Classic Car General - /ccg/

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>>16157734
HI guise! am i in the club now?

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>>16157770
Fuck winter, it reminds me how much water leaks into this thing.

Really wish I could just gut the interior and go at the rust repair, challenging when it's your DD. Still debating on suspension parts to order as well.


>it's an 81 if anyone's curious

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Not much going on with the caprice as of today and yesterday. Today I just hooked up everything on the engine. I did the hokey pokey with the passenger side header.

>put it on
>forgot to hook up starter, can't reach with header in the way
>take it off
>put it back on, have all the bolts in but one
>can't get the last bolt in without taking the others off
>take it off again
>put stubborn bolt on first
>have all bolts in but one, again
>this time a different bolt won't go in without taking the other bolts out and leaving the other stubborn bolt threaded in 1/4 of the way
>take it back off again
>correctly have all the bolts in, finally

in other words

>put the left bolt in
>took the left bolt out
>shook the header all about

Man fuck these cheap headers.

>>16157791
Meant to reply to OP, oops.

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>>16157796
ayy what year Caprice? My dads had a 66 for as long as I can remember.


>inb4 hey bro nice impala

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>>16157810
82 or an 83, i can't remember. It's my brothers car, just fixing it for him after a crash.

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Weather was finally good enough/I had time to line all my cars up so I could take a group photo for you guys

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should I put a bigger jet in my carb for winter?

>>16157937
How cold does it get where you are now?

>>16157937
What's that going to do?

>>16157937
alternatively you could just keep the choke closed a little bit.

>>16157941
denver, so fairly cold. it's probably going to be like 30-40 on average

>>16157952
You shouldn't have any problem then. Just use the choke while it warms up if you need it. That loooong manifold makes the 300 a bit cold blooded.

Is it really worth it to swap out drum brakes for disc ones?

>>16158295
If you have 4 wheel drum brakes, yes, if you have front discs and rear drums, no.

>>16158295
I am, because FUCK four wheel drum brakes and a single master cylinder.

shit sucks.

>>16157967
nice, thanks man.

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>>16158295
You can get 4 wheel discs working a lot better than most people think. You can also get drums from a heavier car of the same era, there were some monster drums out there, Galaxie wagons had 11x2.5" drums that can stop just as well as a lot of discs. I swapped to discs because I plan on racing the car but if it was just a street car I've always been fine with drums

>>16158295
despite memes, well tuned drums will stop better than discs.
The problem with them is they got hot real quick if you ride them.

>>16158319
4 wheel drums*

I definitely agree with some dude that it's not worth it to go to discs in the back for a classic

>>16158319
>>16158323
the biggest thing about disks vs drums for me is that ease of future maintenance. No springs, no heavu drums, just easily swap pads and disks.

My fascination with Lincolns is twofold: first, they're great cars. Second, I had a '79 Mark V that I sold because of an ex. I want my life and my Lincoln back; I can't get the time I wasted back, but I can get another Lincoln.

>>16158490
>I had a '79 Mark V that I sold because of an ex.
why

>>16158490
>Dracula is lit on nostalgia

Can anyone tell me if a I6 or /6 with a 3spd can handle 70mph for extended periods of time? What would be an ideal rear gear ratio?

>>16158508
Yes unless you're KKK who's top speed is 70mph
it's all about your final gear ratio.

>>16158490
I'm gonna go talk to the guy again this week and see what's good. I think I still have your number, I'll let you know.

>>16158497
Long story; she thought I had too many cars and that one had a bad association with her mother, so I sold it. Now, I want to replace it.

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what kind of wheels should I get

>>16158731
None, keep those, they look fine

>>16158731
Those wheels are good.

>>16158526
Hey, my to speed is 84

>>16158508
I've driven my '77 F150 with a 300 and highway gears at 70 mph for hours before. Its turning under 2500 rpm at that speed

>>16158731
Personally, get rid of the cowl, if you're not using it as a workhorse for heavy shit, drop it 3-4 inches front and rear and keep the rallies.

If you're itching for new wheels, maybe go with one of the replica rally wheels in a 17" or so, so you can keep some sidewall and the clasisc look.

Chrome looks like shit, especially on those, polished are a pain to maintain, black wheels a shit on everything.

Alternatively, go with some slotted mags.

Trying to buy new fucking engine bearings and there's fucking 11 pages of bearings for engines and I got no fucking clue what to get.

I'm pretty sure the crank hasn't been ground. So its standard sized bearing, but then there race, road, PreA, post A, 998, 998 1100, and I got fuck all idea.

I guess I should just phone them.

>>16159897
Phone the place, or it's time to tear shit apart and start measuring, if your shits slightly too big for a bearing it should be, you'd know your shits worn and needs to be reground or replaced.

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>>16158721
jesus man, what a controlling cunt.

>>16160744
Eh, she sort-of had a point; I did have 5 cars at the time and space for only four.

Still, I will get another one and be happy.

seriously how can i tell how much throttle cable i need besides trial and error?

>>16161072
Use string to measure the distance?

Let's see those stickers!

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>>16161762
Nice. I've been wanting a Reagan sticker for my 86 but then again I'm literally terrified of putting political things on my car because of shitheads in my area.

>>16161777
Just do it. I'm a staunch liberal, although I find my sticker ironic right now.

Either way, it's period correct and I think it's cool

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>>16161355
This sticker is a on a 56 Oldsmobile I just picked up. I'll include other pictures later if you guys are interested.

>>16161355
Tell me /ccg/ how many stickers is too many?

>>16161844
You arent a liberal. You are a hypocritical cuck. Driving that truck directly opposes what liberals belive. Off yourself.

