/classic car general/ - /ccg/

OLD THREAD >>16692310

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>>16722579
first

Metering blocks>jets

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just stopping by to say hi

haven't had a lot of time lately to work on the blue goose

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>>16722611
one more

>>16722611
>>16722625
cool car! i like the aged patina that has come with it. what are your plans? full restoration? modify the engine tranny for power?

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>>16722634
just make it so it doesn't catch fire again i guess

>>16722656
Holy shit wat
story?

i've got a first gen S10 2wd 5-speed with the 2.8

I kind of want to take it apart, and put it back together (there's a lot wrong with it) is there anything I should do that'd be more worth while with minimal tools?

I don't really want to do an engine swap, but could I get some umph out of the 2.8 if I had to take it apart all the way to the heads?

how much work an I do to an engine while it's still in the truck?

>>16722656
I know that feel. I had an engine fire a month or so ago

>>16722656
fucking lmao guy, what the fuck happened here?

>>16722676
dumb question, but where do you guys buy fire extinguishers from?

>>16722684
You can get them pretty much anywhere. Thankfully I was parked in front of a snow bank so I just started throwing snow at the engine.

I have an ancient one I got from the hardware store that I need to replace

>>16722686
thanks m8, now let me ask you this - how the fuck did your truck start on fire?

>>16722699
>how the fuck did your truck start on fire?
Because he voted for Shillary.

>>16722579
I'm looking at buying an MG B... anyone got any tips?

>>16722709
Yes, familiarize yourself with troubleshooting electrical problems.

>>16722709
>>16722720
>electrical problems
THIS

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>funky

IS IT FUNKY ENOUGH?

>>16722699
Slightly loose gas line that went to the carb. The gas that leaked out of the line fell directly into the exhaust manifold. When the engine has been running for a period of time and there's a lot of under hood temps. When I cranked the motor with the hood closed smoke started pouring out.

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>>16722656
This is always a plus.

It's pretty funny, just how many people had fires in their cars, minor or major, on this board alone.

>>16722758
nothing better than a melted harness

>>16722706
kek

>>16722737
bill blass edition?!

>>16722753
spark + gasoline = uh oh :/

>>16722829
It's not fun I tell you what

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>>16722829
That's a "Collector's Series." Pic related is a Bill Blass.

>>16722952
Are you ever going to get your initials made for one of your Lincolns?

>>16722952
oh okay thanks drac. By the way, see the rust on the front left quarter panel and underneath the vinyl top? I'm curious to know what's the proper of fixing it?

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>>16723017
Cut all the cancer out and start fresh.

>>16723038
oh snap that's intensive. you can't like sand it down and layer protectant and re-finish it?

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>>16723045
That'd be aloooot of bondo....

>a single ratchet from SnapOn is $44
Craftsman is good enough for me.

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>>16723071
I agree.

>>16723071
>craftsman
What are you some kind of blue blood? Harbor fright sockets and wrenches are the TRUE every man's tools.

>>16723094
Harbor freight ratchets are shit

>>16723094
>What are you some kind of blue blood?
My Dad and my Grandpa both worked at Chrysler so i guess for this board i technically am.
I buy murican
That said, buy HF flux core welder yes/no

>>16723111
No. The quality of the weld between HF and an actual name brand flux core wire is astounding. Lincoln electric isn't much more and I've had very good results with that shit vs HF.

>>16723096
Yeah, they really are. I like how they weasel around the term PLASTIC by using COMPOSITE, BRUH. Their sockets are good though, their wrenches are pretty shit. They come precorroded right out of the package and I've already snapped the box end off and bent the open end to shit on one of them.

>>16723139
>No. The quality of the weld between HF and an actual name brand flux core wire is astounding.
Well it's technically not Harbor Freight brand but Chicago Electric.
I don't know if they're one in the same but I'm also on a limited budget.
Besides flux core naturally produces nasty looking welds anyway

>>16723152
Consider looking for a better, used welder on Craigslist. I used one of the harbor freight ones to build a go kart in highschool and it was pure shit compared to the Miller MIG we had in autoshop

>>16723152
Yeah, chicago electric is the in house brand of HF, but i thought you were talking about their wire and not their welders. Their welders are alright if you use a good wire with them. On my old HF welder you have to use a C-clamp on the wire feeder or it doesn't grab the wire. I'm sure it's not like that on all of them, more of a quality control issue than anything else, i think. They're good starter welders but i wouldn't want to be doing a job with one.

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Thanks for liking my pic enough to use it as OP

Will be unboxing my $800 EFI system tomorrow for you all.

>>16723171
>Will be unboxing my $800 EFI system tomorrow for you all.
Keep me updated, i'm interested in maybe efi'ing my shitbox.

>>16723071
I just buy Mastercraft when they are on sale at Canadian Tire. Lifetime warranty on tools and cheap when on sale

>>16723171
Sweet shit dude. Will you be able to install it all yourself, or will you need to bring it to a shop?

>>16723171
Let us know how that works, I am very interested.

>>16723180
I think I might have to throw it into the shop to put the oxygen sensor before the catalytic converter, if that's what you have to do, but I might not have enough time to fully convert my car to EFI for the day or two I'll be back before hitting the road for trucking again.

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Moroso or Holley pan for my 5.3 vortex swap into my 69 El Camino?

>>16723322
*vortec

>>16722974
Yes, I will. I'm going to have a dash plaque made for the Lincoln, Imperial, and Excalibur.

>>16723017
The vinyl top is fine; thankfully, I only had surface rust. No rot. Surface rust you can sand, prime, and repaint. Rot has to be cut out and replaced.

Anyone here have a 74 dodge dart?

