/ORG/

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http://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/cto/5927475362.html

I tried, really I did... But I'm back on my shit.

>>16451446
SFAs reign superior.

>>16451489
ive seen that cruiser on mud.
undercarriage is incredibly rusty, no holes or anything but its over the line for me.

>>16451523
well that is undebatable but that doesnt stop people from shitposting about it

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just wanted to share this with you lads.

Love this dudes pics/fj

http://1985zcar.tumblr.com/tagged/me

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Posting here as well in case anyone missed it
http://watracing.com/?product=off-road-general

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bout to take this thing offroad

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>>16451887

>>16451523
>>16451571
Why all the IFS hate? I dun get it

Pls no get too deep into these points because as OP stated:
>a bit of sfa vs ifs shitposting but luckily it was kept to a minimum
>pls keep to a minimum
pls no bully

>>16451953
Rock climbing, mainly. Flexing and also just clearing areas that some IFS doesn't allow for because you can't flex over rocks or through ditches.

>>16451523
Not unless you're doing a sand jumper or smooth trail runner.

>>16451953
>SFA
Better for Crawling as you get more flex, more durable construction, and there's never a spot on the truck lower than the axles.

Downside is that to gain more travel, the truck must be higher off the ground, making it more top-heavy and unstable.

>IFS
Better for Prerunning because the two front wheels can independently drive over uneven sand terrain without sending the truck into a barrel roll. Long Travel suspension has the advantage of having loads of travel without making the truck much taller

Downside is that these trucks can easily bottom out if one or both front arms are at full compression, so they're no good for more aggressive crawling.


Bear in mind that both setups can do both Prerunning and Crawling, and it's only once you get into the more extreme circumstances that one overtakes the other in its respective terrain.

Discussion's over.

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>>16452088
yeah but the best thing about solid axles is the travel, just not UP travel, solid axles can have 3 times as much down travel then up, making the vehicle sit lower, be more stable and able to droop into obstacles, and over all be more safe.

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>>16448288
>a cool guy was talking about planning a trip
Weed in a 15ml vial should keep it smellproof and keep in the moisture. I can also make a makeshift pipe with tin foil and a metal fork so you don't need to bring "paraphernalia". I personally don't like weed either but at least you can "drive" on low doses of weed instead of alcohol. Also as you mentioned - space saving is a bonus.

Also, if your phone dies, you can just charge it. I also can't just go outside and hatchet the cables so we go "oops our phone died". It's not like it was before where if you're lost, you're truly lost.
Now, you're just "one GPS dot away from the highway" lost. Which is boring here since dirt paths travel all across mid-Ontario...

If you want to come up to Canada before April, the s n o w r o l l e r s will be fired up until then! Might be far trek for nothing to do... but c'est la vie en leafville.

>>16451446
What are those weird hooks on your bullbar for, OP? the three which one is attached to your winch hook.
Extra mounts for random items? They're way too high and thinny shopped for tow hooks.

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Some moron opened their door into mine a few days ago and now my driver's door has a crease and pretty sizable dent. I'm super bummed out. The body didn't have a single dent until then.

>>16452460
just say a rock did it

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>>16452460

>tfw you find out your favorite place to shoot and off road is now owned by a logging company and you can't go there anymore

>>16452666
Satanic Ranger?

>>16452707
Satanic Taco actually

>tfw wanting to build a bare bones frame buggy on tall skinny v treads
>Don't have the time money for a third project

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>>16452801
gief her da tacc

>>16452666
Bumper cost and manufacturer?

How are the BFs on the taco? I'd imagine It'd make the ride a bit more comfortable, too.

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>>16452801
>>16452944
Did somebody say Taco?

>>16451446
How much clutch ease do you all give on rough terrain? I run 2wd along a terrain but there's a swampland eating into the path near my friend's farm that's eating more and more into the trail. So I have to do 4wd a few times when I get stuck on a really muddy day and I'm finding myself trying gearing much lower by only easing the clutch out instead of having it fully engaged but I'm doing this for a full 10 minutes before I can fully release the clutch again.

How do I prevent clutch burn this way or is it inevitable? That mudding engine steam after I leave the swamp is really spooking me, too.

Should I just dismount and buy an ATV at this point? I don't think this is good for my clutch.

>>16453495
Buy an automagic.

>>16453495
Skip 4hi and go to 4low from the start the gear reduction alows you get going without having to slip the clutch as much.

>>16453542
This. No shame in using auto off-road

>>16453495
Also some foresight goes a long way. If you think you'll need 4wd to get through something go ahead and put it in 4wd before you head in and with a manual trans you have to pick the gear you want before you start in as shifting mid way through will cause a los of momentum and you'll end up stuck. In 4low you can get away with starting in 2nd if you want to hit it a little harder

Personally the only time I use 4hi is if I'm traveling a long stretch of sand as I can keep up a higher forward speed, for everything else there's no reason to not use 4low from the start

>>16453732
X2

It's better to overkill before you need 4lo than to realize too late that 4hi isn't enough

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>>16453732
There are a bunch of weird "trails" in Ontario that goes: Gravel >mud >rock >mud >granite >beaver dam >gravel >road.
Also in the sand dunes and beaches in central south Ontario, it goes (itgoesitgoesitgoes): sand>mud>sand>road

4H is what I am normally on if there's a lack of mud.

F R E E S P I N N I N G one wheel and
S L O W R O L L I N G

>>16453636
>>16453732
>>16453763
>>16453790
Thanks for the quick responses! I thought that we were supposed to start out in 2wd until you get stuck.

Also stupid question but since I'm h-here: Can you change to 4wd-H or 4wd-L in motion or does the stick break? I've always been too afraid of touching the stick while the car is moving forwards.

What about gravel or dirt roads on 4wd-L?

>>16453542
I would but I don't do a lot of mud or offroading and being Manuel is way too fun.

>>16453840
Generally you can switch between 2wd and 4hi while in motion but 4low you need to stop, put trans in neutral then switch into or out of 4low

Protip most 4wd vehicles have instructions on the back of the drivers side sun visor

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>>16453790
There are alot of trails here that go
>road>dirt>road>dirt>road>dirt>road>dirt>road>dirt>angery nigger telling you to get off his land>road>dirt>road>dirt

>>16453840
2wd is fine for dirt roads and such, if you're having trouble staying moving at the pace you want go ahead and use 4hi unless you want to creep then go 4low

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What does /ORG/ think of the new taco? I'm getting a new job and I'm planning on buying new with the 6 speed since I can't find any used with the manual. I have a friend with the auto off road and his only complaint is fuel economy. I've also heard some of the electronics are finicky. Also what's a good price right now? I see the off road is at dealers for 37k (in AZ).

Edit: looked at truecar and found one used 2016 but the rest just show all the new dealer cars

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>>16452969
it's a relentless fab bumper, I got the weld-it-yourself kit for 600 shipped I think. me and a buddy welded it. Pretty happy with the tires only had them a little over a month now but there was a noticable power loss because they're basically 33x10.5

>>16453957
Too many electronic gizmos attached to the 4x4 system

>>16454014
Do they really cause problems or is that just a personal niggle?

>>16453973
>noticable power loss from 33s
Dem highway gears

>>16454028
Personal opinion, but the more systems there are the higher probability of failure. Doesn't seem worth it just for something like crawl control or the like

As far as I'm concerned there shouldn't be any electronics involved in the 4wd

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>>16451722
Glorious

>>16454071
Hey anon.
Do you like electronic E-Brakes? That's why they're called "E-Brakes" tho, right? For "electronic"?

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>>16452658
what county you in Washington anon? that stump with sticks on top looks familiar

>>16453957
Crawl Control is magic but you can't permanently turn Traction Control off unless you pull the right fuses

>>16453957
Crawl control is magic if you're a complete fucking noob and have no idea what you're doing. To anyone that has a general sense of how not to lose traction or at least how to regain traction, it's really not useful. It's like auto throttle, brake, and steer in Forza. If you really need those handicaps, then you don't use them often enough to justify paying more for them.

You're talking about buying an off road edition and planning on 4x4, why would you want the manual with that? The automatic is objectively better.

You want the vehicle to control throttle and brake but you want to shift? I'd rather control the throttle and brake myself and let the computer shift.

>>16454094
>electronic e brake
That sounds like a terrible idea.

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Snow snow and more snow. Truck is now saltier than McDonalds Fries. Good thing my truck is coated in oil from my cooler line leak...
Which reminds me I really should fix that...

Since the holiday is over do I take the antlers down, or do I keep running the Rudolf Diesel meme? Thoughts?


