[ D a i l y B i k e T h r e a d ] - /dbt/

honda a shit

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>>16603541
Watercooled honda a shit
Aircooled a good

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Hey /dbt/,

I'm going to take a Pan-American trip next summer. I'm planning to ride from Michigan to either Panama or Argentina, depending on what I can afford in regards to time and money alike. Needless to say, I've never taken a trip quite like this before. I want to make sure that I get the best bike for the job.

My budget is probably going to between $7,000 and $10,000. I'm trying to decide between the V-Strom 650, KLR 650, and Honda CB500x. So far, I'm inclined to go with the Wee - it's a little pricey but seems to have great reliability and better freeway touring capabilities than anything else in its price range. I don't think I'd be doing a lot on very rough trails or boulder-strewn roads.

Any opinions on which bike is the best or any I might not have considered?

>inb4 retarded travel memes
>I'm a /trv/fag and have been to 35 countries since 2013, including Iraq
>learned how to ride in India so not afraid of shit-tier traffic and drivers
>been around Latin America a fair amount and not terrified of Le Cartel Beheading meme

Pic not really related - it's me lane-splitting in Delhi.

>>16603543
Nah, that bike was just from when honda used to be good.

>>16603541
I kinda want a cbr300 for scooting around town

>>16603544
Vstrom and klr are shitty as fuck
Cb500 is underpowered
Try again

>>16603554
>sport bike
>town riding
Dumbest thing ive heard so far today

>>16603544
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>>16603544
I'd go for the KLR650 or DR650 because they're everywhere and will be easier to get parts for than almost anything else.

There's no bike that will be perfect for every situation that comes up. V strom will be nice on roads but heavy and shitty on dirt.

At the end of the day, it won't really matter. People have travelled all over the globe on CT90's and supersports.

>>16603562
Tiny sportbikes are good for around town hooning

>>16603557

>offers only memes and nothing of value

>>16603575
>>16603564

Thanks! I'm still leaning towards the V-Strom, but new KLRs are significantly less expensive. I have a miserably underpowered 500cc bike now and kind of want something I can open up on the highway just a little.

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>>16603544
wee if you plan on sticking to roads a lot, klr or dr650 for going BDR routes and trails

>>16603590
>500cc
What cuck biek?

>>16603596

Probably going to stick to pavement for the most part, but having the option of going off-road or comfortably bumping down Bolivia-tier dirt shit would be nice.

>>16603590
So you know they are meme bikes and you want them amyway?
Enjoy your underpowered over weight suzuki

>>16603607

Why do your waste your time posting garbage, senpai?

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GET HYPE

>>16603544
v-strom is the best of those, without a doubt.

can i come?

>>16603607
Everyting made by suzuki is a meme. Literaly every bike they make is a rip off of another bike, uses the same engine from 30 years ago or some other bike, frame,wheels or forks/shock and has a shitty fanbase.

>>16603610
Its true though. Its heavier than its competitors and has less power.
Only tards buy suzuki

I'm getting my CHP course taken this weekend and had a question.

Why do you guys LITERALLY just leave your helmets on the handlebars of your bikes when you go into a store? Why are you not worried about $500 helmet getting stolen or knocked on the ground and ruined?

Also, if I'm doing that circle bit do I lean the bike into the circle and lean my body out of the circle?

>>16603626
1. You are correct for being worried about this. This is something only retards do. Place the helmet on the ground or secure it using the helmet lock so there is zero possibility of it falling. Even a drop from a table can release teh stored energy in the foam.

2. yeah, for close quarter maneuvers like that you're supposed to position your body to the opposite side to maintain balance. the only time you "lean into it" is when you have speed because that keeps you planted. if you have no speed, you'll just fall over

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>>16603626
>His bike dosent have a helmet lock

>>16603618

Sure.

>>16603619
>>16603620

>/b/-tier babbling about memes

>>16603632
>helmet lock

Didn't know about this. WIll buy one.

Thanks for the help fellow bikefag

Call me a pussy, but I drive an 18 wheeler and I have butterflies for this weekend.

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>>16603635
>if i ignore it, it isnt real

>>16603620
>>16603619
>>16603643
Suzuki is famous for it's reliability.

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>>16603650
Not really..

>>16603635

>There talking bad about my favorite sewing machine company so its probably just bad fake memes
Post gs500 cuckboi

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>>16603652

>Triumph
>29%

>>16603654

I've never even owned a Suzuki. :^)

>>16603650
So. There still the discount honda.

>>16603652
Yes they are, their bikes never fail.

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>>16603659
>Never owned a suzuki
>Still butthurt

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>>16603603

wee will handle a lot of abuse but if you think your gonna thrash on dirt the klr might be a better bet if you want a mostly ready bike out of the box.
the dr is a better bike in every way mechanically, more power (iirc), fewer problems, better suspension and lighter. but lacks wind protection, but you can add that in pretty easily

>>16603662
Clearly fail 12% of the time

>>16603652
Second to Yumyumha, above everything else? Seems p. reliable to me.

>>16603652
How come people always jerk off about honda reliability when they're clearly not even as reliable as others? I've never heard "Yamaha reliability" before.

>>16603652
>KTM so low it didn't make it to the list

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>>16603717
Yeah
Still love my ktm though. Never lets me down

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>>16603672

Thanks for the insight.

