[ D a i l y B i k e T h r e a d ] - /dbt/ random ducatis I

>>16695919
nice link faggot

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2st for OP is a retard.

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>>16695919
Hnng that Monster 1200

Hello guys how loose is too lose on a chain? like i can hit the swingarm if i play with it but its not so loose that it comes off on its own. should i tighten it up a bit?

thanks,
gabor

>>16695958
There's usually a sticker in your chain cover that tells you how much slack it needs
Other refer to the manual

>>16695958
Just look up your bikes owners manual online and check the chain specs then tighten appropriately you fucking retard.

You seriously think of all the resources available to you asking random people on a Burmese jewel enthusiast forum about the chain tightness of a bike you didn't even specify is the best way to get the correct information?

Jesus Christ you're a fucking moron.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkwJglcuxy0
>Buying a suzuki
>Expecting it to work
top kekkerino

>>16695937
faggot.

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reposting for new thread

thinking about getting a triumph street triple for my first bike and i was wondering how reliable these little british bikes are compared to their japanese counterparts

>>16696026
They're about in between ducati's and yamaha's.

>>16696005
Should have bought a WRR

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>>16696026
>Little
>Same 675 as the Daytona
>A race bike

>>16696005
>obvious knocking noise
>motor dies and makes an awful sound of metal on metal clanking
>retard tries to crank it over again immediately without even looking down
DRZ owners

>>16696026
Just get a FZ09. Speed triple is shit with shit britbong reliability and engineering.

Also slower, sounds worse, and more expensive.

>>16696026
>>16696046

Also they're ugly as fuck

>>16696046
>FZ09
>not XSR900
DUN GOOFED

>>16696046
>Speed triple is shit with shit britbong reliability and engineering
t. never owned/seen/ridden one anon
They're just as reliable as Jap bikes these days but parts are more expensive.

>>16696052
>ugly hipster shit

Nope.

>>16696056
>britbong shit
>any european shit
>ever as reliable as nippon

Get a load of this faggot

>>16696026
They're not too bad, but they're pretty expensive for what you get. I'd go for a jap sport naked or a tuono before getting a street triple

>>16696062
>literally just an FZ09 but with all of its crucial flaws fixed
>"wahhh it doesnt look like a transformer"
whatever u say m8

>crying about bong reliability
>while advocating for a bike recalled for exploding transmissions and oil pans that scrape and rip out your drain plug

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>>16696056
>just as reliable

lel no. Go shill your bong bullshit elsewhere. Triumphs are shit and don't offer anything that you cant get from Nippon that is better.

>>16696046
i dont really like the styling of the fz09 but thats almost 1500 cheaper... ill look into it some more

>>16696090
XSR900
XSR900
XSR900

>>16696090
XSR900 is pretty much the same bike with different styling, and the FZ07 is p. sweet too.

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>>16696087
Owner satisfaction would be better to go off of if you're looking to buy a bike

>>16696080
>all of its critical flaws fixed
>literally the same bike with altered frame and hipster appearance package

nah ur a fag.

>>16696092
XSR900 has better suspension, brakes, throttle response, and ergonomics than the FZ

plus it comes in BLACK N YELLOW BLACK N YELLOW BLACK N YELLOW

>>16696101
>going off data tainted by brand loyaly bullshit and people who would buy something again just because of the way it looks instead of hard reliability data.

topkek

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>>16696102
>i have never rode either of them but here let me explain to you that it is shit because i don't like how it looks

Feel free to kill yourself at any time

>>16696112
to some people, how much they enjoy riding the bike matters more in their purchasing decisions than austistically poring over reliability data spreadsheets

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>>16696101
That's probably the single worst metric you can buy a motorcycle based on. There are so many nonsense variable baked into that that it is meaningless.

>>16696091
this could be a possibility and I'll look cool with my skinny jeans on

>>16696101
>cruisers win
meaningless

>>16696122
Question about bmw reliable.

Is it with any model in particular? Asking because I'm looking into getting a gs1200 adventure.

>>16696119
A guy is asking about a good bike to start on. You're feeding him a bunch of brand loyalty bullshit instead of quantifiable data on the quality of a bike.

He would be just as happy riding a good bike as he would a bad unreliable bike britbong bike. And he's have a lot less headaches too.

When you own a bike and have no reference point you cant see the forrest for the trees. A new rider would easily think the amount of repairs and maintenance is normal for a less reliable bike. When he could have had a more reliable bike and enjoyed himself more of the time he owns it without having to worry about eurobong tier reliability.

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>>16695919
>>16695957

Loving the round headlight.

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>>16696134
>BMW

Not even once.

>>16696134
gsa1200 is the mall cruiser bro truck of offroad bikes
They are reliable
Get KTM's new 790 adventure instead.

>>16696133
Nothing wrong with people being happy with their purchase. Everyone I know with a victory loves the fuck out of them. Very reliable bikes

>>16696143
He is buying a brand new bike, it's not like shit is going to just start breaking on it.

Unless, of course, you buy a Yamaha and it has to get recalled again.

>>16696154
>talking about unreliability of eurobong bikes
>someone asks about BMW reliability
>KTMvarna shill instantly jumps in to shill even LESS reliable bikes.

fucking kek.

>>16696158
>He is buying a brand new bike, it's not like shit is going to just start breaking on it.
>britbong bike

Oh how wrong you are.

>>16696154
Not really any ktm places around me.

How's the stom 1k? I'd wanna use it for going up to the mountains and camping n such.

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Anyone else still out there in New England? I went out when it was 20, quite refreshing except for the wind on my gloves.

>>16696134
Honda AFrica Twin nigga

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>>16696026
The Triumph 675 is pretty reliable. I have a bored out version of it in my Tiger, lots of guys with 50k+ on theirs with minimal issue. Make sure if you buy new you follow the break in procedure.