>>16452658
Know the feels anon. Most everything where I am is locked down tight. There was an abandoned railroad right of way I would always wheel on but the Sierra club monsters turned it into fucking bike paths

>>16451722
Ordering tonight

>>16453957
My friend owns one. It's a good truck, but not my cup of tea. Too many electronic gizmos.

>>16451581
Good god that is more 80s than parachute pants and aquanet. I love it!

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>>16454778
>dat LTD

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>>16452658
Yeah shitty deal, there's a huge abandoned gold mine out here that I've spent a lot of time exploring and rippin' around at over the last 2 years, it was a very popular spot for off-roaders for a very long time. Some fairly new mining company has set up shop there for the foreseeable future, the entire mountain road is locked down now, was really looking forward to bring Big Red there for the first time this summer.

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>>16453957
I was at Sycamore Creek in AZ today and we had a TRD Taco in our group. It preformed great, but his wife said she got a headache because of how stiff the suspension was. I was in a 15 year old F150 with my wife and dog were fine. I would look into the stiff suspension and would highly recommend Sycamore Creek.

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Anybody drive a Suzuki Samurai?
Seems like a fun thing to drive.

>>16455088
It's like a Wrangler but without the decent drivetrain and suspension.

>>16455088
this guy: >>16442363

>>16455015
>wife
i hope youre talking about a body pillow of taylor swift friendo

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>>16455475
Hush anon. Don't objectify my waifu.

>tfw
>ranger in shoppe until Friday
>might not get winch bumper back for another 1-2 months again
>still have to put up with my fucking Nissan R52 in the meantime
Relying on a very limited arsenal of images from my Ranger to get me through the recourse.

>tfw cancelled oberlanding night this week we've been planning for a month

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>>16454071
>>16454237
>>16454321
>>16454778
>>16455015
mirin' that 4runner

I am an /org/ noob. I just want a 4x4 to go hiking with friends and take my mountain bike up to trails. I have no idea how to do serious four bying though it does sound fun and something I'd like to try. The reason for the manual is because this will also be my dd and I want to drive a stick so bad after having my shitbox auto elantra from college for so long. Would I be better off with the sport or the sr5 instead?

>>16456113
If you're spending that much money anyway there's no reason not to get the 4x4. Even if it's purely for the higher resale value

>>16455706
>waifu
>3d
pick one

>Don't objectify my waifu.
w e w

I kind of want to see an /ORG/ Meet-up.... just has to go better than that dashcon bullshit.

>>16459239
Proplem is everyone is too spread out

Couldn't really do it without most people having to drive half way across the country

>>16459239
I've been wanting a San Diego meetup since like November

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>>16459239
seems like most everyone here is into it
were all really far apart tho

>>16452250
canada is definitely on my list at some point, same with alaska
would love to be able to take a few months off and just do all of it at once
not in the cards right now unfortunately.

>>16459990
Then we should have an east coast and west coast meetups. PA is a great place to have a meet up since we have Rausch creek off road park, with plenty of camping on site...

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>>16460768
West Coast meetup in Vegas & then we wheel Death Valley!

>>16460809
n-no. not allowed bc id be t-too jelly

>>16460809
I think a Joshua Tree meet would be a fun meet if we're in that area

With a $4500. Budget what should i look at if i want to dd and do offroad things as well?

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>>16460768
>>16460809
Midwest meetup when?

Silver lake sand dunes and Upper Peninsula Oberlanding

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>>16461377
BTW I may or may not have committed to our Stickers

>>16461377
PLEASE

>>16459676
>>16459692
>>16459990
CONVOY! Join up as we go. Deuce-gal here. If I could drive my Deuce from the Missouri farm to Florida, we can totally do a convoy. I'm in.... but only if tay agrees to join.

>>16461706
if you plan on passing through the southeast at any point im in.
/ORG/ is about traveling anyway. its about getting out into the woods and avoiding pavement. ITS ABOUT FUCKING ADVENTURE

(sorry im kind of drunk)

>>16451446
What does /org/ think of the possibility of the new Bronco and Ranger?

Pls don't be like the international Ranger. We already have the exploder pick up and the Grand Cherokee for that mishap...................

>>16461843
I wouldn't mind seeing the Bronco come
back. At least then the Raptor won't be Ford's only off-roader

>>16461843
It's going to be the global Ranger and the Bronco will be a rebadged Everest.

Thank Obama and globalism.

>>16461706
>deuce-gal

...trap?

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>>16461706
Convoy!
TFW my truck is practically set up for convoy comms but have nobody to convoy with

>>16461843
Isn't there a Brazilian Bronco everyone got their hopes up for a few years back? I hope it is like that, and not a lackluster global crossover...

>>16451581
>"fj"
Lol

>>16461843
And what is wrong with the global Ranger?
>>16462707
Bronco will be built on a Ranger platform. Whether it's going to be the previously mentioned Everest rebadge (itself a damn nice SUV, and what the Exploder should've been) or a retro style rebody on said platform (ala FJ Cruiser on a global Prado platform) remains to be seen.

>>16461843
>Pls don't be like the international Ranger
it will be exactly that.

and like this >>16461935 anon said, the raptor will be a rebadged everest.

>>16463061
>everest
>a damn nice SUV
its a fucking unibody crossover with ifs m8
dont get me wrong, it's more capable than the explorer (ever so slightly) but to call that thing anything to be excited about is a joke

>>16462075
Maybe, maybe not. What matters is the fact that I have mechanical advantage to tow you out of any hole.

>>16463306
>its a fucking unibody crossover
It isn't, you fucking idiot. It's a ladder frame pickup chassis regardless of front end suspension geometry.
That's like calling the current 3/4ton Silverado a crossover you retard.

And it's still an extremely capable chassis regardless.

>>16463610
be nice to him anon pls dont forget where you are.

you are right though, it could be a direct competitor to current 4runners. if i were in the market i would be comparing them.

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>>16462707
>tfw I have a radio set up but nobody else in my group has a radio so I can only sit and talk to myself

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>>16463306
Is the international Ranger the same body and chassis as the Explorer pickup. I'm also sure that the Exploder pickup has filled the void of an "alternative pickup" left by the discontinuation of the 5th gen NA Ranger.

I still don't get why they discontinued the Ranger after the first year of rebound sales (2011 sold a lot more than 2010). Especially it being that iconic. I mean, the Dodge Viper had to dip down the 4 digit sales before they discontinued the "iconic" model. And it was in production for much less time than the Ranger.

On the Bronco, I heard some guy on Normiebook say something reasonably correct: "If the top comes off the Bronco, they wouldn't be able to make enough of them. If it's a one piece , then they'll just be gorging the crossover market with another body that won't be able to handle it." rephrased.

>>16463610
>>16463980
just buy a samurai you dumb faggot
you can get one in decent condintion for like 2k you retarded poorfag
they have huge aftermarket support so you can mod it from there kys i hate you

>>16464819
Use it to do speech > text and post on 4chan remotely with it.
Also
>he's the type of guy who hangs out radio shack every saturday night
>no hambuddies
>why even live

>>16464920
I saw that. It was;
>if the top doesn't come off, they'll sell ten
>if the top comes off they won't be able to make enough

IMO the new bronco looks like a goddamn concept car. Not in a good way.

>>16464920
>kys
End your fucking life you worthless pile of newfag garbage. Go get your goddamn ipod stolen and become an hero you fucking inbred useless normalfag retard.

>>16464956
You mean the same Bronco concept that's been floating around for a decade? I doubt they're putting that old concept into production.

>>16464956
Lmao. I'm glad you saw the same thing.
I wonder if that guy knew the implications of "if the top doesn't come off / if they do" and how it would affect the body.

>>16464969
Goteeeeeem >>16442363

>>16464920
>Is the international Ranger the same body and chassis as the Explorer pickup
No. It isn't you fucking imbecile. That generation of Explorer wasn't a unibody crossover anyway AS IT WAS BASED ON THE NORTH AMERICAN RANGER.
The international Ranger has always been its own platform.
Get a clue before you get an opinion and stop taking vague references of Facebook as gospel. There's a place for a new Bronco the same way there was for the FJ Cruiser.
>just buy some irrelevant example you dumb faggot
You really are lowest common denominator.

>>16463605
I want to be in your holes ;)

>>16465122
taytay butthole?

>>16465122
>>16465165

>>16448493

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>>16465081
I thought the Explorer sport was its own weird design when the Explorer was on the Ranger platform. It made no sense to me why they were selling the exploder trucks at the same time as the Rangers if that were the case. Sorry :T

The only thing we were trying to state with the Bronco was that we hoped it was on the truck platform and doesn't come out as a unibody like some of the modern SUVs. FJ Cruiser is a good example of that.


