[D u h B u h T u h] duh buh tuh thread

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1st for horsepower

>want to ride with just a helmet because putting on gear takes a while
>know that the wind will just push my shirt into my beer gut and perky man tits
just FUCK me up desu

>>16684604
>putting on gear takes a while
What? How long it takes to put on a jacket?

why is the katana a meme

>>16684611
looks like turbo hot disco trash

>>16684610
shh it's an excuse for me to squid

>>16684604
>being a disgusting fatbody
You best unfuck yourself Pvt Pile

>>16684604
lose weight and getted tatted up to live up the the biker squid expectationd

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>>16684611
i like the katana.

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Buying this today to add to my collection of weekend fun bikes.

>This triggers the /dbt/

>>16684627
looks like a girls bike.

>>16684627
looks nice except the flat ass seat

>>16684623
Black>grey

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>>16684627
And how much are you paying for that turd, exactly?

>>16684601
>entire picture only contains 2.5 horsepower
amazing

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>>16684611
>i dont like pop up headlights

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>>16684582
had stuff for to weeks of camping on the back of the bike

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>>16684640
they should reboot the katana and skip the bubble fairings

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>>16684547
Only rednecks in america have trucks, hope you realize this.
I literally don't remember having ever seen a truck in real life in all my life.
>>16684556
Again, you glossed over the biggest chunk of history.
>>16684564
>If you know you're never going to go there, the odds that you know the things like that is very little
That's not how history or education all around work.
>>16684567
I'm hating on no one, just stating facts and asking a simple question.
Have you never seen a picture of the Amazonia?
>>16684567
>sorry dont speak Italian, might have overseen a sign
Rule of thumb in the vast majority of places is that the centre is closed except for the people who live there.

>>16684648
that expression means how much did it cost

>>16684601
Your editing needs work

>>16684639
Rude
>>16684664
Its the phone. The pic was burnt as hell.

>>16684660
>Only rednecks in america have trucks, hope you realize this.
>I literally don't remember having ever seen a truck in real life in all my life.

im guessing you live some where that you dont have to deal with the winter.

>>16684657
But I want flat sides

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>>16684660
>I literally don't remember having ever seen a truck in real life in all my life
Of course not, you are a yuropoor

>>16684615
Squidding is p fun
>No helmet laws in Colorado
>Sweating intensifies

>>16684627
Have fun

>>16684660
OP should have named this 'assblasted italians edition'

>>16684660
>That's not how history or education all around work
I highly doubt you know anything about the 3/5s compromise.

The point is, and or most recent election proves this, most people only give a shit about history and culture that they live in.

is paleo a meme

>>16684699
Everything is a meme

>>16684699
The diet? Probably. The palio is tight though, it's super fun.

>>16684699
No it realy did happen, between the pliocene and mesolithic.

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>>16684661
oh okay, well we had most of stuff already at home, like the sideboxes and the duffel bags. The bike is actually my moms bike i borrowed from her for the trip an she allready had the tank bag.
I did built the luggage rack out of some metal plates myself. Did the plastic coating of ot at the university for free so I only really needed two new brackets for the sideboxes and that was about 25€ each from ebay.
More expensive was tent, sleeping bag, sleeping mat, gas cooker, camping pots etc.

>>16684611
because worst girl liked it

>>16684722
Dat caprese salad tho

>>16684725
Seconded.

>>16684722
>opinel

U a good negro

>>16684724
(You)

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>>16684681
I live in the Alps in a place full of farms.
>>16684685
Still better than being a tripfag.
>>16684689
Are you the same guy from before who couldn't manage to unlock the handlebars?
>>16684692
>most people are ignorant
Are you, or do you want to be, most people?

I may be an idealist but for me it's unbelievable that someone intelligent enough to use a computer and post on 4chan is surprised by seeing an old european village.

>>16684601
>1st for horsepower
1 horsepower
ftfy

>>16684743
Negro, I've been all over yurop, including Italy. That being said, I can 100% believe some people have never been.

>>16684724
>worst girl
>not wanting a tallish, tight-bodied-yet-well-endowed girl
>not wanting a girl who ATGATT in the best way possible
>not wanting twin tails which means bedroom handlebars
Do you even.

>>16684743
>Are you the same guy from before who couldn't manage to unlock the handlebars?
No but that sounds hilarious.

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>>16684743
>implying you have to be intelligent to post on 4chan
Wow that captcha is a real toughy.

>>16684724
Nah, ur a daft cunt, Rin best girl except maybe Raimu.

>>16684754
Raimu is best girl

>>16684751
>>16684761
>>16684763
>>16684722
>All these tripfags
>The four horsemen of the apocalypse

>>16684763
>except maybe Raimu
Not gonna lie, I'd eat that Christmas Cake for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

>>16684774
>>16684770
I wanna get a Raimu body pillow and hang it in my garage.

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>>16684660
>Rule of thumb in the vast majority of places is that the centre is closed except for the people who live there.
wouldn't have known that, was searching for a petrol station and
>pic related
my satnav told me to go there

>>16684784
You got the cash and you're in California. Do it and post it.

>>16684784
What pose would she even have ?

>>16684772
sensible_chuckle.gif

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>>16684772
>Calling a namefag a tripfag
wew lad

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>>16684751
That's not what I said, in fact I said the exact opposite. I have a rough idea of what Amazonia looks like even thought I've never been there.
>>16684757
He still couldn't manage after we told him how to do it.
>>16684761
And yet you failed to pass the tripfag exam.
>>16684790
Well maybe it wasn't, there should be a sign.

>>16684790
>Rule of thumb in the vast majority of places is that the centre is closed except for the people who live there.
>Ich spreche kein Italienisch

Problem solved

>>16684817
guess my 4chan lingo isn't up to your standards

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>>16684804
One of these, you can ride pillion on her Kawa

>tfw no rotary baiku
Do you guys think there will ever be another?

>>16684831
No. And if it does exist it will be stupid

>Really want a v-twin liter sportbike
Who makes the best one under 6k? I'm sure the Panigale 959 is the best but way out of my budget. I'm thinking RC51 or RSV Mille, kind of leaning towards the mille.

>>16684831
No..?
Rotary engines died for a reason.

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>>16684831
Nortan made one for the isle of man but apparently the high strung rotary produced an unholy amount of heat.

