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3 officers dead 10 have been shot.

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Protests-in-Dallas-Over-Alton-Sterling-Death-385784431.html
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this is it. we are going to get that race war started.

thank God we have all those guns.
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>>56202
4 dead 11 shot
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possible bomb threat according to Dallas PD press concerence
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>>56203
I'm just pissed off with everything that has been going on...
>>56204
just heard that...I'm not able to reply back quickly I'm just north of dallas and so i am getting alot of calls/texts
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>>56208
lol used to live in mckinney
fuck N dallas
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confirmed 2 shooters...maybe 3

one cuffed one still outstanding.
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4 officers dead
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>>56216
Is one actually confirmed arrested ? Or is it just that guy in the flak jacket?
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>>56223
Not sure...it was said that one has been arrested. Not sure if it was flak guy or not.
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Shooting has started again
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inb4 404
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>>56227
? have not heard that
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4 pigs dead...soo sad
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>>56233
thats fucked up
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person of interest has turned him self in.
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>>56233
Fuck off, edgelord.
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>>56233
You sir are an asshole.
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>>56235
Glad that got resolved quick, could have turned really ugly
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>>56235
Apparently it's not him?
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What the FUCK man. Fuck this world.
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What if the perpetrators and/or the dead cops were black?
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>>56232
There was apparently another small shootout with a potential suspect? I'm seeing that some places, but not others
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>>56244
thats my thought...happy that he turned him self in and want to hear the outcome of that.
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>>56247
heard some mix reports on that but I don't know one way or the other.
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>>56202
Nothing says "this will get the police to treat us better" like killing four of them at a protest against them
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>>56246
what if it makes no difference?
an injustice anywhere is a threat to justice anywhere
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You know what scares the shit out of me? Being punished for the actions of someone associated with you.
Maybe they randomly killed 4 and hurt 11 other of the most racist Dallas cops, or maybe they just fucked up the lives of 15 legitimately decent officers.
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>>56255
It would be hilarious if it turns out those cops saved countless black lives
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Did it look like the officers were reaching for a weapon?
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>>56252
Nothing says "this will get the blacks to treat us better" like killing dozens of them unjustifiably every year
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Why do shit like this has to happened in our country man? Why???
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>>56257
That, and they were all black/non-white. BLM seems to do more harm than good half the time.
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let be honest here, this has to be a red flag event to draw attention away from Hilary Clinton FBI email probe that was being livestreamed just before this event and which obviously overrode that livestream to showcase this dallas shooting, turning all attention away from Clinton and (said attention to) this event. and earlier today the man in his car was shot 5 times by a cop for reaching for his ID after telling the officer that there was a firearm in the vehicle. So Clintons case was replaced by a Black Lives Matter event, and terrorism to distract us
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>>56259
>unjustifiably
The same shit has happened to white people, in both historical precedent, and in the modern day.
It just doesn't fit the narrative.
Police killing civilians has been decreasing every year for a long while now.
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>>56263
There's absolutely zero evidence of your assertion, but sure, we're all fucking retarded like you so let's just believe that.

I'll start...
hurrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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>>56263
why would they need one? 2/3 of the counrty thinks shes innocent anyways
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The fact that the cops are asking for tips at this time doesn't seem good to me

I think at least one of the shooters might have gotten away. I haven't seen any updates on the one they "cornered" earlier either, unless that's the one who had the suspicious package
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high speed chase...car pulled over...no word on the car yet...some kind of backpack was tossed into it before it speed away
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Where are the black leaders? Why aren't they standing up to make the bloodshed cut out?
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>>56268
Dallas is completely fucking incompetent. Circulating the picture of a "suspect" and not even attempting to retract the statement. Hope they offer protection to the man whose life they carelessly put in danger.
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>>56270

the last guy to always urge non-violence was assassinated on a hotel balcony
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>>56272
DAMN it's good to live in Highland park.
Suck it dallas fags.
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>>56274
I don't care where you live...this could happen anywhere..right now in dallas
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>>56208
I am west of Dallas, anon. I have not gotten many calls but those few ones I get are major.
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4 cops dead - no real people injured.
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>>56277
stay safe
>>56279
WTF?? NO REAL PEOPLE??
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>>56282
You too, anon. Idk if anyone is hitting DFW. At this rate, anything is possible.
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>>56285
Next anit police protest I will be there with my sidearm...if I see someone targeting police I will take action.
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>>56274
somebody shoot this faggot
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>>56282

that person is an idiot, don't even bother engaging them
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>>56289
people like him are the reason we are having this issue in the USA....if we do not stand together people will die.
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The news about Dallas Shooting are told in NHK Japan, RT, and several other news stations. Haven't seen much in local news yet.

I am not going to lie--I feel a bit paranoid, now.
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>>56259
>theyre killing blacks?? das racissss!!
>tyrone shoots 10 cops, some of them black
>yeah! thatll show em not to shoot blacks anymo!

keep digging your hole deeper, nigger
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>>56290

yeah, but you're not gonna be able to reason with him on /news/, you'll just drive your blood pressure up making the attempt.
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>The Next Generation Action Network is a multi-cultural not for profit organization founded in August of 2014. As an organization our mission is to lobby for social change and equality for all regardless of race, religion, nationality, gender or age.

Is it Muslims or nationalists?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-mrxb0T3R8
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>>56296
never mind...just saw the date...
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>>56263
That's retarded. Trump was doing an excellent job himself by talking about how great Saddam Hussein was and sherrif's stars. This may benefit Trump if it's Muslims.
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Video from someone nearby the area.
https://twitter.com/allisongriz/status/751234755882995713/video/1
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It's not a black or white issue, its a standard of police practice issue. its a corrupt government issue, everyone pays the price.
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>>56301
but it is heavily framed as a race issue. look at the lynching yesterday in Atlanta, for instance
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guy that is held up talking to police [one of the attackers] just said that there are bombs all over dallas and he will kill more police...still active should I say it...War Zone
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>>56275
Highland Park is literally IN dallas.
But it's Rich, white, and peaceful.
>>56288
Meme.
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>>56299
pretty fucking gnarly
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>>56301
No shit. Tell that to the niggers.
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Live! Black people have succeeded from the union!
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>>56305
there probably arent' any bombs
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Watching news. The chief is announcing of a female in custody. Not sure how much I should trust Fox 4 news.

[update: those working in downtown dallas are advised by the major not to go there because it is still considered an active crime scene.]
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Kind of scared shitless, gotta go work in Dallas tomorrow and my parents are supposed to be catching a flight out of DFW in the morning. All this talk about bombs is what really has me worried
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>>56310
agreed...and i hope not...
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>>56307
Many news stations asked that woman for her vid. It's on the CNN twitter page. Most of the woman's tweets are big atm.
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Three feeds from Dallas local news. The link is too long for the post limit so I put it in a pastebin.

http://pastebin.com/UW5VqZfX
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Tired of these fucking niggers playing the race card and always trying to be the victim... and then they shoot innocent cops? Tired of the niggers in this country. Many are good people, but unfortunately many are also uneducated, violent, and lazy shitheads.
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4 shooters now?
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It's framed as a race issue to mask the low/high income gap and a justice system that decides punishment, and many laws for that matter, based on transfer of wealth,
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>>56320
How do you manage to pull the income gap into this
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FOX 4: People are at 7-11 in downtown waiting to hear about their cars. Some people are there because they were part of the protest. Others are there because public transport stopped. 7-11 is closed.
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>>56321
they are a fucking dumb ass...thats why.
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Why does no one point out to the killed by cops statistics to blacks? I did to a guy in my class and he changed his views within an hour...
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>>56315
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Protests-in-Dallas-Over-Alton-Sterling-Death-385784431.html
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Heads up: Gov Abbott is on his way to Dallas because of the shooting.
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>>56328
where did you hear this?
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>>56324
What is this statistic?
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>>56330
Fox 4 News. Again, not sure on what to trust. Just posting.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/FeedNewsLive/status/751278935736930305

Jesus fucking christ
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People are decrying that violence this like this de-legitimizes Black Lives Matter. No it doesn't.

This is violence with a political motivation. Its inherently different to the threat of violence that Black people in America live with everyday, where its institutionalized and ingrained that the cop is almost always justified in using lethal force if their life is in danger.

And why are these officers lives are in danger? Because they are scared of Black people. You see a man, who followed all the rules and was an upstanding citizen by all accounts (ccw permits are difficult to obtain if you're a thug) still get shot to death for what reason? He was probably extra cautious of the fact the cop might be a little jumpy that there might be some sort of retaliation for Alton, and he still ended up dead.

There is a non-zero chance when anyone interacts with the police, that they won't die. That's fucking insane.

So I deplore these shootings, but they don't take away the realities of the everyday in America.

Fuck another mass shooting, regardless of the target, is just another fucking day in America.
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>>56333
>11:51

Wasn't the person supposed to be "contained" at that point?
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>>56335
don't think that was live footage
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>>56333
damn that's rough
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BLACK LIVES MATTERS = PROLOGUE TO HELTER SKELTER
MANSON WAS RIGHT
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>>56337
yeah he kills the cop up close

that guy has training, not just some dude who grabbed a gun and said fuck it let's go
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>>56263
That could be it but it also goes with BLM's "Summer of Chaos" plan that was leaked from the emails.
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>>56339
Makes me think that the snipers must have some kind of training in order to pull off that much damage.
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>>56339
Yeah, saw another tweet talking about how the gunman shot the wall to distract the cop then came in from behind.

Very clearly trained
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>>56299
Apologies for the nerdiness in this post, but why the fuck is all the popular social media's apps compressions algorithms so fucking aggressive? If you want to share anything of actual quality you have to upload it to fucking YouTube now, since some Cloud services don't have mobile browsing and shit and everything reduces shit so severely
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>>56339
>>56342

agreed
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>>56338
How is it a race war?

1) You're assuming it was a black activist. Seems kind of counterproductive to shoot up a rally that's associated with their cause.

2) They're killing the police.
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>>56344
guessing he's a veteran

less likely he has some sort of ISIS training or some shit but probably not
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Before you assign blame to another group of Clapistanians keep in mind the motivations of the suspects. Think about what they want you to think. The goal of terrorists is not only to kill, but to create fear and cause their victims to hurt themselves because of it. You are a bunch of dumb faggots, but I know you're smart enough to figure this out. They want you to blame BLM for this. Random niggers or protestors couldn't shoot that good or organize an ambush like that. Fags like >>56340 and >>56317 are playing right into it and you know it.
Also check em
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>>56343
wrong place, wrong time, nerd.
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>>56343
Good point. There must have been some way to know some people would be recording. How did most of the reporters able to find out about a shooting from a pretty unknown Twitter user?
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>>56346
The thing about terror organizations is that after this is all over ISIS can easily claim responsibility even if they had no idea about it. The shooter is dead, so how will he explain his motives? It just distracts people from whatever issue caused this in the first place. And then in a few months we'll have another riot like this.
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>>56346
>ISIS
>Training

pick 1
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>>56347
>average people couldn't form a sensible plan of attack when they already have firearms training

okay, bub
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>>56334

There's a non-zero chance that if you interact with anyone, that you won't die. What kind of bullshit logic is that?
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It's military for martial law. Jade Helm. -pcscout
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>>56349
graph theory.
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>>56352
Shooting a gun and planning an operation designed to kill as many cops as possible aren't the same thing desu
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>>56347
Nothing you said has any substance, and you can't even channel kek
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on a side note...Alton Sterling was a child rapest a felon and had a firearm..read somewhere he had sold child porn before...the protesters most likely did not know this...and they killed police..
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>>56358
If the shooter's motivations are indeed tied to the black people VS cops issues going on right now I doubt he went on a spree just because of Sterling. People like that have been wanting to kill for a long time, and only waited for the opportunity to do so. By attacking shortly after another black man's murder is highly publicized, he maximizes the message and media effect of his act. If that's truly the case, it doesn't matter who alton sterling was.
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Sterlings record
9/09/96 aggravated battery
10/31/97 2nd degree battery
1/06/98 simple battery
5/04/00 public intimidation
9/20/00 carnal knowledge of a juvenile
9/04/01 domestic violence
5/24/05 burglary of an inhabited dwelling place
7/11/05 receiving stolen things
9/12/05 burglary of inhabited dwelling place
3/17/06 simple criminal damage to property, simple robbery, simple theft, drug possession, misrepresentation during booking, simple battery, aggravated battery
4/12/06 aggravated battery, simple criminal damage to property, disturbing the peace, unauthorized entry
4/04/08 domestic abuse battery
6/03/09 resisting an officer, drug possession, receiving stolen things, possession of stolen firearm, illegal carrying of a weapon with CDs, sound reproduct without consent
10/12/09 illegal carrying of weapon, marijuana possession
8/13/15 failure to register as a sex offender
4/08/16 failure to register as a sex offender
6/14/16 ecstacy and marijuana possession
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After watching that video I don't think it's angry black guys
One that shooter seriously knew exactly what he was doing. Barely broke his stride. Used the columns effectively for cover in the first shot and shot the wall to get the cop looking one way as he came the other.
Two he looked lean to me in a way black guys don't really get. That guy was white or middle-eastern
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>>56358
We have a justice system in this country, and the police are not part of it, full stop. The job of the police is to transport people to the justice system, meaning the court of law.