I'll consider the DR650 as well. I'm reading some DL650/DR650 reviews and comparisons on other websites. The impression I get is that both are solid machines, with the DR being not quite as good on the highway and the DL not being nearly as good in the dirt.

Only reservation I have with the DR650 is that it doesn't seem as suitable for very long-distance touring. Michigan to Panama and back is an easy 8,000 miles. However, I do remember a lot of roads in Nicaragua and Costa Rica really required something lightweight and maneuverable. I guess getting a V-Strom would close some doors in regards to rural exploration, a la pic related.

>>16603714
You almost never hear about Yamaha. At least in the conversations I've had both in-person and online, it's always a "my opinions are better than your opinions" between Suzuki, Honda and Kawasaki. No reason stated, it's just not in the spotlight or something?

>>16603729
Because no one ever complains about yamaha except butt hurt suzuki fags

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i haven't ridden through in n out since that time i got burned at the drive-thru. now i am a sonicboy

>>16603734
In n out > sonic

>>16603733
Enough with the trolling, okay? You're being really transparent. Do something productive for once. Call your dad and ask how he's doing or something. Pay your grandma a visit. You know, move forward in life?

>>16603734
Burned? Literally or figuratively?

>>16603748
i was at the speaker for like an entire 2 minutes honking and no one ever answered me so i left and ate a hard-boiled egg at home

>>16603729
They seem like they're one of the only jap brands actually trying new stuff. FZ07 and 09 were pretty fresh compared to what was on the market and they're selling like crazy now whether you like them or not.

Newest thing to come out of others were like H2 and Grom which don't interest many people.

>>16603743
No ones trolling.
Suzuki builds outdated, underpowered, heavy bikes.
Thats their thing. Look up the numbers and cry some more

>>16603752
U fucking autist you should have gone to the booth and knocked on the window. I've had that happen when the ringer system doesn't register the existence of my bike due to insignificant metal and/or physical mass (magnetic/motion sensitive ringer).

In the case there's no sensor and it's up to the staff to keep an eye out, they were dozing or some shit, should've gone to knock on the booth anyway.

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>>16603762
you kids these days will call anything autism

>>16603760
I ride a fucking Honda but this shit has to stop, it hasn't been funny for a long while now. Your inane acts of lashing out are making this place a reddit-worthy shithole.

>>16603678
Fake data.

>>16603760
Only reason suzuki sells is because 0% down financing.

>>16603760
>btw take a look at my bike here, it's a scale model of a panigale

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>>16603771
Ok.
Tell suzuki to stop building terrible bikes.
Then tell the owners to stop acting smug about said terrible bikes.
That would solve the issue
>>16603779
Take a look at two of my 4 bikes

>>16603783

>that piece of shit truck and trailer-trash yard

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaw!

>>16603785
Haha ok bud.
>jelly of my property
Post your bike and truck.

>>16603783
According to the statistics posted beforehand and my vague knowledge of the used bike market, Suzuki seems to be the cheapest of the four and still in the top when it comes to reliability. I guess you gotta make sacrifices. Also aren't the GSX-R 750 and 1000 legendary in every respect?

>>16603792
I dont understand why this is in every thread.

>>16603792
you've literally been posting that for at least a year now, I appreciate the commitment.

>>16603783
>redneck rants over suzuki
Can Suzuki even be stopped at this point?

>>16603798
>Jap truck
>jap bikes
>redneck
Huh?

>>16603804

>dinged up baby blue truck
>no garage
>parks his vehicles in the middle of his barren, beat-down grass yard
>surrounded by duplexes and shitty, low-cost fencing

>I have Jap bikes!!! I can't be a redneck!!!

>>16603783
>mazda truck
10/10 taste, my friend owned a '91 b2200i that he ran without and fluid or rad for the longest time, crashed it into a ditch 3 times, caught it on fire, and still drove it home.

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>>16603811
I have a rather large shop actually.
And thats not grass. Its gravel. I just tore up the asphalt and its being redone in the spring.
There are no duplexes here at all. Just homes.

>>16603796
more like 2 or 3 years

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>>16603811
Also my truck is dent free aside from some door dings
>>16603815
Yeah i love this truck

>>16603793
>Gsxr750
>600cc sized frame for twisties
>Torque so don't need to change gears every two seconds
>Cheap
>Reliable
>Unlimited aftermarket parts
>One of the best looking new sports bikes out there (except headlight)
What more could you want

>>16603834
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUJ-zubNu-4

>>16603843
If you're going to drop that much money into a bike why would you not just get a supersport?

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>>16603530
Greetings, friends!

I am tossing around the idea of getting a dualsport bike. Doing the transamerica trail has always been a dream of mine. Where is a good place to start? I am mostly interested in reliability and off road capability. I don't really give a fuck about feature or HP. I'll admit that I dont know dick about bikes though.

Any help would be appreciated.

>>16603881
WR250R

>>16603880
>GSXR750
>not a supersport
u wot m8

>Marc Marquez claims he is more interested in bikes than girls and that he's never had a gf.


is he literally our guy

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>>16603881
DR650
XR600R

>>16603888
hadnt heard of that, great suggestion thanks!

I was looking for something a little more streetable though. Probably should have mentioned that.

