[ D a i l y B i k e T h r e a d ] - /dbt/

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first for I'm a mechanic now because I replaced a screw in my topbox that keeps the lid from falling backwards when opening it

threadly reminder that honda a shit

>>15237670
I'm worried that you think a car brake assembly is a top box.

>>15237665
don't fall for the "semi auto", "you can still shift manually" idiots
you're relinquishing control of your transmission to a computer
>plus, since you want to go Touring, should your battery die, you're screwed

>>15237667
no it ain't
the ecu is in control, even traditional torque converter autos have a "lock" gear

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>>15237670
am i also mechanic now?

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>>15237670
>His top box doesn't open at least 110 degrees
M8

>>15237674
>>plus, since you want to go Touring, should your battery die, you're screwed

Isn't that true of all EFI bikes with electric fuel pumps?

biweekly reminder that you need to maintain your riding boots

>>15237675
I dunno did you replace any screws?

>>15237678
holy shit that plate

>>15237679
absolutely not
any normal bike can run with no battery, but DCTs need current to engage their clutches
>they can't be bumpstarted
also they're heavier than their manual counterpart

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>>15237675
we mechanic now

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>>15237680
boot maintenance you say?

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>>15237680
Yeah mine are a year and a half old, looking very tatty now, don't have a spare £100 at the moment for new ones though, and then if I get cheap ones they will probably last just as long again.

I'd love to get some proper Sidi boots, at the moment I just have some Richa touring boots which are comfy but look shit and are no longer waterproof.

>>15237687
>any normal bike can run with no battery, but DCTs need current to engage their clutches
What's powering the fuel pump? A lot of modern ECUs won't trigger ignition without some voltage read from the battery and if the battery (or wiring loom) is damaged in such a way that it's shorting out then you're just going to cook your alternator.

>>15237693
Excellent work. Can I ask why you did not put zip ties around the nose to compensate for the limited grip provided by the electrical tape?

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>>15237687
>>>15237679
>absolutely not
An EFI bike can't be run on less than 12v, bump start or not. You need 12v to get fuel to the injectors and to power the ecu.

>not having a crock pot in your top box

>>15237700
Thanks, that's what I thought. I'm also struggling to think of scenarios where your battery would suddenly die in the middle of nowhere but the bike would be left otherwise unharmed. I've only seen one accident where battery acid ended up on the road and the entire motorcycle was torn asunder.

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>>15237683
im doing a complete engine rebuild
>>15237688
just like the professionals do

>>15237704
all it takes is for the alternator to not be working at full regime
>>15237700
>>15237696
my shitbike would beg to differ

how many bong till fp1

>>15237714
dude its like 2 weeks till the race who cares about practice

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>>15237663
first for honda not a shit!

>>15237707
What progress have you made rebuilding the exc? Surely it's close to finished its been a couple weeks.

>>15237740
nice grom

Doing the fork seals on the 600 today, will post sexypics of lewd bike

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>>15237748
fastest grom in the west

>>15237746
the new battery got here today.. still waiting on the new top and bottom end to get here, have the engine sitting in bits waiting for the parts to go in >>15237675

>>15237740
too slow like every honda

>>15237740
>>15237756
sorry for your loss

>>15237760
I'm actually looking forward to when my 300exc needs a rebuild. I find it so enjoyable and calming.
I envy that you get to do both top and bottom ends.

>>15237769
Probably the easiest engine rebuild you will ever do, takes maybe an hour to get the engine out of the bike and another hour to strip it completely, if you only have to do the top end you don't even need to take the engine out of the frame

>>15237769
also post your 300

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>>15237780
I've rebuilt YZ/KX250s before. I'd imagine they're similar.

Old pic but it hasn't changed.

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>>15237756
>>15237740
Rode my brother's the other day. Definitely a great DD, but the speed did not impress.

>>15237801
yeah its just always nice working on a ktm everything is easy to get to.
i don't ever remember seeing that on here, looks like a 2010, how long have you had it?

> walk past Mercedes dealer every time I go to work
> every time there's a red and a blue SL 550 that makes my dick hard
> look up prices
> they literally cost as much as a house
NOPE
I'm sticking to bikes, tyvm

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>>15237740
-he says posting the worst, slowest, heaviest, worst value and most outdated 1000cc naked on the market.

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>>15237839
I've had it for probably ~6 months also posted it on /dat/ and /dbt/ multiple times.

Traded my yz250 in for it with cash adjustment. It's a bit rough around the edges in some places like a few dints in the rims and expansion chamber dings.
But mechanically it's perfect.

I need to find some better indicators for it though I keep kicking them off every time I get on and off the bike.

But since I got pic related it hasn't seen much use. At least I can wrench on it in my spare time.

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I rode a Honda today
it was OK.

>>15237855
did the Honda like it two?

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>some fag pulls up next to me in his dad's camaro or mustang thinking its a fast car
>window down looking at me obviously wants to race
>leave him behind to look at my back
>eventually pulls up at next light completely avoiding eye contact and window up

is there any better feeling?

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>>15237832
>but the speed did not impress.
fair enough, what are you comparing it to?

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>>15237862
I think so and I hope so.

