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>>16358331
Sportbikes modded for touring duty can be good but there are some issues.

Like you mentioned, most if not all pure sportbikes are going to be terrible for 2-up riding.

Sportbikes are not engineered to tune out vibrations. A sportbike will almost always be more uncomfortable on the NVH front.

Fuel mileage both in miles per gallon and miles per tank will be worse on a sport bike. Most get around 35-0mpg and around 140-150 miles to a tank if you're being ginger when most touring bikes can squeeze 200+ miles out of a tank.

Touring accessory options are typically very limited with most sport bikes, there are a few exceptions but expect some form of fabricating an existing solution to fit or only finding small soft bags for a sportbike application.

Unless you go literbike or bigger (bye bye fuel mileage) expect poorer low rpm performance compared to a dedicated sport tourer. Not a big issue for some people, a huge issue for others.

>>16358422
>sportbike
>literbike or bigger
>poor low RPM performance

GSXR750

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>>16358434
>suzuki

>>16358444
at least it's not honda

what bike is this dude on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D268WUQbTQg

>>16358446
As a former Hondafag, I agree.

Hondas used to be awesome but now they're mediocre at best.

Will be buying Yamaha's almost exclusively for the foreseeable future.

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>>16358283
>>16358422
sport tourers a best
>sport bikes too uncomfortable
>nakeds too windy
>tourers too boring
>cruisers too poser
>dualsport too windy and too slow

Sport tourers let you ride to the twisties, then enjoy the twisties. Once my TL and DR sell, I'm either going bandit or sprint.

>>16358448
YZ250

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daily reminder slowfag bikecunts to stay gtfo off of my touge tyty

>>16358464
>didn't get the get

>>16358452
>sport bikes too uncomfortable

Woah we got someone over 30 here

>>16358485
Try doing 600km on a supersports and wave your barely-broken-in-dick around again.

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>>16358363

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>>16358422
>>>16358283 →
>>16358331 →
Converting a sportbike is a bad idea. Shit like adding risers, lowering pegs etc is a neverending and expensive way of finding the next weakest link, then eventually you find that your knees don't lock into the tank anymore because of the out-of-design ergos and that your mongrel bike is hard to sell.

If you're going to do any seriously long trips, you'll find your converted sportbike will get on your nerves.
>no luggage tiedowns
>only small/generic soft bags available
>soft, agressively profiled sport tires square off in no time
>suspension/geometry too stiff and twitchy for long interstate sections
>2 up is cruel to your passenger
>no center stand for daily chain lube
>alternator output barely enough to run headlights and CDI
etc

Get the right tool for the job basically.

>>16358492
Repeat that in American, cowboy. Yaknow, inches, feet, nazi heatometers.

>>16358485
As someone who's ridden sportbikes exclusivly in their 20's and 30's. They are fucking too uncomfortable for sport touring.

Spend two hours on a sport bike and you are hating life.

They are """comfotable""" for hour long stints or less. but put any real distance on a sport bike and you will be wishing for something more suited for the job.

I rode my F4i from outside LA to the Bay Area up the PCH in my 20's. Was an 9 hour ride. I swore never to do it again without the right bike. And that had a $300 Corbin seat on it. It literally was painful on wrist, arms, back, and ass. And two hours into such a ride you can forget any meaningful "sport" riding because your throttle hand is too numb for anything resembling good throttle control and you're too sore to move around in the seat.

On my R6 it would be death.

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>>16358513
why not get a proper bike for touring?

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>>16358513
>9 hours on an F4i

>>16358525
>hello wind blast my old friend
>i've come to
>WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>16358525
I'm thinking about it. See:
>>16358283

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>>16358525

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>>16358532
>he cant ride a naked bike
Why are people such bitches about a little bit of wind anyway?

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>>16358528
People do sport tour F4i's but they set them up for it properly. I had stock height clipons and rearsets with the only "comfort" mod being a very nice Corbin seat.

With risers at least I would have been in a lot better shape.

Now riding 2.5 on my R6 out to Mulholland is almost enough to make me cry. but it's got the stock plank seat and I'm older now. Usually I take a good 30-45 minute breather and eat something to recuperate before hitting the twisties.

Pic related, my old """tourbike""" F4i

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>>16358533
well that and the xjr1300 are probably the best choices on the market.

>>16358554
>2.5
2.5 hours.

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>>16358544
It's just the looks.

99% of fairings don't do shit unless you lay on the tank, but at least you don't look like a cuck

>Nice cafe racer dude! Is that a CX500 or a harley sportster with an ironic honda? Super sweet broheim.

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>>16358513
>>16358554
>riding sportbikes for 20 years
>still rides a 600

>>16358565
liters are for kids with tiny peters

>>16358564
There is no way i would tour with a naked bike.

Even commuting on my WR is annoying compared to my R6 because of the wind blast. And my R6 has a babby fairing meant for tucking.

With a real touring fairing you can get real comfy.

>>16358571
I see, you're one of those who take it up the ass because "it's more comfy".
To each his own.

>>16358580
I perfer bikes that provide wind protection, both practically and in looks.
You prefer something different.

No need to get assblasted about it and sperg out retard.