>>16161954
I'm very liberal, but I also love cars.
>Deal widdit

>>16161871
More than 3

>>16161844
>I'm a staunch liberal
>is an alcoholic and drug addict
>acts like he knows everything despite being proven wrong multiple times
Everything checks out here

>>16161974
I only know some things, most of which involve Harley Davidson and Indian being the only company to make a REAL motorcycle, brother

>>16162113
Muh dick. Didn't you have a turbo project delorean?

>>16162212
Was going to go with a Turbo, but it wasn't worth it. Instead, I have a carburetor on it. It runs alright, but it has a strange hesitation. I suspect a vacuum leak, but I can't find it.

>>16162293
How's your accelerator pump?

Also swap an l67 in it

>>16162394
>dude engine swap it lmao
Kill yourself my man

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pinion seal replacement came out fine, despite it being the first time im doing it

cautiously optimistic about it cause im an idiot and probably fucked something up like always, but we'll see on doooowwwwnnn the road

if anything that will be a good excuse to upgrade the drivetrain

what big things have i missed

>Trunk struts I ordered were the wrong ones
>Hood struts I ordered couldn't even hold up the hood, the 35 year old ones work better.

Why

>>16162592
>Wanting a prv6
Honestly they're fucking fucked m8, big time

>>16162668
They're also one of the only things that bolt up to the transmission; plus, the car was designed around them. My options are somewhat limited.

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Just a few things left to do to get it road worthy again, lads

>attach bumper
>run some new wires for headlights
>align hood properly
>reinstall the radiator
>misc trim and headlight bezel

Probably one or two things I'm missing, but whatevs

Here's a pic pre-bolting

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>>16163339
Post bolting

Front clip didn't line up completely perfect, but it's a good 20 footer, especially when it's going to be painted so the colors match.

>>16163322
Doesn't it use an esprit transmission? Or am I mistaken.
>Tfw you will never have a twin turbo v8 powered delorean

>>16163339
Looks good man

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>>16163346
I needed 4 hands to line this thing up and bolt it all at once. I think I'm gonna take another crack at aligning the driver's side.

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>>16163357
and let me tell you guys something, it's a PAIN IN THE BITCH ASS CUNT to put a hood on by yourself.

>>16162668
t. Someone who has never owned or worked on a car with a PRV

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>>16163367
But there it is.

>>16163357
What year is that? Good looking car though, would look mean in a good coat of satin or metallic black

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>>16163371
I've zero desire to work out own a prv engine. I have a VTEC v6

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>>16163373
82 or 83 caprice. My brother bought a gallon of paint for it after the crash.... Midnight Blue Metallic.

>>16163408
That thing got a big block?!?

>>16163408
Whoops I was wrong couldn't differentiate the middle two headers

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>>16163420
>>16163424
Just a 305, nothing to see here.

>>16163459
8-71 blown 572 out the hood when

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>>16163462
Wanna lend me about $15,000 to build it?

>>16163462
>kkk is literally a 17yo boomer
What a suprise

>>16163846
>not wanting a huge detroit V8 with a blower ontop

Whatever, econocuck.

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So here is my list of things I need to buy. As of right now it's current

THINGS I LEARNED TODAY:

Batteries need water apparently. My battery needed water apparently. When I went to start it, the thing wasn't turning over. Then, as the key was still on start, the fucker blew up. Sounded like a 12 gauge going off under my hood. I feel retarded.

>>16163846
21, but yeah basically. I do have fuzzy dice and a hula girl on my dash.

>>16164349
People still buy batteries you need to maintain? I didn't know that was a thing still.
Every single battery I see now is Maintenance free and sealed.
Did you take a picture of the battery?

>>16164369
I will tomorrow. I didn't know you needed to either, but it has/had the panels that popped off to film with water i guess (they literally blew off and melted on the underside of my hood).

>>16164378
you might want to get some baking soda & water and coat FUCKING EVERYTHING UNDER YOUR HOOD. If you don't it'll start rusting crazy quick.

Someone talk me out of buying an MGB GT

I would be delivering pizza in it. My current dad is a MG ZS which is 70 % Honda civic

>>16164385
I will do that right now

>>16164386
mgb's are pretty clutch, they're basically the mustang of yurop

>>16164386
your current dad is a 70% honda civic?

>>16164397
They're also cheap as chips in Scotland, theres one on pretty good nick for £2500 near me

>>16164398
Autocorrect full key me again, my dad is actually 70% Saab 9-5

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>>16164398

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Here's what the battery looks like now.

>>16164508
Also that white liquid is baking soda and water i went heavy on the baking soda

>>16164508
All that white shit is acid mate, get it scrubbed

>>16164536
alright so I scrubbed it, but it didn't do much. I put some oil on it, and tomorrow or the next day I am going to hit it with a random orbital sander and some primer.

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>>16161762
I've seen your shitbox on /pol/,
fuck you obunga voter.

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>>16164349
Tossing in my vote for a 1405 edelbrock, loving mine, especially the manual choke. Been on the truck close to 6 months, just about 15,000 miles now, runs like a fucking top.

>>16163349
It's a Renault transmission; not a terrible unit, but adapting it to anything else is arduous. If I swap engines, I'd have to change everything else; transmission, linkage, etc.

Posted more in the off road general but I'll be getting an 82 k10 here soon that I'm gonna be building

>>16164349
>high stall torque converter

just how high are you going?

>>16165873
Probably like 2500rpm

>>16165545
Lol what I've never been on pol

>>16165570
That's what I'm thinking, it seems more plug and play.

>>16165672
That blows.

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>>16165934
some faggot used your pic and said you were voting clinton

>>16166012
I did vote for Clinton

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>>16166058

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>>16166058
>wanting these

>>16166139
>>16166129
Thanks for the (You)

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Bump

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>>16157734
58 vauxhall victor here
almost 60 years old and getting ready for a second wind. being repowered from the pathetic 1.5 litre 4cyl into some a bit more modern and powerfull. comes with it's fare share of difficulties though.