>>16684818
>I have a rough idea of what Amazonia looks like even thought I've never been there.
You sound very conceited. That's great that you can imagine it, but not everyone is you.

>>16684845
just get a tuono

>>16684804
Racing tuck on baiku in bikini

>>16684852
>FUCHS
>0

I can respect that

I don't frequent bike threads often, and so I'm admittedly ignorant compared most of you, but I want a simple, reliable, reasonably powered, affordable cruiser. Just looking for something the wife and I can take on trips around back roads and around town for fun, with no fuss. Side note: don't care about mods, loud exhaust, going fast, etc.

Was thinking a used honda rebel... did I miss the mark?

>>16684829
>>16684864
I'd buy that for a dollar

>>16684911
Unless your wife is Rosy Palm, you should get something bigger.

>>16684911
some kind of jap cruiser around the 750cc range.

will have all what you covered and be cheap.

shadow or a rebel, such and such.

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>>16684821
Ignorance of the law is not an excuse, if they want to fine you, they will.
Especially if you're a kraut.
Italians love to fuck over foreigners.
>>16684861
>somehow common knowledge is being conceited
Next you're telling me you can't read Greek and Latin.
Seriously though, you should concern more with the state of american education instead of being this touchy.

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>>16684845
TL1000S
SV1000
RC51

>>16684845
Tuono, easily
Futura if you want vaporware

>>16684923
>>16684925
Thank you. We ride around on the weekend 2up on my scooter, so even a 250/300 would seem like a huge upgrade. I'm guessing something 750'ish would take care of the "i got a 250 but i wish i had bought something bigger from the beginning." situation?

>>16684960
never listen to tripfags

>>16684976
600cc performance bikes can be a much for some new people but cruisers in the 750 area are far from something to fear. you will be fine.

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>>16684976
750 v2 here
Engine is top comfy
If you want sporty it can be geared lower
Mad torks
Decent fuel economy
Quiet if you need to
Loud if you want to

>Bought bike bike three weeks ago
>immediately got learners permit
>test was easy, reupped my drivers license at the same time, test also easy
>schedule soonest skills test
>3 weeks out, fml
>yesterday, go in to take it before the mother of all rainstorms hits southern california
>while waiting for the tester to come out I went around the course a few times
>wew lad why to people say this is so hard
>pass it without issue
>M1 coming in mail as we speak.

Why did everyone talk that shit up to be so hard. Even the lady said she was surprised I passed because like less than 1 in 10 people pass it. I don't get it.

>>16684989
Greatly appreciated...

>>16685020
No one says it is hard.....

>have no friends
>know no one that rides a motorcycle
>want p. sweet pictures to put on social media to appear like Im not a basement dweller
>buy a drone

Are drones the new lonely man's friend? Will there ever be a day where we can reliably set a drone to follow us around taking sik vids on our baikus to show people I haven't talked to in years on facebook?

>>16685020
Out here the ladies are cunts and will argue with you why you cant take the test.

>>16685028
Literally everyone that I've talked to has said it was hard, even people on /dbt/. That you cant pass it on certain bikes and you need loads of practice, etc.

>>16685020
>she was surprised I passed because like less than 1 in 10 people pass it

yeah nah. more like 1 out of 50 have trouble.

>>16685031
GoPro strapped to your helmet m8

We're living in the future

>>16685042
if everyone on dbt thinks it is hard then why did 99% of people who have a bike on this thread pass their license first try?

>>16685045
I think the lady at the DMV that administers the test would have a better pulse of how many people pass and fail that some random autist on the internet.

>>16685054
Almost everyone on /dbt/ takes the MSF course.

Only people I've heard talking about the skills test say they cant pass it so they have to take the MSF course.

>>16685042
It's only hard if you've never piloted anything with a clutch before. I could have passed the test the day I took the permit test. That said, a lot of those instructors will try and fail you your first time.

>>16685055

a random autist on the internet that passed his test 1st try with 49 other people. 1 had to retake it and passed

i think you are just stroking your ego now buddy

>>16685060
Except the vast majority of anons who do not live in America?
Daily reminder that even WR managed to pass the much stricter germanistan test first time

I guarantee all the people saying the skills test never even took it and just went to the msf. Or just don't have an M1.

Knowing how to ride with a clutch doesn't make the test easy. Very low sped bike handling is an acquired skill that you don't learn just cruising the streets. You actually have to practice to acquire the skills.

The only people who don't need to practice probably have some sort of dirt riding background where they acquired the skills.

Nobody throws a leg over a motorcycle and instantly knows how to roll a consistent near perfect circle at 5-7mph. If you claim you do you're a fucking liar and nobody believes you.

It's especially hard on sportier bikes with steep rake, bad turning circles, and taller first gears.

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>>16685067
>tfw doing the MSF after riding for years
And they put me on a KLX250 when I was still riding my KLX300.

>>16685070
cool anecdote

>>16685081
>Except the vast majority of anons who do not live in America?
Then they don't take the same test and their opinion is irrelevant.
Mudcountries also have limits on learner bikes so shitskins outside the U.S. are taking their tests on easier bikes.

>>16684998
Cool bike man, thought about about a RS125 before i got hitched. Your setup seems good for the primary rider, but i'd imagine a passenger would get fatigued after a short ride due to high knee positioning and back posture.

>>16685060
Even the Australians have to pass stricter shit than the skills course to get their license?

Maybe Americans are just shit riders in general.

>pretty mum with her small child walking past my driveway right when I started up the engine
>she gets down low, points and says 'look, a MOTORCYCLE'
>could have smiled, waved and invited the toddler to twist the throttle
>instead I just ignored them and rode away

>>16685101
>communist mudcountries
>forced to ride babby bikes
>cant pass tests on real bikes so they ride toys
>pretend they are better riders because they ride shit bikes.

>>16685087
I took two of my friends to the skills test and drove the instructor behind them. Neither of them had ridden before I taught them and they both passed first try on KLX650s after riding on their permits for a few months.

>>16685104
im confused about why you shared this story.

yesterday i did a wheelie for a school bus full of children cause im not a heartless fuck muffin like you.

>>16685107
>drove the instructor behind them

wtf are you talking about? That's not the DMV skills test. You don't drive anywhere.

>>16685104
You could have fucked the mum then and there in front of her child. What a cuck.

>>16685120
In NY it is. It's very similar to the cad road test but you need to bring a licensed motorcyclist with you in a car to drive the instructor and you ride around a town and stop on a side street where the instructor gets out and has you do some figure eights in both directions.

