/ORG/

Fuck tracks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcgKdBBqq4s

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>>16217354
they look like silverback gorillas from the thumbnail on the catalog

>tfw no Arctic Truck-modded Hilux

Why even live?

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>>16217354
>>16217393
>'The all new toyota harambe edition'

>>16217459

Dude my parents are moving to trysil, do you know any good places to "overland" or some place to sneak-offroad a bit?

>>16217489
They are? Hm, damn... not many folks move here these days

I'll ask a friend of mine who has been doing offroad and also a bit of overlanding, he'll know some good places where you can play around without fuckers snooping

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>>16217489
>>16217489
>>16217489
Wtf. How did the old thread get archived so quickly?!

Anyway, here's baefu with truccfu

>D U R A T E C
>U
>R
>A
>T
>R
>A
>C
>S

>>16217505
I think there has been some spamming/flooding going on

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>>16217505
>tay keeps a fucking tay calendar in his truck
wew lad

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Don't have too many pics of the truck in the snow. Gotta change that this season.

>>16217354
That stance! Love this look. I wonder why it isn't it more popular outside the artic regions, mainly Iceland...

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>>16217508
Oh that's why the catalog is so short and why my post was thought to be spam.
Darn. There goes those weird fight threads, too. ):

Anyway. Here's the best picture of the duratracs.


[spoiler]>>16217510
I TOLD YOU THAT WAS A RARE TAY. Y U MUST DEPRECIATE MUH TAY STOCKS[/spoiler]

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>>16217501

oh you're coming with

>>16217618
Where on earth will I go with a non-lifted '03 on 245/70/16's?

>>16217637

We'll find out and ill yank you out if you get stuck

>>16217656
That'll be embarassing

I even managed to get stuck in the Ford Transit Courier I use at work yesterday... was inside the house of a "patient", and when I got out the front had slipped and turned a good 30 degrees downhill

Had to get pulled by a friend who lived closeby and his Pajero... oh the shame

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>>16217675

Hah, nice.
I got stuck like this once. A dick came at me full speed on a narrow road so i had to put the car in the ditch to avoid a crash. Ended up 6 centimeters from a steel post right next to one of my fender flares, and a phone pole behind the bed. Couldnt move the car a millimeter or the car would have drifted in to the steel post and damaged the fender flare which costs like 9600 nok at arctic trucks painted and on the truck.. called viking to come pull me out instead .. now that was embarrassing.

>>16217675

Oh btw did you ever figure out if you knew "Geir" who worked on the bike paths on the mountain?

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>>16217688

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>>16217675
>>16217675
I've had to get my 2wd colorado get pulled out by my friend's acura TSX repeatedly

Once there were actually spectators...

Offroading on non-offroad capable vehicles makes you pay more attention to the bumps and ridges which I have found helped me a lot starting out.
With 4wd nowadays, I get too lazy and occasionally crazehhh

>>16217688
>>16217696
Aww, that must feel like shit - still, it wouldn't be worth risking the AT flare

>>16217693
Nope, must be one of the guys I havent met. I've been there mostly during weekends when they're off

>>16217354
Should I buy a 4Runner or a Lexus IS?

For me it's either one of em.

>>16217744
Lexus GX.

Age old question lads
Optima or Diehard?

Hey guys, so I might have the opportunity to trade my acura for another car. It's a 2002 Nissan pathfinder, with the 5 speed transmission and a vq35de. My only hesitation is that it has 172k miles, and burns a bit of oil.

My acura has 102k miles, is pretty much mint and has no problems. Dudes looking for something like my car for trade, but I feel like my car is worth a bit more than his. Do you think I should try to make this trade plus some cash? Or do you think I should avoid the
>Nissan

http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/5890668393.html

>>16217767
Optima if you have the cash

>>16217744
>Lexus GX
4runner

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>>16217997
The Hardbody ended in '97 and Frontier's last generation (worth buying/ talking about) lasted until around 2004. One downside is then you'll have two very thirsty vehicles that both could be prone to rust.
Personally, I think that Nissan trade request would be nice if you can get $2000 off him but would not actively seek it out myself. ">Nissan"
doesn't apply here, though. Also looks to be a good oberlander but will be annoying to fix and jack up due to commercial availabilities.

One thing I'm going to add is I really, really like the aesthetic of larger old Nissan vehicles. 4 door SUV that looks like a 2 door is very appealing to the eye. If only they made it slightly more like the hard body... Ah well - at least it's not a fucking modern frontier.

$3800 could've bought that International Harvester Scout that I saw at my mech's yesterday.

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>>16217688
>Being scared to scuff the paint a little
You sound a bit like a fag

>>16218140

ok bro

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Howd you spend your thanksgiving, /org/?

I went shooting with my family and did some goofing off in the Taco

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>>16218156
Eating a fuckload of food and hanging out at the beach. Went fishing two days ago tho.

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>TFW ORG is moving so quickly that shit gets registered as spam.

that's a good feel

>>16218108
Thanks m8. I've always liked the look of these trucks, they were pretty cool. Parts should be easily available though, the vq35 was put in literally everything.

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>>16218179
3.5L looks well enough to tow 5000lb so looks powerful enough. I reiterate, though: if you get a decent wad of cash out of the trade, you can easily do it to pay for gas OR you could flip the Nissan again since you somehow managed to get your Acura's new worth up to $5500.

I'm more worried about the body of the 02 Nissan. But not worried enough.

>>16218177
That's a nice wheel distance... It'd be a shame if someone...

[spoiler]STANCED IT (you could totally do it and still rock climb btw) [/spoiler]

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>>16218210
>stanced

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>>16218212
Pics of both wheels and axles or else you're a faggot

[spoiler]though, if you do, you'll be a stancefaggot... so. uh. yeah. i don't know where that puts us.[/spoiler]

>>16218156
>california
>shooting

Though I can't speak since
>canuckistan
>shooting

I'm mainly more jealous since we don't have vast amounts of crown land desert where there's no wind and 500yards of open area to empty unload 665 .223s in a minute.

Though I did just buy some tannerite I didn't know we could get up here. Maybe I'll use them to set up IED "jump boards" to eject my ATVs up in the air for maximum fun.
Or I could... not.

>>16218210
>Rust
>Colorado
We don't salt roads.

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>>16218228
Yeah shooting here isn't the easiest thing, but I have plenty of family in the imperial valley (in between San Diego and Arizona) that know good spots where the sheriff won't hear us

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>>16218237
>>>>>>>>>>

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>>16217354
>be me
>be gifted 1995 K1500
>clutch is shit and goes out
>having it towed to a local shop
>retarded tow truck driver thinks to take the parking break off you have to put it in gear
>juuuust enough fluid left in the clutch to get it in gear
>puts key in ignition for some reason
>wont roll down ramp now
>starts to rock it back and forth
>truck starts up, takes off, hits pole
>pic related
>it was on camera, and the shop owner saw it
>AAA threatens to rip genitalia off towing company owner
>get my ass kissed so hard I have no need to toilet paper now.

Welp, I'm getting a new front end for free.
Also my ABS light keeps staying on, how worried should I be about this?

>>16218315
Chevys are bad about the parking brake pedal not coming up all the way causing the brake light to stay on.

>>16218315
Holy fuck please gief video. Also your face during the whole time.

That imagery makes up for the fact that other places don't needlessly salt their roads like we do in Onterrible cities (or oversalt, should be the word).

I remember you, Kanon! So I guess the clutch issue was fucked afterall, eh? What was wrong with it that needed fixing and how is the transmission?
Also, ABS light is probably a sensor issue. It could either be a sensor malfunction or brake line has some sort of minor malfunction with either parking or fluids. That's a hard one since ABS is a bitch to fix most of the time without paying more than $300.