>>15237854
Fair enough, im a bit the opposite, i left all my dirt bikes in bits for 3 years after i bought my road bike and now since putting the 300 back together i don't want to ride on the road anymore.

And about the indicators, there aren't any good ones.
I run rec rego mainly because mirrors and indicators come off nearly every ride, im guessing no rec rego in your state?

>>15237852
I'm confused. Is the GSX meant to be more desirable than the CB?

>>15237864
The feeling is probably better if you outrace him on a motorcycle you fucking nobike

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>took my bike to the dealer to have them put on some frame sliders
>couple days later
>find a screw laying next to my rear tire
>haven't ridden bike in over a day
>look all over the bike where i can see and don't see any screws missing

>>15237873
>people that still think hondas are worth buying

top cuck

I need to walk all the way to the store to buy a new battery.

Help.

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>minutes to refresh
>reddit being more responsive rn

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>>15237873
Lets be honest, you didn't even post the desirable cb lets be honest.

>>15237873
>desirable

doesn't matter what this means, you retards here like whatever you do for inane reasons, arguing with people who think carbs are the best, think drum brakes are good, think they can outride traction control even though they've never ridden anything larger than a 250 and can't go around onramps without running into trucks is pointless.

But is the GSX better motorcycle overall? doubtless, it's 9 years newer, has better bits and weighs much less.

>>15237872
QLD so no. But rego is only $250/year which I can easily justify paying.

It's still the bike I can jump on with minimal gear to go down to the shops for lunch and then go terrorise a nearby park or reserve.

I'm waiting for my mate to fix his kx125 so we can head to some organised rides and state forests again.

Didn't think there'd be a replacement. Think I might have to silicone them to the fender so they stop falling off.

>>15237883
>jap teenager training bike

How many of you actually commute to work on your bike? My jobs about 40 mins from my house and I've always driven my car... but I bought a bike a couple months ago and wanna make the switch but i'm still kinda scared to. I've put 2k miles on the bike already so I feel pretty confident on it but damn the thought of driving it 40 mins each way during rush hour is kinda scary.

>>15237876
>>took my bike to the dealer to have them put on some frame sliders
> to the dealer
> put on some frame sliders
Are you literally, actually retarded?

>>15237887
when i had full rego on my 300 i screwed them into the tail light mount with self tapping bolts

>>15237890
yeah kinda, its my first bike and i've only had it a month

ima go buy some soap to wash my ass with and some chicken tendies
r8 my day

>>15237865
My brother's old CBR600RR.

>>15237897
you don't have a socket set to undo the bolts?
or some spanners maybe?

>>15237897
Dude it's literally replacing three screws, and you couldn't do that yourself or ask a relative / friend to help you? Please tell me how much the dealer charged you for it so I can laugh at you.

>>15237906
80 bucks

>>15237852
>awful throttle response, bumpy nonlinear torque curve, electronic nannies
You do get an 8kg lighter bike and 25HP more, but that's about it really.

>>15237892
The purple straps in the earlier photo are holding the licence plate holder onto the rear fender. All the bolt mounts have snapped or sheared off.

It's a dirt bike so this sort of shit just happens

>>15237865
his dragon dildo

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>>15237909

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>>15237910
>electronic nannies

ooh, sorry anon. I already predicted that on the chart of /dbt/ bullshit here

>>15237885
>think they can outride traction control even though they've never ridden anything larger than a 250

you'll have to be more original with your retardation than that, I know your every move!

>>15237909
that's literally 80 more dollars than it cost to install

>>15237885
I haven't test ridden the new GSX but I found the suspension on the previous generation to be what could best be described as unrefined. As for the weight, the actual mass is only half the story, where it is makes a huge difference and Honda are masters at making that weight disappear.

>>15237924
>handleing 3/10

>>15237924
there is no such thing as a previous generation of gsx-s1000

>>15237922
well im completely new to motorcycles, like i said its my first one and i don't feel confident in taking the fairings off and screwing around with bolts and engine parts.. i'd rather just pay someone that knows what they're doing

>>15237876
Literally, not figuratively, literally two minutes with a 14mm socket and a ratchet...

>>15237911
kinda surprised i havent done that to mine with how often i flip the damned thing

>>15237928
> I don't feel confident in taking the fairings off
HAHAHA oh god stop please m8 I can't take it anymore.
Post this on reddit, you'll fit right in.

Can a capacitor be damaged by an almost dead battery?

>>15237921
I'm in favour of ABS but I have no need or desire for traction control.
Powering out of corners at the traction limit is not my riding style on the road.
Fair enough if you are looking for the fastest touge times but TC offers absolutely no benefit to me and while it isn't a big deal I'd rather have a bike without. Matter of fact, I do.

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>>15237930
>>15237932
quit bullying me

>>15237926
nice argument

>>15237930
go sit
on
your
dildo

>>15237888
>1300
>teenage training bike
Are you that one guy's nephew?

>>15237936
>Powering out of corners at the traction limit is not my riding style on the road.

then why would you have any umbridge with TC?

lol you retards crack me up every time.

Come on, post that 250. I want to see it.

>>15237937
Quit being a power bottom. Go take your fairings off just so you know how to do it you fuckstick.

>>15237927
Isn't it based on the last gen GSX-R1000? It corners in a way that isn't going to fuck you but isn't comfortable either. It's not Bandit-tier but it doesn't feel like much R&D happened.