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>>16358571
Personally i have never really found a problem with wind on a naked bike, it is the bugs that are the problem, i have to put my bug shield on for spring each year otherwise i have to pull over and clean my helmet all the time.

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>>16358525
>>16358532
>>16358544
>>16358557
>>16358564
>>16358571
>>16358587
"wind isn't a problem guys"
t. rides on the freeway for <90 minutes at a time

I've toured heaps on my dr650 and previously trx850. Realistically about 15-20 longish trips over the past couple of years.
>wind tires your arms holding on to the bars
>wind tires your neck from holding your head up
>wind blows on your knees and tires your hips
>wind gets you wet when its raining
>then bitterly cold shortly after
>wind gets you covered in bugs
>wind blows dust, gravel, and twigs into your face

I enjoy the ease of access that a naked bike offers, but realistically you need some wind protection, ie a fairing, for long distance riding.

>>16358608
i don't ever go on freeways on my bike why would i?
i ride to and from work most days and on the weekends i normally go for a cruise to find new roads

>>16358608
I've done full day trips (10 hours or so of riding) on my sport naked and never felt any fatigue. Usually going 40% over the speed limit too.

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some old fag crashed into me

his insurance says his car is a different colour than what it is

does that matter or no

>>16358674
you aint gettin shit nigga

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>>16358608
That's an odd looking Yamaha. Do you know what model it is?

Also can confirm doing more than 1 hour at over 100km/h on a naked bike is an absolute nightmare.

I then put the most humongous windshield I could buy on my bike and it became maximum comfy. Ugly as fuck, but comfy.

also
>off work until next year
aww shiat

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>>16358716
naked trx850 anon. is dat sum mt-03?

I'm tempted to get a 250 as a second bike, put a huge front sprocket on it, and just commute on it forever while I enjoy a funbike on the weekends.

>>16358727
Mt03 was a 660 single
Now i think they're gonna remake it with the 321 twin

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***THE PERFECT BIKE***

chassis
>beautiful alloy trellis
>engine visible/prominent
>hossack front end
>duolever rear end
>shaft drive
>quality sealed bearings
>grease fittings for easy maintenance

***ENGINE***
>at least 100 hp
>abundant torque at all revs
>butter smooth FI
>things like air and oil filters cheap and easy to change
>air cooling
>lock nut adjustable lifters

***FEATURES***
>all fairings quickly removable via Dzus fasteners or similar
>ABS and stability control with off switch
>hard luggage available
>fuel gauge
>clock
>power outlets on dash

Bandits are kind of close, but the chassis is basic bitch.

>>16358744
ABS and stability control are for cucks.

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>>16358727
It is yeah. Had it for about a year. It was a fun bike.

I do have a 250 (with the default gearing though) and it isn't really that fun. It's just basic transportation really, it gets you from A to B but after a while on it you start to think "Hell I could go to work on something nicer that is actually fun or useful for other things like touring or shitbiking".

I think the key might be to own something low value that you don't have to worry about much, but not necessarily boring as a 250 with an awful build quality made for 3rd world countries.

As soon as I can sell another bike I have I'll probably get something else to commute on. No idea what though, maybe one of these >>16358744 or maybe a dualsport or maybe some old CBR/VFR (if I can find it) in need of some love or god knows what.

>>16358744
>>butter smooth FI
isnt the pictured bandit carbed?

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>>16358744
So, kinda like my bike in touring setup. Usually I ride it without the windshield and luggage.

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>>16358749
>Hell I could go to work on something nicer that is actually fun or useful for other things like touring or shitbiking
I commute on my 08 dr650, and it's actually stunningly competent. Plus you can use it for all your usual dualsport fun. My issue is that it's a $6k, low mileage bike and it feels like overinvestment in basic bitch transportation. But I'm in no rush to sell because commuting on it is so based.

>>16358758
BMW tempting but I'm well frightened of the maintenance. I know they're reliable, but when it comes time to actually work on it, I feel like they need lots of special tools and the parts can be expensive.

It does tick a lot of boxes, though. I hope they make a decent sport tourer on the RnineT platform because that could tempt me enough to actually buy one.

>>16358608
i think fatigue is part of the journey and why i prefer touring on naked bikes

sweat and grime makes the evening's rest all that sweeter

>>16358777
Just regular oil+filters-type maintenance yearly/enough kilometers and every other year check valve clearance+throttle synch and you´re good to go. Everything is so understressed, that stuff really doesn´t break. Only "special" tool that I need is a beer mug lookin oil filter removal tool(I don´t know wtf they call it in english) and it was something like 5€ at the local tool shop. My bike is a ´95, so the parts for it are not expensive, but I cannot say for other models.
It could get expensive, if you live in the US, because, atleast on 4chan, people complain, that if it´s something even remotely exotic or rare, bike- and car shops will absolutely pillage and rape you out of money. On the other hand, this is 4chan, anything that is more expensive than a buspass is a disaster.

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>>16358777
I've been really happy riding the standard r ninet for 400-500 miles at a time,

If you want to sport tour why not just get an r1200rt or something

>>16358661
what bike?

>>16358906
drz400

I'm short as shit. What's the best touring bike with no more than 31" of seat height?