Some people, who happen to be police officers, are breaking the law. The guy who shot Sterling may have broken a law. It should be determined in a court of law, not by his supervisors.
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>>56362
agree but the guy was fighting the two police officers..he had a firearm and he should not had one...he very well could of been reaching for the firearm...
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>>56292
don't forget
>shooting cops in a city that fairly treats people
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new update...potential suspect apprehended.. they might have found the bomb..
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http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Protests-in-Dallas-Over-Alton-Sterling-Death-385784431.html

Just now, some one just heard a police flash bang by El Centro.
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>>56263
I don't normally call out horrible tragedies for being bullshit, but that guy getting shot in the car for pulling out his ID felt so scripted. The cop was motionless, she was moving her hands all over the place and speaking in an absurdly calm voice.
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If y'all want to watch live, here's a link news4sanantonio.com/news/nation-world/pofficers-shot-at-protest-in-dallas-reports
there isn't anything happening rn but they're focused on the garage they think the gunman is in.
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>>56367
It's called shock.
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>>56334
>And why are these officers lives are in danger? Because they are scared of Black people.

Dallas has a predominantly black police force and police chief.
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bomb went off...half a hospital gone up in flames..death toll uncertain..attorney harvey dent was supposedly inside the building at the time of the explosion...
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>>56367
You could tell the cop knew he fucked up.. I think he knew he had to refrain from unloading on the girl especially since she was recording. As for her being calm, the parents said it was in both of their personalities, but really I don't think the possibility of him being dead was hit her yet. It was totally fucked up.. but I think it was far from scripted.
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>>56367
how fucking gay are you?
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>>56346
Nahhh, definitely a vet. He checks corners, suppresses targets with potshots, keeps his balance on both feet. Standard cops don't have the training to deal with that. ISIS simply does not have the capacity or desire to teach those kinds of skills. They're very gung-ho.
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Pics of the suspects in custody yet?
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>>56377
One of them's till on that parking garage roof
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"Suspect heard saying 'the end is coming'"
Confirmed for muslims
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>Screaming about the end being near
>Killing cops
>Possible veteran

It's a fucking white guy, isn't it?
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>>56377
no...I want to see the fuckers as well
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>>56377
Nope, only of the innocent guy that reddit tried to witchhunt. Did they catch the sniper that everyone was assuming was present?
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>everyone doing their absolute all to racialize this
good goys
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>>56312
That would be extremely pathetic to kill civilians when you're goal would be to kill cops, I doubt there well be any bombs on plains when the situation is bascially about cops, then again what if it's a Isis member?
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>>56360
Sorce?
Also how is this guy not in jail for life
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>>56384
I was already pretty sure that guy wasn't a part of it. The one guy in the parking garage is still active.
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Black guy with AR-15 released from police custody
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>>56360
dindu
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-Helicopter is by the parking garage.
-Uber offering free rides since the incident
-Cops are swarming the hospital.
-Cop car was towed due to holding evidence for the downtown shooter case
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>>56381
>>56381
that would literally be the end of trump. i wish this was just a white guy trying to hoax up a race war
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>>56381
Nobody knows yet, but if I was a betting man I'd put it all on white.
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>>56388
got it from a friend who is a police officer...he pulled his record and told me [I asked]
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>>56392
Source?
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>>56394
>-Cop car was towed due to holding evidence for the downtown shooter case
Why was it towed?
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>>56397
>>56397

Pretty sure you got it from facebook
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>>56398
https://twitter.com/CarrTamicbs11/status/751301284553121792/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Seems like the sniper is still on the loose, eh?

It sounded like there were two distinct weapons being used in that first video >>56299 and I don't _think_ the cops were returning fire with long guns at that point. Also, early reports were of an elevated sniper. DPD also seemed to think there were more during the press conference.
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>>56399
According to NBC 5, the car had some bullet damage that could be connected to some of the cops that were involved in the shooting downtown.
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Protests-in-Dallas-Over-Alton-Sterling-Death-385784431.html
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>>56402
Why don't you think that? Cops are known to have AR-15 type weapons in the car.
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https://archive.is/279jn
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A fifth officer has died. This is the deadliest attack on US law enforcement since 9/11.
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>>56407
Fox 4 News confirmed. @ 1: 49 AM
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A fifth officer was just confirmed dead.
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>>56407
sad...
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I've been planning to become cop since I was 13, and now, well.. I'd rather sit in a cubicle. I live in San Antonio, and if this can happen in Dallas it sure as hell can happen here. I'm genuinely scared for our future.
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>>56410
>>56407
Jesus.....
This isnt going to go over well....
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>>56410
whats more sad is the dead innocent black people

>I-IM A WHITE MALE AND IM THRREATHENED BY BLACK MEAN AND THEIR BIG DICKS!!!!!!!!!!!! IMMA SHOOT THEM 30 TIMES BEFORE THEY SHOOT ME OMG... oh,,, oh they didnt have any weapons or didnt attack me... W-WELL THEYD PRPBABLY BLACK MY GF ANYWAY!!!!!!!!!!

fucking pisses me off so much
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>>56411
You and me both.
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>>56407
Was it one of the already wounded 11 or is this a new person?
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>>56406
wtf...
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>>56415
It was most likely that the fifth died from gunshot wounds. The number of officers shot in total remains at 11.
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>>56416
I'm not about to click that, what is it? >>56406
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>>56411
We need all the good Officers...and I hope that our government changes so things will calm down. I will defend police officers!
>>56412
no...its not..I hope I don't hear another report of another officer that passes..

>>56413
Everything I read the starling guy was not a good guy and he was fighting the police officer so.....yea

>>56415
yes one of the 11...out of 11 people 5 have passed away
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>>56372

stop being an asshole
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>>56402
There were two different guns, but one could have been a cop firing back. The report of a gun warps wildly in urban settings. Do it a lot in quick succession and it's a cacophony.
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>>56418
>https://archive.is/279jn
Its an archive site.. Craiglist ad in Dallas. Just quit being a pussy and click it.
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>>56422
What's so special about this Craiglist ad?
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>>56411
Move to small town America. Barely anything happens here. Or move out of the country.

Big cities and protests are generally things that should be avoided when possible.
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>>56422

that website is perma-banned by Wikipedia
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>>56419
you didnt see the video where a black male was shot 5 times and ended up dead? shot in front of his girlfriend and young child, no less. Even after the male was dead, the officer kept pointing his gun at the male as if he was ready to shoot. the gf and child ended up in custody as well for some reason
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>>56413
Fuck off.
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Fox 4: People taking a night class in El Centro College got moved away from the area in a black bus provided by the police.
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>>56413
Shitpost somewhere else, idiot.
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Watching the livestream, lady doesn't know she's live. It might be over, cops might've flashbanged the gunman, hopefully he's now in custody
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>>56426
You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Dallas PD has a black chief and 24% black officers total. They are in no way a poster boy for the events in Baton Rouge, Fergie, etc.
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>>56320
>>56321

Probably because the income gap IS race related.
It makes sense. Get us to turn on each other so we don't turn on them.
It's not all that hard to look up and see where all the post 2008 recovery money went. It went to the top and it sits there. Regular people got none of it and none of their relief that was suppose to come with it.
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>>56405
I got the sense that they (cops) didn't know where the fire was coming from initially. Could just be my perception of what has been presented by the news.
and
>>DPD also seemed to think there were more (suspects) during the press conference.

Perhaps it's just being misconstrued and/or misinterpreted as >>56421
suggests.
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>>56426

>black male was shot 5 times and ended up dead?

Yeah. If you shoot someone, you're trying to kill them.

>Even after the male was dead, the officer kept pointing his gun at the male as if he was ready to shoot

This is how police are trained. Shoot until you don't see any movement. Especially with an armed suspect..
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>>56435
why try to kill someone who hasnt attacked you? police training sounds fundamentally flawed
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>>56437
Well that's the cops decision in the moment. Nobody is perfect and they aren't going to always make the best ones. You also can't expect for cops to be reactionary. They are putting their lives on the line with some idiot with a gun. I don't know about you, but I'm not going to wait to be shot at by an uncooperative suspect
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3680097/Protests-sweep-nation-thousands-demand-justice-Alton-Sterling-Philando-Castile-black-men-shot-dead-police.html
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>>56438
what if the suspect is cooperative, as he was?
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Cops are leaving El Centro College. Situation seems to be controlled. All personnel and students in the building were cleared.
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Lady in livestream says her source says it is still an active crime scene and will be for awhile but the flashbang had the desired effect and there is no immediate danger.(?)
hoping the suspect was lying about bombs.
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>>56441
Like I said, it's up to the cops discretion. Obviously nobody should be shot for no reason. But it's up to the courts to decide whether it was an unlawful use of force or not. If a cop does something wrong, he should be punished. It's not like the cop was out for blood or some shit. He thought he was doing his job correctly. You'd have to be a total moron to expect to just get away with shooting a black man as a white cop for no reason.
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>>56437
Your brain sounds fundamentally flawed.

Police training is all about recognizing threats. If a guy goes for his pockets (possibly without saying anything), that's a possible threat. The cop in question overreacted, probably should've attempted to verbally control the man, but it was a mistake. He should still be tried, but they have horror stories of cops getting killed at traffic stops.The most recent traffic stop officer death was 4 days ago, by a drunk driver sideswiping him. The most recent traffic stop officer death involving a shooting was in near the end of May.
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>>56301
It is literally a race issue created 10000% by the media since they ONLY give coverage to when white cops shoot black men, and not when white men are shot, or when the daily dozen whites are killed by blacks.

It's created via willful ignorance and out of a desire to heat people up in an election year to drive turnout for their pet politicians, but too bad now a bunch of cops got killed so it's likely to have the opposite effect.

The media is helping to destroy race relations and get people killed for their own profits.
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The threat has been neutralized.
-NBC 5
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>>56446
> it's up to the cops discretion.
Well that's great. What a comfort to all the now permanently dead victims of the broken "justice" system.

>If a cop does something wrong, he should be punished.
And they won't this has been shown over and over again. That's the problem.