>>15237926
But 10/10 chicken strips

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>>15237937
>>15237939
You're asking for it m80, not even I am THAT retarded and I'm quite retarded as people here can attest to.

>>15237942
This, traction control isn't just for squids on the track, it's for people who suddenly find that shiny patch of tarmac is slick with oil, not water.

>>15237942
Maybe he doesn't want the additional weight, possibility of malfunctions and cost?

>>15237954
>possibility of malfunctions

If you live in perpetual fear of a component on your motorcycle failing despite adequate maintenance, you should buy a bicycle, rip the chain and pedals off and kick it along.

>>15237901
>twice as many R's
well of course, that's like cheating

>>15237946
no it has the engine out of a 2005-2008 GSX-R1000 (which is great, I've ridden an 07 one, that engine is perfect) and the swingarm off a current gsx-r1000.

The frame is completely different.

>>15237954
If he doesn't want the weight then why would he be rejecting the bike with it in favour of a bike that weighs 13 kg more?

Don't get me wrong, buy whatever you want to buy.

I just want to show that /dbt/ has absolutely no reason to think half the shit they do.

They decided they're a honda fan 4 lyfe because they like their honda 250 and so they think it's better. It's that simple, I know it, you know it.

>>15237956
> maintenance
> on TC and other electronic gizmos
Have fun with that.
> perpetual fear
More like risk management. But I'm not the guy you were arguing with, just offering some possible explanations why some people might prefer to have no TC. I'm actually in favor of it.

>>15237959
>no it has the engine out of a 2005-2008 GSX-R1000
This bit confused me, some sources have said it's a 2005-2008 engine, which had a displacement just a hair below 999cc while others that list the displacement (and also list the 2005-2008 as just under 999cc) list it at exactly 999cc.

>>15237964
>implying they'd need constant maintenance
I don't think I've ever touched the TCS or ABS of a car I've owned, unless it was physically damaged (as in a wreck).

>>15237964
TC just uses the existing ABS sensors feeding data to the ECU. If it fails, just pull the fuse and ride the bike without TC.

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Im getting a DT 125 '78 soon. Anything i should know?

>>15237931
Yours blew up so there's that....

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>>15237969
again, refer to what I've said previously. These are the people who think carbs are better than EFI because they're "easy to work on" as though you'll ever touch the EFI on your bike.

Don't bother, just mock.

>>15237973
If you're going to disable it anyway, why pay for it?

>>15237969
after seeing my buddy loop his duke because abs decided to commit seppuku i ain't gonna touch anything with such a critical component mounted under the headers, as a bellypan or under the ecu, sandwiched between a cat and the tyre itself

>>15237969
Every vehicle I've ever owned has had the ABS out at some point due to a bad/dirty speed sensor. Those are mostly 10 year old rusty Ford Rangers, so not a problem a bike would have, but it's definitely not rare.

>>15237974
Be aware that it has oil injection (at least my roommates DT70 did) and don't put premix in it.

>>15237974
>Anything i should know?
you should know that you shouldn't get one

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>>15237979
GSX-S is cheaper than the CB1000R

>>15237979
>If you're going to disable it anyway, why pay for it?

For the overwhelming majority of the time when it doesn't fail and saves your ass from unseen slippery conditions?

>>15237959
It may have the same engine but it uses a crappy fuel map and garbage restrictive exhaust system.
Having to get a PC5 just to make a bike usable is extremely annoying and while it's not Suzuki's fault directly it's not exactly a selling point.

>>15237986
> sacrifice build quality so you can lower the price
> put cheap TC in for retards like you so sales go up
> if you don't like it just disable it hurr
> still paid for it
> meanwhile Honda makes high quality bike and if you want TC you buy it separately

>>15237991
> unseen slippery conditions
Shit rider detected. So when last year did you get your license? Still enjoying that 125 of yours?

>>15237986
Not used they aren't and why would you buy an effectively 5 year old bike new?

>>15237976
the engine sat without the expansion chamber or carby on it for 2 years and was not started for 3, im surprised it managed to do 30 hours of riding before the bottom end bearing decided to die

>>15238000
I guess you don't ride enough to encounter that sort of thing. Do you just stick to sitting on your bike, revving it in neutral, screaming every so often when you accidentally click into gear at the horror of potentially venturing onto the road?

>>15237991
TC only saves you if you are about to hamfist the throttle.
If you slide out under smooth acceleration it wouldn't have been triggered anyway.
And unlike hard braking and the consequent ABS advantage there is rarely every any need to accelerate hard.

>>15237985
Why not?

I'm getting it for free.

ABS and TC saved my bike on the same day in different circumstances.

>hit ped X-ing lines in the wet going downhill on a shitty off camber road
>TC saves bike

>hit oil slick mid corner in the wet
>TC saves bike

>dog decides to commit sudoku and runs in front of me
>ABS and TC save bike

TC and ABS are just memes guys

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>>15237995
>sacrifice build quality

and I'm going to guess you've never ever been in the same room as one.