>>16696175
This.

If you're going to buy a big pigfat pretend offroad bike. The Africa Twin is the best of this useless category.

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>>16696194
it aint useless if it still goes places and its comfy, just overweight

>>16696087
>don't offer anything that you cant get from Nippon that is better.
Triple.

>>16696194
>best of this useless category
>doesn't even have cruise control
Wood never buy desu

>>16696211
>just overweight
Which instantly disqualifies it from any serious offroading.

>>16696214
FZ09/XSR900 is a triple, and its one of the best triples ever made

>>16696215
>cruise control

Buy a Harley then fag.

>>16696194
You people get salty about adv bikes. Why so?

>>16696215
>faux offroad bike
>crusie control

This is the kind of retarded market these bikes are marketed to.

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>>16696216
ur not a serious offroader if you dont buy a trials bike, all other contenders are overwieght and cant tackle the same terrain as a trials bike.

;^)

>>16696216
along with every other adv bike. so its right in its class.
what do you even define serious offroading as?

>>16696224
most are too poor for one, the rest are just salty cunts about everything

>>16696218
My non harley bike has cruise control. I don't use it

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>>16696224
They don't have the skills to ride them offroad so they get upset that people want to use them for that.

>>16696224
same reason people get salty about bro trucks
you're paying for more show than go

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>>16696230
>/dbt/ goes to Albuquerque

>>16696224
Because they are useless. They're touring bikes with a lift kit and offroad appearance package so their riders can make believe they're going to ride it around the world.

When really, the guys that actually ride bikes around the world know better and buy much lighter bikes suited for the job.

Adventure bikes are quintessential poser bikes.

>>16696227
>>16696218
I'm saying the only reason I would buy one of those big adventure bikes is for a comfy highway cruiser. And how am I supposed to have a maximum comfy highway cruise without cruise control?

>>16696216
Yamaha bikes all look like fucking transformers. It's gay.

>>16696230
Trials bikes cant into highway.

A real adventure bikes is a highway speed capable bike that is light enough and has enough suspension to be taken offroad while carrying you and your stuff.

There are pretty much no good adventure bikes bigger than 650cc. And even then most 500-650cc adventure bikes are pigfat as fuck.

>>16696234
>bought a $17k glorified dirtbike
plenty of show and not a hell of a lot of go there too

>>16696231
>along with every other adv bike. so its right in its class.
Which is why I said the class is pretty much useless.

If your class of bike is supposedly meant for offroading but all of them are too big and heavy to actually offroad, it's a useless class.

>>16696242
yes extremely homosexual

also the only way a wr250 will go 100 mph is if you drop it from an airplane

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>>16696258
>but all of them are too big and heavy to actually offroad
Manlet detected

>>16696233
>riding down a hill on a hardpack trail.
>HURR IT TAKES SKILL

fucking lol. I could literally do that on my sportbike.

You're a moron.

>>16696240
It's overrated.
I do plenty of road trips and never use it. I feel like it makes people complacent, but I also don't use it in my car either

>>16696240
Then buy an actual touring bike you fucking retard. Why do you want a touring bike with a retarded offroad appearance package?

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>>16696266
I'm actually 6'2" and 225lbs. Try again little guy.

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>>16692951
me again, r8 my autism

the image is sorted by horsepower, but it's a lot more fun on the sheet itself when you're able to filter things dynamically and find internal patterns

i haven't looked into triumphs at all yet, though quite a few people sing the praises of daytona 675 and street triples. My impression is that given their size and the fact that I'm in the US, they're out of my price range. (and also bigger than I want.) Are there any other commonish bikes with 3 cylinders?

also the more data i collect, the more the cbr500r seems like the perfect bike. the v-strom 650 is still cool though.

any mistakes? any research suggestions?

>>16696267
>I could literally do that on my sportbike.
Let's see it then

I'll put you up for the night and we can go for a ride. I live in southern New Mexico let me know when you're close and I'll send you my address

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>>16696258
i dont know i seem to do alright on my pigfat adv bike
even does decent on round rock and sand

>>16696283
when's leg day?

>>16696272
its better for gas mileage and 99% of fucktards on the highway cant maintain a consistent speed which is why there is so much traffic congestion

>>16696266
>more webm of this fag riding aroundon ridrt roads
>literally could do the samee on a sport bike,

If you're riding on trails that wouldn't stop a sportbike. You're definitely not offroading.

>>16696283
gb2/fit fgt

no one cares how much you can bench queer

>>16696285
>Let's see it then
No, I'm not an idiot. I have a dual sport for that. I bought the right tool for the job.

>>16696283
>those tiny forearms
How's that bitch grip treating you young lady

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>>16696290
every day is leg day.

>>16696297
tripfag tried to call me out on being a manlet, I'm just showing him how much of a little bitch he is.

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>>16696293
The offer stands
>>16696285

>>16696303
whoa bro ur rly cool.

>>16696284
Ninja 500 has carbs for all years of production

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>>16696302
>forearms

top kek.

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>>16696283
>>16696303
>mfw anon is properly /fit/
brb going to the gym

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>>16696299
I have one of those too.

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>>16696303
>replying to tripfags

/fit pls go

>>16696303
>small arms
>weak hands
Bitch detected.

>>16696310
Forearms are very useful. I'm sorry you don't understand that

Adventure bikes are the SUVs of motorcycles

most are useless offroad and are only used to ride around town anyway

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>>16696303
muscle=/= ability to do shit
my 5'6 scrawny cousin can whip anyones ass in a fight, and hes proven it many a time against guys like you.
dont count little shits out.


>>16696305
can i come too?

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Swapped a ZX6R master cylinder onto my F4i. The stock master had an integrated reservoir so I had to make my own way to mount the plastic reservoir with this one. I couldn't get a super solid brake lever like the ZX had, but it seems better than the stock CBR one.