>>16603916
except he's a cunt

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>>16603916
>bikes can't say no

im sure he crushes poon but traveling all over the world all the time probably makes it hard to have any kind of long term relationship

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POST WEBMS

>>16603913
Ehhh technically a middleweight.
600s are supersports (and 675s and 848s etc...), 1000s are superbikes (and 1200 and 1300 ducatis), 750 i4s are kinda neither.

>>16603930
sure if you are going by AMA rulebook, but those definitions are hardly set in stone

>>16603913
my bad, meant superbike.

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>>16603880

I think it's for overcompensating manlets who are too small for a liter bike so they can say "my penis may only be 3 inches but my 750 makes 171 bhp, baby!"

>t. fireblade master race.

>>16603947
I'm only 5'9 but ride a liter peter fine

>>16603940
Buuut its not really a superbike either.
20 years ago, 750 i4s were superbikes in terms of racing classes, now the 750 is neither supersport or superbike. It'll outrun supersports all day, but get trounced my superbikes.

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Looks like the replacement parts for my motorcycle from the crash won't be as big as I thought it'd be and I'll install the things myself, save a nice chunk of money.

Ibuprofen every 6 hours for a week isn't fun though.

>>16603917
thanks man these look great!

>>16603960
I know, I'm saying if you're going to drop a shitload of money modding a bike, just get a superbike. It'll be better than that bike is while stock and blow it out of the water modded.

>>16603947
That GSXR will shit on a CBR1000. It is under 350 lbs.

>mfw people who have probably never been on track in their lives telling people what super expensive sportbike to buy
your opinion does not matter

>>16603991
neither does yours, shitter.

went to some motorcycle show today

shud i upload shitty pictures from there? do you guys even care bout stuff like that?

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>>16603991
Guess my opinion matters, fggt

>>16603991
Its just like the rest of /o/
>800hp super car that i dont own is better than your civic
Fucking tards around here

>>16603995
I'm not the one acting like my opinion is fact and people who have way more experience than me are wrong, trolly is the only other person on here i know of who even has a track bike

>>16604004
nobody cares, nigger.

>>16604001
true dat

>hurr a stock fireblade is faster than a 190bhp GSXR that's 80 lbs lighter

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just gonna put this here since I know you all love cafes

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>>16604011
Thats not a cafe.
But i actually like cafe bikes
>anything with style is frowned upon on dbt
>sport bikes are ok though
I dont get it

>>16604011
more of a street tracker if were being autistic but thats cool

classic yammie black and yellow a best

>>16604014
It's 4chan. Everyone's gotta be an edgy hater

>>16604014
2 smoke is GOAT

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I'm starting to see why this may not have been ideal as a first bike. The mechanic I sent it to (probable "head gasket" failure (actually the head gasket may have been replaced by silicone baka)) had one and told me it literally cannot be driven slow for more than 5 minutes or it will stain the spark plugs.
So, should I ride slow and stop every 5 minutes to clean the plugs or do I just say fuck it and keep the revs happy even though I am completely inexperienced? Is it hard to keep control the first times? I'd like to know before I look like a total idiot cleaning the plugs every kilometre I make.

>>16604014
nobody hates a nice cafe bike that's actually done well

everybody hates a faggot who buys some piece of shit 70s jap bike and hacks off the fender and puts upside down bars on it and calls it a cafe racer

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>>16604031
Nah. Some people truely hate them.

>>16604028
are you the dingbat who bought an RS250 knowing nothing about it?

headgasket should take like 5 minutes to actually do why don't you just fix it

>>16604032
I dont hate them, its just rare when I see one that I actually like.
That CX500 is nice to look at.

>>16604028
Your mechanic is an idiot.

But so are you for getting italian shit as your first bike.

>>16604028
hey why the fuck is the acronym for shaking my head transformed into "baka" what's this faggot weeb shit

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>>16604042
Hello newfag

>>16604034
it had other problems to sort out and I wanted to be sure it wasnt a cracked cylinder or some other shit
>>16604041
not my mechanic, but the previous owner's
my mechanic is very good, but is asking €150 for a front suspension seal, which is nuts imho

>>16604048
suck my dick, I've been around since 2008, that's almost 10 years, and I have never encountered such faggotry, mostly because I never write s m h

>>16604055
buy stands and one of these and do it yourself

http://www.ebay.com/itm/332026849604

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>>16603640
You don't need to buy one. It's built into almost every motorcycle. It can vary from model to model though. Sport bikes/standard/naked bikes always have it under the passenger seat

Is it a bad idea to buy used bikes off gumtree?

>>16604065
my monster doesnt have one that i know of

>>16604065

Bonneville t100 have one m8?

>>16604062
fucking fuck shit this shit is cheap as fuck (unlike the stands, but I think I will have to buy those anyway)
I should come here more often asking for advice, it would have saved me a lot.
But then again, idk if I would have noticed the oil leak, the bike was quite dirty.

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>>16603881
Baird did it on a drz, we had dinner in Denver near his halfway. Seemed pretty fun.

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I want to paint my bike like this one day, when jesus cunt decides it will finally work
I asked around and it takes some €500 euros to have it done by a professional and honestly fuck that
is it smart to take the matter in my own hands?
I alreayd have a compressor, but is a €40 paint gun going to cut it?
do I need special paints and if yes how much can they cost?