Like I said, same old /dbt/ bullshit.

this has been fun, but I still didn't get to see your sweet 250 so I guess I'm gonna go to bed now.

toodle-o

>>15238007
post 250

>>15238007
>there is rarely every any need to accelerate hard
>Implying you will always have perfect control of the throttle at all times

>>15238006
honestly, if you can't spot shitty road condition or don't know how to deal with shitty tarmac it's clearly you who hasn't been riding for long

>>15238010
Traction control wouldn't do anything in these cases though since Hydroplaning and a total lack of grip [oil] aren't something torque vectoring is going to fix.

>Dog runs in front of you

ABS saved you but braking without locking the wheels up at all would have been faster.

>>15238010
Then explain why i have never had a crash on my bike in 3 and a half years of riding the thing and it has no ABS and no traction control, it doesn't even have a steering dampener.

>>15238016
True, if your bike has snatchy-as-hell throttle response like the GSX-S you are liable to to accidentally break traction. Other than that I don't see how you could accidentally give significantly more throttle than you intended to unless you have the motor skills of a child.

>>15238019
honestly, if you've never encountered a shitty road condition that was impossible to spot in advance, it's clearly you who hasn't been riding for long

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>>15238015
>and I'm going to guess you've never ever been in the same room as one.
WRONG
Then again I'm only memeing.
> tfw don't have the MAJESTIC picture on my work pc

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Have a good week end DBT

>>15238027
>reality is limited by my lack of imagination

>>15238015
>post 250
I would if I had one but my bike has 2.7 times the displacement.

>>15238003
Can't imagine it was running well in those 30 hours before it decided to self destruct.

Just wait until she's fully rebuilt with working bearings and oil that's not sludge. It'll go like raped ape

>>15238026
Because you never rode it, see >>15238006

>>15238029
no, i have
and then i learnt how to avoid it

>>15238035
>my imaginary scenarios constitute a valid argument

>>15238015
i would, but >>15238036 mine triples that

>>15238039
Not venturing on the road or being as easily spooked as a horse, slowing to a crawl every time anything odd appears?

>>15238036
post daytona

>>15238050
>daytona
>not a CBR900RR with a cylinder missing

>>15238023
TC on my bike works on wheel rotation speeds. If the back wheel spins faster than the front TC slows the rear down.

You can call this bs all you want but I'd sooner trust BMW mechanics than a few anonymous no bikes on the internet telling me how my bike works.

If I didn't have TC or ABS in any of these circumstances my new bike would've been a write off.

>>15238037
was actually running extremely well, was starting first kick every time and it was having no problems eating my mates yz450 alive on the straights so the power was still there, only sign something was wrong is it was fouling spark plugs.
as far as oil goes i use automatic trans fluid in the gearbox of the 300 so i change it after every ride because shits cheap.
2 smoke has no engine oil, it is in the fuel

>>15238054
>i remember seeing idiots on a salt track killing 2, then 3 cylinders to cheat the tiers regulations

>>15238010
if that shit was needed to save you then you suck .

>>15238055
>trusting 'engineers' who make self destructing engines

>>15238055
Nice appeal to authority nerd.

>>15237889
I commute on mine in Los Angeles. I use surface streets and lane split, it goes fine.

>>15237889
>doesn't know the majority of DBT is yuropeen
>doesn't know they're mostly broke students
>and a broke freelance journalist

i've never had a car

>>15237889
I live in the country, Kangaroos and wombats are out in the morning and my car has a big fuck off steel bull bar on it.

>>15237630
>That is really the only interesting thing in my town.
What about your sister?

>>15238064
I bet you hate heated grips and cruise control as well

>>15237889
I commute and travel on my bike. I've driven my car twice this summer, once to move it to my new residence, and this past week because bike is laid up in the garage waiting for parts to come in.
>parts came in yesterday
>fucking mong behind the counter ordered me a master link instead of a sprocket washer
>everything is fixed but unridable until that comes in
>reee

I (>>15237910) would like to make ann announcement:
After considering the arguments made on both sides I conclude that there really is nothing wrong with TC and I wouldn't mind it if my next bike had one. However unless Suzuki fixes the fuelling I'd rather have the CB1000R because it is refined in every aspect.

>>15238083
Nigga my DRZ has heated grips and cruise control (actually a throttle lock but close enough), that shit ain't special or factory.

>>15238059
2 stroke premix in the fuel and gearbox oil. You know what I meant

>>15238083
>Heated grips
Makes the grips twice as fat, this is a good thing?
>Cruise control
On a bike? Next you will tell me about how you only ride in the rain like a hardcore rider should and how you love wearing 6 layers of clothes under your bike gear and then a plastic condom over that while gripping your oversized heated grips with your equally control reducing padded mittens.

>>15238086
>refined

>I can't legitimately justify paying more for less so I'll misuse words to justify my rabid fanboyism

>>15238092
>Makes the grips twice as fat, this is a good thing?
No, but worth it.

>ride in the rain like a hardcore rider should
yes
>you love wearing 6 layers of clothes under your bike gear and then a plastic condom over that
Don't love it but I deal
>while gripping your oversized heated grips with your equally control reducing padded mittens
See previous answer

>>15238096
You're dumb and he's got a good point you bench racer.