Also
>tries to link to the last "tough love mean" niceposting on the last /org/
>gets called "lowest common denominator"
>tfw no one gets your esoteric shitpost bants

>>16464920
I'm actually curious too why did they discontinue the ranger when the taco is doing so well

>>16465261
CAFE/Safety standards that Ford and many other truck makers didn't want to deal with.

late 90's killed the small truck.

>>16464928
I may or may not just tune mine into police frequencies to listen in since I have nothing better to do. Rumor has it theyre gonna switch to the 800mhz band so I would need another radio to listen again. It would also mean a new antenna up on the antenna farm atop the truck.

>>16464819
All the more reason to join the convoy!

>>16463605
Do you have a recovery Deuce and a half?
>Dat crane and 40,000lb winch for recoveries

>>16465202
Supposedly the new Bronco is confirmed to be Body on frame...

If it means anything the head hauncho on the Bronco development team has a 1979 Bronco and "Loves it just the way it is"

God I hope Ferd doesn't fuck this up like they most likely will...

I don't know about you guys but I'm sick of tired of being ignored by the automakers. And if the bloated prices of the used market are an indicator of me not being alone in my feelings something has gotta give eventually...

Checking out the 4x4 section on Craigslist, not sure what to get. I don't want to get a cherokee or other Jeep, my brother has one, but I cannot deny the wrangler.

What can I do for say, 2 grand in tax money? I can up the price but cheaper is better. Pretty much just light offroading (long, muddy farm driveways) and snow driving are my goals.

I'd hate to get a Jeep and just "blend in" with everyone in my area, if that makes sense. But it is what it is

>>16465202
Wait, are you confusing the terminology "unibody" in reference to the difference between a removable bed cap and a fixed roof design? If that's the case, I'd still favour a fixed roof that's able to bare a significant load in the way of a roof rack system over a novelty removable roof.
Id like to see in essence what the new FJ Cruiser was, with a Ford badge and a V8 (with the 5 cylinder diesel Ranger engine as an option).

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>>16465784

>>16465846
There's actually one for sale by the farm next to me lol.

I wanted something smaller just to put back and forth and maybe haul smash things in the snow and honestly the wrangler would be perfect, so either that or a clean suzuki samurai or geo tracker, something in that vein

>>16466331
Wranglers are terribly overpriced. For what you'd pay for a Samurai or Tracker you could easily have something far more comfortable and reliable that you could also DD if needed.

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>>16465784
I got my 93 dodge for $1,000
>5.9 Magnum auto

Paid $2,000 for my 84
>225 slant six and np435 4speed

First gen rams are cheap and good

>>16466485
>good
I don't know about all that.

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>>16466513
The only big problem I've found is the fusible links which are easily bypassed if they do burn out. Baring that they have no more problems than 20+ year old Chevys and fords

Plus they kept the solid d44 front longer than Ford or gm

>>16466419
What's a good compromise of 4x4 and empty g's if I needed to dd a truck or some such?

>>16466738
Anything that's not a light 4 cylinder or diesel is going to get shit mpgs. The sooner you accept this the easier your choice becomes

One exception is having tall gearing in the axles but this is counterintuitive to off-roading and larger tires

>>16466738
I DDd a Suburban on 37s before I tore it down for the SAS. Even with a shit part time job I was never hurting for gas or food. I'd worry more about purchase price and capability than fuel economy. If it'll do better than 12 around town and better than 15 on the highway and does everything you need to at a good price I'd say that's worth what you're paying in fuel, which really isn't much more than what people are paying in fuel for much smaller, shittier trucks and SUVs. A reliable platform can more than offset the difference in fuel costs for most people.

>>16466777
In real world usage the I4 mini trucks are often worse on gas and less reliable than the same truck with a V6 because the engine has to be run a lot harder to get the same amount of work out of it. Same holds true for V6 vs V8 fullsize trucks in the work fleet.

>>16464920
>just buy a samurai you dumb faggot
>you can get one in decent condintion for like 2k you retarded poorfag
>they have huge aftermarket support so you can mod it from there kys i hate you
w-what

>>16466833
He was making a niceposting joke using this >>16442363 as a reference. At least I think. Taytay who hurt you today?

>>16466927
is that a new ebin /org/ maymay?
im not taytay but thanks for explaning <3

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>>16466777
>>16466792
I actually found a land rover for my price range, really nice looking. Is there an /org/ faq on these?

I only know they went through some different manufacturers, is that 97 a good year?

>>16467029
I know they look like a can of smashed buttholes, that's about as far as my knowledge goes

>>16467049
Looks like a fancier cherokee but with a v8. For some reason these are cheaper than 4runners in my area, the only thing lower are grand cherokees.

What specifically looks bad? I also get an "off" sensation looking at it but can't put my finger on it

>>16467029
Not very reliable and parts can be a bitch to find and expensive. That one appears to be lower than stock and a lot of the body lines/panel gaps don't seem to line up correctly. Could have been wrecked and rebuilt.

>>16467108
I've searched some reviews and can't really find a solid consensus, what is your basis for the judgement of the reliability?

>>16467029
Disco I's are pretty nice trucks. They can take a pretty good beating off road, and are rather capable, my dad never got stuck with his. We had some fuse box issue with ours but besides that we never really had a problem.

Parts are easy to get and not that bad price wise, more expensive than a Jeep but not too bad. There are a couple parts places in New England that specialize in Land rover parts and they have just about everything you need in stock.

>>16467188
Knowing people that own them and seeing the general consensus among make/model specific groups.

>>16467029
hoo boy
be careful with that one my man.

they are electrical nightmares and are very temp sensitive. my buddies overheated almost every time we went out. he got rid of it after a year or two because it was so unreliable

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>>16467029
Land Rover is consistently the least reliable manufacturer available in the US. Too bad because they look dope as fuck.

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>>16466927
The weather. </3

>tfw
>no duratracs on the road
>ABS more than I wanted to

>>16465839
Not that I was aware of. I'm pretty sure that was the other guy who thought the Everest was a unibody, lol, heh.

I did make the mistake of confusing the International Ranger with having similar platform or even parts on the Ranger/Exploders in North America. My bad, anon.
Pls forgief me.

>>16467029
Price?
I really like the Discos since they have rugged, hard plastic valences that protect against most rock damage as opposed to the other offroad capable models except for Defender.

Their roof strength is also ridiculously good if you've seen pictures of rollovers. I saw a picture of someone put a tent over the top and crawl in through the skylight. Then use the vehicle's heating to heat up the tent for comfy camping. That was really neat.

Otherwise, just suffers from most Land Rover flaws in terms of sourcing expensive parts and hard pressed to find some people who can communicate with the computers for a cheap fee. They're disliked a lot since it's harder to wrench on them yourself and the air suspension can be annoying to work with (tho I can't remember what the Disco suspensions were).
They're comfier than Defenders, though!

Also, I'm not even sure how you'd go about lifting these and getting larger tyres because of the way the rock guards and wheelwells are set up. It could be kinda annoying but it does have more of an "overlanding" aesthetic to it, of course.

>>16467651
>air suspension can be annoying to work with

All Disco I's and most II's don't have air suspensions. That was a Range rover thing back then. And even so, you get a coil spring conversion kit and that eliminates all suspension problems.

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>>16461706
WHOOPS. I forgot to see this.
Fo shizzle G-Deuce. I'll see if bae is willing to do a traverse down to Missouri in late April / early May and we'll get that other guy to work with on my axles (is it >>16466581
? ;). Caravan would be cute and comfy and sleeeeeeek.

>>16459990
Yeah. We want to drive through the Trans Canada highway and shower in rivers and kill duck for food in the summer. I could if I get someone to take over my biz for like 3 weeks.

I'd much rather do it in winter, though. Anchorage down to the oil wells and then down the two plains provinces and back into hometown turf. The plains and northern forests are nice for overlanding because of the clay-esque consistency of soil mixed with the enormous fields of nothing that appear. The lack of rain also makes a lack of sudden swamplands that eat your vehicle whole. That's a bonus.

See:
http://www.cp24.com/news/jeep-driver-billed-for-rescue-after-getting-stuck-in-ice-at-cherry-beach-1.3235188

>>16467664
AH YES. Now that you bring up the Range Rovers, it was the Discovery 3s and after that featured the Air Suspensions.
I remember seeing them on a Range Rover but no - it was just a modern-esque Land Rover Discovery.

>>16461297
Are you still here, anon? Sorry for missing your question.

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>>16467621
Jaguars have always been unreliable. However, now that people lease vehicles and don't own them for more than 6 years, almost every modern soccer-mom orientated car is just as unreliable.

>mercedes
>BBW
>tay yoda
>audi

Pineapple Pizza BTFO.