>>16685134
Car road test*

>>16685107
Then dude #1 rekt and broke his leg or something right?

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>>16685098
In short trips it really is not that bad
I've however done a couple of 6h+ trips with a pillion and she was definitely getting tired a lot quicker than i did

The position is not that bad, i find it comfortable even if in a bit on the tall side (about 6'3" if i did the conversion right)
The main problem for the passenger is the convex shape that gets up your buttcrack after a while
Corbin makes a custom seat with more padding and a backredt for the passenger

Also there's a more touring oriented sister bike called the mana, pic related
I only suggest it because it has an auto tranny and you said you have a scooter

What kind of cruiser are you into? Budget?
Might shoot some suggestions

>>16685104
>Not wheeling for the kids
Shame on you

>>16685140
Yep lel. In his defense he'd basically never ridden on know it's before, I warned him but he was riding g as if he was on sticky street tires.

>>16685134
That's way fucking easier than the CA M1 skills test.

Stupid that you have to have a M1 holder with you already though.

In ca you have to ride a course and stay within a set of lines. Anything outside the lines or any foot down fails you. You also fail if you go to fast.

https://youtu.be/2w_s0DNaJSA

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>>16685105
Come on now LAMS laws are no way near as bad as euro laws.
at least on lams you can ride 650's and we even get bikes Americans can't like all the bikes in pic related.

>>16685155
Nah it's pretty much the same. If you put down your foot or touch the rain gutter/grass you fail. You don't have to stay in those lines but you have to do figure eights in both direction back to back with live traffic and have to signal and shoulder check specific places.

>>16685157
>LAMS
Just took a look at the on bike testing.

It's all medium/normal speed manuvering. things you would learn in normal riding.

The CA MC Skills test is all very low speed maneuvering inside of narrow lines, and if you go outside the lines or put a foot down you insta-fail and have to reschedule the test which usually means weeks.

I would prefer the LAMS test as it looks much more applicable to real world riding than this MC Skills test bullshit.

>>16685191
Doing figure 8's with no line constraints is significantly easier than having to do slow circles with line constraints.

I can do fig 8's easily and roll tight circles with no line contraints. But add narrow lines you have to stay within and it adds an entirely new level of difficulty.

Try it, go to your local DMV and try to do the course.

>>16685201
I think not being able to look through the turn and having to watch and stop for traffic is probably equally hard. It's not like the side street we were on was any wider than that circle.

I'm not going to argue about it though, I rode dirt for 12 years before I got my Ninja and then DD'd it the whole summer I got it, I would have passed no problem.

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>>16685194
Isnt the point of a motorcycle license test to get you up to speed as well?
you spend 6 hours or so learning everything about riding before you actually do the test over here.

>>16685211
In NY you walk into the DMV whenever you want and take a 20 question written test, if you get 80% or better you get your permit. Permit lets you ride within 1/4 mile of a licensed rider. Later you bring in a signed form saying you have ridden for 20 hours and they give you a 5 minute road test, if you pass they give you a Hayabusa.

In CA you don't even need to ride near a licensed rider, just can't ride at night or on the highway.

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>>16685224
>5 minute road test, if you pass they give you a Hayabusa.
Murrika

>>16685147
Thank you for the recommendation. The mana looks more comfortable comparatively. Rides we go on typically last between 4-8 hours with a few breaks, so comfort is paramount. No bully side note: I had a few wheely throttle wrecks when I was a teenager so the thought of something that can lift the front end does frighten me.

The mention of automatic is appreciated, but I grew up on a Kawasaki KE175, so gears are no problem. In fact when I bought the scooter I asked where the gear selection was... had no idea CVT transmissions existed: frankly they're horrible.

4-5k is the budget, and im OK with it being used since I'm mechanically inclined if something were to go wrong.

Looked at the Honda Rebel, Shadow, V-Star 650, TU250X

>>16685224
Pretty jelly. Britbong here, Had to take a test to get a 125, then another 3 tests to get a restricted 500, then after 2 years of riding take another 2 tests to get the bike you want.

God bless the nanny state.

>>16685211
The way it works here is:
>go into the DMV
>wait in line for an hour and 45
>receive paperwork for license class change
>fill it out and go back to wait in same line for another hour and 45
>get sent to another window where you pay the $30 something dollar fee
>get sent to another line for a window for 30 minutes
>scan thumb and take a new photo
>get sent to another window with a line and get put in front of a computer to take multiple choice driving test and motorcycle test.
>go back to window and wait in line again
>receive paper that says you have a motorcycle learners permit. and leave
>you are now capable of riding anything with two wheels anywhereyou want so long as it is not at night and not on a freeway
>call DMV to schedule skills test
>get appointment for 3 weeks from now
>show up on motorcycle and must have DOT helmet, insurance, registration, etc.
>go to test scheduling window and wait an hour
>get sent outside to wait in line of cars for the testers for another hours
>ride the slalom and between the lines for two circles, slow and straight between the lines and two circles again in the opposite direction, and then a faster ride around the outside of the course shifting up and down a few times
>if you pass you get handed the test paper and sent back inside to wait in line for another hour
>you're given a temporary paper license and sent on your way, with an M1 endorsement license in the mail.
>you're now qualified to ride any motorcyucle in any conditions anywhere.

If the DMV wasn't so booked you could theoretically go from never having ridden a motorcycle to fully licensed in 2 days.

>>16685237
>>16685258
see:
>>16685260

I would never live in a restrictive statist shithole.

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Hello /dbt/

I know this might alarm some of you but please lets try to stay on topic. I am a 440 pound man and am interested in motorcycle racing. I have plenty of experience riding motorcycles (huge cruisers with my father and uncle mainly) so I know how to operate one but I have never even dared to sit on a sport bike. Do any of you guys know of any bigger guys that ride sport bikes and how they fare? I've seen a 350 pound dude on a S1000RR on YouTube and he looked to be pretty much pushing the limits of that bike (not power wise, but just how much space there is to hold a person in the seat etc...)

Any input would be appreciated. Thank you

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>>16685240
Why not a Viffer?

>>16685276
>Why not a Viffer?

>slow
>heavy
>honda

>>16685275
Get a Busa and prepare to drop a few grand on suspension tuning.