>>15238089
yeah im just tired so i take everything literally, am looking forward to running that bike in again with all new everything in the engine, will be funny if the aftermarket parts i have ordered are actually worse than the factory ktm parts

>>15238096
>implying implications
I like the CB1000R, it one of the only Hondas I would want to own.
It's also significantly cheaper than the GSX-S1000 while having much better fuelling.

>>15238101
>bench racer.
You have no idea who I am and if you did you wouldn't embarrass yourself with dismissive shit like this.

>>15238104
Matter of fact I'd take the GSX-R1000 K6 over both.

>>15238106
Ok queer.

>>15238106
>You have no idea who I am
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

>>15238092
Cruise control is a lot better than trigger finger imo senpai

Y'all fuckers and your "ABS AND TC MAKE ME SLOW HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR"

Jesus christ, it's like you guys only ride on flat, straight roads and that's why you go "hurr, I can see shit miles away". Sure ABS/TC aren't needed at all in practically every case, but if you're riding a lot, why the fuck not have it, it's just a nice thing to have, that can really help, and if you really think you can out brake ABS on a street going bike in street going situations when not paying complete attention you must be fuckin casey stoner. But you're not.

If you actually rode bikes like a champ, you'd know that touge's can be unpredictable, especially when you're knee down around blind corners where you can't see if shit is on the road.

People dissing on TC and ABS honestly just need to go ride over oil mud shit, and come back and say "I didn't need TC at all, I felt fine."

>coming from a dude who has never owned a bike with ABS or TC, ever, yet even ridden one.
>owned 17 bikes so far

>>15238092
I have big hands so it's good for me especially since it's winter here now. Riding to work when it's 8c can get pretty cold.

Also I commute on the highway to and from work every day so cruise control is fantastic for when I can't be fucked holding the throttle open.

As for your blog I only have a leather jacket for protection apart from a helmet, my work boots and summer riding gloves (because heated grips).

Surely people have cars for when it rains? Who the fuck would willingly ride in the rain? The only time I've ever ridden in the rain is when I've had no choice. Shits too dangerous otherwise

>>15238122
Explain why MotoGP uses traction control?

>>15238122
Also following onto this. Heated grips are a blessing when you commute on a bike with wind chills below 0 in freezing rain.

I wish I had cruise control, shit would be mad for touring.

Also, rain gear, don't diss on what people wear, some people don't like getting sick.

>>15238122
youre not even a real rider in my eyes

>>15238132
Why they use it? Because the rider chose that he wanted TC to help him control the power.

Also, comparing street riding, to MotoGP is beyond autistic.

>>15238122
What did you say about me you little bitch...

>>15238102
Run in periods terrify me. Keep thinking of all potential shit I missed in the rebuild.

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Finally back from Otztal.

>Almost ran over a cyclist with no effective lights (had a tiny LED headlight, less bright than that on a phone) or reflective ascending the tunnel
>Let him make the return journey in the beam of my headlights

Apparently, when he saw the twin beams approaching and heard the din of the parallel twin, he thought it was a truck further down the tunnel.

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>>15238122
I want to know what traction control would be like on a dirt road on a bike, i know ABS pretty much takes away your brakes completely so would it be like riding a bike with no power or brakes?

>>15238156
From the thumbnail I thought this was a screenshot of Metro 2033.

>>15238164
Dunno about TC, as I said never rode one, rode my dads ABS BMW and the brakes off road worked fine until I started going fast, of course if you hammer the brakes the ABS is going to flicker and you'll eventually come to a jarring stop. Definitely do not recommend though.

>>15238169
It was almost as spooky. The GoPro offers a much better view than I had because my eyes were ravaged by the brightness of snow-reflected light. I have a dark tinted visor and also had the internal sun visor down on the glacier but it wasn't enough to let me see beyond about 2 bike lengths in the tunnel with them removed.

>>15238175
my brothers mt-07 nearly completely loses its brakes off road, you can use maybe 10% front or rear before the abs starts kicking in, on my bike you can use a good 50% of the brakes before the front wheel starts to lock and maybe 20% of the rear before it locks

>>15238164
Depends how loose the road surface is and how much throttle you're giving it.

>>15238193
Again my dads bike was a GS so it is tailored for light offroading. Could have been a factor.

Also not surprising as the MT is tailored for the street with no offroad capabilities

>>15238122
FOUND THE HON-DA RIDER

>>15238203
The GS series have different modes as well that change when abs and TC kick in if at all.

>>15238164
>riding a japanese teenager's bike

>finally got around to watching Road
>opening scene is in tents

>>15238208
Only ever owned one Honda. CB250RS years ago.

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>>15238214
>being envious of my japanese teenager's learner bike

>>15238231
buying a bike because of animu
>>15238203
listen, mate
there's a reason why pretty much universally every non competitive rider dislikes abs and tc

also i challenge you to name one off road bike that uses such safety nets

>>15238231
Knobbies on the cb400 when vicanon?

>>15238239
I have no clue what point you're trying to prove. Offroad bikes apart from light offroad adventurers like GS' have a form of offroad ABS because generally people who buy those bikes are noob to offroad and get frightened at their front wheel locking up.

Again no idea what you're trying to prove?

My whole ABS TC thing was about street use not competitive and offroad.