>>16604114
So you can be more of a poser than you already are?

>>16604114
The devil is in the prep work, or so ive heard.
If you can clean and prep the surface perfectly, your cheap setup should do fine.

>>16604114
color-rite.com

>>16604122
Poser with bike > loser without bike

>>16604114
>500 euros
Honestly, that sounds extremely reasonable

>>16604132
Still pathetic.
Also ive already posted my bikes in this thread

>>16604133
or you could do it yourself at home in 2 weekends for 1/4 of that

>>16604114
if your handy, watch some youtube videos and learn the technique. Since you have no experience, youll likely end up with a bike that LOOKS like you painted it yourself. So if you dont care about the possibility of devaluing your bike, go for it.

>>16604136
Sure you have. Either youre one of those douches that pretends to have bikes or youre one of those MEGA douches that shits on other people's bikes because you think yours are better.
Either way, you should try sucking less dick.

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>>16604139
it is seriously easy. all you need is patience, the proper stuff (i.e. buy paint from color-rite if you're using aerosol, not krylon or something), and a clean place to paint at the proper temperature.

90% of it is how much time you're willing to put into prep and finish if you don't cheap out or try to cut corners. i painted my bike first time and it came out great.

http://denver.craigslist.org/mcy/5959631080.html

All this talk of mini supermotos makes me want a shitbike something fierce...

>>16604137
My time and stress is worth that much. If I wanted to paint a bike, that's totally reasonable.

And the chance that it looks good and not like shit is greatly reduced.

>>16604152
Lol
Enjoy being an attention seeking pathetic excuse for a human the rest of your life
>muh sport bike
>LOOK AT ME!!!!!
>muh race livery on a non race bike
>WHY WONT ANYONE LOOK AT ME!!!!!!!!

>>16604136
>>16604122
What the hell do you want, nigger, those colours look amazing, it's one of the best liveries that there are both for cars and for bikes, now you want to throw shit at it because it would make me a "poser"? Have some taste.
>>16604133
it is because it's done by a professional who will take lots of his pricey hours to do it, but my hours are free (or at least they cost me study, not money)
>>16604139
I don't really, but I do care about the looks of the thing
>>16604127
this is absolutely useless
>>16604126
>or so ive heard
is there anyone here that has direct experience with this?

>>16604161
try to rein in your autism a little bit buddy, i'm embarrassed for you

>>16604157
You can get a much newer XR100 for the same price.

>>16604162
>is there anyone here that has direct experience with this?
yes, see
>>16604156
and go back to color-rite and look around, they have tutorial videos, all kinds of information on what kind of paint you need and how to do it. if you buy paint from them, they will send you very detailed directions that you will follow to the letter if you want your bike to look good. only thing is they dont really have a paint search thing so you'll have to call/email them or find the paint codes some other way

>>16604161
Im not the guy who wants the paint job, pole smoker.
Im just pointing out how much of an insufferable cockwad you are.
I hope you spill brake fluid on your fairings.

>>16604161
it wasnt me you're replying to and man, seriously, fuck off
I like those colours, I didnt say anything about wanting to be noticed, and actually most of my friends think those colours are shit, so I decided that I want that look because I like it PERSONALLY, which is the same reason why I bought the bike, for ME
now, just tell me what you know about painting bikes, I don't care about your shitty presumptuous assumptions

>>16604157
if it's worth $700 for 2 days of work then thats fine for you im just sayin

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>>16604162
>>16604164
>>16604174
>having fairings
>>16604177
LOOOOOOOK AAAAAAATTTTTT MMMMMMMEEEEEE
IM ON A SPORT BIKE!!!!!! BUT I DONT DO SPORTS!!!!!! I JUST WANNA LOOK COOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!
AM I COOL YET?!?!?!?!

>>16604170
Not locally sadly, and if so I'm not looking in the right place

>>16604186
>[AUTISTIC SCREECHING]

>>16604186
What are you trying to get at here? Sounds like the ramblings of a homeless man.

>>16604179
It's not worth it to me to paint a bike, period. But in looking up how much it would cost to get my truck done, 540 us dollars is completely reasonable. The exchange rate is less than 1.1 euro to dollar famalam.

>>16604186
Lets all point and laught at the autist!

>>16604156
thank you
do you know if what's said here http://www.wikihow.com/Paint-a-Motorcycle is correct or if it's missing anything?
what sand paper do you suggest using for the first sanding and for the sanding before the final coat?
also, we don't have color-rite over here and anyway I can't find the gulf colours on that

>>16604204
if you actually gave a shit, the paintjob you do at home would be better than anything youd get for $500

>>16604214
>wikihow
seriously nigger, they dont even tell you what kind of sandpaper to use

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21fBWTsdJC4

>>16604186
just look at how many people are amused by your pointless baiting

>>16604228
4 so far

>>16604225
idk man, I'm 100% new to this, wikihow was the first thing I came across

>>16604238
its all good but wikihow is like yahoo answers tier

http://www.colorrite.com/bulletins/Aerosol-Instructions.pdf

>>16604186
This sums up sportbike riders nicely.

Having feelings makes me want to kill myself

To be quite honest.

>>16604344
it happens

>>16604344
Same, I hope things go better for you, anon.

>>16603997
yeah go on.

The DL1000 V Strom lookslike a really good bike for me to buy.