>>16723609
I have a 74 duster which is virtually the same car with a slopier ass.

>>16723649
Lewd

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>>16723676
muh aero

>>16723322
truck pan for lels

>>16723171
you're welcome anon, it's a great photo!

>>16723649
hey me too anon! 74 duster ftw!

>>16722579
Hey guys

I'm thinking of saving my sheckels to buy an older Rolls Royce to fix up. Are the ones from the 70's-80's complete unfixable nightmares? Or would it be a fun project?

>>16724037
You are most likely going to hate yourself if you buy one that needs work

>>16722737
This was posted on craigslist in the Tri-C area. You can't fool me. Show me a time stamp with a new picture.
[spoiler]Or sell me the car[/spoiler]

What defines a classic car, exactly?

>>16724085
No longer needed to be smog tested but enjoyed by at least ten people in my book.
or around 25 years at least.

>>16724085
Legally, pretty much anything over 25-30 years old. But it's up to interpretation. A 1988 Toyota Camry SE isn't a classic, but a 95 Toyota Celica gt4 will be.

>>16724024
Yours is probably what mine is aspiring to be.
Duster sex appeal is top notch.

>>16724083
He sold this like, 2 years ago, it's an old picture

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>>16724083
That was a long time ago i had that posted on craigslist, you have a very good memory.

Here, have an out of focus one too.

>>16722611
>What branch?

>>16724037
I owned a '67; don't do it unless you plan to swap the entire drive train for that of a Chevrolet.

>>16724703
VERY fast lincoln driving at incredible hihg speed

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fuck it, im going to daily drive my car with a solid cam lifters and roller rockers. I want to try something different to hydraulics

Anybody have experience doing this?

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>>16725346

>>16725368
shouldn't be that bad, right?

>>16726287
Apparently it's doable but loud as hell

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>bump

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Already posted this in QTDDTOT, ( >>16727618 )but copying here because it was suggested and actually isn't an awful idea.

Do any of you have any experience with chemical rust removers like https://www.theruststore.com/Rust-Release-SuperGel-P224C0.aspx ? If so, how well did it really work?

I'm looking at the underside of a 30 year old truck that I got from a relative up north where the snow and salt and time have taken their toll. Pic related, unfortunately.

>>16727705
those dollies are awesome, where can i pick them up?

>>16727719
That's actually not bad for a 30 year old truck that had to contend with road salts. Do a quick underside scrubbing and try to remove as much dirt, rust and grease as possible, the better job you do the better the paint will stick. Try buying spraycan undercoating, And get the quick dry version. I've found that shit works pretty well even on moving stuff like suspension parts. It'll stick to pretty much anything.

>>16727705
That poor Fury. It must be terribly embarrassed.

>>16727747
It definitely could be worse, that's for sure. You've pretty much hit the nail on the head for what I intend to do in general, though. I actually bought several cans of oven cleaner for the express purpose of coating as much shit as I can reach underneath with it, letting it soak for a while, and then washing it all off to cut as much grease as I can with a minimum amount of effort.

>>16727741
we got em at harbor freight.
>>16727750
It's actually a coronet, Basically the same shit though. Chrysler loves reusing designs all across the board, even today.

>>16727705
That body style is sexual

>>16727766
>>16727747
To add to this because I'm an idiot and completely forgot, there ARE a few spots where the rust is significantly worse. You'll notice in the picture that there's no exhaust after the second cat. Mostly because the tail pipe fell off within a couple weeks of me getting the truck, followed a couple months after by the muffler deciding to go its own way while I was on the highway. I hacked off what was left of the pipe so it was clean, and haven't regretted it once. It sounds fucking amazing right now.

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>>16727766
if you're looking to cut grease Might I suggest this? If there's a dollar tree near you it can be had for $1 a bottle. I bought 50 and dunked my engine in it during the rebuild

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>>16727780
Holy fuck I completely forgot this stuff existed. I used to love that shit.

>>16727795
Nice, my radiator is leaking like a levee.
Fan blew coolant all over the engine bay.

I have this theory that you guys are all neckbeards who bought their first second hand shitbox 30 fucking years ago.
While being stuck in your basements, enough time has passed to make your shitbox a classic.

Congratulations, mfw i'll have to wait for soo long before i can post my brz in ccg

>>16727795
my bad, didn't mean to quote you.

>>16727836

>I have this theory that you guys are all neckbeards who bought their first second hand shitbox 30 fucking years ago.

That's cool but i'm 23 bro

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>>16727849
23 as well. But i do have a raging neckbeard going on.

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>>16727836
I'm 21 and my first and third cars was a 2000 Luces rx300 and an 01 Acura cl.

Old cars are fun my dude

>>16727854
Poor Ford wondering why you didn't let him into the heated house.

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>>16727872
the son of a bitch is garage kept. I was just over my parents that day. No room inside and no expectation of fucking HAIL

>>16727887
Nature truly is a cunt bro.
Considering moving to Gran Canaria, supposedly the most stable climate on Earth.

>>16727898
but then you have to deal with sea salt and shit. ever see cars from coastal massachusetts? They contend with road salt AND sea salt. By the time they're only 10 years old they're rotted up past the wheels.

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Finally pulling old carpet from El Pin-chero today, the old one was literally growing both mushrooms and grass

>>16727915
>getting rid of natural turf which REGENERATES ITSELF
>replacing it with artificial "carpet" that JUST ROTS AWAY

wow

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>>16727898
Nature looks cool though.

And just go to Colorado or the plains, there's no temp deviations

>>16727932
>Temp
I mean not much humidity fluctuations

>>16727906
>>16727932
Salt is so hideous.

Why don't we just use sand instead, everything might turn brown but it doesn't rot literally everything

>>16727986
We use sand in Denver. That's why my car looks like shit all the time.