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>>15238239
i bought that bike before the animu was a thing
>>15238244
when dirt squirter blows up again

>>15238239
What's the reason m8? I'm curious to know why so many people hate on ABS and TC.

Also KTM and BMW adventure bikes have ABS. Optional but they still have it

>>15238269
>I'm curious to know why so many people hate on ABS and TC

-Riding without them makes you a 'better' rider
-They cost money so either they have to be a waste or you have to admit you don't have as much money

>>15238269
Not him but i don't like traction control because every system i have come across lets you lose traction momentarily then cuts the power, talk about asking to highside, id rather lowslide tyvm.

As far as ABS is concerned it steals braking power, sure if you are someone who is likely to grab a hand full of brakes and eat shit get ABS but if you have good brake control you are better off without it.

I would never recommend ABS or TC for a beginner rider though, teaches bad habits of grabbing a hand full of brakes in panic situations and bad throttle control on corner exits which pretty much means they will never be able to ride a bike without those systems safely.

>mfw I saw TWO cagiva 125 girls today

Shit is getting crazy,
I can't possibly keep up with so many bikes to stalk.

>>15238296
What bikes have you been riding where TC cuts the power? My bimmer just rolls the power back so both wheels are going the same speed again regardless of how much throttle you grab.

>>15238231
Did you also try front pp3 or you just using rear?

>>15238329
No response cos riding the Puller 250 from the Ass company

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>>15238331
Nah i couldnt get a 120/65-17 pp3, could only get a 120/60-17 so i just have a 2ct on the front which i have had no complaints with

>>15238329
i can't actually think of any bikes with tc that arent 250+kg cruisers

>>15238342
I wish just once someone would give even a semi legitimate reason why ABS and TC are bad and not just opinions.

>>15238374
i wish bad riders would shut up about how good their rider assistants that don't actually improve their riding are

>>15238363
I went with both pp3, they are pretty good. Only complaing is the front under heavy braking it gives a strange spongy feel.

Other than that pretty good tyres.

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>>15238367
Here's one. Speed triple r has it as well since a bloke at work was saved by it in the wet last weekend. There's plenty out there

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We chem terrorist now

>>15238389
i havent had that problem with the 2ct, what pressure are you running in the front/rear?

>>15238397
ala akba

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>>15238421
daily reminder

>>15238421
>not a modular

Do you think it will be worth it to up my calcuim and vit D so when if I crash I have stronger bones?

>>15238432
monks smash their heads into sandbags to make their skulls stronger

>>15238427
Which site is this?

>>15238438
seems like a good way to get sub concussive impacts leading to CTE.

I suppose the monks didn't know about CTE though.

>>15238439
crash.org.au

>>15238443
thx m8

>>15238438
Perfect. I will become a kungfu master

>>15238442
monks are fucking crazy man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX8mGt0K_JI

>>15238427
>crash.org.au
>>15238430

shoei rf-1200 is best on market

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>>15237750
If anyone is interested

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>>15238479
The oil that came out was a mix of light and dark grey and generally smelled like the wrong end of a very ill elephant, as expected.

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>>15238479
>I can see her nekkid

>>15238487
>notable shitposter appreciating my baiku
Th-thank you s-senpai!

>>15238511
What year is that thing?

>>15238517
1996 Kawasaki GPX600R. The fork oil, I'd imagine, is 20 years old as she's only done 14k miles and was a bit soggy when I got her.

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>>15238517
responded ;)

>>15238529
Thanks for the (you)

>>15238524
Thing looks good man, try not to crash

>>15238551
>(you)
(You)

>>15238564
My b
>Want a liter Peter
>Also am 20 so insurance would be death

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>>15238570
>americans
>complaining about insurance
kek!!!

but actually kek, because Europe motorcycle insurance is way cheaper than american insurance for bikes

u got kukd

>>15238576
i feel they are pretty equal
the difference is that they scale differently along age

>>15238576
I mean I only imagine what your insurance would be if you got a peterbike at 20 as well, doesn't matter the country of origin.
>He can't have a turbo busa as his first bike while still only on a permit
Kek!

>>15237693
11/10

>>15238551
I like it, the fairing is loose though so I'd like to streetfighter it if possible. At the moment though, I have a crashed Triumph to rebuild and a 90s Jap hatchback to repair and modify, so the GPX is a reliable commuter for now.

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>>15238595
A Busa would cost me ( as the almost 20 year old that I am) 357,19 € per year
403 US-Dollar per year

>>15237693
my fucking nigga

>>15238621
That's cheap.
I'm paying $1000/year in insurance plus $260/year in registration as a 26 year old (AUD).

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>>15238621
how?

how much did you pay on an average for your riding gear /dbt/?

what tried-and--true brands to be precise so that i won't get so overwhelmed trying to sift through these enormous varieties

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Speaking of shores, this happened to my last pair too.

I guess I have a sharp brake lever

>>15238650
>1000$/year in insurance
Jesus, you could just get a GS500 every year and ride one of those if your bike gets rekt

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>>15238653
how what?

>>15238650
>$1000/year
what the fugg :DDD

>>15238661
time to be part of the duckttaped shoe masterrace m8

>>15238669
more like
>dickttaped shoes
amirite

and how is a busa only 400 for a 20 year old. that's amazing.