>>16685237
>his uncle never gave him a busa for his 15th brithday

>>16685275
lose weight

>>16685275
Only a larger sport touring bike or a hypersport touring bike would accommodate your fat ass. Don't even think of rolling your gargantuan meat bags over a 600 or 1000cc sportbike, you will destroy it.

Hayabusas and ZX-14's were created to accommodate sub-orbital bodies such as yourself.

>>16685258
>literally takes YEARS to ride a non-shit bike.

Why even live?

>>16685275
Stop eating so much food god damn you are one of the most obese people i have ever seen.
God damn i thought i was fat when i was 96kg....

How fucking hard is it to get through your thick fucking skull that you could live for like 3 years eating 1 cup of rice per day purely on your fat reserves, the reason you gain weight even when eating very little is your body already has more than enough fat than it can consume.

why are fat people so dense?
you could lose that weight simply by eating less you wouldnt even have to change your life style but no, them tummy rumbles hurt right?

Give up on your dreams of racing motorcycles until you lose that weight to answer your question.....

>>16685312
>God damn i thought i was fat when i was 96kg....
hello hungry skelly.

It is a well known fact you are not a fully grown adult male unless you are at least 100kg and below 20% bodyfat.

>>16685304
At 21 you can ride whatever you want. Seems appropriate.

>>16685328
>be 27 and want to get into motorcycling
>literally have to wait years before you're able to ride a decent bike

Sounds like shit

>not being able to ride a decent motorcycle at 17-18 years old.

Sounds like a shit system.

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>>16685322
>being unfit
>not part of the glorious sub 10% body fat master race
>thinking he is better than anyone else for being a lazy cunt

Remember, the man in this video is considered fat in other countries.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ik9KpUyytw

>>16685304
Well the upside is you're very likely to have a fatal accident from going 50 in a motorway because it's your top speed, or because the clutch is stuck in gear because all the 125s are ancient junk, or because your brakes barely work, or because you still have inner tubes in you wheels that WILL puncture.

Joking aside, it took years to get back any faith that a normal bike won't have some catastrophic failure with normal use because of the junk that you're forced to ride at the start.

>>16685275
Serious answers:
1. Please lose some weight. It will make you and your bike quicker, among other benefits. I'm not being flippant, either.
2. Go to a dealer with a wide selection of used sportbikes, nakeds, and sport tourers. Sit on them and see what fits.
3. A trip friend here I know is about 220 lbs and has fun on an 100 cc bike. Power ain't everything.

>>16685342
I didn't say anything about being fit. I just laid out the bare minimum requirements to be considered an adult male.

must be
>at least 100kg/225lbs
>below 20% bodyfat
>at least 183cm/6' tall

If you do not meet these bare minimum requirements you are not a fully grown adult male and should kys.

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>>16685312
First of all, I am this heavy because I want to be. The sport I compete in requires a bodyweight between 180-210kg. It may not look it but I am quite athletic and would pretty much run circles around your frail ass any day of the week

Second, it isn't a 'dream', I already know I can do it since I rode a TDM 900 a few weeks back and fit quite comfortably but that bike is massive and I don't know how it compares in size to proper sport bikes. This is the closest thing I have ever seen to not-a-cruiser

As for the rest of you, thank you for the suggestions. I will look into the Hayabusa and ZX14

>>16685343
If I want to kill ymself with an unsafe bike or by driving unsafely on the motorway on a bike too fast for me to control, I want to be able to do it.

No government should, or can, tell me what to do with the property I own or what property I can own.

What about riding without a permit/license over there? What if you just go out and buy a hayabusa andd ride it, what's stopping that?

In the US many people ride for years without ever getting permitted/licensed. You get a ticket for riding out of class along with anything else you got pulled over for, you pay it, and you continue on. Maybe the occasional cop is a dick and tries to tow your bike.

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>>16685361
>I am this heavy because I want to be.
>It may not look it but I am quite athletic
>run circles around your frail ass any day of the week
HAHAHAHAHAHA
This is what hamplanets ACTUALLY believe.

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>>16685194
>Just took a look at the on bike testing.

yes that's because there's two tests, the on road test which is easy and kind of pointless and the low speed skills test which is the same kind of low speed exercises most countries have.

>>16685361
First of all you are that heavy because you can't control yourself and you are using what ever excuses you can to keep your unhealthy habbits afloat.
>requires a body weight of 180-210kg
lmao wtf kind of excuse is that?

secondly you folding your fat around a tdm900 does not mean you can ride a bike fast, for one you throw off the centre of gravity way too much, how are you expecting tyres designed to handle a 200kg bike and 75kg rider to handle your obese land whale arse?
they won't.
You also completely kill all acceleration on the bike and put immense pressure on the chain, lugging your lard arse around is literally like strapping another bike on top of a bike, then riding it.

seriously just lose some weight. why is that so hard for you to do?

When you can see your dick without looking for it, then start thinking about racing motorcycles.

Not only are you fat but you are fucking dumb too, i guess those things are linked.

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Post a better bike at this poorfag range. Brand new price only, no secondhand.

>>16685376
Nothing stops you from owning the bike, but if you ride it on the road you run into a load of problems. to do it, you're running without a licence, without insurance and without tax. A lot of places have automated licence plate readers, s if you go past one of them you're fucked, or if you get pulled by the police, they'll run your plates and you're equally fucked. fines are in the thousands and you'll likely have to go to court.

I fully agree that it's bullshit, additional revenue for the government from more tests all in the name of safety is all it is.

>>16685398
I looked at the low speed on. It looks like mostly slaloms, medium speed swerves and u turns with box constraints.

All pretty easy, Nothing along the lines of the DMV parallel lines low speed circle test from what I saw.

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>>16685408

If you're going to get a small bike, at least get a fun small bike.

Why do people actually buy these 'faux sporrtbike' biles of shit?

>>16685361
>First of all, I am this heavy because I want to be. The sport I compete in requires a bodyweight between 180-210kg. It may not look it but I am quite athletic
Top kek this has to be a troll.

>>16685408
WR250X or WR250R is the only correct answer when the 250cc bike question comes up.

like the above anon says. Faired beginner bikes are just slow poser shit. Buy a fun and useful small bike.

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>>16685400

>being this mad

>>16685338
Nigger you don't understand how it works, if you're past 21 you can apply for the biggest category immediately, that's what I did.
Yes, at 17 you shouldn't be allowed on a 1000cc.

