at 1,000 rpm higher, and it has two more cylinders. What the fuck?

>>16759295
I'll just ignore you now boi

>>16759300
4 cylinders vs 2 cylinders? WTF I love Honda now

>>16757315
>There's a reason Aprilia is called the Honda of Italy.
>of Italy
>Italy

Be a mechanic or pay one. Option one is fun though. I enjoy wrenching as much as riding.

>>16759271
Just post, please.

>>16759312
It just seems odd to me that 4 cylinders with similar displacement makes the same power as a 2 cylinder bike. Seems like wasted potential.

>>16757836
Kill yourself.

>>16759311
Stay mad yurocuck

>>16759336
edgy

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>>16759300
honda is LITERALLY shit

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>>16759333
So buy a Hornet or CBR600 where that engine is tuned for more top end.

>>16759351
Can comfirm honda is fucking shit only stupid cuckold an yuro cucks think its good but its literaly made with garbage materias and shitty engineering

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>>16759300
Top end power vs mid range power.
the cb600f will keep pulling over 200km/h where your fz07 stops making power after 6000rpm so when it reaches about 180km/h it just dies in the arse.

Why does no one here understand these things?

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>>16759372
But what if I don't want to rev crazy high to get power? I like mid-range power, not having everything above 10K rpm. That's the main reason I've never got into dedicated sports bikes, the power delivery just feels totally weird to me. I test rode an older R6 and it was pretty gutless until you got really high revs, then it took off like a rocket.

I guess I was raised on pony cars with tons of torque and dirtbikes so I'm used to having low-end power.

>>16758873
I wouldn't use a power washer on your bike.

A bucket of warm soapy water, some rags, and a hose/clean water would be fine.

>>16759398
>cb600f
no, it's about cbf600, it has max speed of approx 200

>>16759333
Torque

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What the fuck is up with Progressive motorcycle insurance?

They are asking for over 2x the money that Allstate and Geico are asking for with the exact same options plan.

>>16759425
Same here. They quoted me more than double what I'm currently paying for insurance coverage with Dairyland Cycle Insurance and I even have more options covered through them.

>>16759402

More torque?
Turbo all the things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJd5yg__Qko

>>16759425
They where the cheapest quote I got.

Also get a broker, they only nature a percentage off the policy, you don't pay them fees or anything

>>16759222
>>16759271
Post sisters

>>16759422
What about it?

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>>16759410
140mph is about 225kmh, fz07 tops out at 120mph, about 193kmh.
and both the old and new cb600's do 140mph.

>just bought a 250€ phone
>I still need a new helmet

I guess I'll play with it a little bit and then send it back :(

>>16759448
It's higher in the rev range and more available over the course of the range. So when you are at the top of the operating range, that torque allows you to maintain the acceleration.

>>16759459
Buy a nexus 6 on eBay, it's 150 USD and the best phone I've ever had

>>16759425
>tfw have USAA and so full coverage is like 35 bucks a month

just join the army if you want sweet insurance and credit card deals you pussies

>>16759449
>fz07 tops out at 120mph
What? No. Maybe it's my exhaust and fuel mapping doing it, but I've exceeded 120 before on a flat stretch.

>>16759487
Joining the military to pay $12 less a month on motorcycle insurance.

What a time to be alive.

>>16759402
then get something of a liter or higher. They have power everywhre

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>>16759402
The CBF600's power curve is flatter than an FZ-07.

Redline doesn't really matter at all, it's geared shorter.

>>16759487

Jokes on you my dad was army and I get it anyways and I'm a neet shitbag.

>>16759511
It was pretty great. I rode around in MRAPS and humvees, and then I got to shoot some people with a machine gun

>>16759462
It still has less torque at its peak rpm than an sv

>>16759518
That's Honda's signature smoothness right there.

>>16759534
Sv1000 or 650?

I meant more along the curve. Having a stable long lasting peak torque is cool. Even if it ramps up to a stable level.

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>>16759506
Yes those are stock specifications.

>>16759542
650 specifically, but definitely both. It's just a weak engine in general.

>>16759549
It certainly isn't a powerhouse. That being said, if you really wanted peak power you'd be looking at a super sport. The nice part of this motor is it's got done oomph, but it'll run forever as it's relatively understressed. Not saying the FZ or Sv aren't, it's just different

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>Allstate
>$642.77/year

>Progressive
>$1,267.76/year

It's literally the exact same coverages and deductibles

>>16759564
B R O K E R
R
O
K
E
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>>16759506
Indicated 120 maybe.
Subtract 5-10% for speedo inaccuracy.

I don't know anything about motorcycles and I've got a question.

I'm a car guy, but I'm turned off by newer vehicles because of how much electronics they use. Drive/Brake/Steer by wire, touch screens, driver assists, shit like that. Have motorcycles remained unmolested by all that stuff? I haven't got a problem with ABS, but I find unnecessary stuff that increases the price of a part stupid, like pushbutton starts and $200+ key fobs.

>>16759600
bikes have a good amount of electrics in them, but not as much as cars. Mostly it's EFI, riding modes, stuff like that. Shit some modern bikes still get made with carbs

>>16759600
Bikes have always had a button to start, but as for a nanny-free bike it can still be bought. Hell up until recently bikes didn't even have dbw

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>>16759612
>what is kickstart

I know what you meant but I just wanted to be one of the first to jump on the "FUCK YOU KIT KAT YOU'RE FUCKING WRONG AGAIN" bandwagon

>>16759620
I've had a kickstart bike, but you get my point.