Just got back from a vacation in Central America. Rented a bike for a day and did some off-roading to get to a volcano. Anyone want pics?

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>>15238654
A bit over 2k overall for gloves, helmet(s), 2 pairs of boots, leathers, textile jacket and kevlar jeans.

>>15238664
>>15238669

I know it's pretty ridiculous but I live in a city full of Asians and retarded bogans who don't give two shits about someone else's property. Full coverage is a necessity.

>>15238679
sure

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>>15238674
ayy lmao :^)
that's the benefit of having the stupid license system, people think you can ride after that so that insurance can be cheap.
>>15238681
>Asians
>not being shut in and caring about borders to other people

what did you fucking aussies do to the asians that they are suddenly different

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>>15238683
>>15238679

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>>15238698
>>15238679

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>>15238703

Wasn't really a proper motorbike per se, but it was my first time offroading and I had a tun of fun.

>>15238703
>>15238698
is dat sum dr200?
>MUH DICK

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if dubs drz isn't meme bike

>>15238695
We have a large Asian community with their own suburb. It's only a problem when you go riding near it and suddenly it's like a game of dodgeball except with Mercedes SUVs.

>>15238654
Like $1500 for my daily gear, and I don't have pants. Another $1000 for my adventure gear and winter stuff.

All of my gear is Dainese or Klim except for my Cortech Scarab winter gloves and my Icon Variant helmet.

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>>15238717
DRZ is maymaybaiku

>>15238709
>that mudflap
why even live

>>15238741
Lol look at the front one

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>>15237756
>single-sided swingarm
>to show off the ugliest wheels honda have ever made

>>15238752
hahahahahahha what the fuck
where do you even buy that

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>>15238741
>>15238752
>>15238762

Not my bike, just a rental. There was only one place in the city that had bikes for rent.

I'm back in the US now.

Was a fun ride around the mountains, though. I learned to ride in India, so taking a spin on the back roads in Central America was a blast. Like I said, it was my first time off-road. So much fucking sand and volcanic poo.

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Fuck finland and its "summer"

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>>15238770

>>15238776
how beautiful

>>15238776
Your problem is the stupid metric system, it never really gets hot. 80°F here in Ammmericcca

>>15238397
we project mayhm nao

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>>15238776
>Nice summer evening
>Plenty of light
>Decide to go for a ride since the roads are finally empty
>Ride around the block
>Already trembling due to low temperature and wind
>Check thermometer back home
>+8C
>Start looking for fleece underwear.
>In fucking June

Why couldn't the ''heatwave'' of May continue?

>>15238914
>trembling in 8°C
bitch nigger please

>>15238914
2 things:
1- sauce/artist?
2- do you not have a jacket or shit to cover you with?

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I'd sorta like to take a ride in the country later but it's 95 F and I've already been riding around town doing errands. I'm sun burnt and dehydrated already.

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>>15238929
>>15238983
The outermost layer of my riding gear alone isn't very warm. Especially without their thermo lining. Usually I have no problems with low temperature, but this time I wasn't expecting it because it's June and therefor I didn't realize to prepare for it accordingly at first.

>1- sauce/artist?
Google it yourself.

Guys I found a bike for kitkat
http://denver.craigslist.org/mcy/5616297665.html

>>15239025
not enough dildos

>>15239025
Holy shit I want to get 2 of those and weld them together.

>>15239025
I dunno, looks a little too powerful

>>15239068
I wonder what it would like as a café racer?

>>15238274
>Riding without them makes you a 'better' rider
I disagree. You can still gain skill with them. It's just that they won't punish you or your wallet for making a mistake.

>>15239083
that's good. so why the hate

What's a good beginner bike?

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> riding home from work
> take the backroads because fun
> everything nice, feel like fucking Guy Martin going 180 on bumpy as fuck roads
> suddenly lolnopower
> throttle does not respond
> throttle cable broke
FUCK
Time to give another few hundred shekels to the towing service.

>>15239025
>Bailey

>>15239091
Could you imagine life without hating something? I wouldn't want to live that way.

>>15239091
Technology is scary. Some early examples of it failed so they are unreliable forever and ever.

>>15239094
honda a shit

>>15239094
>letting your bowden cables rip
baka

>>15239094
Watch them fuckers! They always want to put tie downs on the fucking handle bars. Then they tell, "I always do this."

>>15239094
>he doesn't have a schutzbrief with his insurance
dood

>>15239093
Honestly when looking for a first bike you want something that you'll be able to hone your skills on and be comfortable on. Say you're riding on the highway and a big wind gusts and it blows you about, you need a heavier bike so you can maintain more control. Because of this, you also need it to have enough power so that as you get better at riding you don't feel like you're outpacing the bike. Because of this, I recommend something sensible that has at least 4 cylinders and at least 999cc. Something like a gsx1300r or a cbr1100xx would be a great starting point.
>No actually look into 500 or 650cc twins and singles

>>15239114
Why should they not?

>>15239117
Hab ich aber.

>>15239130
Na dann lass den Abschleppdienst über die Versicherung laufen.

>>15239137
Mach ich ja, aber werd ich nicht hochgestuft dadurch? Kostet also indirekt.