>>16685439
>you shouldn't be allowed
Says who?

Who the fuck are you or anyone else to tell people what they can or can't ride?

>>16685361
>inb4 sumo wrestler
I'm fucking dying

>>16685376
>No government should, or can, tell me what to do with the property I own or what property I can own.
I'm tired to death to hear this murrican bullshit "argument". The government is there exactly for that.

>>16685438
>being an obese land whale
nono tell me more about your fitness oh wise fat one.

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>>16685421
>>16685434
nothing wrong with them imo, the idea is to practice up your riding techniques on something with a sportbike posture and shape.

https://youtu.be/FgH91tdUGXI?t=37

They're usually more than capable enough machines.

>>16685456
No they are there to protect our rights and maintain the economy

>>16685361
If the sport you compete in requires you to be 200kg you might want to think about leaving that.

>>16685361
You a lineman?

>>16685439
"immediately" isn't the word I'd use. 21 years access to unlimited bikes requires the cbt, theory test, off-road test on-road test and 2 years on an A2 licence with no more than 6 points, taken when you are 19. you can then take 2 more tests and get a full licence.

If you want direct access you have to be 24 or over.

https://www.gov.uk/ride-motorcycle-moped/bike-categories-ages-and-licence-requirements

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>>16685338
And this sort of idiot is where fatality stats come from
>n-no I'm smarter than everyone else I can ride a literbike!
No you can't, fuck off.

>>16685400
>lugging your lard arse around is literally like strapping another bike on top of a bike, then riding it.
Laughing.
>>16685446
>>16685460
If you don't want to live by the rules you're free live outside society.

>>16685485
Why would you want to retard the human race by preventing Darwinism?

>>16685459
>burnout
Fucking kek

>>16685490
>>16685456
No they're not you fucking statist bootlicker.

The purpose of government is to maintain stability and order. through the rule off USEFUL law.

Arbitrarily telling people what they can or cant ride or trying to take away peoples inalienable rights of self determination or self defense are beyond this scope.

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>>16685459
You can hang off and drag peg and knee on a WR250X just as well as you can a Ninja 250

>>16685520
Don't argue with him. He is a retarded liberal. There is no saving him. Just let him live in his safe space

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Hey, I want to design and make a fender for the bike, as I just went for a ride and shit gets dirty way too fast.

What do you think of this? If I can find any dimensions online i'll probably proceed with something on solid works.

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>>16685528
Here is just another basic concept. Do you think this would look retarded?

My bike has the two bros dual slip on and integrated blinkers, and license plate is just about between the passenger rearsets.

>>16685528
>fender gets dirty
>so make another fender that gets dirty to keep it clean
Wat

>>16685537
The problem i'm having is that my rear seat is getting covered in mud pretty fast.

>>16685485
>caring about useless statistics.

If someone kills themselves on a bike they couldn't handle or by riding like an idiot. That's their business. Just because there is the potential for idiots doesn't mean every other human should be held to a standard created for this lowest denominator.

I am an adult and have been since I was in my teens and I am perfectly capable of determining what is apppropriate for myself and what is inappropriate for myself. I don't need you or anyone else to try and do that for me. I'm sorry that you have such little self control and intelligence that you need someone else to tell you what to do, but not everyone is so... limited.

>>16685540
So just put the OEM fender back on.

>>16685525
Sorry, but that's totally wrong and retarded, and you should never say that again

Sportbikes feel 100% different to ride than supermoto/dualsport. Center of gravity is much different, ride height much different, geometry different, etc.

>>16685376
>wahhh i should be able to drive like a fucking idiot and endanger others because muh freedoms

You're perfectly free to go crash into a tree at 100 mph (please do), just not on public roads or property

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>>16685525
sure if you want, there's no doubt the 300s and the little fake sportbikes and what not are gonna be closer, and if I had to pick a track bike out of the two I'd pick the 300s. The WR250X is a supremely average bike too, don't worry, I've ridden one, I know. I'm not saying you HAVE to pick one over a wr250x, I'm saying there's nothing wrong with them and they're great options.

I know this is /dbt/ though and nobody is allowed to buy anything that's not what you bought.

>>16685528
Maybe just try and get the longest hugger you can find.

>>16685528
>>16685535
>install fender eliminator on bike
>complain that bike gets covered in mud
>"I know ill install a janky secondary home made fender to solve a problem i created in the first place."

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>>16685535
>>16685528
You could just buy one that won't look completely fucking stupid

>>16685546

I don't have it, I bought the bike without it.

I also like designing stuff on solidworks.

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>>16685525
>You can hang off and drag peg and knee on a WR250X
Yes

>just as well as you can a Ninja 250
Not really

>>16685459
So I guess I'm getting it then?
>daily bike
>touring from time to time
>no track

>>16685554

>>16685553

Rude

>>16685557
It's an OEM part that every takes off. You can probably get it off a forum for the cost of shipping, and it will look astronomically less retarded than your half assed attempt at a custom hugger.

>>16685547
>Sportbikes feel 100% different to ride than supermoto/dualsport.
No they don't. I won both. The same skills you learn on a sportbike can be applied to a supermoto and vice versa. You can easily ride a supermoto like a sport bike.

The fact that they have different suspension setups and proportions do not change the underlying skills in a corner. Dragging knee on a WRX easily translates over to a sportbike. Actually makes it much easier as a real sportbike will have much more sorted suspension, a lower seat height, and more grip.

>You're perfectly free to go crash into a tree at 100 mph (please do), just not on public roads or property
So someone can easily go drive around a 5000-6000lb SUV/truck but the prospect of them on a 400lb sportbike terrifies you?

Arbitrary bullshit and you're a retard for buying into it.

>>16685582
can I see you kneedragging on your WR250X?

>>16685554

I like the design of that.

Any clue how that mounts on? the spots where the bolts are on the swingarm don't relate to any holes.

>>16685551
>I'm not saying you HAVE to pick one over a wr250x, I'm saying there's nothing wrong with them and they're great options.

You can learn just as well on something like a WRX and while learning on it when you drop it you don't have any plastics to royally fuck.

A light naked 250cc bike like the WRX is a much more appropriate bike to learn on and learn to push hard than a fully faired pretend sportbike.