>>16467693
>lack of rain

Obviously never been to the west coast

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>>16467693
My Dad's Disco I was pretty damn good off road and the only thing we did to it was put a winch on the front. Can't tell you how many Jeeps and Chevys we rescued with that thing. Then we got the Defender 110 and that racked up rescues and winchings of other vehicles faster than anything else I've seen, even got to rescue a Humvee that was stuck in the mud with the Defender.

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>>16467717
This one is for sale for an affordable 100k in my area. IDGAF, it looks bitchin'

>>16467716
Er. I was describing the progression from the West coast back to my home by taking the Canadian roads (or lack of road;).

The plains provinces would be Alberta, Sask, and Manitoba and if you're on TCH 16 from Jasper National Park down to Ontario, you'll find little to no rain.

From what I hear, unfortunately, you won't be able to do a lot of actual offroading to get from point A to point B without making use of the TCH bridges. But you can for sure borrow some of the fields just north of the areas especially if you go when the average temperature is -5

>>16467717
Oh this was you? Neat.

I remember you having one of them out of operation a while back and you've recently tried to restore - how was that going?

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I just ordered some recovery gear for my taco. I should be good for front and rear recovery points now. Wheeling excite.

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>>16467801
Mine in the back. Foreground is my buddy's 06

>>16467768
I didn't read the whole thing desu. Sask has fuck all for wheeling and scenery, just get through it.

>>16467651
>I did make the mistake of confusing the International Ranger with having similar platform or even parts on the Ranger/Exploders in North America. My bad, anon.
Pls forgief me.
Ah, fair enough. AFAIK they've shared a few commonalities over the years, such as 3 valve Mazda four cylinders, Cologne V6s and Ford 8.8" rear ends, but there's nothing really interchangeable.
Make no mistake, they're purpose built midsize trucks, and the 3.2 five cylinder diesel in them these days is an absolute gem.

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>>16467029
TFW When it breaks down you can signal passing airplanes for help

https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/5947125902.html
what do you guys think of this? I'm somewhat inexperienced but I'm looking for something good for driving through snow

Too many anons to link back to buy thanks for the better view on the land rover. Seems like any other car after reading all that and looking online, take care of it and don't be stupid and it'll treat you alright, nobody out and out says it's an absolute hunk of shit.

I might not specifically aim for one, but I'll keep an eye out if a good deal comes along, a lot of the interiors on these look great. Would make 10/10 car camp material.

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>mild snowstorm turns to rain at 8o'clock.
>no duratracs to crunch snow
>manage to take the Nisshit R52 with 26s out to the hydrolines
>s l o w r o l l i n g crunching the wet snow
>mfw sounds of crunching packed snow
>mfw spinning dirt from the recent meltoff
>mfw splashing large puddles in the sand lots around the maintence sites
>mfw splashing slush puddles higher than the vehicle on the drive back home.

>>16467841
I suppose they do what they set out to do. And that's really all you can ask of them. Plus apparently they get amazing gas mileage, too.

Meep. I would LOVE the sound of an I-5 Diesel in the new Ranger, though. I miss my old Colorados' I-5 humm so much.

>>16467825
I hear if you go largely up north, there aren't as many marshes so you can actually go drift around on the large areas of crown land. But near the TCH, shit's damp and farmers.

>>16468029
It is because of the roofing option. Make sure to get a sunroof so that you can crawl into the roof tent from the cab and have a two story bunker camper.

What was the price for the disco you mentioned?

>>16467972
$3800 is pretty expensive for an XJ but it looks to be build up pretty well and the guy knows what he's doing. If you can get him down to $3000, that may be a good buy.

If you're inexperienced with S N O W R O L L I N G , and you buy this, you won't be inexperienced for long!

>>16468058
>go up north

Or just go through it and find better terrain in every other province

>>16468067
>not going larping as an ice road trucc'r unnecessarily

Yeah, that's actually a fair point. For some reason, I went full defensive mode when he said Saskatchewan a shit.

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If theres any other tacomafriends on here in SoCal I'm going to a big all-Tacoma meet at Superstition on the 20th and 21st.

Figured I'd post here because the more the merrier, and 60 Tacos jumping around ought to be fun

>>16468058
>>16467972
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5947385591.html
also this one too. miles are kinda high and it's the v8. I've heard the 6 cylinder is a lot more reliable

>>16468099
Do they allow Cannies/Lorados, Kotas, or Rangers? What about IH Scouts cropped?

>>16468058
>dat gif
Jesus fucking Christ.
I'm going to fap to your waifu and there is nothing you can do about it.

>>16468058
The pictured disco I had was 2450 obo

>>16468131
We try to keep it Yota with visitors, so Runnies and Tundies are fine

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>>16467717
Lub that center Defender BTW. I want to emulate that in my oberland build.

>>16465846
Can you get a decent 6.5 for 2 grand nowadays? I thought they were still going for like 5 or 6k...

>>16466331
If you're looking for a Wrangler, Yellow YJ was looking to sell his a while back. Unsure on the current status or price tho. Good luck finding a Wrangler for less than 2k...

>>16466485
>Penis hardens
Next truck I get will be from this era.

>>16466738
Diesel is the way to go. I'm able to get 20MPG with my 6.5 if the mood is right. I've got a 4.10 rear end too...

>>16466792
I agree!
BTW, what are you using to daily? I'm assuming you're topkick handles guy?

>>16467029
I actually almost went that route. I was looking for the right one. Too mad the diesel one never made it stateside.

>>16467882
Kek. I shouldn't laugh though, as my driving lights need to get tightened down. They keep falling down and quickly become glorified fog lights.

>>16468058
I may or may not have had the same weather.

I may or may not have done the same thing.

I may or may not have tore up the front lawn of IHop doing hillclimbs because I must justify living in a city and owning an off road vehicle

>>16468198
Burbs not welcome then? :'(

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>>16468106
That's a ZJ.

Slightly comfier but less reliable. However, if you haggle him down to $1800, you will be able to buy two of them for the price of the XJ. People always say they break down at double the rate of the XJs but when the time comes and your ZJ breaks down, for the price, just buy another ZJ. :^)

>>16468138
I'll give you a picc of my butthole if you fap to that instead of taytay pls ;_;

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>>16468472
In all seriousness anyone can tag along, the group's policy is that every non-Tacoma driver needs to be accompanied by a host driver who does have a Tacoma.

>>16470040
Do you think I can get a Taco grill to insert in the front of my Ranger?

I tried finding a big enough Chevrolet bowtie to put over the back of my tailgate "ford" oval once, too. The put a Ram's head over the back window.

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>>16470118
You could probably take one off of a '98-00 style first gen since it's shaped more like the grille on a Ranger. You'll have to do some trimming and retrofitting but I'd imagine it could be done.

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>>16466581
please bring the back up the level - airbags might be perfect for this!

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>>16468472
how hard is it to swap a 6.5TD into a 6.2 NA square body? electrically speaking more so than mechanical... I would be surprised if it didn't just more or less bolt in?

>>16470040
Sounds like you and your buttbuddies are a bunch of pretentious assholes

>>16470652
It is level

When that pic was taken there was a fully dressed 5.9 Magnum v8 in the bed

>>16470786
>gen 1/ gen 2 tacoma
>is pretentious
choose one

Also, there are common Jeep meetings that happen everywhere and they do it so people have something to talk about.

>>16470695
It is literally a bolt in. While I don't want to speculate on electrics without being able to give you a 100% accurate answer, I would be surprised if wiring was much more than getting the dash instrument cluster to work with the new motor. There may be ancillary systems like a glow plug circuit to worry about, although this can be overcome with either a push button setup or an aftermarket timing module.

Interesting to note the 6.5 diesels turbo or otherwise are a common conversion into Landcruisers and Nissan Patrols in Ausfaggot land.

>>16470846
>Brand exclusive club
>Not pretentious

>>16470786
We do that so we can't be outnumbered by non-Tacomas

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>>16470936
Exclusion is not always exceeded by a pretentious intent. Pretentiousness normally comes when the exclusion has tighter restrictions upon its membership either in scarcity, cost, or location.

Jeep CJ-5s and older meet-ups can be pretentious. Jeep meet-ups are normally not. Bentley meet-ups can be pretentious. Fox-body and old Camaro meet-ups are normally not.

The average man can and a lot of the time do buy Jeeps and TayYodas. This is what prevents them from being "pretentious".

Who the hell is showing off their taco or ranger to get chicks or boipucci, anyway?

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/city-of-halifax/1994-suzuki-samurai-turbo/1222438139?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

What do you guys think of this?
I spoke to the guy on the phone today and he said he could do 7 at the very minimum, he had to pay for importing which was 1500 and still wants to make a buck I guess.