>>16604242
Is there an equivalent of this color rite in europe?

>>16604398
any non-shit acrylic aerosol, ask your local auto parts store on quality paints

>>16604497
your local auto parts store will most likely not carry any quality paints

Hi /dbt/ I'm at the phone store
Niggers

>>16604604
Quality post

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>>16604604

ok

Tiger 955i or V Strom 1000?

I am determined to become an adventure fag.

Anyone have material like practice tests to use for the CHP classes and/or DMV written test?

>>16604588
Your local non-shit auto parts store. Don't you have any?

>>16604730
Look it up online, there're practice tests that have all the questions from the actual test. I don't remember what the site was, but it was like the first one on google a year back. Also, you can go by the DMV and ask for study material and they'll give you a whole handbook.

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>tfw too manlet to ride a KLR

>>16604762
I'm 182cm and I have trouble too

>>16604161
>All this jealousy

You're going to stand out on a motorcycle regardless, so you might as well make it look nice to you. It's not like a car where you blend in by default. You are a minority, on any given road you are probably the only motorcycle, and if there is another motorcycle it's probably going to be a radically different one, and you and the other rider are going to be wearing distinct gear.

Bikes aren't for socially awkward, anxious betas who fear recognition and criticism (not even the ones who mask that by shitting on anyone who doesn't blend in). Those people are better served by 10 year old black "luxury" sedans with cloth seats.

>>16603964
Don't bitch about Ibuprofen until you've had to take Dilaudid.

>>16604767
>I'm 182cm
That's still kinda short.

>>16604788
That's well above average. I'm 170.

>>16604788
>t. dane

>>16604788

>182cm
>That's still kinda short.
>still kinda short.
>kinda short.
>short.
>short

fuck

162cm, 55kgs here.

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>>16604762
>>16604767
Why can't you touch the ground though?
i am 178cm and i can still touch the ground no worries on bikes that are taller than a KLR is

>>16604028
how many km?
literally you should have fixed a lawnmower before buying it.
Change the jets you useless fuck

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>>16604093
>I should come here more often asking for advice, it would have saved me a lot.

you did, remember?

we told you not to buy an RS250 for a first bike because you would spend more time fixing it than riding it and only an expert would be able to extract it's positives.

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>>16604028
spark plugs fouling is not hard to prevent holy shit you are pathetic

>>16604028
you could just not mix the fuel at 30:1 and you won't foul spark plugs every 5km.

>>16604114
>bike won't run
>lol should i get it painted

>>16604770
>jealous
>of mental illness
Nah

I'm considering picking up my Dad's old 1985 Yamaha Virago 750. The only damage is a dent in the gas tank, and it's been sitting in his garage for almost two decades. Would it be worth restoring and repairing?

>>16604852
>sitting in his garage for almost two deades
It is completely fucked.
the entire inside of the engine will be rusty.

a motorcycle in storage needs to be started at the least monthly and it needs to be allowed to heat up completely to eliminate any condensation that has built up inside the engine.
otherwise they rust from the inside out.

>>16604865
Youre retarded
>>16604852
Any bike is worth restoring

>>16604872
How am i retarded?
Engines rust internally when left in storage, it is a very well known fact of owning any type of engine.

>>16604865
He opens the garage door once every two years if that matters. It hasn't been exposed to anything but temperature changes. I live in Northern California so it's not especially humid either.
>>16604872
I was more asking if restoring it would be worth the money I'd have to put into it, versus just buying a whole new bike or buying a car for my dd.

>>16604344
I sometimes feel like I should just kill myself, but then I figure I can do that whenever I want and put it off for a while. Been procrastinating for over half my life now, not sure how to feel about that. I wouldn't even describe myself as unhappy per se, just mostly unsatisfied and directionless; a normie without a cause, if you will.

>tfw paradoxically too safety-concerned to just wheelie away my feelies

All things considered I'm not really afraid of dying so much as I am of being painfully crippled or dying in a drawn out and painful way. An airplane could fall on me or I could head-on an 18-wheeler and be turned into chunky salsa and die happy but if I became quadriplegic or comatose and became [even more of] a burden on my family I would literally rather be dead. /anon'sfaggybloghour

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>>16604885
Ive pulled out bikes from decades in storage, changed oil, and cleaned carb.
Fire right up.
In fact my grandpa just did this too with an iron engine from 1903 or some shit thats been sitting outside for nearly 100 years.
Fuck off retard

>>16604895
Anyone else remember when cb400 anon pulled his bike out of storage after 3 years and it blew up after like 10 hours of riding?

>>16604901
How did he manage that?
I know those old bikes had oiling issues

>>16604904
was a dirt bike iirc and the main bearing on the crank exploded due to being rusty or something

>>16604917
Highly doubt that something bathed in oil rusted

>>16604929
don't they rust because they aren't being bathed in oil when they are sitting for long periods of time?

>>16604939
Its extremely unlikely.

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Whatcha lads drinking tonight?

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>>16604943
It is extremely likely, they rust internally for the same reason fuel tanks rust when they are left without fuel in them.

>>16604968
Thats aluminum m8
Also fuel tanks rust because fuel isnt covering the surface.
Oil coats a surface and sticks.
Grade school stuff guys. Cmon

>>16604950
the realization that I'm not a nobike.