>>16727795
>I recognize that chassis
is that a 1990s ford

>>16727995
Salty cars look like shit too mang

>>16728018
This is true, but our roads are brown

Currently saving up to buy a 60's/70's Ford truck. My problem is everything fucking rusts in the west, so finding one that isn't a rust bucket, way overpriced, or doesn't have engine/trans is virtually impossible.

>>16728087
Where are you located? Have you considered buying out of state?

>>16728087
WA, CA, AZ are very easy climates on cars when it comes to rust usually, just don't get coastal cars.

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>>16727915
God damned carpet Jew, trying to slow down my pristine racing automobile with his lies. And mold.

>>16728267
I'm finally beating the hubcap jew; I know that feel, bro.

Like hubcaps, the effects of carpet are minimal: it adds unnecessary weight, offers minimal protection, and is expensive to replace.

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>tfw car is old enough to be a classic
>tfw car isnt cool enough to be a classic

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>>16728937
>someone actually understands that old=/=classic
Refreshing

>>16728937
What car tho

>>16729024
>being an elitist prick about what car is classic and what car isn't
Once they survive long enough they all are.

>>16729847
Your 92 civic isn't a classic.

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Fuck you, hubcap jew! Wire wheel master race!

>>16730194
Wonder what it looks like with slot mags

>>16722669
Honestly, no. The only way you're gonna get any power at all would be to swap. I have the manual from JTR, it's pretty involved. I have the molasses 2.5 4 cylinder in my '90, but it's my beater and I decided it wouldn't be worth the time and money because of everything else I'd have to fix along the way. I'd say that rebuilding your 2.8 would be a decent experience to learn how to do it if you've never done it before. You could do the top end with it still in the truck, but for bottom end you'd have to pull the engine.

>>16730194
Noice. Don't like the mismatched tires though, I feel triggered

>>16727836
I'm currently 25, my first car was my 79 Thunderbird that I bought when I was 20

>>16730537
That's a big car..

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>>16730545
Only a bit over 18 feet

>>16730194
>bluewalls after all this time

REEEEEEEEEEEE

Can't quite make myself like those cars. The back seat area is just wrong. Maybe if it was boattail it'd be better but then it's still a few feet too short to really pull off the styling themes they wanted.

>>16730394
The matching tires are on order and will be in on Monday.

>>16730563
It'll be fixed Monday evening.

They're one of those rare cars that look better in person than they do in pictures. Something looks off in photos; the same goes for trying to photograph stainless steel.

>>16727836
Also, I'm 28 and I could sell all my classics and parts for them and buy a new GTR; I just don't like them and I'm happy with my hobbies.

>>16730634
Nice my dude. What do you do for a living?

>>16730727
I'm an undertaker; though, I have a few issues with where I'm working, so I may switch jobs soon.

>>16730648
There's no way your shitboxes are worth as much as a GTR.

>>16730772
2017 GTR - $109,990

1966 Imperial - $7,000
1976 Cadillac - $1,500
1978 Excalibur - $35,000
1979 Lincoln - $4,500
1981 DeLorean - $25,000
1984 Fiero - $5,500

Total: $78,500

Not enough for the GTR...

But wait, there's MORE!

1982 Harley Davidson FXRS Prototype and former personal bike of John A. Davidson (Literally, my retirement fund) - $125,000 (Offer I received from the Harley Davidson Museum back in 2002.)

Yeah; nah. I could have TWO brand-new GTRs if I wanted to, faggot. I just happen to like shitboxes and working on them.

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I talked about this in a other ccg, but i finally got around to snapping a photo...

Behold, my awful dash wrap on my '94 Ram 1500

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>>16730883
I know, i know... a 1994 ram 1500 is technically not a classic... (i swear it will be one day "future Classic!")

So now i'll make up for it by posting my nearly finished brake assembly replacement for my '69 mustang.

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>>16730883
what glue did you use?

>>16730907
oh, lol. are you the same anon from the other thread?

I used some 3M spray adhesive, it said it was good for higher heat stuff and for adhesion on plastics and vinyls... I can't remember what it was exactly...

i used contact cement for other parts of the dash too...


some of the bubbles were caused by the fiberglass patches i put on it before wrapping.

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>>16730903
you did it without breaking those little clips?
good work

>>16730820
>1982 Harley Davidson FXRS Prototype and former personal bike of John A. Davidson (Literally, my retirement fund) - $125,000 (Offer I received from the Harley Davidson Museum back in 2002.)
What the fuck nigger how have I never heard of this. Pictures please

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FUUUUUCK. I know I just bought my Lincoln and all..

But this 1959 Buick just popped up..

Guys.. Should I pull the trigger? A 59 Buick is THE car I want

https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/6011644662.html

>>16731726
Save your money and wait for a 2dr Invicta. You get the 401 in the same body and the 2dr looks better that year

>>16731743
Nah, I want four door and it has more room in it, brah.

>>16731766
It's not liking you'll be struggling for space in the coupe tbqh

>>16731773
I don't particularly prefer the coupe, yknow? I've been looking at these 59 Buicks for a long while and haven't seen one so reasonably priced before.. Nevertheless I'm at least taking it for a test drive

Plus the bigger the better

>>16731766
The trunk is the same senpai. The 2dr might be a little smaller in the rear seat but that's it. They're fucking massive cars

>>16731799
I fuck in the back seats a lot desu. Drive ins are the best for big boats

>>16731825
>implying the owner of a 1976 4dr Lincoln who frequents 4chan is getting any pussy at all

>>16731474
Lol, yeah.

next time just take a flathead and bend the tabs up just slightly over the pins then just slide them out.

maybe yours were too rusty?