>>16359063
Bmw r nine k

>>16359063
Grom

>>16359063
As a rule of thumb, only dirt bikes, adventure/dual sports and very track oriented bikes have more than 31" seat height. There are some rare exeptions to this thou.
Honda Goldwing, Harley-Davison Ultra Glide and BMW R1600GTL are the top doggos at the time.

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Finally finished up my friends gsxr 750, the fairings are in shit shape but w/e, now I can go riding with him on my bandit. I will be going to pick up my old Honda 650 nighthawk today and get that all fixed up and probably sell it to a coworker

What's the current status of SEM

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>>16358758
G R O W L & S H A K E
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Been driving à 2010 hornet without à windshield, more than an hour of hihhway was a pain in the ass, wind's pushing you all around, and i'm a bit fit so no spaghetti arms....
But since i'm riding the Bertha i dont feel à thing

>160km/h on the hihhway, windshield half raised
> Don't feel a fucking thing

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Correct me if i'm wrong, but shouldn't there be a lock nut?

>>16359219
JB Weld it and you are good to go m8.

>>16359178
cancelled because of berlin attacks

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>>16359178

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>>16359171
Noice anon. Glad it turned out okay.

Any TODOs or is it finished by this point?

Also, your fairings are fine lol

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I just want to ride my bike again :(

Is "MOTO MADNESS/""""""'dirtyhusky69""""""" a furry

>>16359398
ya

>>16359398
ye

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>>16359408
>>16359418
wait for real

>>16359428
>dirtyhusky69

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04AHOdeU9es

what bike is this?

>>16359438
fz09 apparently

http://www.fz09.org/forum/10-fz-09-builds/5920-aaron-colton-s-fz09-build.html

>>16359438
fuck off Neil Kee

>>16359438
FZ-09?

>>16359445
thanks a lot

>>16359438
Yamaha DRZ400 triple

>>16359438
honda hayabusa

>>16359438
Hooner 9000

>>16358497
H-hh-hello mada-me, c-cc-could you help me with s-ssome directions please?

How many miles should I expect a 2009 KLR650 to have? Thinking of buying one. Kelly Blue Book says 12000 miles, but that seems high to me.

>>16359501
High? It's less than 2,000/yr. I live in the northeast and put a little over 6,000 on my bike per year. I would imagine someone living in warmer climates where you ride all year could be around 20,000/yr.

>>16359501
that's a little over 1300 miles a year, not all that crazy

>>16358674
shouldn't matter. they can go by VIN to make sure it's the same vehicle.

>>16359533
Not high on a per-year basis, but high in general for a new rider who doesn't want to have to replace large parts of the bike soon.

I'm seriously talking out of my ass, the only bikes I've owned are a 50cc moped and a 125cc dirt bike when I was a kid.

So 12k miles is alright? What's a good price for a 2009 klr?

>>16359501
Those things can easily handle a ton + barely run it at 12k.

>>16359548
very cheap, ancient shitbike. Dated, much better alternatives.

>>16359559
such as?

>>16358544
The first bike I had came with a windscreen. Thought of taking it off but just left it on. Was driving down the highway one day and a rock got kicked up and hit the windscreen just below the top, right in the center. That would have hit my face or neck if the windscreen wasn't there. Had to replace it but never road without one after that.

>>16359561
BMW F650, KTM 640 adventure

>>16359565
640 adventure? Seriously?

Both those bikes are extremely similar to the KLR 650, but with harder to find parts. Stop being a special snowflake.

>>16359571
they're the better performing motorcycles

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/dbt/ how the fuck do you balance tires on single sided swingarm bikes? I took the rim off took it into a shop and had em put the tire on. Anyways he said he couldn't balance it, because he doesn't have the machine that will accept the single sided swingarm rim. He said I bought a "high quality tire" and it has a factory balance that it should be fine. The fuck! Is it fine? I won't know till thousands of miles from now!

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>>16359582
>letting yourself be bullshitted like that
>mfw

>>16359582
It's not that big of a deal bro. This might just be some bro-science, but think of all the forces involved when your tire is spinning rapidly. You have the weight of the tire, the wheel, and any other reciprocating mass involved in the process - all of which is probably between 15-20 lbs in total. You really think 21 grams worth of some wheel weights is going to have any significant effect?

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>>16359592
Well the fuck am I spose to do! I'm gunna have to buy the shit myself I called 3 dealers non of em can balance it!

>>16359597
Just found a shop that can do it. WTF do I do? Rip it off? As you can see I had to take the exhaust off to do it. I can prolly rip it off in 30 minutes but.

>>16359600
is that the 600 or the 900? I really want to get a 600 PC41 next year, how do you like it?

also, not the guy you asked, but at my old shop, we always used a contraption using a jaw vice, a rod of metal and then just did it eyeballing, and it always worked

>>16359629
CB1000R ese. 998cc

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>>16359629
Fuck it I'm ripping it off and taking it in. It will just eat at my brain for the next 10,000 miles.

>>16359642
lol that looks exactly like the hornet, my bad

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>>16359600
>>16359648
I balance mine using a cheap balance stand from revzilla and a section of pipe I welded up so it actually rotates freely. No balance issues at ~160 so I imagine it works p gud.

what should I pay for a 2009 KLR with 12k miles?