>It's not like the cop was out for blood or some shit.
You are incredibly naive. How old are you? Many cops are psychos that get off on power and abuse. That's why they took a job they can legally get away with it. Sure they might not mean to straight up murder people, but it reaches that point all the time anyways and few are likely to stay up at night filled with guilt over it.
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>>56362

Gonna have to agree with this anon.
Police should not be policing police.
People they work with should not be policing police.

Long gone are the days where pretty much everyone told the unwavering truth. It gave rise to the motto that the customer is always right. Yeah maybe when the customer wasn't trying to screw the store for personal gain. Likewise with officers and the public. Either side could be lying. The cops are super super supposed to not lie at all. Which is why everyone needs to be cammed. It cuts down on lies from both parties.
As the people with deadly force and responsibility they need to not lie and we simply know that's not true.
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>>56451
This is a niche case we're talking about first of all. A guy had a gun and had no business having one in the eyes of the law. Secondly, you seem extremely cynical towards police. You're just assuming all police are assholes?

>Many cops are psychos that get off on power and abuse

Come on man... This is such a stretch.
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Looks like the shoter kill himself according to news... they still searching for bombs
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Hughes Brothers post interrogation interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zok9rk9x_s
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>>56449
If that's the case, then get rid of freedom of the press. Oh wait, you can't. They're totally immoral, but they are not complicit.
You can't tout 1st and 2nd amendment for decades and then non expect, and then not expect the press to capitalize on that. The best thing you can do is not watch cable news, cable TV even, and encourage others to not watch. Wouldn't even be this much of an issue if people didn't slacktivist for issues 500+ miles away, on social media all day.
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>>56454
I'm not hearing anything about this and I'm back and forth between Fox and CNN.
What's your source?
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>>56458
Not that guy but:
https://twitter.com/FOX4/status/751314634393604096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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>>56451
> many cops are psychos that get off on power and abuse

this. it's not exactly a career path that appeals to the most rational and free-thinking individuals. i would surmise that most cops have good intentions, but there is a certain kind of personality that someone has when they are interested in such a field, and those predispositions have the potential to develop into dangerous mentalities over time as the cops become immersed in a stressful, paranoia-inducing, and crooked system.
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>>56451
>"You shouldn't assume that all suspects are guilty!"
>makes sweeping generalizations about the mental nature of cops as if he deals with them personally

Waiting for you to start trayvonposting
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>>56458
Fox4 livestream, they mention it 15 minutes ago

http://americanmilitarynews.com/2016/07/breaking-live-stream-officer-shot-active-shooter-at-dallas-black-lives-matter-protest/
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>>56449
Seriously, the liberal media are in no small part to blame for this. So are the killers themselves obviously, and the corrupt justice system that constantly stymied legal punishment for extremely bad behavior by cops, but the shithead "progressive" writers stirring the racial pot and encouraging a "righteous" us vs them mentality in the black American populace have blood on their hands. Hope those sick fucks are proud of themselves.

All those carefully manipulated photos to make George Zimmerman look as white as possible for a multi-racial man had consequences.
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>>56459
>>56459
Thank you both for confirmation.
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>>56457
>They're totally immoral, but they are not complicit

They're complicit by virtue of giving coverage unequally depending on race despite the exact same circumstances involved.

They know what they're doing, and they're doing it for a reason, hence why public trust in the media is in the toilet.
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>>56346
>ISIS training
Don't be a fool, ISIS have too much over their heads in their own teritory to even think about training expensive elite units, let alone send one in the US
These guys are prolly vet mercs, exmillitary tipped off big time by someone in order to stir up the already existing tension. These "mysterious snipers" are used every once in a while in order to provocate an escalation of the situation, as the public is quick to set their allegiance, according to the victims, event and etc. This is a technique used well before you were born in the '93 Moscow protests, where Russia was on the brink of civil war because of these. Same thing happened in the Kiev chimpout in 2014, which is when Kiev started to look like a S.T.A.L.K.E.R. map, and then the following secession of Crimea and later Donbass and etc., and Im pretty sure there are more cases of the so called snipers worldwide
Look these up, its not happening for the first time, its in someones interest for there to be tensions between races and institutions, it's not a random event
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so can someone give me a summary of whats going on in dallas
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Fort Worth here. Been flipping between local news stations for the last 4 hours. Just had a guy being interviewed on ABC (WFAA 8) who said he walked right by the shooter on the ground before he opened fire. Described him as a black male, 5'5", stocky with short/balding hair.
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>>56470
Snipers murder 5 police injure 6 possible bombs throughout one sniper has been nuetrilized the other idk
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>>56434
Replying to myself.

Media is still reporting "snipers".
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didnt one shoot himself
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>>56470
Snipers set up a triangulated ambush position thanks, apparently, to their advance knowledge of the BLM march route, and used that to fire upon police in a manner which gave them no cover.

11 cops were shot, 5 are now dead, with at least 1 being caught on video essentially being executed.

Bombs are reported by the current suspect under siege, but no confirmations as to whether that is true or not as far as I know.
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>>56474
didnt one shoot himself
Fox & CNN are terribly unreliable, cross check with diff newstations
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standoff situation is now over
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>>56476
I've been watching CNN. They haven't reported anything about a suspect committing suicide yet.
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>>56468
http://www.medialifemagazine.com/this-weeks-cable-ratings/

Yeah totally looks like public trust is in the toilet. You vastly underestimate the amount of dumb, unmotivated followers in the US.
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>>56479
Its confirmed, suspect shot himself
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>>56469
>I don't wear this tin foil for possible mental benefits, I wear it because it's stylish! It's true you guys!

Back to /x/ with you.
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I think this is pretty much it for BLM... Think about it...

On a side note, with all of the killing going on and Obama goes and Twists it into some sick Propaganda to help Hillary with Votes instead of doing what a President on the clock should be doing
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>>56258
underrated post
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>>56484
I think it was a planned terrorist attack by radical BLM who'd I'd rather refer to as black panthers now. This was revenge.
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>>56367

I liked that part where the cop gave her an order and she said to wait a minute.
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>http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/08/us/philando-castile-alton-sterling-protests/

>Eleven police officers were shot by the snipers, ten of them during the protests and the eleventh during a shootout with a suspect.
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>>56486
5/7, perfect
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>>56475
>1 being caught on video essentially being executed.
Video?
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>>56331
3/4 violent crime = blacks
only 1/3 fatally shot are blacks
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>>56484
>I think this is pretty much it for BLM
Its sad because BLM was pretty much the only protest group left that could mobilize people and get them to go out onto the street and protest rather than just change their fb profile picture and act like they were helping
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>>56491
https://mobile.twitter.com/FeedNewsLive/status/751278935736930305/video/1

viewer discretion is advised. someone else posted it in this thread already.

sniperS ????????????
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>>56259
Blacks will never "treat people better," they're incapable of living in a modern, civilized society without causing problems.
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>>56495
kennyS
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Any info on the perps?
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>>56498
There's a hoax on Twitter that one of the shooters was a neo-Nazi and former Breitbart employee. Obviously, people are falling for it en masse.
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https://twitter.com/regated/status/751318719154909184
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>>56499
Milo quit Breitbart?
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>>56500
FFS
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>>56501
No, the tweet showed two pictures of fat guys with beards that were clearly not the same person. It's gotten so much traction that "#Dallas Shooter White" is trending.
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>>56500
>looting
>yelling at cops
>claim assault when "suddenly" arrested
Niggers gonna nigg
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>>56233
Fuck off you edge lord
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They need to get a swat team or special forces team out if there's already been this many cops shot
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What's going on here
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>>56503
I'm pretty sure that was starting to trend before that story even came up. People in this very thread were saying it has to be a white guy.
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>>56504
Not just yelling, cheering for the death of the cops' compatriots. You can see the officers getting uncomfortable.
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>>56506
You're like 2 hours late.
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>>56508
Good point. It's so immature and misguided to jump to conclusions in times like this, but people want to get mad, and they want a target to be mad at. We probably won't know about perpetrators until well into the morning at the earliest.
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It has been well over an hour now since:
https://twitter.com/FOX4Terry/status/751316006488772608

CNN is still reporting an active standoff but that the cops appear calmer now..

Fuck the mainstream media.
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Can you legally purchase sniper weapons in burgerland?
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https://i.imgur.com/BkYXTYg.png
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>>56507
Black dude got shot so nigs in Dallas got Mad so they protested and now cops are dead but there was snipers so we dunno who snipers are.
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>>56514
You can get an AR-15, which is still pretty good in the hands of the experienced. Hunting rifles are sold at walmart. I know you can get AK or SKS mockups or authentics in some states. Plus you can acquire all that with legal or illegal means. Weapons that are still in use by the military are pretty restricted though.
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>>56432
Yeah, maybe Baltimore instead. Nearly every elected or appointed official is black and has been for years...and yet there's still BLM whining about the "mistreatment" and justification for street riots and chimpanzee style behaviour there.
Racism or the lack of it isn't the issue with police brutality. It's the militarization of the police, and their increasing belief that they need to be acting like an occupying military force with every patrolman as a tactical unit.
They watch "training" videos and practice "tactical" scenarios until every one of them acts like a scared kid who's been watching too many horror flicks and binge playing Call of Duty.
Add to that the thug culture that does glorify killing police, and it's like sending a scared teenage girl into a roomful of spiders with a flip flop in each hand. Shit is gonna get ugly whether the spiders jump on her or not. Spiders will die, run, cause more chaos, or bite.
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>>56515
Liberia 2.0 when?
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>>56518
>It's the militarization of the police, and their increasing belief that they need to be acting like an occupying military force with every patrolman as a tactical unit.

This is because they have to consider that stuff like the Dallas shooting can happen at any possible time. They deal with the slime of humanity, who try to gut, shoot, rob, or overpower officers and citizens alike, and the citizens are siding with the slime.

You can't blame every cop for taking shit like death threats seriously. If you treat them like monsters, they'll become monsters. If BLM was anything other than the next facebook movement, then they would have gone after people like NYC's chief/mayor, or the countless other chiefs and elected officials who basically ensure a steady stream of convicts for prisons. But nah, instead they attack the bottom feeders of the force. Since when has that ever worked? Even copyright infringement lawyers stopped prosecuting individual pirates, they only go after big fish now.

Police brutality is a result of brutality against police, and if you don't get that then you haven't been alive for more than a couple decades. 90% of fatal arrests could be prevented if people didn't chimp out at every possible opportunity.
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>>56521
Yet it has never been safer to be a cop. The real problem is they are trained not to take chances and the training they do get is nothing like you get in the military and because of that they don't have a sense of control and without that sense of control leads to them stepping out of bounds to attain it.
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>>56441
You pegged the problem exactly. Police see every movement through the filter of not just caution, but outright paranoia. Midsize city I live in has lost exactly three cops in the line of duty in 50 years...one during an undercover operation, one shot by a nutcase locked in his house when the officer showed up to check on him at the request of family, and one accidental shooting by the cop's own partner during a firearm training. And yet...cops in these parts walk around in public downtown like it's Afghanistan, in all kinds of tactical gear, and the local law enforcement agency has armored vehicles, a military surplus helicopter, and several tactical ops divisions partially funded by Homeland Security armed to the teeth and doing constant combat training.
Town parades look like Russian May Day.
In the event of public disorder, I don't feel safer, I feel like martial law is a half step away with a bunch of amped up paramilitary mercenaries ready to rumble.
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>>56518
>It's the militarization of the police, and their increasing belief that they need to be acting like an occupying military force with every patrolman as a tactical unit.
I don't see why Americans get so butthurt about police having armored vehicles, assault rifles, and body armor. This is because your average american citizen can get their hands on an assault rifle which can spew hundreds of rounds a minute
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>>56522
>talks about military having a sense of control
>as if we didn't just witness a guy with military training gun down policemen

Yeah you're not much better jarhead.
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>>56514
Depends. What's a "sniper weapon"? A bolt action hunting rifle with a high power scope? Sure, and why not? A semiauto rifle that shoots one bullet for each trigger pull? Yep, those have been around for decades, just add a scope if you want it. Some fully automatic machine gun? Nope, not without a ton of federal paperwork. Keep in mind that the term "sniper weapon" means almost nothing. Take any rifle, add a cheap scope, and I suppose you have a "sniper weapon." Like "assault weapon"...the term is just media bait.
It's like saying "sportscar." The image in your mind may be a Lambo, but includes a hell of a lot of very different vehicles.
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>>56500
literately subhuman pieces of shit
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>>56480
Ratings has literally nothing to do with public trust in the media, dunkass.
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>>56494
Almost all their protests were based on either outright lies or gross exaggerations though.