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>>16218325
ABS and Parking Brake light are two different things, anon. They both look like they're sitting on top of a turtle shell but one says "ABS" on it and the other either has an exclamation mark or a red P. ABS is a yellowish orange turtle and Parking is a red turtle.

>>16218108
>International Harvester Scout
>$3800
Literally where? And how many miles?

>>16218342
>What was wrong with it that needed fixing and how is the transmission?

The mechanics opinion was that the pressure plate is failing, not the actual clutch.

This kinda makes sense to me since it wasn't slipping and makes the truck stall just fine like it should. Still, having to turn the engine off to put it into reverse then start it again kinda wireds me out.

Im hoping it is a bent clutch fork, or some thing minor like that. I'm going to have 4 weeks off from college soon I'll be fist deep in there working on it.

The transmission is pretty loud, but I think that is from previous owners not bolting on all the covers and foam insulation when they worked on it.

>That's a hard one since ABS is a bitch to fix most of the time
I fucking hate ABS, its so unnecessary, im not 16 and im not a woman I know how to apply the breaks.

Its just that the ABS light stays on and then sometimes the red break light comes on as well. Everything I know about breaks makes me shit my pants a bit when it happens.

>>16218140
Its a stupid expensive fender flare and I also think it has quite some delivery time, so I dont blame him

>>16218372
Could just be any of the transfer shafts anywhere along the drivetrain. My U-connectors in my Ranger are starting to fail which causes the majority of my transmission sounds and is quite common for truccs in general.
The best way to diganose an issue is get someone qualified to drive with you at 120 on the freeway and listen to the sounds (or explain it to them). Once they get unbearably loud, then it's time for a rebuilding of an axis or converter in the transmission or whatever the actual issue is.
I'll have that done come April in time for mudding season but it should be fine for now. There really isn't much you can do unless you know how to repair axles and have the equipment for it. How the fuck do you parallel park?!

The clutch issue sounds like something you can diagnose, though. Why bring it to the mechanic and drive it away in mildly shitty condition, anyway? Muh schekils?


I like the foot massage ABS gives me when I offroad.

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>>16218403
Oh also, have you taken this thing offroading yet!? :D
I mean, in your current predicament, it might be wise to keep it off the trails (what with the annoying reverse issue) but yeah! Off roading!!

>>16218403
>How the fuck do you parallel park?!
>parallel parking
>in oklahoma
>ever

muh sides

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Hey /org/
>TFW no van dwelling GF from Washington living with you in the winter
Going to be living in an SUV, will save up for a van so I can make it a 4x4.
Until then, what SUV should I get? Will be living in it for 3 years.
>Isuzu trooper
>Ford excursion
>Toyota 4runner
>Something else like a Subaru
Please specify year as well.
3k budget.
GO!

>>16218511
4runner, no competition. Most reliable and most support. Get a 2nd or 3rd gen one. easy to find in you price rang. 3rd gens are SUPER comfy inside as well, three of my friends own them and when we go on camping trips we don't bring tents, too fucking comfy inside.

>>16218537
here is a friends 3rd gen 96 4cyl 2wd 4runner. 3 inch suspension lift and no other mods.

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>>16218579
fuck, forgot image

>>16218583
>2wd
I'm sorry, but no.
I need a 4x4 for the camping and fishing I want to bring my dad with :/

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>>16218603
you can buy a 4x4, but so you know finding any 4x4 that is 3k and able to be lived out of is very difficult. Most SUV 4x4's are 6cyl, older generations of the 4runner (and toyotas 4x4 pickup) have 4wheeldrive with a 4cyl option, but these are more rare, and more beat from being used how you want to use it. Many of these 4cyl 4x4's are 4500 to 5000 in no rust or little rust condition. You have to keep in mind about how much more material and parts you pay for when getting a 4wheel drive car. I recommend you stray from suv's and look more at Toyota's Tacomas with a camper shell. Or Nissan's D-series trucks. (d21's or d20's) Here is an example of a newer Tacoma with problems for 3k. Hope this input helps you dude!

>>16218638
also get a manual, you will save a lot of money there too.

>>16218511
consider a
>GMC yukon
any year
>tahoe
any year
>bronco II
not really that big
>bronco
90's
>Explorer
early 2000's ones are xbox huge and super cheap. pretty reliable but shit budget.

why the fuck would you want to live in an SUV

>>16218689
>shit budget
shit gas mileage*

they get about 18 highway I think

>>16218638
who said i need a 4 cylinder? :/

>>16218732
cheaper, better mileage. in your situation it wouldn't make much sense to be paying so much more while trying to save for a van.

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>>16218743
if you have to live in a car, you want something with space. a 4 runner really doesn't have much space.

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>>16218755

>>16218755
>>16218769
trying to work with this guys shitty budget.

>>16218771
yeah dude, an Explorer would be fine, or a tahoe

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>>16217688
>Hah, nice.
>I got stuck like this once. A dick came at me full speed on a narrow road so i had to put the car in the ditch to avoid a crash.
>Car in the ditch
>Car

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>>16218511
Also consider any year Suburban. Sure, you lose a tiny bit of off road capability and maneuverability due to size but you make up for it even more in cargo capacity. Pic related is the inside of my "97 for reference.

Same can be said for the Excursion but they're still ridiculously expensive compared to Suburbans.

>>16218379
>putting shit on your 4x4 you're scared to scuff or crack

Might as well bought a civic

>>16218932
He is in a ditch. If he was to attempt getting out of there chances are he'd damage the flare and maybe even more, and as such I can see why he opted to get help. Its not like he is out on the trails or doing something were there is no option of rescue and where damage is to be expected - why would he cause damage when he had the option of recovering the car with no damage? Hell, a recovery costs way less than a new flare for those things

>>16218932

>cracking flares and potentially ripping it off monging around in the ditch because some mad memer on /o/ is jealous of the arctic truck said so

yeah i dont think so :^)

>>16218511
>3k budget for a truck you plan to literally live out of
you have no sense of reality. there isnt a $3k truck out there that will meet all of your criteria and actually be be dependable enough to live out of.

plan to spend at least $5-6k and have at least another $1k on hand to baseline it and for extra parts.

>>16219276
This.
$3k is going to get you nothing but an utter shitbox that will need lots of repairs and maintenance. Wouldnt necessarily be a problem if you werent planning on making it your fucking house you dumb poorfag lmao.

>>16218250
>dat reaction
>why am i laughing so hard
Ah thats right. Because if I lived anywhere besides Alberta, my dad's 70s Bronco would still be drivable.

>>16218237
>We don't salt roads.
are you retarded? this is 100% false.
depends on the area but they either use that liquid chloride shit (even worse) or the same salt everyone else uses
kys

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>heep wrongler renegay

>>16219703
They only throw down salt when there's ice forming on the road, and it's very little at that. Most of the time it's just sand.

I just bought an '86 with literally no underside or frame rust. If they salted the roads here like they do back east, it would have died a brown death long ago.

>>16219276
>>16219675
I have 13k, I'm just not going to spend 5-6k on a isuzu or some old chevy suburb or excurs that's 20+ yrs old and has 150k+ mi
sound terrible with money tbqh famalam

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>>16220546
Why are you choosing and old isuzu if you have 13 000 to spend?
Suburban would be an otay get but you could get an base fee imported G-Wagon if you have another 2000-3000 with that money.