>>16696305
You think you're making a point, but your really not. The shit you post yourself riding on wouldn't stop a sportbike. This it is babby tier offroad, Thus all the "awesome offroad capabilities" your claiming your bike has are nonexistent.

You could literally do the same with a naken standard.

No I'm not going to bring my faired sportbike out offfroading, that's a waste of time. I'd just bring my DS.

>>16696334
>muscle=/= ability to do shit
>my 5'6 scrawny cousin can whip anyones ass in a fight, and hes proven it many a time against guys like you.
>dont count little shits out.


this fucking post lol

100% fedoralord confirmed, i bet if you met up to fight him, he would bring a sword

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>>16696331
>>16696302
>>16696320
>>16696331

If I can strapless dead 5 plate for 3 I think I have plenty of forearm strength you dyl faggots.

I don't have babby wrists to make my forearms look big.

>>16696335
That's because you got an entirely different master cylinder, the ratio is probably now completely different and you will never be able to get a firm lever.

if your stock one wasn't firm, it probably needed to be bled or rebuilt. when you change a master cylinder, you have to size it appropriately for the caliper/s or else you will end up with a mushy or excessively hard lever

>>16695957
Saw some blonde brah on one ride through my neighborhood a little while ago. No gear, red anodized exhaust. Also saw an 80s or 90s KLX250 when I got fuel before I rode to lunch an hour away. There was the usual assortment of Herlie Derpidsin riders but in greater numbers than expected; there was even a collection of about 25 of them in the Southridge Mall parking lot. Later, I met a guy and his wife after I had lunch. She had a little red Honda Nighthawk 750 and he had a Honda 919 somethingorother. I asked him what the numbers were on it and that I thought it was probably reasonably quick. He said "only 105HP and 70-something ft-lb of torque." The way he was talking it almost seemed as if he was jelly of my V-Stronk's v-twin in terms of its linear power delivery. His bike looked nice though.

>>16696336
>makes a claim
>gets called out
>keeps making excuses and posting gym pics trying to pretend he's big
That's about what I expected.

>>16696336
so you're not going to back up your claims?


>>16696340
>navy seal
>fedora tier

>>16696344
whered you get my dickpic

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>>16696336
So come ride it on your sportbike. It's super easy so it should be no problem for you. I'd at least put on some TKC80s or something though street tires don't do too well on the soft stuff out here.

Or you can me Wombat and I in Moab at the beginning of May if you'd prefer. Either way is fine with me.

>>16696334
Of course.

>>16696340
He has a retractable katana nurardo edition vape bruh!
No point in arguing with the internets. Everyone here is a keyboard warrior.
I doubt most here could do one actual proper pull up

>>16696334
>muscle=/= ability to do shit
I literally pick heavy things up and put them down 4 days a week. Things as heavy or heavier than most bikes.

You think I cant easily pick up a down bike? fucking lel

>my 5'6 scrawny cousin can whip anyones ass in a fight, and hes proven it many a time against guys like you.
>I KNOW SOMEONE THAT CAN BEAT YOUR UP ON THE INTERNET

autism.

>>16696351
>>makes a claim
Nothing about the trails posted cannot be handled by pretty much any motorcycle. Especially a naked. If you think thats actual offroading you're retarded.

>>keeps making excuses and posting gym pics trying to pretend he's big
bigger than you little guy :^)

>>16696309
ugh
though i live in tx so cold weather isn't really much of a problem

my impression of carbs are "if your bike won't start, or it starts and then dies, take your carb apart and unclog the jets" - are they any more complicated than that?

(my impression of fuel injection is "if you mess with your exaust a little, you're ok. if you mess with it a lot, either buy a kit to hack your ECU or pay a shop to retune it")

>>16696344
>PATHETIC
I bet you have an under 50 inch chest as well

>>16696349
Those 919s are pretty cool little naked cruisers.

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>People unironically think a motorcycle isn't highway capable if it's not a 500-600cc

>>16696348
Stock one had a weird engagement and wasn't particularly powerful. It didn't have air in the lines or leak though. Just not a super high quality part.
>ratio is probably completely different
That's the point. I wanted something with more mechanical advantage and more importantly didn't have a huge dead zone like the stock F4i master. I got it.

>>16696356
>take faired sportbike out to get fucked up offroad with a new set of tires just to prove point to autist that bought a stupid bike on the internet.
>Have a perfectly good dual sport at home

Literally why would anyone do this?

>>16696352
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

>>16696361
wow bruh i pick stuff up and put it down all week too. i must be fucking pro at riding because i can pick something up that isnt analogous to a bike.
fuck i even carry shit up ladders

>>16696378
capable vs comfortable

>>16696376
I bet you've never touched a barbell in your life :^)

>>16696380
Sounds like your stock m/c needed a rebuild

>>16696349
Thanks for the blog update

>>16696383
thanks champ, i lost that pasta a long time ago

>>16696344
why are you so set on proving something that literally no one cares about?

>>16696384
No one is talking about skill here retard.

The tripfag made the claim that what I'm saying about adventure bikes being pigfat is because I'm a manlet.

Clearly I would be the most qualified here to manhandle a downed fuckhuge adventure bike. Thus he is fucking wrong, and stupid, like you.

>>16696373
EFI is self adjusting to some extent as long as you leave the sensors and shit in everything. It's also very very unlikely to fail and also more convenient on a daily basis. So you will pretty much never have to do anything with it unless you do some major mods to your intake or exhaust.

Carbs are finnicky and less consistent. It's highly likely you will need to change jets and needles if you change anything on the bike. They also require cleaning and adjusting far more often just as basic maintenance.

>>16696381
But it wouldn't get fucked because it's easy offroad, remember? Or maybe you're just not a good enough rider, you're worried you'll crash even on easy offroad stuff?