>>16759612
>>16759620
kit kat is LITERALLY retarded

>>16759564
Lel
>allstate: over $3k per year (can't remember exactly) for minimum liability on just the CBR
>progressive: $350 per year for both the CBR and KLX plus a little extra coverage

>>16759600
yeah the DR-Z400 is pure mechanical bliss.

>>16759600
>Have motorcycles remained unmolested by all that stuff?
No, but it's still early at least, so you can just barely still buy bikes without a bunch of shit. ABS is now mandatory in Europe and Japan though, and within the next generation it will start getting hard to find bikes with say, mechanical throttles.

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a e s t h e t i c

>>16759642
Well for a retard I think I'm going pretty good for myself

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>>16759669

>>16759669
Faggot shit

>>16759691
>going pretty good for myself
fucking retard nice grammar

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>>16759692

>>16759696
Says the backwards closet homo.

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>>16759703
>Can't even post a disgusted reaction pic
Kys. You need to step up your shitposting game, newfag.

>>16759703
Come to that, eh? Idiot.

>>16757153

You're fucking kidding aren't you?

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>>16759600
Key fob and power buttons are awesome though anon

>>16758568
dont most people evade the final value fees? or has ebay just cut out their 10% fee completely because it's bound to happen?

>>16759722
dumb nigger loving faggot

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>Honda classifies the Grom as a sport
>Even though it's a 125cc Insurance companies are ripping me off

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>>16759712

>>16759780
>all insurance compines are the same
They aren't. Get a quote from several agencies. I've had some quote me more than 20x what I'm paying now.

Any other options for stick men besides Dainese and RS Taichi?

I just bought a 2005 crf450x with a freshly rebuilt top end... Did I get a good bike?

>>16759843
>stick
dunlops for sure

>>16759847
>do you enjoy riding it?
>is it trouble-free?
If yes, then yes.
>unicam
never mind it's shit

>>16759847
you bought the best 450 of 2005

>freshly rebuilt top end

this is a lie though

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>>16759865
>best 450 of 2005
U wot?
>top end
agreed. Literally every dirt bike on craigslist has "fresh top end" meaning it only has 479 hours on it

>>16759788
source?

>>16759788
I'd but that for a dollar

>also czeched

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HELD OR RS TAICHI

pls help

>>16759663
>mechanical throttles
what's the purpose of electronic throttles? Why hasn't it been applied to brakes?

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>>16759891
oh my bad, I thought he said CRF450R

>>16759865
>>16759891
Hopefully you're wrong about the top end... How would I check to see? And if it's not fresh can't I just ride it until it need done? Because it runs fucking great with tons of power.

>>16759908
Rs taichi m8. Bougth a pair of gloves and there pretty good.

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>>16759899
Hisashi Eguchi, he's a mangaka and a designer.

>>16759923
What makes the R better than the X?

>>16759919
>what's the purpose of electronic throttles?
To let computers cuck your throttle input
>Why hasn't it been applied to brakes?
It has in a way. Brakes still have a direct fluid connection between the lever and caliper, but computers can still intervene with their ABS systems.

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>>16759941
>it's a /dbt/ believes themselves to above TCS even though the average rider on /dbt/ rides like this and hasn't ridden anything with more than 40 hp episode

>>16759923
qt

>>16759924
>How would I check to see?
Tear it all apart and measure every component.
>And if it's not fresh can't I just ride it until it need done?
Yeah pretty much but that still leaves a chance of something suddenly breaking or catastrophically breaking and leaving you stranded, like when my high hour bike broke a ring. I think the vast majority people just ride until it breaks before fixing it though.

>>16759931
They're just designed for different purposes. The R was a MX bike which didn't have lights, was a bit more powerful, and had closer gear ratios. The X was an enduro bike. The R was probably pretty competitive in MX but KTM has pretty much always had the best enduros of their time.

>>16759963
TCS doesn't bother me but throttle response on modern ecoboxes is awful.

>>16759963
>open throttle 100%
>jk lol computer only lets me open throttle 40% until I'm nearing redline
no thanks

>>16759973
>ecoboxes

wut

>>16759963
My work car has ABS and traction control and I really fucking hate it. Especially ABS.

Glad I have a modernish bike without that trash.

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>>16759973
>>16759986
>/dbt/ sucks at riding and hasn't ridden anything with more than 40 hp
>yeah but on my WORK CAR

>>16760006
>never ridden anything with more than 40hp
>implying
I don't fucking care if it makes the motogp guys faster. I don't like the way electronic throttle bodies respond. That doesn't mean I think I'm a better rider than the professionals that use electronic aids.

>>16760006
Yeah and I don't want a 40hp economy shitbike to have non-existent tip in like the equivalently shitty car, okay.

What happens with Ferraris and $20,000 superbikes is not really relevant.

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>>16760051
N
>>16760051
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>>16760051
U
>>16760051
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>>16760051

>>16758584
No it's not, it's a heavily modified rgv 500, but the engine is from that same bike