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>>16218511
>>16218689
>>16218706

Yeah, don't get a Yukon.
Have a '96 SLT with the 5.7 Vortec
4x4 is shit and the gas is shittier.
Literally got stuck in about an inch of snow with ice underneath.

It throws off good heat though, and plenty of space but if you are gonna be living in it it's going to be spendy.

Pic Related, muh Yuk.

>>16218140

Not all of us drive piles of shit with AWD.

>>16217505
Duratec is god tier

>>16220665
I thought Yukons and Tahoes were 2 doors?
Also, aren't they on the same 1500 platform meaning they're just the K-series with a permanent top?

I mean, gas mileage is a good reason why to not like it but I've never heard of the offroad capabilities being "shit". Mainly just rust.

>>16220590
Also, I'm a fucking illiterate retard. Yeah, I misread the "not" in this post: >>16220546
If you plan on living out of something, a van might be a significantly better idea due to the ability to actually insulate them from both sound and temperature change.

>>16219703
I'm pretty sure they only sand the roads in Denver famalam

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>>16220701
The GMC Yukon and Chevy Tahoe both share the same platform as the GMT400, so yes it does have the same chassis as a 90's C/K 1500. As far as im concerned the Tahoe and the Yukon have always had a 4 door/ 2 door option.

It's offroad capacities on the other hand, keep in mind the '96 Yukon 4 door 4x4 has a curb weight of 5,500 pounds while the '96 C/K 1500 extended cab has a curb weight of 4,057 pounds. In the C/K, in hairy offroad situations you can always add extra weight in the bed for more tire traction, while in the Yukon you are practically screwed (unless you throw in a bunch of sandbags by the wheel wells inside).

I was told it had something to do with the wheelbase in another thread, and center of gravity or something, but I doubt it since the Yukon/Tahoe share a frame. Perhaps it does have something to do with that.

Pic Related, sank in a small mud rut a week after I bought the Yukon.

>>16220896
Woops.
Not a week but like a month.

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>>16220896
In my old 2wd Colorado, keeping the PSI 2-3 integers below manufacturer recommendations allowed me to offroad with okay efficiency (for a 2 wheel dribe trucc, anyway). Might be something to consider especially with a 2 ton, 2 story land battleship like yours.
Since it's GMC, I think it's an Admiral Sanchez class battleship named after the famous Admiral in its country of origin.

/shitpost

Centre of gravity does make sense but that doesn't explain why the Bronco is such a capable offroader given a much higher centre. Front heavy (65:35?), top heavy vehicles aren't the easiest to remove out of hair situations, especially when they weighs two tonnes.

Though, let's not prove a point and possibly confirm our guesses incorrectly. FX trims (and the GM / Chebby equivalent that I'm too drunk to remember right now... CZ? AK? M4? Something like that) on Ferds are angled so that the rear axle is slightly put towards the centre allowing for a larger bed sag. This allows less to and carry rating but a more capable offroad. They either do this or do something with the weight and suspension.
This is also how modern Suburbans (and the shitty Ferd competition) allows for a "capable" offroader.

TL;DR. It could just be the design of the axles and that would be my guess. You're right sandbags could help (I use cinderblocks with some wood to keep them in place) but on a 2 tonne vehicle with a tow capacity of 6000lbs *, I don't think it'd really make that big of a difference.

*(i couldn't find the figure of the Yukon tow for that year so I just took the K1500 off memory and subtracted 1000lb from it)

>>16220778
Wow. Must be some strong power sanders. I can't even sand the rust off my shed without wanting to kill myself from the screeching.

Does a manual really make that big of a difference offroad?

>>16221233
yeah, kinda doesn't matter though. I drive a manual offroad, but mostly because I wanted slightly better mileage and more fun.

>>16221264
All I'm really going to do is logging roads and light over landing and auto's are 2/3 the price of manuals..

>>16221285
that's odd, because usually manuals are much cheaper than an auto. Being that they use less moving parts and less material.

>>16221291
The PNW market is different, everyone who knows anything knows that manuals are superior

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Browsing some 4x4's on craigslist, noticed this.
>OJ bronco
I kek'd

>>16220546
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/cto/5891114448.html
found what you need bro, the 3k landrover.

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I'm going to start saving up for a Cherokee XJ for serious off roading, starting next year. The liberty is lots of fun, but I'd like to move on from IFS to solid axle

Anything I should have on mind when I start saving and looking?
>good parts and accessories
>what year of XJ is best year
>does it actually look like an XJ?
etc

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>>16221348
>Lanb Ober Discobery II
>2000s
>automatic
>V8
The maintenance fees and gas would be ridiculous for living out of. It might even be cheaper to put a portable petrol generator on the roof to power your life instead of using the V8 + battery.

>>16221413
maybe a lift kit or a disk spacer. roof rack. where do you live might determine coolant / rust system
Any year before 2006
what do you mean look like an XJ?
Good for you for solid axle upgrade - what do you have right now?

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>>16221456
>what do you mean look like an XJ?
joke about flowcharts
>does it look like an xj
>no
>try again

>Good for you for solid axle upgrade - what do you have right now?
the liberty in the pic and pic related

The plan is to use the Liberty as a dd but the Cherokee for desert fun and when I don't feel like liberty for the day

>made an appointment to check out the nissan
let's hope he doesn't sell it. He really wants the acura, and I want to test out the frontier.

>>16220975
this is new to me, I have never seen it in denver my entire life but I could be wrong.

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>>16221519
This confuzzles me ):
I think it looks like an XJ. I don't know, anon. This is hurting my head.

Why not get a TJ for desert crawling. Those big tyres go vroooooohoooom psssssst and spits sand everywhere!

>>16221547
D'uhhh-

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>>16220975
literally what

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>>16220665
>>16220896

What's your final drive? If you dial back the rear end and opt for less aggressive tires you can probably save some MPGs. My first burb had that motor and it ran very well. Only issue I ran into with that truck was the cat was starting to clog, or problems arising out of me beating the shit out of it, going overboard on trails. Which brings me to my next point...

I blew out my 4 wheel drive after sending the truck airborne. It was equipped with unsafely bald ROAD TIRES! I could still go more places than friends with lifted F150s and Jeeps with mud tires... It all comes down to technique. Granted, the burbs are bigger, and as such might have better weight balance, so I could be wrong...

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A picture of my old suburban, to help keep this thread going. 41.5" PitBull rockers are tits!

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>>16221766
anon if you fucking post this image ever again I cannot guarantee your safety.

>>16221766
the one in the front could be a real qt if she lost weight

>>16221337
>El Cajon
Kek

>>16222534
Redneck as fuck. I like it man.

>>16222534
What a behemoth. Also, your fingernail looks suspiciously hot pink in that picture. Are you a trap?

>>16222781
>>>/r9k/

>>16222534
454 or 350? And what kind of gearing are you running to turn those sumbitches

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>>16222797
It was a 350 TBI motor, had Dana 60 front and 14 bolt rear axle. 5.13 gears, did well off road, only got uglier... LOL

>>16222858
I beat the shit out of that suburban, until the transmission gave up the ghost. I then parted it out since the body was totally thrashed. Have a 4runner now that I'm ever so slowly fixing up, not gonna be anywhere near as big. That suburban started attracting way too much police attention as well, which is never good.

>>16222874
>That suburban started attracting way too much police attention as well,
in what way?

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>>16222880
because there's no correlation with beat up trucks and having 5 pounds of meth

>>16222880
Because the bumpers were over the legal limit, the tires stuck out past the fenders and the rear bumper was basically flat so they didn't consider it a "real" bumper anymore. Also all the dents and sharp edges didn't help either.

