Electric Locomotive Thread

The GG1 is pretty rad. Shame there's no running example.

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screw that milwaukee queer

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dig the two steam helpers

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They look so sad with their pantographs down. He knows it's all over now.

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Posting some New Zealand kit.
Our first mainline traction was the E Class, later reclassed Eo as more electric locomotives were purchased. Built in 1923 by English Electric.

The 'o' stood for the area in which they worked the Otira Tunnel, at one time the longest in the Commonwealth. The tunnel, which ran for 5.3 miles (8.5) km at a constant 1-in-33 (3%) gradient was too challenging for a steam locomotive.

The class was withdrawn in 1968 and today, one survives in working order at the future site of New Zealand's National Railway Museum.

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Along next was the EE-built Ec class, the C standing for their allocation to Christchurch, through another moderately long tunnel that was proving problematic to run steam locomotives through.

In many ways the Ec was an improvement over the Eo, with more powerful motors and higher gearing to allow a top speed of 85 km/h.

In 1970, with the locomotives nearing 50 years of age, and the arrival of diesel power in the South Island, the locomotives were retired and the catenary pulled down.

Today, Ec 7 survives in operating order, again at the future site of the National Railway Museum. It is often seen working with its cousin, Eo 3.

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Next we have the EE-built and New Zealand assembled Ed class.
The 10 locomotives in this class were built on the eve of WWII from 1938 to 1940.

They were built to pull express passenger trains over a new deviation heading north from the capital city of Wellington that featured two long tunnels. The locomotives featured a steam boiler to supply heating for the carriages, and an unusual wheel-arrangement of 1-Do-2. (It is thought the 'd' in 'Ed' represents this feature.)

Though they were excellent haulers, they were found to be hard on the tracks. With the arrival of Diesel power, eight of the class were scrapped in 1968, leaving two for reserve duty.

These two locomotives would later be preserved when sold in 1981. Currently, one is stored with Eo 3 and Ec 7, and another is on static display at a heritage railway in Wellington. Neither are in working order.

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Now we have the final class of electric locomotives built by English Electric for New Zealand. The Ew class. The 'w' standing for their allocation to Wellington.

The locomotives were unique for their Bo-Bo-Bo wheel arrangement, with a Jacob's bogie in the middle allowing for the locomotive's unique articulation.

Unlike the Ed it was designed to supercede, the Ew was designed for all traffic, including banking. Its 6 traction motors generated 1800 horsepower (though they were demonstrated to be capable of 3600 hp) and could move the locomotive at 60 mph.

In 1983, the class of locomotives was withdrawn and placed into storage.

In 1988, the decision was made to scrap the locomotives, two were preserved, one having been gifted to the Electric Traction Group at Ferrymead (the site of the future NRM) and another was retained for use in the NZR's Heritage Fleet. When the Fleet was dispersed in 2004, the locomotive was purchased by Ian Welch with the intention for running excursions on the electrified mainlines around Wellington.

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Our next locomotive class is the Eo class of 1968. Built by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries in Japan and shipped to New Zealand to replace the ailing Eos of 1923, which were failing to keep pace with increasing tonnages in the Otria tunnel, and had since the 1940s, been run in triple sets.

Between 1968 and 1997, the locomotives pulled trains through the Otira tunnel as even diesels couldn't pull a train through it without choking the engines and drivers.

In 1997 however, a class of diesels was refitted to be capable of running through the tunnel, thus ending the Eo's use. However they weren't scrapped, and were placed into storage at Ferrymead.

In 2008, three of the locomotives were refurbished and returned to service, pulling passenger trains in Wellington before the arrival of new EMUs. In 2011 when the EMUs arrived, four of the class, including the two unrefurbished ones, were scrapped, with one given to the NRM.

In this picture, the locomotive that escaped to preservation is EO 45, in the centre.

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The last locomotive on this tour is the NZR EF class.
Built in 1986 by Brush Electric, the locomotive's design would later re-emerge in other Brush-built locomotives, such as the 'Le Shuttle' locomotives used in the Eurotunnel.

By far the most numerous class of electric locomotive, with 22 built, they also hold the title of the most powerful locomotives in New Zealand, rated at 4000 continuous hp. They are also the only electric locomotives to run on 25 KV AC power, every locomotive beforehand ran on 1500 V DC.

Introduced following the oil shocks of the '70s, the class is used to haul heavy freight trains over the demanding gradients of the North Island Main Trunk (NIMT for short)

Today, two of the locomotives were scrapped following a derailment in 1991, and three more are stored, surplus to current requirements.

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>>919627
Here's one still in service just three years ago

>>919409
I've always loved those things with that livery.
>>919551
Kek

>>919554
How the heck do you coordinate power between all those different types of locos?

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>>919554
>>920006
Those aren't steam helpers and you don't coordinate that power. The GN's electrified system was build to assist GN freight and passenger trains through the Cascade tunnel. The exhaust from steam trains were a real nuisance and health hazard back in the day in terms of ventilation in the tunnels and so GN built the electric system as way to avoid the need to run steam trains through them. The steam locomotives would basically be idled while the electrics would do all the work. The electrics were the "helpers" in the sense that they had a purpose limited to getting trains through that stretch of mountain tunnels. The electric motors would decouple from the steam locomotives after their job was finished and the train would continue on its journey.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascade_Tunnel#Original_tunnel

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>>919785
Is that out of NYC or NJ?