How are these rigs? Everything on google seems unreliable

>>16472080
boi he bout to do it
>>16466833
>>16442363

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>>16472080
>drops $2000 over a phone conversation with you
>very minimum
Also regarding the "importing", he should know that those kinds of fees are just things you eat because you want the specific vehicle and no one else does. This is the same with like adjustments and "builds". Just call him a d'weeb and make him drop it even more.

>google seems unreliable
Do you mean that Google says they're unreliable or that google itself is unreliable? For $6000, you could easily get a more capable roader or a more common (and thus probably easier to maintain) Samurai of the same price.

Plus how silly will you look putting 91 petrol into your Suzuki Samurai? Last point: automatic would probably be the deal breaker for me, desu senpai. Samurais are offroading mountain goats not luxury SUVs. Their suspension is arguably worse than the old XJs and other Wranglers. I didn't even know they made these things automagic. Though, that could be the reason why this one is so ungodly expensive.

>>16466805
Same goes for V8 vs Diesel full sized work trucks

>>16468472
Everybody loves the Defender. That things done nothing but go up in value since my dad bought it about 20 years ago. Took in on a cross country trip once, NJ down to big bend Texas, then up to Colorado, after which we headed back to NJ.

>>16467768
That depends on which Land Rover of mine your thinking of. I have a '51 in pieces that I need to assemble, my former DD the '66 IIA 109 (the far one in that pic), then my '73 which is fixed up and I'm trying to sell.

>>16472367
>everybody likes Defenders
Girls don't like Defenders

>>16472172
kek

>>16472742
wrong
they love them
even i love them and i own a toyota and think they are pieces of shit (bc they are)

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>mfw i own a 22 year old toyota and they heavily salt the roads

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>>16467693
>http://www.cp24.com/news/jeep-driver-billed-for-rescue-after-getting-stuck-in-ice-at-cherry-beach-1.3235188
heeplords btfo!!

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Went SNOWROLLING tonight. Actual county road that apparently everyone forgot about. Had to get up a 20° Slope of pure ice. Failed the first shot and slid a quarter of the way back down. 2nd try in 4x4 was the charm. I wish you anons were closer it sucks trailing alone :-(

>>16470695
Pretty much what >>16470916 said. A 6.5 turbo is a bored out 6.2 with a turbo slapped on.

A big headache for the 6.5s is the fact the turbo and more importantly the fuel injection pump are computer controlled. There are several sensors and electronic components for the injector pump that go bad, most commonly the optical sensor and the PMD driver.

After much research, there was a mechanical Injector pump offered, mainly on the Humvee and IIRC the cargo vans. People have swapped in the mechanical pump from those to circumvent these problems, but it gets complicated... and I'm still not sure if it can be done on an OBD2 motor like mine.

Not sure if that would pertain to a 6.2/6.5 swap or not...

>>16470040
I wonder if WAT racing can make up a sticker for me reading "THIS IS A TOYOTA TACOMA. I PROMISE!"

Either that or I have to drag my Taco friend around.

>Buys a TRD Taco
>Refuses it to trail or off road it

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>>16472986
As much of a Tacoma fanboi as I am, getting the TRD Off-Road is a waste of money if you never actually off road it.

It's almost like that's exactly what the TRD Sport is for

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>>16470695
Mechanical 6.5 will bolt right in. DS4 with electronic injection pump is going to be a wiring mess.

>there was a mechanical Injector pump offered, mainly on the Humvee and IIRC the cargo vans
93 C/K series had a mechanical injection pump and standalone TCM for the 80e.
>I just bought a 93 6.5/80e TCM for $20

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>>16473071
I agree. Wiring mess. Like mentioned earlier, you can swap a DS4 with a DB2, and 90% of all problems with a 6.5 are solved. The kicker is the needed TCM and getting it to talk with your PCM. I've seen it done on OBD1 trucks, but haven't heard of a OBD2 swap yet, but I admit I haven't fully researched the topic yet. I hope it can be done because I want to ditch the DS4 and the headaches associated with it. But this topic is a bit above /org haha.

>>16472367
>NJ to CO
>Cross country trip

In all seriousness it's no wonder the value goes up and up and up. They just don't make SUVs and Trucks like they used to...

Any future plans for the Defender?

>>16472926
I feel your pain. It tears the roads to shit too.

>>16473059
Couldn't agree more. In his defense he brought it brand new 6 months ago, but he didn't even off road the JK he traded in to get it. :-(

Nor does he off road his quad outside of his quarter acre back yard...

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>>16473347
>doesn't off-road his Tacoma
>doesn't off-road his quad
>didn't off-road his Wrangler

While I can't say much because that's how half of my town is, that just pains me to hear

>>16473347
>Any future plans for the Defender?

Generally Defenders just maintain their value, ours is one of 500 that were specially built for the reintroduction of Land Rover North America in 1993. They were the only 110s ever imported and sold by Land Rover in the US.

As for plans, just fix it up a little and continue driving it. Needs a clutch and the rear cross member of the frame needs to be replaced.

>>16472367
Honestly, with the issues that my friend has with his, the only way I'd get a Land Rover is if I knew someone who works on them.

On an unrelated question, how much are you selling the '73 Series II for?

>>16473394
1973 is a Series III and I'd like to get $10k for it. It's a good solid driver truck.

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>>16473347
>but haven't heard of a OBD2 swap yet
I hope I can find some info on it. I really don't want to spend the $500 for an aftermarket controller

.>>16468472
>Can you get a decent 6.5 for 2 grand nowadays?
Kind of.

>BTW, what are you using to daily? I'm assuming you're topkick handles guy?
Company truck for now, and yes.

>>16473433
Oh I thought it was the far left Series II that you were talking about. Do you have pics of the Series III? 6 or 8, diesel?

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>>16473457
This is it. A RHD 24 volt former military radio truck.

>>16473491
That's fucking sweet ride. I'd be too afraid to ding it or drive it in salt if that were the case, though. 24 volt would be nice for my weird overlanding needs but damn does it just seem like a money pit to operate and later find parts for.
How expensive has it been over the years?

>>16473596
Not very expensive at all. Parts are readily available from 2 different suppliers in New England. The most expensive thing about it is the 24 volt electrics. Special light bulbs, spark plugs, alternator, ect. But on the plus side the 24 volt systems are heavy duty and very rarely have problems.

As for driving it, it's a truck it's meant to be banged around a bit. Remember that Land Rover bodies are aluminum so salt is less of an issue than it is with a steel Ford or Chevy. And being a military truck if you chip the paint you go out with a paint can and a brush and touch it up.

>>16473664
Fuck off.

You're making me want to go out to sell my Ranger for $12 000 and buy this thing and save the other 2 grand for making up on fuel I would inevitably spend racking up 10 000 every two months.
Maybe one day. Thanks for sharing, nonanon. Have a good night.

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>>16466581
my nigga

1990 Cummins W250

>>16454152
>that specific individual stump looks familiar
lol nigger

>>16464819
know the feel man. Also a ham operator. I'm only on vhf right now but I'd like to get a hf band antenna on my truck for a wider range.

>>16465585
Lucky for you, a 850-900 mhz antenna is only a few inches tall. Back when I had my VW GTI, I replaced the satellite radio antenna with a 850 mhz antenna and routed it to my Uniden scanner inside. Shit was cash yo.

>>16473892
My radio can do vhf and uhf but I mostly use the racing/weatherman channels which are nice because they're technically out of the ham range so I don't need a license.

Only downside is they're vhf (like 150-160 range) so they don't carry well through obstructions, so I have to either be in the open or fairly close to other radio users in my group

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>>16473372
Agreed. Most of the old crowd I would wheel with either no longer drive trucks or are too busy to wheel. It's purty sad. Hopefully when the weather warms up I can get a group to go wheeling in the woods. That's the dream!

>Taco broken down, so can't judge.
Know that feeling. I've had this thing since 2012 and I swear it's been broken for longer than driveable lol. There's a reason I named it Murphy after all.

>>16473381
Keep it in the family forever! If I were in your shoes and it got sold I would never forgive myself. I wonder how easy it is to import an old one over? A UK buddy of mine says they go for a dime a dozen over there...

>>16473442
If you find any info please pass it along. I want a DB2 in my rig so I can end this misery.

Also, do you prefer another nickname? I use it cuz every time I see your rig I'm reminded how much I want them haha.

>>16473892
>800mhz antenna only a few inches tall
Sounds a lot like my UHF antenna. I've accidentally knicked it a bunch this season with my snow brush haha

What radio band is HF again? What's usually on it?