>>16604974
m8 what do you think every single part inside the aluminum case is made of?
ya know... the gears... the bearings... the everything...?

>pull bike out to clean for riding season
>chain is a little rusty
>WD40 and penetrating oil
>still rusty
REEEEEEEEE

>>16604983
You mean all the stuff covered in oil?

>>16604820
>>16604830
Just ask any other rs250 owner, they're like that, made to be driven hard.
>>16604832
The bike mixes the fuel, not me

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>>16604950
whats up mane

>>16604996
You killed her m8

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>>16604950
Meh

>>16604993
only the bottom of the engine is getting oil on it if the bike is not being started, or are you trying to say you fill an engine to the brim with oil before storage?

>>16604995
what?
what part of riding it hard involves fouling the plugs?
Riding it hard should prevent the plugs from fouling, I've owned many 2t bikes. How are you so clueless?

>>16605005
You dont know how oil works do you?

>>16605007
That is exactly what I said, I am a beginner biker and idk if I should drive slow and let the spark plugs foul and I'll have to stop frequently to clean them, or if I should take the risk and drive moderately hard. Is it hard to keep control of the bike?

>>16605022
Always ride 2 strokes at high rpm

>>16605007
NOT riding it hard is what fouls the plugs he means.

anon you just have to rev it a bit to clean out the plugs every once in a while, take it through a gear or just rev it a few times

>>16605022
blip it for ten minutes when it's warming up
always rev out the revband, don't let it hit the red
go to a smaller jet size because clearly yours are fouling, try 260/270 if yours are stock at the moment
2t is far simpler to deal with than 4t

>>16605022
the smart thing to do would be sell it and buy something more suited to a beginner, a 2 stroke race bike with a plate isn't really a great first bike

>>16605011
I think you are a very confused individual yes.

>>16605035
>2t is far simpler to deal with than 4t
>as he explains why anon has to rejet his carb and warm his bike up for 10 minutes because plugs constantly fouling
top kek

>>16605042
Go read about how oil works. Then come talk to me.

>>16605044
as long as you're not a mouthbreathing retard you can sort a 2stroke out pretty easily

but as anon said, a 2 stroke race bike is not a good first bike. The RS250 is one of the least compromising 'street' bikes around

>>16605036
this, buy something that can deal with your retarded ass rather than a bike that needs finesse and care and experience, none of which you seem to possess.

>>16605035
Thanks, it's rare to find anons that will be useful instead of bashing me telling me how hard I will crash/how catastrophically the bike will fail.
It's gonna be nice explaining to the cops why I'm revving the shit out of that loud thing every now and then.

>>16605047
You don't seem to know how it works.
You seem to think it keep everything in the engine lubricated when it has no chance to touch 90% of the engine.

you do know we are talking about engine internals rusting when a bike has been stored for two decades without starting right?

>>16605058
>as long as you're not a mouthbreathing retard you can sort a 2stroke out pretty easily
wow it's almost like this is anon's first bike

if he got any 4 stroke, he would not be having these problems

>>16605035
>2t is far simpler to deal with than 4t
Laughing.

>>16605065
Yup. And you realize ive had engines sat for decades with oil in them and surfaces the oil had previously touched still had oil on them.
Oil doesnt just settle to the bottom like water would. It coats a surface and keeps water from sticking. Its very simple really.
Go back to grade school

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>>16605064
I'm still going to bash you for buying an RS250 as a first bike, especially with no prior 2 stroke knowledge. Blipping a 2 stroke on warmup is the first thing anybody ever learns about them.

>>16604028
pls get in baiku discord we need more shitposters

https://discord.gg/4TUUzgv

>>16605073
>no prior 2 stroke knowledge
>Blipping a 2 stroke on warmup is the first thing anybody ever learns about them.

he has no prior knowledge, why are you surprised that he doesn't know? lmao

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>>16605081
I just assumed he would have looked at a youtube video of his bike
or read up on his bike
or done anything to learn about his bike

I assumed that he didn't just buy it because he likes the way it looks

probably a bad assumption because he's a Shitalian

>>16605036
I
>>16605060
Know

Now, I just bought the damn thing, ok? I did it knowing very well what was coming at me, now I'm just trying to make it work, and it doesnt seem impossible; just very hard. I know it's a no compromise bike, but I'm a no compromise guy, I'm going to keep it and I came here to sort things out, not to hear your rants. Allyou're making me think, apart from the core concept of me having done a stupid thing (which I perfectly know), is that you're just too much of some pussies that you can't deal with shit like this so you're mad someone is more determined than you.

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>>16605072
Bullshit, if it was an old bike no doubt it did not have synthetic oil in it and everyone who knows anything about non synthetic oil knows it actually starts creating acids that only make the internals rust even faster.

>>16605099
i'm just being real with you m8, my kart has a similar 2 stroke engine and the maintenance required and finicky nature of it is not something id wanna have to deal with on an everyday bike.

they arent mechanically complicated, so if you really want to learn it wont be hard, just very time consuming. and you have to kind of learn how to figure out carb jetting and reading spark plugs or else you're gonna have a bad time

>>16605099
I'm going to stop offering you advice, learn it all yourself you fucken millennial baby

>>16605086
Well, I also know if you push it without having it warmed up first you're probably going to seize, so I wanted to avoid that more than I wanted to avoid fouled plugs. Maybe I didn't find the right balance between the two, maybe because it's the first engined thing I take care of, what do you think?