>>16167466
also feat mk3 zef in the back

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tfw no 69 charger w/440 and 4 speed pistol grip shifter.

>>16167953
I too feel that feel

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New carb and finally a choke

>>16167953
>manual on a v8
what are you, gay?

>>16167985
What did you go with?
>Thing I'm going to get an edelbrock 1405

>>16168001
Edelbrock 1405 600cfm with manual choke.
305 dollars at summit and it came with a free air cleaner.

>>16167986
If that's gay then I'm a raging homosexual.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKlVfqWPK7I

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Small bump.


>>16168019
I was happy with mine, until one day the accelerator pump ripped in half. For some reason all the stores around me only stock 1408 pumps, and since the car was my daily driver I just hung the carb up on the wall with good intentions on getting the right accelerator pump online, and used an old holley 4150 I had laying around. The edelbrock is still hanging there on my wall, amongst my carb collection. Still waiting for the pump.

>>16168266
>playdoh motor

>>16168476
I prefer Mcdonalds engine.

>>16168019
That's exactly what I want

>tfw CAD is shit

If I was able to get the Carb and intake I want, it would cost $860 just for those, then the cost of a Lokar TV cable and and adapter for the Ford kickdown

>>16168839
Is it possible that my c6 auto has a vacuum operated kickdown? It doesn't look like there's anything that is a manual kickdown. Is that possible?

>>16169174
The C6 in my 68 Lincoln has a kickdown arm.
I've never heard of a vacuum kickdown before.
There should be something connected to the carb throttle linkage for it.

I know the C4s have a Vacuum Modulator, which senses change in the engine's vacuum due to throttle position and load changes. With these changes the modulator adjusts the shift timing of the transmission according to the demand of the engine.

Maybe you old trans has that as well, but the modulator controls kickdown?

>>16169174
your c6 will have a vacuum modulator and a mechanical kickdown. It's possible some previous owner removed the kickdown arm. You don't REALLY need it, but if you don't run it your c6 won't kick down into 2nd when you floor it.

>>16169255
>>16169279
What I know is that it's not an original engine or transmission. It might be connected, I've got to check. I'm pretty sure the mechanical kickdown is there but I'm not sure it's connected

>>16169366
Does the trans shift into a lower gear when you floor it

>>16169394
Yes, why I'm thinking it's vacuum is at like 34mph at part throttle up a hill, it will flutter between gears until I mat it or slow down. Kind of weird.

>>16169406
I'd think you do have a kickdown arm then, but I can't be certain, cause when I put my Holley on my 302, my trans still kicked down a gear when I really gave it gas, with the kickdown not on it, since I didn't have the kickdown adapter for a while

>>16169416
Well part of that of that is the internal pressure within the valve body

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>>16169366
>tfw they discontinued the bitchin AT tires I wanted for the Subaru
Fuggg

>>16169431
>Tfw saw the wheels on a '17 f150 platinum
Fuck those would look awesome on a restomod, but that's dumb

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>>16169446
That thing deserves soft 8s

Or maybe Ansen slots

>>16169456
I like black D windows a bit more, but I love soft eights.

soft eights with cooper cobras or radial t/as would literally be sex

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>>16169490
Discoverer A/T or BFG KO2s nigga

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>>16169501
>dirt tire
bruh I want muscle truck not mud bogger

2 W D
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D

>>16168266
The pump should be the exact same, the difference between 1405 and 1408 is

1405
>2% richer tune
>bigger jets
>manual choke

1408
>2% leaner than 1405
>smaller jets
>electric choke

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>>16169506
Implying this isn't the best iteration of muscle truck

>>16169714
>we'll just zues it back on!

>>16169714
I'm not implying that drag setup isn't the best, I'm stating that drag setup is the best.

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>>16169702
My mistake.. I had bought two of the 1470 pumps, the rubber is even a different color. They don't fit correctly into the bore, so they'll just tear in half the first time you work the throttle linkage.

Oh well.

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>>16169456
That spotlight looks damn good on that body style. I've got a buddy that's offering me one identical to that but I just know it wouldn't look right on Old Brown.

How does a car from the 70s drive vs one from the 80s? Looking at an S30 Z vs several 80s cars (e30, z31, r32)

>>16170029
>upset-freiburger.gif

>>16169366
>What I know is that it's not an original engine or transmission.
I know that at least mopar gearboxes will shit the bed if the kickdown isn't tuned right.
Might wanna check on it.

>>16171010
Roadkill is my shit. does Finnegan literally fly to California now just to film roadkill?

I got my starter back from the Amish. I hooked it up and everything and the relay just makes a single click.
So am i looking at fucked ground wires now or a fucked ignition switch?
Wish i knew about electrics and shit.

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>>16171027
Lately DED has been better than roadkill. Roadkill is just cruising now, they get views just from the name

>>16171251
Yeah, IMO the best episodes are the ones where they spend half their time getting a POS to run in someone's yard.
Except for that episode with the leafy Buick.
I do like the Ranchero episodes though.

>>16171223
How's your starter solenoid? Or your battery could just be dead

>>16171023
Will do.

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>>16171261
Have you seen this episode of DED, or the newest one where they stuff a second 500ci engine in the back of a boat caddy to make it 1000ci and 4wd?

I agree the best Roadkill episodes are the junkyard rescues.

>>16171223
If the starter solenoid clicks your ignition switch is fine, have you checked the battery?

>>16171262
>How's your starter solenoid?
They just fixed it, the memo states the solenoid wasn't making contact with some shit, i dunno Amish are really good at cursive and i can't read cursive.