>>16685582
>a real sportbike will have much more sorted suspension, a lower seat height, and more grip.
Wow it was almost like that's the entire point you retarded nigger

I own a ninja 300 and WR250x. They are nothing alike to ride. Yes you can lean in on a supermoto and pretend it's a sportbike, but if you want to go on the highway for any distance or go fast in turns that aren't kart-track tight, you are better off on the ninja

>>16685581
I don't think I can reinstall one with how the exhaust fits in.

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>>16685604
Then just get an aftermarket hugger. Making shit more complicated than sheet metal brackets I your garage usually looks like shit, even if you designed it in Autodesk.

>>16685600
>my bike is the best bike in the world and doing anything other than what I did is stupid because I'm the best rider in the world

we're still here are we?

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>>16685560
I have a sumo WRR and my room mate has a Ninja 300.

The WRR is much better to hang off of and handles better than the 300, super flickable and light steering. It's also faster up until ~70mph.

>>16685633
still waitin'
>>16685593

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>>16685593
You can see my tire.

>>16685628

Nah man I can vacuum form or 3d print something here. I want a project that I can take pride in.
Do you know how the aftermarket rear huggers attach? there are a serve lack of any nearby mounting points in that general area

>>16685640
>thinks chicken strips mean anything at all

confirmed shit rider

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>>16685601
I own one and regularly ride the other.
You are wrong.

>Wow it was almost like that's the entire point you retarded nigger
A Ninja 300 is not a preperly sorted sportbike. Not even close.
I do also own a properly sorted sportbike.

>>16685644
>thinks knee dragging means anything at all

confirmed shit rider

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>>16685655
>hurr durr i rode my roomates 300 one time and muh chikin strips
Please come back when you actually know how to ride

>>16685656
never said or implied that, keep grasping for straws

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>>16685640
>he doesnt have chicken strips
wow slow down street rossi

>>16685644
And dragging knee makes you a good rider? lel

>>16685656
I dunno man he was the one who brought up kneedragging.

>Dragging knee on a WRX easily translates over to a sportbike.

So I figured maybe he'd done it and I wanted to see, but I guess he was just talking out his ass or something.

>>16685665
Of course he is talking out his ass, you think he comes anywhere near dragging knee or peg on that thing with those tires?

>>16685660
I ride it whenever I want, I also ride a real sportbike and a WRR and can drag peg on all three of them. I think I'm about as qualified as one can be on this subject in this thread.

You're fucking wrong.

Learning to push a bike to it's limits can and does directly translate to another type of bike. Especially a faux sportbike or supermoto to a real sportbike. Difference is you can really push a supermoto and crash without having to rebuild the bodywork or fuck anything.

p.s. you still haven't posted your bike.

ITT: retard 250cc dual sport dirt bike riders arguing

get a real bike and then talk faggots

>>16685669
>>16685665
>>16685664
>>16685661
>>16685660
>>16685656
>>16685671
>>16685655
>>16685644
>>16685640
>>16685633
>>16685639

JESUS CHRIST SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU TOO.
PEOPLE LIKE DIFFERENT THINGS.

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>>16685665
>>16685665
>>16685669
>these faggots literally cannot drag peg and think it's some sort of unattainable action
topkek

>>16685674
I ride a 250c shitbike and a real bike, where is your god now?

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>>16685677
but im only one of those replies

>>16685674
Dirt bike is best bike. Street bikes are lame

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>>16685671
>Learning to push a bike to it's limits can and does directly translate to another type of bike.
Of course, but saying that a WR is just as good around a full roadrace track as a ninja 250 is just plain retarded. There is a reason their chassis geometry is way different, and AMA 450 super singles have such highly modified suspension to be rideable at the higher speeds of road racing


Still haven't seen any evidence of you not being a shit rider btw, but i posted my bike here

>>16685660
and here is one of the others

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>>16685690
Nice try, I know you're a shitposter extraordinaire.

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>>16685681
>I ride a 250c shitbike and a real bike
Unless you have one of these, all you have is a kids toy, brother.

REAL bikes for REAL men.

>>16685671
Your BP is probably garbage if you're dragging pegs on a 300 on the street

>>16685697
>saying that a WR is just as good around a full roadrace track as a ninja 250 is just plain retarded.
Somehting I literally never said.

I said a WR makes a much better starter bike and if you're going to get a 250cc bike it's better to get something like the WRX over a 250/3300 faux sportbike to learn on. You can push it hard and if and when you push it too hard you can drop it and nothing happens. You pich it up and ride on, on a fully faired faux sportbike you have substantial damage. You're not gaining anything over learning to push a faux sportbike over learning to push something like a WRX.

And when you do move on to a real sportbike those skills you learned pushing a WRX directly translate to fully faired high performance sportbike.


>shit rider
better than you pal

>>16685483
UK is not Europe.
>>16685520
>>16685526
Why not let 1 year olds have the motorcycle license?
Fucking inbread retards I swear, you're the same as this obese guy wanting to "race" bikes.

>>16685712
>Why not let 1 year olds have the motorcycle license?
why not? They cant ride the bike anyway whats the hard in them having the license.

By the time they're big enough to actually ride they bike they'll also be old enough to reasonably control it.

You failed at your own rediculous red herring.

>>16685712
It's a part of the continent of Europe.

>>16685709
>Somehting I literally never said.
>>16685525
>You can hang off and drag peg and knee on a WR250X just as well as you can a Ninja 250

>>16685708
>Your BP is probably garbage if you're dragging pegs on a 300 on the street

The ground clearance on the 300 is significantly lower than my 600. it's much easier to drag peg on the 300.

>>16685720
Where in that quote is anything about a WRR/WRX being better or faster on a racetrack?

Seriously nigger do you have this shit of reading comprehension?

>>16685723
I take it back, just looked at the pictures and your casual as fuck roommate still has peg feelers. Probably drags peg without even trying then

>>16685707
KKK just proving that he's a faggot more and more every day.

>>16685729
>Where in that quote is anything about a WRR/WRX being better or faster on a racetrack?
>You can hang off and drag peg and knee on a WR250X just as well

>>16685735
What does hanging off and dragging knee just as well have to do with being faster or better on a racetrack?

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>>16685681
I've scraped knees, peg and kickstand.

You're the only guy who brought up kneedragging so I just want to see it is all, I mean people on /dbt/ wouldn't talk about things they've never done like they know all about it would they?

Would they?