>>16473943
Same here. My radio is dual band VHF UHF too. Only problem is barely anyone over here uses UHF. Only thing I can think of is the helicopter Wahmbulance. It comes in handy over here though as I do SAR work and Severe weather spotting for the county. Plus it's always nice to listen in on the cops haha.

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Hey guys.

Just got this 2007 Nissan Xterra Off Road edition. It is pretty sweet, 6 speed manual, 280ftlbs of torque, and a rear electronic locker.

Problem is the 4wd isn't working. The transfer case is shifted by an electronic motor mounted externally. The motor is run off of some relays which are actuated by a selector switch in the cabin.

The truck was stuck in 4Hi. Previous owner said it needed a new electronic transfer case shift motor. I replaced the motor today and it didn't really fix the problem. The 4wd is still only working intermittently, that is it will only successfully shift the transfer case about 1/5 times. Any ideas what might be the issue? I've got replacement relays coming in soon.

Also what do you guys think about the front bug deflector on the hood? Take it off or leave it?

>>16474009
>Also, do you prefer another nickname?
Burbalade or TopKick Handles Guy, whichever you prefer. Doesn't much matter to me as long as I understand who you're referring to.

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>>16473943
Go for the license man! The technician license classification is super easy to get. You'll just have to know the fundamentals of radio theory and operation. Then go take the exam. Costs $30. Every good off-road convoy needs a radio guy!

And you're exactly right. Radio waves in the upper spectrum are more easily affected by obstructions, but less so by atmospheric conditions.

>>16474009
HF (high frequency) is the frequency range between 1.8 mhz and 30 mhz. The HF range is then divided into "bands", that are named/described by the wavelength. i.e. 10 meters, 20 meters, etc.

>>16474009

Within the HF range, many services are found, ranging from civilian comms, military comms, and commercial services. The CB (citizen's band) radio band is found on 11 meters for example. Licensed Ham operators use the 10, 12, 15, 17, 20, 30, 40, 60 80/75, and 160 meter bands within the HF range. In the US, you must hold a "General" class operator's license to transmit on the HF bands (with an exception for Tech license holders on a portion of 10m.) You are encouraged, however, to explore the bands and listen on them regardless of whether you have a license or not.

>pic related, my desktop ham radio setup.

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>>16474009
>>16473943
And one more thing before I go to bed:
If you are licensed, you can utilize "repeaters" in your local area.
So instead of being limited to direct line-of-sight communication (simplex), you can have access to a powerful repeater's entire range of coverage. You'll find much more radio traffic on these.

Another thing about being licensed, you are limited to 1500 watt output rather than the 5 watts that are allowed to unlicensed civilians.

>>16474104
)that map

Dude why is Russia part of Asia

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>>16474009
>Taco broken down

Oh jeez, I should just stick to recent pictures. That's from last fall when I upgraded my brakes to Tundra 13WL calipers and rotors

But yeah I only really use the radio with the rest of my group (rather, the few others who have radios), so we just decide on a frequency and use that for our trip, which is why I'm not too concerned about using repeaters like >>16474104 suggested. (cool desktop setup btw)

>>16474278
Did you need to change the calipers or you just decided to upgrade? What pads do you use?

Also does the e brake system fail as hard as it does on the Taco as well?

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>>16474313
I wanted to do the upgrade for a while since the old calipers and rotors were pretty shit considering the weight of the truck. Basically I did the full upgrade once my stock pads were worn down enough to justify a brake job, but the system worked fine otherwise. I forget the brand, but I'm running ceramic pads.

With the e-brake, my truck just use a cable to engage the rear drum brakes so there was no effect on that whole system, which works pretty well even with the weird-ass brake lever.

ABS is unaffected also (though it turns off anyways when I engage my locker), and my only problem is that now I'm at a higher risk of braking my tie rods if Im stationary and I steer with the brakes applied

>>16467693
Glad to hear Tay-bae

>>16473491
>24volt
>Military

G-Deuce here, why even say those two things in the same sentence. Of course the Military uses the superior 24volt systems. :P

>>16474135
So.... what is the easiest way to get into Ham Radio.

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>>16474374
Deuces, baenon!

>>16474439
Haha, tae gave me a heart. Fuck the rest of you bitches, she can ride in the deuce.... Only got space for 32 on board. She is on the top of the queue.

I'm trying to narrow down a list of things to look at and have no clue where to start.

I've got around $10k @ ~150k miles to throw at an offroad SUV. Looking for something that is as offroad as it is comfy as fuck.

Help.

>>16474863
Define comfy

>>16474384
Because most military Land Rovers are 12 volt.

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>>16474863
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3KQwix9JSo

>>16474389
Buy one

>>16475270
For real? I only worked on US equipment in the army, but I believe all of the nato equipment and all post 1950s US equipment is all 24 volt. I thought it was a cross the board thing.

>>16475763
Yep. My '66 Land Rover ex-NATO ambulance is 12 volt. Pretty much the only 24 volt Land Rovers are the radio trucks, and even that is not a definite. I believe that there 12 volt radio trucks but the 24 volt ones are much more common.

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Alright, /org/ this weekend will be my first time driving in the snow. I have chains for the back tires but not the front? How fucked am I?

Also if you have any tips and things to watch out for I'd appreciate it. Being from SoCal I have no idea how the Taco will behave in the snow

>>16474630
Taytay's a guy senpai

>>16476210
Let him dream

>>16476166
Just giver bud

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>>16474027
Nice Xterra! Best of luck with the relays!
>Bug deflector... Yay or neigh?
Not quite an /org question. We'd be more concerned with the plastic bumper shattering when it hits a rock.

>>16474088
Burbablade. Got it haha.
I keep forgetting you put an Escalade interior in that. Or... at least at one point you did.

>>16474104
>Every off road convoy needs a radio guy
Actually, at least 2 would be best. The leader and the rear guard.

I like your desktop setup!

>>16474135
Repeaters are very nice. We use them a bunch for weather spotting. Only issue is there isn't a lot of radio people in this area. Even the CB waves are ghost towns where I am...

>>16474278
My truck is like trying to play a game of whack a mole. I solve one problem and 2 more pop up.

>>16474389
My truck came with one. I think it was installed from the PO and not a leftover from its ambulance days. Started researching into radio spectrums and operation and went from there! I love this truck because it got me to research and learn so many new things. Now I'm looking into marine electronics for when I gut the interior and check/redo the old 120v electrical circuit that's currently wired in.

>>16474630
Pics of Mil vehicles? I'm surprised it went this long before asking haha.

>>16474384
>>16475270
>>16475763
>>16475784
Are they some sort of messed up 12/24v hybrid like the CUCV? Aren't all NATO vehicles supposed to be able to jump start one another or something like that?

>>16476166
I don't think I have ever seen Chains on anything other than driving wheels. So you may be good? I've never driven with Chains so I don't know what to say... Are you going to be in the mountains?

You should be fine as long as you use common sense and are careful. Just behave and drive like your tires have a quarter to a tenth gripping power as dry pavement. This means stopping and steering early and lightly, and most important of all, SMOOTH AND GENTLE steering/throttle/brake inputs.

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>>16476616
Ye it's gonna be up in the mountains (I'm going skiing with some family and I'm taking the Taco so I wont be off-roading).

With the chains I was thinking I would need traction on my front tires so I don't understeer everywhere, but now that I think about it they'll probably act kind of like rudders to push the snow and steer like that.

So basically drive like I'm on bald tires in the rain, don't go too fast, and don't rip a hektik skid off of a cliff. Seems straightforward enough.

>>16476166
Why do you have chains? Just throw weight in the bed unless you're climbing unplowed mountains

>>16476934
California requires me to have chains or 4x4 if there's more than like two feet of snow since I don't have snow tires and they don't salt the roads this far south (thank god)

Unfortunately for me I'm only 2wd with a locker. Fine for sand, but kinda sketchy on ice

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>>16474630
Here's another one if I can drive it, too! <33

>>16476166
It'll be fine. It's harder to drive in mud than snow and do the sand thing if/when you get stuck (bring it down to 20-25PSI). Chains should be good enough especially if you have them stacked already.

You might want to consider putting chains up front if it doesn't cost you much. People say it's useless if you don't have front powered drive but I've found it better to control in my old 2WD Colorado.
Be careful with turning on ice, though. That's the only time I would prefer power steering is when the chains have dug deep enough into lake ice and you need to do a turn from stopping.

>>16476934
>>16476949
Having chains gives you amazingly impressive control. I loved it. I used to have this belt studded black set for my Colorado until I no longer needed them for the Ranger.

But now, I can't run chains on my 32 Duratracs unless I get the front keys swapped out and maybe a one inch lift. With the winch, I don't really need them anyway but you just end up missing what you don't have );

Also, some people don't know this but chains can help in the mud and non-rock-donminated technical paths. Also, if you're stuck with chains, you can attach a quartered tree into the individual chains and get unstuck that way.