The battery is fine. If i jump the terminals on the solenoid it'll crank over just fine.
Somewhere in this mess, something is fucked and i don't know what it could be.
If i could only get over this hurdle I can fix everything else fine.

>>16171278
>have you checked the battery?
It should be fine, all the wires are in shit shape but enough power is making it to the battery that it'll crank if i jump the solenoid terminals.
The relay is grounded on the bolts but the fusebox is hanging loose so i don't know what fuckery has happened to this car.
I hear murmurings on the webs that late 60's barracudas had the solenoid ground wire connected to the relay. I need to trace that wire but I'm pretty sure mine isn't.

>>16171278
>Have you seen this episode of DED, or the newest one where they stuff a second 500ci engine in the back of a boat caddy to make it 1000ci and 4wd?

Damn nigga i need to watch that shit

>>16171301
>enough power is making it to the battery
starter* my bad

>>16171301
If it cranks when you jump the terminals on the starter afaik that can only be the solenoid. You said the solenoid clicks when you crank it?

>>16171305
shit is the correct term , they dont even use the second engine , they just place it in , dont match throttles , they just put it in and dont use it

>>16171333
Wait no, I confused myself. If it cranks when you jump the terminals on the starter that means the starter and solenoid are fine but you bypass the ignition switch circuit.

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>>16171333
yes the relay clicks, pic related is what i mean.

>>16171350
>the starter and solenoid are fine but you bypass the ignition switch circuit.
So then good chance my ignition switch is trashed?
There's a couple of things that need to be checked with this, Since it's autotragic is has a park safety switch and the shift column is somewhat loose and these dusters also have a starter inhibitor for the seatbelt switch.

i figured if power was making it to the relay then these wouldn't have been a problem?

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>>16159870
>drop it any amount of inches
>chrome looks like shit
>black wheels a shit
>slotted mags

Going to have to respectfully disagree with all of this. Stock height, original chrome trim and bumpers, and steelies with beauty rings.

The only thing I don't care for on that guy's truck is the pinstripe along the upper bed rail/hood, otherwise I'd leave it exactly as it is.

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>>16171376
I believe you are correct, but it depends how it's wired. I thought you meant the starter solenoid clicks [you know the big clunk like when your battery is dead] which would mean power is getting to the solenoid but not through it. Have you checked power across the relay? If power is getting to the relay [it wouldn't click if it had no power] that would mean the ignition switch and Park/neutral safety switch and seatbelt switch are fine, although you can probably bypass those switches if you want to rule them out altogether

>>16171401
>although you can probably bypass those switches if you want to rule them out altogether
I probably will once i cross other things off my list (who the fuck wants a seatbelt inhibitor)

Man this is fucked, i might just call my local mechanic to come out and take a look at it.

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>>16171411
Nah man you can do it. Electrical work can be frustrating, but once you understand the components it's easy to grasp. Just be happy it's not a newer FI vehicle.

>>16171431
>Just be happy it's not a newer FI vehicle.
True, AFAIK the alternator side is working just fine since the engine fired one or two times.

I guess i'll start pulling fuses and looking for the parking switch.

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>winter is coming
>getting too miserably cold to wrench
I have a Hurst quarter stick that has been waiting to go in since May, gonna try to get it in on Saturday

>>16172453
>gonna try to get it in on Saturday
Me too m8 ;)

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>>16172456
>gonna try to get it in on Saturday
oh really? what's his name

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Buddy with the '72 Comet is swapping in a 302 from a '93 Mustang. Going to head over to his place after work today to help him clean it and reseal it. He'll also be throwing a new intake, 4 barrel Edelbrock carb, Hooker long tube headers, and 5 speed manual (T5 I think) into it. Will return with pics, should be a good time.

>>16172479
I don't remember, what's ur mum's name again ;)

>>16172500
post link so i can email him $4 to tow it away.

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How hard do you think this thing would be to get running? I'll post some more pics.

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>>16172911
Found it on my family's land while pheasant hunting. Belongs to my uncle who doesn't care if I take it. It's 5 hours away from where I live but if I can I'd like to try and restore it a little.

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>>16172926
When I opened the hood there was a rabbit staring back at me, so them and some field rats have made a mess.

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>>16172936
Engine bay, I had to resize this one as it was too large. I'll host the rest on imgur.

>>16172948
Probably not too bad.

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>>16171411
>>16171431
Agreed. Electrical is frustrating as all fuck BUT not hard to figure out. Just research up on what type of electrical connectors to use for cars. I used crimp type connectors and I'm having problems with them snapping in half from the vibrations. Maybe it was just the harbor freight brand.

Label anything you touch, cut, move or splice
Use heat shrink tubing for mechanical strength
When in doubt go with an overkill size wire, More won't hurt. unless it's a points resistor wire.
Invest in some wire crimp wires.

>>16172948
you may want to get a shop vac up in there and then retake the pic.

What the fuck, did a family of beavers make a nest in there?

>>16172969
This

I've got an issue. When my truck's stereo is cold, and I start the car up, the stereo doesn't work when I'm on the gas.

Could this have been due to the fucked battery?

>>16172948
:/

I thought my engine bay was bad, that can't be a derivable car

How long it been sitting

>>16172969
>wire crimp wires
Wire crimp pliers.

>>16172985
that sounds really odd. Is your alternator charging above a certain RPM? I'd also check if there's a loose connection somewhere leading to the radio, perhaps when you gas it the connection opens?

and it doesn't work when it's cold? When you said that reflowing came to mind. It's where people put a circuit board like a GPU or MOBO in an oven at like 280F, Because overtime the solder connections fracture in half from the repeated heating and cooling of on and off cycles. Sticking it in the oven like that 'reflows' the solder, i.e. melting it slightly to 'reflow' the circuit traces.