>>919773
What are those cylinders on the front for?

>>919777
>they were found to be hard on the tracks.
How is an electric hard on tracks? I'm only aware of "hammer blow" from big steam locos
Thanks

>>920015
That makes sense, thanks.
I know that crews have died in tunnels because of it. If I remember correctly that's why the cab forwards were developed.

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How did we go from...

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...to this?

>>920035
Maybe curves started to look old fashioned.
Maybe straight edges are just cheaper to form.
Maybe a bit of both.

>>920103
>Maybe straight edges are just cheaper to form.


Probably this. Instead of cutting and forming all that's needed is a steel sheet cut to size.

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I''l post some polish locomotives

>>920035
American railroads were always big on efficiency, less about style. If "muh curves" were needed, they were added, otherwise the locomotive was built to pull stuff and be easy to maintain.

Thusly american locomotives since the fifties are universally road switchers and look pretty much the same, save for addition of extra equipment.

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>>920176
actually, covered wagons suck to service thats why the geep style won.

also, its because his pic is an evolution of this

>>920017
30th St. Station
Philly

>>920022
The cylinders on the front are the air reservoirs for the air brakes.

As for the Ed class being hard on the track, the 'Do' unit in the middle is fixed, like a steam locomotive's driving wheels it doesn't flex going around corners, so it straightens them out a bit every time it goes over them.

>>920035

How to Americans manage to design their locomotives to look so shitty?

>>920495
Thanks

>>920101
Looks like they slapped a pantograph on a regular diesel.

>>920517
Function over form.

>>920517
>t. britfag

>>920517
Have you seen Traxx loco? It's like a huge dildo for yo mama

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>>929663
Thanks for saving my pic (and bumping this thread) friend, have another.

These are from the article "Southern Pacific Electrification, 1962-1972" by John Signor in the SP Trainline magazine from Summer 2004. These were artists renditions of the six-axle 7500 HP locomotives GE proposed for SP's electrification of Donner Pass, Tehachapi, and Beaumont Hill. Unfortunately the planned electrification schemes obviously never took place but it was looked at seriously for a while, as seen by the artwork. The locomotives in your pic look like electrified U-boats.

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good looking babe

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>>920101
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>>920104
Az ész megáll.

>>937537
R A R E
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Pure sex.

>>942915
shiet that's neat

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>>>/b/

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>>942974
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL5WVPTnt3g

Bump3

>>945359
more old-school footage here
https://youtu.be/fqilXPv6K_Y?t=12m7s

wish this whole series was on youtube

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Bumping with this gem

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Am I cute?

>>955405
Sure :3

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>>919409
>Electric locomotive

When you live in a relatively dense country, non-electric trains are really rare

>>960047
Must be nice.

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>>960047
Not that rare though.

>>966095
not bad for a Euro loco

>>919409
When did the last GG1s operate?

>>963312
Is the road on the left still active?

>>972744

Early 80s I believe. Though I know directly from my father that the one in the OP still moved around the yard at Hoboken Terminal at least as late as the early 90s when my parents lived in the area. It sat there for years but its been restored within the last decade, probably with the motors removed.

>>977259
>least as late as the early 90s
Damn, that's really cool that it was still going all those years.

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>>977259
It's a shame no GG1 will ever operate again. Iirc it's because the transformers were all removed and considered "toxic waste" because they were filled with toxic PCB's. So without a modern "environment friendly" solution, and some rewiring, no GG1 will ever be allowed to run again.

>>977519
That's sad as shit

> rust in pieces sweet prince

>>977519
>toxic PCB's

Possibly also gallons and gallons of mercury in the rectifier.

>>940398
Hey, now, do I see one of the box motors with both of its pantographs up about 7 cars down from the lil'joes?

>>977519

We can still hope. And at least those that have been preserved are something. Just reading on them again I saw it mentioned that one museum might get theirs running, adapting a diesel engine.

That pic is a shame.

>>977990
>adapting a diesel engine.
That just sounds wrong

>>977678
>both of its pantographs
You do. I thought that was a no no in case one broke off it wouldn't break the other.
>>977994
It sounds like heresy.

>>980634
I like the way this looks.

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>>980688
me too

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>>942915

>Shinkansen
>Locomotive

icameheretolaughatyou.jpg

[lolnospoiler] EF81 > EF510 [/lolnospoiler]

>>983522
Why does he wear the mask?

>>983522
Is that over its eyes? Poor, blind horse.

>>983522
Sleep tight, horser.

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Now this is a real workhorse made of of swedish iron! Built 1989-98 and was constructed to lean in our tight ass curves and blast away in straights. Known as the mighty X2000. Still to this very day i think it is the greatest train ever made and you in America made a huge mistake not buying them!

>>983523
I will always love baneposting

>>987432
It even drives all the way to fucking Denmark. How sick is that. A train. The CROSSES BORDERS! Wauw!

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Iowa Traction Railway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcFYUvFMvB4

Short line freight railroad that still uses electrics that are almost 100 years old. Pretty cool stuff, too bad it's in Iowa

>>988162
Iowa's not bad.

Mason City is shit tho.

>>988162
by law, don't they need a flagger when crossing roads?

>>988162
That was a pretty comfy vid