>>16605114
Refer to
>>16604895
And stop being retarded

>>16604986
pls help

>>16605099
>I admit I'm being retarded
>So I'm going to continue being retarded because clearly that's the best path to take
>but it's ok guys, you're just too pussy to be retarded like me

Enjoy opening the throttle mid-turn and having all ~70hp kick in like VTAK YO and high-siding into a tree because you don't know how to fucking ride, let alone ride with the care and finesse a two-stroke sportbike requires.

Here's your (You).

>>16605122
you arent going to be pushing it near hard enough to cold seize it

just make it go brrrrrring brrrrrrring for a minute before you ride it and it should be starting to get up to temp

>>16605122
cold seizing is a lot more difficult than you think
neck yourself

>>16605122
I think you should have bought a 125cc 2 stroke dirt bike first because then you would have been able to get all the knowledge you need from that.

>>16605117
I don't care about comfort nor about the difficulty/time taken to learn how to use it and live with it
>>16605120
And since when are your constant assblasted banters called "advice"?
This >>16605035 is advice, not just saying "sell it, you idiot", which I have already had enough of

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Alright dbt patrons, I'm interested in your opinions on some options I'm wrestling with in regards to replacing my old bike with something different.

I've been debating between a Yamaha Bolt C Spec, Triumph Street Cup, Ducati Scrambler Cafe Racer, and a used H-D XR1200X.

The local dealer is clearing out the bolt and letting it go cheap. The triumph and ducati are too new for big discounts, and the HD is used (albeit barely). What would you pick out of the above?

https://strawpoll.com/7x84eez

>>16604996
Feeling shit hbu
>>16605000
Pls don't be the guy to put pineapple on his pizza

>>16605190
Oh no. Gross.
I in fact dont really like this (although ACE is a top brand) but it was given to me free. So i dont wanna waste it.

>>16605129
>Enjoy opening the throttle mid-turn
Why would you do this?

>>16605170
Now you gotta be shitting me, you are so caught on bothering me with your bullshit that you find it impossible that someone took the time to tell me to change jets and ride it properly?

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>>16604028
Just ride it properly, By slow i assume the guy actually meant to say do not ride it without revving it out, make sure you actually get the revs up through the gears and when traveling at a constant speed you are better off speeding up and slowing down so you can keep the engine revving, a 2 stroke holds fuel in the bottom end of the engine before it is used, if you are constantly holding the throttle open it never has a chance to build up a considerable amount of fuel in the bottom end and it results in less lubrication meaning it could possibly fail, so all you need to do is let the bike idle every now and again followed by allowing it to rev out which will clean all the built up oil off the spark plug.

t. someone who has ridden 2 stroke bikes for over 15 years

>>16605189
Neither. They all look like the owner enjoys sucking cocks.

>>16605190
Why shitty mane?

I'm about the same 2bh

>>16605129
Maybe Im not as retarded as you, though, and I'm actually going to take my time and be aware of my riding ability to avoid "opening the throttle mid turn" (who the hell...)
More like 55, btw, that thing is old

>>16605207
I'm just disappointed that you bought such a modern classic and shitted it up with your lack of knowledge.
You could literally just google "things to know about 2 stroke bikes"
At first I wanted to give you advice but now I just hope you seize it mid-ride and fall to your death

>>16605204
>reach apex of turn
>roll on throttle
do you never do this?

>>16605245
everyone does this. not doing it results in under steer.

>>16605215
Not him but if I understood it correctly you have to revv it for 10 minutes without hitting the redline to warm it up and then when you start riding let it idle some times (how many times? only in the beginning?) and then revv it again.

>>16605233
Ah so you do admit you havent been useful at all?
>shitted it up
Fouled. Plugs. Literally just that. The rest is the previous owner's mechanic's fault who probably didnt put the fucking head gasket on.
>>16605215
This was actually useful, for example. The bike does 50kmh at the redline in first gear, so I need to be going near that speed frequently. Can a totally inexperienced guy like me handle it on my very first rides?

>>16605197
That's good. Yeah can't waste free shit.
>>16605222
Long day, every day these two weeks I've been 3-4 hrs sleep, + lady probs not gonna go in2 deets.
Maybe I should get 100% wasted and run into a corn field and freeze overniht

>>16605252
All the times. It's a matter of balance between good lubrication and keeping the engine clean.

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>>16605252
nono, you will shatter the pistons by revving the shit out of it while cold.
blip the throttle slightly on warm up, once warm you will need to rev it near the red line to clear any built up oil off the spark plugs.

webm related is cleaning the spark plug on my 300 after letting it warm up by blipping the throttle, only takes 4-5 flicks of the throttle to completely clear it and that is running the fuel at a 30:1 ratio.

>>16605262
>>16605262
you don't have a choice. You either handle it or the bike eats shit. they like to be wound out.

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>>16605222
That would not be my first choice for a night of fun.

>>16605283
big trev stop giving advice to this shitposter
let him fuck his bike and then come back and tell us again about how his rs250 is broken

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>>16605283
webm of warm up blips

>>16603742
>fast food

undisciplined fat fucks, the lot of yous

>>16605245
No, why would I want to risk to crash? I only accelerate far after the apex.