>>16358737
> Now i think they're gonna remake it with the 321 twin
They already did, just not in the US. The mt-03 2016+ is the R3 without fairings.

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Plebs think this is a great bike. KEK.

>>16359690
Nothing

>KLR
>underpowered
>pigfat
>unreliable balancer lever thing from the factory

I can't believe it's not a suzuki

Buy a tenere/XT

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>>16359600
>dat stovepipe muffler

fucking honda.

>>16359698
is that a front tyre for ants?

>>16359698
t. canttturn

>>16359710
I can't afford that. I need an adventure bike/dual sport under 3500

>>16359600
>Bullshit commie noise reducer
>zany side outlet so a slipon needs an adapter pipe

honduh

>>16359729
DR650

>>16359729
lets see

>KLR650: carbed slave race, 42HP/47NM, 5 gears, 432lbs wet, 5.8 gal tank, ~45MPG
>XT660R: FI master race, 48HP/58NM, 5 gears, 421 lbs wet, 3.3 gal, ~45MPG

If you intend to go offroad the XT660R is just going to be better. Even if you get an aftermarket tank and load it down with an extra 2.5gal fuel (15.5lb) it still has a slighty bettter power/weight ratio, more torque, FI, and more suspension travel.

>>16359729
XR650
R
6
5
0

>>16359756

Every review i've ever read said the xt660r is a hunk of shit.

Poor build quality, shit suspension, flexing frame, weaving bars at anything past gentle, pigfat and abysmal fuel injection. Shit on the road, worse in the dirt.

Get a Husky or Lc4 KTM.

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>>16358587
Before I take a long road trip where I know ima get lotsa dead shit on my bike in just do a good wax job. Stuff wipes off pretty easy after that

>>16359791
Did those same reviewers also speak favorably of the DRZ and DR650?

>>16359792
I bet you rub your morbidly obese belly on your just as morbidly obese "motorcycle" afterwards, too

>>16359793
Not really, hardly spoken about at all. Those things have stopped being plated in over decade.

The xt660 is mostly popular over here due to a lack of alternatives other than the vastly more expensive KTM.

Wish there were more G650X's around. Wouldn't mind owning one.

>>16359813
We'll since I'm not fat, no. But thanks for trying to be edgy I guess

>>16359826
but you are a closet homosexual and aspiring boomer.

why are you even here, indians are edging on no bike since it's just a car minus two wheels for poser faggots.

>>16359792
dats racist

just got a wr500

>>16359843
>wr500
godspeed you crazy fucker

>>16359838
Found the honda rider

>own honda
>feel the need to rant and rave about what is and is not a real bike so you can feel better about your wasted time and money

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>>16359838
You're trying to hard senpai!

>>16359841
I'm racist lol

>>16359851
keep grasping homo

>>16359854
I bet your faggot ass voted trump

>>16359826
Lol I've seen you post pics of your gay ass bike where your reflection was in the chrome, and yes, you are definitely fat, and bald

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>>16359864
I was out of the country for the election, so no.

Have a cute traffic selfie to make your day better :)

>>16359855
Suzuki then

Same diff

>good mainstream manufacturers:
>EBR
>Ducati
>Kawasaki
>Yamaha
>MV
>KTM
>Beta

>>16359867
Hahaha. I'm bald because I shave my head. Helps firefighting equipment fit better at work. And I have a 32 inch waist, so nope. Thanks for caring so much though

>>16359867

thirsty nigga scouring for dick shots too i bet

>>16359881
>waist bigger than 30 inches
>"i'm not fat"

What are you, a woman? A fridge?

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>>16359875
I like this list.

>>16359889
Kek

>>16359890
We'll I do a lot of heavy lifting. Sorry I'm not full blown skeleton lol.

But it's ok, I still do my 3 mile run in under 20 min.

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>never knew there was a white-on-white DRZ option for '09

>>16359870
Sup indiananon?

>>16359890
He's just American

>>16359895
I still have a few wats to give you to spread to the crew.

>>16359905
Sup yo. Just here enjoying the daily banter. At the dealership getting a new tire and being a bum

How's your day so far

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>>16359912
I do need a wat desu.

samuel barnett

>>16359870
You have a Duke too, right?

>>16359936
One from mars

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>>16359936
another picture for reference

>>16359920
New tire already?
Enjoying the 60F weather further up the potomac here. Also searching craigsshit for potential baikus in my price range. Xmas money soon.

>>16359921
>emvee been shittoasting since April
wew time flies.
I might have to just pop them in the mail for y'all if fireblade isn't gonna be down by my uni anytime soon.

>>16359937
I have so many things I don't keep track honestly :/

I only like posting what triggers the autist

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is this what they call a

Cafe
Racer?

>>16359947
ayo I might be down around spring

>>16359949
What?

>>16359947
>>16359947
Picked up a screw in the center and couldn't patch it :( but shit happens.

Yea. It's nice out today so after I get the tire and inspection ima go ride around some.

Anything catching your eye?

>>16359951
Is this furry porn?

>>16359958
I have so many toys I don't keep track anymore is what I'm saying.

Wanna make out now?

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what bike ??

>>16358497
T H I C C

H

I

C

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hello wha

>>16359983
Just like that bike.
And suzuki owners

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wh

Whoever is posting that furry shit can stop now Okay

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???