I don't suggest you stick your radio in the oven. I just wanted to share a theory of mine.

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>>16172948
>>16172948
>>16172948
Here's the rest of the pictures: https://imgur.com/a/luyja

Yeah the thing is a mess but next time I see it I'll get a shop vac and clean it up more. Like I said, it's 5 hours away so next time I get over there I might just tow it home if it will roll. I'd say it's been there for maybe 5 years. The interior isn't faded very much.

It's got a 2.3L I4 with a 4 speed manual trans, very first year of the Ranger, 1983, with the XL trim. I grabbed the original new car warranty and manuals and shit but it's been chewed up pretty good.

Bonus pic of an old Studebaker.

>>16173012
well to be fair, the battery had no fluid in it and exploded 3 days ago. I think the engine was probably taking more amperage than anything else.

>>16172969
Man there's a spaghetti plate of wires hanging from the dash that i'll have to sort out.

I did get a wiring diagram which helps a lot.

>>16173074
Cover the intake with a plastic bag, zip-tie it down and pressure wash that nigga.

>>16173074
if your pictures are too large you could compress them. My camera puts out a retarded size JPG but i compress it down with irfanview in a batch.

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>>16173535
Excuse me, I'm drunk and forgot the picture. This pic went down from 5~ MB to 1.96MB, while keeping the absolutely ludicrous size and 99% of the quality.

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>>16173553
Yeah I was posting from my phone, just resized them to 1400p since it was the easiest. Normally I use irfanview aswell.

>>16173592
Interior doesn't look too bad, provided the floors aren't rotted out. A good cleaning would be in order but it looks like it would be pretty decent once you do that.

But I must ask the question. just HOW THE FUCK DID SO MUCH HAY GET IN THERE TO BEGIN WITH?

>>16173676
also if it's something you're looking to buy then look up all the missing trim pieces on the front end, like the grille. it may seem like a good deal now until you realise later on down the road you're gonna get fucked buying those things.

>>16172911
>>16172926
>>16172936
>>16172948
I wouldn't bother. There are enough cheap as fuck running Rangers, it's not worth the effort.

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used car dealer online has this 74 f100 4x4 4speed with the 390. looks completely stock. bed appears to have a little surface rust but from the pictures i dont see any cancer. They are asking $4250. Maybe I could get a cash discount? I will have to drive 2 hours to go look at it.

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>>16173866

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>>16173873

>>16173676
>>16173687
No idea for all the hay other than rabbits and rats carrying it into the engine bay then through the firewall. I'll look at the prices of the trim, good point.

>>16173708
This would be my first "project" car, do you think it would be worth even just the learning experience with something that I got for free, and have nothing invested into yet?

>>16173866
>>16173873
>>16173878
If underneath is as clean as it looks outside, then it is worth the price

>>16173909
You're going to have to spend more replacing all the rubber, suspension and gaskets and fluids.

If you want to do an engine swap though, a 302 would make a nice home in there

>>16170884
Eh it happens, I'm only familar with it because I run a 1405 and my dads had the 1408 on his truck for a few years. I wasn't after the bigger jets but I didn't want an electric choke.
Either way, like all carbs, they're either spot on and work great, or they always have issues and need tweaking. I had an old q-jet that was rebuilt and flow bench tuned for a stock 305, worked like a fucking champ till it decided to start puking fuel out of the accelerator pump after a few weeks, replaced that, then the needles fucking fell.

>>16174207
How hard do you think a rebuild would be on a 1405, or do you think id be better off just buying a rebuilt/new one?

>>16171251
>that puyallup goodguys shot

>>16171398
I was saying chrome wheels, they're always some overused boomer 5 spoke, foose tier, or some gaudy "truck" wheel with sharp corners and bolts.


The 67-72s look great stock, but they also look great lowered down a few inches, even if you just level out the ass, or on their damn frame.


Agreed on the steels and beauty rings, I'm just partial to slotted mags.

>>16174213
If you know what you're doing and can follow a guide, as well as know how to tune it go for a rebuild. Rebuilding isnt too hard, just requires patience and doing everything correctly.


A brand new 1405 is like, $300 on Summit and similar though, warrantied and all, plus $150 if you need the intake. Make sure to get something like the edelbrock choke cable too, it's all metal on the handle and mounting, most others have plastic prone to breaking.

I'm the type to go new and then fuck with it down the line if I have to, mine only needed slight adjustment to get the idle on the truck down and a little leaning on the mixture screws to stop a bog going from cruise to wot at low speeds.

>>16174213
>>16174254
rebuilding a carb isn't complicated at all. as long as you're sticking to stock jets the only thing you'll need to know is the correct float level setting. Most rebuild kits come with a ruler and instructions though.

>>16174435
I have rebuilt a few carbs, I used to work rebuilding small engines.

I am just wondering if it's worth it buy a new one vs refurbing an old one.

>>16174254
yeah I have seen that. I think I am going with a weiand stealth, because weiand is pretty fucking cool and I can only dream of owning a big block with dual quads on a tunnel ram.

shit is cool

>>16174455
if you can find an old one in need of a rebuild then I'd say go for it. Not sure about you but I can find used carbs all day long on craigslist for $20-50 a piece. Couple that with a $20 rebuild kit and you've got yourself essentially a brand new carb. As long as you don't mind it looking a little old.

>>16174468
yeah I don't mind it, but fug new carbs are dang pretty.

I need to do more looking though.

On a related note, I sold a holley 4412 I found in my grandfather's garage for 100$ on ebay.

dope.

>>16174455
One hour or two of your time and a rebuild kit is always worth it, compared to buying new. The only thing to really worry about on old carbs is if the throttle bushings are shot, or not

>>16174475
how can you tell?