They're /still/ doing the hands up don't shoot bullshit to this day.
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>>56252
You're jumping to conclusions that it was a black person who did it.
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>>56536
He is. But his sentiment isn't wrong in that a few too many people, for my comfort, aren't showing genuine remorse/grief and are instead going the complete other direction. Thats even before accounting for the ones who don't give a shit (or are happy) but pretending otherwise.
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The first headlines I saw on this was 'not related to BLM' I mean I understand people jumping to conclusions though.

I hope it's just a few radical individuals and not actual members of the movement. For the most part key members of it are against a violent approach. Am I mistaken on that one? Pls help get rid of the ignorance.
>>56534
Hands up don't shoot bullshit? Whaddaya mean bullshit? How is that bullshit? Yea I know you're not worth the time but I'm real curious.
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>>56540
It's bullshit because it never happened, anon.

The original story of good boy baby Michael Brown was that he was executed on his knees with his hands up begging not to be shot, but oops that was a lie made up by retards who lie for a living and he was shot after a physical confrontation that he ended by bull rushing at the cop, which he was shot for.

All the borderline retards of the country took the "hands up don't shoot", anecdote as absolute fact and turned it into their slogan, and keep up the charade despite being as factual as The Hobbit.
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>>56540
It's all based off the belief that Mike Brown put up his hands and said 'Don't Shoot'.
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>>56253
>This post

This post makes me happy that this board didn't turn into /pol/
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>>56263
Jet fuel can't melt steel beams
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>>56347
>They want you to blame BLM for this.
they want you to blame guns for this
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>>56548
why not both?

I mean stupid niggers and free easy access to guns is most of the reason why the usa is such a shithole.
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>>56355
kek
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>>56376
This, a thousand times. That shooter was extremely coordinated and quick to react to the swat guy taking up position behind him. That tactic of firing off a shot to the LEOs blindside to get him off balance was super smooth, definitely done that a few times in the field.

Also seems like he was using a fairly short barrel on that AR-15. Wonder how effective that would have been in long range engagement, possible he switched guns and went CQC MODE ENGAGED.
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>>56507
>What's going on here

America is reaping what they sow: 'hate'.
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>>56233
t. nigger
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>>56246
If they were black there would unfortunately be a racial backlash as there tends to be. Just like after 9/11 and the backlash against anyone who even looked Middle Eastern.

I'm worried for what's gonna happen.
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>>56452
So you've never read a single history book have you? People have always lied about shit for personal gain. The mafia used to run entire countries. Cops in the "good old days" killed people more than they do now, the incident rate has been dropping since camera phones were invented.

Please give me am example of any decade where people were wholesome, non-lying Saints.
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>>56233
>pigs
how's your summer vacation anon?
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>>56549
The only reason the USA even exists is because of a free and easy access to guns.

Shocker here, but the states with some of the laxest gun laws in the union are also the ones with the lowest homicide rates.

Try and take a guess what the difference is between those states and others. Go ahead, guess.
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>>56561
Lack of black people?
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>>56561
br0 we had to steal real guns from our British overlords; most of our militia garbage was old and personal firearms were few and far between and even more aged.


Too bad about these cops tho.
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>>56561
souurce: NRA
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>>56562
kek
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>>56561
population
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>>56548
Stay away form they.....
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>>56561
>tes with some of the laxest gun laws in the union are also the ones with the lowest homicide rates.
Second amendment was written back when the peak of gun tech was a musket, they didn't have any idea how much more deadly they would become.

Aside from stupid rednecks and gang banger niggers, any one with any common sense knows the second amendment is an outdated thing to try and stand behind.
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>>56561

No cities.
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>>56568
>Second amendment was written back when the peak of gun tech was a musket
this is so stupidly wrong and you know it you cheeky fuck
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>>56570
Whats wrong about it? Go on and show me one gun they used back then that could have any hope of killing a room full or crowd of people.
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>>56233
Too far
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>>56570
not him but you'd be hard pushed to find a more advanced gun than the Girandoni air rifle in 1791
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>>56572
Show me how the Founding Fathers were so shockingly retarded that they thought we'd be using muskets now.
Show me one shred of evidence that suggest the people who wrote up and signed those documents thought that, in 200 years, technology wouldn't have advanced at all.
You think the fuckers thought time was frozen or something?
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>>56551
I ran a 10'5" ar out to two hundred yards rather easily. They're viable out to about 400yards
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>>56575
>Show me how the Founding Fathers were so shockingly retarded that they thought we'd be using muskets now.
Yea, well if you are just going to spout that kind of really poorly thought out trolling I guess you cant.
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i just woke up, what is this. Who are the shooters?
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>>56580
So there is zero possibility that there was any future proofing in those documents?
The people involved were completely unaware of the advancement of technology, that we would continue using muskets as long as the United States existed.
So, I'm trolling?
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>>56572
puckle gun ass clown,
Duckfoot musket.
Multi-barrel guns existed at the time.
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>>56568
People owned warships and heavy artillery back then. We fought a war with private ships once.

I guess we should ban free speech from the internet since the only thing back then was a printing press too.
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>>56572
>>56574

Girandoni. Large capacity magazine loaded with 22 minuteman-killer rounds.
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>>56572
They had air guns in Italy that could shoot multiple rounds, also fucking cannons that could blow the shit out of a fortress, and ships capable of blockading and starving entire cities.
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>>56274
Lived there as a kid, moved to west Plano then Frisco, currently going to school in Denver.
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>>56588
eh, the first few rounds went out ok but they lost power fast
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>>56582
We don't know anything about the shooters yet.

11 cops shot, 5 dead in a tactical ambush last night at a BLM protest.
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>>56582

4 suspects, 1 dead, 3 in custody. One of the ones in custody is female.

One of them allegedly spoke about the end times, but nothing solid on motive yet.
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>>56592
All the sources I can find on it say a full charge could fire 30 rounds (8 more than a full magazine) at "useful power" aka injuring, if not fatal.
>>
This may be just only be the beginning
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>>56583
>>56585
>>56587
Jesus, you failed and now you want to samefag to make it worse? And seriously, you wana bring battleships into a debate about the second amendment? Whats next, talking about the founding fathers mutant ability to see the future and creating america and the NRA for the second coming on jebus?
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>>56598
non-fatal is plastic bullet territory tbh
>>
Is anyone sure the snipers didn't feel threatened by the officers' visible weapons? Could they plead self defense?
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>>56601
>.45 solid metal sphere = plastic round that can't penetrate.

Sure thing, bro.
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>>56568
The Supreme Court has already ruled that the second amendment is not limited to inferior or outdated arms.
The argument you're using is the lowest of the low when it comes to arguing against the second amendment.
If modern weaponry isn't applied by he second amendment, only parchment and ink is protected by the first.
Get fucked commie.
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>>56600
>I've lost every argument on guns ever and now I can't handle it so I'm going to call you an NRA shill
>>>/pol/
The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
>>
https://twitter.com/mic/status/751397749141143552?lang=en-gb

Apparently one of the suspects said they are not affiliated with any group
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>>56353
Whenever I get pulled, I always follow the officers directions to a dime, as an added comment I always ask the officer for clear instructions so I do not get killed in the exchange with him. Also have a gopro attached to the inside of my rear window, always recording when I step into my car. People just need to be more cautious. Dealing with cops is inherently dangerous, I see the logic in it.
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>Suspect wanted to kill white people, especially cops

Good luck convincing America that Black Lives Matter is a peaceful movement.
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>>56607
>The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
Okay Mr. Militiaman, but get ready to be "Well Regulated".
>>
So I guess these 4 suspects were working together? Since it was a coordinated, elevated attack? They seemed to be trained.
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>>56469
But are they fueled by money, self-hate, racism, or something else?

What kind of person with military training is willing to possibly give up their lives for a single shootout if they weren't emotionally invested in it themselves?

Also yeah this was surprisingly organized for a protest shooting.
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>>56606
I love you. Thank you.
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>>56621
>What kind of person with military training is willing to possibly give up their lives for a single shootout if they weren't emotionally invested in it themselves?
A racist nigger? I mean you can train a dog to do things, just because these niggers used organized tactics doesnt mean they arent just stupid niggers.
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>>56617
By law all men over 18 are in the militia, and if you weren't a retard you'd know that "well regulated" has nothing to do with government regulation.
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this whole things seems...

suspicious as fuck.

gunman killed with a explosive drone? gunman communicating with police prior/during shooting? 1 shooter, 12 injured? Reports of hidden IED's? Sketchy footage/ no footage of gunman? No footage of return fire? No footage of drone strike?
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>>56642
not to mention the timing...
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>>56607
>The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms

assuming you have arms, just wear a t-shirt, i don't see a problem
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>>56642
12 cops shot... why didn't they get behind cover and call in a helicopter?

and they still have identified the gunman...
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>>56617
"well regulated" directly translates to "well maintained" from similar literature from the era. Why would the founding fathers right in a contradiction into the document?
>Well regulated
a regulation is an infringement.
>shall not be infringed
Are you saying you're smarter than the people who founded this nation?
>militia men
All able bodied citizens are in the milita.
>>56644
>assuming you have arms
https://imgur.com/73oGj93
>>
and you know what the absolute weirdest thing there was today?

There was absolutely NO TRAFFIC in downtown LA. There is ALWAYS traffic in downtown LA.
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>>56651
this is a stupid argument. The issue has been decided, absolutely nothing is going to change, one way or another. I wish both sides would stop shitting up these threads.
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>>56652
like I know that sounds paranoid, but if you lived here you would understand. There is never not traffic in Los Angeles.
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Its like, okay, I get it. Maybe the cops got ahold of him, things got out of hand, they execute him gangland style or some shit. They call up their buddies in the news media and say, "Hey, we got a situation here."

But why a fucking drone? Why would you run with that story?
>>
IT'S TIME TO CRIMINALISE BEING LEFTWING.
CLEARLY LEFTWING PEOPLE ARE INSPIRING HATRED

>if things were the other way round
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>>56656
and i get not wanting to mention the name for fear of reprisals. Its not his momma's fault. But not identifying the weapon?

Whats going to happen when the autopsy report comes out?
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>>56659
or worse, what if really WAS a drone strike? think about the implications. What if there isn't any way to identify the gunman? He just remains some faceless assailant the news media can latch onto forever, and the only thing they know about him is that he is black
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>>56661
But he had to be carrying a wallet or something, right? They could at least check to see if any cars were impounded in the area over the next few weeks that correlate to missing persons.

Assumming he wasn't a loner. I'm kind of thinking this guy might be college educated, or an ex veteran.
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>>56651
>not knowing the difference between arms and guns
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>>56663
Also got the serial on the gun.
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how exactly did police call in a drone strike?
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>>56202
>>56239
>>56241
>>56505
>>56560
>>56252
>>56255

Dead niggers and pigs this week, fail to see what´s wrong. except that Hillary its still alive.