>>16223188
Bumper height I mean, they are only allowed <30" from the ground to the bottom of the bumper, PA is semi strict about bumper heights and tires sticking out past the body.

>>16217363
cool video, thanks

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>>16221322
>manuel is superior for off roading

>>16223276
it is

>>16223375
ah yes let me just burn the clutch every time I want to get going again on a steep hill then accidentally wheelspin and come sliding down

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>>16223276
I dunno, man. Raul is pretty badass offroading.

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>>16223407
>clutch burn
>steep hill
>wheel spin
Manuel gives me lower trans gearing so the likelihood of wheelspin is decreased. Also, you burn your clutch like I burn my lungs on shatter yesterday:
>hurts for a bit
>wake up coughing with excess phlegm and smells a bad
>fine the next day (or next hour)

Speaking of shatter:
>>16221766
I was calling his GMC Yukon a flagship Land Barge built in Mexico.

Then I shitposted about "sanding the roads".

>>16223407

why would you do that?

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ywn contribute to thread but is cold outside

>>16223774
Otay. I think it's finally time to get a full winch set instead of calling up friends and having them tow me out with four ratchets and clanks.

This thing is fuckin $100 for a two tonne (looks like UTV) recovery winch. Is it a smart idea to get this with the appropriate shackles and get the wires replaced with a 3/8 so I don't die if it snaps?
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-electronics/city-of-toronto/100-obo-4500-pund-12-volt-winch-for-sale-used/1219032310?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

I could just spend ten times as much and get
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-other-auto-parts-and-accessories/city-of-toronto/tundra-10000-pound-winch/1219547852?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
which looks like it doesn't need a cable swap.

Maybe I'll just buy a 12000lb new for $600.

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>>16223994
Oh yeah. I forgot it's Blacc Friday.
Amazon has this with free fucking shipping somehow. My poor mailman:
https://www.amazon.ca/Smittybilt-97495-XRC-Winch-Capacity/dp/B00JXS3BXI

>5/16th wire
It's for a Ranger and not a two tonne monstrosity so it should be fine, eh? Jeep TJs have a similar curb weight but closer axles.

I'm also never doing such intense offroading lacking necessity so the worst case situation is getting stuck in the snow up north Ontario.

Say what you want about taking qts offroading, but they don't help at all when you're stuck in -10 degree weather with no snowshoes.
Good moral support, though.

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>>16221413
>>16221519

Love mine. Just back from a week in the desert.
Where are you having your "desert fun?"

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>>16224081
>tfw
>no canadian q t to snowshoe 5 miles to help you get unstuck
>come back with two dead brownbears
>uses moose to drag you out of ditch

>>16224122
This is exactly how it works

t. canadian

>>16224092
skid plate info pls for appropriate desert fun

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>>16224177
A yuuuuuge, one piece or easily sliding (front pieces folding over back pieces and aggregates along the bottom of the drivetrain) individual pieces.

Also: a lawn sprinkler under your vehicle afterwards if you so happen to hit a few sand patches and don't have large cover skids.

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Looking at new Tacomas. Is there any reason to go with the V6 TRD over a manual 4cyl SR 4x4 for $7k+ less? I've test driven an older Tacoma with the 2.7l i4 and it's slow, but I'm not looking to race it. Just want something reliable, dependable and /out/.

>>16224479
>millionaire T swift rocking 50 dollar payless nikes
u wot
Like jay leno rolling around in a corolla..

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>>16224728
It's reliable but not comparatively over the V6. Probably the only modern trucc I'd pay money for. Gas mileage is a moot point.
But the real kicker is the torque (and HP, I guess, too). It's at like 180 compared to the V6's 260.

I-4s selections are only made for light truccs (I guess now these are really mid sized truccs) for fleeters to save companies and governments a few thousand dollars per unit. Also for people who want a trucc but are 3poorfag.

Towing demands a V6. Fun demands a V6. Also, the resale value will make that $7000 a bit more worth it it in the long run, too.

Here's a question: why not get a Ranger instead? :D? Same gas mileage, maybe more reliable, and you won't care if you hit a dent in the thing.

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>>16224770
It's also worth noting that importing a Hilux is relatively easy in certain states. You could consider one of those.
D I E S E L

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right or left /o/?

>>16225198
>both have independent front suspension
Neither

>>16224092
nevada

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>>16225435
Same here desert bro. Have a vacation house an hour out of Vegas. Great wheelin'!

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>>16225220
>wanting a solid axle on a pre-runner/high speed build

wew

>>16225198
>le battle wagon ebic meme!!
when will those faggots realize fucking subarus just werent meant to be lifted. the components cant take it all you end up doing is breaking a cv joint every 10k miles. get a truck and fuck off already

>>16225553
nofunallowed.jpg

>>16225501
>muh high speed build

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>>16218511
I love my trooper but I'd find something roomier if you gotta live in it. Also parts aren't as easy to find as other brands

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>>16218511
If you're able to make a smaller mid-fullsize like a 4Runner or a Trooper work, I'd be looking fair at Mitsubishi Pajero/Monteros.
Heaviest duty drivetrain of the lot that's on par with Land Cruisers, without the Landcruiser tax.

Otherwise I'd favour Excursions or Suburbans.

>>16217505
nice calendar

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>>16223414
Kek

Hey I'm looking to buy some led lightbar and led pod fogs to put on my truck anybody got a suggestion for a good brand. I want rigid but they are expensive. Was looking at maybe blackoak? Seem to be good quality.

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>>16226738
Auxbeam has interesting stuff, but that stuff is too big for my application. Good prices though!

>>16224820

how is that easy? you mean 25 year old trucks?

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>>16226738
http://m.ebay.com/itm/322291103684?_mwBanner=1

I've got this, very good for its price

Mind you; I think its actually just 300w, as I'm able to run it on a 30a relay and 30a fuse... still, damned good driving light

>>16227538
Hey, benzene. Since you're here, I'm going to migrate that winch question here too.
If doing 2-4 winch jobs per hour on 2ton vehicles, is it worth running an alternator and adding an extra battery?

I mean, the winch is $700 might as well do another $300 in batteries.
See >>16224081

>>16227701
How long are the intervals? If the vehicle is running all the time between intervals and with the winch on I wouldn't be too concerned. I'd bring an extra 100ah battery or similar just to make sure, but as long as your alternator & batteries are in good condition it should be alright

Get the winch and just try it out somewhere safe, figure out how much you have to use it before you feel it starting to lack power

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>>16227711
Well, I've been offroading for utilitarian porpoises only to get to sites and cottages and have only recently sought out offroading as a hobby.
So to be honest, I'm not quite sure. This is mainly so that my friend's personal 2wd Ram1500 (he got it 2016 showroom throwout for $14 500) can come with me on trails and I'll pull him out.

How to diagnose alternator issues? I don't think the alternator has been looked at in the past 6 years but I did just get a new battery. If I'm going to be bringing more batteries, why don't I just hook up a second one at that point? There's an area I might be able to make it fit above the front wheelwell.

Is the 5/16ths of an inch wire good enough? Or should I spend the extra $200 and look for a 3/8ths as you mentioned?

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>>16227862
>dat pic
>I mean to say /org/ generals
Remember when /org/ generals died after 18 hours? D:

>>16225501
Different builds. High speed for offroading vs offroading with need to get there. But I suspect you know that.

>>16227482
Are you the same tacofag? If so, maybe the hilux isn't worth nicheing out on. Especially if the Ranger and S-10s (up to 2010) exist.

>>16225884
>>16224742
Thanks, annie!