>>16696385
K ;^)

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>>16696395
>why are you so set on proving something that literally no one cares about?
I enjoy watching as dyel jelly autists grasp for straws over and over as they get pummeled back in their little hole.

>>16696378
traffic AVERAGES 80 mph on the highway where I live. if youre in the passing lane (thats the far left lane for you fucktards who like to go the same speed of traffic right of you) youve got people crawling all over your bumper at 80. if your bike can only go 85 wfo in sixth its not really fast enough here

>>16696387
I don't think so. It wasn't leaking or anything. It just didn't feel right to me. I read the same things from other owners of the same bike.
What makes you think a part from a different bike can't work better than the one that came with this bike?

>>16696397
skill is involved at all parts of riding, including righting napping bikes.
thats why 120lb women can right 800lb harleys
i bet you crossfit too

>>16696381
You are literally proving his point.

>>16696399
>17" wheels
>low hanging fairing
?buying tires and having them changed exclusively to prove you wrong

Literally why would anyone do this?

You bought a stupid bike and you take it on easy trails that someone could take on a sportbike. You then claim this to be "offroading".

You are wrong and your bike is stupid. I'm sorry this assblasts you so.

>>16696403
>dat cup of semen
ahh i get it now.

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>>16696403

>>16696373
>are they any more complicated than that?
Not really.
if a bike is cold and wont start you give it more choke
If it starts and wont stay running without the choke or dies when you give it throttle, then clean your carbs.

They are pretty bullet proof and hassle free if you dont let the bike sit for months on end with the carbs full of gas.

>>16696407
>can literally deadlift the weight of the bike
>HURR YOUR NOT SKILLED ENOUGH TO PICK IT UP

really?

>>16696397
>most capable
My sides couldn't possibly fly any higher

This scrawny nigga is hilarious! But without question he's gonna dispute this because he's an insecure dudebro.

What do you ride chad?

>>16696378
>highway

Depends, is the highway some backwater state highway where tractors and small town cops lurk? then yes
Interstates or in the city, fuck no. Have fun being at WOT all the time just to keep up.

>>16696404
Do you live in one of those northeast states where no one gives a shit about road rules

>>16696417
yes.
a bike is not a nice centered weight like the bar at a gym. ive seen people who can deadlift 600lbs fuck themselves up because theyre too retarded to lift awkward objects

>>16696408
Wrong.

it is retarded to take a sportbike offroad, just like it's a retarded to take a faux offroad adventure bike offroad. hence why he doesnt actually take his bike offroad and just putters around on trails.

Why would I fit different tires, take my bike out there and risk dropping it on trails to prove that he is an idiot. That's a complete waste of time and energy.

>>16696427
south east

I used to live in the north east

cops were every 10 miles on the highway, if I rode there like I do here id very quickly have a suspended license due to speeding tickets

>>16696418
>less capable beta male upset at my superior capabilities

Don't be upset.

>What do you ride chad?
Stretched Ninja 300.

>>16696434
But that's the point, he's doing it, you aren't, therefore he is right unless you can prove otherwise. And I'm not seeing any proof.

>>16696432
>can literally lift 500lbs in a deadlift
>somehow would be incapable of lifting a fraction of that through a stabilized second order lever

okay.

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>>16696443

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>>16696427
>no one gives a shit about road rules
what rules?

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Holy shit what's the cause of all this weaponized autism?

>>16696450
>But that's the point, he's doing it, you aren't
irrelevant

> therefore he is right unless you can prove otherwise.
That's not the way it works retard.

But here, have a look at some sportbikes doing """offroad""" just as bad as the bullshit that tripfag is claiming can only be done with his poser bike:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74QNUlKI5AU

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was riding today and this light was blinking what is it? pulled over and turned the bike off then turned back on and rode off and the light didn't comeback on after 2 hours of more riding no idea what it is.

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>>16696411
I think the only one assblasted here is you, or you'd back up tour claim by coming to ride with me.

>Implying 17" wheels and low ground clearance aren't some of the exact reasons a sportbike is no good even for these trails
Looks like you're starting to get it. Proud of you anon.

>>16696443
Not bad for a female on hormones on guess

>>16696457
last time I went to canuckistan tons of signs "3 tickets over 120 km/h lose your license"

everyone drives 80 mph, zero fucks given

>>16696454
>I don't understand physics
Ftfy

>>16696465
https://youtu.be/vCrawCrytS4

>>16696468
fault indicator
some sensor got unhappy, just keep an eye on it

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All this argument about adv bikes being useless...

If I use my bike 80% on the road but want to go offroad sometimes and explore trails and shit, be able to cross a river and so on, Should I buy a dirt bike and sacrifice the confort and road performance that the ADV bike gives me? Or should I buy a full road bike and never get offroad at all?

Why is it so hard for people to understand this?

An ADV bike is like a duck.
A duck can run.
A duck can swim.
A duck can fly.
Of course a cheetah is fuster running.
Of course a shark swims better.
Of course an eagle flies better.
But the duck can do everything.

>>16696471
>I think the only one assblasted here is you
Incorrect, you're the one that got butthurt when I pointed out that you and your """offroad""" bike aren't doing any sort of difficult offroading by rolling around on trails.

>or you'd back up tour claim by coming to ride with me.
Again, this is fucking retarded, I ahve a dual sport. Literally why would I spend the time and energy to take my sportbike offroading to prove something to some retard with a poser bike on the internet?

>>Implying 17" wheels and low ground clearance aren't some of the exact reasons a sportbike is no good even for these trails

And yet you could still take a sportbike out into terrain like what you've posted.

You have not demonstrated any """advanced offroad capabilities""" that your bike has that cannot be accomplished in a regular old street bike.

You bought a poser bike and you are a poser. I'm sorry this makes you so upset.