>>16360011
mrcummy pls

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bike is this ????????????????????

>>16360008
Are you new? Just ignore it, faggot

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hello??????????????

>>16358571
I rode my CB1100 from Perth, Western Australia to Melbourne, Victoria.
Touring on a naked is perfectly comfortable so long as you limit yourself to 120-130kph cruising speed.

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motercycle

>>16359961
>screw
damn those little buggers.
Go enjoy the weather, I wish I could.

That white DRZ a few pics up, guy is asking 3.4k, but I do want to be able to afford gear, rego, insurance, etc.
There are a few FZ6Rs floating about for $3k but I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place, as I really like dual sports.
An 08 V-strom is listed for $2.2k but there's like no info on it. So nah.
You still have the honda? Teaching the lady to ride?

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hello i want to buy motorcuck

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is this good frist bike ???

>>16360042
So WR450 for 2.5k
Also the fz6 is a great bike. Much better than a vstrom.
Youll be bored of the drz after one ride

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ok u guy ARE FUCK !

bye thanks 4 nothin

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>>16360074
You are beyond help.

>>16360042
Sucks because these tires get a long ass life. Oh well.
Ohh sounds good. You try to talk um down any? Or tried to get any info on the Strom? Sounds like a super good deal unless otherwise has a shit ton of miles on it. Plus being the holiday season it's easier to talk ppl down on the price.
Still gor the vtx. She's muh beater. Love that thing.
I tried but she's content with being a passenger. That's fine with me. Just means one of these years I'll have an excuse to go buy a k1600gtl.

For all the honda haters here:

There's a guy here at the dealership trading in his honda for a scout. Good for him

>>16360135
I like Honda, I want to buy one

>>16360148
Good choice for a dd m8. It's what I use

>>16359138
>wants meme bike
Get a real bike anon, those cucks on youtube are just messing around.

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>>16360060
wtf is going on here

>>16359951
Yes, it's a cuckracer.

>>16360063
WR450 for 2.5k where?
I know FZ675R had a FZ6R and loved it.They seem like a pretty good first street bike. Although Vstroms seem a bit more capable offroad....

>>16360093
Yeah didn't say how many miles on it, seems a bit thrashed. I'm gonna keep waiting tho.
I wouldn't blame you if you said you only rode the chieftain around though.

>>16360215
Better safe than sorry on a used bike. I've never had luck with cl around here. It's flooded with nigs and stolen shit.

Haha well I'd be lying if I said they were equals. It's not a fair comparison.

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I wonder who Joey Mac 420 is. I wonder if I'll be able to ride as well as he can.

>>16360201
invisible cylinder mod

>>16358608
I'd be inclined to agree with you. Long rides on my naked are tiring, but then again most long rides are tiring cause im tall so I get blasted by shit all the time.

>>16360161
What humda

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>>16359296
Thats what the other side looks like lol
Just need s front wheel fender thing and a new drain plug.
Im glad my bandit dosent need any work right now

new rider here /o/

also a big guy, i want a dual sport bike,or at the very least a bike i can take off on

what can i get for less than 2 grand

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>>16359756
Where do you find a 42hp klr?

Is it safe to use hot glue on a painted fuel tank without risk of chipping the paint off when I remove it?

>>16360329
oh i forgot to add,i want to take this bike across the country mounted on the back of a van

dual sport isnt totally nessecary,but id like to ride in most conditions

>>16360329
Drz or wr250

>>16360329
XR650L

>>16360351
So it doesn't need to be street legal? KDX200

>>16359824
>G650X
Husqvarna Terra is basically the same bike.

>>16360307
Vtx

>>16360405
Nice, I was looking at a couple of vtrs, but they're like really expensive

>>16360341
On the outside?

>>16360436
Yes. I want to glue some pads to my tank because $50+ for rubbery stickers is ridiculous.

>>16360429
Those are sexy. Sadly I've never seen one in person. Would love to hoon around on one though

>>16360403
>Husqvarna Terra
and even more of an unicorn?

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Lusting after a dual sport for mainly street so hard,

but the mental juggling to pick between either reliability, power, price (purchase & maintenance) is getting the best of me.

DRZ's are just toooo slow man. Fuck.

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tfw nobike again

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>>16360547

>>16360593
wut happened to the Rieju?

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Woah

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Any eurobro have some info on the Cagiva W12 350? I've seen some mint looking ones for cheap, apparently this bike was used by the Italian and German army at some point.

I'm not sure what engine it has, couldn't find any concrete info. I know Cagiva outsource their engines so it's either a DR350, XT350 or some weird Rotax?
Could be a fun little shitbike.

>>16360628
I sold it

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>nobody is watching my videos so i have to do or claim retarded shit so people will watch my videos because i dont want to get a real job.

We should tell this faggot to post boipucci

>>16360654
Probably dr350 because cagiva is know to use suzuki engines like the raptor 650.

is the BMW GSA abit heavy and overpowered for offroad touring?

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>>16360842
Depends on how you define offorad touring.
if it is somewhere a car can go its a great bike. If it is somewhere you might drop it once every hour it is way to heavy to be fun.

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Which ones lads? My riding gloves are starting to fray and get worn out. And I don't have actual riding boots.