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>>16685732
It's okay brother, your little Yamasaki bicycle can ride along in the bike lane but if you want a REAL motorcycle, brother, you need some REAL American steel ™©

>>16685712
Where have you got europe from?

I was talking about the UK since:
>>16685258
And you jumped in outraged that everyone was wrong about something they weren't even talking about

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>>16685741
>What does hanging off and dragging knee just as well have to do with being faster or better on a racetrack?
lol

i think we're done here. i'm going back down to the garage, see you faggots later

>>16684911
VTX
it's like a shadow, but better

>>16685749
Shadow 1100 ACE is pretty cool though.

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>>16685742
Sorrybro , I don't have other people take pictures of me for facebook when I'm riding.

>>16685748
Are you seriously implying dragging knee or peg implies equal cornering speed or lap times on a track between two bikes? Seriously?

wtf.

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>>16685741

>>16685745
stop shit posting

>>16685742
I dont think many people have photos of themselves dragging knees or whatever.. Not everyone wants to pay $40 to get some photo at a track day

>dragging knees on a sumo
who the fuck does this anyway

>>16685758
>implying dragging knee or peg implies some sort of equivalent cornering speed or lap times between two completely different bikes
>implying there aren't significant variables that determine a bikes trustworthiness and overall lap times beyond how low the rider gets his knee or the cornering ground clearance of the bike.

>>16685772
Alright I'll stop. That was fun.

>>16685755
>I don't have other people take pictures of me for facebook when I'm riding.
why not?

>>16685716
The funniest and most shoking thing is that you actually believe what you just wrote.
You should be forced back to school.

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>>16685772
>>dragging knees on a sumo
>who the fuck does this anyway
Well. Nicky Hayden for one...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwlaVwi_KNo
>been riding for less than 3 years
>already this good
What the fuck. I gotta improve my game.

>>16685788
Your reply to my post did not contain anything resembling a counterpoint or any counter argument at all. I take you you have conceded defeat in your own mind but don't have the pride to admit it.

I accept your forfeiture. Next time do not engage a debate if you do not have the intelligence to participate and sustain it.

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>>16685772
>>dragging knees on a sumo
>who the fuck does this anyway
>>16685789
And his brother Roger Hayden

>>16685796
It's hard to use real debate and argument skills in a Mongolian Sherpa mingling forum when half the people will disappear, or deny and resort to insults.

Neither of you is here to learn, you're here to be right.

>>16685779
I'm too old for that shit, I don't have a facebook anymore, and I can't be fucked to bother.

>>16685789
>>16685789
it isnt really conventional though
foot out shifts more weight, only reason to put knee down is for consecutive corners like your pic where the body movement is too excessive

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>>16685408
Holy shit how did I trigger this shit flinging?
To give more context, I'll be riding the bike daily in conditions like pic related. Maaaybe drive to the country side once or twice a month.
To make this even easier, let's limit our options to what is listed here:
motortrade com ph/motorcycles/pang-sports

Or should I just accept my tropical nigger destiny and get an underbone like everyone else here?

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>>16685789
>>16685803
why though?
they are riding those bikes wrong.

>>16685819
>the fastest supermoto racers in the world are riding it wrong
I guess 5/10 you got me to reply

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>>16685772
Most people do believe it or not, it's nice to see how you're riding from a 3rd perspective and see some stuff you could fix.

A mate rode behind me on track for a lap and it was very illuminating to see where I was actually apexing and places I could improve on my lines a lot.

Getting some footage of yourself is probably one of the best things you can do to improve on your riding because it takes out any guesswork.

>>16685707
Can't do the white walls. I'd rather ride my bike instead of clean it all the time

>>16685835
>the fastest supermoto racers in the world are riding it wrong
they are doing it wrong

lets see them put knee down on a flat track instead of foot out and see how well they do

>>16685752
True enough. I'm just partial is all :/

I'm sure ill miss my vtx after my buddy buys it from me

>>16685816
>>16685819
You can ride a supermoto either way.

Foot forward and on the tank is to unload the rear wheel as much as possible and permit slides. beneficial for lower speed corners which is why it was adopted for su0permoto racing.

You can very easily not load up the front and lean of the bike like a sportbike and be fast, you're just not going to slide which can hurt your ability to get the bike turned in lower speed corners. Doing so isn't "wrong" it's just different.

Leaning a supermoto like a sportbike is a very valid way to ride one and a good way to practice body position and confidence for a real sportbike. Additionally you can go faster around higher speed corners because you're not going to run out of ground clearance as fast if you're leaning of into the turn.

Leaning out foot out is only really beneficial for low speed and can hinder the high speed. And is ultimately useless if you're not sliding the bike in which most people do not do.

>>16685819
I would love to see your autistic ass go to AMP and tell the former MotoGP world champion and former AMA Supersport world champion that they are riding anything with two wheels wrong. topkek

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>>16685835
They are doing it wrong though.
those bikes are designed with a very high centre of gravity which is why the body positions used on them are completely different.

If they were riding pic related they would be using the right body position but they aren't so they're not.

>>16685840
Yeah I hear that. My dad's flstc has old yellowed ones from when he got the bike and it took a lot to clean them out. When clean though, they look great.

>>16685849
I had you. I just saw that scout I posted yesterday, that thing is cool. I couldn't believe how small it is in real life. You'd have no idea. Pictures make it look much bigger than it actually is but it was tiny compared to the street glide behind it.

>>16685851
>I would love to see your autistic ass go to AMP and tell the former MotoGP world champion and former AMA Supersport world champion that they are riding anything with two wheels wrong. topkek
they are american, so id have no problem doing that

>>16685861
Lol. Yea the scout is a pretty compact bike.
But put it next to a chief and it's kinda funny. They're pretty long. Very lincoln town car esq. Which is great on longer trips. But you can Def feel the length *phrasing* in the turns

>>16685858
lean out foot out is only beneficial for sliding the bike to get it turned in.

If you're not sliding the bike in you're gaining nothing from a funky foot out leaned out body position and loading up the front tire.

You can, and may people do, ride supermotos quickly with sportbike like body position.

If you ride a supermoto and you're not sliding it in, your "TOP SUPERMOTO RACER IN THE WORLD" body position is accomplishing exactly nothing.

>>16685879
The visual off some eurobong autist walking up to two world champs and stammering out something about their riding being wrong is a hilarious visual.