>>16696464
online conversations about "fitness" or martial arts never end well desu

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Was practicing figure 8's today in the parking lot for about 2 hours. Scraped my boot for the first time a few times and even hit my peg once or twice unintentionally. I never went much over 20mph, yet I had more fun than I do going on a ride through the country.

>>16696490
>posts video of professionals tearing up some bikes
>implying that's the same thing this tripfaggot is doing on his bike by rolling around on hardpack trails.

You're an idiot.

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>>16696351
dude it's WR250 / R6 guy, he's like the worst poster I've ever seen.

>>16696495
I've taken my cruiser on some fairly shit terrain before. It's obviously both idea, but can be done. Easy to do epic fishtails as well

>>16696484
You clearly don't understand physics.

Lifting an equal mass via a stabilized second order lever is always going to be easier than deadlifting that same mass unstabilized.

Bitch please, physics was my major. Beast mode and a fucking genius. You can't touch me.

>>16696507
wr250 is a shit tier bike for highway use

>>16696495
This, not too mention comfy as fuck. I didn't understand adventure bikes when I was a kid, I was just like chad. But now I've ridden some and gotten more experience on different kinds of bikes I get it, it'll never fully replace a sport bike or dirtbike, but you can't ride two bikes at once.

>>16696170
That based transverse mount

>>16696527
It is highway capable. But it is a shit highway bike.

No one would argue that.

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>>16696527
I don't care about what bikes he rides I care about how awful of a poster he is.

>>16696523
>I said it on 4chan
Must be true

>>16696540
Knowing that you care is all that matters to me. :^)

>>16696523
bragging to random strangers on the internet reeks of low self confidence

no one cares

>>16696495
You buy a supermoto

You don't get an adventure bike unless you want a touring bike that also an go offroad.

If it's just commuting+ offroad then you get a supermoto

>>16696502
mirin focus, I get bored as hell doing that
(and I guess my riding probably reflects that fact)

>>16696551
Or maybe I'm just trolling the shit out of you because it's so easy to do. And you keep responding because you're so fucking easy to bait. :^)

>>16696557
>damage control

>>16696557
or maybe youre just gay

that response thing cuts both ways

>>16696542
it is.

Fact remains. """Adventure bikes""" are poser bullshit. They are touring bikes with an offroad appearance package.

Anyone that's serious about offroading buys a lighter more capable bike.

If all you want to do is roll around on hardpack dirt trails, you don't need an """adventure bike""" you could do that on pretty much any bike.

>>16696569
can you cite your sources for this """"""""fact"""""""?
i suppose you take your fwd civic up in the mountains too dont you? i mean its not like you need a truck or suv to do that, its all hardpack after all.

>>16696560
>>16696568
I'm responding because I enjoy how butthurt you get. I'm going to respond anyway until I get bored posting today. You HAVE to keep responding to my posts because you are so fucking easy to bait.

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I have a little pitbike that tops out at 45mph

Should I never take it out of my neighborhood because sometimes there's cars that go 55mph?

Don't take the underpowered honda rebel on the freeway and you should be fine.

The amount of fail itt is reaching critical mass.

>>16696577
>>16696577
proof has been posted.

Sport bikes can roll around successfully on dirt trails and even be jumped:
https://youtu.be/74QNUlKI5AU

If this is all you're going to do with your """adventure bike""" you could do it on pretty much any bike.

Hence """adventure bikes""" are useless.

If you want to get into anything more gnarly than that offroading, you would just buy a real offroad capable bike.

So it went from harley sperging to adv sperging.

At least my conversation about the Indian company was enjoyable earlier

>>16696579

that is exactly the sort of thing someone says when they get buttblasted and try to cover it up.

>damage control intensifies

>First group ride ever
>Everyone is an immense squid
>Didn't see a single other person wearing anything more than a helmet
>Half of them in shorts
>Wore a jacket, riding shoes and gloves and felt extremely out of place the entire time
Wew

>>16696577
>riding 600lb adventure bike up hill
>don't make it, a common occurrence when offroading
>suddenly trying to control 600lbs deadweight that wants to roll backwards
>slip and roll down the hill with bike
>600lb bike lands on your head and it pops like a grape.

Yea, naw. Doing any sort of serious offroading on those bike is not smart.

>>16696591
This is exactly what someone says when they are assblasted and want to divert attention from their blasted ass.

>>16696592
Dont be a sheeple and follow the herd.

You wear your seat belt not because you expect to be in an accident but in case you get in an accident herp derp.

>>16696589
what im seeing here are two ill suspended bikes modified to have ergos approaching that of adv bikes, armor like adv bikes and doing the same thing adv bikes do with far less comfort and ease

>>16696577
>i suppose you take your fwd civic up in the mountains too dont you?
not him, but I used to take a fwd sienna up dirt roads pretty routinely. worked fine.

>the one and only swagger wagon

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are 250s cheap as fuck to maintain? Thinking of getting into bikes, and I have the cash for one, the gear, and insurance/gas, but not with too much left over.

Let's say I buy one that's at ~10k miles, and only put a few thousand on it a year, what's maintenance gonna cost?

>>16696615
> modified to have ergos approaching that of adv bikes, armor like adv bikes
They're called stunt bike mods.

>>16696589

As someone who's extensively toured Aus and ridden sports bikes off road and on a lot of unsealed and gnarly roads you're absolutely full of shit.

They are not built for it, fairings stress and fracture, tons of shit comes loose, brackets bend and if you actually did it for any extended period of time you'd absolutely trash the bike.

Some faggot tooling around in a youtube video for a few minutes is fucking nothing.

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>>16696600
you mean like sinking in this sandy shit?
>being retarded enough to fall down a hill under your bike

>>16696622
so its no longer a sportbike then. its a hacked up stuntbike. try again m8

>>16696636
now post the clips of you struggling for several minutes to turn it around

>>16696625
ausfailia or austria?