>>16731837
Starting Truck driving 8 months ago and seeing the world and stuff really got me in the game. I have a gf so I'm not fucking around. But we still like to go to the drive in every now and then.

Plus I want many many babies. And want to take my kids in the back of my prize car

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>>16722579
Just blew out the seals in my turbo : ( Would it be safe driving her home, or should I just get a tow?

>Super 16g time

>>16729844
w123

>>16731848
So you don't really need the space. Get a 2 door. Plenty of people raised families in 2 door fullsize American cars. You can still fit 6 adults in a 59 GM 2 door easily.

>>16731858
How far? If it leaks into the compressor side you're gonna wonk up your octane rating, turbine side it's gonna burn assloads of oil.

>>16731863
I like the w123.

>>16731858
AAA is your friend my dude.

>>16731791
Fair enough.

>>16731875
Its the turbine side, as I was saw and smelt the smoke. The drive back home would only be ~10 minutes tops

>>16731877
I'm under my fathers insurance, and Dad can get a tow for free : )


Today was pretty good, other than this shit happening on my way to work.

>>16731877
but its a [spoiler]shitty basic autotragic 240d sedan[/spoiler]

>>16731882
Should be fine, check your oil before starting out, keep RPM's low, DO NOT BOOST.

>>16731922
Om606 with dump truck turbo

Would be neat

>>16731930
Besides this, how would I investigate how my seals blew? How would I check the oil return line, and should I check the down pipe before the kitty catalyst?

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Oh my.. What's this?

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It's exactly what i said it would be earlier!

>>16732045
frosty go home, you're supposed to be in jail how did you order fuel injection and get a phone camera in there?

>>16732050
>tfw phone always takes larger than 4mb pictures
>have to take frosty pics and shake my phone while I take pictures in order for my phone to decrease file size

>>16732054
you can change that in the settings my nyukka

>>16732058
*Nibba*

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Time to not touch it for one or two weeks! Might be going on the 59 Buick instead if I get it

>>16732079
Noice

Let me know how you like it.

>>16731700
It looks generic; I can't take any specific pictures because I have it in special storage back in Wisconsin.

I was talking with my dad and his friends last night about if they ever once thought that the cars they used to joy ride in their youth would turn into a huge collectors market. I look at today's cars and I can only think of a handful that would be worth something 60 years from now. The massive amount of electronics in today's cars kills it.

>>16732710
I wonder what's going to happen in 15 years when poorfags need cheap used cars

>>16731949
Google is your friend, only way to check the return line is to remove it.

>>16723051>>16723038

how do you fix this type of rust? you cut a steel sheet and weld it into that hole now?

>>16728013
So, so, so, SO close. It's an '89 Bronco. Late reply, but I was asleep and then at work.

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>>16732264
How'd you acquire those. Harley is my fetish, especially the classics

>>16732822
yes, that is usually how you go about fixing that type of rust.

I want to get into welding guys, whats the best type to start with? Arc? Mig? Flux?

>>16733244
What do you want to weld is the better question. MIG is the easiest to learn on, but doesn't have as many real applications in the auto world

>>16730545
for you

>>16731843
my clips were brand new and I broke them putting them on. the safety wire works fine though lol

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>>16725346
>cream colored wagons

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>>16727836
>my brz
pottery

>>16733219
My father bought it used in 1984 when, thanks to AMF having nearly destroyed Harley Davidson, you could buy something like that for $12,000.00.

I got it from him as a "gift" a few months before they divorced.

>>16732710
Yeah, i really, REALLY can't see anyone lusting after my 250,000 mile 2001 malibu... Literally all the problems it has are electronic.

>>16732710
>le electronics are hard to fix meme

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>>16733808
ok.

There's a short somewhere in this harness which is causing a drain to the battery.

You may use any tool you wish.

Good luck, have fun. Faggot.

>>16733585
That's fucking cool man. If you ever get the chance, I'd love to see pictures. Does that prototype have an Evo or a pan? That is some badass history there though. You ridden them?

>>16733838
If it was just a short in the 12v it still wouldn't be that hard. The problem is most parasitic draws on modern cars are caused by bad modules. Since there's often 8-10 modules on one CAN it's very difficult to diagnose draws on these without either a breakout box or known good modules. On the newest cars the modules are permanently programmed to each car, so you can't get a used one from the junkyard, and even if you had a new one you would need the dealership to program it. We are definitely in an era where people will no longer be able to fix cars in their garage, but it's only the last few years and there's still some non luxury cars that aren't too bad (but not for long).

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>>16731726


Ehhh.. The 59 Buick needs new rubber seals for the doors and windows and such.. Is it hard or expensive to seal up these cars? The seller says he stores it inside, but I don't have a dry place to keep it for now.. So it would have to sit out in the elements..

Checking it out later today though

>>16734011
A tarp for direct water contact and some (and by some I mean lots of) moisture absorbing stuff on the inside for creeping moisture should take care of it.

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>>16734011
My brother bought some universal seals for his caprice, they work pretty well, he said. You might wanna try that first, because weather stripping made for any specific classic will anally ream your wallet.

>>16733808
Actually yes, it will be almost impossible to get electronics fixed for very long after a car is produced. Even today it's almost impossible to get a Teves Mark II ABS system fixed and those are only 30 years old. Right now I'm dealing with a PCM failure on a 2000 Lincoln LS. Central processor quit so I had to source a rebuilt PCM and now it has to go to the dealer so that they can use dealer-only diagnostic equipment to open the security center in order to introduce the new PCM to the PATS module and get them to play nice with each other. This is also going to require two new transponder keys too. You think a dealer going to have the shit around to do this in 2050 or 2060? And that's only a crummy Ford, just think of the shit you'd have to go through with a BMW or something.