>>16174480
You really can only tell when the carb is on the engine and running. If you have to crank the Idle mixture screws way the hell out to get the engine running smoothly and you know there's no vacuum leak, then the throttle bushings are toast.
Alternatively, if the throttle shaft has a bit of gas leaking out of it on both sides, then the bushings are usually toast

>>16174499
thanks good to know.

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got her a few weeks ago

>>16174599
dat blue tho

>>16174600
She needs a little retouching but I love that blue.

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>>16174455
I'd check around eBay or even local car groups on Facebook for a used one in need of rebuild, I've seen a few pop up on the nwc10 page for $150 in good condition and relatively new still.


I went new cause it was going on an all new motor, plus time constraints, needed as few potential things to go wrong as possible.

>>16174709
well now that I have found the single hardest part of the swap (motor stands for a SBF), I have to find the next hardest part for the swap, headers that will fit the GT40p's.

>have car with obscure make
>often time just listed under its parent company
>not all the time though
>have to explain it EVERY time I need a part
>today I had to fight with the dildo at the DMV who wouldn't believe me that they had the make down wrong

If we just abolished the DMV right now no one would be upset

>let myself get talked into buying a M35A2
>this was 3 months ago
>literally cannot find one reason why I thought this was a good idea
>slow as fuck, hard as fuck to drive, takes ton of effort to even start despite being in nearly perfect working order

A-atleast the roof comes off

Finished installing a relay for my electric fuel pump. Too bad the fuel pump isn't plumbed into anything.

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Adding one or two more items to my collection in the near future, this is enough projects for now.

>>16175139
Nice square, it's an '80 right?

>>16175246
Yep, 1980 with aftermarket lightweight panels, swapped grille, 350 block with L82 bottom end, world 220 heads, cam, 3.50 rear gear, TH350. Tow a trailer with it now.

>>16175278
Sounds nice man, looks great from the front too, don't see the 80's with square lights very often. I've got the rusty white '81 posted earlier, just a basic 350 crate that replaced the old 305, cam swap will eventually happen some day.


>suspension comes next

>>16175284
My father builds engines for a living so I'm sure something like a turbo 396 is in the near future. Looking at buying a newer truck to tow with, so this will be a weekend driver, along with the BMW in the picture.

I can't see doing any suspension mods to it, if I'm honest. Mine has the towing package, so it's got stiffer rears, but past that it's fine.

>>16175317
Was implying mine, every bushing is shot, shocks are done, etc. Planning to do a 4/6 drop, new ball joints, bushings, shocks, tie rods, shocks and leafs, bigger front sway bar as well as adding a rear sway bar, it'll still haul enough shit in the bed for what I tend to use it for, and if I ever need more I can borrow my dads 3/4 ton which is the family work horse.
>turbo 396
Do it. Something different from an lsmeme swap too.

>>16175331
I know you were talking about yours, I just don't see the point in lowering a truck if I'm honest. I mean, to each their own, but eh.

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>>16175334
Nah I get you, for me it's both the look but also handling, it's my DD/weekend cruiser/work bitch, but being a half ton swb it's not doing major work anyways, just weekly hauls of stuff.

>>16174910
What do you have? I have the same issue with my Imperial.

Where do you yankees find "cheap" Ls engines?
Cheapest lsx I found was like 19000$
19k is not cheap and for that much money I can get serious hp out of turbo engine, question is are they really cheaper way to get reliable hp? To me they don't seem to be worth it.

>>16175670
Depends, by ls do mean an actual ls1 or ls6 or by ls do mean just ls family? Because I can get any old lc9 out of a rekt pickup for like 250$ at a junkyard

16000, seems a bit absurd when you can get a plug and play ls3 for like 7k out the door with all the computers and fuel injection necessary. You could find donor ls engines for like 2 to 4k on Craigslist though

>>16175670
Junkyards, ebay, local pick-n-pulls. Any yard that doesn't offer a 30-day or so return on any non-running or internally damaged engines/bad ecu's are shit and not worth buying from.


If you're really trying to stay cheap, get one of the 4.8/5.3 iron block or something, aluminum runs cost up as yards have caught onto the lsmeme

>>16175670
Literally a 5 second search of LS on craigslist http://youngstown.craigslist.org/pts/5861881842.html
>>16175331
I'll be doing an LS swap in my k10 when I get it. I'm getting rid of the EFI though and going with a carb. Wanna rely on as little electronics as possible since its gonna see a lot of mud and water.
Gonna mate it to an NV4500 and np205 tcase

>>16175877
>NV4500 and np205 tcase
Nice

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>>16167985
Holy fug. I'm normally not much of a wagon guy but this is fucking glorious, well done good sir.

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>>16172506
Started stripping the 302 down to the block with Comet buddy last night to prep it for cleaning and resealing. Looks like he did pretty good for $400, dirty, but no cracks, rust, or signs of unusual wear. The anticipation is killing me, it's going to look absolutely beautiful in a couple week's time.

>>16176232
Yep advance adapters is literally gonna make the entire swap a cake walk. Think my biggest issue will come in tracking down the trans

>>16176504
Yeah I feel that. I had the hardest time finding sbf motor mounts but finally a guy popped up, and I got a good deal.

>>16176504
Where do you think you'll find a trans? Also do you have the t case already?

>>16175670
>Cheapest lsx I found was like 19000$
>lsx
That's why so expensive. The LSX is a 775hp crate engine that has an MSRP of $25K. Jeg's shows in stock for $16,700, and Summit shows on back order for the same price.

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mufuggin neutral safety switch all along.

305friend here with probably 120HP. What kind of horsepower gives you that sink in your seat acceleration? What would you want in a daily driver burnout machine?

>>16177187
At least 240 at the wheels is when things get fun, but it depends on the vehicle as well.