>>16360693
Fuck off Yammie cunt, you already got BTFO by every other faggot in vlogging.

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>>16360717
the cylinder head looks very different to a dr350

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webm test 1

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>>16361011
webm test 2

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it's not a very pretty light setup

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>tfw get too introspective when drunk

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>>16361028
but muh visibility

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>>16360979
Those aren't riding boots ya dummy

>>16361035
They're over the ankle and meant for riding, doesn't bother me what they're actually called.

>>16361033
>tfw always introspective
>alcohol makes me brain shud up

Tbh never reached the point of piss drunkness though.

>>16359890
>A """man""" with a 30" or smaller waist.

Jelly skelly detected.

>>16361045
They won t do fucking shit, over ankle does not mean they protect the ankle, DO NOT waste your fucking money, trust me been there done that.

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>>16361051
It isn't really that fun. I used to drink a lot in the past, but nowadays 3 beers and I'm gud.

>>16360979
Anon may we recommend you get boots that protect your ankles? I've crashed once and have the boots to prove it that it does matter. You don't have to go full power ranger like pic related, but do get something that words.

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Well, /dbt/, I went out to test ride the Panigale again today, to compare it against the R1, and I've decided to go for the Ducati.

In 17 days, I will no longer be able to post here, since I will be either:

a) Far too important to mingle with you plebs.
b) Dead.
>or, more likely
c) Crying in a garage somewhere as I come to terms with the full Ducati™ reliability experience.

>>16361122
There are several panigale owners on /dbt/

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>>16361119
Aaaand I'm drunk. Meant to post this.

>>16361122
I would have gone for the R1 though. Not a big fan of European bikes, especially the Italian ones.

What made you choose the Panigale?

Hope to hear from you soon though.

>>16360693
>implying every other youtuber doesn't use clickbait

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>>16358363
My babies

Picking up a Suzuki VanVan 200 as a fuckaround farmbike tomorrow. I'm replacing my ATC90 that finally shit the bed on me, big crack in the block. I pretty much just use it for driving around to feed/water my animals, and dicking around in the woods. I have about 35 cleared acres, and 48 or so wooded acres.

I wanted something light, road legal, and with big fat tires for handling dirt roads and field crossings. The highest speeds it'll be hitting is 35-40 mph on the rural back roads here, and I won't be doing that very often. Anybody ridden one? Any experience maintaining them? I assume it'll be similar to my wife's TU250x but a bit smaller.

>>16361149
Well, besides the styling (I'm still not sold on the headlights and lower fairing of the R1, although the tank and tail are sexy), the Panigale's power delivery and engine character are much more constant. The 1199 still isn't the smoothest I've tried by a long shot, but the R1 has a really weird on/off-like throttle at anywhere below 7-8k rpm in first and second. Not an issue most of the time, but pulling away or trundling through urban area feels weird. Also, the 1199 is more comfortable for me, at 6'1. It's more wrist-heavy than the R1, but the seat's nicer, the tank feels easier to grip onto and the whole thing's just narrow and nimble as hell. Even though there's only like 8kg difference in weight, the Ducati just feels so much lighter and easier to handle.

The dash and electronics on both are fantastic, but I preferred the ability to change things on the move on the Panigale. Obviously, once you have it set up in your preferred way, it doesn't really matter since you won't mess with it much, but the whole thing was just slightly more user-friendly on the Ducati, which I wasn't expecting.

The other bike I was considering was the Aprilia RSV4, which I've liked forever, but having ridden one it just doesn't click with me. It sounds amazing, looks great and handles brilliantly, but it just didn't excite me, which I know sounds stupid when talking about a superbike.

Then of course there's the S1000RR, but I just plain don't like them, no matter how patently fantastic they are in most respects.

>>16360693
Hes the only one i find entertaining.
He makes fun of himself and does a lot of stupid shit.

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>>16361215
Noice anon.

Be sure to ride it and enjoy it.

I have a buddy who's dream bike is a Panigale and he's buying it this upcoming year but according to him he'll never track it or ride it fast because "it's too nice to let something happen to it".

Now while one does whatever he/she wishes with the things he own, I don't think I could ever enjoy having a bike on those terms.

>>16360584

>>16361170
qt

>>16361170
Post boipucci

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>>16361294
me neither. IMO there's absolutely no reason to buy a superbike and not even try to go fast. It's just a waste.

how does liability work when track riding or racing? If you lowside into someone I assume you're expected to pay for their repairs and shit right? Are there special insurance policies that cover such racing incidents?

>>16361469
When i was racing, if you hit someone, or got hit, it was just part of racing.
You knew the risk before you got on the track.

>>16361475
So if you get hit and injured and bike totaled you're expected to pay for it yourself? I'm surprised things work like that in our world where everybody is sued for everything. Are you in America?

>>16361516
Yup. In america.
Ive had my bike run over. Ive run over people. Ive been kicked and punched on track.
Its just racing man.
Motocross btw

I bought my dual sport with an aftermarket jetting and foam filter, if I fit a KN road filter on it, will I have to re-jet it? Will I lose power?

>>16361524
I don't really disagree with that, just wanting to know.
Roadracing policy generally the same as MX?