>>16227862
The easy way; take a multimeter, put it to 20v and test it out on the battery with the car not running. It should be like 12.4 or above, although it can be more depending on the battery and condition

With the engine running it should be like 13.5-14v. This can also vary with the engine, but anything under 13v could be worth getting looked at

You might aswell hook up the extra battery right away - then you'll keep it nice and charged when driving normally, and less stress when you suddenly need the extra power

I wouldn't recommend using steel wire - a rope does pretty much just as fine. The wire is sleeker, easier to clean, lasts longer and can take more weight, but a steel wire with a few tons of tension WILL kill you when it snaps, while a rope will just break

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>>16227905
Ha!
That's what we in the biz call "RIP"

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>>16227941
>muh muh
How long before taking it to an exxxpensive alternator shoppe?

>>16227905
1cm kevlar rope has a tensile strength of 10 000 kg. Do you use that? What happens to kevlar when it snaps? Looks cheap enough, too and I can just throw this kevlar in a bucket of acetone to clean it, too.

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>>16227905
>I wouldn't recommend using steel wire - a rope does pretty much just as fine. The wire is sleeker, easier to clean, lasts longer and can take more weight, but a steel wire with a few tons of tension WILL kill you when it snaps, while a rope will just break

It depends on what you're doing with your rig. Rock crawlin n whatnot, you're better off with rope but if you in heavy mud, abrasive environments steel cable is the way to go longevity wise. I've seen others snapping cables, if you put a dampener on the line while you're winching you'll be fine. Just use common sense and stand clear of the cables range and have your hood up while winching.

I run a 8500# superwinch on my jeep, 5/16 cable, snatch blocks and rigging out the wazoo, pulled my jeep out and full size pick ups buried right to the frame in mud. Haven't had a single issue in the two years I've been running this winch.

Convince me to spend 500$ on a 2017 Jeep cherokee anniversary edition.

It looks like a warthog, from halo. I'm very tempted. Doesn't seem to come in manual though, and 9 speed trans.

>>16228084
Don't do it. Had a 2016 while my Jeep was in for warranty work and it made me a very sad camper.

>>16228062
>beep beep beep
Hehe.

Are you in the north/mid west? Looks like a quite the conqueror. Info on the fog lights, too, please.

I also read up on the synthetics/ropes vs. steel and this was pretty much the conclusion. Up here in the Canadian shield and mudder areas, rocks, sand, dirt, and whatever get into the rope / kevlar and abrade it. Steel looks to be the only long term option.

So 5/16s are good noeuhg, eh? Do I have to actually buy a blanket or can I just use the cinderblocks that I wheel around with anyway?

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>>16228084
Since this is on ORG, I'll say:
9 speed gears means weirdly geared ratios. My BMW X3 already has 8 gears and other than highway efficiency, it is not better than a 6 geared vehicle. Will be heavily annoying offroad.
You can get a 15 year old XJ for the three month's payment on a new Cherokee and the 15 year old will outperform the new vehicle offroad any day.

Come to think of it. Unless you're going to be mallcrawling every day and using it for comfort, there is no upside to getting a 2017 Jeep Cherokee. They're also known to break down and have Jeep/Chrysler gaslight you to try to weasel out of their warranty.

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>>16228120
Southwestern Ontario actually, I do a lot of my wheeling in the Canadian shield about 6 hours north of here.

KC Apollo Pro fogs mounted on the bumper and Rugged Ridge spots on the a pillar, it puts out enough light to see where you're going hah.

You can use your floor mats, a heavy jacket, blankets, w/e item you have that you can drape around the cable with a bit of weight. I have thick heavy rubber floor mats in my jeep that I use when I'm winching.

>>16228179
Buh. I do rockyruns and trails between Guelph, Kingston, and Nippissing all the time. Holla @@@ me

Also in the market for some HID foglights and am just tempted to get my mechanic recommended $250 pair out of sheer laziness. I'll look into those, though.

>>16228198
5got contact information.

Here's my throwaway email for spam messages that I check only when I need to

[email protected]

add up senpai

>>16227941
Thats not with the engine running, I hope?

>>16228002
It'll work just fine. I think what my buds use are Spectra 9.5mm ropes, which has a breaking point at about 5 ton I believe, so a 10 ton should be more than enough

Kevlar should do just fine when snapping - it is a fabric, after all. Never used it tho, so dont quote me

>>16228062
The guys I know who do "serious" offroading just swap out the ropes every year to stay safe

But yeah, you are right - if you use your head you can use pretty much any material for wire and do fine

>>16228198
Amazon.ca has some wonderful deals from time to time, I got the KCs for $85 shipped to my door. Keep an eye out on there.

>>16228221
>muh black sunday
https://www.amazon.ca/KC-Hilites-151-Driving-Polymax/dp/B006V7TBBA

This?

I'm in Parry Sound testing out my new Russian SKSs on Tuesday if anyone wants to hit up. I bought three at the Cabela's black friday sale.

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Just picked this up the other day.

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>>16228272
Also have this

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>>16228279
And this.

The XJ in the back used to be mine but I sold it recently.

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>>16228217
How are Norway's gun laws? Also, yes. No engine running. So I guess sand / winter crawling, I can switch out the metal wires for the kevlar. Looks like 0.6cm thickness will be able to hold 6 tonnes so that should be more than enough.
They have high tension and abrasion resistant polymers as well but they just look expensive and niche. I'll test out the breaking point on kevlar since my profession allows me to buy lots of kevlar for very cheap.

Time to look at winch mounting. Always helpful there, benziggity! Enjoy the rest of your cold Sunday.

>>16228279
>>16228286
>>16228272
sooo clean

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>>16217363
why not both?

>>16228287
>cold
Its fucking 2c/36f out... it should NOT be this war in the end of November

And our gun laws? Random question, but I'll tag along. Americans would label our laws as very restrictive, but once you get inside the system and learn it you can see that its pretty endurable

>shotguns, any gauge
You can get one legally in your name at 16 if you've done the national hunting test, which you can do at the age of 14 and onwards. Between 14 and 16 you can borrow a shotgun (you have to sign a contract between you and the person you're borrowing it from, and both of you will have to keep a copy of the contract) to use for hunting and shooting activities. Total length of weapon must be 840mm or longer, and barrell must be 400mm or longer.
>rifle, any calibre
Legally in your name at 18, can be borrowed at the age of 14 to be used for small-game hunting. You can only hunt small game until you're 16. All calibres up to, but not including, .50BMG/12.7mm are allowed.
Length of weapon is the same as shotgun
>pistol
21 or older, and you have to be an "active" member of a shooting club for atleast the last six months, preferrably one that is involved in pistol/revolver shooting. Length of weapon must be under 840mm, and barrell under 40mm. Maximum caliber allowed is .44 magnum, not sure how the calculation is done as .45 ACP is still legal.


You can keep 10 000 rounds of any ammunition you want in a house, or 15 000 if 5000 or more of them are .22LR or .22 short
No rules regarding how many you can own, you just have to document a use for them

No specific weapons about semi automatics. Most military style rifles are not allowed to be used for hunting, but you can own prettty much all semi automatic rifles to use at the range.

Automatics are hard to get, and you'll have to be a member of the national gun-collection club for two years or something, and fullfill a number of demands

I'm sure there is more, but I don't got all night to write an essay on cuckistan gun laws

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Any one on /o/ have experience with 4x4 clubs/car clubs? Kinda want to find more 4x4 bro's in my area but all the clubs are old guys who are religious jeepsters.

>>16228832
Pretty much this. I'm on SouthWest Ontario's offroad groups just to find areas outside of t trail maps.