>>16177257
Right. I'm afraid of doing a swap for like 300HP and then realizing it was actually slower than my mom's sedan.

>>16177266
What car? With 300hp and a good transmission odds are a 4200lb vehicle will run a 14 second quarter.

You will be able to fuck up some tires with 300hp at the cranks

>>16177266
>I'm afraid of doing a swap for like 300HP and then realizing it was actually slower than my mom's sedan.
change gear ratios.

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>tfw first snow
I should probably install a heater...

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>>16178237
>2wd

>>16178245
Gonna rip some totally hektik doriftus

>>16176353
I'm loving the toilet drink table

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>>16176821
when you realize it was the simplest god damn thing all along.

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>>16178272
The intake manifold was working pretty well before we popped it off.

>>16178333
Pretty sure the PO unplugged it thinking it was just like the seatbelt switch and that that would disable the switch.

What he didn't know was that the relay won't connect the ignition switch to the starter without it.
This is fucked.

>>16178584
what the hell kind of new fangled manifold is that? I've never seen one like that before.

>>16178604
well atleast you've got a newly rebuilt starter though. I parked my car for like 2 months before because I thought the starter gear was completely fucked and it was a pain in the ass to take out. Turns out it was just the top bolt that had come loose and moved the starter away from the flywheel. So you're not the only one who makes stupid mistakes.

>>16178654
That's fuel injected. If it's a Ford motor, looks like a gt40 intake

>>16178667
looks like the perfect candidate for some weird ass quad 2bbl setup.

>>16178689
What like quad Weber's? It's not a lm engine m8

>>16175651
Well looks like we are in the same boat, that's mine as well.

Pics?

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>>16178957

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>>16178957
What year is yours? Mine's a '66.

>>16179026
Lewd

That nozzle's going right up the back

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>>16178654
He pulled it from an early 90's Mustang, he's pulling all of the EFI parts and slappin' a new Edelbrock 4 barrel + manifold on it.

>>16176546
>>16176548
I have 2 tcases technically lol the one that's already on the truck and the one my buddy has on his parts truck.
Probably just gonna hunt Craigslist for the trans

>>16179026
>>16179013
Oh wow that's nice, mines a 65 but a total shitpile in comparison

So my buddy offered to sell me his 02 Pontiac Sunfire for 500. Thing is a 2.2 auto, but it only has 150k miles. What do?

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>>16179625
Seeing as I just sold mine a while ago, I'd say yes. But it is gutless and most certainly is common as fuck and outstandingly average. Does it have a CD player, AC and cruise or is it a super base model?
How's the condition of it?
Parts are cheap and everything is fairly easy to work on that's for sure.
Also, the oil filter is in a stupid spot and there's no tranny dipstick

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>>16179437
Got any pictures? I love the '65/'66 Imperials; they're GREAT cars.

>>16179663
It's got those things. It's in decent condition, he's owned it for 4 years and drives like a pussy.

>>16179743
If you have any questions about it, ask away

>>16179764
How much do you think I could flip it for?

>>16179625
Don't you still have the Acura?

Save your money for a moto

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What I'm currently working on; 1984 15th anniversary Firebird T/A. Bought it off a friend of my old man's for $1500; finally paid it off a few weeks ago after about 7 months of payments.

>The good

Car is mostly intact; has some cosmetic issues from sitting for 5 years or so. Before that, was DD'd for a while, but mostly just around town, nothing major. In the 16 years the guy owned it, he put probably about 8-9k miles on it.

>The bad
Have to go through 2 previous owners and their half assed wiring, quick fixes, etc etc; that and the fact that I have ANOTHER car made of unobtanium parts. First kid that bought it off the first owner took all the 80s GM smog shit off and bypassed a lot of the electronic shit. P.O I bought it from took the original H.O 305 it came with out of it and put a '79 C10 350 into it and piggybacked a lot of what was left of the emission shit onto it.

End result was a car that needs a lot of re-wiring, random emission shit that goes nowhere deleted, and a general overhaul of the suspension, brakes, etc etc.

Good news is that the car runs, albeit shittily. PO swears up and down it's a bad cam / lifters, but I'm not 100% sold on that notion.

>muh turd gen feels.

>>16179784
Depends how good of shape it's really in. No one really flips Sunfires. They are a dime a dozen kinda car.
I paid $1400 for mine and only got $1500 when I sold it, after I put new pads in the front and machined the rotors, fixed cruise control, put in a new muffler, fixed the HVAC controls and put in new plugs and wires.

And I only got that much for it cause they car was in incredible shape inside and out. Barely even leaked a drop of oil with 236 000 Km on it even

My 280ZX still isn't firing up after I flushed the old gas out. I'm thinking that I need to get a logic tester and see if the injectors are getting pulse. Either they are getting pulse and the bad gas gummed the injectors up or they aren't getting pulse because some electrical fault is preventing them from firing as part of a safety feature

Any thoughts guys?

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>>16179792
Newer picture; went through the interior, and a lot of the wiring inside the car. Sanded, prepped, and bed-lined the floors. Cleaned up everything save the door panels and dash.

Need some seat covers though. Was going to toss the floor-mats, but I like Marvin, and it's a cool cheese factor.

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my good ol 86'
427
700R4
>fuck the 305
>overdrive for a good time

>>16179786
Yeah, but I could flip it.

>>16179801
That's not bad though. That's like a 180 prevent margin

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>>16179807
That fresh floor feel. I also did the same, as well as fixing rusted floors on my project, also put in a brand new carpet and Hush mat sound and heat dampener

>>16179814
Plugs and wires were $60, pads were $45 and the muffler was $20, so I made no money off of it

>>16179824
I feel it, but I can buy it for 500, if I sell it for 1k I'm in the black

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>>16179819
Exactly what I did, amigo. I got lucky with the floors; they were still pristene from the factory with only a few spots of surface rust. Treated everything with Ospho, and then layed down some thick bedliner.