>>16696621
WR250
>oil change every 3000-3500miles. 1.4 liters of oil
>check spoke tension and brake fluid at every oil change.
>change brake fluid and bleed every other oil change
>change fork oil/seals every 3-4 oil changes, regrease swingarm pivot and suspension linkage bearings at the same time.
>valve check every 26,000 miles
>replace tires and brake pads as needed.
>regrease wheel bearings every time you change tires

That's pretty much it for the life of the bike/motor.

Not all bikes are this awesome however.

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>>16696642
30 seconds?

>>16696589
>You can do the same thing on a sportbike but with much more difficulty and less confort
>Hence """adventure bikes""" are useless.

>>16696590
IKR, lemme post some of my muscles on a bike thred because im an insecure fggt

>>16696647
>weak ass motor tops out at 85 mph when its modded

great except you cant ride it on the highway anywhere traffic doesnt move at geriatric speeds

>>16696636
>things will never go sideways while riding offroad

This is how I know you don't have any experience actually riding offroad. And no you rolling around on dirt and getting stuck on a shallow incline hill is not actually offroading.

>>16696647
>>check spoke tension and brake fluid at every oil change.
>>change brake fluid and bleed every other oil change
>>change fork oil/seals every 3-4 oil changes, regrease swingarm pivot and suspension linkage bearings at the same time.
Either you're way over-doing it or it's a shit bike with seal issues

>>16696641
a stunted sportbike is still a sportbike anon.

>>16696659
Tops out at ~95 and cruises all day at 75-80mph stock. Modded and ungeared they'll do 100+

Mines geared and modded so it tops out at around 95mph. Still cruises all day at 75-80.

I can keep up with traffic in the fast lane and still have extra for passing in CA.

>>16696344
This post reminds me of that retard on here that told me to deadlift to alleviate back pain from riding my sport bike (I pulled 585 earlier this year)

>>16696661
I like to maintain my bikes well. I also enjoy working on them.

Checking brake fluid levels and spoke tension is like a 5 minute job. And that's if you're taking your sweet ass time.

>>16696676
yeah no

just cause your speedo reads 95 doesnt mean its actually going that fast

enjoy your delusion

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>>16696660
yeah i suppose 20 years of riding primarily offroad doesn't count for shit.
its a goddamn given things can go sideways. a 200lb bike will pop your head just like a 600lb bike if you get under it.

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>>16696660
this

Get a trials bike

if your bike cant climb a sheer rock face its not a reel offroad bike and ur a poser.

>>16696680
But deadlifting can alleviate back pain.

Strong spinal erectors don't get sore as easily from constant stress.

This is of course assuming you have good form.

>>16696236
i wish i could do woolies on HWNDU

>Dad had BMW R90/6 when much younger
>Had it for years, also bought bashed-up one to repair
>Sold the original one some years back
>Reaching retirement soon, should have time to build the second
>Just drew one for his 60th birthday
Feels good

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>>16696688
It's called GPS. Look it up.

anyone in NYC know of an insurance company that isn't one of the big names?

i got quoted $9xx/yr. I feel like I can get something cheaper.

Any ideas?

Relevant info

24/M
I have a Bachelor's Degree

>>16696689
If you cant shove a 200 lb bike off you with one arm get a new hobby snowflake.

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>>16696680
The answer is good motorcycle posture and dynamic spinal stretches.

>>16696705
maximum overkek on your ass rapingly high rates

my bike when I lived in WNY was 77 $/yr

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>>16696589

>>16696705
big name companies don't all use the same prices. Check geico and progressive

>>16696708
ok ill throw my xr down a hill after you, you try to strong arm it off yourself as you fall/tumble.
hell ill be nice ill throw my klx125 down instead to give you a fighting chance to shove a tumbling bike around while you tumble too.
i pick my dr650 up onto the hitch carrier since the ramp doesn't fit in my driveway, it doesn't mean i can catch 200lbs of shit flying at me if im not ready and braced for it.
if you think you can, you're full of shit/ delusional

>>16696718
well, the difference is west new york and NYC.

there is a guaranteed $400 spike in average prices just for living in this shithole.

>>16696723
I'll try it out.

>>16696705
Having a degree is not relevant

>>16696705
Depends on what bike and what kind of coverage you're getting.

>>16696705
Look up an insurance broker my dude, they'll get the best price you'll be able to get.

>>16696731
Yep, keep in mind we have some of the highest rates of bike theft in the country, so if you add comprehensive your rates go up dramatically enough its cheaper to just get a garage and liability.

Try Geico, I'm paying $50/mo for liability on two bikes (09 KLX250SF and 99 SV650). Stack on all the discounts (multi-car/multi-policy, MSF, etc).

>>16696729
I sure as shit would rather had a 250lb bike tumbling down a hill at me than a 600lb bike.

>>16696729
none of those bikes is close to 200 lbs. the klx is 250

nice try though

>>16696736
>insurance broker
>paying broker fees instead of finding the lowest price yourself.

>>16696749
You don't pay broker fees, they get a percentage of the total plan.