The people are just kinda normies who are Neato for like an hour but just get boring. Need me some more /o/tists.
I occasionally go backtracking with radios and a guy who I don't talk to since we take different paths and only talk to each other when we got stuck.

Meh

>>16228420
>Most military style rifles are not allowed to be used for hunting, but you can own prettty much all semi automatic rifles to use at the range.
nah breh, there is a list of semi auto weapons you can own and the rest are illegal

here's the list if you want a look
https://lovdata.no/dokument/SF/forskrift/2011-09-09-930

the list isn't very long, but it got some ARs, AK variants, and some other military style rifles

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>>16228832
also their kids

There's a group I was looking at in my area. They look okay I guess...
http://www.twotrackers.org/

There's another group that does a yearly Overland trip up in Michigan's Upper Peninsula, but I don't remember their name.

It sucks when your friends never want to wheel, and you don't have a winch to be self sufficient.

>>16228977
Ah shit, I didn't know that there was an actual list...

I actually dont know anyone who uses any military-style rifle for anything here, do you?

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>>16229404
Come to Toronto, senpai. I have similar feelings except all my friends are either entry level jobs or graduate students so they're all poor and take vehicles. The benefit is that they want to go wheeling but I can only bring one along.

Or even Windsor. I haven't needed to go to Windsor in a year but there are a decent amount of fertile forest land that you can hop around. Winches are mostly useless in fields when you can't wrap them around a tree, though.

>>16228420
"military style weapons" I hate this. We're "OK" in Canada since we only have the classification of non-restricted, restricted so you can hunt with anything non-restricted.
This includes the CZ858, Tavor, T97, and other "military style weapons" but restrict the other guns with the exact same functionality like the AK and AR-15s.
That's good though. I'm just looking around areas in Europe to go hunting in. UK and Ireland are top priority and am looking for other gun friendly states. I'll probably just bring my Rem 700 and dribe that around.

Seems like a standard area then.

Hope it gets cold, soon!

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>>16229475
I don't know any personally but I know they shoot competitively with ARs and such.

I only know hunters irl because that's the biggest gun owner community by far.

>>16221693
are you autistic

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>>16230110
Actual Armalite platform competitive shooters are rare. If they did, it would be under another style AR-10 and M-15 "non military" weapons that trade field utility for rigidity. The 7 prong rotating bolt was built more for sheltered durability than for target shooting. Even the C7s and M16 20-inch barrels are surpassed by something like a SCAR-l which I think is actually used as squad designated shooters.

What about the haemmerli toting biathalon shooters in Norway? I remember my airgun days. Good times.

>>16230204
Don't be mean, anon.
>inb4 don't be autistic

>>16230045
Not a bad idea! Looks to be about a 6 hour drive or so. Gotta get my passport though :-\

>>16230322
I recognise that tan jeep and the "new" winch bar anywhere (well not really. but ya know)

If you have automatic weapons and cheap AR firing, I'll cross the border any time. It a 5 hour round trip drive to go shoot on my buddy's farm and a 10 hour round trip farm to go biathalon shooting so a 6 hour drive is almost nothing for meh. Just gotta need a raison to go!

>>16230110
>>16230045
>>16229475
>>16228977
>>16228420
>>>/k/catalog
?

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>>16230353
Did you reply to the wrong anon?
>>16228832 perhaps?

I don't have a Tan Jeep. I used to... but it's been about a decade since.

>>16217744
4Runner for sure

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>>16230498
This is the only reason why anonymous forums suck ass. Prime example.

>>16230498
I did. I thought you were him.

Anyway, I still do an insane amount of dribing (I've racked up 10 000 km in the past 2 months) and now that winter is coming up and I have a winch, I'll be able to venture much farther out for recreational porpoises instead of just going to the job sites at the locations to where I arrive. So if you're eber coming down, 4chins is to let you know!

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>>16228832
Nigger i told you we should have a San Diego /org/ meet

>>16230519
They were never intended for meetups and information source only. All the offroad and other niche forums I am on have the personal banter which is AIDS.
Anon boards keep that to a minimum which is more than bearable.

>>16221413
imo 1999 sport was the best

>>16230664
NO FAGGOT FUCK OFF THATS ACROSS THE COUNTRY FOR ME

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>16231100
I might be mixing you up with another YJ on here

Whoops

>>16222534
Nice

http://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/5864672178.html

Been thinking of selling my Mark VIII and buying this beat

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>>16231107

>>16231100
>>16231107
>>16230664
>>16230498
>>16230322
>>16230045

Especially after:
>>16230519
I haven't laughed this hard on 4chan before. Might be the weed but I'm sure this was really funny.

>>16231100
If I offer a California job, I'd take you in muh trucc to go to San Diego as an offroadtrip! :D

Though, I'd probably bring bae. Depends - how cute are you? Are you a female?

>>16230664
I know bro
soon

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>>16231334
>Though, I'd probably bring bae. Depends - how cute are you? Are you a female?

thinking there would ever be a female on 4chan, non the less /o/

>wew

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can i post itt? i off road for work and the truck driver fags are scared of roads that aren't the trans canada/interstate

>>16231488
Is it an 8x8?

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>>16231494
tri drive yea 6 wheel drive with all locking diffs/iad

>>16231504
>>16231488
Any vehicles that drive off of the pavement can be /org/

Kickass rig, my dude

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>>16231560
mine is a peterbilt but thanks m80

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Took the hardbody up Mt. Rosa today, trying to get a feel for how it handles (and to give problems a chance to show themselves).
Got up there just fine, could use some more clearance on the front, for some reason it's noticeably lower than the back.

Brakes and P/S seem to be going bad, but I expected as much when I bought a $900 truck.

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>every faggot in California wants 8-12k for their 20 year old tacoma

>>16231612
If 4wd is intact, yeah. They command a decent amount of money for good condition. What's the Ranger situation? I feel like they wouldn't be under $5000, either.

Rangers, Tacomas, and S-10s are OK investments if you treat them well.

>>16231654
2-6k, 6k will get you a nice one from the early 2000s

>>16231664
But the automatic trans in rangers up until 2006 was very bad and unreliable, my friend works on them all the time and purposely bought a 2007 model to avoid that. But who even drives automatics anyways. And a few years back my sister had bought one that had a new trans put in it a few thousand miles before she bought it. I believe it was a 2000

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>>16230306
>Actual Armalite platform competitive shooters are rare.
There's a sport called Practical Shooting where ARs are very common, or practically the standard rifle to use. Of course customized for that purpose, they look a little different than what the military has.
>>16230306
>What about the haemmerli toting biathalon shooters in Norway?
they arrange competitions with many calibers, air gun shooters have their own thing too

in Biathlon they use .22lr rifles

>>16231654
I personally would never buy a car with the intention of selling it later, it ruins the experience.

>>16231654
Make sure you get one with the 4.0. The 4cyl is OK on gas, but lacking pretty bad in the power department. It was mainly for fleet vehicles. The 3.0 is just a big piece of shit, gets shit mileage and performs like shit (I'm still salty), and the 4.0 is pretty OK.

Explorer 5.0 swaps are well documents and not incredibly difficult, since they were basically the same vehicle.

>>16231705
>I personally would never buy a car with the intention of selling it later, it ruins the experience.
My intention when I buy a car is to drive it until it turns to dust. Don't really understand the "IT HOLDS ITS VALUE!!!!" meme.

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>>16231664
On the 6000 side more than the 2000, ofc. Might be worth getting a 3000 Ranger with otay electrical and insides and beat it to shit.