Put about an inch or two of sound deadener and insulation down to keep the temps cool, then put the carpet back inside. Not too bad on cost either to re-insulate.

>>16179814
Sell it to me, I need a car for my sister in law

>>16179847
Ok, I'll sell it you for 750. You've just got to come and get it lol

>>16179853
Store it for me until April

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>>16179826
I say go for it, just be wary of leaks from the transmission. It's even in the owners manual that if there's any leak from the trans that it should be taken care of ASAP.

The joys of having a transmission with no dipstick

>>16179830
Aside from the seats, the rest of the interior looks decent. Same as mine

>>16179861
>April
Bruv. I'm not paying insurance for 6 months

>>16179722
None on my phone, I might drop by where its stored tomorrow and get some. It's flat black, don't even know the original color since it has so many layers of repaints over the years.

Is that silver Imperial part of the air cleaner metal? I didn't get an air cleaner with mine so I had to slap a generic chrome one on there till I find an original.

Lastly, how does it drive? I have never actually had mine at a point where it was driveable

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>>16179804
>tfw no (you)'s on these threads
>tfw S130's are too "modern" for classics threads
>tfw S130's are too old for import threads

>>16179865
So don't? I don't know what the insurance rules are in Denver

>>16179891
You're talking about Fuel injectors in your post, That shit is 2 new 4 me. Carbed or nothing

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>>16179891
we welcome them on /DDT but none of us have started a thread in a while. I like them, these wheels look crazy.

>>16179892
You have to have insurance in co though

>>16179926
I think it depends on where you store it. If you are driving it then yes you have to have insurance

>>16179886
Oh and here's a story to rumble your jimbos
>really would benefit from a parts car
>but have never seen another for sale anywhere near me, even in good condition
>driving around one day and spot familiar propeller shaped bumper in storage yard
>someone has FIVE 65-66 Imperials sitting in outdoor storage
>one in convertible with the top down
>not only that but there are a few 62-63 and a handful of other classics
>all bunched in one corner so you just know they all belong to the same person
>just know they are owned by some boomer who will want $50k a piece or they aren't for sale cause he is gonna fix them someday

Storage lots are a cancer that allow people to hoard crap they would otherwise get rid of if they had to keep it all in their driveway

>>16179934
We'll see, but I'm probably going to try to flip it ASAP

>>16180011
Don't be gay

Message me on ADV about it

>>16180039
I will when I get on my laptop

>>16179886
It's a decal on an aluminum piece; I have a few spares around here because it was cheaper to buy 12 on eBay than one at a junk yard.

I stockpile a lot of parts due to the rarity of these cars.

They are a pleasure to drive; mine still has its original drum brakes, but even those are adequate. I've thrown the thing around corners and it handles a lot better than it has any right to. I use mine as a daily driver, too.

>>16181203
I'm pretty jelly, do you have a winter to drive it through?

>>16181203
>it handles a lot better than it has any right to.

Yeah, same with my 68 galaxie. I can swear up and down it handles 10 times better than my 01 malibu, when in all respects it really shouldn't be.

>>16167986
Explain pls

>>16181561
You've finally learned that /o/ memes aren't true, congrats.

>>16181331
I live a bit North of Houston; the closest thing we get to winter is a few 40° days. I love it. On the 60° days, I can drive around in my Excalibur with the top down and heater on for maximum comfort.

The South is the best place for a classic car enthusiast to live, as you can drive one year-round.

Once I get the DeLorean straightened out, I'm going to have the interior redone on my Imperial, then pull the engine, rebuild it, have the car repainted, and reinstall the engine.

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>>16181624
not to mention the lack of rust on southern cars.

>>16181624
Yeah but I really dislike humidity. The dry is where it's at

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>>16184855
trump voter and not worried about the backlash aye..

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>>16184982
Not afraid; armed.

>>16185155
I hope so, that economic crash his policies will bring will make them useful.

>>16184855
Dude I get a guy taking a picture of my bumper sticker once every few weeks from behind when we're at the lights.

Thanks m8

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page 8 bump

>>16185160
I highly doubt that will happen. Current trends in the market prove otherwise and an increase in domestic production may have a rocky transition for the working man, but is should yield net gains.

The important thing is the cabinet appointees and policy changes; both of which I'm optimistic about.

Damn niggas i can't believe it.
Plugged in the neutral safety switch and it turned over
damn all this time

And then i took the non vented gas cap off and the carb got gas

damn this is cray but it feels good as shit

>>16187225
Lel. You got it to fire yet?

>>16187329
i had it firing a while ago, right now what needs to be done is fixing the throttle cable, choke, and kickdown.

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>page 10

WEW
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>>16189853
keepin the dream alive

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https://daytona.craigslist.org/cto/5862352775.html
Should I do it?

>>16158581
Can I have Dracula's number too? I think I got it, but I may have the one he changed it to. I've met him in person, but /hou/ is sort of a mess right now.

Also directed at Dracula if he's reading this.

>>16190391
eh I wouldn't, looks like more work than it's worth.

>>16190674
Get my number from the contact section of this Craigslist ad:

http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/5884970975.html

>>16192104
Why are you selling the delorean?

>>16192136
oh nevermind i had to read the ad first.

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Benz is in garage during winter so now it's time to explode it to smithereens and rebuild everything with full on autismo mode.

Started at front end today.

>>16192530
is that one of the years with mechanical fuel injection?

>>16192590
1983 Euro model 200 with newer M102 carb engine (same engine is in 190), 109 horsepower.

>bump limit

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