>>16733838
I use gun to shoot myself.

>>16734011
That thing is fucking tuff, you should buy it

Hey guys, I have a question!

I was talking to someone about putting a turbo or a supercharger in a classic car, and he talked to me about something called a forced-induction carburetor, and said that you can turbo a naturally aspirated engine with one.

Do you guys have any experience with that sort of stuff? Would it be "looked down upon" for putting a turbo in a vintage car? Do any of you know where I'd be able to find a forced induction carb? I have no experience with that sort of stuff and don't even know what I'm looking for.

>>16734225
It's called a blow through carb. Since your asking here, and give no other details about the car, I'd say it's probably not going to happen, try some easier projects first.

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>>16734032
I'll keep that in mind, thanks
>>16734039
Probably what I'll try doing. I guess since I'll be home a lot more soon enough, I won't mind having a new project car to do that kind of stuff.
>>16734109
Seriously considering. I'd sell both my Lincoln and 87 mr2 for this car

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>>16732069
Nia!

>>16734273
>It's called a blow through carb
Gotcha, thanks!
> Since your asking here, and give no other details about the car,
'72 Maverick, and I didn't say the engine it has in it right now because I'm going to be swapping it soon anyways.
If you'd like to know, it currently has a Falcon 6 250 CI 6 Cylinder and only made about 140 horsepower new, but because its the original engine, I'm sure it's lost quite a bit.
I'm going to be putting a '71 302 in there as soon as I can buy one.

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>>16734312

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So I just bought this as my shitbox.
318is, no rust, decently maintained. Need lots of cosmetic fixes (nothing that would disqualify it), but mechanically very good.
Can I consider it a youngtimer?

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>>16734328
>'72

I'm not sure exact years, but i know earlier mavericks had 4 lug suspensions for straight sixes and 5 lug for v8's, You might wanna check up and count how many lug nuts are holding your tires on. you should look into converting to 5 lug suspension atleast in the front if you've got 4 lugs. It's only a little bit dangerous to be putting a v8 with any respectable power into a car with suspension set up for a straight 6.

BTW, that straight six made around 140hp at the flywheel with no accessories on the engine. To the wheels it's more like 80-90hp.

>>16734459
>You might wanna check up and count how many lug nuts are holding your tires on
Yeah, it's 4 lug. I have the parts to do it, I just don't want to start messing with stuff until I actually get the motor, you know? And I may just decide to build another Maverick so I wont be on such a time crunch when I decide to build it.

>BTW, that straight six made around 140hp at the flywheel with no accessories on the engine. To the wheels it's more like 80-90hp.
That has to do with the different horsepower ratings, right? Like net vs gross? Because I think those changed in '71, I think it might be 140 to the wheels, but I could completely be wrong.

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Are carb spacers a meme, or do they actually produce measurable performance gains?

>>16734504
>net vs gross
Yep, I guess they did switch over by 72, You might wanna check out automobile catalog. It has alot of interesting shit.

http://www.automobile-catalog.com/car/1972/840770/ford_maverick_2-door_sedan_250_six_cruise-o-matic.html

by the way, you only need to use blow through carbs with turbochargers or centrifugal/paxton/any other of the same style superchargers. A regular old school blower you won't need any type of special carb, as they mount on top and the carbs aren't seeing any positive pressure whatsoever.

if you've got the money then i'd say go for it, but make sure you don't skimp on the rest of the engine. You have to build a motor around boost or N/A. You can't go strapping a supercharger or turbo onto a hot N/A motor and expect it to work. Most of the time you'll ping the engine to death, spin a bearing, throw a rod, or destroy a piston because of improper ring gap for boost.

>>16734537
They actually produce measure performance gains on certain engines and setups. I don't know the exact theory behind them, but it has something to do with allowing the air and fuel to mix better, I'm sure turbulence has something to do with it too

>>16731930
>>16731877

Got my car towed this morning. Lost a lot of oil, but still could have driven her. Only bad thing is that she won't start now : *( We tried jumping and putting more gas in, but all that didn't work. It's not looking good right now.

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>>16733868
It's a shovelhead and this is the only picture of it I have on hand.

>>16734763
That's pretty cool. What I'd it valued at, and does it have a VIN or prototype VIN?

>>16734537
Ford found on the 289's in the mid Sixties that a one inch spacer made better power because it gave the air/fuel mix time to turn into the port maintaining better velocity and homogeneity , rather than bouncing off the floor of the manifold plenum with the fuel washing out on the floor.

Needless to say this is a function of manifold design and a manifold with a taller plenum and a straighter shot down into the ports would benefit less than one that too short and has sharp turns because it has to fit under a low hood. Also spacers can have a minor effect on pulse tuning if the port length is almost right and a little bit longer would help but that's only in a fairly narrow rpm range of course.

>>16733230
how do you round it to contour the body at the right angle without a mold of the car? or leaving hammer marks all over the metal?

>>16734638
Pull the plugs, could have a cylinder full of oil.

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>>16734763
is the silver car a delorean?

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>>16735032
Actually rolling it all out from scratch would be way too much work, the way to do it is cutting a roof off a donor car, there's plenty around. It is possible to do it from scratch but even an expert would end up needing to use a lot of filler.

>>16735032
More often a donor car is cut up and unrusted panels welded in

>>16735067
Yeah, drac has the skrilla my man

Hey drac, what do you do as an undertaker? Is it hard? I assume it pays well with all your toys?

throw in trunk liner?

someone already glued shit carpet in there that I just tore out.