>>56255
>decent
>cops
maybe they should got a real job instead of being dischargeable pawns

>>56295
Maybe its a false flag by obama
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>>56668
Alex Jones?
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its like, yeah, i feel bad, but police die everyday. its not every day somebody calls in a fucking predator drone on US soil.
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>>56668
Lol
Troll harder faggot
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>>56668
U definately are the kind of person who uses a tinfoil hat...
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>>56668
>Hillary its still alive
Now that you mention it...
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and the news said he specifically wasn't targeting civilians. Only one bystander got shot, (assuming she wasn't a paid witness used to drum up ratings) out of crowd of hundreds of people, and for 12 officers to get shot, that got must have been a decent shot.

That would imply some sort of military training.
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from the footage, it almost looks as if the police couldn't identify which direction the shooter was firing from.

If they couldn't locate him on the ground, how did they spot him? Aerial reconnaissance? Was there a police helicopter on the scene?
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>>56668
What about the anons that want to become cops and consider it a real job?
I mean, what is a real job anon? You can honestly call being homeless a real job anon, there is already some faggots who call themselves professional protesters and get paid to protest, no doubt there were some at the protest that happened before this shooting
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>>56642
>Wasn't there something scandalous going on with Hilary? All this blacklivesmatter stuff has distracted me from it
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>>56678
Shit
this was there fucking plan all along, those damned politicians!
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>>56676
>Was there a police helicopter on the scene?
if so, when did it arrive?

the news said they had nearly 20 blocks closed off. how long are they going to be able to keep that up? Can you imagine what thats costing the city in commerce?
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This is all too convenient for the gun control lobby.
>>
The police in Dallas are going to be twitchy as fuck after this.

I wouldn't be surprised if we saw more deaths following this - simply from cops over reacting.
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>>56682
PROTECT OUR SECOND AMENDMENT!
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>>56684
>PROTECT OUR SECOND AMENDMENT!

At the price of a mere 11'000 fatalities a year...
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>>56683
Yeah, after stuff like this, the police always seem to be a bit antsy afterwards,

they can't tell the bad niggers from the decent ones
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>>56685
A small price to pay anon

Without the second amendment, all other amendments are left unprotected, and can not be enforced be any citizen, including the first amendment

It always surprises me that people forget that the 2nd amendment protects all other amendments, and without it, all people are basically fucked in terms of their rights
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If the Democrats win the upcoming elections and gain control of Congress and the White House, the 2nd Amendment will be gone. At the very least, the UN Small Arms Treaty will be voted on and passed. This would trump the 2nd Amendment.
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I'm not saying its a "conspiracy".

I'm saying that we need to start asking questions. Not just for the gunman or the protesters, but for the sake of any other officers who might get caught in the crossfire. How many more cops are going to have to die?
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>>56685
>Only 11,000 fatalities a year
Kek
Are you cereal anon?
That is not even 0.001 percent of the annual death rate of the world

Honestly more people dies daily all over the world, than in one year just by not so harmful guns
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>>56334
>There is a non-zero chance when anyone interacts with the police, that they won't die
>won't
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>>56685
Guns are not the problem. The problem are people with guns. Since we can never stop a bad guy from getting his hands on a gun, we need to arm more citizens to fight back. Look at Israel. They don't have a problem with gun violence yet many of them walk around with AK-47s.
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>>56685
Really

I thought it would be more, lol 11 thousand ins't really that much actually
I guess I am going to support the 2nd amendment now
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>>56696
Exactly!

This anon knows what's going on
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>>56202
>ctrl+f "nigger"
>only 6 results
Im surprised.

I think we should all come together regardless of race, blacks killing cops is only going to anger the cops and make them retort. Revenge is the worst rebuttal and just makes us blacks look bad. Killing is the last thing anyone should be doing.

I am light skinned and have gotten a lot of shit from both black and white people growing up, when all i did was simply be me. Ghetto niggs give me shit for "acting white" (what? you mean use proper grammar when i speak?) and only having white friends when i clearly had friends of both/many races.

Whites stereotype me and assume i worship rap and watermelon when i dont like either of those things, even my white friends.

I wish everyone would just accept me for the EDM loving weaboo faggot i am.
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You do realise that you can still own swords, pepper spray, crossbows, air rifles, double barrel shotguns, hunting rifles and baseball bats without actually allowing ALL GUNS right?

That's the law in most of Europe and we have about 30 shootings, per country, per year.

And don't give me all this crap about "being able to fight the government" - all you have to do to disable a government is stop working. America is literally big enough for that to cause the government a heart attack within weeks.
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>>56696
>Look at Israel. They don't have a problem with gun violence

hahahahahaha HAHAHAHAHA

Nigga they are LITERALLY a besieged country - you aint besieged.
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>>56685
>55.3 million people die annually worldwide
>151,600 people die every day
>6,316 people die every hour
>11,000 die of gun violence in america
That is actually really good statistics anon, overall
and fantastic compared to the birth rates
>131.4 million births per year
>360,000 births per day
>15,000 births each hour
and here is the death ratios and birth ratios
>19 births/1,000 population, 8 deaths/1,000 population
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>>56700
WHAT!?

What the fuck am I reading, could it be

No, it couldn't be, an actually smart and reasonable post?!?
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>>56704
>comparing gun deaths in the US to deaths worldwide
>claiming its not that bad

You are literally this desperate. 11'000 people. And you couldn't give a shit.

America.
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>>56700
Tensions will rise

The nig who was killed by a fucking EOD bot mentioned wanting to target specifically white people and cops.
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>>56700
>tfw there is an intelligent post on 4chan of all places
Damn, I have been lurking too much, I going to go take a break
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>>56708
How exactly do you get killed by an exlosive ordinance disposal robot? strap a bomb to it and make it wear a turban?
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I love how america is reacting with #blacklives matter

What about the 5 white guys who just got merked? I guess white lives dont matter.
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>>56708
Nigger racist are worst than White racists to be honest

Because unlike white racists, a nigger racists would do some stupid shit like this
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>>56710
Well, it didn't wear a turban
bu the first part of what you said was pretty much what happened, kek
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>>56710
imagine a claymore strapped to a toy monster truck
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>>56711
The niggers are just as racist as whites once were, if not more

the only difference is that the blacks are actually being supported for their racism
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>>56714
Kek
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>>56703
OK, so let's say you're king for a day and round up all of the guns. What happens when criminals and terrorists start smuggling them into the country? By the time the police arrive, the damage will have been done.

Now look at the purpose of the 2nd Amendment. It wasn't created for sport or to go around killing fellow countrymen. It was created to allow citizens to form a militia in the event the government became too powerful and controlling. I don't know about you, but I don't want the government controlling my every action. It's already bad enough with taxes and mandatory health care.
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>>56719
Pretty solid reasoning tbh
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>>56719
Nobody is going to ban guns, that's unconstitutional.

...instead they will limit the sale of bullets and ammo, and require guns to have expensive fingerprint-ID safety systems.
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>>56616
Its not a fucking movement

Its a fucking IDEA anybody and their fucking dog can claim that

People with all varying beliefs can be apart of the idea

How is this so hard to understand?
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>>56677
a real job generates wealth and its not stolen money from the taxpayers, fucking objectivity, how does it work.
>>56673>>56669

most possibly, so far more news are coming and it was just blacks, still byproduct of obanana race pimpin.

>>56671
your tears make my dick hard, keep crying.
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>>56707
11,000 out of 300+ million is nothing to cry over, especially since the majority of it are criminals or suicides
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>>56724
Oh, your hard now?
sexy
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>>56729
This is true
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>>56707
Lemme guess, you don't like math, or is not very good at it?

Statistics are statistics anon, the numbers don't lie, 11,000 is not really that much of an issue,

If you ask me, I'd say America is living the high life compared to real shitholes around the globe
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>>56685
So?
The CDC's own 2013 study said that for every homicide committed with a firearm, a firearm is used by a victim in self defense between 16 and 100 times.
Five cities in the US are responsible for over 50% of all firearm homicides. Eight cities are responsible for 76%. What do they have in common besides a prominent urban thug culture? The most stringent gun control in the US, effectively disarming most average citizens while criminal thugs remain unaffected.
We keep using cars at a cost of 40,000 traffic fatalities a year.
We keep building swimming pools at a cost of 3,500 drowning deaths per year.
We keep owning knives at a cost of 2,100 stabbing deaths per year.
Possessing a firearm for self defense is a great equalizer. My grandmother wife, or daughter suddenly are on equal footing with some dirtbag bent on doing them harm. Why would you want to take away their ability to defend themselves? You surely aren't going to take away the dirtbag's ability to arm himself; he doesn't care about the law.
So yeah - shootings by militarized twitchy cops are a problem. Shootings in public by crazies are a problem. Both are rare but highly publicized when they happen. Drug related shootings which don't affect the average citizen and never make more than a blip on the news are the VAST bulk of the statistic, and one that you will never stop, or even appreciably slow, with gun control proposals.
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So this is a confirmed false flag right?
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>>56712

Yeah, you're right. I can't think of any white domestic terrorists. ...that targeted and killed many police is the end of that sentence. ...typically they just try to kill lots of people with explosives. ...except for that tea party couple that killed two cops in Target a while ago. ...and all the others.
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>>56653
>nothing is going to change
The continual and gradual encroachment on one of the most important God given right will cause change.
>>56661
>>56656
We're not talking a predator drone strike here, we're talking a little robot crawler carrying an explosive device.
It is somewhat concerning, but none the less not as bad as you think.
>>56664
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms
>>56685
The vast majority of those are bad guys with guns killing bad guys with guns.
Literally a tiny fraction of a percent of the total deaths in the United States.
The biggest killer in the US is cardiovascular disease.
Aka, being fat.
>>56701
You don't understand the concept behind the second amendment and fundamental rights.
Casual restriction leads to total control, give them an inch, they take a mile.
See: Ausfailia, UKrabia, Germany
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>>56724
Can I suck your dick, I promise not to bite this time papa
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>>56735
To distract from whatever non-story you care most about at the moment? Oh yeah. Totally, bro.
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>>56737
What the fuck does terrorism have to do with racism dumbass?
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>>56721
Both of those things you listed are infringements on the usage and operation of arms.
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Why is it if the cops are this horrible racists organization that wants to kill niggers, why is it every nigger that deals with them acts like a disrespectful idiot? Shouldn't they be on their best behavior for fear the cops will find some excuse to kill them?

I mean I really don't understand this at all, even more so when people call cops who kill niggers in self defense murderers.
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>>56737
>tfw said racism
>tfw anon says terrorism
If you going to go off topic, try and lurk moar in these areas
>>>/b/
>>>/trash/
>>>/mlp/
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>>56742
Nope, not according to the SCOTUS.
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>>56734
Numerous government agencies have made statistics for this since the seventies. In estimated incidences of firearms being used in self defense the lowest estimates were 4 million a year and the highest was about 12 million.
You are killing or injuring at least 4 million people to save a few hundred. Even the 11,000 statistic pushed by Brady Bunch is non-ironically inflated with suicides.
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>>56737
Low quality bait anon
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>>56741
The way things are going, they are going to be the same thing soon. We have sand niggers killing us for not wanting to be in their pedophile worshiping cult, and then we have racist niggers wanting to kill whites out of their own inferiority complex and outright ignorance.
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>>56648
>12 cops shot... why didn't they get behind cover and call in a helicopter?
Because its not a fucking video game you massive moron.
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>>56743
It is called, uneducated niggers, anon
Hopefully you don't run into those kind too often, they might think your racist for no reason and pop one of their caps in you
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>>56749
>Terrorism>racism
>tfw they might be Terrorism=Racism
Hopefully DEFCON 1 can happen before an actual race war happens,
when is North Korea, China, Iran, Russia, or whoever the hell has nukes going to just say "fuck it" and lunch em shits already?
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>>56743
Why is it that stories of blacks who got shot reaching for their gun while being arrested get massive coverage but completely innocent blacks and whites killed by no knock raids on the wrong house and other similar unconstitutional bullshit never get coverage?