>>16361531
You don't want to put a road filter on a dual sport if you actually ride it off road. But yes, any filter that isn't a direct fit into the stock air box will most likely change flow and need a rejet.

>>16361542
Now is running it without the rejet for a good while do any damage?

>>16361563
it will run poorly, might be prone to stalling, and will probably generate a bunch of extra heat

>>16361563
If its lean it could.
Honestly though. It depends on if the new filter flows more or less air.
More air = lean
Less air = rich

>>16361574
>>16361572
Good to know, thank you friends.

>>16360547
>not buying one with all the mods already done

>>16361598
Why? Its still slower than a stock wr450

>>16361600
ah but you wanted a dual sport, yes?

>>16360547
aprilia svx 500 or whatever it is
or the 610

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>>16361608
I already have one ;)

>>16361648
>wait up guys i gotta change my oil
>o-ok ill meet you there

>>16361659
Nice meme nobike

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>>16361659
your ass will fall off long before the oil needs changing

>>16361705
Someone here has a wr450?
Sup WR bro. Im gonna buy a seat conceptz seat soon.

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>>16361714
mine was a hackup yz/wr 400
too cheap to get one of the 450s
>i say as i just bought an africa twin

>>16361648
>50/50 tires on a dirt bike

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I don't know why anyone would buy a WR over an EXC.

>>16361730
I see. I had a wr400 a long while back. Great bike.
>>16361733
They arent 50/50 and i ride on the street as well.
Excellent tires

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>>16361742
>not having both
>not getting the 530 excw

>>16361743
They look even less aggressive than a d606
I've tried a variety of DS tires and almost all of them have been unacceptable for serious offroading IMO. Two sets of rims is the answer

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>>16361779
>hold on bro wait up I just need to change my wheels real quick

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>>16361779
They are lacking in mud. Other than that i havent had issues.

>>16361122
>test ride
>implying ducati would let a nobike like you touch their bikes
>i will no longer post here

D. Because you'll never buy it

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>lien title
>you give me $2k and make the payments
>when you make the last payment I get the title and you get nothing

Do people fall for this shit?

http://santabarbara.craigslist.org/mcy/5898300124.html

>>16361091
It's his feet/ankles. Fuck him.

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>>16361803
they let me ride a monster and a diavel. didnt have the hyper though, thats all i really wanted to try

>>16361814

People probably do it all the time.

There is a legal way to change the name on a lien.

However if this guy is doing it as a scam w/ no paperwork it's awfully risky considering he may end up with the title of a crispy husk of something that used to be a Daytona 675.

>>16361824
Nice shoes phaggot

>>16361824
Boipucci anon?

>>16361814
>I wanted a bike I could just ride the hell out of and not feel bad about.
>I abused the fuck out of this molested bike and never maintained it

>>16361844
thanks breh

>>16361714
Good call, not the same WRbro but another one.

I've had Seat Concepts seats on my last two bikes. worth every fucking penny. Still need to get one for the WR.

>>16361842
>There is a legal way to change the name on a lien.

there is. You and the owner head out to the bank and explain to them you want to purchase the bike and take over the loan.

>This will be a personal deal between us

but it seems like the owner wants to do it the shady way and not let the bank know

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>>16361803
they let me ride a monster and a diavel. didnt have the hyper though, thats all i really wanted to try

>>16361751
>not getting the 530 excw
The 530 was a downgrade from the 525, fucking RFS runs forever.

>>16361870
I had a 525 before the 530.
The 530 is better in every way

>>16361874
>hold on guys i gotta rebuild my top end
>itll just take an hour and a half
>when the parts get here next week

>>16361881
Im on my 4th set of rings around 65,000 miles or so.
No big deal

>>16361874
>The 530 is better in every way
Rings every hundred hours and oil migration issues, lets not forget KTM putting the deomp on the exhaust cam backwards.

OK champ.

>>16361895
No issues with mine :)

>>16361895
what lol?
try rings every 300 hours, its not a 250cc mx bike mate.

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>>16361742
idk why anyone would buy a 4 stroke over a 2 stroke.

See, stupid arguments can be made for anything.

>TFW when buy brand new bike
>Love it for a week
>Then realise how much shit you need to buy just to get it to normie standards

>Need tank pads
>slip on to replace the trash can sized exhaust
>mirrors that show more than my shoulders
>Indicators to cover mirror holes since they were integrated
>Rear spools since for some reason they don't include them and just leave empty mounts
>Phone holder
>Tinted double bubble screen cause faster
>Tail tidy (why does no manufacturers realise that all the massive rear fenders they make end up in the bin???)

So I spent 15k on the bike and instantly have to spend $1,000+ to get it to 'normal' and $150 on first service to keep the warranty.

>>16361927
>better fuel efficiency
>smoother power
>less vibration

>>16361963
Id have those over
>More weight
>less power
>worse handling
any day

>>16361927
>See, stupid arguments can be made for anything.
earplugs are bad. hey youre right!

>>16361954
Yes.
Buying new motorcycles is for chumps, you buy them second hand with like 5000km on them so they cost maybe $7000 and already have all of the nifty bits installed.

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>>16361954
Vehicles are held to pretty stringent standards in order to be sold for road use. Plus you don't have to change any of that. It's all your preference. Personally I love the nice quiet stock exhaust, bright and visible lights and indicators, and a tail that keeps mud from flinging up on my back.