>>16735077
>>16735081
ok that makes perfect sense and i feel retarded for not thinking about that

>>16734840
Never had it formally valued; no need to, as I have no intention of selling it while my father is alive.

It's a conventional VIN, but it's an odd one.

>>16735067
That was my second DeLorean; I'm on #6 now.

>>16735138
It doesn't pay well; the hours suck, too. I do everything from removing bodies from wherever they die to embalming, contracts, pre-need, and burial.

My toys are a remnant of my previous business ventures.

>>16735212
Would a mortician pay well? Im a sad young boi, and need to find a career to go into.

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It's nice to have a working one on.

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>>16735987
Man that thing got fucked.

>>16735987
Damn

>>16736017
>>16736043
So I'm guessing "slant 6 likes to crack their manifolds" normally doesn't go that far?

>>16735973
No. You work brutal hours for not much pay; look for a civil service job, instead. I'm apt to change my career soon so that I actually have the ability to take days off and not work every other weekend.

Being on call also sucks; literally half the week I can't do anything that would mean it would take me more than 30 minutes to respond to a call.

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This truck came in for a flat repair. Couldn't fit it on a lift so we had to use a jack. Only had 47k miles on the clock. Pretty cool guy too.

>>16735212
What previous ventures? If you don't mind

>>16736271
Classic car sales and restoration; working three jobs from age 14 through 18; three years in the Army, and a few other things.

>>16736299
Didn't realize you were so enterprising

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We're rocking now boys

>>16736478
Build me engine pls

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1 of 3000 made
Bridgeported
Fucking carb is a Holley (goodbye turns)

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>>16736486
no shoo

>>16723685
I've seen that car before? Cape Breton?

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>>16736520
can't wait to put this on next weekend

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and this

>>16736502
what's wrong with holley you little shit

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>>16736502

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So my 5.3 is just about wrapped up but I have a problem

The starter is on fucking Struggle Street and barely cranks. I just used jumper cables and connected them to the battery in my car.

Could it just be the jumper cables are shit or too long?

>>16736588
>Could it just be the jumper cables are shit or too long?

Never heard of bad jumper cables and no they arent too long. Did you check the voltage on your problem battery?

>>16736635
I used another battery in my dad's truck and it was the same issue, both batteries are fine. I also pulled the starter and it did all the things a starter does when I connected it to the battery.

Either the cables are shit or I have bigger problems, I'm not trying to fire it, just crank it with the starter. The harness isn't even plugged into the computer

>>16736745
Check the connections to solenoid, and starter

>>16735212
>That was my second DeLorean; I'm on #6 now.
what do you mean you are on #6 now? do you still own the other 5? or do you just restore them to resell?

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driving around with a radio feels weird now, after years of only having the engine to listen to music is so alien to my galaxie now.

all that's left is to get some brackets to fasten it to the floor. It likes to slide around a bit.

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how old does my rig need to be to post here?
also anyone done a tbi to carb conversion before?

>>16737138
fuck it, if it's old it counts. Blog about your woes.

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>>16737188
most woes are sorted now
>bought truck
>go to leave sellers house
>truck wont fire off
>slap a bypass relay on the fuel pump to get it fired up
>weird the seller knew to do that so fast.jpg
>roll on back to the ferry terminal to get off the island
>wont start in the waiting area to board the ferry
>wellshit.jpg
>try a few more times, finally sputters to life
>cools off on ferry ride back
>fires up good but surges like a bitch up the ramp to the dock
>somehow get it home that night under its own power
>start diagnosing issues when its light
>figure out im just having a fuel delivery issue
>niggerig a pressure gauge in and find it wont even move the needle from 0 to 1 psi
>pull line and this is the full free flow of the pump
1/2 major issues so far the rest are just little things

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>>16722656
I had this problem once.

Remember kids...it's bad if you start the car without remembering to tighten down all the fuel lines after rebuilding your fuel system.

Sorry no pics of the fire extinguisher aftermath. Was too busy assessing the damage. In the end it only claimed a couple vacuum hoses and a lot of powder to clean out. If you have a classic car...keep a fire extinguisher inside where you can quickly get to it.

>>16737248
>it's bad if you start the car without remembering to tighten down all the fuel lines after rebuilding your fuel system.
Literally what happened to me

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>>16737248
...yup

I've had one in the back seat ever since my electrical system caught fire underneath my dash and after disconnecting the battery I had to stand there like a doofus waiting for it to burn out.

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>>16737138
manlet steps

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>>16737301
yeah yeah, theyre coming off soon. i keep smacking my shins on them anyway
>tfw endless misfires

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Now unrelated to fires...

When I got my delorean one of the first things I did was strip the red paint off to assess if there was any damage and start getting it back to a proper finish. Lo and behold the doors and rear panels were in bad shape.

I managed to source some good used replacements from DMC Midwest and proceeded to swap em out.

A word of wisdom though...without the strut or torsion bar delorean doors weigh a fucking ton and hurt like hell if you accidentally kick out the support during reinstallation.

>>16737316
Do I know you? What's your vin?

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>>16737259
almost did that when i was sorting out my fueling issues.
couldve been real bad since everything was up to temp when i was about to pressurize it again

>>16737275
no car fires myself yet, but i think ill go get an extinguisher tomorrow. you guys are making me paranoid

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>>16737393
Probably not. 5087

>>16737470
I've owned 6982, 1601, 1265, 3676, 1269 and 4590.

What are some of the unsolved mysteries of your cars?

>>16738232
My suspension makes a pretty loud bang when i take a very sharp right and go over a bump.

Still have yet to figure that one out.