The black guy that shot at the non-uniformed detective who kicked in his door at 3AM almost got the death penalty for trying to protect his little daughter. Probably no one has ever heard of him except the anarchists that write Copblock.
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>>56751
Oh, I know I am racist, although its only been after having to deal with niggers lately and seeing how the world is sliding.

Hating niggers is part of keeping yourself safe now.
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>>56685

Considering humans need to calm the fuck down population wise, any deaths are welcome.
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>>56743
It is called idiocy, anon
It has increased over the past decade in america lately
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>>56746
There have been an insignificant number of cases regarding the ban of ammo. In the future if you try and ban ammo, you'll have the same thing as banning guns.
Requiring specifications for fingerprint ID scanners won't work, you can just disable them.

Both should be ruled as supremely unconstitutional for their implications and agendas.
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>>56755
>The black guy that shot at the non-uniformed detective who kicked in his door at 3AM almost got the death penalty for trying to protect his little daughter. Probably no one has ever heard of him except the anarchists that write Copblock.
Man I know, just look at the shit that was ignored by the media while they were sucking travon didndonuffin martins cock.
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>>56738
>You don't understand the concept behind the second amendment and fundamental rights.
>Casual restriction leads to total control, give them an inch, they take a mile.

Mhm. Go try and buy a hand grenade. ...mount a BMG on a plane. See what happens. I own multiple guns (none done up in camo or with a reflex sight) and I have no problem with limiting magazine capacity. ...but then again I'm not an angsty conservative post-obama gun owner who is way more concerned with owning a rebellious fashion accessory.

In fact, speaking to your apocalyptic slippery slope BS argument... My grandfathers pump action Winchester still has the clip in the tube to limit it to three rounds from time spent on birds way back when. ...the main difference is I doubt my grandfather bitched and moaned about the restriction back then. "If you can't get it done in three maybe you shouldn't have bothered" would be more his style.
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>>56738
Germany's can own funs though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0-J2pYLCvI

tldr: the guy has 30+ guns
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>>56715
>The niggers are just as racist as whites once were, if not more

Yeah all those times blacks burned crosses and linched whites
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>>56756
>Hating niggers is part of keeping yourself safe now
This is incredibly stupid,
But the more I think of it, the more I start to think this might actually be solid logic if shit continues the way it is in america in the cumming years
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You fucking niggers. I hope we wipe them out. Cull the monkey menace.
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>>56762
>"If you can't get it done in three maybe you shouldn't have bothered" would be more his style.
That isnt weird, its common fucking sense. If you need a 30 round mag to take down a moose or shoot birds you dont know how to fire a fucking gun.
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>>56764
Laugh now, but eventually, I have no doubt those niggers will do EXACTLY THAT

Just you wait anon, keep on laughing, until the time cums
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>>56741
>What the fuck does terrorism have to do with racism dumbass?

Are you serious? The post I was replying was:

>nigger racists would do some stupid shit like this

I'll give you a hint: The "Stupid shit like this" he was referring to is terrorism. Your reading comprehension is abysmal.
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>>56764
Not yet anon, not yet

But soon
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>>56764
They are too lazy to build crosses, niggers are burning flags now. Have you been in a hole these last few months?
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>>56770
Oh, ok

Why didn't you just say so anon?

Hehe, ok then, carry on
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>>56770
>forgetting that there are actually autists in 4chan and that anon might be one of them
Normie please leave
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>>56768
The majority of firearms owners arent hunters or even have time to go to the range frequently.
A home defense weapon with 5 round magazines would be irresponsible.
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>>56764
Basically this>>56772
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>>56764
Fun fact: 1/3rd of lynchings were white people, and those lynched were more often than not accused of horrendous crimes and were not killed for the sake of killing blacks.

Also the first man in the US to own a slave was a black man. Slavery was an essential part of black culture and wasnt practiced here until a black man demanded it.
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>>56764
and basically this too>>56778
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>>56775
>autists

Um... I guess I'll give you that? Still though. Slightly more research before a twitch non-sequitur reply and insult is not a big ask.
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>>56262
>BLM seems to do more harm than good half the time.
How do you even know this is attributed to the group? There are always going to be fanatics who piggyback off movements to fulfill their hateful motives. It doesn't make the BLM movement any less relevant.
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>>56685
Over 30,000 people die a year from falling over. Are you going to hope that the person breaking into your house trips over and dies?

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/accidental-injury.htm
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>>56764
You have to be trolling

I refuse to believe someone can actually be this retarded
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>>56778
That was debunked, he was early but not the very first.
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>>56780
I'll try anon
i promise

And I'm only partially autistic
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>>56783
>He hasnt Home Alone'd his house yet
>He doesnt wear a helmet 24/7
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>>56762
>go and try and buy a hand gernaid
I don't want to pay the $200 tax stamp, I have no reason to use a gernaid, I don't feel the need to own one. That doesn't mean I shouldn't have the right to own one if I see fit to use it for legal and rightful purposes.
>I own multiple guns and I see no problem with limiting magazine capacity
>I am complicit in having my rights infringed, so everyone else should be as well
I am in no way aligned with the conservative party. And you're a strawmanning moron.
>restrictions on hunting game are the same as nation wide gun control
You are not very smart are you?
You can take the magazine plug out and shoot clays or use it for home defence.
There is no federal restriction on magazine sizes for general use, and there never will be.

Since the AWB was lifted crime has gone down, while it was enacted, crime was up.
Overall it had a negative effect on the population and would be impossible to impose now.
>>56763
Can, only if you're extremely rich.
>>56768
A 30 round magazine is not for hunting game.
The bill of rights is not a bill of needs.
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>>56783
kekked
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>>56776
>The majority of firearms owners arent hunters or even have time to go to the range frequently.
>A home defense weapon with 5 round magazines would be irresponsible.

Nine is the number I hear most often which seems reasonable to me. I'm certainly open to debate. For the record I own 30 round mags for an heirloom M1 Carbine so I do have a horse in this race. Although the proposals I've seen sought to limit sales of new hardware for this very reason. ...which pretty much means this legislation has a impossibly light touch and still the NRA reacts as though we are discussing genocide.
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>>56685
Wow, only 11k, no I'm pretty sure it was more than that
11k is too low, with what everyone thinking gun violence is such a major issue and all, it has to be higher, right?
>>
So one of the shooters was identified guys
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>>56785
No, he was the first. We only had indentured servitude prior, Anthony Johnson was the first American to own a bonafide slave, and he was black.

If you're going to argue that indentured servitude is slavery (I'd say it more or less is) then you'd have to accept that millions more whites came to this nation as slaves than blacks.
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>>56794
Cool beans
>>
>all these butthurt burgerlards getting incredibly flustered over the fact that they're so impotent that they need guns and trucks in their lives, masturbating to BLACKED and shitposting on neo-pol
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>TFW I live in DFW
Uhhgg, give me a little time to dig up the local new about this.
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>>56700
Youre the black friend ive always wanted, the kind with a small bicurious penis
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>>56794
>I do have a horse in this race
>tfw this is a pretty gud quote
>tfw writes down quote for future use

This quote isn't copyrighted is it?
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>>56799
>LOOK AT ME, IM TROLLING MY MASTERS
>LELELELE
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>>56794
>...which pretty much means this legislation has a impossibly light touch and still the NRA reacts as though we are discussing genocide.
What part of shall not be infringed dont you understand? A magazine ban of any kind is an impediment on the right to bear arms. Your gramp's old M1 has a 30 rounder for the same reason modern weapons do, and those reasons are still valid.
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>>56799
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wew lad
>>>/trash/
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>>56799
Damned pleb
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>>56794
>Reasonable to me
Fuck you. You're nobody. You dont have the ability to decide what's reasonable for me to own.

The second amendment is very clear and immovable.
"Shall not be infringed."
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>>56804
>>56804
I will never understand why a people with like 8 branches of military and one whose specific goal is to protect the people and is a god damn regulated and organized militia (National Guard) want or even believe they need assault rifles or any rifles for that matter? Why are you so scared?
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>>56809
I'm not scared, I have a mauduce.
And when he speaks, everyone listens.
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>>56809
Please explain to me how a government run military is a militia. I would love to hear your reasoning.

FYI, the militia is the arm of the people, and cannot be regulated or involved with the government in any way. Regulation is done by the people themselves, and as a non-gun owner, you are not the militia. You have no say in it.
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>>56808
>"Shall not be infringed."
Damned stright!
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>>56809
Because all of those branches are commanded by one man, and no man should have that sort of inordinate power over the people.

>Why are you so scared?
I'm not, but they should be.

>"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."

Are you even American? Do you know a damned thing about this nation?
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>>56811
"That's heavy doc"
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>>56809
Many guns in america are used for sport or home protection other uses which are more of a tinfoil hat kind of use is for a wordt case scenario where the government becomes to big and a dictatorship regime takes hold of the government
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>>56809
Basically this>>56812
Military and militia isn't the same thing, fucking illiterate
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>>56769
>>56771
>slippery slope
>>56784
Not an argument
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>>56814
>"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
Beautifully posted, couldn't have posted it better
>>
rise of apes planet
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>>56823
>tfw this is what is happening
OH SHIT!
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>>56823
Little Ceasar's Pizza
Made Human slaves
Served for apes
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>>56777
What's the point of linking a post to the post that's already replying to it?
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>>56827
Emphasizing, anon
>>
>>56827
Uhh, making a point. Thats what a discussion board is for.
>>
So uh...
Thread dead? I mean, nothing else to report about this now huh, they caught the suspects, the shooting is over, right?
Time to move on anons?
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>>56818
>>56814
>>56812
>a military force that is raised from the civil population to supplement a regular army in an emergency.
>a military force that engages in rebel or terrorist activities, typically in opposition to a regular army.
all able-bodied civilians eligible by law for military service.

>32 U.S. Code § 102 - General policy

>In accordance with the traditional military policy of the United States, it is essential that the strength and organization of the Army National Guard and the Air National Guard as an integral part of the first line defenses of the United States be maintained and assured at all times. Whenever Congress determines that more units and organizations are needed for the national security than are in the regular components of the ground and air forces, the Army National Guard of the United States and the Air National Guard of the United States, or such parts of them as are needed, together with such units of other reserve components as are necessary for a balanced force, shall be ordered to active Federal duty and retained as long as so needed.

>(Aug. 10, 1956, ch. 1041, 70A Stat. 597.)

>The Army National Guard (ARNG), in conjunction with the Air National Guard, is a militia force and a federal military reserve force of the United States. They are simultaneously part of two different organizations, the National Guard of the Several States, Territories and the District of Columbia (also referred to as the Militia of the United States), and the National Guard of the United States

The National guard is a state by state militia. They vary across the board. The people join the guard of their own will. They stay in their cities and states. How is this not a militia?
>>
>mfw this board is usually slow, but we're getting replies every minute or so
>Mfw still no images allowed
:-(
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>>56829
It's not making a point though
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>>56827
If you don't get it, then maybe you should lurk more and at least try to get it
>>
>>56834
Basically this>>56835
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>>56835
Nah it's fairly obvious you're a newfuck trying to push your vapid nonsense.
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>>56738
>Casual restriction leads to total control, give them an inch, they take a mile.
>See: Ausfailia, UKrabia, Germany
As an Australian, our internet sucks, our economy is either doing well or terrible, our local TV sucks, BUT at least our cities aren't forced to declare martial fucking law every 2 months. Just my thoughts.
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>>56832
Th NG is federally controlled and any use of them to police the streets has to be authorized by the state or else it's a violation of posse comitatus
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>>56831
How do we as a people move n from this? Every year all we do is draw lines in the dirt. When the hell will it stop and we come together?