>>16231705
Investments transcends simple re-selling the vehicle. I expect to sell my Ranger 4 years down the line and would only resell sooner if I have enough to get a Defender (or similar style) + trailer for my hauling needs.
But for insurance, upkeep, self-worth, and general reliability, these all save you money WHILST you have the vehicle

I have a 4.0 and will definitely look into the explorer swap. How much extra HP and everything does that give you? How is the engine bay and how does it compare to a standard thunderbird ferd turbo that brings it up to around 250HP?
Also, you reiterate everything I normally say about Rangers, lol. Fleeted 2.3s are great for boosting the value of my Ranger :D

>>16231697
.22LR thumb bolts. i remember those days. "clickclick. pop. clickclick. pop". For historical accuracy, shouldn't they use Mossy Nuggets?

>>16217467

>>>/facebook/

>>16231729
>Investments transcends simple re-selling the vehicle... insurance, upkeep, self-worth, and general reliability, these all save you money WHILST you have the vehicle

This is true, it is often worth it to spend a little extra upfront to get a good vehicle that won't nickle and dime you later, not sure how your self-worth ties into the equation. It is generally a poor idea, however, to get a vehicle one the principle of "good trade in value", because you could opt for a lease and save yourself on the loss.

As far as the Ranger goes, I was a victim of the 3.0, so I'm not really aware of the mods available for the 4.0.
I seem to recall that the 4.0 pushrod is like 170 HP and 215 ft-lb, and the SOHC is higher but notoriously unreliable.
The 5.0 will throw out around 215 HP and like 290 ft-lb of torque, with lots of room for improvement. The torque is the big win, and the explorer 5.0 is mostly held back by the cam and more restrictive exhaust. Also it's way more reliable than the SOHC 4.0

I never got the chance to try the swap myself, life and the military happened.

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Is the 2017 Ford F-150 Raptor a good off-road vehicle? I'm correct in assuming it's better than a regular Chevrolet Silverado, right? In respect to off-roading, of course.

Is it the best in general? It's specifically made for it and it's an all-in-one package. Is it possible to do better? I'm not interested in which brand is better or all of that... I just want a truck that's built for off-road that you can just pick up (hehe) and go.

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>>16231778
"self-worth" being the worth of the vehicle. Liklihood of it breaking down and how comfortable/ safe you feel in the maintenance of the vehicle. This was worth it enough for me to buy a 2010 Ranger (and pay the extra premium) earlier this year.

OHV 4.0s comes with the downside of not being made after (2004?). My SOHC is going strong at 190 000km and I plan an engine inspection / swap at anywhere between 220 000 - 250 000.
M O N E Y P I T

Looks like a turbo might be more worth it, desu. I already push out 240torque and don't think the extra bit is worth the hwy gas mileage decrease. That'll cost me a good $40 / $50 per month if I do that swap ):.

>military
Neat! Better than my woodlands larping /k/ ass.

>>16231879
It is (whether designed or not, it is) as a sandbarge and doesn't have the interior to keep up with mud as well as other vehicles. Too many sensors, electronics, and weak teeth underneath. Funny thing is that if you google "Ford Raptor offroad" in images, the first mud raptor is a stock image from Ford and the next two muddy images are links to a youtube video of a Raptor ripping out its timing belt in a mud puddle.

It could be better than a regular Silverado if built but all those vehicles aren't meant to handle "tough" conditions unless you build them the way you want.
Get a Ranger, Taco, preferably in single cab. Or if you want to get real offroad truck (rock climbing, mudding, or other specific niche), get an IH Scout, Jeep custom, etc.

>>16231945
Keep us posted if you do the turbo, I've personally never seen a turbo ranger, and I think it would be really neat.
I think they had worked out a lot of the kinks of the SOHC by 2010, and that's a lot of driving it seems you do.

>Better than my woodlands larping /k/ ass.
Honestly, probably not. I only mentioned it because I had no idea where I would be living, so I sold the truck. I sit in a windowless bunker and do IT things, only re-enlisting if I can be sure I'll get a new assignment.

>>16231879

If you're driving in a big open area they're fine i guess.

Too big for technical trails and forests, too heavy for snow

>>16231879
They're alright but pretty heavy. Personally I'd put money into building up a cheap truck than buying a more expensive one right off the lot (that I'll end up dumping money into anyways) but that's just preference

>>16231879
They are really good if you live in SoCal and can just bomb in the desert on the weekends. But you could just build a gnarly 4x4 rig for the money you put into that thing.

>>16232786
I see raptors all the time in Ocotillo Wells, and more often than not they're driven by some whitetrash dude in his 30s who just got a brand-new "babby's first off-road truck" and doesn't follow any of the OHV area rules

What's org's miata and why is it the Jeep XJ?

>>16233433
Nope it's either the Toyota Land Cruiser or the Hilux/Tacoma

>>16233467

either of those really

What would Yall recommend for cheapish shocks for my 79 w200?

>>16218362
There's one in Michigan lifted in Dana 44's for 2 grand

>>16234015
what cab/bed configuration?

>>16234141
Where? Link?

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Does anyone here know of any cyber Monday deals on a winch or a hi lift jack? I got stuck yester day and felt stupid calling for someone to help me get out when either one of thoes would have gotten e out easy

>>16234193
I saw it on some fb page. Let me see if I can find it

>>16222534
fuggin badass

>>16234198
get a nice come a long

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Im back

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wife is dropped, not losing any money, so buying myself something nice

Hilux or Navara buds?

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ayy lmao

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>>16231289
>>16234310

I think you asked me if it looked stoopid on its stock tires.

The answer is yes. Yes it did.

>>16234338
oops

>>16234332
neither jesus christ

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>>16234193
Sorry, ment Dana 60 rear

>>16234332
Hilux

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>>16234332
If I had to pick; Hilux

If I got to choose any pickup in the same class; D-Max

>>16234155
Standard cab long bed

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>>16234332
I drobe the Navara/Frontier for two weeks when getting my Colorado repaired. I would've easily driben my 2WD Colorado before the Frontier any day.
Never drove the Hilux but it has a good reputation and normally for a very good reason.

>>16234361
Lol don't worry, anon. All modern, bulky pickup truccs look weird on their stock sizes. My Ranger looks great on its upgraded 32s, though but still would think the Rams, Silberados, and Fag-1fiddies would still look weird on anything lower than 30s.

>>16234338
ree

>tfw discovered OR when some chad but cool af dude gave ne a ride
>tfw loved his modded land cruiser
>tfw want to get a modded Hilux
>tfw 2 broke so just got my shitbox that has 0 sex appeal

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>>16234725
Time to get that second job

Honestly, just try to save up and get an unmodded Hlux/LC, then build it as you go along at your own pace and when you feel that you can afford it

It'll feel so much better when you can finally afford the next piece of the puzzle. You start with an original Hilux, then you put on some fatter tires and it feels like a new car completely. Then you give it a little lift and suddenly you can go places you never imagined. Then perhaps you manage to get your hands on a locking rear diff?

Piece by piece - its the way to go

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>>16234725
>tfw
>see a 90s ramcharger pull into my block
>modded but very nice with 37 tyres
>at least 12 inches of lift
>roll windows down to talk to driber at red light
>"sweet ram charger. doesn't sound like a V8, what did you do to it?"
>"oh lol, i don't know, anon. it's my girlfriend's dad's"
I see it driben by the gf occasionally and drives the dude around.

Hey anon. At least you're not him.

>>16234759
What's your opinion on the small diesel Pajero's?

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>>16234836
Which ones?
Standard two-door? Pinin?