>>16738232
The power inside my 68 Lincoln stays on with no key in. Windows, radio, blower fan all work until I disconnect the battery. Really need to track that one down

>>16735973

Dracula's side job is oil baron

>>16736526
Idk man that's some google images

>>16738232
>When I brake, the right front marker light comes on and the light on the dash illuminates.
>The alternative is that I can wire it so that doesn't happen, but then my tail light doesn't work on the back right

>>16738232
If the engine exploded at 11,000 miles or 111,000 miles

>>16738232
My 97 E320 was titled to an insurance company twice (read: salvaged) but it somehow has a clean title with no reported accidents.

>>16738232
It's my motorcycle but
>turn key
>electric fuel pump pumps
>gas starts vomiting down the side of my bike
>wut
>come back 2 days later
>doesn't do it

also
>leaks coolant at the engine sometimes
>stops and i never see it happening again

>>16738379
it sounds like a sticking needle inside the carb(s). Might be time for a good cleaning.

>>16738232
dome light only comes on for passenger door but driver door switch works fine and still activates buzzers.
mystery resonance at 61-63 mph and only at those speeds
exhaust abruptly changes tone and volume based on temperature

>>16738394
It hasn't done it in over a year and i don't let them sit.

i had previously opened a drain screw so it might have been stuck open.

>>16738416
well sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.

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Welp. I'm going to buy the 59 Buick four door lesabre for 5600. It's just my dream car and stuff and I really wouldn't mind making it my project car, yknow?

>>16738569
wax that bitch up, I'll bet the black will shine halfway decently.

>>16738569
Nice! The question is, which car gets fuel injection, the daily or the project?

>>16738587
I'll be selling my Lincoln to put my money back into savings. It'll sell pretty easy since it passed smog 10 days ago with the 460 and a four barrel.

The 364 nail head will be getting the EFI for now. Thinking of swapping in a better engine in the future though and I'll put the EFI on that

Not sure if I want to sell the 87 mr2 though, it's kind of my baby and it wouldn't sell for that much anyways since it's kinda beat up.

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>>16738232
pic related throttle sticks when I stab the throttle at low speeds, seriously have zero idea why or how

>>16738613
Will you change your name tho?

>>16738613
>Thinking of swapping in a better engine in the future though and I'll put the EFI on that
Keep it a nailhead plocks

>>16738613
What will you be doing for a fuel system with the EFI?

>>16738337
Ground on the back right is shit. Could be the socket, could be the wire, or even the connection where the ground wire bolts to the body.

>>16738658
It works fine now though, just the front right marker light comes on when I brake. I can live with that.

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>>16738624
Most likely.
>>16738652
I'll definitely consider it. I wouldn't be engine swapping for a looooong time, so the nailhead is staying for the time being.
>>16738654
Well I'm assuming I can just put in a 50 psi electric fuel pump and close off the mechanical fuel pump hole that's on the 364.. Shouldn't be too difficult. It's currently got a throw away two barrel carb on it and the fuel system seems simple as fuck to mess with

>>16738232
Crank wheel left and reverse, loud thunk from front suspension, been that way for 6 years, and the alignment is still straight and nothings loose.

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Does /ccg/ think the days of "finding" desirable muscle cars are over?

I want to say yes, becaus a lot of boomers browse craigslist every minute of the day, and have been running newspaper ads for years. They hoard all the rare and desirable cars, which will sit and rot away because the lazy fucks will never restore them. Meanwhile, they chop all the lesser-optioned cars to pieces for parts to fix their garbage. But for some reason, they consider the middle of the woods a good place to store those parts, so they'll disintegrate, too.

On the other hand, I like to think there's some hope. Most of them should be dying in the next 10-20 years, so there will be plenty of huge car collections dumped off on clueless soccer moms who don't know about muh numbers matching or muh $100K vin digits. That, or the retarded boy racer great-grandson.
>One day I'll trade a rusty, stanced, 200k-mile '05 WRX for a Charger 500 and a Hemi Dart.

>>16738871
>"finding"
Yes,
Barrett Jackson has turned every barned muscle car into a hidden pot of gold.

>>16738871
>realizing how lucky you ate to get the car you want

>"they chop all the lesser-optioned cars to pieces for parts"

>because you actually like the 4 door version but most of them have that fate and are much harder to find, despite many more being made than the 2 door variants

>>16738816
If you do that, you will need to run a return line to the tank. Consider getting an auxiliary fitech command center. You can run your fuel system from your mechanical pump to the command center, and the command center directly to the TBI unit. Sadly I don't think you can just run a standalone pump.

>>16738871
Of course you can. I found my truck under a tree. They made a lot of muscle cars. Pounding the pavement will get you a result and barn finds will airways happen

>>16738232
My car shakes at speed. I've replaced the tires, suspension, brakes and rotors, and the steering rack to no avail (all needed updating anyway). I'm suspecting maybe a deformed rim or maybe something with the rear axels. Hoping to try doing something with all of that this summer.

>>16738652
Seconding this.
>>16738816
Congrats, post some more pics when you get it. I love 50s interior

>>16739477
6cyl car?
>CHOPPED
318?
>CHOPPED
4 doors?
>CHOPPED
Column shift?
>CHOPPED
Doesn't have door posts?
>CHOPPED
Large dent in one fender or quarter?
>CHOPPED

I just wanna hunt down all those fuckers and sign the Organ Donor lines on their IDs. That way when they die they'll be parts cars, too.

>>16739715
I'm not saying they're no longer there. What I worry about is a combination of boomer chop-shop tactics reducing the numbers of affordable, lower-trim, poorly-optioned cars to near extinction and things like Barrett Jackson pushing the prices of the remaining cars through the roof, since now everyone "knows what they got".

All I want is a cheap '68-70 Mopar.