Fuck I'm Carribean-American and I know this shit isn't a white, black, hispanic, mexican specific problem. its a damn American one.

We have people having little trust for the ones that are meant to uphold our laws and society and not because they're criminals. Its because they're scared.

How the hell do we fix this problem when it's always something new popping up? When the hell do we get better people to do better jobs? When the hell do we realize an eye for an eye will never solve anything?

I fucking loved this country since I was a kid and I'm scared to all fuck about what happens next
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>>56838
please, stop already
>>>/trash/
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>>56791
>I don't want to pay the $200 tax stamp

I suppose you're right, it seems if you are willing to jump through enough hoops you can own armaments that were effectively illegal. How far are you willing to go on this? Grenade is fine but... how about a live 500lb bomb in your neighbors garage? Russian nuclear warhead?

>I am complicit in having my rights infringed
I think at some point in history there will be a weapon so destructive that you will not want it in the hands of just anyone. I'm pretty damn sure that had the likes of Madison circa 1789 known what was to come, more care would have been taken while penning that sentence.

>You can take the magazine plug out and shoot clays

I'm aware.

>I am in no way aligned with the conservative party

Okay, and you felt this strongly before late 2008 or so?
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>>56832
Because it is maintained by the same government that we, the actual civilian militia, would shoot back at.

Let me ask you this, if a king says that he will create an armed militia that will protect you from him, would you trust said militia?
What if the laws of said Kings land said you had the right to arm yourselves against such a king, but the king said no, you couldnt. Would you obey the king?
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>>56841
>tfw too long

HAHA, yeeeeah... not fucking reading this, sorry anon, I'm too autistic to read this much text
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>>56840
And? You can't just walk outside of your home with a rifle and declare yourself the Xth street militia here to protect Xth street from all threats.
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>>56846
Same for this>>56844

The words are mixed as fuck with this much text, like seriously
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>>56845
Are you really trying to say that people and the military would not have a problem with a civil war and blindly march on to destroy their families and their homes? For a country that values freedom so much its shocking on how much freedom you think your brothers and sisters have.
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>>56839
This doesn't happen. You're falling for media, yet again. 99.9999% of Americans continue on as normal every. Fucking. Day.
>>
Black lives never mattered. You niggers aren't human beings.
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>>56847
Technically you can if your town allows for open carry.

You absolutely have the right to form a militia,. In fact, it's your civic duty.


So I ask you, why do you ignore you civil duties and attempt to impede citizen's ability to do their duty?
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>>56851
If the government were to start it, yes. The people do not have the destructive power of the government, so they'd likely be doing the destruction. However, as unlikely as this is, we still retain our right to be prepared for such events. Personally, I'm more convinced that an outside force would attack well before our shitty unorganized government would.
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>>56852
>tfw the facts are real facts
Can't argue with this tbh
I mean, the while the Dallas shooting was happening, it didn't really affect me since I am on another street, in another city, in another state, lurking on an autistic thread on 4chan

So yeah, not really my problem in reality, as a matter of fact, I am going to eat breakfast now, and then maybe after that i will cum back here and masturbate, LOL
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First suspect identified as Micah Johnson
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POST SOME PONY PORN YOU FAGGOTS!!!
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>>56839
The ban on firearms in Australia has less than a 20% compliance rate and has had zero effect on violent crimes and murders.
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>>56858
>>>/mlp/
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Tell me why a gun registration program where everyone gets their guns branded or have a plate welded (something visible) on to the stock or something and it's a federal crime to have an unregistered gun is bad
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>>56804
>infringed dont you understand? A magazine ban of any kind is an impediment on the right to bear arms. Your gramp's old M1 has a 30 rounder for the same reason modern weapons do, and those reasons are still valid.

My gramp's M1 was a weapon of war made to kill people. It is now antiquated such that it's inferior to unrestricted weapons available to civilians. I have a problem with guns that are intended to kill lots of people; you can bet money the framers of the constitution would as well. You probably should to.
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>>56844
>live 500 lb bomb
The government used to issue 500 lb bombs to wings of the Civil Air Patrol. I have no problem with the legal owning of a 500 lb bomb.
>Russian nuclear warhead
A. An indiscriminate killing device.
B. By all means it is legal to own a nuclear device.
>some device so destructive
Why would you trust the government with those devices, over citizens?
Are citizens not comprised of the government?
How is the government 100% sure that those weapons will not fall into foul hands?
You cannot.
>arguing from what IFs
not an argument
>before late 2008 or so?
I am a reactionary.
My party are commonly known as "loyalists".
>>56855
You are too sure in the complacency of the American military to fight against its own citizens.
They have overwhelmingly pollled to say they wont.
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>>56865
>My gramp's M1 was a weapon of war made to kill people. It is now antiquated such that it's inferior to unrestricted weapons available to civilians.
Actually within 150 yards it's still a damn fine weapon and a perfect tool for home defense. I have two of them.

>I have a problem with guns that are intended to kill lots of people;
That's because you have the mentality of a child or female. Hoplophobe.
>you can bet money the framers of the constitution would as well.
Is that why they made damn sure to make it so every American had the right to the most advanced piece of weaponry at the time of writing? You obviously know nothing about the mindset of the founders.
>You probably should to.
No thanks, I'm heterosexual.
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>>56854
Because I have a problem with the idea that people have such a lack of distrust with their own government that their first procedure is to grab a gun and hold it close rather than finding trust in the government or putting people they can trust into the government

That's insane.

>>56855
The US is what shy of 200 mil to having half a billion people?

DEo you know how hard it would be to impose military rule on them? The lengths and destruction the US government in your perceived anarchic world would have to go to beat them into submission?

How many of those 300 Mil people are in the military? How many of them have families and stakes in the US?

How can you not trust your own people?
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>>56862
>Muh muh infringement
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>>56873
>such a lack of distrust
Excuse me

Such a lack of trust*
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>>56852
Orlando was what, less than a month ago? And two months before there was 14 people dead between Piketon and Appling. Oh and the whole Chesapeake thing at the start of the year. Lol whatever, see you in /news/ when the next "totally not a regular occurring" mass shooting happens.
>>56859
Curious to see your stats, as everything I've seen the consensus is it either noticeably decreased gun-related homicides/deaths or extremely marginally decreased them. Suicides make the numbers fucked though. Homicides have definitely decreased though.
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>>56873
>Because I have a problem with the idea that people have such a lack of distrust with their own government that their first procedure is to grab a gun and hold it close rather than finding trust in the government or putting people they can trust into the government
Why? The government and governments in general have been responsible for more deaths in the last few centuries than anything else.

You honestly do not understand America, at all.
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>>56880
My understanding of america is that you choose your leaders who represent you across the board from all sectors.

Region by Region all the way towards your president
Even then you still have the power to affect politics yet people choose to sit in their homes with weapons?
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>>56879
See you in your shitty country as you're forced to comply with laws you don't agree with. We Americans deny our government the ability to ban guns. Your opinion has the value of raw shit when it comes to our policies.
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>>56202
Fake. More government lies.
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>>56868
>By all means it is legal to own a nuclear device.

I think you'll find that it is not.

>100% sure

Turns out that's not how laws work. ...but that is how you (personally) argue against them. That someone can circumvent the law does not mean that the law should not exist. It does not mean the law has no value.

>mentality of a child or female
Okay - getting a better picture of who you are now.

>Hoplophobe

Like I said, I own guns. I grew up with them on my bedroom wall. Where I'm from you didn't appear in front of another person holding a gun unless you had good cause. Gun were private.

I have an natural aversion to counter culture anarchists who found a new fad in the mid 2000s. We didn't know how good we had it in the days of barbed wire tattoos and tramp stamps. I wish you'd find a new hobby and stop making me embarrassed to be a gun owner.
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>>56881
We vote and lobby to keep the politicians in line as well. You're mentally unable to handle the thought of this because you dont have the rights that we do, yet you feel the need to voice your worthless foreign opinion. Why is that? Do you secretly wish to have the right to defend your family? Or choose what is banned in your country?
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>>56886
Stop spouting about gun ownership. You're like the straight guy who claims to be gay to make the university give him money for discrimination.

If you support any type of gun control, you're not a gun rights supporter, and thats what counts.
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I'm convinced Alex Jones is posting ITT
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>>56889
>If you support any type of gun control, you're not a gun rights supporter, and thats what counts.

Oh boy, that old gem. "If you aren't with us you're against us." Used by extremists for generations. It certainly appeals to those who do not have the capacity to understand a world that is not black and white.

Worthless.
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>>56887
>We vote and lobby to keep the politicians in line as well
Then why clutch to weapons so hard to an scenario that is so outlandishly impossible? I never said get rid of all guns but why the hell would you ever need a rifle under the pretense of protecting yourself from the largest and strongest military on the planet when you have so many steps to prevent such an outlandish scenario?

>You're mentally unable to handle the thought of this because you dont have the rights that we do, yet you feel the need to voice your worthless foreign opinion. Why is that? Do you secretly wish to have the right to defend your family? Or choose what is banned in your country?

Who said I was foreign? Ah, I apologize the way I've written implied that I was.

I defend my family every day by ensuring they are educated and realizing that there are ways to make a difference

I teach them how to identify and give respect. I taught my children how to fight with and without violence. I believe that is the very last thing we should ever consider as a means to an end when we live in a country where you can voice your opinion and make a change
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>>56881
I think you'd better understand American by learning what a constitutional republic is, and by reading this quote form Benjamin Franklin about democracy:

>"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
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>>56891
I understand what the black, white, and gray of this matter is. What you dont understand is that I will not settle for your middle ground, as long as my constitution says that my right cannot be infringed. I have an amendment to the Constitution backing me up. What do you have?
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>>56893
You're mistaken in thinking that I cling to guns. I own guns, and have my CC, but do not carry. I have young children and do not put that risk above an unlikely incident.

Also, I do everything you do. In fact, the main difference between me and you is that in my home, there is a safe with a few guns and a lot of ammo. Most days I dont even think about it. They sit there. They do nothing. No one but me can open said safe, unless my wife needed to in an emergency. I do not even go to the range anymore, but when I do, ammo, mags and guns are all separate.

What I'm getting at is that while you think every owner is a white ex-military guy with 300 guns whom touches them daily, there are those of us who are just simply 'prepared.' for what? Nothing really. Is it hurting anything? As long as everything always stays locked, there is no risk, no loss, and only preparedness.
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>>56897
>this matter is. What you dont understand is that I will not settle for your middle ground, as long as my constitution says that my right cannot be infringed. I have an amendment to the Constitution backing me up. What do you have?


Sanity.
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>>56897
>>56906
Indeed.

The issue here is that there is no middle ground. There is no such thing as compromise, because the gun-bearing side stands to gain nothing.
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>>56882
And hopefully the next big shooting won't be near you so you can continue to discuss how great the America is.
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>>56654
I've only been thru LA once and lived further north, but what this guy says gave me chills of truth.
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>>56881
You understaning of democracy is mistake. The proof is that this man wanted to state something and could not do it, so he grab a gun a shoot out his opinion.
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>>56915
I wholeheartedly believe that is a problem with people on all levels. Citizen, police officers, government

We should never allow another man in our country to believe that the only way his opinion would matter is with a weapon or through violence.

That is barbaric. That is insane
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>>56909
We have lost so much already. What more do you want to take?
>>56906
You're implying that the Constitution is insane? Or do you just not like that part of it? Would your feelings not be hurt if we just banned all guns? More so then the Constitution of this governance, your feelings are of great importance to me. Please accept my apology for my asinine adherence to my countries constitution, as I was not aware that it was so offensive to you.
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>>56919
I do not feel that way, and i would guess that a large portion, if not nearly all people do not feel this way. Gun ownership is not about having a louder voice, it is about retaining the right to have our voices heard. We citizens do not have this issue today, luckily. In fact, more so then ever are we heard. You imply that we gun owners shoot our guns in the air to be heard, when in fact, we're just like you. You probably are friends with gun owners and you dont even know it. Of all the owners in the US, think about how many you walk by on a daily basis that don't shoot you.
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>>56923
I'm not even talking about gun ownership in that post.