Spin tyres to get the chains wrapped around your back tyres and then you can add sticks to them. They're more work than traction aids but since you're in California, they'll definitely unstuck you from mud if you are ever in a literal rut.

>>16477101
On and on the note of getting stuck, be careful when you've locked your differentials are are stuck on a patch of ice. You can have three stuck wheels and one that's dug through the snow.

-If you're on pavement, that can destroy one of your tyres freespinning to get unstuck.
-If you're on snow on top of ice, it can quick melt the ice underneath which can actually be to your advantage.

You'll probably be with someone with a spade (not a shovel. don't bring use a flathead) so that occasion should never arise. Plus you have chains too. But it's just good to know in case anyone else here is having issues with the snow this winter.

Be safe out there, guys! It's raining really hard and +4 degrees here for some reason. Melted all the snow.

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>>16474389
A cheap handheld radio or mobile-mounted radio would be enough to get you on the air and listening.

eHam has a ton of helpful reviews of all sorts of amateur radio equipment.

http://www.eham.net/reviews/

Pick up a copy of the ARRL Technician License Manual. This will prepare you for the exam. Your local library may have a copy if you don't care to buy one.

The ARRL's website should have more info on it than what I can write on this mongolian kite-testing forum.

http://www.arrl.org/getting-your-technician-license

>>16474278
Thanks!

>>16476616
Thanks! I've made some exotic contacts on that HF radio. And I know what you mean about the air being ghost towns. Another reason I kind of want to get an HF radio in my truck; wider range of coverage.

>>16474170
>mfw you don't know that Russia east of the Ural Mountains is considered Asia.

>>16474368
What's the /ORG/ consensus on ceramic vs organic brake pads?

>>16477161
Mud eats them up all the same so why spend more than necessary

>>16477161
Sand rules apply as street-use brakes

All they do is turn movement into heat

>>16478037
*same rules

>>16476616
Nope, no 12/24 volt hybrid. Everything on my radio truck is 24 volt, spark plugs, bulbs, starter, ect. And everything on my ex-NATO ambulance is 12 volt.

>>16477161
Organic is nice because it's humane and generally locally sourced

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>>16453957
I just bought this thing last month.

Been having fun with it so far. I'm just not exactly sure where to begin with modifications. I do want some new wheels and a bit of a lift but that's about it for now

>>16478838
Dana 60 sas the front and do full 4link with coil overs front and rear

>>16478838
Dana 60/14 bolt swap.
4.88s and 37" Trail Grapplers on double beadlocks.

Lot of land rover talk ITT. What's the comfier option if I work a decent job and want to go car camping for 7~ days?

Will probably go hiking away from car base anyways at some point.

>>16479464
See >>16465846

>>16479049
this

>>16479540
How's the interior? Would you be comfy with your coffee, looking out on the Ozarks at 7am?

>>16479540
>>16465846
Real talk though Holy shit why are these only like 2 grand? Some massive defect?

Fuck me I could contact any listing and have this thing by Saturday, heated leather seats, 3rd row and all.

What exactly is the catch?

>>16478068
Hmm, wonder what year they went full nato compliant then.

>>16479618
It's not european and overhyped

>>16477101
That's a no can do. Only me and the hubby drive the deuce. Not that I don't trust you, but with the weird operating procedures of this thing... it takes a lot of learning.
>>16476210
I know, but one could dream eh?
>>16476616
Tomorrow I will get you some fresh pics.

>>16479681
Does it handle like shit? Break easy? Typical bad owners? Chink interior?

I know it's 15~mpg but that's not bad. How have I overlooked this for so long?

>>16479618
>What exactly is the catch?
Weak transmission and rear axle in the 1500. These can both be replaced with stronger parts with a ~$500-1000 budget.

Or even better, you can buy a 2500 to start with (usually for the same money) and not worry about either of these issues at all since they're both fixed on the 2500. As an added bonus, the larger front diff in the 8 lug models has options for aftermarket lockers, whereas the 6 lug models are essentially stuck with an open front.

Then it comes down to supply/demand and public perception. People think they're a LOT bigger than they really are and as such also think they're far worse on gas than they really are. And of course the market is and always will be full of them due to how many were sold.

>>16479592
Interior is comfy as shit. Escalade seats aren't too hard to swap in and are even better.
If you get lucky you can find conversion models done up by Centurion, Trailmaster, etc. with nicer leather seats, wood trim, TVs and such.

>>16479049
>>16479064
I have so much research to do.

Literally have no clue what Dana 60 shit is. I got the coil over part though

>>16479693
It's a gm. Expect a grounding problem at some point to cause weird but harmless shit. The engine will run till the sun burns out, the trans will go before the engine, but the rear axle is a little small. I'd go for the 2500 series, but remember, on the 1500 you can easily find manuals to swap in. For 2k though, you can abuse it like a red headed stepchild

>>16479693
>Does it handle like shit?
Handles far better than you'd expect for a "large" SUV. It's tiny by fullsize truck standards but available with 3/4 ton suspension.

>Break easy?
Yes to trans and rear end on 1500s. No to everything else and definitely no on the 2500s unless you get a 6.5 diesel with the electronic injection.

>Typical bad owners?
Generally great owners. And good low end power means you don't have to dog them to keep up with traffic.

>Chink interior?
Not at all.

>>16479696
>>16479711
>>16479720
I'm pretty excited. Might not be a super personal vehicle (no cool paint job or extensive customization) but I do need/want a badass truck to take me xc this spring into summer. Thanks bros.

Where would I start with swaps if I can't find a good 2500? As in is there a Bible?

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>>16479592
>Would you be comfy with your coffee, looking out on the Ozarks at 7am?
I don't drink coffee but sure.

>>16479730
1500 is powered by a small block chevy. Apply any small block trans. Also, the suede interior was the best ever. Like driving a supportive lazyboy.

>>16479730
>Where would I start with swaps if I can't find a good 2500?
Six lug 14 bolt for the rear end. Check junkyards, CL and localish FB groups. They're generally $200-300. You'll probably need a conversion U joint.

For the transmission, you'll want a 4L80e if you want to stay automatic, or NV4500 if you want to swap to a manual. You should be able to get everything you need from most any pick n pull type junkyard for $200-400. I'd check forums for info on wiring for the 80e. Both swaps have been done countless times so the info is out there.

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>>16479737
92-94 cloth seats were GOAT but I prefer the leather in the 95+

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>>16479690
Here's a heart anyway.

Tie me to the grill at least?

>>16479697
Dana 60 is a tough as shit axle. Replacing the front independent suspension will make it a moderately more capable offroader.

Also look up the red ARB diff. cap. They look really nice if you're going to the trouble of fitting a Dana 60 under your "small" trucc

(The tow capacity is 6000lbs same as my Ranger so technically it's still a small trucc!!)

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>>16478838
You could do a Solid Axle Swap like everyone's suggesting

OR you could swap some King, Icon, or Total Chaos Long-Travel front suspension and upgrade your rear shocks, leaves, and shackles (or better yet, rear trailing-arm conversion) to do hektik jumps in the desert. Top it off with some fiberglass fenders, a low profile bumper, and enough lights to illuminate the moon, and you have one kickass setup

>>16479540
>>16465846
Here's a question. How do you guys deal with your burbs in the winter? Let it idle for like 5-10 minutes before going or do you just suck it up and wear full jacket?

Personally, I despise wearing a jacket when driving since the tails always get caught on my right arm or left arm when turning. Shit triggers my autistic OCD down syndrome.
If it's -10 out, I'll even wear my sweater to the vehicle and pull over once it's warm to take it off and drive only with out the hassle.

Such is the life in a cab.

>>16479861
Kinky, but if you want sure. Just realize, it's a long fall back down. Front bumper is about 3-4 feet off the ground. The drivers but is 6 foot in the air or more.

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>>16479920
I like this idea!
You can do a winch bumper swap and attach as many fog and spot lights to it as you want. Thsi way, when you're doing the wiring on the lights and winch, you can do a comprehensive check of the undercarriage and bay using your manual and see what all the little gizmos do.

(Fog) lights, (go pro) camera, action!

>>16479940
Eh. Let's not talk about how high butts are to be placed.
Sounds great, though. Can't wait to knock down pine trees and houses with this!

>tfw you pray deer jump out on the highway because free dinner

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>>16480046
That's actually something I'd like to do at some point. On top of the new bumper, I'd like to do some good fog lights since I've already converted my turn signals, and I'd like to have some undercarriage lights up underneath the truck

>>16480119
Do you have factory skid plates on the thing or definitely not because muh 2wd?