You made that choice to buy a new bike and continue to make the choice to waste money on cosmetic parts. Suck it up and quit complaining.

>>16361742
Well the WR doesn't have WP suspension for one.

>>16361984
What are you talking about?
i ride without ear plugs all the time and i have only lost around 60% of my hearing

>>16361989
Maybe we are in different financial situations. Do you let other people ride your girlfriend too you poor cuck?

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>>16362000
WHAT??

>>16361984
That was a shitposter pretending to be him, Trev is a spastic not a potato

>>16361989
worst part about buying a used bike is unfucking all those poorly executed sikk mawdz.

>>16361970
k. I wouldn't.
Also less power is only true when comparing bikes of the same displacement. That generally isn't true because thumpers come with much larger engines.

>>16361989
t. brokeboi

>>16361995
>He doesn't enjoy superior White Power™ suspension

>>16362000
10/10 would laugh again

>>16361992
Has a mud guard, fender is just so long to hold plate and reflector.
After owning 6 bikes I decided to buy new. I only paid 3 grand more than market value of a 3-5 year old one. since it was on special and to me the deprecation is worth the warranty and knowing I've broken it in properly and it hasn't been trashed.

>>16361995
I'm sorry what brand of suspension just won moto2, a class with a spec engine so suspension and chassis is literally everything?

>>16362001
Then why are you complaining about having to spend money?

your life choices make no sense.

>>16362014
Pretty much. When I go to sell I'll revert everything back to standard and sell all the aftermarket parts separately. Despite the fact i want all the mods it often puts me off when buying used hearing someone say "sikk Yoshi pipe great sound 2 it, dub bub screen looks orseme". Even though I'd go buy them myself.

>>16361954
>why does no manufacturers realise that all the massive rear fenders they make end up in the bin?
Government ruins everything.

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>>16362023
>tfw no ktm with wp suspension and white brothers exhaust

>>16362010
Probably a bit of both lets be honest.

>>16362040
Not really complaining, but if consumers got a say on how new bikes looked I'm sure everyone would want cleaner looking tails, mufflers that aren't the size of your helmet etc. Why have holes for rear bobbins and not just put some in? Why not include tank pads you can put on that fit the tank perfectly that would be mass produced for $1 each cost. You get where I'm coming from?

>>16362047
Bike has a massive mudguard over the wheel, rear fender it's extremely long and offers nothing that the tail tidy doesn't have. What country's have laws on them? I'm not talking about the 'tail tidys' that hide your plate behind the wheel. Genuinely curious

>>16362060
I do and what brand of bike did you buy?
Many brands offer things like that as optional extras when you purchase the bike.

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So.... I did a thing today.


AWWWW YEA


they even match

>>16362070
Gsxr750. Suzuki dealer didn't offer genuine parts. They could aftermarket bits in if I asked but I import Chinese motorcycle parts in weekly so just threw them in my last shipment.

>>16362095
Post dads bikes

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>>16362069
Well for one most modern bikes come with rather short tail sections that don't even stick out as far as the wheel. I'm pretty sure the tail and license plate have to be on the rearmost portion of the bike so they also have to add that extension to make it at the very rear. Also license plates have to be mounted completely vertically which doesn't really work if it's mounted under the normal tail above the wheel because the tire will hit it when the suspension compresses.

Also such short fenders allow the rain to fly up onto your back. The fender extension that hangs down below the wheels stops that as well as reducing the amount of rain and debris flung up in the air behind the bike.

Pic related. See how the normal tail section is way too short and it takes that stupid cheater fender to actually reach behind the wheel?

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>>16362108
ok

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>>16362095
resize your pics bruh

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>>16362114
This wasn't a problem before the edgy short tail trend started. Yeah there was a slightly ugly plastic piece dangling down to mount the plate but since the actual tail extended to the rearmost point of the bike they didn't have to add a retarded arm sticking off the back of the bike.

>>16362114
Appreciate that. I'll double check plate can't hit the wheel on full compression, I hadn't thought of that as stupid as it sounds but I'm sure it will clear it.

I have to take a lot of stuff to work everyday so for time being the bike is only used for fun and commuting a couple days a week so not too concerned about the rain. Again, something I hadn't thought of. Thanks for clarifying

>>16362123
I've got it set to fill the screen, I always forget about this lol. I should just set my phone to take smaller pics so that I don't have to resize them all.


I went and rode around with no helmet or gear in the pouring rain when I got home. Shits fun. I can tell I'm going to love this baiku.

>>16362069
Not sure about countries. I did some searching and only came up with this
http://drivinglaws.aaa.com/tag/motorcycle-equipment/
>NV and OK require fenders
A lot of the time when one area they have to sell to needs a part, the bikes they produce for everywhere else get it too
>>16362114
>tail and license plate have to be on the rearmost portion of the bike
probably the best explanation for why they are all so ugly. Couldn't find a source though.

>>16362095
>2 bikes
>still cant wheelie

>>16362139
new
>>16362139
thread
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boyz
>>16362139

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>>16362141
I see.
Made a mount that sits the plate where this massive fender starts. Makes it look cleaner but still just as visable as the original.