>>16739941
You're outnumbered bud. Most people like the 2 doors more than the 4 doors. You're not entitled to find the car you want in the condition you want for the price you want. Nobody in this thread bought their first choice in car for the price they wanted, with all the options they wanted in the condition they wanted. They either ponied up the cash or compromised somewhere. It's always been like this. The only way you get the car you want is by building it or buying it new. We don't have the second option.

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>>16739715
Hmm.. Sucks if I have to shell out another $400 on top of the $800.. Are you sure I need that system on top of an electric fuel pump?

>>16739903
Fur shuh. The interior is a little dingy, but it's solid nonetheless. I don't like the cloth bottom

>>16740168
You must have misread that. I didn't say I prefer all those shitty options. Those are just the things that push these cars' values down enough to make them reasonably affordable.

I literally said all I want is a cheap '68-70 Mopar. If I could just find a stripped out Charger, Challenger, Super Bee, etc. within my budget, I'd have no trouble nickel & dime-ing it into the car I want. Matching numbers mean nothing to me.

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>tfw when someone steals ur original gas cap

>>16739850
Check driveshaft for straightness?

>>16740309
1971-1973 Mustang is best Mustang

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LYa-93BYj0

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>>16739477
>tfw wagons have to actively be rescued to Europe so they don't end up parted out or squashed in monster truck shows
Why do Americans hate their own cars so much and only obsess over the same dozen models?

>>16740844
Burk Roadmassa

>>16740844
Fuckin sweet, glad you bought it man. Pics of engine bay?

>>16741018
7 more hours and itll be mine

>>16740844
Fuck yes

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we just picked this cutie up last friday for $4000. runs like a new truck, only missing the front tank and had to flush/replace the coolant.

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>>16741556

>>16739941
>6cyl car?
>>CHOPPED
Mine was a 6 cylinder.

Might be why the P.O. said it sat on the lot for over a year before i bought it.


>>16740203
>If I could just find a stripped out Charger, Challenger, Super Bee, etc. within my budget
It's just not going to happen, you listed 3 of the most desirable Mopars ever.

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>>16741565
>>16741556
>Those wheel covers
Let me guess, Mexican owner
>missing front tank
Where did it go?

>>16742059
front tank had a leak
yeah, gotta get around to taking those wheel covers off

How rare are 1980 Ford Fiestas in mint condition? Just got one for free from a dude who was throwing it away in Northern California.

>>16742154
Not very
That's the definition of generic shitbox.
Notice how similar it is to a Dodge Omni

>>16742186
Also extremely similar (if not the same car rebranded) to the VW Rabbit from the same year.
I can't find a single other fucking Fiesta or parts in my area or online, what the fuck do I do?
I know I said it was mint but it just needs the quarter panel window.

>>16742195
You can probably have someone fabricate a new window, ask Safelite.

if I can find something cheap, would a 60s-70s-era car be a good place to start if I have zero experience wrenching on the actual guts of a car?
the most intensive thing I've ever done is replacing the cam position sensor on my old Volvo S80 (which is now dead because the timing belt needs a replacement and it'd cost more than the car's value)
Ideally I'd want a sofa, but for my very first project I guess it'd be better to just take what I can get for $500 or so

>>16742307
>would a 60s-70s-era car be a good place to start if I have zero experience wrenching on the actual guts of a car?

Any old car like this will have nothing in the way of sensors etc.
It's all mechanical.
If you want a good place to start to learn, go for something with a 350 SBC.
They're dirt cheap, the aftermarket is probably the biggest in the world and they're stupid simple.

Chevy Novas were like the Honda Civics of the time. Most probably won't have bench seats though.

>>16736828
Why would someone buy and keep 7 delorians

>>16742419
>need
fuck off liberal

>>16742438
He never mentioned need, go take a lap

Do you guys think I could talk this guy down to $500?
I have extra tires I can put on it, and I could probably get the 289 that's in it running.

https://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/cto/6006226022.html

>>16742602
it was a joke Hillshill

>>16736828
I've sold or traded away the other 5.

>>16731863
>w123
what are you talking about, that's totally a german classic. post a pic and don't feel left out.

>>16742610
She's a steal as is, try 650 first before you low ball.

>>16742610
I find that people typically will accept 70-80% of their asking price

>>16739941
>>16740168
imo , the front end of of 70-72 Valiants just....clashes...with the more sporty rear shape of the 2-door versions. To me that grill shape really only fits on the more basic 4 door look.

Then again a 4 door Valiant starred in one of my fave movies so that definitely influenced that though

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>>16731863
dude, the w123 is a TOTAL classic mercedes. Its literally THE car the got me into cars and taught me the very basics of wrenching.

pic related, my old 1978 Mercedes 300D Turbo diesel

>>16742929
>Then again a 4 door Valiant starred in one of my fave movies so that definitely influenced that though
Duel?

>imo , the front end of of 70-72 Valiants just....clashes...with the more sporty rear shape of the 2-door versions. To me that grill shape really only fits on the more basic 4 door look.

The cool thing is the grilles interchange with Darts of the same time period.

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I love pictures like these

>>16742948
Yis. Even got to sit in the surviving truck once! (I just wish the dvd didn't default to that shitty "new" sound track that replaces all the sound effects, and they all sound fake because you've heard them all before..)

And yeah, not surprising the grilles can be swapped, they're both the same body.

>>16742964
>Yis. Even got to sit in the surviving truck once!
Nice, That movie made me love those trucks.
That was a fine movie 2bh

>>16742974
Yep! Though apparently there's a lot of dialogue and even a few short clips that are not on the dvd. I don't know whether they're ONLY available on 74min version or if SOME 90min versions include them.

New thread here, boys >>16744057

>>16722656
damn makes me sad too see this