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>>16605204
that's where you open it though.

You don't roll on and accelerate but you crack the throttle a bit before halfway through the turn, this stops the deceleration of engine braking for the exact midpoint of the turn where you're not really accelerating or braking (nice equal load on the tyres) then you roll on as you pick the bike up and exit.

The two most dangerous points of the turn in terms of likelihood to crash are halfway through trailbraking, and the exact moment you first crack the throttle (but don't accelerate).

that's why a nice and gentle throttle response off idle is desirable on a motorcycle (but you can also temper a sharp one with some rear brake).

>>16605262
>>16605233
Also, if I did rev it to avoid fouling, I would have probably fucked it up for good since it seemed to me as if coolant was reaching the cylinder.
>>16605299
>be an asshole like me
I told you I already understood about 9000 posts ago that you mean to tell me I should sell the bike, but I'm not going to, just get over it. See how all >>16605300
>>16605292
>>16605283
>>16605215
>>16605132
>>16605035
these people understood I want to learn how to ride my bike and gave their help? See how you did nothing but being an asshole?

>>16603792
>autism

>>16605279
How the fuck can you let a race bike idle in the middle of a race?

>>16605267
Sounds pretty shitty bruh, maybe get wasted but don't go get lost in a cornfield

Anime is fucking gay but Bakuon is p dope t.b.h.

>>16605334
You don't. That's why if you race frequently, the engine wont last long.

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>>16605333

>>16605319
slowfag detected

>>16605248
>he literally thinks you will have zero traction if you don't follow Keith Code's cornering """""""""""""""""""""""bible""""""""""""""""""""""" 100% of the time

>>16605283
Oh, so you revv it to redline fo 5 times after you warmed it up? And then let it idle each now an then?

>>16605335
ojk man do you know if beres produce honey around nwo

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>>16605189
Awwwww shit, we neck and neck with the brit and jap bikes.

Honestly surprised that any of you responded.

>>16605367
Nah not until spring, the hives should have some in it to sustain them through winter tho

>>16605329
I simply brake earlier and maintain the throttle throughout the entire corner, I'm not a fucking racer on the track.
>>16605353
Better not crash than thinking you're street rossi.

>>16605337
Anime is great and bakuon sucks dicks.

>>16605396
>t. harleycuck

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>>16605383
that's the whole point of going to the track though, to go fast and work on your skills.

>>16603916
guy martin has said this, i like him more.

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>>16605438
guy martin talks about having a cheeky wank in just about every show he has done

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>>16605414
Yeah, well, I can do that on the road as well over time, haven't even had my first season yet.
Not saying I wait for the corner to be finished but I sure as hell won't open the throttle near the apex.
>>16605404
Bakuon is the epitome of shit moe shows.
If you think anime sucks you need to watch more than 5 anime, friend.

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>>16605445
>go for a ride on the ol' motabike, come 'ome
>'ave a bru and a wank
>'sall you need, now, innit?

>>16605456
>hasn't ridden for one season
>thinks he knows how to corner
You're new.

Shut the fuck up and realize what you don't know.

>>16603928
jesus you must look like such an autistic faggot riding on the street like a fucking rossi pucci

>>16605493
Never said I know how to corner best. Considering I never had a problem in shit temperatures on the touge I can safely say I know how to corner safely.
>listen kid you better fucking start opening the throttle right after the apex or you won't be riding correctly, understood?
Fuck off.

>>16605189
Have you sat on any of them anon?

>>16605517
Post tendies fag

You should be WOT as soon as you possibly can on a bike. This means opening the throttle asap without missing your apex or running wide.

>>16605527
Not him. But
>street riding
>wide open throttle
>apexing
>tendies
Kys

>>16605456
>Bakuon is the epitome of shit moe shows.
>If you think anime sucks you need to watch more than 5 anime, friend.
I'm just talking shit m8
I'm not into animu at all, but bikes are cool and shit so I'm giving it a shot. But yeah, so far it's very fan-servicey and cheesy, but it seems to have nailed the whole untangible love for bikes feeling that got me into the hobby in the first place

>>16605527
>You should be WOT as soon as you possibly can on a bike
Use a trip so that I can never follow your advice.

>>16605525
Haven't sat on the Harley.

I like the skinniness of the Duc and Triumph, but I'm not really sold on the straight up seating feel of the Triumph. The Bolt has more of a lean that you'd expect and fits the lean I'm used to.

I'm looking for something all year round and have never had a belt drive bike to not have to worry about lubing a chain in wet weather.

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>>16605536
Try this.

>>16605539
>going fast is about corner speed and not how much drive-out-of-corner you get
lmao no

>>16605533
>t-tendies are a meme
cantturn detected.

>>16605554
>>going fast
Who wants to go fast? Would you tell your kid who just learnt how to ride a bicycle to go as fast as he can?
You're fucking autistic, m8.

>>16605578
we all want to go fast
if we didn't want to go fast we wouldn't buy sport bikes
fuck off gramps

cruiser faggots need to fuck off

>>16605583
>we

>>16605578
>implying fast isn't the basis for all safe riding techniques
You're just making excuses because you're slow.

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>>16605587

>>16605554
Refer to
>>16604186

NEW

>>16605626
>>16605626
>>16605626
>>16605626
>>16605626