They're alright - simple cars, do quite well offroad and they tend to be priced nicely. They tend to be hammered quite badly tho, and they are prone to rust pretty much everywhere

The 4D56 engine also likes to eat gaskets and heads when it starts reaching high kilometres, so don't expect not having to to a rebuild at one point

If you can find one in good condition I wouldn't call it a dangerous purchase, but if you can also afford a Nissan Patrol or even a Toyota LandCruiser I'd go with those

>>16234876
Standard two-door.

LandCruisers and Patrols are easy to come by, or import. But the Toyota's are sometimes quadruple the price even if in worse condition.

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>>16234900
They are, but there is a reason for it also.

First; yes, I drive a Hilux but I'm not a Toyota fanboy and I recognize that they also have flaws.

Now that I've said that; the LC/HiLux is way, WAY better built and more solid than what Nissan and Mitsubishi were producing at the same time. The engines are just that much more reliable, axles and joints can take a lot more punishment, and they were really good when it came to rust.

The aftermarket for Toyota is also insanely huge compared with any other brand, which is quite important when you're heading into serious offroading.

All of the guys I know who do offroading have switched to Toyotas (except that one stubborn fuck with a G-Class, although he is considering getting rid of it now that he is in the process of his second engine rebuild in two years) if they ever had anything else, that alone should be a bit of a pointer

>>16234929
Thanks for the input, time to start saving shekels I guess.

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>>16234977
The Toyojew hungers

>>16234929
Is... the Jeep aftermarket in Norway not a thing? That's quite interdasting that Toyota overtakes the offroad market there.
Also, I see a defender in the back. How true is that those are more oberlanders than they are off roaders? Stock, of course.

>>16234900
Which country are you in?

>>16234996
Canuckistan

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>>16234996
Jeep folk in Norway are strange people. You either have people in absolutely fucked old Grand Cherokees with niggerrigged lifts and big tires, or you have mid-30's something guys with stock Wranglers in all trims; both "standard" Saharas with no equipment and small wheels and the factory-modded Rubicons.

Problem is that these people are stupidly proud of "MUH JEEP" and will think that its an absolutely unstoppable offroad machine no matter what, meaning that they dont believe in being careful, having winches or even letting air out of the tires.

Defenderbros are good people, but also a bit "proud" of their cars and they somehow always seem a bit too afraid to hurt their cars - it should also be mentioned that they ARE Land Rovers, and they do tend to have a lot of malfuctions

Fun thing; for some reason overlanding is way bigger in the Land Rover community than in the Toyota/Nissan/Mitsubishi/Jeep/G-Class communities

Also; some people try to use big american SUV's and pickups here aswell, with a big emphasis on TRY... they are simply way too big for the type of offroading we do here

>>16235046
>jeep folk in Norway are strange people
>as compared to "normal" people in Norway
>as compared to "normal" people in ORG

Lowblow shitposts aside, that's actually really funny. All of my international friends (ie outside of the geographical North America) have touted Jeeps to be unreliable to shit and thus do not have a culture around them. It's funny that Norway develops its backwoods proud culture. See: >>16228996
Stock jeeps ARE capable of doing a lot of shit, though. They probably just don't do technical paths either because they don't want to, can't find them, or don't know they exist.

And yes. One of the reasons I fear Defenders (the only ones available in Canada are pre2000s, anyways) are the huge mechanical issues that cost MORE on top of the $30 000 I will already be paying. I sure as hell aren't importing a modern one, anyway.
Retaliatory fun thing: Land Rover Defenders are the only boxy vehicles done well (short of a military surplus IFV). The amount of space and lack of trim in the back is genuinely impressive. Kudos to LR to maintaining their niche.

I kinda wish Yoda had a similar offroad market in NA but Jeep took that market pretty well and are probably the only thing of theirs worth buying in the modern lineup.

>>16235028
Wanna go shoot SKSs tomorrow?

>>16235105
Shoot where?

>>16235134
Mid or South Ontario.

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>>16235105
They're capable in stock form; yeah - but people seem to think that their stock jeep on 30.x9.5's can take on LC's running 37's, lockers and dual transfers

They also have a high rate of shit going bad when offroading, but this is due to mentality I've been talking about - believing too much in their vehicle and not knowing its limitations

Here is a small demonstration of what a lightly kitted Hilux can do with a dual-transfer and the right tires
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKPIJCvNghs&index=17&list=FLqoupciJyXQJ398J3SRYSxA

>>16235141
other side of the country senpai

>>16235204
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How are secong gen exploders reliability and modability wise? I can weld and do high school math, so fabrication isn't a huge deal but obviously the less work the better. Mostly interested since they're medium sized and don't have MUH OFF ROAD tax.

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>>16235287
>ferd exploders

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>>16235226
If you leave now, I'll pick you up at YYZ at 8am? Sound good to you?

>>16235286
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>>16235204
Oh yeah. One of the most valuable lessons I learned in my stock Colorado was that offroading is not what is capable but whether it is possible. IE pick your battles.

Neat little Hilux. Looks like one of those IH Scouts I see dribing around here but probably much more suited to the climate.

Last question: how do you handle your clutch like that in the snow? The operator seems incredibly competent and knows how to handle it in the snow. If you told me to pull off what he just did, I'd probably pop it in a few times when I felt a bit too much resistance...

>inb4 get out, newb
I DON'T SNOW CRAWL PLS NO BULLY.

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>>16235338
>tfw no marlin crawler t-case gears for snow rolling

>>16235338
>sound good?

No it sounds horrible, fuck snow

>>16235338
>how do you handle your clutch like that in the snow?
my man, there is no one driving that truck - it said that earlier in the video. the owner has just installed some huge ass aftermarket gears so the truck is just idling over all of that

>>16235476
>idling

So how does that work exactly?

>>16235481
it's geared low enough that it doesn't stall in gear with the engine idling.

>>16235481
you know how a low range gear set works in the transfer case? well its that x2 that by bolting 2 transfer cases. so you have low, then lowlow range. But most of the times when the guys just idle they have their idle turned up a few hundred rpm.
watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acalNRlT2I0&t=525s

>>16235481
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoajyemsl6k

this vid shows the benefits of reargearing your t-case in action. it changes the gear ratios so even at idle your vehicle is producing enough power to move forward because the gearing is so tight

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What obscure 4x4's does /ORG/ wish they had as a project/enjoyment vehicle? Rare or cheap.

>Suzuki Samurai pick up
>Jeep fc150

>>16235694
lol thats not a pick up faggot thats just the long wheel base samurai with the roof removed

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>>16235705

>>16235721
...and that would be a conversion my man that certainly was not from the factory.

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I'm >>16221413, going to start saving $2500 for that Cherokee now actually because the thought of owning one for serious off roading makes me want it more

Going to aim for a '97 model for $1500 to get a full set of Duratracs then save up more afterwards for a 3" lift for it

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>>16235476
Oh.
>mfw
>so bad at snow rolling, i get beat by an automagic machine
>in manual

>>16235705
lol that makes me feel better
I would love a twingo UTE modified to rock crawl

MUD DIGGERS

>>16235803
gears are cool as fuck

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>>16235804
MUH KADIGGERS

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>>16235803
>twingo UTE modified to rock crawl
easy there memelord

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>>16235962
What's wrong, anon? Do-do-do I not satisfy you?

>>16235986


haha do you think this cuck-truck is 4x4?

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>>16235986
no

God Damn, yj guy here. impulse buy? Fucking love these toyotas so much, been dying to get one. Just e-mails the guy to go see it.

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/cto/5896914197.html