I'm talking about allowing someone to reach the depths of insanity or hell depression iregarding the state of the country that he decides to take such an extreme and violent approach.
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>>56919
>That is barbaric. That is insane
That's humanity.

Newsflash: There's over 7 billion of us and even when the government is in charge of 300 million they still dont give a flying fuck about the individual.

America is founded on the premise of maximizing individual liberty, and the reality is you can't do that without arming the individual.

Beside the fact that firearms are to man as claws are to the tiger and fangs are to the snake. We have literally evolved to depend on tools to provide defense. Access to such tools is a basic human right.
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even though i know people are probably going to get butt hurt over this i will say that every time another innocent person is killed by police i say to my self i wish someone would just stand up to them. and now its finally happening. someone is standing up to them. they have my respect
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>>56886
>I think you'll find it is not
It is. But getting ahold of one is an entirley different matter.
The rest of your post is pretty incoherent, and quoted things I didn't even say and made both projections and strawmen against my arguments.
>because you are not complicit in losing your rights like I am, you make me ashamed to be a gun owner.
You don't own guns.
>>56935
>A few reports here and there of bad cops or misactoion by police
>ALL COPS ARE PIGS
>I APPLAUDED THE KILLING OF PEACE OFFICERS WHO HAVE LIVES OF THEIR OWN
You are nothing but human filth.
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>>56925
Any person has that ability regardless of their weaponry.
You're asking for fairytale land.
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>>56925
It's not a violent approach in the least. It's a deterrent. That'd be like calling a rattlesnake's tail a violent tool, when all he wants is to not be stepped on.
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>>56935
>standing up to = killing
Jesus Christ, how old are you? Please return to your video games and leave the real world to the adults.
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>>56935
It surely is an eye for an eye, isn't it? Except you still pay for every one of those cops paychecks. You'll now pay their widows, and you'll pay for any other revenge that takes place.

It isnt about the money such much as it is the point. No one deserves to die because of the actions of someone else. These men died because of the delusion that all cops are like those who kill.
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>>56935
>that every time another innocent person is killed by police i say to my self i wish someone would just stand up to them
They do. Every single time there is an investigation, there's a trial, the evidence is weighed and judgements are made. It's idiots like you who read trumped up headlines like "man killed for selling CDs/broken tail light" and you believe it, riot, destroy private property and attack the REAL innocent victims.

5 civil servants are dead because idiots like you have no respect for the law.
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>>56944
Yep. 100% this.

The men that died in this act of violence were not chosen because they did anybody wrong but rather because they wore the same colours as somebody who did someone wrong.
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>>56930
I personally know the depths of humanity. But I always thought the purpose of civilization and society was to leave those behaviours in the past and strive for better

Guess I'm at fault for believing in a better America
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>>56939
Asking for a place where people don't fall into a state where they become murderers to get a point across is a fairytale? Having better support for our people is a fairytale? Having trust in our fellow Americans is a fairy tale?

Fuck me
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>>56951
>Guess I'm at fault for believing in a better America

A "better" America dragged down by the collectivist evils of the old-world? Statism kills, friend, and it kills by the millions.

An American that emphasizes the individual is a better America. It's the only America.
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>>56952
>they become murderers to get a point across
You have a fundamental misunderstanding. They'll become murderers to defend freedom, not to make statements. It's nothing more than self-defense on a national scale.
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>>56640
By law everyone over 18 is in the draft. The draft is not voluntary and not regulated, anyone can be accepted.
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>>56973
No, you sign up for the draft and can opt out of it.
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>>56710
Strap explosives to it. That or use one of those new models that has a small caliber gun attached.
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Formally recognize Black Lives Matter as a terrorist organization.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/formally-recognize-black-lives-matter-terrorist-organization
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>>56976
If you can opt out of it, then it's still not voluntary since you're automatically signed up. Most people probably don't even realize they're signed up.
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>>56862
Its bad because someone, somewhere, is monoplazing firearms to such an extent that if, say, you decided to disarm the populous, you could get a preety good estimate of how many of x weopon are still on the market and ultimately its a degradation of your rights and freedom to form a millitia if there was a nation in tyranny.

Im a brit btw.
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We arent no damn sheep and its time they find out we cant be herded. These are Policy Enforcers (Polic-e) not Peace Officers. We need to start ambushing them while they're driving around - put about 20 rounds of armor piercing or high powered in em and make sure they're capped off, then drive away. Maybe leave a Molotov to prove a point that they arent welcome anymore. Good cops need to turn in their badge and gun if they want to get out of the way. Maybe grab a rifle and stand with the People.
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It takes .308 winchester, 7.62x51mm Nato, or 7.62x54R to make sure. Dont use pistol rounds, dont use shotguns and dont use AKs or 5.56mm. You need penetration and the ability to put them flat on their ass at the same time, no return shots, no calling for backup while they're laying on the ground bleeding.
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If you've only got Bolt Actions (you can pick one up for as cheap as $200) you need 5 or 10 guys and make sure you dont cross your lines of fire and hit the wrong people. Be careful with your shots and be sure what you're aiming at, but be consistent - and dont chicken or hesitate (dont be fried chicken). If he's got a Buddy you need to hit Both of them at the same time. If they've got a K9, put it down too, one shot ought to do it but make sure you give these other animals at least 5. It only takes about 15-30 seconds, then everybody splits... and dont drive fast when you're leaving either.
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>>56841
I'll tell you how we move on from this.
1) Prosecute felons who try to buy guns instead of trying to hassle the law-abiding or requiring stupid "expanded" background checks (meaning I can't give/loan/sell my gun to my son/friend/neighbor without us going through the federal government and paying fees for approval). 6 million background checks for firearms a year, about 70,000 are denied. Half of those because someone actually lied on the form. Fewer than 50 Federal prosecutions result each year. They don't prosecute the bad guys already - and they want NEW laws to make it harder on the good guys?
2) Stop militarizing the police. SWAT teams once made sense. They still do if they're limited to emergency use. Hint: they never are; it's rapidly expanding and every cop wants a shot at being on "the team" - so they make new teams. My local LEO's have a SWAT unit with fully auto weapons, a "Homeland Security" unit with armored vehicles and a helicopter, a "Drug Interdiction Team" that serves drug warrants in full tactical gear (mostly on low-level dealers who they catch selling and go get a warrant, or on marijuana "grow houses" - including yesterday's "interdiction" of a guy with six plants in his bedroom. Every cop wants a promotion, and cycling through one of these units guarantees it. Cops learn to act like they're Seal Team Six apprehending Bin Laden on every encounter.
3) When you find a felon in possession of a firearm, prosecute harshly. This might require some rethinking, though. There are a lot of nonviolent felonies that probably shouldn't result in someone losing their firearms rights in the first place - like driving while license suspended for the third time, or writing a bad check over $150, not paying your state sales tax on time, or possession of more than 20 grams of marijuana. At least slam the violent felons who decide to keep on packing.
Or to guarantee we won't move on, keep trying to disarm decent citizens who want to defend themselves.
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>>56851
And are YOU trying to say that if the government started requiring registration of all guns, then used that list to start rounding up all the guns, the military/Federal agents/local LEO's wouldn't follow their orders to do so? Of course they would.
First registration, then a "mandatory buyback," then raids on any civilian they believe is armed, and voila - the government has complete control and all of the firepower to back it up.
If you think armed civilian resistance is a joke against a modern military, you might want to tell the Obama administration - they've been providing arms to civilians in several mideast countries for years to assist in overthrowing governments the US deems oppressive. And for all of our Tomahawk missles, drones, and high-tech war gadgetry, a bunch of unwashed, backwards "insurgents" with guns have done a fairly good job of fighting the world's superpowers for years now, haven't they?
Defense against all enemies, foreign and domestic requires a population that aren't defenseless sheep.
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>>56853
Bullshit.
There are plenty of patriotic, decent, black folks who would gladly fight government tyranny and the crime in their neighborhoods instead of directing it against white folks...if only retards like you would stop making it "us vs. them." You have a black friend, right? The one who you say is "different from the rest"? Surprise, he isn't all that different from you or from "them" - but he probably knows plenty of idiots he's ashamed to be associated with by race. Blacks know better than anyone that certain trash elements are shitting up the place, and they'd be happy to quit defending them if they didn't feel the need to stick together against morons like you.
End goal: separate the decent black citizens from the ghetto trash. Leave the ghetto trash undefended and without the ability to run behind mama's skirt crying racism. When Street Thug A tries to burglarize or rob Decent Black Man B, B will be happy to rid the world of A for the both of you.
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>>56879
Not exactly true. FIREARM homicides have gone down in Australia. The TOTAL homicide rate has gone down only slightly, and in fact, the US homicide rate has decreased at a faster rate than Australia's over the same period despite a significant increase in firearms sales and gun ownership.
I do agree with you about suicides, though. In less than 5 years, Australians went from killing themselves in droves with guns to killing themselves in droves by every other means imaginable.
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>>56893
Our revolutionary forefathers also protected themselves from the largest and strongest military on the planet...and won. None of those "other steps" you mention were terribly effective, and history has proven they're easily taken away if a fast-talking dictator seizes the reins. An armed citizenry guarantees that a government must respect those other steps.
Here's a question for you: why would our military or police ever "need" a rifle on U.S. soil? Couldn't they do their jobs just fine with revolvers and shotguns? Yet they have rifles and even more powerful weaponry - in the event of some state of disorder or emergency, I suppose. And in such state of disorder or emergency, I cannot guarantee that the government will always stand on the side of constitutional protections, individual rights, and freedom.
The reason to own firearms under the Second Amendment is about defense against government tyranny. It isn't about overthrowing the government so much as it's about not allowing the government to overthrow the people - keeping the government from usurping power that doesn't belong to it.
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>>56894
This guy gets it. Thank you.
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>>57014
...and you're a fucking idiot.
Oh, I get it, liberal bait to try to get moronic responses from knee-jerkers. Glad to see you're not getting any followers.
Surprise: the patriotic gun owners you're trying to misrepresent aren't going to be pulling such stupid shit, or even considering it. Violent criminal assholes are, and it's those people - people like you - that are one of the reasons I will stay armed, thank you.
De-militarize the police, yes. Attack them, no. But we do need to stop this fanboy crap of pretending police are like Medal of Honor recipients. I trust most of them with my safety and rights about as much as I trust McDonald's
with my nutritional needs or the IRS with my money.
And I certainly don't trust them to keep the rest of us safe from nutjobs like you. I'm sure in your liberal moronic world, it would be a badge of honor to go on a cop-killing spree while pretending to be a pro-gun guy, just so you could screw over police AND gun owners, and help move gun control along.
So...you're not fooling anybody, you liberal gun-grabbing shill, but you are still a fucking idiot, and a dangerous one at that.
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>>57047
mcdonalds actually has pretty high food standards.
Lots of people eat there, lots of lawsuits if they didn't have a high standard.
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>>57050
Agreed. I probably shouldn't have hated on Mickey Dee's, and for that I apologize.
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First bump limit on /news/ gj guys.
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>>57062
you too friend
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thats what happens when Guns are legal.

Guns > More Deaths
No Guns > Less deaths.

THINK
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>>57081
Your statement is false
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>>57081
Not true
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>>56524
Id be paranoid too if I was risking my life for barely above minimun wage like small town cops make
Curious, whats the pay grade of a big city patrolman?
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