The best quote I got was 150 for my shadow, the broker got me a years insurance for 70

>>16696748
lrn2read
Kawasaki says the KLX125 weighs 176 pounds dry, has a 49-inch wheelbase, a 30.5-inch seat height, and a 1.7-gallon fuel tank

>>16696747
same, but id rather take a big adv bike on a trip across multiple states than a 250lb dirtbike.
its all compromise

>>16696746
i don't have to be an employee of the gov't to be insured with geico?

givens accepted by defendant and plaintiff:
>sport bikes do roads gud
>supermotos do dirt gud

plaintiff's claim:
>adventure bikes are useless

plaintiff's support of claim:
>sport bikes can do everything adventure bikes can do w.r.t. off-road riding

there are at least two approaches to disproving the plaintiff's claim:
>show that the support is false
>show that the claim is false even if the support is true

so far, only the first approach has been tried in this thread
>look, my adventure bike can do this offroad! (webm)
>but my sport bike can do that offroad! (...nothing lol)
>but some adventure bikecan do this crazier thing offroad! (youtube)
>but some sport bike can do that offroad too! (youtube)
>that's not a sport bike!
>no true scotsman!
etc

let's try the second approach:
>prove that adventure bikes are not useless GIVEN that sport bikes can do everything adventure bikes can do w.r.t. off-road riding

the last part is key - it allows us to leverage things adventure bikes is able to do that the sport bike cannot, OUTSIDE of an off-road context. this seems simple - adventure bikes have more comfortable posture, more protection from wind, and much more cargo capability.

"but wait!" the plaintiff says, "touring bikes can do all of those things! Just like you should get a supermoto instead of an adventure bike to do things offroad that the sport bike can't, you should get a touring bike instead of an adventure bike to do things on roads that the sport bike can't!"

but the intersection of these abilities is unique. no sport bike can do everything an adventure bike can do, and no touring bike can do everything an adventure bike can do, and no supermoto can do everything an adventure bike can do.

which brings us back to >>16696495, which already had the answer

but then again you were just trolling

>>16696766
No Geico is a private company

>>16696693
It isn't even "pain" that I get, it's more of a pump and its fucking brutal sometimes

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>>16696600
I mean this is only 470 lb of dead weight but it wasn't that bad to slide down to level ground. If it was worse I would have just dumped and dragged it like >>16696636 >>16696651

>>16696774
that's something that can happen to lifters. especially if you're on the magic beans, or fat.

some people find that taurine helps.

>>16696769
>sportbikes do roads gud
Yeah but not if you expect comfort. They do tracks gud.
>supermotos do dirt gud
lelno.

>>16696761
If the prospect of any sort of offroading occurs on my cross country trip I'd much rather have the more reasonable compromise of a 300-400lb bike that can eat highway miles and still have reasonable suspension and mass for offroading.

DRZ400
WR250R
KLR650
DR650
690 EnduroR
F650GS
CB500X
etc.

Choose one based on the fraction of dirt to road riding. A bike bigger/heavier than these just don't make sense for any sort of offroading beyond easy hardpack trails.

>>16696761
>http://rustracing.com/kawasaki-klx125.html

Weight: 112.8kg (tested, fuelled)

herp derp manufacturers never lie about bike weights

>>16696769
>but some adventure bikecan do this crazier thing offroad! (youtube)
I posted that video and I would like the record to show that that was posted in response to the off road sportbike video. I didn't post Youtube until the precedent was set.

>>16696795
A wr250 is too fucking slow for anywhere people drive over 70 mph on the highway.

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>>16696800
herp derp, not eurocuck 125 but a literal kids bike

>>16696808
I ride one almost daily to work on CA freeways where people regularly do 70mph+.

And I ride passing traffic in the fast lane going 80mph.

>>16696823
>Califailia

Ive narrowed down where your delusion emanates from.

>>16696795
drz, wr arent much fun for multistate rides esp if you need to spend time on freeways tryign to do 80 with a full load of gear.
the dr650 is a good cheap compromise bike
klr650 is a fat pig with no power but its simple and fairly tough and offers more wind protection than the dr650
690 enduro is stupidly uncomfortable for long distance but is probably the most capable of the bunch, has known reliability issues too.
bmw is dead if dash is damaged, that alone is enough to put me off it.
cb500x basically a little bit lighter slower and less supported vstrom

The amount of assmad in this thread over adv vs drtsqwrt vs sportbike is amazing. I know I'm shit at offroad regardless of bike type; CC can tell you that. But dammit I'll give it a shot either way.

Also, someone posted their Ducutty sportbike with TKC80s a while back. It was God damn sexy.

>>16696026
They are just below what you would expect from Japanese bikes. I believe that by 2016 they sorted out all the gremlins. I expect the 675 to drop in price once the 765 comes out.

Also that is a race bike. A novice has no business riding something that accelerates and stops like a Lamborghini. Buy a cheap beater you get good on.

>>16696842
its massive fail that bikes have to be redisgned due to squirrel squeezing euronig pollution laws

>>16696680
Strong deadlifters usually have tight spine errectors. That may be the cause of your pain. Also don't ride balls on tank if you are doing that.

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>>16696839
>tfw no TKC equipped Hyper

>>16696829
How fast do you think a WRR is?
Freeway speeds are not an issue for them. They're not exactly comfortable for it but they don't have any issue doing it.

Have you ever ridden one?

>>16696833
>drz, wr arent much fun for multistate rides esp if you need to spend time on freeways tryign to do 80 with a full load of gear.
Granted you hard bag one up and load it down with gear, you're probably looking at a 65-70mph cruise speed, but still not that big of an issue. You're not exactly going to be cannonballing in a multistate trip. And you'll probably want to just cruise and take in the scenery anyway.

Behind the 690 enduro they're the most offroad capable bikes on the list. Again, depends on the fraction of dirt youre riding on and the compromise you're willing to make.

>690 enduro is stupidly uncomfortable for long distance but is probably the most capable of the bunch, has known reliability issues too.
In stock form yes, no one should try to adventure on essentially an overpowered heavy dirtbike. But the same is true for a DRZ or WRR. People mod them to be appropriate for adventure riding and when modded they're probably as good as it gets. Just a pity that its a eurobong shitheap.

>cb500x basically a little bit lighter slower and less supported vstrom
Lighter being the operative word.
Also notasuzuki

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>>16696795
What if I want to turn muh Indian into something like this?

>>16696862
Why do Ducuttys look so good with TKC80s?