>>16480164
Ye the TRD Prerunner came with factory skidplates. Not that they're any good, though. They don't let me catch on rocks but they're a bit flimsy so that's something else that I'll end up upgrading

>>16476616
I really miss my 96' Suburban now.

>>16479931
If it's cold outside (-10 celcius and below) I let it idle for 2-10min, but that's to get the oil flowing before I put any load on it.
I'm not sure what you mean by tails getting caught, though.

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going wheeling sunday in socal. make a decision for me. Dangerous mountain conditions because we have gotten a SHIT ton of snow. Or go to the desert, drive further, and not have the chance of shitty trail conditions in my non insulated heep. And I guess if anyone wants to join that would alright too.

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>>16473876
you just dont understand my affinity for stumps anon

>>16481338
fellow socal bro here, ever been to the Rowher flats OHV area? I haven't taken my rig off road since I moved here and it seems like a good place to start.

>>16481338
>Living in the most toxic, shithole state
Shiggy diggy

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>>16481372
>I recognize that gay stump

>>16481338
Dang, it had to be the same weekend that I'm in Big Bear >>16476166

SoCal meet eventually

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>>16481749
I was going to ask if you were going to snow valley. I used to live in lake arrowhead and there's some pretty good trails in the back mountains up there. never drove them in my truck but had some good rides on dirt bikes

>>16482244
I'll be up at Snow Summit for the weekend, so I'll be up past that. I actually haven't been off road out there before, but unfortunately I won't be doing any trails while I'm up there.

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>>16479931
>Not including me in on the question.
Being a diesel she can get a bit tempermental if the weather is ridiculously cold, so I usually let it run for a minute or 2 to get the oil flowing. I'm gentle on her until she warms up though.

I can usually get a bit of heat in about 2-3 minutes. I can get comfortable in 5-6, and it gets too hot and I need to turn the heat down/off within 10-20min depending on the weather.

With that in mind I just suck it up and complain about not living somewhere warmer. Not sure what you mean about tails... I'm fine in my leather coat/jean jacket. I have my ski jacket too, but I never wear it while driving... too puffy.

>>16479690
Pics of the whole fleet? You said you had a fleet right?

>>16477139
I'm intrigued. What kind of antenna do I need for HF band in a mobile?

>>16476925
Let us know how it goes! If we don't hear from you, we will press F to pay respect.

>>16477101
Stupid me never thought of using chains in the sand/mud. Any idea how they do in sand? I wonder if the park rangers will let me run them up on the sand dunes...

Also, status on the Taynger?

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>>16479464
If you're a Burger, then I'd personally recommend a Burb. You can haul more for camping and surprisingly, you're not too bug for the trails for the most part. You can find them for dirt cheap too nowadays

>>16479618
Those have 6.5s in them and can be a major headache if electronically controlled. See >>16472986, >>16473071, and >>16473347.

Only other catch I can think of is the weak spots like >>16479696 said. Fuel economy isnt the greatest... I can get 16-20mpg in the 6.5. My old 350 would get 13MPG no matter what, which isn't bad considering what they are.

>>16479592
They're pretty good interior wise! My previous 95 was leather and super comfy. My current was beat to shit living life as an ambulance but the seats are still comfy as fuck. My current has only 3 seats at the moment and is far more utilitarian though (from ambulance days), but still comfy. Inside I use it more as a mobile storage unit while I daily it as it awaits the full on oberland build.

Handling is what you would expect for a truck. Just don't expect or treat it like a Miata or a BMW and you're good.

>>16479730
Glad to hear! Though I think Burbalade was more help than I was as I was late to the party. You can find more if a personal truck if you look hard though. The conversions typically had the "90s" pinstripe paint styles. You wouldn't see yourself on the road in town haha.

>>16479735
>Full disclosure
That is the Cadillac Escalade interior. Not stock on a Chebby but will bolt right in.

>>16479730
I would start browsing forums. Plenty of people have done the swaps and there are plenty of threads outlining what was done!

2590s are a bit harder to find, but not impossible though! With how many of these were built you can find a decent one for sale!

>>16479720
>Electrical injecton 6.5 will break down
6.5 owner here. Can confirm.

>>16480389
Pics of the old burb? What happened?

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>>16483496
I get the quarterpanel repairs finished this Monday and then tow it to the Fab. to get the bumper and axles quoted.
Depending on the bumper damage (and if he can reinforce it or scrap it), it could be another 2 months before I get to see my Taynger winched up again.

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oh man oh man oh man oh man oh man oh man oh man

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>>16484055
Godspeed, Tay, I hope for only the best for you and your trucc

>>16484535
Oh god, oh man! Oh god, oh man! Oh god, oh man! Oh god, oh man! Oh god, oh man! Oh god, oh man!

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40 series checking in! Still springing it over, once it's done I'll have some wheeling pics for all you guys. For now, here's the half cab conversion I got with it when I bought it.. I think I'm gonna finish it before too long

>>16484055
im actually impressed at how much work youre putting into fixing a total shitbox
btw nice dubs too

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>>16484606
Fucking sweet. I like how you posted right after the FJ stickers that anon got >>16484535

Also, nice trips on your license plate.

>>16484542
>>16484609
:D

Re: shitboccs. Same, actually. Though, this shitbox has a $13k blue book value according to my insurance.

>>16484636
shitbox dedication is an under appreciated art
keep up the goodwork swiftposting faggot

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>>16484606
>777 Larper

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>>16484688
>a 7 ft 7.7 inch large raping penis

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Why are Jeep owners so weird?

>>16484699
Why did you drop your namefield, crownon? Who hurt you?

>>16451446
So I really want a H2 for over landing. Seems great for around 12k. Thoughts?

>>16485605
Pigfat brick that's too long and too wide to drive on any trail that's remotely technical

>>16455706
Ugly

>>16473491
Do you have any interior pics? About to sell one of my houses and really interested.

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>>16485632

>>16485632
That's not very nice, anon

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Help me get into offroading, friend of mine had a bronco then sold it and picked up a baja bug.

Bronco's are dirt cheap, but I like the novelty of a baja bug

Broncos on CL in SD go for around 500 while the lowest baja's I can find are going for 1200.

I feel like the Bronco is the most practical choice for my weekend excursions, but the bug feels like it would be more "fun" in a sense atleast from what I've heard.

I'm going to mostly be in dune country btw

In all honesty don't see why I should pay more than 1k on a weekend warrior toy, but baja bug's are just so aesthetic.

Which one can I fulfill my dream of being a rally driver more?

Which is more fun?

>>16485721
A Mexican leaf?

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>>16485736
Bronco would be a better all-around truck, whereas the bug would be just for taking out to the dunes for the weekend.

Personally I'd do the Bronco, but that's just because I only hit the desert two or three times a year

Looks like we have another San Diegan. That makes what? 3 or 4 /org/ members in SD?

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>>16484055
That sucks. I hope it can be salvaged! Otherwise no more SNOWROLLING till next year?

>>16484535
I'm jealous! Mine are still in the mail...

>>16484606
You are living the dream anon!
Need more wheeling pics!

>>16484636
>>16484609
I can't begin to count how many people complained about this shitbox. The way I see it they'll get valuable just like the square bodies are starting to bottom out and recover.

>>16484732
>Nothing can stop a Jeep
>Not even the brakes.

As I former Jeep YJ owner, this made me kek. Also can confirm...

>>16485605
Spend less money and get a burb. All an H2 is pretty much a silverado underneath. Why pay a price premium?
Also, see:
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>>16479540
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>>16479618
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>>16485736
I would recommend a suburban simply for consistency. See^ if interested.

I'm surprised Broncos are so cheap there! There are none in Salty miserable Michigan. I would hate to see what one would go for here...

>>16485781
/ORG/ Convoy!
Cross country trip to San Diego, avoiding pavement as much as possible in the process.

>>16485487
im not crownon that is my reaction image not his ill fite him

>>16485605
wont necessarily be easy to find parts for
thats the opposite of what you want for overlanding

also this >>16485628
its incredibly wide. unless youre only going to be in the desert youre going to have a lot of trouble in most of the US

>>16484606

I prefer the wagon, but each to his own

>>16483496
Rest of the fleet is in Missouri. Will send pics next time I'm up on the farm. Might have to hunt the 5 tons down. They end up in weird places. Last year they got stuck in 5he back barn when we hauled bails of hay in and the trailer collapsed.

>>16485736
>broncos are dirt cheap
wew

>>16486513
Wagon as in the fj43? 47? 55? 60?

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Morning dudes, anyone else got any trip planned this weekend?

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>>16459990
>2 80's, a 3rd gen, and a 40

i came