>>16685858
>those bikes are designed with a very high centre of gravity
lel no they're not.
Also you realize the bike you pictured is literally built on a KTM SX frame, right?

>>16685885
Long and low always looks good my dude.

I think I figured out the issue with my carb. I think I didn't do a good job on cleaning out the idle circuit. It rips once you get it above like 4k, but below that it isn't pulling enough fuel in. I'm going to go hard on the carb cleaning this weekend. Really really hard ;)

Also I need a clutch master cylinder rebuild kit.

>>16685886
>and stammering out something about their riding being wrong is a hilarious visual
id also have my touch pad with playlist of a dozen youtube videos of european supermoto championship highlight reels, and hundreds of pictures, showing everyone with foot out
theyd be btfo

>>16685895
Shiiiit. Nigga. How long did you let it soak?

>Just put the battery back in my bike and started it up
>Rattled the entire house with the baffles in
god i want to insure it now, that was a mistake.

>>16685901
2 days in pine Sol, but I never really cleared it or used air. I'm going to go at it with some wire.

>>16685908
Do it fagguette. What bike

>>16685896
>autistic eurobong walks up to premier motorcycle racing world champion and tries to show him youtube videos to critique his riding

fucking hilarious.

>>16685909
Soak that bitch in some green. That's like liquid magic.

>>16685917
I'm going to use this gunk carb dip I've got. I just have to remove all rubber first.

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>>16685915
T U O N O
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>>16685917
Some simple green *

>>16685926
Noice.

>>16685928
How does it do with rubber?

>>16685919
Nice. Well hopefully you get that shit up and running soon. Take that bitch to the next Sturges

>>16685932
Hmm. Not entirely sure. You'd have to read the bottle. I've used it to clean all kinds of shit. But not soaking it.

>>16684587

>Out for Sat morning ride through the hills

>Lots of guys out doing the same with friends

>I have no friends

>Stop at a Cafe full of bikes

>Sit there autistically by myself

>Too shy to talk to anyone

>Ride home

It's a bad feel.

>>16685938
Lol I'm planning a big ride with some dudes to go to a retreat in may. This fucker better be working by then.

When is Sturgis? One of my life goals is to ride a big Harley there for the rally.

>>16685940
Gotcha my dude. I'll take a look

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>>16685919
You could also try boiling them

>>16685941
Just ask somebody some questions about their bike, they get super excited and will talk forever.

>>16685941
If you had face height frame then a qt would have approached you. kys and try again next life.

>>16685796
>dude just give 1 yo bike licence
>hehe you're not as intelligent as me
Glad I'm not.

>>16685947
Hope you don't reuse your pots for cooking

>>16685961
Please explain exactly what a 1 year old would do with a motorcycle license that is so dangerous.

Please be as detailed as possible for toppest keks.

>>16685947
Is this legit?

>>16685963
>cooking
what am I? A woman?

>>16685974
Do you know the effect of increased temperatures effect on the viscosity of oils and grease?

Boil in water then wash down with kerosene.

>>16685976
Go back to your homework, Timmy.

Cooking is one of man's earliest skills.

>>16685986
Would dunking in gasoline it diesel work? Or just spraying with wd40? It's going on the bike soon after

>>16685974
Yes, it's legit. Some add lemon juice, I don't bother. Nothing in the carb can't stand 212F, so I don't have to worry about ALL the rubber bits.

And no, I don't cook with the pot I use.

>>16685946
Not sure on the exact dates. I know I'll be on hitch though. But I'm off for most of the other bike events happily

>>16686010
Honestly I'd feel bad about bringing a Honda to Sturgis. Definite bucket list though.

>>16686008
Interesting. I might try that.

>>16686000
Man gets the food, woman cooks the food.

In "man's earliest skills", "man" refers to humankind, not the male gender.

>diesel
>Would dunking in gasoline it diesel work?

Gas and diesel both can work but not as well as kerosene for their own reasons. Gas is too thin and volatile, diesel is too dirty/oily. Kerosene is just right.

>>16686016
Only time i would go is on a stretched pearl white busa with a sexy voluptuous naked black goddess airbrushed on the side.

>>16686016
Why? I ride my honda around harley guys. Worse case is they get all salty and butthrt. Just toss a few dbt memes at um and lol at how flustered they get

>>16686019
One of man's first "jobs" was cooking the hunt over fire. This is pretty society

But thanks man I'll see if I can find some. The motor can burn off a little kerosene mixed with gas as well. Not a bad idea.

>>16686023
Kek

>>16686027
True lol. It's more of the mindset of if I'm doing this, I'm getting the full experience.

>>16685974

Can confirm is legit.

Also if it's something you're going to regularly do I highly recommend even a cheap shitty ultrasonic parts cleaner, picked mine up on sale from the local auto shop for 50 dollary doos.

I rebuild a set of carbs almost weekly (buy/sell/build lots of older bikes) and you just pull the things apart, chuck em in and it does a fucking incredible job.

>>16686023
Pearl white is sexiest of bike colors

>>16685974
you could do it but it's retarded. hitting it up with a blow torch and then wiping it clean with a pressure hose would have the same effect.

make sure you remove any seals first

>>16685889
>Also you realize the bike you pictured is literally built on a KTM SX frame, right?
That was the point you dumbfuck

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>>16685843
>he thinks a Hayden doesn't know how to foot drag

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Is there any paint scheme prettier than rs250 gulf?

>>16686019
>woman cooks the food.
only when men dont give a fuck and would rather drink a beer and watch tv
but men always controls the bbq, men are the worlds best chefs..

>>16686039
Ideally, my next bike will have fuel injection or just be working. But thanks mab I can do that.

>>16686041
I have neither of those. I do have a cell and a cheap pot though

>>16686052
that schemes pretty overrated desu

>>16686053
yep, all the best chefs were men. Women have like martha stewart and julia childs.

>>16686040

>Pearl white is tackiest of bike colors

Fixed that for you.

It's right up there with anodizing.

>>16686052

10/10, it's ok.

>>16686058
Nah m9. A proper pearl white bike is sexual.

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>>16686052
plenty

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>>16686061

>is sexual

So is sticking things up your bottom, but it's still gay.

>>16686063
>prettier
nah that looks like turd. At least pick something cool like marlboro.

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>>16686069
hey fuck you too buddy

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>>16686066
those boots are pretty fucking rad

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>>16686067
Show me on the doll where pearl white touched you lil fella!