>>15239091
Because anon with their 80s model motorcycle has a first generation abs module that leaks and doesn't work so every modern abs system is just as shit

>>15239093
I've been learning on a Ninja 250. It's not a bad bike, it can even do highway speeds. You should stick to the right lanes but it can do it.

>>15239150
>every modern abs system is just as shit
Truest thing posted on dbt in a while :^}

>>15239150
abs does not "leak" it's an indexing wheel connected to an additional ecu
it's just a nanny feature and you should accept that many don't want that shit on their bike

>>15239161
because a tripfaggot said it

>>15239148
Nope, die Schadenfreiheitsklasse wird nicht durch Inanspruchnahme der Schutzbriefdienste beeinflusst.
Habe mein Motorrad zwei mal abschleppen lassen müssen und wurde beides mal ohne Klagen und Kosten von der Versicherung getragen.
Weiß aber nicht ob das im Nachhinein geht - die Versicherungen haben ihre eigenen Dienstleister und bezahlen Vermutlich keine anderen.

>>15239167
I'm pretty certain it didn't exist on motorcycles of the 80s either.

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>>15239093
hi newfriend, this is kitkat, our resident ignorant shitposter, you should ignore him
>>15239119
Yesterday i found a past incarnation of you

>>15239178
BMW k100 had it.

>>15239180
That's very similar looking
>Also not seeing my real post after the blatant trolling

>>15239188
i read that
>it still doesn't erase your past
>you nazi

>>15239167
You don't have to like it but I disagree. Many others do want it. ABS bikes have better resale values than their non ABS counterparts.

>>15239192
I thought he was Slavic.

>>15239192
M8 I'm pretty far from being a nazi, don't be meshuga

>>15239161
Kek have a (You)

>>15239198
By descent I'm polish/Russian but that's like at least 5 or 6 generations removed.

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>>15239203
You have the alcoholic gene. Be careful.

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>>15239197
abs is rarely a deciding factor and i still consider it an enormous risk, considering it can fail or be improperly tended to

>>15239198
i'm a slav and he's most definitely a jew

>>15238122
>ABS and TCS magically make your bike have more grip
Maybe you shouldn't corner on the edge of handling in a blind unsighted uncorner if you don't want to die.

>>15239209
>abs is rarely a deciding factor
If it wasn't you wouldn't see such widespread adoption.

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>>15239209
Love that picture
>Implying I'm not a hektik shitcunt Aussie

>>15239207
Yeah I figured that one out

>>15239209
Meh, if it fails your brakes just work without it. It's not like you have to put your feet down and use them leaving smokey melting boot souls and pink flesh.

>>15239209
>abs
>enormous risk

Have you even ridden a motorcycle with abs?

>>15239119
>>15239159
thanks lads

>>15239213
ABS saves a lot of people, but to be fair a lot of people are also retarded and put themselves in places where they need ABS when they shouldn't have. That includes most of /dbt/ though.

>>15239223
Where you located and what's your budget?

>>15239203
>removed

what does that even mean?

>>15239227
this is why I always find it hilarious /dbt/ considers itself above rider aids.

If anybody needs rider aids it's /dbt/ because they've got rider A.I.D.S.

>>15239228
Austria and budget is gonna be around..idk 7k max I guess? I'll have to do my license first, just wanted to get a feel of what I should look for in the future

>>15239232
My family has been in America for at least 5 or 6 generations. We don't identify as eastern European at all other then the men being shorter and hairy as fug

>>15239232
It means he's circumcised.

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http://www.motoamerica.com/jake-gagne-roadrace-factory-will-not-race-motoamerica-at-barber-motorsports-park

American road racing is in such a shambles right now.

>Walker is not pulling the plug on the season. "To make the remaining rounds," he said, "we feel it's best to stay home and spend time working on our bikes and come back fully prepared. This is a very difficult decision to make and one that was made as a team.

>>15239238
so...you are a Slav then. you're just in denial, like mulattos think they can say nigga and feel like they can fit in with whites

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>>15239237
Are you limited to 125cc bikes first or can you get whatever?

>>15239240
Tru

>>15239252
I mean I'm white so I'm not worried. I'm more of an American than anything else

>>15239249
NASCAR's a good boy they din do nuffin

>>15239259
Why do you pose in every picture?

>>15239259
planning on doing my A license so no limit afaik

>>15239271
Because I'm a poser

>>15239272
Yeah I'd look into like a used f700bmw or sv650 or new cb500f/x/r or maybe even a lightly used mt07

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>>15239271
why do you keep enabling off topic discussion?

>>15239270
daily BIKE thread.

>>15239282
thanks m8, I appreciate it. Gonna note all of those down.

Also this might be kind of a stupid question, but how much of a faggot will I be regarded as, if value looks as pretty important when choosing a bike?

>>15239283
>what is DMG

>>15239296
You'll be like every other non autist. What kind of look do you want? Super sport bike? Cafe racer? Sons of anarchy?

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>>15239259
>Jew
>White

Ayy lmao!!

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>>15239306
See for yourself ;)

>>15239302
from the ones you posted, I liked the sv650 and cb500 most. Mostly looking to just ride it out on weekend trips, maybe with some camping added

>>15239296
>Cuckold tier
Cafe racer
Bobber
Chopper
Squid
Cruiser

>faggot tier
Matte black everything