>>16696867
It'll eventually break and by that time Polaris would have cancelled the Indian brand and you wouldn't be able to get spare parts so you'd have to sell it for scrap.

>>16696854
Same thing with CAFE or whatever it is making trucks so huge. Stupid regulations just result in work arounds that are worse than what we had before. I hope we won't see the death of the 600cc bike is this decade. Honda already dropped the cbr600rr.

>>16696867
itll still be pigfat n slow

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>>16696862
>>16696877
>not a honda with TKC80's

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>>16696867
my bad, didnt know this was for ants

>>16696890
I'm not a cruisercuck at all but got daym do the Chiefs look sweet, especially when customed out like that.

>>16696888
flattrackers are no slouches m8
the racers are fucking nuts too

>>16696895
>>16696890
Sorry, not the Chief, the Scout.

Chief looks like same old same old cruisercuck shit.

>>16696890
Why the fuck is there a door mat bolted to the side of the engine?

>>16696888
>every bike must be as fast as a sport bike

I bet youre great at parties.

>>16696898
yeah purpose built flat trackers

not some overweight cruiser dressed up to look like one

>>16696903
Those bikes are totally custom, probably put that shit there to protect something they were trying out there.

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>>16696898
I was out riding my WR and came across some dudes practicing, was pretty sweet.

>>16696881
Luckily indian is doing great and has a bright future ahead of itself

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>>16696910
Oh you mean like this?

>>16696902
Chief is sexual m8. Just not with all the gay fringe on it

>>16696903
It's carpet, they wrap it around the side of the bike and their inside turn foot. It's so the bike and their foot doesn't stick to the ground.

When they do indoor flattrack the coat the ground in soda syrup to increase traction. The floor is really sticky.

>>16696916
>flat tracking practice with steel poles as encouragement not to fuck up
not sure if smart move

>>16696903
roost/ boot guard maybe?
you do get your foot out a ways on those

>>16696910
Show me on the doll where the cruiser touched you billy

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>>16696889
>>16696877
Everything looks better with knobbies

>>16696922
youre clearly upset

off yourself asap

>>16696569
In your opinion, is an adventure bike any better on the road than a dual sport?

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>>16696941

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>>16696952
Aw did the cruiser hurt your feelings again, you and that buttmad harley bro need to go hate fuck your feelings out.

>>16696958
Yes, they can be. Lightweight adventure bikes like the F650GS and CB500X are much more road oriented than any DS but still light enough to be somewhat reasonable offroad. Just far from ideal.

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I've looked at a few indoor flat track events before and it's just fucking awful in terms of oval racing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb2pj76HqKk

this is what you want, get some speedway up in ya.

>>16696968
>buttmad hurley bro
Who?

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how was your day /dbt/ ? Did you rode your qt bike today ?

>>16696968
sounds like you speak from first hand experience

>>16696950
I work with a guy who utterly loves the vision. He thinks is God's gifts to bikes.
Just showes beauty is in the eye of beholder.
Looks to me like a ufo had a rape baby with a scooter

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>>16696978
He looks alot like this

>>16696979
No.

Its in the shop getting the carbs rejetted.

Feels bad man.

>>16696998
oh fuck, i hope it'll be ok soon and you wont pay too much, do you have any idea about how much it'll cost ?

>>16696992
You mean to tell me fringe saddle bags and black leather doesnt give you an erection?

>>16696979
It was meh. At work so no riding :/
Had my riding buddies send pics of their trip to ride the ferry though.
Gave me the sads. But I like money

>>16696995
keckled

>>16696998
>not rejetting your own carbs
>letting another man have his way with your bikes nether regions

full cuck.

>>16697007
Sorry, I'm not a homo.

>>16697009
yeah at least you did something productive, so it's alright

>>16697005
I was told about 100 a carb so 200 + after that and the dyno time?

>>16697016
Yeah me neither bro.

>>16697023
Black leather fringe and tassels are a staple of the homosexual S&M community.

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>>16697032

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>>16697019
Not really. It's sunday. We kinda just chillax and do nothing. Just sucks being stuck here during nice weather.

But I'll make up for it after I get home

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>>16696979
Rode her hard for about two hours. Still in break-in period so I haven't pushed it over 5000rpms.

>>16697073
i did the same to your mother last night

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>>16697082

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>>16697073
>He rides a Moto cuckzzi

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>>16697102
do newfag scum really thinking spouting cuck constantly is funny?

>>16697073
Ayyy another Moto Guzzi anon.

>>16697102
They are ackshully p based

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>>16697132
>Buys cuckold bike
>Gets mad when called out

>>16697148
not the guy who posted the pic

obv the cancerous newfag is a trump supporter...

>>16696973
Indoor flattrack is more along the lines of heavybike tight course supermoto.

>>16697143
How many motogp races have they won?

>>16697143
The old ones are, anything after they got bought by Piaggio is pretty meh intentionally so it can't compete with Aprilia.

>>16697073
That engine is rotating about the wrong axis for proper motorcycle stability.

>>16697166
>racing
>somehow relevant to every type of motorcycle and every type of riding.

>>16697169
That's part of the fun anon, don't you want your bike to fall over when you rev it?

>>16697173
pretty much

racing improves the breed

>>16697176
N-no...

>>16697173
Thats what i tought, there not pretty good or even fast.

>>16697178
How many Formula 1 championships has Koenigsegg, Bugatti, or Porsche won?

>>16697166
Guzzi won so many GPs pre 1960 they're probably still in the top 5 as far as all time GP wins go.

>>16697182
>good
meaningless metric without context
>fast
not all motorcycles are meant to be fast. You want a fast bike you buy a supersport/superbike class bike. Both of which are relatively niche compared to the motorcycle industry as a whole.

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>>16697198
N
>>16697198
E
>>16697198
U
>>16697198
!
>>16697198